Randi Weingarten Only Taught for 3 Years. She's Getting 15 Years of Public Pension Anyway.
Despite only spending a few years in the classroom, taxpayers could end up shelling out over $200,000 in a public pension for AFT president Randi Weingarten.

Randi Weingarten has spent only a small portion of her career in the classroom despite leading the American Federation of Teachers (AFT), the second-largest national teachers union in the United States. Trained as a lawyer, Weingarten taught full-time for just three years and was a substitute teacher for three more.
However, according to a report by Freedom Foundation, a think tank, she will collect over 15 years' worth of public pension when she retires. That sum could total well over $200,000.
Weingarten worked as a per diem substitute between 1991 and 1994 and then became a full-time teacher for three years. Weingarten was also employed as legal counsel for United Federation of Teachers (UFT) President Sandra Feldman until 1998, after which Weingarten became union president.
But according to public records, Weingarten is listed as having collected over 15 years of "service credit" as a teacher—meaning she can expect the pension benefits of someone who worked in the classroom for well over a decade longer than Weingarten has.
How has Weingarten earned 15 years' worth of pension benefits? Per Freedom Foundation's Maxford Nelsen, it's due to the UFT collective bargaining agreement, which allowed her to have over 11 extra years counted toward her "service" even though she wasn't in the classroom. This likely came from "time spent…on union leave as treasurer and then president of UFT from 1997 until her election as AFT president in 2008," Nelsen notes.
"Employees who are officers of the Union or who are appointed to its staff shall, upon proper application, be given a leave of absence without pay for each school year during the term of this Agreement for the purpose of performing legitimate duties for the Union," the collective bargaining agreement said. Public records from November 2022 show that Weingarten was one of several dozen such "teachers" out on union leave.
While Weingarten's union leave is unpaid, the New York City Department of Education used tax revenue to pay her pension contributions for over a decade.
Weingarten wouldn't have been eligible for a pension in the first place without the extra service credit from her union years, as teachers need five years of service credit to be eligible for a pension. Including 12 months of credit she received from substitute teaching, Weingarten only had four years of service credit from her time actually spent teaching.
It's unclear how much taxpayers will shell out for Weingarten's pension. Assuming her average salary was $60,000 (public records show that her last salary as a New York City teacher was $64,313) and she collects her pension for 15 years, taxpayers could end up paying Weingarten $230,000 total, Nelsen estimates—not including any cost-of-living adjustments.
Weingarten has disputed this, telling the New York Post that his calculation is "completely wrong," adding that "I would have to check with UFT and TRS [Teachers Retirement System] on the other or find a quarterly statement, none of which I have right now." UFT did not respond to a request for comment.
Students are hardly Weingarten's top priority. Despite recent attempts to rehabilitate her image, Weingarten was a vocal supporter of extended COVID-related school closures, advocating for such ridiculous policies as forgiving all teacher student loan debt and suspending teacher evaluations as requirements for "safe" reopening.
"Weingarten's case is a prime example of how government unions around the country have managed to force taxpayers to subsidize their extreme, one-sided political advocacy," Nelsen wrote, "and it's high time federal and state lawmakers stand up to union influence."
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Taxpayer, AKA government, funds only go to the pension system while the employee is working. It is part of the compensation package worked out through collective bargaining.
Once the employee retires, all moneys paid out come from the pension fund, and none from the taxpayer/government.
Why do libertarians hate labor unions?
We don't hate labor unions. We hate the thoroughly corrupt and incestuous relationship between elected government officials and government employee unions, especially in Big Blue Cities. Also, we hate the Taft-Hartley Act and the government thumb on the scale allowing national unions to intimidate private employers and forcing them to negotiate "in good faith" with and allow unions to operate in their facilities.
This. And the pre-Janus capability of a union to force dues out of people who did not want to be in the union. And the pro-union bias of dozens of other government policies (like the desire to do away with secret balloting).
If you and your fellow employees at a private company want to form a union, then form one. But you cannot force people who chose otherwise to pay dues; it's fine if you exclude them somehow from collectively-bargained benefits.
But public sector unions are sitting on both sides of the negotiating table while taxpayers are effectively excluded.
If you think the two sides of the bargaining table, with public sector unions and municipal administrators, is a one side affair, think again.
Politicians want to have as much money left over, as they can, after negotiating salaries and benefits, to use to buy votes.
Having the highest paid employees doesn't get them votes.
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It is in retirement benefits that they dramatically overpay because that kicks the expense can down the road. Public union retirement benefits, pension and medical are trillions underfunded at local, state and federal level.
