The Clock Is Ticking: U.S. Could Default on Debt Payments by June 1
It's time for President Joe Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy to strike a deal that will avoid a default and cut spending.

The clock is ticking down towards the first debt default in American history, which could occur as soon as June 1 if Congress and President Joe Biden fail to reach an agreement to raise or suspend the debt limit.
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen wrote Monday in a letter to congressional leaders that her department "will be unable to continue to satisfy all of the government's obligations by early June, and potentially as early as June 1." It is impossible to know exactly when the Treasury will run out of authorized borrowing necessary to pay the federal government's bills, Yellen wrote, but that horizon is becoming more obvious as the days tick past. The Treasury has been operating under so-called "extraordinary measures"—effectively rooting around in the government's metaphorical couch cushions to turn up extra cash and borrowing authority in order to keep paying the bills—since January when it bumped up against a preliminary debt limit.
That was supposed to give President Joe Biden and congressional leaders a chance to negotiate an increase to the debt limit—also known as the debt ceiling, which is the maximum amount of money the Treasury is allowed to borrow to pay for budgeted spending. But Biden has squandered that extra time by refusing to negotiate with House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R–Calif.). Last week, the Republican-controlled House passed a bill to raise the debt ceiling, cut federal spending back to 2022 levels, and cap future spending increases.
Yellen's letter might have helped thaw negotiations. On Monday evening, the White House announced that Biden had invited House and Senate leaders to the White House for a debt limit meeting on May 9.
Meanwhile, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) updated its own projections on Monday for when the government will hit the debt limit. There is "a significantly greater risk that the Treasury will run out of funds in early June," CBO director Phillip L. Swagel said in a statement, due to lower-than-expected tax receipts during April. Previously, the CBO had expected the Treasury's extraordinary measures to be exhausted sometime between July and September.
"If the debt limit is not raised or suspended before the extraordinary measures are exhausted, the government will ultimately be unable to pay its obligations fully," Swagel said. "As a result, the government will have to delay making payments for some activities, default on its debt obligations, or both."
Contrary to how it might sound, raising the debt ceiling does not actually cause the federal government to incur higher levels of debt. Instead, it merely authorizes the Treasury Department to borrow the funds necessary to cover spending that's already been approved by Congress and the president. You can think of the debt ceiling as the limit on a credit card—a credit card that in this case has been maxed out. If you want to keep using that credit card, you'll need a higher limit. But refusing to raise the limit doesn't absolve you of the obligation to pay what's already been borrowed. It will only cause other problems when you try to purchase more stuff with the same card.
Obviously, the real problem in that scenario is that the person using the credit card is spending too much money. Raising or refusing to raise the limit won't fix that—only a better, smaller budget will get things under control. That's why debt limit fights have historically turned into battles over the trajectory of federal spending. All of the major deficit-reduction plans approved by Congress since 1985 have been attached to bills raising the debt ceiling.
It is therefore disingenuous for Democrats, including Biden, to argue that the debt ceiling must be lifted without other conditions. The fight over how to finance the federal government's addiction to borrowing is obviously tied up with the root cause of all that borrowing: overspending, year after year after year.
The federal government must avoid default at all costs, but raising the debt ceiling without a serious attempt at reducing future budget deficits will only accelerate the next iteration of this same crisis. The terms of the debate have been clear for quite a while. Now, the deadline is coming into focus, too.
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Reason has now incorrectly stated a default is at risk if debt ceiling isn't raised a half dozen times.
Tax revenue is greater than payments on the debt.
Stop pushing leftist gaslighting. Reason used to support shut downs, or more accurately shutting down non essential bullshit.
I'm glad you made this point, Reason echoing this left-wing talking point is extremely annoying.
In fact, tax revenue minus payments on the debt equals, approximately, 2018 spending levels. Sure, they make a point that it would take a substantial cut to bring the balance into budget, but that’s only because the last few years have seen substantial spending increases.
Which the left are so determined to hold onto, that they’d rather unconstitutionally default on the debt than simply spend less.
Reason echoes a lot of leftist talking points.
