Texas Bill Would Ban School Instruction, Guidance, or Activities Related to Sexual Orientation, Gender Identity
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A Texas education bill would outlaw "instruction, guidance, activities, or programming regarding sexual orientation or gender identity to students enrolled in prekindergarten through 12th grade." The proposal comes in the form of a substitution to H.B. 890, a narrower bill related to parental rights in public schools.
Critics are portraying it as an even more extreme version of a Florida proposal that opponents dubbed the "don't say gay" law, one that could even ban student LGBTQ clubs in Texas high schools.
H.B. 890 passed the Texas House of Representatives unanimously in April and is now being considered in the state's Senate. As introduced, the bill laid out a process by which school "personnel, students or the parents or guardians of students, and members of the public may obtain a hearing from the district administrators and the board regarding a complaint." It stated that this process must include an initial administrative hearing and the opportunity to appeal an initial administrative decision, and that complaints must be resolved in a timely manner.
Originally, the bill "was meant to create this lovely communication process so that we could lodge complaints and have an organized system for them to be handled across the state, and it was unanimously passed by the House; there was not one single nay vote in the House," Kristin Braun, a priest and parent of two Texas high school students, told CBS' Austin affiliate.
Last week, state Sen. Brandon Creighton (R–The Woodlands) introduced a substitute to H.B. 890, which was voted out of the Senate Committee on Education 10–3.
Creighton's version is a much longer and more elaborate bill, touching on everything from school district transfers to schools withholding information about children from their parents, biometric data collection, and instruction regarding sexual orientation and gender identity.
It first states that "the fundamental rights granted to parents by their Creator and upheld by the United States Constitution, the Texas Constitution, and the laws of this state…may not be infringed on by any public elementary or secondary school or state governmental entity" unless necessary to further a compelling state interest and narrowly tailored to achieve that interest.
That sounds reasonable. And yet…while upholding parents' rights, Creighton's version of H.B. 890 would seem to infringe on children's rights in negative ways.
For instance, it says that school districts may not "withhold information from a parent regarding the parent's child" and that they must inform parents of "any change in services provided to or monitoring of the student related to the student's mental, emotional, or physical health or well-being." This could be read to require school counselors and other staff to report to parents if a student of any age talks to them about mental health issues, gender issues, struggles at home, sexuality, contraception, or any number of things that some students may have good reason to want to keep from their parents. That, in turn, could enable further strife or abuse at home and/or prevent students from opening up at school about such issues at all.
The most controversial part is probably a section regarding sexual orientation and gender identity. It states in full:
(a) A school district, open-enrollment charter school, or district or charter school employee may not provide or allow a third party to provide instruction, guidance, activities, or programming regarding sexual orientation or gender identity to students enrolled in prekindergarten through 12th grade.
(b) This section may not be construed to limit:
- a student's ability to engage in speech or expressive conduct protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution or by Section 8, Article 1, Texas Constitution, that does not result in material disruption to school activities; or
- the ability of a person who is authorized by he district to provide physical or mental health-related services to provide the services to a student, subject to any required parental consent.
It seems section (b) attempts to mitigate concerns about the broadness of section (a). But saying students can talk about gender and sexuality issues at school and/or with a counselor so long as their parents allow it and the school doesn't deem it disruptive is not terribly reassuring.
As with the Florida law, Creighton's provision would seem to prevent even older kids and teenagers from being exposed to any mention of sexuality or gender identity, even when it happens in an age-appropriate manner, is part of a larger discussion about social issues, or is brought up by kids themselves. It would also seem to ban any books or other materials about these topics from school libraries and, yes, possibly ban student LGBTQ clubs as well.
A more narrowly tailored parents' rights solution might give parents who object to such instruction or programming a right to opt their kids out; instead, this says it's not allowed for anyone.
Supporters of such measures often portray them as preventing radical gender ideology or sexually explicit information from being offered to small children. But in practice, lawmakers keep offering sweeping measures like this one that attempt to keep any talk of gender or sexuality out of even high schools.
"It is unconscionable that lawmakers would attempt to sneak a 'Don't Say Gay/Transgender' requirement into a bill that was not at all crafted for this purpose and previously received bipartisan support," Texas Freedom Network Senior Political Director Carisa Lopez said in a statement. "Anti-LGBTQ legislation of this nature creates an unsafe, hostile learning environment for LGBTQIA+ students, families, and educators while violating the rights of all families and parents who support inclusivity."
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Texas Bill Would Ban School Instruction, Guidance, or Activities Related to Sexual Orientation, Gender Identity
If they do that, then how will children learn how to do math?
“Instruction, Guidance, or Activities Related to Sexual Orientation, Gender Identity”
Boiled frog theory at work. When I was a kid the big debate was whether to even have sex education in schools. Supposedly the parents were too embarrassed to talk to their kids about it – so the argument went. What’s the argument here? The parents don’t want you to know so we’ll tell you instead?
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There was a bit of “your parents don’t want you to know so we’ll tell you instead” back when introduction of now-traditional sex education in public schools was being debated.
Some parents were, as you say, too embarrassed to talk to their kids about sex, but some also didn’t want their kids to know about sex.
Personally, I think it was best when kids found out about sex by talking to other kids in the playground. It was much more creative that way.
So your parents never talked about the birds and the bees with you?
I’m surprised they didn’t abandon him.
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You know they regretted not aborting him.
Mother told him every day. Why he isnt against it.
The lobbyists want to control the narrative, so that only their perspective is heard, to indoctrinate the vulnerable.
What’s propaganda without fear? Oh the poor persecuted Jews, I mean disordered.
If children had to be taught the whole story, gender dysphoria, physical mutilation and sterilization versus the continuum of life and unique relationship of a complete biological family would these lobbyists still want it taught in school?
When did it fall within the purview of schools to promote gender fluidity, or anything else outside of functional literacy?
And from what I’ve seen and read, they’re not even doing a good job of that, their supposedly core mission.
They’re doing abysmally at their core mission, which is part of why they’re focused on culture war bullshit.
"to promote gender fluidity"
They aren't.
"or anything else outside of functional literacy"
Education is more than functional literacy. Unless you're in the Southeast, where they struggle to even manage a minimal education for their kids.
"And from what I’ve seen and read, they’re not even doing a good job of that, their supposedly core mission."
Then you aren't reading accurate information. Unless you live in a place like Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, or Tennessee, where some of the worst educations in America are provided.
“They aren’t”.
As a current baseline, many districts are facilitating it. And it’s bound to expand, Frederick, Maryland diversity officers use children telling other kids they’re in the wrong sex bathroom as an example reportable inappropriate behavior along equity lines. I’ve seen the hand outs. It implies “trans kids” will be accommodated. Which may be of some concern and surprise to parents.
They are neither promoting nor facilitating anything.
If a student initiates a conversation and the school doesn't shut them down or betray their confidence, they aren't doing anything wrong.
If a parent calls trans people "trannys", their children might have justified concerns about the reaction they would get at home.
Schools aren't responsible for your inability to connect with your children.
They kept fucking around, and now they're finding out.
"We're going to teach basic sex ed in schools in the hopes of reducing teen pregnancy rates" has morphed into "we're going to teach your kindergarteners how to toss each others salads and that they can be any gender they want as long as it's not the original one".
Shockingly, this is facing some level of pushback from parents.
“we’re going to teach your kindergarteners how to toss each others salads and that they can be any gender they want as long as it’s not the original one”
OK, troll.
"Supposedly the parents were too embarrassed to talk to their kids about it"
Sex ed was a debate when I was in school as well, but the pro-education argument was much better. It was pointed out that parents are, by and large, pretty ignorant about the issues surrounding sex. Sex ed was an opportunity to protect children by providing them with the accurate, factual, and broad knowledge that most parents lacked.
Needless to say, that went over like a fart in church. Ignorance-only education was implemented (basic plumbing, plus moralizing and fearmongering about sex that boiled down to "sex is bad").
Unsurprisingly, pregnancy and STDs showed up at the levels you would expect from a strategy of sticking your head in the sand and pretending reality isn't reality.
This "if one parent objects, we have to pretend it's a serious objection" approach by cultural conservatives makes sense, since they are a small minority and can't afford to allow consensus or knowledgable professionals to be heard.
But it is doubling down on the idea that ignorance and outrage is more important than knowledge and education.
"Unsurprisingly, pregnancy and STDs showed up at the levels you would expect from a strategy of sticking your head in the sand and pretending reality isn’t reality."
Reported STDs reach all-time high for 6th consecutive year
Admittedly, there was a significant drop with the introduction of antibiotics. It doesn't appear to have had anything to do with sex-ed, though.
"Reported STDs reach all-time high for 6th consecutive year"
As is common for cultural conservatives, Brett refutes an observation about the complete failure of abstinance-only (and the mostly-failure of abstinance-emphasized) sex ed with an article that shows total STD cases are up ... and notbing else. No breakdown by age. No breakdown by state or region. No breakdown by type of sex ed received. Just that the rate if STDs among all 350 million Americans is higher. That's a completely meaningless number when discussing sex ed because what people from 18-118 are doing isn't related to what kids are taught in high school.
For an example of something that is relevant, below are links showing a significantly higher rate of STDs and pregnancy in states where knowledge is limited by law to either abstinance-only or abstinance-emphasized. Not surprisingly, states with comprehensive sex ed are significantly better.
Sex ed policies and teen pregnancy:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22022362/
Sex ed policies and STD rates: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih. gov/20378905/
Brett, I know you're an engineer. I expect better of someone in such a "details are important" job. It's like bringing buoyancy formulas to a skyscraper project and insisting they're relevant.
Yeah, the group that is the most 'educated' about sex, gay bathhouse culture, Shackleford's favorite topic to defend, has the highest rate of STD spread and given the recent monkeypox spread clearly can't be even remotely responsible.
Gone are the days of getting naked in order to count to twenty-one.
They can learn that shit on their own time.
Creighton is being a twat. He represents a very conservative area (and school district) near Houston.
He's either being hypersensitive in the context of his own very professionally administered, yet conservative, school district. Or he's overly invested in how Dallas and Houston run their schools.
GOOD!
When did it become the libertarian position to indoctrinate kids in government schools against parents wishes?
"If they do that, then how will children learn how to do math?"
C'mon. We all know that children can learn many things about a wide variety of subjects during the average school day, but if they learn about gay people or trans people they suddenly can't learn anything else.
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Kristin Braun, a priest and parent of two Texas high school students, told CBS' Austin affiliate.
Woman priest and parent?
I'm not catholic, but...
Could be Anglican (Episcopal). Even Orthodox priests marry and have kids (albeit, they're all male).
Orthodox priests can marry prior to their ordination, but unmarried priests can't marry as priests. They also can only have been married once. Same goes for Orthodox deacons.
But yeah, most Orthodox priests are married and have kids. Unmarried priests tend to be either monastics (hieromonks) or hold academic posts, or both, but some do pastor parishes.
the Episcopals let chicks wear the collar in the late '90s
The Episcopals are all in to what is hip and smart. Morality being for those awful people that Reverend Art is always going on about.
Arty probably supports the mainstreaming of pedophilia as part of the left’s ‘culture war victories’.
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I wish I had a nickel for every "X bill would do horrible thing (if passed)" article on the internet.
I fail to see what's horrible about not including sexual indoctrination in schools
Some of "sex ed" covers public facing issues such as STDs and socially communicable diseases (Infectious mononucleosis , etc) , and birth control. While I spent freshman and sophomore years in an all girls school before transferring, it also included menstruation and mammograms.
It was considered in the public's interest to provide an "ounce of prevention" before it became "a pound of cure". Ideally, parents should be doing their job and informing their kids about these things; but in case they didn't, ignorance would be detrimental to the public at large. I still agree with them on that.
Not their job.
When I was in public school and dinosaurs still roamed the earth, the big focus was on desegregation and busing. That is when education literally took the “back seat” to government initiatives to address social problems.
When I was in junior high school, sex-ed covered things like STDs, birth control, the changes happening though puberty, and how a child is conceived and brought to term. The class was split so males were in one class; the females were in another, separate class. It was taught by the biology teacher in a very clinical, scientific way, sticking to scientific facts and nothing else. IMHO, the way such a class should be taught.