How and why do you think Weingartin pension is so outrageous.
Since "Big Labor" more or less runs the Democrat party, the result in "blue" areas is that the officials negotiating with the union reps have usually been put into their position with at least the consent of the union leadership. In CA, the head of SEIU has been known to say in public that elected officials should "remember their place" and that union is at best 3rd in line behind the teachers and prison guards in terms of how much influence they hold within the state party.
The problem is that in a "one-party" state like CA, where districts are all designed to be "safe" for a particular party (which here ensures that the 2/3 supermajority that the Dems hold in both houses of the State Legislature is essentially permanent), the primary races generally decide who gets the office, and the party "leadership" who answer to the union officials foremost and to voters not at all more or less decides who gets to be on the primary ballot.
Exactly! The unions are in bed with the very government that's oppressing wages and income because of the heavy tax burden to pay for everything the government keeps asking for. Why do Americans feel as if they need to be treated like children by the very people we elect. What, they suddenly become smarter than the rest of us simply because they are politicians? Get real!
Also hat forced unionization. At this point fusions are a racketeering scam (thanks curly Humphrey). "Join the union or you can't work" is a grift
Yes, this, and the fact that because unions are favored by government they are part of a government that causes all contracted services, road construction and repair, defense, etc., to be twice the cost of what it would be if nonunion. Democrats favor unions over taxpayers, the real stakeholders in government spending. Think how much less government spending would be at local, state and federal level if politicians truly represented taxpayers and not donors. Look at how under funded government pension funds are. And democrats tend to make the union pension funds whole as Obama did with the GM pension funds to the tune of about 10 billion. Can't wait until the Blue State pension funds go bankrupt and taken over by the Feds. The share for a state like Tennessee 10 years ago was 21 billion. Even FDR knew it was a bad idea. And then, JFK allowed them to be unionized. The worst mistake of his presidency. The federal pension system is way underfunded.
"Why do libertarians hate labor unions?"
Because they are evil.
Not intrinsically. Labor unions are just labor corporations. As said above, it’s the thuggish relationship between progressive Democrats and labor unions that is most odious.
Yikes. what exactly is not evil?
We hate public sector unions.
What product of Randi Weingarten's can I choose to not buy if the Union ruins or raises the price of said product?
I've room in my heart to hate private ones, too.
Eastman Kodak Company, a worldwide global giant had no union. It was destroyed instantly by a CEO that made millions and his clueless management that garnered six figure salaries. At a meeting with the chief corporate marketing manager to discuss why they did not want to use a simple slogan I developed "Get Digital, Get Kodak!", I was told by him "digital cameras are toys for computer geeks, it is a fad, it will go away." It was incredulous how dumb they really were. Even more incredulous, a few months after that meeting the CEO of Kodak announced they were going to sell two of their most profitable divisions, Eastman Chemical and a medical products division so that they can put that cash back in their core business...FILM!" And this clueless idiot, not aware that everything was going digital, was being paid millions. His replacement, also paid millions, finally bankrupted the company, cancelled all health insurance and retirement obligations to retired Kodak employees and rode off in the sunset in his new Ferrari. Don't blame unions for the demise of companies, they don't make the decisions that run the business, they only ask for a fair living wage.
My union experience in the grocery biz has been one of “mostly worthless parasite set on a death spiral of creating new tiers every contract”.
In short, each new wave of employees gets less and less. And outside of making it slightly tougher to get fired at the drop of a hat, they failed dismally at giving employees a fair wage. They are just as likely to hold back (or give management an excuse to hold back) wages and compensation.
They let Giant get rid of meat cutters with barely a peep. Because of the store loses $25/hour cutter, they could hire two or three $8/hour clerks (minimum wage at the time). The union could double or triple their dues. What’s their incentive?
And what makes you think that if Kodak was unionized it would have been any different? If you have incompetent or not very perceptive management the company can go belly up, union or no union.
Eastman Kodak was destroyed by digital imaging technology, making film an extinct dinosaur. But your sad devotion to a myth is touching nevertheless.
They are inherently collectivist organizations, which tend to coerce people to join and support their organization in order to earn a living and often use intimidation and violence to enforce the collective will.
“Why do libertarians hate labor unions?”
I don’t “hate” labor unions. I have worked both sides of a picket line, crossed them, and walked them. Labor unions can be good, bad, or somewhere in between. People have a right to argue for higher pay, either singly, or in groups. And the employers have the right to ignore them.
