New York's Libertarian and Green Parties Petition Supreme Court Over New York's Restrictive Ballot Access Laws
The third parties think the new ballot restrictions meet no legitimate state interest besides guaranteeing Democrat and Republican hold on government.

The Supreme Court this week officially docketed a petition for a writ of certiorari in the case Libertarian Party of New York, et al. v. New York State Board of Elections, et al. This means that, sometime after April 17, the Court will decide whether or not to actually hear the case, which challenges a new set of 2020 restrictions on ballot access in New York, arguing they unjustly impact voters' First and 14th Amendment rights.
A press release from the New York Libertarian Party (NYLP) sums up the tightening of ballot access requirements in its state that led to the lawsuit, in which it is joined by the Green Party of New York: "The threshold for a party to maintain recognized party status and ballot access was increased from 50,000 votes to 130,000 votes or 2% of the vote in the previous gubernatorial or presidential election, whichever is higher."
This led, the press release points out, to four parties that used to have ballot access in New York suddenly losing it: the Libertarian Party, the Green Party, the Independence Party, and the SAM Party. The NYLP press release points out that of the four, only the L.P., whose 2020 presidential candidate Jo Jorgensen got 60,000 votes in the state, would have kept the party's ballot access under the pre-2020 lower threshold.
The NYLP's gubernatorial candidate in 2022, Larry Sharpe, failed to make the ballot under the new rules after gathering 42,000 signatures when he needed 3,000 more to make it—meaning, as the NYLP's press release put it, that Sharpe "actually got more signatures than any other candidate, and yet he was denied a ballot spot due to the increased thresholds for ballot access." The signatures requirement prior to the challenged 2020 change was just 15,000. The signatures must be gathered in a 42-day window, making it even harder. Thanks to the new tougher signature requirement and threshold for staying a recognized party, New York saw only two candidates on the ballot for governor in 2022, for the first time since 1946.
The new law made getting on the ballot harder in another way as well, as the petition to the Supreme Court pointed out, as it "quintupled its geographic distribution requirement from at least 100 to 500 signatures from voters residing in each of one-half of New York's congressional districts."
In the two parties' Supreme Court petition, they argue that the question of how ballot access requirements should be constitutionally judged should be ripe for Supreme Court reappraisal: "For forty years, this Court has decided constitutional challenges to state election laws by applying the Anderson-Burdick analysis developed in Anderson v.
Celebrezze…(1983), and elaborated in Burdick v. Takushi….(1992). Yet in several
significant cases, the Court has suggested the analysis to be more deferential to states. This has led to confusion among and inside federal circuits, as this Court recognized 15 years ago in the splintered opinion in Crawford. Since Crawford, the confusion among lower courts has only deepened."
Roughly, the Anderson-Burdick analysis should require, as the petition quoted Anderson, that the Court "identify and evaluate the precise interests put forward by the State as justifications" for the burdens, and then "determine the legitimacy and strength of each of those interests," and seriously "consider the extent to which those interests make it necessary to burden the plaintiff's rights."
The NYLP's petition to the Supreme Court argues the lower courts didn't do that sufficiently in this challenge to New York's laws. As the third parties assert, the lower courts merely "accepted the State's proffered justifications at an abstract level of analysis—no matter how weak or pretextual in their specifics—and merely found the thresholds 'coherent,' 'rational,' 'reasonable,' and 'justified under the "quite deferential" review.'"
The state got away with arguing that the burdens couldn't be too severe since two minor parties met the new 2020 rules, the Working Families Party and the Conservative Party. But as the petition argues, those are "fusion" parties that merely nominate the same candidates as the Democrats and Republicans, respectively, and thus represent no real voter choice.
The petition also argues that Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who pushed through the new laws, pretty much admitted to the media that his goal was to "eliminate all but what he considered 'legitimate' parties" and that "the thresholds were introduced by Governor
Cuomo and passed over a matter of days as part of an emergency pandemic budget bill that the legislature was not capable of seriously debating or voting down."
Overall, the Libertarian and Green Parties are arguing that the new requirements are unduly harsh and meet no actual legitimate state interest, intended merely to guarantee a monopoly on ballot access for Democrats and Republicans. (A district court considering the challenge earlier believed, on the contrary, that the new restrictions "ensure that candidates appearing on the ballots enjoy a 'modicum' of support, thereby assisting in maintaining an organized, uncluttered ballot; preventing voter confusion and frustration; avoiding fraudulent and frivolous candidacies; and assisting the maintenance of an efficient public finance system.")