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Send a notice home and let the kids opt-out or opt-in of sex ed. Lots of parents want their kids to learn about puberty, STDs etc. I had this kind of class 30 years ago. Why make such classes 'illegal'? Christianist Nanny State impulses IMO.
Fair enough. I'd like the same menu option on my property tax bill.
Hopefully, you already know about STDs and stuff as someone who is old enough to be paying property taxes. 🙂
That's the problem. Why should I subsidize this bullshit in a system that costs multiples of what it did just a few years ago and has proven itself to be a total failure at actually teaching academics?
We aren't talking about the education you received in Russia or the one provided in the Southeast.
Apparently every large Dem run city is now in the Southeast. Good to know.
Large Dem-run cities outperform most Southeastern states. Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana have been on the medal plaform for 'Worst education in America' so many times they ran out if room in their trophy cases.
Because of democrats, we can’t have nice things. Since they use these classes as an opportunity to push a pro homosexual and transsexual agenda.
If you don’t believe me, spend some time perusing Libs of TikTok.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok
Lots of ‘activist’ government school educators.
Yes, that unedited, unbiased site that never presents fringe ideas as mainstream.
Troll.
Do you perhaps think the illustrious individuals whose accounts she pulls the tiktoks off of are paid actors?
No, they are fringe players that she presents as mainstream. Which is my point. It is a site with an agenda, not a site presenting accurate information.
Which is fine for what it is, but don't use it as proof of what mainstream people think and fo. Anecdote as conclusion is what stupid people believe in.
These classes have not been made illegal.
The classes that have been made illegal are the ones whose lesson plans includes specific explicit instruction in sexual activities--with pictures and an emphasis on non-heterosexual sex along with encouragement of adult/child sexual relations. Additionally those which teach that girls liking 'boy colors' or 'bot hobbies' are actually men trapped in the body of women.
Pretty much the same for me back in the 70s. The mechanics of intercourse were explained as it related to conception but beyond that you were on your own. And as I recall, the counselor's job was to help students plan their academic career, choosing classes for the next semester etc. Don't think they teaching kids how to masturbate and have butt sex.
"males were in one class; the females were in another"
How could they tell which was which?
You should ask That Kid from Kindergarten Cop. He'll set you straight.
I can understand that for the purpose of preventing child pregnancy and venereal diseases, which are permanent, irreversible, and causes serious harm to all involved.
However, I fail to see such a justification for teaching orientation. A child who is interested in a gender will experience whatever feelings they will, and there is no strong negative associated with not getting a class that isn't also covered by normal education.
How are you supposed to indoctrinate a whole generation with an attitude like that?
"However, I fail to see such a justification for teaching orientation."
I fail to see such a justification for specifically excluding orientation. There is a difference between the issues, risks and dangers inherent to heterosexual and homosexual activity.
Unless you think that gay students don't deserve relevant information, but straight students do?
Ideally, parents should be doing their job and informing their kids about these things; but in case they didn’t, ignorance would be detrimental to the public at large. I still agree with them on that.
I agree that an ounce of preventing sex education would save us pounds of sexual indoctrination training and expense in the face of falling birth rates around the world, without regard to (sex) education.
World Of Warcraft easily, probably by orders of magnitude, prevented more teen pregnancies, voluntarily and without specific lectures and taxpayer dollars, than any public sex ed class.
Once of you to change the subject from gender and sexual indoctrination to classic sex ed. We are not talking plumbing and risks here, we are talking inculcating children into marxist thought. The State has no place doing either but leftists like you cannot stand the existence of anything outside your control.
"we are talking inculcating children into marxist thought"
No one is talking about that, troll.
Except that what ENB is discussing here is clearly indoctrination, your mealy-mouthed attempt at redirection notwithstanding.
Only to those like you who see information and knowledge as corrupting influences.
It's the only way trannies can reproduce
This is exactly why they are pushing this shit in classrooms.
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I want every woman to be able to decide for herself.
Conservatives: "We will make all those decisions for you, ladies"
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Don't forget racist asshole.
They'll still let them make the small decisions.
So, you agree that women are those who can get pregnant and may be in search of abortion? So glad you agree with the reality.
I believe babies in the womb have a basic right not to be killed as a matter of convenience but, if feticide is legal, that a father presumptively should have a say over what happens to his child.
Progressives: "Birthing people alone will make the decision whether those trespassing parasites are babies, or human, or alive, and her sperm donor should have nothing to say about it. His only role is to fund her decision, either as a child support payer if doesn't seek to destroy it or as a taxpayer if she does."
Two logic errors I cannot let pass since you commit them all the time.
So your syllogism requires that no conservatives are in fact women. How childish.
And worse , your point can only be that you want to make decisions for the ladies, implying that your premise is whatever you want is ipso facto the way it should be.
When you have a logic tutor on here try some subtlety ????
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Good luck dictating to others the criteria they use for giving respect.
Respect is overrated.
This is an interesting bit of hypocrisy. Imagine a person complaining about a world where "respect depends on spouting social justice."
ENB would be the first to tut-tut and explain that the freedom to decline social justice does not require others to respect you. And this is the mish-mash of libertine vs libertarian thought that gets Reason writers in trouble quite often.
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"Good luck dictating to others the criteria they use for giving respect."
Agreed. There is a difference between treating people with respect and respecting someone. But an increase in the former would result in a welcome expansion of civility.
Because that's what's wrong with the culture. Too much feminine modesty.
Deire McCloskey is a female economist who disagrees. Oh, wait a minute, she is really a man.
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. That doesn't make me a 100 percent, essential woman--I'll never have XX chromosomes, never have had the life of a girl and woman up to age 52. But the world does not demand 100 percents and essences, thank God. An agnostic since adolescence, in my second year of crossing I came tentatively to religion and then could thank God in person, who made me inside in my comfort a woman.
You become a woman by being treated as one of the tribe. Nothing else is essential. Being Dutch is being treated as Dutch. You can be a masculine woman, as by some stereotypes many women are, yet still be treated as one of the tribe. No piece of conventionally feminine behavior is essential if the overall effect makes you accepted in the tribe. Biology is not decisive.
A more narrowly tailored parents' rights solution might give parents who object to such instruction or programming a right to opt their kids out; instead, this says it's not allowed for anyone.
Not allowed for anyone in public schools. If you want to teach this shit, homeschool.
Public schools should teach public concerning topics, like how not to spread infectious diseases to the general public. If you want to raise your child in ignorance , you homeschool. Meanwhile the rest of post-enlightenment society will continue.
How is that working out LB? Last time I checked our public schools were largely failing at conveying functional literacy.
Mission creep has a way of doing that.
"public schools were largely failing at conveying functional literacy."
Yes, in the Southeast they struggle to provide an adequate education. It isn't a problem in most of the places I have lived (I spent a decade in Gainesville, Florida one year).
Welp, we've got an unauthorized time traveler here.
I get what you are trying to say but this is the same system that was so enlightened that it taught remote for years, it taught six feet and it taught you won't get sick if you walk in the direction of arrows on the floor. It's fair to question whether they are enlightened or if that is post enlightenment truly means regressive?
If you think that's what was being taught, it's a you problem not a knowledge problem.
Rev Kirkland, you changed your handle.
Post-Enlightenment is just Newspeek for Neomarxian bullshit.
And nowhere in ENB’s post does it mention not teaching about STD’s or pregnancy (or how to end said pregnancy). But thanks for conflating being gay or trans with having a communicable disease.
like how not to spread infectious diseases to the general public
Abstinence is the best policy. The *entire* jury returned a near unanimous verdict on the ignorance of "Use glory holes to prevent the spread of COVID" within 24 hours.
"Abstinence is the best policy."
Abstinance programs fail spectacularly every time. They've never worked.
Ignorance-only sex ed is begging for high pregnancy rates and high STD rates.
Abstinence is the only sure fire way to avoid either of those. That’s not ignorance, it’s just fucking biology.
Ignorance is thinking teenagers are going to follow that advice.
Ignorance is thinking teenagers are going to follow *any of* that advice.
Sex education, anti-smoking, drug and alcohol abuse... it's, much like other aspects of higher secondary education, long been demonstrated to be completely B.S. in terms of producing discernible and durable outcomes. Contraception, STDs, and abstinence all failed together in the STD spikes and teen pregnancy boom that went along with the Baby Boom, the HIV epidemic, the teen pregnancy spike in the 90s and 10s. Just look at monkeypox.
Again, cars, jobs, and computers/internet/video games have been far more effective at reducing teen pregnancies without necessarily breathing a word of contraception, STDs, or abstinence than virtually any amount of discussion of them.
Teaching gender theory to achieve some outcome is the same stupidity as mandatory algebra education to produce more engineers or English literature education to produce more Shakespeares (or women-in-STEM education to produce more Grace Hoppers). Anyone asserting otherwise is not educating, they're rent-seeking to indoctrinate.
"Abstinence is the only sure fire way to avoid either of those."
True. Abstinance is 100% effective in preventing both.
"Ignorance is thinking teenagers are going to follow that advice."
Agreed. It is also the content of abstinance-only sex ed. "You don't need to know that" is their refrain. It's intentionally keeping kids ignorant, to their detriment.
Would you prefer I call them ignorance-as-an-educational-goal classes? Nah, that's too cumbersome and my way is just as accurate.
Where by "post-enlightenment" I presume you mean "Of the Endarkenment".
I agree that basic sex ed was probably a good idea but the retards just couldn't let it stand at something like that and now they have to teach the "Genderbread Unicorn" bullshit to five year olds. Democrats are why we can't have nice things, Belle.
"now they have to teach the “Genderbread Unicorn” bullshit to five year olds"
Troll us some more.
"Troll us some more."
Wow.
I see the leftist is still trying to dictate to others. Indoctrination is not the teacher's job.
"Indoctrination is not the teacher’s job."
Agreed. Nor is creatimg intentionally ignorant students, like you prefer.
"...If you want to raise your child in ignorance , you homeschool..."
If you want to be truly STOOOPID, read what this shit posts.
Fuck off and die.
You mean ignorance as in I can change my gender at will?
Since gender is different than chromosomes or genetalia, why wouldn't you be able to change?
All it takes is the knowledge that you don't fit the cultural gender paradigm yoi were placed in, a different set of clothes, and a willingness to suffer abuse from self-impressed, ignorant fools.
Thousands of illegals are in facts on voter rolls.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/tens-thousands-non-citizens-made-it-pas-voter-rolls-20-years-says
I don't see another GOP president for a long time. The left has figured out a way to work the polls, weaponize federal agencies, and the press covers it up. The truly red states are the only glimmer at this point.
Yup.
Until drop-box and mail-in voting fraud are addressed the GOP will never win another election. This probably suits the GOPe just fine, as their racket is gleaning donations without actually having to do stuff, but it sucks for the voters wanting to stop the madness.
Huh, funny that Kobach did find them when Trump tapped him for his voter fraud commission.
Am I wrong or is this another of those potentially thousands of non-citizens could potentially be register, but we have no proof that any really are? When you get the proof that they really are register and that they really have voted, be sure to get back to us.
You’re wrong, if you had bothered to click the link….
Even at that: “The rolls of *eligible* voters are filled with ineligible non-political entites that could entirely thwart the political process, so what?” is a pretty retarded take from anyone even the slightest bit interested in (representative) democracy.
Like it’s OK to have millions of dead voters on the rolls because dead people don’t vote.
Evidence like this?
https://www.georgiarecord.com/breaking-evidence-to-be-released-18000-illegal-voters-in-2020-election-in-one-georgia-county-biden-margin-of-victory-was-11-779/
Or.
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/19-aliens-charged-voter-fraud-north-carolina-following-ice-investigation
This is why your claims of cleanest election ever are wrong. I can point to any state or election that actually looks into voter trails and find illegal votes. This is for the past century of voting.
It's a religious position that while 2016 was absolutely stolen, 2020 had no shenanigans whatsoever. Even if the incontrovertible truth is laid bare before them, they'll never admit it.
They don't have to. The fix is in.
"Thousands of illegals are in facts on voter rolls."
Consider the source, in this case the Public Interest Legal Foundation. They have a history of claiming idicators that don't necessarily mean a voter is a non-citizen indicate a non-citizen voter, falsely accusing citizens of being non-citizens, and doxxing people online, including full Social Security numbers.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/vote-fraud-crusader-j-christian-adams-sparks-outrage-n796026
""I was pissed," said Edmund Cochran, 35, of Fairfax County, Virginia, who had been tagged as a noncitizen voter (he was born in New Jersey) and found that his information was made public, including his full Social Security number."
