Brickbat: It's Just Too Easy

Explaining her vote against a measure to ban unlawful possession of a catalytic converter, Los Angeles City Council member Nithya Raman blamed automobile makers for making part too easy to steal. Council member Eunisses Hernandez voted against the measure as well, saying it could have a disproportionate effect on black and Hispanic communities. She also warned it would cost the city money to enforce the ordinance. Some 8,000 catalytic converters were reported stolen in Los Angeles in 2022. The measure passed, eight votes to four.

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[Adans smith]

Well the things are right there under the car. So easy to get, they just can't help themselves you know.

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[psmoot]

Yeah! And they shouldn't put the wheels right out in the open on the sides of the cars! They practically jumped off the car and into my trunk! It's not my fault!

[Liberty Lover]

they are hard to take off, they are easy to saw off. Ban battery operated saws now!!!!!!

[Fist of Etiquette]

...it could have a disproportionate effect on black and Hispanic communities.

Who are more likely to want than have? That's not only racist but stupid. I sincerely doubt the bulk of voters in those communities want to see more incentive to have their converters stolen.

[Minadin]

Kind of suggests that the proclivity to steal is inherent or something . . .

[JFree]

Expensive vehicles and new vehicles are the ones who get their cat converter stolen

[Darth Buckeye]

A disproportionate number of the victims may also be people of color.

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

Lol. It’s just reflex now. A sunny day “could have a disproportionate effect on…..”

Everything is so terrible and unfair.

[AnonymousHoward]

WTF is "unlawful possession of a catalytic converter"? Like, I'm allowed to have one, but only if it's bolted to my car? What if I want to use mine as the star on my Christmas tree and then put it back on New Year's Day?

[flag58]

That's fine.
As long as you don't drive the vehicle without it.

[AnonymousHoward]

>On an 8-4 vote, the council approved an ordinance allowing police to arrest anyone who has a catalytic converter that is not connected to a vehicle — and fails to produce a receipt or other identifying information, such as documentation from an auto repair shop, spelling out the ownership.

No, it's not fine, according to the law being discussed here.

[ducksalad]

You shouldn't have a gasoline burning vehicle, you shouldn't have a Christmas tree, and you shouldn't be unbolting stuff if you're not in the unbolter's union. Sounds to me like you're the bad guy here.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I noticed that this law, despite the fact that Los Angeles City Council members are functionally retarded-- is kind of dumb. And by "kind of" I mean pretty retarded and nigh impossible to enforce.

The problem is, as usual, that Los Angeles doesn't police its crime in general, so the system is "out of balance" and now we're trying to put it back into balance 22 steps down the unbalanced path.

Because we voted for it.

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[Liberty Lover]

Yeah, don’t enforce the law, but make more laws to not enforce! Maybe they could pass a law you can steal $999 dollars worth of catalytic converters a day to cut down on the thefts of catalytic converters, and that would be legal as long as it is less than a $1000 dollars of catalytic converters stolen a day. It is a great idea based on their shoplifting laws which have totally curtailed shoplifting!

[cgr2727]

No one actually needs a catalytic converter, especially the high capacity kind with the shoulder thing that goes up.

[KerryB]

I think it's what my generation used to refer to as stealing. I've heard in those parts of the country there are no longer repercussions for that. I believe this is trying to add them back in just for government mandated emissions devices.

[Crackers Boy]

Isn't "too easy to steal" the equivalent of saying "She was asking for it, the way she was dressed."?

CB

[Jerry B.]

But it’s a good way to rationalize why your constituents are generally the ones who are caught with them.

[gah87]

"Grab 'em by the catalytic converter!"

[TJJ2000]

"blamed automobile makers".....

Way to deflect blame F'En politicians. The only reason they're there is because you whack-job politicians mandated them to be there.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Nothing prevents these greedy auto makers from welding them into an impenetrable container in the passenger compartment. Problem solved.

[TJJ2000]

I'd imagine the massive heat would be an issue.

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[Longtobefree]

I am sure the option of eliminating the converters was not discussed.

[mad.casual]

Just under the topics of increasing the number of EV charging stations and banning ICEs altogether.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

EV's don't have catalytic converters. Obviously this was an oversight that can be corrected with new legislation.

[Livemike]

"She also warned it would cost the city money to enforce the ordinance. "
Yeah the government doing it's alleged job costs money. That's why the suckers pay taxes. The city spends money on dozens of things they shouldn't spend, why baulk at spending on actual responsibilities?

[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

Those rainbow crosswalks ain’t gonna paint themselves, bigot.

[Roberta]

Why's everyone focusing on this dumb remark and missing the real reason to be against such a law: Isn't stealing already illegal? Why do we need laws against stealing particular things?

[rbike]

Well, stealing is only illegal if it is more than $950. And with depreciation and all they are prt only getting $50 per unit?

[markm23]

It's easier to stop stealing of particular things if just carrying that thing around is illegal. But first, has LA pursued the obvious alternative of banning scrap metal dealers from buying stolen catalytic converters?

[Brandybuck]

Los Angeles elects these kinds of people because Los Angeles is run by a union machine. And has been for most of a century. Why do you think there's so much sprawl down there? People escaping the city itself! Jeepers, not even the Hollywood Elite will live in Los Angeles proper.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

You voted for it.

[Guy]

Are they actually promoting stealing catalytic converters to help the bottom line of "black and brown" people? Are they annoyed that "black and brown" people will get caught and go to jail disproportionately? I've had mine stolen twice and I'm proud to say I don't care who is disproportionately hurt by nailing these thieves to the wall.

[TJJ2000]

Part of the Woke justice system is that "black and brown" people get *special* privileges to STEAL. Or did you miss that back when it all started to play out? 🙂

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I’ve had mine stolen twice and I’m proud to say I don’t care who is disproportionately hurt by nailing these thieves to the wall.

Yes, but the Los Angeles city council does care, and theirs is the only voice that matters.

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[EISTAU Gree-Vance]

Oh my. I just don’t know who is the bigger bigot: the people assuming that these thieves are “disproportionately black and brown”, or you for wanting thieves punished.

Such a dilemma.

[Darth Buckeye]

What about copper parts from the inside of AC units? Are they being stolen in LA? If so, according to this logic, it is the fault of the property owners. How about enacting criminal penalties for anyone with an air conditioner unit. That would solve a multitude of problems.

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Eight aldermen got their government-mandated converters pinched?

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