The problem with shutdowns is, all the government's workers basically get a paid vacation until the shutdown ends, except they only get paid at the end of their vacation.
So, government spending is not lowered, AND we don't get the services we're paying for.
The only advantage is, people might realise that these services are non-essential, and some of them are actually harmful.
Which is a major advantage, come to think of it.
People realizing those services are non-essential only helps if it leads to convincing the pols in Congress to shut them down permanently. Speaking of Congress, how non-productive does that body have to be before more people realize that they're basically non-essential?
Is there any reason to think anymore that there's any meaningful plan to reduce deficits which doesn't start with replacing almost all of the people who are making the spending decisions? Maybe cut Congressional sessions to 8 weeks per "Congress", or 8 weeks per year if necessary and cut out the 80-90% of symbolic/fluff makework nonsense they're spending time on. Compensation to be reduced from salary to a $30-40k stipend to cover the costs of travel and establishing a temporary living space in D.C.; make them spend the bulk of their time in the states/districts they pretend to "represent" and force them to find some kind of productive employment during that time.
Would have to be w/o pay. Are you sure that shutting down continues pay? I'm not.
Yep. They always jump immediately to "defaulting on the debt" and ignore the fact that tax revenues way more than adequately allow us to cover the debt costs, but may not cover the new spending government wants to embark on, including payroll for government employees. Not raising the debt ceiling may cause a government shutdown, but should not touch "defaulting on our debt". Maybe why the more careful politicians use the words "default on our obligations" which would tend to include already-encumbered expenses.
Where "already-encumbered expenses" usually means, "I've already scheduled my vacation in Hawaii, I'm now legally obligated to take it!", when you could just cancel out instead.
They pretend that spending that hasn't happened yet is higher in priority than debt payments, because they are absolutely determined that no spending cuts happen.
That depends on how you define "default". If a "default" is a failure or refusal to pay the debts incurred by the U.S., this this is not a default. If a "default" is a failure to pay out funds that the government said (in law) it would pay it, then it is. However, I don't think instances of the government not paying money to someone that it said it would is anything new.
This is like a guy borrowing money from the bank, then promising his family to pay for a short vacation. He finds he can't afford to both make the payment to the bank and pay for the vacation. Is this a "default" since he could not make good on his promise? The government solution is to print or borrow more money, which makes future payments to the lenders larger. At some point, the payments become too big and you really do have to default, but I guess the idea is that we can just kick this can down the road and let future generations take the hit.
How much attenetion is the news media paying on this issue?
Don't say that. That's giving Reason credit. You're supposed to bitch and moan and whine and complain about some obscure story they didn't talk about, explain that they're leftists for not covering the story, and then personally attack the author. Don't you know anything?
Poor sarc.
Poor Sarcasmic.
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He's had a bad morning.
You'd think that you would have at least seen some CNN/ MSNBC mouth breathers doing their usual whining and whinging about "RethugliKKKan AwEsTeRiTy!!!1111!!!!!!1!!!!" but instead I haven't seen/ heard much so far. Weird.
"It's time for President Joe Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy to strike a deal that will avoid a default and cut spending."
It may have escaped your notice, Eric, but House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has done his part. You need to whine to Chuckles and 'He Who Can Neither Walk Nor Talk'.
Time to get a new clock that only works with a fair tax and a balanced budget amendment without gimmicks. We're spending 100's of billions on illegals and a trillion dollars in welfare and we are worried about finding money to pay our debts? Most folks would do what Clinton and the '94 Congress did and cut capital gains taxes and cut spending to around 18% of GDP as a first step.
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"The clock is ticking down towards the first debt default in American history..."
Clearly Boehm wasn't hired for his knowledge of history. It wouldn't even be the first debt default in my lifetime.
Correct.
See https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/575722-the-us-has-never-defaulted-on-its-debt-except-the-four-times-it-did/
Except those four examples don’t even involve the actual debt ceiling, nor the nature of the payments and obligations involved. Pollock’s comparing apples to oranges–they’re technically both fruit, but different kinds.