""Ms. Erickson voted in 14 different elections — most recently in 2008 — before her registration was cancelled," PILF wrote in a report. ... But there was one problem. Erickson is a U.S. missionary living in Guatemala, lawfully voting absentee in Loudon County"
Why doesn't it surprise me that you believe a huckster like J. Christian Adams? Confirmation of your biases, not credible information, is what you look for.
The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) will soon be proposing new rules to clarify that synthetically manufactured cannabinoids like delta-8 THC are prohibited controlled substance...
Well, this is what we elected them to do.
ICWYDT
We is ruled by bureaucrats.
The queer activists of today have little in common with gay and lesbian activists of yore and "we are going backward, not forward," argues Andrew Sullivan.
Sullivan is wrong.
I prefer modern queer activists like Reason's Scott Shackford. Gay men absolutely should scold women for expressing discomfort about sharing female-only spaces (sports, bathrooms, locker rooms, prisons) with balding, bearded, obviously transgender "women."
Also if Sullivan prefers dick to "front hole," I learned that's called a GENITAL PREFERENCE. Only bigots have those. Literally exactly the same thing as saying "I won't date black people."
They need to be damn careful ostracizing real women like 17 Sticker Admiral Rachel Levine and the beautiful Lia Thomas.
#RealWomenHaveLadyDick
Still on your game OBL
It's always a move to the left as James Lindsay pointed out
Massachusetts is considering a bill to decriminalize prostitution.
Suddenly soccer moms don't vote?
Got to pay the inflated bills somehow?
Suddenly soccer moms got hit with inflation and still gotta pay the bills.
Pfizer tried to hide evidence the mRNA spike protein for covid can be transmitted through breast milk. We know the vaccine is connected to a rise in myocarditis. Babies have a spike in heart inflammation. WHO refuses to acknowledge the link.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/benbartee/2023/05/20/who-blames-enterovirus-for-surge-in-severe-myocarditis-in-uk-infants-ignores-mrna-shots-n1696881
100% safe and effective with no downsides!
Mike will be by in a minute to remind you that he never said that.
"100% safe and effective with no downsides!"
That sounds like pure hyperbole. I guarantee no reputable medical person ever said that. In medicine, there isn't *anything* that doean't have a downside (or three).
I provide Sqrlsy with similar studies demonstrating that the mRNA injections were still creating inflammatory spike proteins in some people months after being injected. He said inflammation was probably a good thing.
I imagine your study will probably engender the same reaction in Mike, JFree and sarcasmic.
Mike and Jeff already claimed natural covid produces even more myocarditis so forcing the vaccine on everyone even those who weren’t infected isn't a big deal. Despite the vaccines infecting people multiple times with the protein if they also got covid, which they did.
"A guaranteed, multiple exposure is a lesser risk than a potentially non-existent exposure"
- lefties simping for big pharma and state coercion
These cases are isolated to Wales. Are infant myocarditis rates rising elsewhere? I can't find any reports.
Also PCR testing confirmed enterovirus infections in the infants.
Reports of myocarditis have been reported as an increase across the globe, linked to vaccines. Most mild cases are never reported unless they are actively looking for it such as a French Hospital did in 2020. Generally only serious cases have been caught. But there is a large surge in young athlete heart attacks to butress the known increases in myocardolitis post vaccination schedules, the increase didn't occur until vaccinations were introduced.
This has been discussed here with studies for years. I'm not going to relink every study posted the last 4 years for you.
I’m not going to relink every study posted the last 4 years for you.
Yeah, that's OK. I don't need more links to bullshit stories like this one anyway.
And hence why I didn’t bother. Your only goal is to dismiss anything you know as a fact apriori buttressed by nothing.
Ask anyone here and they will tell you dozens of these studies have been posted. But ignorance is easier.
Nominally a libertarian would be upset with Pfizer hiding the transference data of the proteins while government was declaring it 100% safe and effective, but you do you. Not bothering to try to convince those who never question government. JFree has the same belief system as you.
Ask anyone here and they will tell you dozens of these studies have been posted. But ignorance is easier.
I have seen and read the articles you are referring to. I know that the vaccines are linked to myocarditis. But I asked a very specific question: “Are infant myocarditis rates rising elsewhere?” Nothing has been posted about infants.
The conclusion that 15 cases of myocarditis in infants that test positive for an enterovirus in a small geographic area that only began 2 years after mass vaccination is caused by spike protein in breast milk does not fit. So I asked if more supporting evidence was available. All I got was condescension.
If there is indeed a linkage in adults, which you appear to concede, then it's bizarre that you find it improbable that a smaller human with a lesser immune system would be immune to the effect.
I'd be curious to hear your reasoning on that one.
Thanks BYODB. I wouldn’t doubt at all that vaccinating the infant could cause myocarditis. In that case, the mRNA is in the child’s body. In the case of breast milk, it is the spike protein that present (not the mRNA). Milk is about 3% protein. We eat foreign proteins all the time and they do not cause issues in healthy people because when we ingest proteins they are not absorbed whole, but digested into amino acids, thus little or no spike protein (or any protein) will make it past the gut.
The real reason I doubt this story though is, if the vaccine was causing a 9000% increase in infant myocarditis as it did in Wales, we would know about it. It would be a huge problem.
Also, these cases began well after the peak vaccination. It would have started in 2121 if it was vaccine related.
An enterovirus enters through the intestine.
An enterovirus enters the gut by binding to a cell recepter and getting endocytosed then hijacking the cell machinery to reproduce.
You said digestion would break it down.
Viruses are not proteins.
“The real reason I doubt this story though is, if the vaccine was causing a 9000% increase in infant myocarditis as it did in Wales, we would know about it.”
How would we know about it, though? What legacy media outlet would report on it? What academic or medical journal would publish such a finding? Any individual reporter, doctor, or researcher who tried to disseminate information like this would get the mob smear treatment (“anti-science!” “right-wing conspiracy theorist!”) with the intent (and effect) of making them radioactive and unemployable.
We know about it in Wales. We know about the vaccine causing myocarditis. The truth gets out. Your scenario would require North Korea level control of information. I don't think we're there yet.
Actually, a less efficient immune system might just offer some protection against vaccine induced myocarditis. Why? Because it is very likely that the myocarditis is a direct result of the immune system attacking spike proteins generated by the vaccine’s mRNA, that have migrated to the heart muscles. The first jab in most adults teaches their immune system that the (esp Wuhan variant) spike proteins are antigens. Then, on the second and subsequent jabs, the mRNA travels from the injection site, to the lymph nodes, thence into the circulatory system, and thence to much of the rest of the body, lodging in various inconvenient sites in the body. They then enter cells (primarily through their ACE2 receptors - which is one reason that we know the virus is very likely man made), and start producing spike proteins. Eventually, the spike proteins become noticeable on the surface of the cell, and if the immune system recognizes them as antigens (after the 1st jab), it generates corresponding antibodies, that interact to cause the cells presenting the spike proteins to be eliminated (killed). If enough of the cells involved are heart muscle cells, their elimination causes myocarditis.
Keep that in mind - most of the side effects from the vaccines are an immune response to detecting and killing cells containing spike proteins generated by the mRNA in the vaccines.
Again, myocarditis is only checked for usually as a secondary or tertiary test. It is rarely broadly tested for. Again one hospital i remember doing it for all covid patients.
But we have seen the rise in heart issues since the vaccine release not found strictly in 2019. This is in many medical databases including the military medical databases.
Not sure why you're pushing so hard against broadly agreed to evidence.
Not sure why you’re pushing so hard against broadly agreed to evidence.
There is no broadly agreed upon evidence that breast feeding babies get myocarditis from vaccinated mothers. The narrative does not fit the evidence.
Ok Mike
What's that supposed to mean? If you have evidence to discount my claim, please share it. I'm seeking the truth, not to prove I'm right. I admit to being human with the associated confirmation biases, but I try my best to learn and admit when I'm wrong. So point me to the evidence because I found nothing.
Nominally a libertarian would be upset with Pfizer hiding the transference data of the proteins while government was declaring it 100% safe and effective, but you do you.
*cough*PAID FOR UP FRONT*cough**cough*JUST LIKE GOF RESEARCH*cough*
Are you trying to claim the people of Wales aren't human or is this just th he latest "why do you care" dodge from ignorant cultists desperate for the security of their State bubble?
No. I'm saying that if this was caused by the jab it would be everywhere, not isolated to Wales.
You can't honestly believe the Welsh are real humans. Their language is machine-readable only.
“Pfizer tried to hide evidence the mRNA spike protein for covid can be transmitted through breast milk.”
This information, which has been available since at least July, 2021, was being hidden by Pfizer? Weird how you can find information about it easily. Maybe your source isn’t credible?
“We know the vaccine is connected to a rise in myocarditis.”
Yes, at a rate of 4 per 100,000. Can we agree that is a very small rate?
And someone as well-informed as you would know myocarditis is almost never permenant, right? You aren’t trying to fearmonger, right?
“Babies have a spike in heart inflammation.”
Not from what is found in data from reputable medical sources. But they probably aren’t as good a source as pjmedia, right? I mean, those guys are the gold standard in medical information.
“WHO refuses to acknowledge the link.”
Probably because medical science differentiates between correlation, causation, and speculation unsupported by data, and the "link" is the latter.
You do love your confirmation bias, don’t you?
The left-right spectrum is mostly meaningless.
The number of position flip-flops over the Trump-then-covid era suggests that is essentially true at this point.
The queer activists of today have little in common with gay and lesbian activists of yore and "we are going backward, not forward," argues Andrew Sullivan.
How has Sullivan not been canceled.
How come Sullivan doesn't want to castrate confused gay kids? The monster.
Now do 'born this way' vs. 'gender-fluid'
Paid subscriber only columns? 😀
"Oh no, state authorities won't be allowed to abuse children (as much) and bully them into being gay!"
After decades of letting border states bear the brunt of spending on illegal immigration with underpayment from the federal government, big blue urban centers demand cost sharing from just tens of thousands sent to their cities. But there is zero cost of illegal immigration.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/send-migrants-to-the-cities-villages-towns-across-america-so-its-not-a-burden-on-nyc-mayor-says
There's no way any Democrat would say that.
I read Koch-funded libertarians. That's why I'm aware of the following two ironclad rules:
1. Unlimited, unrestricted immigration has only benefits, no drawbacks.
2. Democrat-controlled areas always practice what they preach on immigration.
I expect Fiona to submit a column later today clearing this up.
> I expect Fiona to submit a column later today clearing this up.
Same.
"Mayor Adams is just *throwing money away* by not accepting all those economy increasing immigrants into his city!"
"to ensure that those who are coming here to this country in a lawful manner"
Whoops!
The key here is that this demonstrates that there is an unseen cost of immigration. In the ratcheting of "simple" libertarianism, when a property right is subsumed by the government, the property right loses the right to exclude.
Example: I own a park, and people come onto my land arguing that I should convert to Scientology. I kick them off.
The government nationalizes my land, and says that in return I get to help decide how that land will be used through the democratic process. Scientologists show up badgering people. Morally speaking, the right to exclude those people from the property still exists, and it is not immoral to try and exercise the same rights you had as a private owner, that were appropriated to the government using the process designated by that government. (It is noteworthy that the democratic process in OUR government permits a lot of free expression, via the First Amendment.)
This is not to argue against free speech. This is to show that libertarians are stealing a base when they argue that Rights as allowed by the government must morally be as permissive as possible. The moral harm is not in a person using the democratic process to exercise the right to exclude- the moral harm is caused by appropriating the land in the first place.
The same is true for the right to exclude immigrants. What we see Mayor Adams doing is trying to exercise his city's rights to permit or exclude. That is neither moral or immoral- he holds the rights of transit in trust. The real moral infraction was the Federal Government assuming this right and dumping people on land without inhabitant's consent. And of course it is also a moral infraction that the city of New York has appropriated all sorts of land for use via the democratic process.
Mind you, those who think that my calculation is anti-immigrant should game this out. If we were to make the moral choice and render as much as possible to the private sphere, then very likely people from around the world would be able to come to the United States with sponsorship from employers in the country. And there would be plenty of people willing to sell them housing.