The petition says the Supreme Court needs to step in since in Anderson "the Court acknowledged that state legislatures have no incentive to consider minor parties' interests and 'more careful judicial scrutiny' is appropriate….But subsequent decisions have undermined that conclusion, leading to confusion and conflicting decisions among the lower courts." Hearing this case, the NYLP argues, is a chance to redress that issue, including many complex wrinkles laid out at length in the petition regarding the confusing and often conflicting ways the Anderson-Burdick analysis has been applied by other lower courts to assess burdens on ballot access.
Richard Winger, editor of Ballot Access News, suggested in an email to Reason about the case that the Supreme Court ought to return to a standard established in earlier cases, 1974's Storer v. Brown and 1977's Mandel v. Bradley, in which, roughly, state ballot access restrictions should be judged harshly if their effect seems to be to essentially bar third party candidates, clearly the result of New York's 2020 changes.
The third parties lost with those above arguments at the district and appeals court levels—roughly, the courts just didn't judge the new barriers to third-party access to be a sufficiently severe burden requiring judicial correction—which is why they are appealing to the Supreme Court for reconsideration.
In the NYLP's press release, Party Chair Andrew Kolstee complained that "The lower courts have denied our case and our appeals while ignoring and disregarding several of our arguments," including "that the signature-per-day count is the highest in the nation, making New York the most difficult state for a third party to get on the ballot."
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Nice to see someone from the LP working on ballot access instead of edge lording on Twitter.
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Well we know that Twitter was a huge repository of illegal child pornography at the very same time it was censoring political conservatives and factual medical information regarding COVID, so I can see why it would be a priority for someone who was banned from Reason.com for posting dark web links to hardcore pornography, shreek.
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Yeah it's the Mises Caucus's fault that New York has finally decided to dispense with the pretense of multiple parties in its elections a whole whopping year after the Mises Caucus began. Definitely not the fault of the Jared-Polis-Is-So-Dreamy-My-Panties-Need-To-Be-Wrung-Out caucus simping for Democratic Party machine politicians for 20 years. Thanks for your very important contribution to this very important discussion, Episiarch/Bo Cara Esq. You should bring this up with the Reason "executives" the next time you're having one of your classic bull sessions.
True, and karmic to see this in NY. The NY Times ran tripe demanding cops be issued bigger handguns to shoot "cocaine negroes" just before the vote on the Harrison Act. The Prohibition and Income Tax amendments were made real by planks in platforms whose parties averaged 1.4% to just over 2% of the vote. So restoring ballot access to the LP makes for undoing much damage accumulated in the looters-only era. But having Global Warmunist econazis as parties to the suit is sure to skunk-spray the LP by association.
Maybe it's time to reconsider that whole petition thing.
We've seen in NC how signing petitions subjects you to harassment. The Supreme Court could seize on this as a new circumstance making their earlier decisions outdated.
Anyway, requiring third parties to organize themselves, have a governing board with a treasurer, and pay reasonable and nondiscriminatory ballot access fees, ought to keep away some "frivolous" parties - and the voters can weed out the rest.
Why violate the secret ballot and expose petition signers to retaliation?
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This guy makes an interesting case about j6. Not what happened outside the chamber but the procedural issues inside. The crisis it would seem did not go to waste.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/12/the-parliamentary-motive-behind-the-j6-fedsurrection/
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What happened to "We don't have any jurisdiction on the matter"???
Here is your double-standard in action.
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This is bullshit, and Cuomo's "legiimate party" is also bullshit. A party is legitimate if two or more unaffiliated persons get together to form a party, IMO, and as for getting on the ballot, the bias should be to making it easier to get on the ballot, nor more difficult.
The gain in democratic process far exceeds the cost in resources.
And yet you support RCV, which pushes third party candidates off the ballot and ensures single-party rule in otherwise competitive districts. Care to elaborate on that, shreek, or would you rather histrionically scream "CRACKER!" at anyone who points out your ActBlue shilling, you pedophile faggot?
Still not shrike, you cracker POS. Though your post certainly reads like a piece of sockerie.
RCV does NOT push 3rd parties off the ballot. On the contrary, it makes citizens able to vote for 3rd parties without fearing that their vote will be wasted. Trying lying somewhere else.
https://www.buffalo.edu/news/tipsheets/2020/001.html
By eliminating the wasted vote argument, RCV provides substantially different incentives. Under RCV, parties have less reason to unify, less popular candidates have less reason to drop out of the race, and potential voters have less reason to compromise in deciding their vote. Voters can stand their ground in favor of their first choice candidate without fear of helping to elect the opposition’s candidate.
