Succession's Logan Roy: Not Actually an Anarcho-Capitalist
For perhaps the first time in television history, one character describes another as a "paleolibertarian" and "practically an anarcho-capitalist." But the terms don't fit.

Spoiler alert: This post contains plot spoilers for the fourth season of Succession. Proceed at your own risk.
Last night's episode of Succession on HBO featured what might be the first ever use of the term "anarcho-capitalist" on a fictional TV show.
For those who don't watch, Succession follows the feuds between Logan Roy, a sort of Rupert Murdoch stand-in, and his children and corporate cronies as they battle for control of the family's media empire.
This most recent episode features a memorial for the recently deceased Logan, where former clients and sycophants have gathered to put the appropriate shine on his awful legacy. As a Republican flunky delivers a speech declaring Logan "a great lion of freedom," the patriarch's eldest son, Connor, mutters an objection.
"Can you believe this shit?" he says. "He's trying to make Pop into a neoconservative. He wasn't a neocon. He was a paleolibertarian. He was practically an anarcho-capitalist."
Even for a show known for being very online, those are some pretty niche ideological references.
So: Was Logan Roy an ancap who believed even bedrock functions of the state—including justice, defense, and environmental protection—could be provided by private, profit-making parties? Was he a paleolibertarian who supported a marriage of libertarian free markets with socially conservative values?
With apologies to Connor, the family's most failed failson, it doesn't seem like it.
We can safely say Logan is a capitalist in the most literal sense of the word. He owns lots of capital. The left-leaning, satirical show certainly wants us to view his character as having the soul of the stereotypical capitalist too.
Logan is a bottomless pit of greed and acquisitiveness exclusively dedicated to growing his own wealth and power. Every relationship in his life, including those with his own children, is transactional. Concerns about morality and social propriety always take a backseat to his business interests. The only times he's not profit-maximizing is when his desire to dominate or humiliate those closest to him briefly surpasses his need to earn a buck.
Of course, this is hardly a libertarian, or anarcho-capitalist, vision of how a capitalist should behave. The radical free market idea is that an economic system built on consensual exchange and mutually beneficial transactions would discipline even the greediest among us to behave semi-respectfully. It's good for business.
Logan's amorality and vindictiveness prove nearly disastrous for his business in seasons two and three. The weight of accumulated scandals and the defections from family members he's betrayed nearly bring his whole empire down. The only thing that staves off total ruin is his deliberately cultivated political influence: His allies in the White House turn a prison sentence into an easily payable fine.
The arc reinforces Logan Roy as a practitioner of what economist Randall Holcombe might call political capitalism, summarized by Reason's Veronique de Rugy as "cooperation between political and economic elites for their mutual benefit at the expense of the masses."
That's a far cry from stateless anarcho-capitalism, paleolibertarianism, or even plain old free markets. Indeed, there's nothing in Succession to indicate Logan Roy has any sincere political beliefs at all.
It's true he built his business empire off the back of a conservative cable news channel. But his interests there have nothing to do with spreading conservative (or paleolibertarian) policies or values. It's all about accumulating money and political influence.
People want to watch right-wing infotainment, and Logan Roy supplies it to them. Because people watch his influential news channel, politicians have to placate him.
But he's not backing Connor's hopeless presidential campaign to zero out the federal income tax. Instead, he's supporting a right-wing politician whose political views are somewhere between Catholic integralism and full-blown fascism.
Logan Roy might have been a capitalist who loved chaos, but that doesn't make him an anarcho-capitalist. As the youngest son, Roman Roy, responds to Connor: "If you like Benny Hill and Sinatra, does that make you one of those things?"
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How should an anarcho-anything behave and... if we lived in that 'anarcho' world, what systems would be in place to regulate or mitigate such behavior?
Not an ancap, myself, but I'm gonna guess the system in place would be someone he wronged sticking a gun in his face.
So a Mafia state
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if we lived in that ‘anarcho’ world, what systems would be in place to regulate or mitigate such behavior?
Well, people tend not to want to do business with total assholes.
Right. So remember anarcho_[whatevers], not everyone in your anarcho-space is going to think and act just like you do. That way you at least avoid utopian thinking, and are not shocked when people and things behave in ways that are antithetical to your ideals.
Society =/= the State.
Law =/= the State.
There are about 2x the private law enforcement people in the US than State law enforcement.
An-Caps aren't Utopians.
There are historical precedents of non-State societies.
An-Caps aren't anti-government per se, they are anti-State (anti-theft and monopoly).
There are lots of things that govern behavior, such as societal norms, religious institutions, families, social ostracism, and yes, even men-with-guns if you do something bad enough. None of this implies that any of these things should have monopoly force (and theft) behind them.