The government nationalizes my land, and says that in return I get to help decide how that land will be used through the democratic process. Scientologists show up badgering people. Morally speaking, the right to exclude those people from the property still exists, and it is not immoral to try and exercise the same rights you had as a private owner, that were appropriated to the government using the process designated by that government.
Couldn't this argument be used to rationalize a ban on free speech or anything?
Thank you for asking. This is limited directly to what we allow on public property. Because "Public Property" is private property seized by the nation.
I am making two distinctions here.
The first distinction is between freedoms we have, and freedoms others have over their property rights. When we talk about speaking on public property, or teaching at school, we aren't just talking about freedom of speech. We are talking about property rights to allow or disallow speech using that property. The government has nationalized a park from private owners or nationalized an entire industry of education from parents and educators. So any "free speech" right of the individual needs to be balanced against property rights of people whose property rights were nationalized to a public process.
And this brings the second distinction- moral versus pragmatic. I think it is immoral to ban someone from associating with others. But that is different from allowing or disallowing association on property that was nationalized. There is nothing immoral about saying "My right over this property includes the right to exclude you from speaking here." And I don't think there is anything immoral about saying, "Since the government has taken this private land and made it public, I will vote for you to be excluded from speaking here."
While that may be morally acceptable, we may pragmatically argue differently. We like free expression, so our democratic process (including the First Amendment) makes it very difficult for us to invoke the property right to exclude. And so I am sympathetic to people who argue that it is a good idea to lower restrictions on immigration and speech etc.
And this all flows back to the final point: Libertarians should be less interested in bitching about the pragmatic, and more interested in bitching about the moral. The moral wrong is the Federal Government nationalizing our property rights via immigration mandates. It isn't immoral to balk at them dumping thousands of people on our collective property. They are the immoral ones for coopting this right.
Thanks for the thorough answer, Overt. I think I follow and maybe disagree, but it's a complicated issue that I'd like to think on more.
Personally, I think the justification to limit immigration is justifiable because we are a de facto welfare state. This is a pragmatic reason, but ultimately goes back to the same core issue of nationalized property. We agree on that much at least.
The problem is that it isnt even unseen effects. It is known effects. In the 90s arizona news was covered woth the loss of all trauma 1 centers in Arizona due to illegal immigrants. This included known actors crossing the border and calling for medical copters just over the border. Uncompensated costs born by the hospitals and tax papers. English as a second language costs are 3x more than citizen education costs for k-12. These are known costs. Then the Lott study on population metrics of arizona prisons where illegal immigrants were significantly more likely to be incarcerated, at cost to government. This doesn't even include costs from theft including identity.
These costs are known and have been known for decades. Many simply refuse to admit it.
I agree that the costs of immigration in money are pretty well known.
What I am arguing is the "unseen cost" of property rights.
ENB and all the others argue that it is good for immigrants to enjoy the freedom of movement. What is unseen is the cost of property rights for individuals. They previously had the right to include or exclude others from the property, and the government dumping people on their public land has costed them this right.
The Babylon Bee once again only *narrowly* scooping reality.
4 days from satire to serious!
https://babylonbee.com/news/new-york-mayor-declares-texas-a-sanctuary-state-for-immigrants
So the criticism of the Texas "Don't Even Think Gay" bill is based on a proposed substitute for a bill that passed the Texas legislature by a unanimous vote but the substitute hasn't actually even been voted on yet? Is that correct? We're hyperventilating about a proposal?
We’re hyperventilating about a proposal?
Sure. It is good politickin'.
See also the breathless repeats of REPARATIONS! articles. The very idea of zero support reparations proposals piss off 84% of voters but it makes good political fodder.
Remember that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
The Democratic Party of 2023 will accuse people of "genocide" for expressing views the Democratic Party of 2013 considered uncontroversial: men cannot get pregnant, ze / zir aren't valid English pronouns, etc.
I realize a key component of your #DefendDemocratsAtAllCosts strategy is to downplay the importance of their leftmost fringe. But it's naive to think a party obsessed with identity-based issues won't radicalize on reparations like they've radicalized on the trans stuff.
“But it’s naive to think a party obsessed with identity-based issues won’t radicalize on reparations like they’ve radicalized on the trans stuff.”
5 Years ago trannies were still transexuals or transvestites, and were considered obscure, sad, and tragic.
Today its not abnormal for a “trans woman” with a cock and adams apple to scream at, bully, intimidate, and sometimes assault a smaller actual woman who doesn’t agree to their mental delusion, to the cheers and applause of the media, with multimillion dollar sponsorships and commercials for trannies and regular tongue bathings by talk shows, corpos, and the fucking POTUS on live TV.
I agree with you that the fringe is the most important part to watch, as they are clearly fully in the driver’s seat.
Id imagine in 10 years Obama’s campaign platform would get most people sent to the gulag for wrong-think (but he will of course still be lionized regardless, because doublethink will always be strong)
they are clearly fully in the driver’s seat
It amazes me to what degree conservatives will either: (a) passively allow the fringe to control the conversation while using the fringe's statements to fuel their own victimhood narrative; (b) push back in only the most childish ways instead of doing the harder work of calmly debating the issue in a grown-up manner.
Calmly debate with the words are violence crowd? Un-possible.
Ya, I dont want to embiggen them
You just exemplified (a) above.
Don’t debate with that particular little group of people. Ignore them.
Trans activists don't debate retard. They seek to fire, assault, and even shoot up schools.
GFY. You mendacious twat
There's a huge difference between the growth in influence of the transgender movement vs. the chances of reparations ever happening: reparations would cost a lot of money.
There may also be a subtler influence working against reparations. If there ever were reparations, then there would be reason to tell black people to stop complaining about the past because they have been compensated. They would be under pressure to give up their own victimhood narrative.
Yeah, we all thought that would happen when a black man was elected president. Twice.
Fail.
So many victimhood narratives, mike, so little time.
Must be why you never mention the ones that motivate people to kill their imagined oppressors.
Today its not abnormal for a “trans woman” with a cock and adams apple to scream at, bully, intimidate, and sometimes assault a smaller actual woman who doesn’t agree to their mental delusion, to the cheers and applause of the media, with multimillion dollar sponsorships and commercials for trannies and regular tongue bathings by talk shows, corpos, and the fucking POTUS on live TV.
Twenty or so years ago this friend of mine was walking home from work at night. He did the closing shift as a bartender. Across the street he sees what looks like a hooker and says "Yo, how much?" Turns out it was a dude, and after a few words they were throwing punches in the street. My friend swore he had the upper hand and was screaming "It's a man! It's a fucking man!" when a bunch of college kids pulled him off. And that's why he was wearing makeup on his eye. I'm thinking it was a true story. I mean, why would someone make up getting beat up by a transvestite?
These days, what your friend did there would be considered a hate crime.
We’re hyperventilating about a proposal?
Don't Say Gay wasn't even a proposal. The entire magazine has gone full JFree on the subject. Every bill has got a bear in the trunk.
Yup. I think you just about nailed it.
""don't say gay" law"
Reason 'dont say gay' counter: 30 something by now?
Reason coverage of tranny shooter in Nashville: still 0
Should we have a drink for each time ENB says "Don't Say Gay"?
That would soon drink up all the booze not stolen by the regulators in Oregon.
Reason coverage of tranny shooter in Nashville: still 0
You know the count isn’t zero, but, hey, why not outright lie about it.
I'll provide this cite, for, what, the third time:
https://reason.com/2023/03/27/the-problems-with-just-getting-guns-out-of-peoples-hands-as-a-solution-to-gun-violence/
Mention that "a shooting happend" + link to lefty propaganda, coverage does not make.
Despite your 5th attempt to pretend it does
Keep playing your goal post-moving games.
Nah, same gripe. And you keep having the same inadequate response.
Looking forward to actual coverage, let me know when you see
At least they had a sentence there. Still nothing on Biden LLCs.
I feel certain those grandkids gave valuable advice to the Chinese energy market, and deserve compensation.
What about when you bring up your gripe again, as you do on a regular basis, that you describe your gripe accurately.
Well mike, was Audrey hale motivated by a “ victimhood narrative”, or just the people who wonder why this mass killer was an afterthought in the reason news cycle?
You’re doin a helluva job Mikey. Keep that laser focus on victim narratives, and be sure to let us know when you see one from the left, K?
"A person did some things."
CTRL+F 'trans' = 0/0
Now do the Biden pay for play scandals
GFY. You mendacious twat.
A one line mention could hardly be considered “coverage”, though I could have sworn there was one full length article about it.
Also, what Fats said.
That sounds reasonable. And yet…while upholding parents' rights, Creighton's version of H.B. 890 would seem to infringe on children's rights in negative ways.
.
For instance, it says that school districts may not "withhold information from a parent regarding the parent's child" and that they must inform parents of "any change in services provided to or monitoring of the student related to the student's mental, emotional, or physical health or well-being." This could be read to require school counselors and other staff to report to parents if a student of any age talks to them about mental health issues, gender issues, struggles at home, sexuality, contraception, or any number of things that some students may have good reason to want to keep from their parents.
Why does ENB consider this a bad thing? Paragraph above admits to parent rights, yet she seems to disagree with those rights.
It seems section (b) attempts to mitigate concerns about the broadness of section (a). But saying students can talk about gender and sexuality issues at school and/or with a counselor so long as their parents allow it and the school doesn't deem it disruptive is not terribly reassuring.
No school instruction should ever be hid from parents. This has been upheld in states and federal courts.
ENB prefers indoctrination hidden from parents. Schools are not moral centers. They should not attempt to take a lead in teaching morality. Yet ENB seemingly promotes them as the leaders here.
A more narrowly tailored parents' rights solution might give parents who object to such instruction or programming a right to opt their kids out; instead, this says it's not allowed for anyone.
Note opt out, not opt in. ENB wants the default to be indoctrination.
Parents are still free to teach whatever political or moral paradigm they want to their children. ENB advocates for schools to do that by default.
children's rights
Now do abortion.
They will say clumps of cells have no rights.
So scientific. I believe!
Praise Science, hallowed be xir name!
Now do abortion.
Anybody remember a kid who took his Mom's guns, killed her with them, and then proceeded to kill a bunch of other kids with them? Anyone?
How about a show of hands who would think that it would be a good idea to tip parents off in such a situation? Anyone?
Anybody remember a kid who showed up in school with his parents' handgun but didn't shoot anyone? Show of hands, who would think it would be a good idea to keep this a secret from parents? Anyone?
They have no natural human rights until they graduate kindergarten with their sex & gender ed certificates.
"Why does ENB consider this a bad thing?"
Absolutely absurd.
If a school counselor is worried that a child is suicidal or suffering some other mental health issue, then the FIRST priority is to notify the parents or guardians who own the primary responsibility of raising the child. This is not negotiable. This is not open to debate.
And people who throw out the "what about abuse!" card need to step back. No teacher or counselor is allowed to make this decision themselves. If a counselor or teacher suspects that this child is in an abusive relationship, then their responsibility is to report this issue to the state.
Think about the arrogance of this formulation. "I know little Jimmy has abusive AF parents, but I can manage it by carefully regulating what information those parents find out." There is no way in the world that this is an effective, or moral solution. It is nothing more than a smoke screen for people who want a convenient excuse to bypass a parent's rights and responsibility to raise those children.
On the one hand, I'd expect that ENB will suddenly get interested in parents' rights when her kid starts getting put through the grinder of public education. On the other hand, since she is naturally inclined to agree with whatever these Agents of the State push on her kids, she very likely will never feel the need to question whether it is morally acceptable or not.
Notice how narrowly these people define "health care" and "mental health". Abortion is the new health care and swapping genders more often than underwear is the new mental health. With names like women's health and mental health, they obviously have the kids' best interest at heart.
Yeah, that part stood out to me as well. Like, I damn well should be informed by an agent of the state if my kid confides in them something that is affecting their mental/physical well being.
I would question how "children's rights" are paramount here.
If my son discusses mental health issues, the school better fucking well tell me or the teachers will suffer dramatically more than MENTAL health issues.
= when the libertarian belief in sane parental rights conflicts with the leftytarian belief in child sexual liberation and gender anarchy
Tim Scott, Negro Republican, enters 2024 GOP primary field.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/22/politics/tim-scott-2024-presidential-campaign/index.html
Trump testing belittling nicknames for Scott.....