In addition, potential voters are more likely to find a candidate in the larger field to be worth turning out for. As a result, under RCV, parties not only have less of an incentive to unify their party, but have an incentive to encourage friendly candidates to stay in the race to mobilize votes who can be reassigned to the major party after the first vote tallies drop the also-rans. Turnout should increase under RCV, but this is produced by voters drawn to the polls to vote for candidates having no real prospects of being elected. Some voters for also-ran candidates might well interpret this as a “bait and switch” system.
……drawn to the polls to vote for candidates having no real prospects of being elected. Some voters for also-ran candidates might well interpret this as a “bait and switch” system.
Because it is.
Good morning, moron. No-one is forced to turn up to vote but the incentive to turn up is increased.
So sensitive……
No. You're a moron,simple as that.
The whole idea of running LP candidates on a repeal platform is to make the most totalitarian looters lose. That makes us WIN every time such a law is repealed. See (http://bit.ly/3XV2fWQ)
RCV absolutely does push third parties off the ballot. It suffers from all the same problems as our current system such as the spoiler effect, vote-splitting, and wasted votes. It's a fake reform that gives voters the illusion of choice while perpetuating the status quo. There are many good voting system reforms that make third parties viable and elect representative candidates, Hare RCV is not one of them.
Funny, the subhuman shit at reason didn't care when the dnc was sueing to kick the green party off of presidential ballots
Relying on the Supreme Court for anything that doesn't go along with DeRp is pointless
Since 1972 the looters have struggled to repeal laws without admitting they were passed by communist and prohibitionist spoiler votes and have to go thanks to LP votes. Ambrose Bierce (https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/972) defined the key term: CONGRESS, n. A body of men who meet to repeal laws. But the Congress morphed into a shrewdness of looters eagerly adding violent usurpations. The Libertarian party used to be a body of adults, then became a body of men after throwing individual rights of women under the bus. Resetting this plank could restore our 12% per annum vote growth.
This is very annoying, but unless popular elections are abolished entirely, we still have some means of participation, because they're going to choose somehow, and you can be part of that process. Find out how our rulers were chosen, and do the same.
Study Kamala Harris' career. Eww, maybe not.
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They will only act as spoilers with the voting systems currently in use. We need STAR Voting, Condorcet RCV, or Approval+Runoff first if we want third parties to be viable competitors. Without voting system reform, giving third parties ballot access can only make things worse.
On what basis do you think I'm shrike? Because that diabetic cracker JesseAZ said I was and other cretinous crackers decided to agree with him?
Not here. DLAM is a moron. He's probably an old man approaching Alzeheimer's, with a limited attention span but still remembering when he could write more than a sentence or two and could come up with an original thought.
Nope. You reposted my post where I pointed out evidence against my being shrike.
If I use an unusual term that shrike doesn't use, that is not evidence I'm shrike. You might also have missed my other evidence of my being a Briton, but as we've just seen, you don't give a shit about evidence.
I'll need to research that. But it's always been a question mark in a tiny corner of my brain. What exactly happened with the challenges? Not that they would have gotten anywhere. This is pro forma stuff. This guy's theory about standing is something I'd like to see a lawyer address but it makes sense to me. Meanwhile I have no doubt that the riots were a set up and instigated by Pelosi among others. It's entirely possible that the parliamentarian issues were her primary motivation. That is her area of expertise after all.
Plus , he has a very unpleasant personality. Toxic one might say.
It was part of the basis upon which JesseAZ accused me of being shrike. In case you didn't know, vocabulary and style can be evidence for whether someone is a sock.
Now what's your argument? Or are you just following some other cracker POS's unevidenced claim?
Same here. Two birds one stone?
A "setup" by whom? On January 4th, Bannon said they were going to do a "bloodless coup".
In the words attributed to Buffon amongst others, "Cet animal est très méchant, Quand on l'attaque il se défend"
Duh, because as I said in a post, I sampled prior threads to find out. AFAICT nobody else ever used that term on this sire, and it's not a common insult anyway - 4,210 hits on Google.
Now what evidence have you?
Poor shrike.
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Down to 3620 now for some reason.
If you are going to persist with the infantile, it's spelled, "guv'nor"
I’m telling y’all, shrike isn’t smart enough to pull off this many socks. The dumb motherfucker STILL posts links that refute his points.
And lots of people hold the same stupid/misguided views that he does, we see them on display in all the random Twitter links that get posted here.
What a read...that 'Retigler' guy laid out an interesting theory. BUT...
Who were the congressmen that were going to make the motions? One way to test the theory is to just ask them.
From a purely legal standpoint, is what posited actually true? Meaning, even the record of a motion in the Congressional record for that session would have granted standing to argue before SCOTUS. Because the motions were never made, no record.
I would like to read that analysis over at VC.
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