What actually causes default on the national debt is not making the payment on our actual debt obligations–the interest plus whatever other debt payments are actually due. The fear-mongering by the left and their press shills relies on an obfuscation of that fact to make it seem like we’ll default if the entire government isn’t funded. And it’s telling that Biden’s team refuses to even talk to McCarthy about a simple return to 2022 spending.
Clearly Boehm wasn’t hired for his knowledge of history.
TeenReason, Barely Legal edition knows history is racist and transphobic.
He wasn’t even hired for his knowledge of CURRENT EVENTS.
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But Biden has squandered that extra time by refusing to negotiate with House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy
Somebody hasn't gotten the memo yet. This is all Trump's fault. Or at least his Mega MAGA followers. Or Republicans. But never Joe's fault.
Congress already voted on the budgets that led to the increase in debt requiring the limit to be raised. Hence it is at best hypocritical now to use the limit as a bargaining chip for future budgets.
We know that around current tax levels, tax cuts do not pay for themselves. The deficit goes up. Consequently any purported solution which relies on tax cuts to help fix the debt problem is not based on reality, and its proponents should be duly mocked and ridiculed for ignoramuses and bounders.
The US clearly needs a major overhaul of the tax system and its expenditures. Unfortunately, the equivalent of regulatory capture has grabbed our tax system – the complexity is intentional for that way lie loopholes (carried interest, for example, or other schemes involving the granting of equity or warrants).
As far as expenditures are concerned, obviously defence – a significant proportion of which goes to prop up the defence industry and is hence a subsidy of that industry, and another significant proportion goes to maintaining far too many foreign bases; non-contracted “welfare” – that is, outgoings not connected to prior revenues, unlike social security (which is separate from the budget and warrants separate consideration), or unemployment insurance;. etc, etc.
I would also favour a demarcation between current and capital expenditure. If homeowner A pays $20,000 for a luxury holiday, and homeowner B pays $20,000 to add a value-increasing extension to his house, the two expenditures are not the same, but in Federal budget terms they would appear to be.
"We know that around current tax levels, tax cuts do not pay for themselves. The deficit goes up. Consequently any purported solution which relies on tax cuts to help fix the debt problem is not based on reality, and its proponents should be duly mocked and ridiculed for ignoramuses and bounders."
Incoming revenue is more than sufficient to pay for everything. NOTHING will cover the expenditures. There is no tax level sufficient to do so.
"As far as expenditures are concerned, obviously defence – a significant proportion of which goes to prop up the defence industry and is hence a subsidy of that industry, and another significant proportion goes to maintaining far too many foreign bases; non-contracted “welfare” – that is, outgoings not connected to prior revenues, unlike social security (which is separate from the budget and warrants separate consideration), or unemployment insurance;. etc, etc."
Social Security monies have been put into the federal budget for YEARS, replaced with IOU's. I got no problem cutting defense. Let's also eliminate DHS, Dept of Education, the FBI, etc. Mainly waste there. Let's rescind the ridiculous amount of money given to the IRS.
"I would also favour a demarcation between current and capital expenditure. If homeowner A pays $20,000 for a luxury holiday, and homeowner B pays $20,000 to add a value-increasing extension to his house, the two expenditures are not the same, but in Federal budget terms they would appear to be."
Why, precisely, would they be different? Neither are necessary. Adding value to your house is no more a necessity than going on a vacation.
The homeowner example I used to demonstrate that the economic effect is different. After the vacation and the extension's completion, on a full accounting, A is out $20,000 while B isn't.
Necessity is not a useful requirement. Net increase in wealth or asset value is.
In a true accounting the home improvement guy (B) is still out the $20K too. In fact, if the town comes sniffing around, he is likely to get an increase in his house taxes the following year. He still doesn’t have the $20K and is spending more now each year on taxes. He only realizes the new value if he sells the house. B may or may not recoup the $20K plus the taxes he has accumulated year to year, depending on the market, the valuation, the adjustment for inflation, the number of years etc. Perhaps the non-improved parts of the house will decline in value and not keep up with the valuation. You are selling potential for realized gain.