How DARE you disobey my command to vote Democrat! Don't you know what MY party does for YOU people?!
You're so far beyond parody. Might as well scribble another schoolboy love letter to ENB then gloat about rig count.
We should repeal that 19th Amendment, Sandy.
I'm with conservatives on that one. Women don't have the sense to vote.
Look at all that redirection.
Hilarious, but if only males could vote that would be terrible for Democrats. Even importing millions of male "Brown bodies" and lowering the voting age to 8 might not save them.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. Turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
“Negro Republican”
This is the part that angers Buttplug the most.
Scratch a prog and find a racist.
You know that the GOP will never support a black dude for POTUS. NEVER. And Scott is an authentic Christian unlike Fatass Donnie.
Scott won’t scratch 4%.
But WHAT WILL DONNIE’S NICK FOR HIM?
Token?
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. Turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
"You know that the GOP will never support a black dude for POTUS. NEVER."
I don't know that, but I do know that on the off chance he wins, the Democrats will be digging out all their old white hoods and robes again.
Shrike is too dumb to know Tim Scott is running and has good support.
Shrike is too dumb to remember ripping on Herman Cain when he was running for president and then on Trumps Cabinet.
I miss Spermin' Herman!
GOP Token Negro 2012 version.
"on the off chance he wins, the Democrats will be digging out all their old white hoods and robes again."
Buttplug, on the other hand, won't have to dig. They're already neatly ironed and hanging in the closet.
How did Kamala poll in 2020?
Corey Booker?
If Tim Scott were to do well enough to become a threat to Trump in the primary and Biden in the general, the most flagrantly racist statements you’d hear would be coming from Black Democrat politicians and media personalities, denouncing him as a sellout and an Uncle Tom and a “house Negro,” all while trying to catch ignorant ass Ever-Trump MAGA hats saying insensitive things about him to broadcast.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
The two first names thing is already a point against him in my book, but that is just my own personal bias.
What a racist scumbag art thou, dipshit. Who the fuck in the 21st century, much less any later than 1970, says "Negro" to describe someone who's black?
Right, the proper term is Negrx. If you're going to come to this country, at least take the time to learn English.
*snerk!*
Pedoplug the shit-eating racist
I appreciate when you put your racism on full display.
"Tim Scott, Negro Republican"
...not a racist.
Trivializing antisemitism.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/05/22/the-left-is-trivialising-anti-semitism-again/
Bizarrely, three of the speakers were accused of promoting anti-Semitism. Conservative MP Miriam Cates was essentially called an anti-Semite for her use of the term ‘Cultural Marxism’ in her speech. Author and commentator Douglas Murray was accused of minimising the Holocaust after he made a joke about the behaviour of the Germans in the First and Second World Wars. And historian David Starkey was viciously attacked for suggesting that supporters of Black Lives Matter are making a big issue out of slavery because they are jealous of the moral authority of the Holocaust.
You don’t have to agree with the views espoused by these three speakers – it is entirely legitimate to disagree with them for being wrong or insensitive. But these accusations of anti-Semitism are totally groundless. They are motivated by an impulse to police what can and cannot be said. Worse still, they trivialise the scourge of anti-Jewish hatred. This tendentious weaponisation of the charge of anti-Semitism can only empower genuine anti-Semites who will find it easier to dismiss their critics as disingenuous.
The ADF report on antisemitic statements rising was filled with anti soros statements about his politics. Basically if you disagree with someone of Semitic heritage on the left, you're antisemitic per ADF.
Worse still, they trivialise the scourge of anti-Jewish hatred.
Seems a bit hyperbolic, unless we are talking about ME Muslims.
But the left got a pass when they disagreed with Sheldon Adelson.
It has worked well for labelling all of the minorities that don't fall in line as white supremacists. We have made so much progress that black people can now be white supremacists.
Trimming NLRB power.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_e4889220-f659-11ed-9809-2febeee593b4.html
Newly introduced legislation would significantly limit the power of the National Labor Relations Board, an independent federal agency that currently holds broad sway over businesses, including small businesses.
U.S. Rep. Bob Good, R-Va., introduced the “Small Businesses Before Bureaucrats Act” this week. In 1958, Congress set standards for which businesses the NLRB had jurisdiction over, which includes any retail business with annual revenue topping $500,000 and non-retail businesses with annual revenue over $50,000.
Because of inflation, more and more small businesses have been caught by the dated figures, which originally only applied to much larger businesses.
Good’s legislation raises the threshold for NLRB’s jurisdiction, raising it to $5,000,000 for retail businesses and $500,000 for non-retail businesses.
“The NLRB has used outdated standards to impose greater power over businesses which never should have been regulated by the Federal Government in the first place,” Good told The Center Square. “This is consistent with Biden Administration's weaponization of federal agencies against everyday Americans to implement its radical agenda.”
I dependant? Every person that works there is a marxist
Max Nelsen, director of Labor Policy at the Freedom Foundation, said that the NLRB is no longer a neutral arbiter between labor and business but has sided with unions for political reasons. That alleged bias, along with the NLRB’s steadily growing power, has impacted small businesses.
Max, that has always how its been - though to be fair it works both ways. The board is not bound by precedent, so its rulings sway back and forth with no rhyme or reason, other then whose in power and what their current preferences are.
Good on them if they can get them off smaller businesses backs, but this really just a half measure.
Given that they probably should have bumped the thresholds by another factor of ten, it's not even a half measure... 😉
“Small Businesses Before Bureaucrats Act”?
Well, I am just not impressed with that acronym at all.
It's like Texas expects their teachers to teach and not indoctrinate
Or, at least, there are certain things it is not the purview of k through 12 schools to teach.
just get rid of the public schools already. All these controversies go away.
Then our enlightened government will have to abduct them in order to model their beliefs and values.
Used to be schools focused on things like reading and math; those days are gone.
"For instance, it says that school districts may not "withhold information from a parent regarding the parent's child" and that they must inform parents of "any change in services provided to or monitoring of the student related to the student's mental, emotional, or physical health or well-being." This could be read to require school counselors and other staff to report to parents if a student of any age talks to them about mental health issues, gender issues, struggles at home, sexuality, contraception, or any number of things that some students may have good reason to want to keep from their parents"
The fact that you think this is a bad thing, means you're a bad person, ENB. You're not compassionate, you've become evil.
If a child is talking about any of these things, that's the parents business, not the schools. The school isn't a co-parent. It's an educational facility, that's it.
The teacher also isn't a co-parent. They are there to tutor 30+ children in math, science and language for a year. Not to play mom or confidant.
If the teacher suspects that the child can't go to parents because of abuse, then that's a matter for the police and social workers and not the school, and it should immediately be reported.
But let's be honest here, you only want schools to keep secrets from parents because you want the children imbued with your perverted gender and sexual ideologies that you know parents will be resistant to. No compassion is involved.
I truly feel sorry for her kid. Did she even want it? Sounds like she can't wait to pawn off all responsibilities to a teacher.
It’s an educational facility,
HAHA! good one!
Maybe ENB just assumes all of us Texas parents are abusive assholes?
> They are there to tutor 30+ children in math, science and language for a year.
And for the most part, they suck at even that.
"...so long as their parents allow it [...] is not terribly reassuring..."
Can't have parents making choices for their minor offspring when the gov't knows better!
https://twitter.com/KILLTOPARTY/status/1660634006029778947?t=ESWRu7gAd3bZz5kzoqHy7w&s=19
Welcome to Hell
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"How Businesses Will React if the Supreme Court Overrules Chevron
[...]
"...The US Supreme Court may soon decide whether it will continue to defer to federal agencies’ reasonable interpretations of ambiguous federal statutes—over those statutes’ best reading..."
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/how-businesses-will-react-if-the-supreme-court-overrules-chevron
Bloomberg, hence the stench of the left, but banning gas appliances is a 'reasonable' interpretation of the EPA's authority to watermelons, EPA officials and pretty much no one else.
SCOTUS needs to overturn Chevron, and as far as I'm concerned, Wickard while they're at it.
and about 50 others but those two would be a good start.
Baby steps...
Miller
Just another blessing of Commie-Education…
If you don’t want ‘government’ in charge of educating your kids; don’t put ‘government’ in charge of educating your kids…. That day common-sense poked it’s head out of the web of socialistic deception.
Progressives: Those poor, oppressed LGBQ kids are being oppressed by those oppressive oppressors!
Conservatives: IT'S THE END OF SOCIETY AS WE KNOW IT!
Libertarians: Why the fuck does this need to be legislated?
You get dumber and more desperate by the day.
Mute list maintenance uses most of his brain power... I hope he takes it easy because Hihn's enemies list maintenance killed him.
“Conservatives: IT’S THE END OF SOCIETY AS WE KNOW IT!”
"oppressed LGBQ kids"
I noticed you left out most important (and dangerous) part of the acronym. The gender dysphoria tranny non binary group.
State sanctioned sponsorship of an ideology that statistically leads to mental illness, sadness, and ruining kids lives…
I mean are they wrong?
I'm just pointing out how different political ideologies view the world.
Progressives see oppressed and oppressors and want more government to fix it.
Conservatives see society crumbling and want more government to fix it.
Libertarians wonder why everyone else sees coercion as the answer to every question.
In this case conservatives are paying (as is everyone else) for the state to educate children.
As both a funder, and potential receiver of said education for their children, they have a right to demand accountability for the end product.
Imagine if we all paid taxes for roads and bridges, and half the time the crews were purposefully creating notable and provable structural weakness, sabotaging the infrastructure, and then just saying "well the libertarian thing to do would be to not demand any accountability, because that might mean actually doing something or creating some legislation that the road/construction crew do their job to the public's satisfaction"
I understand that you are a conservative, not a libertarian, that you see this as a problem that will destroy society if not checked, that you demand more government to fix the problem before civilization falls under the weight of these perverse ideologies, and anyone who disagrees with you is a fool who wants to bring about the end of the world.
I get it.
Conservatives aren't always right, but this is another clear cut case where the conservatives are correct and the left is extremely dangerous.
I draw my line with intentionally fucking up kids.
And I find it pointless to attempt conversations with people who assume everyone who disagrees with them is full of malice. That's what's called arguing in bad faith.
In this case it's not necessarily malice. But it is putting their ideology above data.
Data shows that it is fucking up kids. They think they are doing the right thing, and are ignoring the data because in their mind its an objective good.
Its a mix of hubris, stupidity, zealotry, and good intentions, with potential malice. But it doesn't necessarily have to be malice. There are other great reasons they are wrong here.
Data shows that it is fucking up kids.
They'll say the kids were already fucked up, and that they are helping.
"They’ll say the kids were already fucked up, and that they are helping."
Of course they will, and this is provably false. Mental illness rates are the same before and after transition, and suicidality remains extremely high (far out of proportion to gen pop, and not statistically lower).
If they start teaching kids that gravity actually isnt real and they can walk across a chasm without fear, the adults have a responsibility to tell them they are teaching magic thinking that is dangerous. Just because they said they proved Newton wrong doesn't mean they actually did, and the burden of proof is on them if they want to tell my kid he should take a leap of faith.
Likewise mental health issues continue to climb in dem controlled schooling systems since the creation of SEL programs. Sarc will ignore this because it shows a cause from an effect caused by democrats. He would rather attack you for understanding the issues than admit a Democrat policy is making things worse.
Ohhhhhhh……
This is like when I had a conversation with a woman about school choice and she was all for it because she saw the word “choice” and assumed I meant school nurses giving abortions.
While I’m ambivalent on the whole pick-whatever-pronoun-suits-you thing, I’m 100% against surgery or hormones for minors.
JesseAz, please go away. The adults are having a conversation.
Yes. Mike and I are. Youre adding nothing to the conversation. Your 2nd argument to dismiss MPs discussion was to accuse him of being a conservative. Lol.
You literally accused him of being a conservative for merely pointing out the flaws in your argument. Lol.
I draw my line with intentionally fucking up kids.
The people you say are intentionally fucking up kids would likely argue that only a malicious person who hates children would prohibit access to information and treatment.
You say they are intentionally causing harm, and they say you are intentionally causing harm.
The data backs up Mike. I understand ignorance is your forte.