But do not get me started on “Public Employee Unions,” which, in many cases, are among the very worst offenders of the public trust.
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FDR:
The desire of Government employees for fair and adequate pay, reasonable hours of work, safe and suitable working conditions, development of opportunities for advancement, facilities for fair and impartial consideration and review of grievances, and other objectives of a proper employee relations policy, is basically no different from that of employees in private industry. Organization on their part to present their views on such matters is both natural and logical, but meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government.
All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters.
Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees. Upon employees in the Federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people, whose interests and welfare require orderliness and continuity in the conduct of Government activities. This obligation is paramount. Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable. It is, therefore, with a feeling of gratification that I have noted in the constitution of the National Federation of Federal Employees the provision that “under no circumstances shall this Federation engage in or support strikes against the United States Government.”
"...a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied..."
People accused of such have been held in jail for 3-1/2 years so far.
Because they're parasites.
Why do you continue to breathe?
There's nothing inherently wrong with labor unions as a concept, as long as membership is voluntary (which means the union would hypothetically need to create value for members to be worth joining).
The problem comes with "closed shop" policies, where membership is compulsory as a condition of employment, or when unions are allowed to collect "agency fees" (which in my experience are always exactly the same amount as union dues despite not allowing those paying to vote on union issues, which shows what that vote is actually worth). Especially since those fees are then kicked up to AFL-CIO who uses the money for political purposes (donations to Dem candidates, party funds and super-pacs) regardless of the opinions or actual interests of the membership.
Since the pro-union crowd almost universally insists that laws which stop unions from making membership compulsory, or which prevent unions from taking money from the paychecks of those who would prefer not to be associated with the are some kind of "existential threat" to the unions themselves, it makes me wonder how that could be the case unless the unions bring so little to the table that workers wouldn't choose to join without being forced to.
What other organization would be seen as being good for those who have to be compelled by threat of unemployment to join in the first place?
Libertarians love labor unions: with voluntary membership, operating in a free market, with no special government handouts.
Public sector “unions” should be outlawed, because public sector employers and employees do not operate in a free market, and because public sector “unions” are really just corrupt political conspiracies.
She's far from the only unionista on the public teat like that. Chicago's new mayor is among them.
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/loophole-will-let-brandon-johnson-collect-public-pension-now-worth-1-1m/
Mayoral candidate and Chicago Teachers Union organizer Brandon Johnson is eligible to collect an estimated $1.1 million pension through the Chicago Teachers’ Pension Fund despite only teaching for four years. His future path could yield a public pension worth over $2.8 million.
It gets even better. This guy, David Piccioli, a lobbyist for the Illinois Federation of Teachers, was a substitute teacher for a single day, yes, you read that right, one fucking day, and will collect a pension worth $100,000 a year. From 2019:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-illinois-pension-teacher-lobbyist-20190405-story.html
The Illinois Supreme Court once again has illuminated for Illinois taxpayers the need to amend the rigid pension clause of the state constitution. The justices on Thursday upheld as constitutional a teacher pension for a retired lobbyist who substitute taught for one day.
The ruling upheld a controversial state law that allowed a lobbyist for the Illinois Federation of Teachers, David Piccioli, to become certified as a substitute teacher in December 2006 by working one day at a Springfield elementary school — and to buy pension credit for his 10 previous years working as a lobbyist. That sweet deal qualified him for a pension windfall from a teachers retirement fund that as of late 2018 carried an unfunded liability of more than $75 billion-with-a-B. Because he also draws a pension from a previous job as a House Democratic aide, Piccioli’s total pension income now rises to nearly $100,000. His pensionable income from the Teachers’ Retirement System is based off his salary from the IFT— another questionable pension loophole, which the Supreme Court upheld last year.
Last year the court upheld a dubious loophole that allowed government employees who left those jobs to work for their union in the private sector to still qualify for a public pension — with payouts based on their much higher salaries in their union roles. One example: Former Chicago labor boss Dennis Gannon, who started out working for the city, was able to retire at age 50 with a city pension based on his union salary of at least $240,000.
Illinois is basically TRYING to burn itself to the ground. Get out.
Illinois should not get one penny of federal money until it removes that amendment that you can't reduce public pensions. I don't understand how it passes US constitutional muster.
Those examples of high pensions for little time worked, don't cost the taxpayer a cent.
The money comes out of a pension fund, for which no further contributions are made, once an employee retires.
There may have been contributions in the name of the union leader, while in that position, but that was negotiated as part of the compensation for being in that job.