Apples to Pears, Gov'na.
Ir's a fucking analogy - it doesn't have to be technically perfect to make the point. Fact is, fuckwit, capital expenditure and current expenditure should be viewed separately, and evidently you think they shouldn't be else you would have challenged my point not picked at the analogy.
You called it a full accounting, asshole. Your analogy sucked.
Stay Calm and Carry on.
A full accounting of the homeowners' financial position - including capital and fixed assets. The analogy makes a point in a way that only an OCD cretin could object to
But you still can't address the substantive point, fuckwit.
NOTHING will cover the expenditures. There is no tax level sufficient to do so.
Maybe a 100% flat tax would do it...
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"Maybe a 100% flat tax would do it…" Doubtful. Givermint would still spend more than it takes in and resort to borrowing from the Fed. Or just print it up itself as the Magic Money Theorists would have it do.
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Cash accounting is the major source of financial problems because it blinds us to what we are obligating ourselves to pay. Accrual accounting is the only honest form
The IRS’s extra funding is probably going to be profitable, because they will hold the poor accountable for not paying enough tax.
The rest of what you said I agree with.
Not a pro-spending, pro government, democrat guys.
Government can never be reduced says shrike.
Defense takes up a lot of money, but it's minor compared to Medicare and Medicaid. Those two services spent over $2 trillion last year. DoD was $727 billion, and doesn't move that much even if you throw in the Department of Energy's nuclear caretaking duties.
At the height of GWOT, DoD spending was $500 billion, or $761 billion inflation-adjusted. Medicare and Medicaid Services was $742 billion, or $1.1 trillion inflation-adjusted. The latter is a much greater issue than the former if you're really wanting to fix spending.
DoD budget is nowhere near what we spend on defense. All war expenditures go through a category called Overseas Contingency Operations – not through a Pentagon budget. Currently that’s about $45 billion a year but $8 trillion has gone through that account since 9/11. None paid by taxes. All by debt. Spending on veterans has gone from $70 billion per year to $200 billion per year. There are pure slush funds too
I'm open to cutting defense spending by reducing defense obligations and telling our allies that they either contribute properly to NATO, or else we're pulling resources out of defending their countries. Reduce our overseas obligations, stop funding the proxy war in Ukraine, pull our troops out of Syria.
At the end of the day, I still consider some level of defense spending to be a legitimate purpose of the government. I have never considered Social Security or Medicare a legitimate government expenditure, it's simple wealth redistribution.
We should quit with the whole burden sharing argument with NATO. The reason it never goes anywhere is because our side of the argument is - we will tell you what to spend and on what and you will help pay that.
Burden shifting is the honest approach. This is what we will do for/with NATO. Everything else re the defense of Europe is everyone else's responsibility.
We aren't telling them anything. It's in the fucking treaty they signed and are not living up to. Fuck you're an idiot. The treaty clearly states what they have to spend, and only a couple are doing it. The US, some of the former Eastern Bloc countries but almost none of the Western European countries. Hell, Germany hasn't funded half of what they were supposed to until just this year. Face it, NATO is the US military, some French and Eastern Europeans and a couple brigades worth of the rest.
Stop pulling shit out your ass. The 2% is not in the freaking treaty. It was an informal declaration from 2006. Made more explicit at the 2014 Wales Summit. And is not being “violated” even now because it talks about moving towards 2% not hitting that number.
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Defense is still peanuts compared to entitlements. When you need to cut your budget do you start with the little shit? If you do then you're foolishly helping your feelings but not your wallet. You start with the big shit, whatever that may be. In the case of the federal government it's entitlements. They're not even in the Constitution, unlike a military. A big dent in entitlements would save more than completely eliminating the military. It's math. *shrug*
Defense is not little shit. If we don't have the balls to cut defense (all spent to preserve an overseas empire), then we sure as fuck aren't even gonna talk seriously about entitlements.
But some of us view defense as a legitimate expenditure while entitlements are not a legitimate expenditure. There's some fat to cut on defense expenditures but much, much more in entitlements which are 100% fat.