But even from a first impression perspective politics, sex, indoctrination should not occur in publicly funded institutions. You continue to seemingly be okay with it as you fight against any attempts to regulate it.
Some of us don't want our kids keying up cars. Not all of us are bad parents.
The point here is the people "likely arguing" X don't matter. They are agents of the state. They do not get to choose what message they will deliver to other peoples' kids. The parents of those kids do. And polling on the subject confirms that parents, and the public in general, does not want agents of the state preaching these ideologies on children.
It sure would be great if schooling weren't a Zero Sum game where all our curriculum must be decided at the State level. But until that changes, there is nothing morally wrong with parents trying to manage how the State will indoctrinate their kids.
I don’t even know what the argument is over at this point. Some say school nurses are chopping dicks off, others say kids are getting hormones without parental consent, while others are afraid of library books. In all cases the standard argument is “You want such and such which makes you a terrible person so I’m going to insult you now.”
Some say school nurses are chopping dicks off,
Who is saying this?
others say kids are getting hormones without parental consent,
It is true and they are open about it.
https://thepostmillennial.com/trans-activist-accused-of-sexual-abuse-boasts-of-plans-to-illegally-distribute-hormones-to-children
while others are afraid of library books.
They aren't afraid of shit. They don't want books telling kids how to sign up for grindr and showing cartoons of minors giving blow jobs.
How is so much of what you know lies and strawman arguments?
Tie goes to the parents.
What is so hard about that?
Reminder. If you disagree with sarc he is allowed to call you a conservative. But don't ever call him the obvious lefty neocon he is.
The government employee being forbidden from indoctrinating your captive child is NOT “more government”, it is in fact less, you dimwitted Marxist
I don't see this as more intervention. The state is already heavily involved in education. The question is what should be taught in government schools given that they're a thing and will remain a thing for the foreseeable future. Conservatives are decent at calling out progressives for their moral-cultural iconoclasm and hegemonic ideological warfare, but generally awful at writing legislation to address it without going full retard. Republican state legislators are unmitigated morons.
Great response Mr parsons.
Third time you've rationalized your belief system with this idiocy. You've convinced nobody.
The reason for these laws is that schools are still public. Teachers are violating parental rights and indoctrinating kids instead of education them. So these laws are a response to democrat activist actions.
Yes the preference is to privatize schools, but that is not the current state.
In your desperation to defend the left by both siding every dem criticism you continue to look like a clown.
Libertarians wonder why everyone else sees coercion as the answer to every question.
Fallacious nonsense. Setting limits on agents of the state is not coercion, it is freedom. It is more in the nature of "we shouldn't have to legislate this, but since you fucking activists in public education insist on indoctrinating children instead of educating them, we are left with no choice."
"It is more in the nature of “we shouldn’t have to legislate this, but since you fucking activists in public education insist on indoctrinating children instead of educating them, we are left with no choice.”
This fully represents my opinion on the matter
Muted liar can suck a bag of dicks for calling me an activist, and so can you for accepting his premise.
Poor sarc.
I mean, he isn't calling YOU an activist here, he is saying activists are pushing for it. I guess unless you are directly pushing for it rather than just enabling them by handcuffing yourself in the corner like a good L.
But I do appreciate the quickness with which you will invite people to suck a bag of dicks. That certainly escalated quickly. Im entertained.
Yeah, I figured he had muted me since Friday.
And why am I muted? Valid criticisms. Not for calling him a liar, but for demonstrating that he either can't or won't formulate honest arguments.
Not that it matters, his response would have been the same either way. The guy has the critical thinking skills of an 8th grader.
Congrats!
Envious
I mean, he isn’t calling YOU an activist here, he is saying activists are pushing for it.
Read what you quoted. He lumped me in with the activists. That's what "you activists" means. It's a rhetorical technique where if I don't question what is said then it becomes a premise. That is why there are folks here I will not converse with. To do so first requires refuting all of their intentionally false premises about myself. But that's what they want. They're pigs who just want to roll in the mud.
The hilarious part is that my entire experience with Sarc tells me that his posts would not be substantially different even if he wasn't completely missing the core of my argument; his misattribution of "coercion". He inevitably ignores his logical errors and deflects instead of ever presenting an honest counterargument.
The issue when engaging with shitposters is that they have no shame. They don't care if they look like fools. The anonymity of the internet is anathema to honest discourse.
Same old. Same old.
Not giving is taking. Not worshiping is oppressing. Legislation preventing government action is an expansion of government action.
I noticed you left out most important (and dangerous) part of the acronym. The gender dysphoria tranny non binary group.
Mostly because I don't give a fuck, but also to piss you off. Same reason why Reason doesn't cover stories you feel are important.
I mean are they wrong?
That all depends on who you ask and what their predispositions are. The gender dysphoria thing is relatively new, at least it's only recently been recognized as a thing. I personally am ambivalent because I see it from different points of view. Though I imagine in a couple decades it will be in the rearview mirror the way gay is today.
You give so little fucks about it you've posted over a dozen times about it.
Though I imagine in a couple decades it will be in the rearview mirror the way gay is today.
No, it will be remembered for what it is: Lysenkoism writ on a global scale.
“but also to piss you off.”
Why do so many people give me shit?
^this might be the reason^
State sanctioned sponsorship of an ideology that statistically leads to mental illness, sadness, and ruining kids lives…
A generation or two ago it led to institutionalization or imprisonment. Would you prefer we go back to the good-ol-days?
Id settle for the state just not actively pushing a harmful ideology.
And we know its harmful because the anxiety, depression, and suicide rate are astronomically high compared to the gen pop
The kids already felt that way. You're confusing cause with effect.
Assuming, contrary to common sense, that there is no element of social contagion in schools, that kids don’t feel the pressure to stand out, and be different, and seek the attention of adults eager to champion them for having the courage to “be themselves.”
In adults, sexual narcissist autogynephilia is a better explanation than gender dysphoria for most transitions. Moreover, “treating” a body dysmorphic disorder by violently altering the body and its natural development rather than through cognitive-behavioral therapy and less drastic pharmacological means that recognize it’s a fundamentally incorrect self-image, instead pretending like there’s a special, sacred self trapped inside them that needs to be emancipated, is psychiatric malpractice grounded in superstition.
If a Black child comes to you distraught by the amount of melanin in his skin, are you going to “affirm” his actual identity by helping him to feel comfortable being who he is, or will you recommend bleaching his skin so he can racially “transition” and identify socially as a White kid?
You can't pray the gay away, and you can't legislate how kids feel about their bodies.
What the fuck is this liberal drivel. Straight out of DNC talking points.
Bookmarked.
""You can’t pray the gay away, and you can’t legislate how kids feel about their bodies.""
I agree with that. And no one is trying to legislate the kids feelings. What we do disagree on is whether the school or the parents should be the ones talking to their kids about the subject. And just because some parents can't or won't doesn't mean the government and/or activists should force a curriculum onto students.
I can distinctly remember when the world ended. It was when they started teaching sex ed in schools. Oh wait. The world didn't end. I mean when they started talking about gays in school. That's when the world ended. It didn't end? In both cases they all said it would be the end of the world. Well this time it's different. This time it will be the end of the world.
Of course, this bill isn’t about legislating children’s feelings, it’s about blocking agents of the state from teaching things the parents don’t want them to teach.
Oh, and Neither one of those things was anything like the Trans activist movement and the zeitgeist behind it.
it’s about blocking agents of the state from teaching things the parents don’t want them to teach.
I can remember when it was the left saying that about Creationism. The world didn't end then either.
The left got their way and Creationism is not taught in public school. And rightly so.
If one had to come up with a list of things that are never going to have mass appeal, having oneself castrated got to to be at the top of the list. Most males feel vicarious pain talking about castration.
Yet, here we are, with Republicans devoting a huge share of their brain trust's valuable time to solving their perceived epidemic of young men lining up to have their dicks cut off.
If only. We need more crazies locked up.
Making up terminology on the spot, I see it as a "second-order" libertarian issue.
Ideally, libertarians would prefer that government not set school curricula at all. But if we assume public schools and are considering how to maximize liberty within that imperfect system, it would be preferable to have curricula decisions made at the local school board level rather than the state or Federal level. Local control at least provides some variety and competing approaches among public schools and fits (admiittedly collective) local parental preferences better.
Making up terminology on the spot...
Why stop there? You make up other shit all the fucking time.
"it would be preferable to have curricula decisions made at the local school board level rather than the state or Federal level."
Unfortunately school curriculums are set at the state and federal level, no matter how much we want to pretend otherwise. So this protest is ultimately weak tea. Saying we would rather this go to the local level is as realistic as saying we would rather this all be privatized. Neither is a realistic option, and singling out one side for doing what all sides is doing is disingenuous.
Where are parents advised by local school boards of this stuff being taught or that they will be cut out of info involving their children?
If they are not, then what legitimacy does the curricula have?
What a question. There are thousands of local school boards across the country. Can you point to one where there was a problem in the first place that justifies this heavy-handed state government approach?
All of them doing this. It's not a tiny number.
That’s a ridiculous exaggeration. I can tell you my own kids’ school districts aren’t engaging in any gender ideology pushing whatsoever.
Libertarians: Why the fuck does this need to be legislated?
Why are our government schools being subjected to rules and regs? Get your government hands off my
medicarepublic schools!The 3 political figures who are viewed most favorably by Americans are Elon Musk, Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis (Berne is next).
Musk has by far the highest favorability gap (+14). AOC's is -13, Mitch McConnell -24.
Tim Scott and Vivek are +7.
Only 40% of Dem voters say they intend to vote for Biden *in the Dem primary."
For whatever reason, the poll excluded the challenger near 20%: RFK, Jr.
But even many Dems say Biden lacks mental fitness and they don't want to vote for him.
What's so striking here isn't that the corporate media relentlessly advocates views and ideologies that majorities of Americans - often large majorities - reject.
It's that the views held by majorities are all but banned on NBC, CNN, NYT and WPost. Thus, this is not a mystery: [poll]
But even many Dems say Biden lacks mental fitness and they don’t want to vote for him.
As we saw in 2020, they don't have to.
Yes, they had to. And they did. In larger numbers than Trump voters.
Voters, Laursen, or ballots? There is a difference.
Sorry, progtards, kids belong to their parents.
https://nypost.com/2023/05/21/democrats-to-parents-everywhere-your-kids-belong-to-us-not-you/
Blue-state progs keep screaming the quiet part out loud: "Your kids don’t belong to you!"
Tommy Hoyt, a Democratic New Hampshire state legislator, is just the latest example.
A parent urged him to back a bill demanding that schools not withhold info about their kids from parents (i.e., no more secret social transitioning or woke brainwashing).
Hoyt’s remarkable response: “Do you know why children’s results tanked during COVID? Their parents were incompetent teachers. Do your children a favor, let the teachers teach, and shut up. You’re clearly no professional.”
" “Do you know why children’s results tanked during COVID? Their parents were incompetent teachers. Do your children a favor, let the teachers teach, and shut up. You’re clearly no professional.”"
Dripping with the condescension of a blue commie.
Of course, the scores tanked because the kids who's parents had to work, or single parent households (disproportionately minority, which they should care about) were getting NO school because their parents were scrambling to scrape by.
The households who disproportionately complain about the NEA, teachers union et al shutting down schools and taking drastic measures over a cold virus are also the households who disproportionately have kids who got through the pandemic with less (or no) learning loss.
Funny thing, parents who care about what/when/how their kids are being taught also happen to have kids that are doing better.
The teachers were allegedly teaching remotely.
So, clearly, the teachers failed miserably.
Plus the factors that most of these parents didn't ask to be thrust suddenly into that role, and that in some jurisdictions they had little notice as to whether their kids would be home or in school on a given day. For that matter, sometimes parents had little notice as to whether they'd be working on a given day. Everything was temporary indefinitely. It's like the way I remember elementary school was when we had substitute teachers; it was just to have warm bodies in place. But fear not; nobody would be left behind, because they were all subject to the same.
in a sane country this man would be marched off to jail immediately.
I can’t guess how a representative would have the nerve to tell his constituents to “shut up”.
Not running for re-election, and expecting an appointment.
I'm kind of amazed he didn't get punched in the face for that line.