>>>Those examples of high pensions for little time worked, don’t cost the taxpayer a cent.
Yes they do. Biden’s bailouts played a huge part in the “improvement” of blue state budgets. Nothing has changed other than we the people got screwed.
https://cookcountyrecord.com/stories/619617113-credit-200b-federal-bailout-not-pritzker-s-actions-for-improved-2023-il-budget
The funds are dramatically underfunded. Pew Research estimates it is just below a trillion dollars for states alone and according to FedWeekly the federal retirement and disability is underfunded by approximately a total of a trillion dollars.
IF Weingarten’s pension is fully funded, that means taxpayers funded it while she worked for the union. It may have been part of the union contract, but the taxpayers weren’t represented in the contract negotiations, and the result (union employee compensation partly paid by the employer) was NOT anything like a fair contract.
But it’s likely that the pension fund was underfunded. Politicians love to use unrealistic assumptions about the rate of return on pension funds, which allows them to pay less now – but leave future taxpayers on the hook for the pension shortfalls that will happen later. If a private business did this, it's fraud, but politicians exempt themselves from the law - and Democrats also exempt unions from many laws.
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"Weingarten's case is a prime example of how government unions around the country have managed to force taxpayers to subsidize their extreme, one-sided political advocacy,"
I agree with the general tenor of his remarks, but "one-sided"? Has Nelsen not heard of police unions?
Where has ANY of this happened with police unions? Either show some examples, or we will declare that you are lying out of your teeth.
I linked to a number of Reason articles on this, but the post is being held up for moderation (?!?)
Still, if you run this: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22police+unions%22+site%3A.reason.com you will see plenty of articles that make the point.
Is your contention that police unions are NOT "forc[ing] taxpayers to subsidize their extreme, one-sided political advocacy"?
New York school district taxpayers have only themselves to blame for subsidizing union shills and leeches. Oh, and the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947 which, I have no doubt, the vast majority of New Yorkers heartily supported at the time.
Hey Reason, the EU is holding a COVID summit. Don't run with the crowd, do some reporting on it.
Why does anyone think the teachers' unions are among the biggest contributors to the Democratic party, both directly and through boots on the ground support? And why does anyone think the Democrats are loyal to the teachers' unions to the bitter end? It's a racket that they're both in on. The only losers in the process are the taxpayers and the students.
And some of these teachers unions have gone beyond just being unions and socialist into being self-declared Marxists such as the one that leads them all, Local 1: Chicago Teachers Union: https://chicagoteachersunion.com/
Oakland teachers went on strike demanding housing and reparations!
"for each school year during the term of this Agreement for the purpose of performing legitimate duties for the Union"
Can we point out their are no legitimate duties associates with that union?
Are we surprised?
What do we expect of corrupt union bosses, if not to suck up unearned resources while being a cancer to society.
Its what union bosses have done since...well the beginning of unions (and before, in various forms)
Defined benefit pensions should be abolished. defined contribution plans to replace.
See how easy it is.
I am interested in your argument - I am in two minds about DB funds from when I was the CIO of a small ($500mm) Taft-Hartley fund.
"Defined benefit pensions should be abolished."
Do you mean the defined benefit "pension" of Social Security?
I think there would be a little bit of an outcry if that defined benefit was taken away.
No - I think in context he means company or Taft-Hartley, defined benefit pensions.
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Sarc or stupidity?
Stupidity, because defending Randi Weingarten assuredly makes one stupid, as what's happened with EscherEnigma.
she just looks so much like a movie villain.
The horse faced hag should be in prison.
So stupid Biden with Student Loan Forgiveness does the same. His largesse, your money.
Students are hardly Weingarten's top priority.
Really? I hadn't noticed over the past 3 years.
Students don’t pay union dues, so why would the union president pay any attention to them.
This is not to imply that the typical union president pays much attention to what the dues-paying members want, either… Most unions have somehow insulated the elections for high offices in the unions from challenges by dissatisfied members, so they can pursue a woke agenda while, for example, public school administrators and counselors come to match the number of teachers, with larger paychecks, and fancy offices while the classrooms fall to pieces.
So, what's the complaint? S/he is one of the Reason's darlings.
Bad opening and worse ending.
Randi Weingarten Only Taught for 3 Years.
1. “only” should be next to “three years”
Despite only spending a few years in the classroom, taxpayers could end up shelling out over $200,000 in a public pension for AFT president Randi Weingarten.
2.(a) “only” modifies “three years”, not “spending”.
(b) As written, the sentence states that the taxpayers spent a few years in the classroom. “Weingarten”, not “taxpayers”, should follow the comma.