Failure to cut a single penny from SS/Medicare – which is 100% guaranteed if that proposal is partisan (and THAT sort of partisan cramdown approach is what you are advocating) – results in both ZERO spending reductions NOW and ZERO credibility for future cuts. Which of course is the entire point of advocating proven futility. Hey keep your eye on the yuge pointless prize right. Nothing needs to happen. We just need to pose.
Defense spending is difficult enough but at least we have US-based examples of how that used to happen. Ignore the obvious – WW2. We had FIVE rounds of base closures in the late 80’s and early 90’s with afaik hundreds of bases closed. We could very easily have had an adult discussion then about our foreign policy – our alliances/obligations – our strategy. We didn’t but we could have.
There is absolutely zero strategy for even having that discussion about SS/Medicare. The last time there was even a semi-public discussion was 1983 and the Greenspan Commission. IOW – no one under retirement age even REMEMBERS that. Yet – the partisan virtue signallers always yap about SS/Medicare with not ONE SINGLE IDEA about how that discussion is supposed to happen.
I'm just talking about numbers. Math.
The American public is clueless and does not care about the empire. Fuck, good luck even finding anybody to agree that we are one. They are mostly too braindead to realize that employing an empire overseas means cracking down on freedoms here in order to sustain it. So we play the merchants of death, biggest arms dealer in the history of the planet with our weapons ending up literally everywhere including the enemies hands. It's a stupid policy and we have lost all credibility. Meanwhile, BRICS grows and it's starting to smell like the 20th century aughts up in here.
The irony is that all the spending isn't even going into manning, despite years of people telling Congress and various administrations that they were burning their people out by "doing more with less." Systems are so fucking complex now that defense spends billions on acquisitions that end up taking years, if not decades, to bring online, and they end up having their own unique technical issues that takes far longer and far more money to fix than even the massive budgets in the 80s.
"When you need to cut your budget do you start with the little shit?"
You start with the easy shit (or what should be easy). If even that can't be cut, we're screwed. The argument is usually "but that's a very small part of the budget", which only idiots will buy since it all adds up.
Currently that’s about $45 billion a year but $8 trillion has gone through that account since 9/11. None paid by taxes. All by debt.
I'm not disputing that, but it's still peanuts compared to Medicare and Medicaid. Just going back to 2008 levels of spending there would give us a surplus.
Spending on veterans has gone from $70 billion per year to $200 billion per year. There are pure slush funds too
VA's even worse than this--$275 billion a year now. But even if you include all the VA, all the DoD, the DoE nuke stuff, and OCO, that's still half of what we spend on Medicare and Medicaid. Half.
We're not going to get anywhere until we start cutting shit there, and it's going to get worse because not only does the nation have an obesity epidemic, you have brain-dead identity marxists arguing that promoting an active lifestyle and healthy diet is oppressive, and mass media promoting landwhales like Lizzo as role models.
You are not going to cut spending on Medicare if that is the first thing you want to focus on. Period. That is purely stuck on stupid and you people know that. Which is the entire purpose of focusing on it. Ooh – lets pretend we are really responsible. Let’s elect absolutely nobody who will advocate anything serious. Let's have ZERO ideas on how we will get from here to there. Let’s make totally sure that nothing else gets cut. So we can break our fucking arms patting ourselves on the back for how virtuous we are. Fuck you all.
I don't know why you're getting all up in your feelings about this. DoD spends all this fucking money but can't even provide the manning needed to meet everything that our leaders are demanding of it. It's in a full-blown recruiting crisis right now for a multitude of reasons.
And just so you're aware, I'm perfectly fine if this country literally collapses under the weight of its millions of fatties who can't stop shoveling crap down their yobs, especially if they're claiming anyone calling them a fatass is being oppressive. That's kind of death a hyper-decadent, self-indulgent civilization really deserves.
Hell, maybe we'll get really lucky and Denver will be the first metro area to make drug overdosing tourism a state industry.