This could be read to require school counselors and other staff to report to parents if a student of any age talks to them about mental health issues, gender issues, struggles at home, sexuality, contraception?
So? I'm the parent, you're the day care center. I get to know every single thing that is going on with my kid while she or he is there.
FREE MINDS
In Naked Feminism: Breaking the Cult of Female Modesty
It is 2023, women should be able to hang out with their wangs out.
Apparently, screwing over Netscape wasn't enough for Bill Gates.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bill-gates-blackmailed-jeffrey-epstein-over-affair-russian-bridge-player
According to the Wall Street Journal, Gates met Antonova in 2010 at a bridge competition, leading to an affair. Three years later, after Gates associate Boris Nikolic referred her to Jeffrey Epstein to help raise $500K for an online bridge business which failed to pan out, Epstein paid for her to attend coding classes.
In 2014, Antonova "stayed briefly at an apartment in New York City provided by Epstein" but claims not to have met with the guy who paid for her education.
Then in 2017, the pedophile financier allegedly blackmailed Gates over the affair - demanding in an email that the Microsoft co-founder to reimburse him for Antonova's education. Given the de minimis amount involved for both men, Gates interpreted this 2017 email as threat to expose his 2010 affair.
Muh private company.
Neeva, the would-be Google competitor, is shutting down its search engine
“Building search engines is hard,”... But Neeva did it, they said. It built a good, competitive search engine. It was actually well ahead of Google in some respects, like swapping 10 blue links for a more visual page and emphasizing human-created information.
But building the search engine was actually the easy part.
Alphabet has been pushing for greater regulation because it knows that that's what makes new competition impossible.
Seymour Hersh: "'Something Else Is Cooking' In Ukraine".
Not quite too sure what to make of it, but worthy of discussion.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/seymour-hersh-something-else-cooking-ukraine
Last Saturday the Washington Post published an exposé of classified American intelligence documents showing that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, working behind the back of the Biden White House, pushed hard earlier this year for an expanded series of missile attacks inside Russia. The documents were part of a large cache of classified materials posted online by an Air Force enlisted man now in custody. A senior official of the Biden administration, asked by the Post for comment on the newly revealed intelligence, said that Zelensky has never violated his pledge never to use American weapons to strike inside Russia. In the view of the White House, Zelensky can do no wrong.
But something else is cooking, as some in the American intelligence community know and have reported in secret, at the instigation of government officials at various levels in Poland, Hungary, Lithuania, Estonia, Czechoslovakia, and Latvia. These countries are all allies of Ukraine and declared enemies of Vladimir Putin.
This group is led by Poland, whose leadership no longer fears the Russian army because its performance in Ukraine has left the glow of its success at Stalingrad during the Second World War in tatters. It has been quietly urging Zelensky to find a way to end the war—even by resigning himself, if necessary—and to allow the process of rebuilding his nation to get under way. Zelensky is not budging, according to intercepts and other data known inside the Central Intelligence Agency, but he is beginning to lose the private support of his neighbors.
I like how China hasn't spend one red cent in Ukraine and their offer to mediate was "a welcome development" for Zelensky.
Tie that in with the [bitter] Spectator column on how Western sanctions have been a complete and total failure and you begin to realize how badly this is going as a proxy war for the US and the West in general.
The last few years made me wonder what kind of military capability we actually have. There seem to be way too many incompetent people in way too many important positions. The rot of the swamp seems to be fully entrenched in the pentagon. It seems like it would be smart to try to avoid wars while working on cleaning house, but I’m yet to know any introspective entrenched bootlickers.
> The last few years made me wonder what kind of military capability we actually have.
It's not great. There have been many (possibly 100% of them) recent Naval shipbuilding projects that have been absolute clusterfucks. The Air Force isn't doing much better, from what I understand. I don't know about the Army or Marine Corps, but I presume they are likewise beholden to the MIC and not actual operational effectiveness.
Sounds like Biden is going to give Ukraine F16s as well.
In Naked Feminism: Breaking the Cult of Female Modesty,
this is like the 4th time you guys have pushed this obscure production. why? it's yawn-inducing fem edglord claptrap fit only for a grad school thesis as a lower functioning diploma mill university.
Looking Back on the Sadism of the Covid-19 Shaming Campaign
As Matt Orfalea's new video shows, apologies are due for the media campaign against "the unvaccinated," which unveiled open cruelty as public policy strategy
"for the media campaign against “the unvaccinated,”"
The media? How about POTUS:
"This is a pandemic of the unvaxxed"...Biden
"If you get the vaccine you wont get or spread COVID"...Biden
"“If you get the vaccine you wont get or spread COVID”…Biden"
If I recall correctly, Biden was diagnosed with covid exactly a year after he said this in a speech. Very karmatic.
Ironically, the vaccine increased the likelihood of getting COVID.
I could have sworn we agreed for amnesty for this sort of thing? Just move on! This sort of thing totally won't happen again, honest.
It’s like so 2 years ago.
Gonna tell my kids that people used to just die normally before they started letting their grandmas kill themselves for tik tok clout
https://twitter.com/mypillowgorl/status/1660661675500920833?s=46&t=0E3j5st2xxnFRnT_IkYSIQ
Progressives are evil. No exceptions.
Progressivism is a death and despair cult. Plain and simple
I didn't know DeSantis was Mexican.
MSNBC Previews DeSantis 2024 By Labeling Him 'Pro-White Supremacy'
"It is unconscionable that lawmakers would attempt to sneak a 'Don't Say Gay/Transgender' requirement into a bill that was not at all crafted for this purpose and previously received bipartisan support,"
yeah because no legislators on any side EVER sneak extra shit into the bills. Ever.
Inflation reduction act on line 1
>>"we are going backward, not forward," argues Andrew Sullivan.
letting the dudes who like girlclothes and the pedos drive the boat was a bad idea.
^ this.
Chapelle's bit about the G's, L's, B's and T's in the car, with the other 3 being skeptical of the T's that they are ruining the car ride for everyone, and not really one of the others...
Man was he spot on. I think that was like 5 years ago? He saw it coming
exactly.
>>... or any number of things that some students may have good reason to want to keep from their parents.
letting communist sociopaths "guide" children to keep things from their parents was a bad idea.
I was always taught that adults that trained kids to keep secrets from their parents were perverted deviants who just wanted sex from the kids.
yep.
That’s cause they are…
Lo and behold...
possibly ban student LGBTQ clubs as well.
1. now do the "hitler was right club". Can they meet on campus and use campus resources for their activities? if not, why not?
2, What a disingenuous concern. Any kids can meet up for any reason and call it a club anytime they want. the "campus clubs" concern is utter horseshit.
"now do the “hitler was right club”"
How about a school funded Christian meet up, a "there are only 2 genders" club, a white students club?
the “hitler was right club”.
Don't we just call those the Campus Democrats?
Just do a Trump 2024 club and watch the teachers melt down.
^ haha this. no doubt. I remember during 2020 some kids were sent home for wearing MAGA because it made other students "feel unsafe".
The queer activists of today have little in common with gay and lesbian activists of yore and "we are going backward, not forward," argues Andrew Sullivan.
And by "of yore" he means just a few years ago...
Posting this again because this thread seems slightly relevant.
Here's a conference for k-12 educators in Colorado.
These are the conference titles of stuff they want to pass on to your children:
Sarc is for this apparently. Any effort to restrict political indoctrination is bad.
OK, time to tally up who seems to be for this shit.
Shrike, Sarc, Mike Laursen, Tony, and Jeffy. Anyone I'm missing (other than Reason editors/writers)?
What in the world have I ever said that would lead you to believe.... oh yeah, duh. I keep forgetting that you consider what is said about someone to be more truthful than anything the person actually says themselves. My apologies. I almost mistook you for a human being instead of a tribal troll.
When you lean so hard into "the indoctrination is not occurring" and advocate against legislation to curtail the practice, your position is not substantially different then those that openly advocate for the indoctrination.
I mean you're defending against any response to these issues in this very thread. Saying the GOP is bad for being against indoctrination.
This is more of your "I'm not a cowboys fan I just root against any team they play" defense.
Since you have (foolishly) Jesse on mute:
JesseAz 3 hours ago
Sarc is for this apparently. Any effort to restrict political indoctrination is bad.
You miss out on the conversation when you mute people like Mike "Muted" Laursen.
It takes some deliberate stupidity to equate “Hey I’m not so sure we need more laws” with “I want political indoctrination.” Especially since the latter is universally accepted to mean “laws defining what children are taught.”
What we’ve got is him equating the libertarian position of “is government and more laws really the solution” with “we want laws deciding what children are taught.”
The depths of his dishonesty and mendacity are endless. That’s why I have the fucker on mute. It takes paragraphs to refute the lies he manages to put into one single line of text.
The fact that you admire the guy...
So what response is there to that statement of his other than "Fuck you"?
If he said that in person he could reasonably expect a punch in the nose, and the cops he no doubt would call would laugh and tell him he deserved it.
He is fully aware of this, which is why he says what he says.
And you look up to him as a brilliant debater? He's nothing but a master baiter.
All anyone has to do is scroll up to see you equating being against indoctrination as being just as bad as pushing indoctrination. It is in this very thread dumdum.
How and why we use diverse children’s books to decolonize our classroom libraries,
If you use the word "decolonize" with a straight face I immediately tune you out. You are a moron with nothing of value to say.
That's like tuning out a rattlesnake's shake.
Tuning them out isn't sufficient; you need to make the school district a hostile work environment for people like this.
Reason:
Texas Bill Would Ban School Instruction, Guidance, or Activities Related to Sexual Orientation, Gender Identity
Libertarian:
Texas Bill Clarifies that Parents or their designee, shall provide Instruction, Guidance,...related to.......
ENB has presented a bad take. This legislation is a net positive to freedom, it is a limit on the state.
The idea that public schools have the best interest of the children as their primary goal is a lie that every libertarian should see right through. Counselors and administrators do not work for the students. They are agents of the state. They serve the interests of the children only to the extent that it overlaps with the interests of the state, the unions, and the individual's own activism.
Additionally, they are not qualified to diagnose mental illness, but they do have qualified immunity if, by their advice or actions, children come to harm. This is a recipe for disaster and actual libertarians should be jumping up and down screaming about how inappropriate it is.
Meanwhile, parents really do have personal interest in the success of their children. Implying that any state bureaucracy is going to better serve the interests of the child than their family when all of the information about a child's situation is known is fallacious. It is an appeal to authority that is highly contradicted when examined through the lens of history.
What's there to teach? It's all indoctrination. There's no legitimate curriculum on these subjects that K-12 ought to learn. Students can discuss whatever on their own time, but the schools, who work for the public, can no longer shove a bunch of trans and gay propaganda into the heads of impressionable youngsters. That the left is so upset is simply because that's how they turn kids into these these purple haired weirdos who hates themselves, hate each other, and hate the country. That they're so afraid parents will find out just goes to show that they KNOW what they're doing is fucked up.
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Through grade 4 they should stick with reading, writing, basic math, basic science, music. 5th-8th grade they can introduce languages, history, government, and basic skills (cooking, drawing, wood & metal shop, etc.), computers and biology. There should be a split in high school between a skill track that works to continually improve writing, math, science, government and history while working up to advanced trade skills (including computers) and a college prep track which would include advanced writing, math, science, history, and philosophy.
No teaching about sex, other than how it works (biology), politics, or any grievance studies.
No teaching about sex, other than how it works (biology), politics, or any grievance studies.
why even that much. I remember the "sex ed" bullshit courses they gave us in the 70s and 80s. Absolutely worthless anyway. There is no compelling need for the public schools to teach kids about sex and puberty and now days, gay shit and trans shit . none.
To be fair, everything else they teach is basically worhtless too. You can learn more from youtube in a week than a whole semester in a public school
"No teaching about sex, other than how it works (biology), politics, or any grievance studies."
Ya, sex should be a topic brought up in the context of what it is and consequences.
"This is a penis, this is a vagina, when you combine them, you create a zygote, yadda yadda yadda (explain the yadda) a baby is created and girl is pregnant. This is a significant, life changing consequence. Here are methods of protection if you engage in sex"
Somewhere around (a little before) the early side of when kids are statistically likely to start fucking, wherever that is. 5th or 6th grade probably a decent time.
Everything else absolutely should be between the kid and parents to decide.