It occurs to us that the State is by its nature a monopoly that steals (and murders if you resist it). It also occurs to us that making a claim that the monopoly, theft, and murder is necessary is a claim, and that claim hasn't been shown to be true. So, if you'd like to defend that claim, by all means do so. After all, the Statists bring the claim, so it's their duty to support it!
Connor is an idiot. I certainly wouldn’t base an article off a throwaway line like that.
On a persona note, I tried to get into this show but it never quite grabbed me. A lot of shows are failing to grab me as of late and I'm beginning to think it's me, not them.
If you don’t admire psychopaths, haters, and backstabbers, or cops, firefighters, doctors or lawyers (sometimes all in the same show) there’s not a lot to watch.
I just binged Loudermilk. It was pretty good.
I'm watching the Sopranos now. 1 episode left. Had never seen it before.
It's good, but not elite like people seem to say. It's strength comes from great acting and world building, but the plots are a bit lacking.
In my opinion, kinda goes off the rails a bit in season 5 and 6a+6b. Not only do the characters fail to grow, they start doing illogical things just to get the story where the writers want to take it and increase melodrama.
Overall I'm both impressed and disappointed. Gandolfini is fantastic,
If you're looking to get into something, and like action+titties, I recommend Banshee. Was a Cinemax series from almost 10 years ago. Stars guy who plays Homelander as an ex-con who semi-accidentally becomes sheriff of a small town via ID theft. It's one of those duelling alpha frenemies shows (like Justified or Deadwood). Impersonator sheriff vs Amish mob boss. Ukrainian mafia, Indian insurgents, satanic cult, racist bikers, FBI, and some randos...
Show goes balls out, but is surprisingly good in addition to being entertaining as hell. Extremely strong characters.
Try Mayor of Kingstown. On paramount.
There's little chance a show conceived as far left propaganda will appeal to anyone else. Their worldview requires such idiotic caricatures it's impossible to build a compelling story.
Well, there is no need to discuss the accuracy of "paleolibertarian" or "anarcho-capitalist" as in today's left wing world of TV, they mean different things at different times.
It turns out Humpty Dumpty was ahead of his time.
Thinking that the sort of person who would write for such a series would know, or more importantly, care about such distinctions as between anarcho-capitalist and paleolibertarian ideology is to expect far too much in integrity and knowledge from them.
environmental protection
On what fucking planet is environmental protection a bedrock function of the state?
This is so retarded in so many dimensions it's practically incomprehensible.
Yeah, it's not like we need anything from the environment to survive as individuals or a society, so why should any government protect it in any way? I say malarial pools, overfishing and water depletion for all!
Do you come here to show off your lack of reading comprehension?
Whether you think the government should be protecting the environment or not is immaterial as to whether it was a "bedrock" component of government. By your own retarded tenets, we got along fine in the environment before there were governments and in the earliest documents laying the bedrock of what would become governments, justice and defense are on full display but "environmental protection" is entirely absent. Again, by your own tenets, the rise of government is highly correlated with the destruction of the environment.
From reading the comments in the Washington Post, not a lot of people actually know what capitalism or libertarian means.
They know capitalists and libertarians are Nazis. And that's enough for the DNC.
"paleolibertarian"
Believes in the right to keep and bear stone-age weapons.
And keep dinosaurs as pets.
Yabba-dabba-doo!
"Logan is a bottomless pit of greed and acquisitiveness exclusively dedicated to growing his own wealth and power."
Looks for this to be used in the next Sullum article.
Nah, it is too close to an accurate characterization of Trump, it is not divergent from reality enough for Sullum to use it.
Got it. Evil greedy rich guy bad. Let's call him a libertarian and a capitalist so we can smear all those people too.
The only thing that staves off total ruin is his deliberately cultivated political influence: His allies in the White House turn a prison sentence is turned into an easily payable fine.
So, what exactly was he at risk of arrest for? Did he murder someone? Commit fraud of some sort? Did he rob anybody? Or was his "crime" something like failing to disclose a particular corporate holding or insufficiently screening some low-level employee or one of a hundred other diktats that the government shouldn't have any business imposing? Or is this guy using his government connections to give himself an unfair business advantage, like letting him publish slander or other people's IP without liability while his competitors don't get that advantage?
His media company includes a cruise line. Apparently, before the beginning of the show, there was a lot of rapey shit going on among the ship crews that got hushed up. Kind of like Disney. The cover up became a prominent storyline.
The arc reinforces Logan Roy as a practitioner of what economist Randall Holcombe might call political capitalism, summarized by Reason's Veronique de Rugy as "cooperation between political and economic elites for their mutual benefit at the expense of the masses."
In other words, eternal cronyism.