You can see the comments here and it's so freaking typical from libertarians. Let's not actually focus on what might be possible. Rather dismiss that as just nothing compared to some fucking unachievable undefinable libertopia. A libertopia that we have no interest in really make happen as long as we can just bullshit about how wonderful it might be if we're to magically happen.
A truly useless philosophy and advocates who are beyond useless.
You’re not necessarily making your case on the defense side by citing BRACs. Yeah, we’ve cut back on it as a percentage of federal spending, but the reality is that the DoD is approaching a “hollowed-out” state similar to the late 70s simply because, for all the spending taking place there, they actually don’t have the manning or resources to meet the requirements being laid on them by Congress and the administration. Every service is suffering the effects of burnout from a 20-year, largely fruitless campaign that overtaxed their existing resources, cut manning back whenever possible and required those who were left to do the jobs of several people at once. It’s not just the woke shit that’s affecting recruiting–the word is getting out that the leadership don’t actually give a shit about maintaining a functional organization, and will buttfuck the junior members and NCOs every chance they get.
Meanwhile, we’re dumping our stockpiles into Ukraine, while new platforms take years, if not decades to come online, and when they do they possess such complex systems that the military actually UNDERBUYS what they need to keep those platforms operating at peak efficiency–because more complex systems have more points of failure, break easier and at accelerated rates, need larger supply stocks to keep them functioning, and are more expensive to fix.
If we want to cut defense spending in a substantive manner, we actually need to cut back on and re-prioritize global defense commitments, especially in third-world shitholes that have nothing to do with the US whatsoever. Simply shutting down a few bases in Bumblefuck and Backwoods, USA isn't going to get us where we need to go.
And let's not get things twisted, the country is lot more likely to be taken down by exponential entitlement spending in Medicare and Medicaid than it will by defense spending. Whether cutting back on those programs is actually possible is beside the point--eventually, the system will come down, irrespective of all efforts to keep it running. When that happens the entitlements will collapse organically as well, because no one wanted to be realistic about the rise in medical spending, its effects on those programs, and the failure to address the very real problem of tens, even hundreds of millions of very unhealthy people all wanting to indulge their appetites, and then expecting heroic medical care until they gracelessly expire.
It's like gun-grabbers wringing their hands over relatively small numbers of gun deaths when alcohol-related deaths are the 2nd-leading cause of preventable death in the country. They not only miss the forest for the trees that gun violence in the US is driven by socio-economic issues, not guns, they've homed in on something that empirically kills less people. Their motivations for this vary, but its all driven by the same utopian nonsense that simply getting rid of guns will make a dysfunctional society functional.
The current debt is 36 trillion, the number of taxpayers is 144 million, Your share is $249449.37. Pay up deadbeat!
I will pay up after the Honorable Mr. President and his wife cough up the half a million in dodged taxes from their 'book deals'. And after we discuss the funny money from certain unnamed foreign sources in a very large Communist Chinese country.
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Fuck you, cut spending.
Anyone who thinks there's any chance in hell that Joe Biden will agree to a deal that involves spending cuts is delusional, an idiot, or both.
He can take what he gets, let the bomb go off, or hope McCarthy tucks his tail between his legs.
I hope he doesn't. Democrats are doing everything conceivable to screw up the country; might as well stick a fork in their eye socket whenever possible. Even if it has to go through your own arm first. Worth it!
What do they have to worry about? The mass media carries their water on this every single time. These people have no sense of scale, no future-time orientation, and an entitlement streak the size of the Grand Canyon. And when it eventually falls apart, they'll STILL be whining that they didn't tax the rich enough to give them Fully Automated Gay Space Luxury Communism.
I just paid off my taxes due. They should have the money now.
Dude; That was spent during the Obama Administration. 🙂
U.S. Could Default on Debt Payments by June 1
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It would be an object lesson in a society run by functional people, but I guarantee the only thing that would happen is caterwauling by the press that their beloved welfare programs can't continue providing unsustainable payouts.
What's interesting is that if/when the federal government defaults, the official debt numbers will freeze. But total spending will not. And when they raise the debt ceiling as they always do, the debt will get a sudden bump to account for all the spending they did anyway.