Adding anything about kinks, anal, oral, and the various poly/gay/lesbian/bi/asexual shit has no place in school.
Even moreso, introducing mental disorders to children (gender dysphoria) in the form of preemptively telling them they might be another gender, has no place anywhere. Its make believe fairy tale pseudoscience, and has no place in any discussion with children or teens. Only appropriate for a psychology course discussing mental pathology.
Far better to have curricula mention chromosomes. This opens the door to the 30 pp. of calculus and diff. eqs. included in every book on population biology. Then instead of marching for anarco-pederasty, gays could get degrees in electrical engineering and the wherewithal to sic cops and lawyers on anyone who pesters them.
"Y'All means All"
LOL. WTF is wrong with these people?
Anyone that uses "ya'll" and "folks" in text can be safely ignored.
In Grand Goblin Greg's Texas, that' s who writes and enforces the laws.
“ya’ll”
LOL. WTF is wrong with these people?
Massachusetts is considering a bill to decriminalize prostitution.
Good news for all the whores in MA politics.
That generalization definitely embraces both factions of the Nixon-subsidized Looter Kleptocracy. So the prime mover has to be fear of Libertarian spoiler votes enabling traders to unseat looters by voting against The Kleptocracy. No looter politician will point out that the LP has managed to replace the entire slate of communist and Wallace Nazi "third" parties as the Bi-machine absorbed their members. Now it's looters versus choosers.
The queer activists of today have little in common with gay and lesbian activists of yore and "we are going backward, not forward," argues Andrew Sullivan.
Dave Rubin was saying similar things this morning. The LGBs need to dissociate from the Ts.
The Gs are beginning to wake up to it. I have never known a gay man that didn't revel in his masculinity. If the current Lysenkoism of "gender affirming health care" continues, they stand to lose more than anyone else. Literally.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/05/14/the-new-homophobia/
Welcome the new religions, same as the old religions.
I've been saying that for a while. Tranny logic, taken to its logical extreme, means gay people do not exist.
I would rephrase that as: Tranny logic, taken to its inevitable conclusion, means gay people do not exist.
Tat's Sinfest Webcomics have driven that point home for years now. The cartoonist makes equal fun of peepee-whacker nut jobs in net stockings and rednecks with greene teeth the way Libertarian publications used to do before the anarco-pederast planks and "principles" revision.
Bullshit. 30 yrs. ago more than half the country said, "Where's this gonna end? People marrying their pets? You're effectively declaring people enemies of humanity because they passively observe a Judeo-Christian ethos." and got an "Oh, you!"[hand flap]"Don't be silly!" in reply.
Andrew Sullivan's quote is how you distance yourself from the COVID pandemic you contributed to without asking for amnesty. You think GLAAD or whomever is going to suddenly support parental rights in education? Fuck no.
When it was convenient for homosexuality to be a clinically-undetectable biological characteristic and not a behavioral choice is was a clinically-undetectable biological characteristic. When it was convenient for homosexuality to be a behavioral choice rather than an clinically-undetectable biological characteristic, it was a behavioral choice. The trans people have just wholly embraced the fundamental ideology and are actually sacrificing children rather than practicing wicca together in the woods to piss off their parents.
When it was convenient for homosexuality to be a clinically-undetectable biological characteristic and not a behavioral choice is was a clinically-undetectable biological characteristic. When it was convenient for homosexuality to be a behavioral choice rather than an clinically-undetectable biological characteristic, it was a behavioral choice.
There is significant evidence that same-sex attraction is the result of a birth defect caused by an imbalance of hormones during fetal development. Just as hormones trigger the production of ovaries and testes, hormones also stimulate the brain to produce the notable sex characteristics.
It is also true that homosexuality can be a lifestyle choice. In the past, entire cultures have embraced it, although for Spartan youth it was more in their military training than a choice.
This dichotomy has been abused has been used by both sides of arguments about the morality of homosexuality. The problem is that it doesn't even apply to transexual issues. But it worked the first time, and Progressives are just not a very creative lot. They love to conflate things.
You've got everything in a pretty tight "wet roads cause rain" configuration both logically and chronologically. The crux is the moral relativism. It's a nihilist top hat. Place the imperative for sex, especially just for pleasure, in front of moral imperatives and you can justify just about anything up to and including the forcible transitioning of minors.
The gay rights movement didn't invoke biological imperative out of some gestational science and, even if they did, it just kicks the can down the road. They did it to in an overt and backhanded effort to invoke race. To the point about can-kicking, even if there were a race of violent humans suffering, causally, from mental defects and/or gestational hormone imbalances, there is a moral imperative to fix the defects and we wouldn't be obligated to fix the defects because of the race, we would be obligated to fix it because of the violence.
This relativism permeates your thinking to the point where you completely discount Xenophon, who produced the only written record of the agoge and who specifically documents the Spartan Lawgiver Lycurgus as forbidding homosexuality therein, (as well as Plato, Aristotle, and a vast swath of empirical and/or circumstantial evidence) to say Sparta (or even Greece) *embraced* homosexuality. To say that Spartans or even most Greeks *embraced* homosexuality is akin to saying that, between the death of Christ and The Council of Nicaea, early Christians embraced a form of cannibalism. In doing that, you aren't beholden to any moral imperative to presume innocence or tell an impartial truth according to best-known facts, you're just pulling shit out of your nihilist top hat.
who produced the only written record of the agoge
First hand record that is.
To say X is like saying Y. That is always false. And in your case if you reverse it you see it readily
early Christians embraced a form of cannibalism is like saying that most Greeks *embraced* homosexuality.
Does that sound like a first-class mind? You even put one of the elements of your comparison in quotes. There is nothing to examine in what you say.
We know that the best Greeks despised homosexuality and it must be because it existed enough to deserve scorn
Socrates to Callicles, remember ??? And what about the ultimate consideration in all this, the life of homosexuals? Is this not terrible, shameful and wretched? Or will you dare to say that these fellows are happy provided they have unlimited access to what they want?
Cal: Are you not ashamed at leading our discussion onto topics of this kind, Socrates?
Soc: Am I the one who led us there, my noble friend? Or was it the person who said, in such absolute terms, that those who enjoy pleasure, regardless of how they enjoy it, are happy, and who did not distinguish between good pleasures and bad ones?
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Obergefell debate went over this
Petitioners conceding that they are not aware of any society that permitted same-sex marriage before 2001
Amicus Curiae 11–12 esplained that several famous ancient Greeks wrote approvingly of the traditional definition of marriage, though same-sex sexual relations were common in Greece at the time.
Dave Rubin was saying similar things this morning. The LGBs need to dissociate from the Ts.
They have.
"Kristin Braun, a priest and parent of two Texas high school students."
Like a Japanese cowboy... something ain't right.
ENB joining the GOP in package-dealing anti-mutilation laws with gay-bashing legislation repeats a 1980s error. Anarchist infiltration of the LP made it a target of National Socialism even before the Reagan campaign. Planks endorsed child prostitution and molesting while protection of women from reproductive slavers was deleted. Half the voters decided LP meant Leninist Pederasts and there went our spoiler vote clout. The Dems is where advocates of child mutilation belong. Let their suicidal planks bring voters to state LPs.
A priest of two children? WTH? Did the Catholic Church lose its mind?
As for schools..teach sex ed..i.e. reproduction and contraception in health class. All this crap about what is a mental illness "transgenderism" should not be in promoted in schools. Skittle teachers need to be fired.
Since Pope Benedict created The Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham in 2011 Anglicans have been allowed to enter into full communion with the Catholic Church while retaining much of their traditions and heritage. This includes MARRIED PRIESTS.
When RFK Jr eventually is polling higher than Biden's job approval, is that the point where they have to acknowledge he is real?
Because he is getting damn close.
I figure the DNC will try to do to RFK, Jr. what they did to Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 2020. Is there a more ironically named group than the Democratic National Committee? They use the name "Democratic" yet are anything but.
as always with the DNC, they dont want an election, they want a coronation.
Or what they did to JFK, Sr.
Sarc: my kid is already fucked up, why should yours be safe from being fucked up?
I don't see how that is any more or less true for the Republican Party.
If that were true for the Republican Party, Trump would never have made it to the party convention in 2016.
Contrast Trump taking on 15 R's spanning the establishment / neocon / "freedom caucus" groups as a candidate widely made fun of leading into the debates and primaries, then gaining momentum, popularity, and eventually overcoming his competition, with...
A DNC primary where the anointed, pre-selected, unpopular, establishment candidate was handed the win over a more popular (albeit, terrible) candidate with significant grass roots support because he drifts a little too far off the plantation...using a combination of super delegates and selective media coverage, because "IT WAS HER TURN!"
Same with the speaker/leader battles in the house. McCarthy fought for it tooth and nail, having to make various groups happy, with multiple candidates trying to please everyone, in a messy process. Contrasted with the Dems, where Pelosi clung to power with her old decrepit hand until she decided to pass the septer down to the person patiently waiting in line. You know, just like Washington would have done.
The democrats are at the point where they are for democracy in name only. Similar to how the anti-fascists (coincidentally in their party, go figure) go around burning, looting, and intimidating anyone who dares stand in their way. Doublespeak and gaslighting in all things.
It’s tough to decide if you are more stupid than dishonest, or the alternative
Republicans have superdelegates?
For a fair comparison, you have to look at the 2020 election, when Trump was the incumbent President.
Anyway, by “coronation” I thought you were referring more to the sycophantic adulation Blue Team partisans have toward their President. I see exactly the same thing in Red Team.
Apparently, by “coronation” you were talking more about lack of primary election competition. Yeah, sure, more competition would be nice.
"Anti-fascist" was always a bullshit snowjob. The people who came up with the term were the same ones who named "The Antifascist Protection Rampart". Known far more commonly as "The Berlin Wall".
"Fascism" in that context means "anything that isn't Stalinist communism".
Commies aren't known for their truth in advertising.
"you have to look at the you have to look at the 2020 election, when Trump was the incumbent President. Trump was the incumbent President."
You mean the 2020 election, when Republicans still held a primary, versus the Democrats today who aren't?
You're such an obvious tout, Mike.
No, you need to look at 2016 for a fair comparison. Incumbent presidents typically get the benefit of the doubt and the position being the incumbent when it comes to nomination. Tell me, do you know nothing of how this process works, or are you just being disingenuous as usual?
It can be both.
Pretty sure his stupidity is such that he believes his blatant lies.
Hi R Mac. Why not? I have the right to ban speech on my private property.
Lady G isn't politically that stupid. I can only believe it was a deliberate act of sabotage by a shapeshifting neocon who couldn't care less about social issues such as abortion, but knows how to talk and play conservative. It's really hard to keep his attention unless you propose to bomb another foreign country.
In 2020, the Lincoln Project released a pro-Biden campaign video using nothing but Lindsey Graham clips praising the man. Back in 2016, he went from warning that Trump would destroy the GOP to becoming his private lapdog and public pitbull. He's a political chameleon par excellence.
On the subject of South Carolina politicians, Nikki Haley and Tim Scott are both typical conservative Republicans, but they're well liked, decent people, and they typify SC's more politically charitable, less polarized character even as a solid red state. Lindsey Graham, on the other hand, is a pathetic weasel who will say or do anything to maintain his position in the Senate.
“Maybe don’t shit all over multiple threads insulting other’s education?”
The discussion is education and the education provided in the states that push these unnecessary laws dominate the worst in America.
I’m not insulting anyone’s personal education. You largely get out of school what you put into it.
I’m pointing out that states that claim to know what a “good education” is clearly don’t, since they consistently underperform.
Proponents of these anti-gay and anti-trans laws claim that schools should “stick to the basics” since public education is supposedly so awful. Yet the schools and states that allow these topics vastly outperform the schools and states that ban them.
Maybe this is a way for the states whose education systems are failing to distract parents? “What, you want to know why students from Mississippi are woefully ignorant compared to the rest of the country? Uh … we need to keep this woke nonsense from destroying our children! Don’t you agree?”.
Here’s a thought: don’t take advice from the kids (states) in the bottom 20% of the class.
No, I test that way and every time life checked on it, I proved it. I’ve been retired since 45 and volunteering for a Lab rescue because that’s what I want to do.
I can work for nothing at a job that gives me satisfaction and fulfillment because I made smart choices and worked my ass off. How about you?