3. “ "Weingarten's case is a prime example of how government unions around the country have managed to force taxpayers to subsidize their extreme, one-sided political advocacy," Nelsen wrote, "and it's high time federal and state lawmakers stand up to union influence."Hilarious: Those federal and state lawmakers – who signed the union contracts – were, and are, elected by the taxpayers.
Hilarious: Those federal and state lawmakers – who signed the union contracts – were, and are, elected by those very taxpayers.
Teacher's Unions are Democrats' front-line money laundering capos.
"Weingarten has disputed this, telling the New York Post that his calculation is 'completely wrong,' adding that 'I would have to check with UFT and TRS [Teachers Retirement System] on the other or find a quarterly statement, none of which I have right now.'"
So, it is "completely wrong" but she would have to check to find out what it really is because obviously, she has no idea what it is. The first and last statements thus contradict one another. She's not a very good liar, is she?
And, how much would we pay to keep lefties like this to stay away from the kids?
Likely, she knows to the penny what it will be.
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I find Reason’s antipathy to the idea and the function of unions, and particularly teachers unions, ludicrous. This article is another example. A teacher’s union is essential for teachers in negotiating with the government. Normally you’d think that Libertarians would approve of an organization that empowers employees to negotiate on a more even basis with the government. Instead Reason invariably takes the government’s side whenever a union is involved. And as an aside the writer of this article has no idea how a pension plan works and appears to be against government pension plans. Again she takes the government’s side - the pension plan is negotiated and is one of the reason’s teachers have lower pay - they’ve deferred current pay into pension benefits- a prudent move. But Reason and this article consistently seem to blame the teachers for receiving a pension. The government - which has agreed to fund the pension- is responsible for the cost and the underfunding. PLEASE arop attacking unions and their leaders - it is not a fair or indeed libertarian attitude.
“-they’ve deferred current pay into pension benefits-“
Deferred from where? The higher salaries that the private sector would pay them? For what?
You start on a false premise that teachers are making some noble sacrifice to help the children, when in truth most of them are unemployable for anything other than being a government parasite.
A teacher’s union is essential for teachers in negotiating with the government.
I thought "negotiating" with the government was done at the ballot box. Who exactly is the government supposed to be of, by, and for again?
Tennessee no longer negotiates with teacher unions and hasn't for a few years. Plenty of major corporations have divisions that are nonunion and, therefore, don't negotiate. No problem.
Funny, Tennessee has one of the lowest underfunded pension fund. The last I checked Pew Research said it was 97% funded.
Government uses retirement and post employment benefits like medical and disability to kick the cost down the road so current budgets can be balanced. They do it subtly by overestimating both the return percent and average years to retirement.
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“A teacher’s union is essential for teachers in negotiating with the government.”
You.
Are.
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Shit.
Further as a full of shit claimant, please provide citations to support your bullshit claims. You have none.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Education majors are the dregs of higher education. Education majors move into the "real world" with so many taking jobs that are essentially "babysitting", with no challenge or academic rigor. But they sure know how to complain that they are underpaid for their part-time jobs and how special they are that they deserve to have their student loans (which paid for the worthless degree) waived for the "service". OTOH, what else are most of them able to do?
CBS News
Slackers wanting to earn the country's easiest college major, should major in education.
It's easy to get "A's" if you're an education major. Maybe that's why one out of 10 college graduates major in education.
Research over the years has indicated that education majors, who enter college with the lowest average SAT scores, leave with the highest grades. Some of academic evidence documenting easy A's for future teachers goes back more than 50 years!
Why should we care if education majors, who must survive classes like "kiddie lit," coast through school?
For starters, easy grading can prompt students to slack off. If you can earn an "A" with little effort why exert yourself? What's more, if most students are getting A's then how can employers distinguish the future teaching stars from the academic slugs?
Koedel also suggests that the low academic standards required of education majors can extend to low expectation of teachers after they leave college.
Low grading standards in education departments may contribute to the culture of low evaluation standards in education more generally. Although the existence of such a link is merely speculative at this point, there is a striking similarity between the favorable grades awarded to prospective teachers during university training and the favorable evaluations that teachers receive in K-12 schools.
Randi Weingarten. That mummified communist is as butt ugly physically as she is hideous in her ideology.
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Why do we even allow a teacher's union in the first place? Public employees including cops, postal workers, public works etc. should have no right to form a union. Not when they are collecting off the taxpayers.
The same cops union that created the Uvalde massacre.