LOL, yep. Happens every single time.
Given we are told the Fed hold so much of the debt, just don't pay the Fed the interest payments which is what this is about anyway. The Fed created the money from thin air to buy the debt so who cares...the Fed being the little bitches they are will shut their mouths and say nothing..
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^ This.
But Biden has squandered that extra time by refusing to negotiate with House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy
Because he's doing everything he can to crash the economy into the ground and usher forth the new socialist utopia.
A lifetime has taught me that when the big money people speak things will happen. In 2008 Republican had intention of bailing out the banks until they did. In 2020 the Trump Administration ignored Covid till the stock market crashed. The debt ceiling will be raised and not because President Biden wants it, but because the money behind the Republican party do not want a default.
Careful not to step in the bullshit, everyone.
In 2020 the Trump Administration ignored Covid till the stock market crashed.
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And all those big Wall Street banks, backing...Republicans.
Except Trump talked about covid in his SOTU speech, closed travel to and from China. Meanwhile, the left played down covid, called Trump racist, and promoted hug a Chinaman.
The... money behind the Republican party is what's controlling everything, everywhere all at once?
Of course it’s Trump’s fault that goveners created lockdown policies.
This is one of your dumbest posts.
Still not at shrike’s level, but impressive nonetheless.
The federal government must avoid default at all costs,...
At this point, why? This isn't a default in any sense that anyone would recognize. It's a temporary suspension of payments pending a settlement. It's consistently recognized as only a technical default. And contrary to your rhetoric, the very fact that it does authorize additional borrowing to spend on previously agreed-upon spending means it does, in fact, raise the deficit. If Congress has the authority to approve spending, they equally have the authority to reverse course.
We all know what the answer is going to be: haha money printer go brrrr
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The administration should stop spending money on Republican preferences -- farm subsidies, rural subsidies, nonessential defense spending, immigration enforcement, energy subsidies, backwater judicial districts -- immediately, and hold that line until enough Republicans vote to avoid a default with respect to spending Republicans already authorized.
Also, positions based on unconstitutionality of debt ceilings are worth advancing.
If Republicans wish to play stupid games, Democrats should fill conservatives' arms with stupid prizes. Shut down every federal office that caters to clingers.
The administration should stop spending money
You were doing so well.
Anti-government cranks are among my favorite culture war casualties -- and perhaps the least relevant to modern America.
Carry on, clingers. So far as your betters allow.
Such a good slave. I mean, they're not going to let you into the plantation house, but still.
Why not start slashing spending by refraining from subsidizing the parasites?
The inner cities? I knew you were racist.
How about we shut off all the power, water and food the lefty shitholes consume?
No one is forcing anyone to supply or subsidize anything for modern, successful, advanced, educated communities.
Right.
https://news.stanford.edu/2022/11/16/solar-panels-largely-confined-wealthy-americans/
Where the hell are these communities Kirky angel, we'd all like to know?
Most definitely.
https://www.americanexperiment.org/electric-cars-are-mostly-for-wealthy-people-and-youre-subsidizing-their-purchase/
No modern, successful, advanced or educated people at universities. Just clingers.
https://www.downsizinggovernment.org/education/higher-education-subsidies
Have "higher ed" backstop federal student loans..but I will give you the "intellectual class" is the most effective grifters in history. Selling bullshit degrees to rip kids off, put them into debt and have them blame not the colleges who did it to them but taxpayers. Once you take engineering, hard science, and business out of "higher ed"..it is useless.
nonessential defense spending,
LOL, nice qualification there, hicklib. Feel free to specify what you consider to be "essential" spending there.
MIT drops COVID vaccine requirements. But not until May 11. What happens between today and May 11 will be absolutely critical.
These comments have really helped me understand the Debt Ceiling better. CGP Grey was wrong. The Debt Ceiling is a good policy.
Fuck You, cut spending!
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Would someone please take the nations credit card away from these children!!
The media on purpose fear mongers the subject. The Federal Govt can't pay back principal on the bonds when they come up but roll them over courtesy of the Fed. So its like a credit card where you only pay interest and you are borrowing to pay the interest. Does that sound sane? Of course not. And of course as we borrow more and more and interest rates go up the annual interest nut goes up and crowds out the "goodies."
Solution: Shut down every federal agency created after 1960 and their associated useless programs. Then stop all foreign aid..hell stop Ukraine grifting. Or sell some of all the hard assets the Federal Govt illegally took from Western States (Land).
The only long term solution Eric is national divorce. And Yellen is an idiot..another NYC bolshie who has zero understanding of monetary or fiscal matters. Just feeds the beast.
Obviously, the real problem in that scenario is that the person using the credit card is spending
too much moneymore money than they earn.There, fixed that for you.
People with a real libertarian ideology can kind of get away with talking about spending being too high, since virtually any amount is going to be too much in their minds. That is, there are no modern, wealthy nations that spend as little as a libertarian would like, so they'd always have something they'd want to cut.
But for conservatives that make up the vast majority of the right wing in the U.S., the issue is spending too much on things that they don't want, which forces them to pay taxes for those things. They can't push through as many tax cuts if they also have to spend money on social welfare programs, public education, environmental subsidies, and so on. Want to bet on whether the House spending cuts plan excludes the military budget from limits and does nothing to raise revenue? Funny how Eric Boehm doesn't even address that question.
Also, the whole debt ceiling nonsense is an artificial crisis that the Republicans manufacture as a means to get the spending cuts they want without having to hold a majority in both chambers of Congress and the White House. They had those for 4 years rather recently, and still didn't cut spending, so this is what they do instead. If they can make Democrats agree to cuts when there is a Democrat in the Oval Office, then they can make that President take most of the blame for the pain inflicted on those that depend on that spending. Great way to avoid having to get those spending cuts at the cost of votes for them at the ballot box.
That is why the whole debt ceiling thing needs to stop being a tool for brinksmanship. To go back to the credit card analogy, it is the Republicans threatening to force the family into bankruptcy if they don't spend less on the things that other members of the family want, but that they don't, while not offering to spend less on their priorities. How about not agreeing to appropriate the money they don't want to spend in the first place? Because they can't get the votes in Congress to do that. So, suck it up and work to get those votes and stop putting a gun to their own heads to try and get their way.
Also, the whole debt ceiling nonsense is an artificial crisis that the Republicans manufacture as a means to get the spending cuts they want without having to hold a majority in both chambers of Congress and the White House
This is one of the stupidest fucking things you’ve ever posted, and that’s saying something. How many times in the last 40 years has a debt ceiling fight resulted in cuts to the amount of federal spending? Also, news flash--the national debt hasn't been paid down on an annualized basis since 1957.
This is one of the stupidest fucking things you’ve ever posted, and that’s saying something.
Given that you completely missed the point I was making, it is not surprising you would say that.
They can’t push through as many tax cuts if they also have to spend money on social welfare programs, public education, environmental subsidies, and so on. Want to bet on whether the House spending cuts plan excludes the military budget from limits and does nothing to raise revenue?
Holy shit, you mean your side doesn't always get its way and can't just ram its political agenda down everyone's throat all the time?
The government has a theoretical Credit Card and they have run up spending to a point that they have maxed out the Credit Card. Because the foxes are in the hen house, they want to increase the max amount on the Credit Card or with some set the max at infinity with out any possibility of a limit.
Spending cuts are difficult, so why not simply freeze all of the budgets exactly where they are? Stop causing more damage and hope that the economy grows us out of this over time. Perhaps audit the budgets of every department and try to streamline and reduce the expenditures.
Instead they seem to always want to raise taxes... you'd think if we kept spending and taxes at current levels the growth in the economy not to mention the population would eventually take care of the issue but it's the not increasing spending every year thing that's obviously an issue
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What's the libertarian take on this? "The permanent uni-party in DC needs to quit squabbling and agree on spending even more money on federal programs" surely is not it.
Pray for an asteroid strike.
LOL
Like President Pudding Cup is capable of negotiating anything more complex than a soiled adult diaper.
Boehm is a child.
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