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TikTok

TikTok Admits It's as Clueless on Teens as the Rest of Us

A new 60-minute screen time warning on TikTok won’t stop kids from scrolling.

Bonnie Kristian | 3.3.2023 10:00 AM

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Users under 18 years old on TikTok will soon face a hurdle on their way to averaging nearly two hours per day in the popular video app, the company announced Wednesday. But the hurdle is a low one, so low as to barely deserve the name. 

In the coming weeks, underage users' accounts will automatically opt into TikTok's new 60-minute screen time limit. At the one-hour mark, they'll be served a prompt to stop using the app—unless, of course, they don't want to stop, in which case they can re-enter their password and keep right on watching. 

And if that's too much of an inconvenience, as more dedicated teenage TikTokers might well decide, they can opt out of the limit entirely and ignore the subsequent suggestion, delivered to those who pass the 100-minute mark in a day, to set a screen time limit of their own choosing. Other pieces of TikTok's announcement run along similar lines: Lots of well-meaning nudges, lots of if you want to's, lots of ways to opt out and continue exactly as you were.

For all their practical impotence, however, TikTok's changes are exemplary of the present state of America's kids-and-phones debate in two key senses: First, that a major tech company is even making a show of self-regulating like this—complete with a tacit admission that unlimited screen time is bad, especially for children—is indicative of where research results and public opinion are trending. And second, all the large-scale ideas for regulation in this space are toothless, terrible, or both.

It wasn't always obvious that we'd come to the current consensus on smartphones and the social media they make perpetually available to us. Think back to the 2008 presidential election, for instance. Then-candidate Barack Obama's team was using Facebook as no campaign had before. People were posting weird fan videos for Ron Paul on YouTube. It was exciting! It felt like real engagement, real access. There was a broad sense of optimism that massively increasing our intake of information and communication with one other was a good thing. It would make us better-informed citizens more capable of holding power to account.

A decade and a half later, what can you do but laugh at the naiveté of digital youth? Recent years—and the last two weeks in particular—have seen a rapid convergence, spanning much of the political spectrum, on the conclusion that the technological and information environment we've made has serious downsides for politics, mental health, and more. 

That's not to say there are no benefits of smartphones and social media. Obviously, they have advantages, and I myself use both. But it turns out spending one's life, from age 2 onward, with a screen affixed to one hand is actually not fun, not healthy, and not terribly conducive to rational thought, good citizenship, or enjoying time with friends and family in real life. 

So now there's an urge to regulate, but the regulatory ideas are lacking, to say the least. Some are as useless as TikTok's screen time "limits," which aren't really limits at all. TikTok's language around one new feature, a sleep time reminder, is particularly revealing on this point: It can "help you get to bed when you want to," and you can also "delay your sleep time," if you like. 

As I know from personal experience—having repeatedly set and ignored screen time limits on my iPhone—regulations of this kind can at most play a supporting role. They only work if you want their help to control your own behavior hour after hour, day after day, forever. Do we expect to find that kind of habitual self-discipline in screen-obsessed children?

Worse than regulations that would accomplish little, though, are the regulatory ideas that would do far too much. Some proposals would violate the First Amendment. Others would put millions of people's privacy and personal documents at risk, give prosecutors overbroad latitude to hassle tech companies, or upend the whole internet as we know it. As is often the case, involving the state in this problem will almost certainly make it worse.

I continue to think personal, familial, and voluntary communal regulation of our tech use is by far the best choice we have. Yet even there the ideas on offer are messy at best. Take the single biggest question I see discussed among parents of children school-aged and younger: When do you let them get a smartphone?

It seems simple enough: Pick a reasonable age and hold the line, just as you do with any number of childhood milestones. My own inclination is to pin phone ownership to college or a first job or car.

But phones and social media have a unique place in kids' social lives. As social psychologist Jonathan Haidt recently explained, parents face "a trap—a collective action problem": Because so much social activity and coordination happens asynchronously online, forcing one kid to go without a phone or a given app can leave them worse off, though all the kids "would be better off if everyone quit."

Being the sole child of Luddites in your friend group is a major social detriment. It's isolating. It's lonely. Living in a red-eyed thrall to "a little bit of everything all of the time" sucks, but missing out on the group chat sucks too.

In the long run, it's reasonable to hope we'll figure out how to handle these new technologies better than we do now, to more reliably reap their benefits while avoiding their risks. I don't know that I share that hope, but I do find it reasonable. Ideas for fixes might get better. Companies like TikTok might adapt their business models to make temperance and profit more compatible goals.

But parents grappling with how to raise their kids in the digital age can't wait for society writ large to adapt itself to the truly novel means of communication which have so completely infiltrated our lives in the last 30 years. That will be a project on the scale of decades, if history is any guide, and childhood doesn't happen in the long run.

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Bonnie Kristian is the author, most recently, of Untrustworthy: The Knowledge Crisis Breaking Our Brains, Polluting Our Politics, and Corrupting Christian Community.

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  1. Jerry B.   3 years ago

    Tik Tok and the CCP know that kids will get around such limits, so they make a performative statement that really has no meaning.

  2. Brandybuck   3 years ago

    "What's up with the kids these days?" --Marcus Tullius Cicero, 56 BCE

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    2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      "OK, Boomerus." -- Cicero's teenager, 56 BCE

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  3. Inquisitive Squirrel   3 years ago

    It's a business practicing CYA. It has nothing to do with actually trying to limit kids' screen time. It has everything to do with being able to point to an action taken in order to appease regulators and protect against lawsuits.

    1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      Yup. Especially when Congress is talking about mental health and banning the app for kids' safety, the company has to make a show of doing something. "We're TRYING to limit kids' time but we can't make decisions for them."

      Seems like an odd thing for libertarians to leave out: taking pre-emptive action to try to stave off government intervention.

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  4. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

    Seems like an odd thing for libertarians to leave out: taking pre-emptive action to try to stave off government intervention.

    Yeah, Bonnie Kristian must not be a libertarian because she talked about other stuff in her blog post.

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  5. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    just say no to tik tok! That'll work

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  6. Dillinger   3 years ago

    ban. teenagers.

  7. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    Their concerns are not just about coercion in the porn industry, porn's availability to minors, or other common worries. Rather, the group echoes old radical feminist tropes about pornography—that there is no such thing as ethical porn, that it's all "exploitation," and its mere existence is "a form of violence against women."

    Yes, they had "captured the entire social network" which was nominally against Facebook's TOS, but Facebook execs and managers met with the Obama admin and said it was all ok "because we're on your side!"

    Literally.

    1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      Your comment seems to be off topic, but since you brought it up how was someone's "capturing the entire social network" "nominally against Facebook's TOS"?

      What does "nominally against" mean?

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        Unfortunately (for me) my comment wasn't off-topic, but for some reason what was in my clipboard was. Here was the section I wanted to quote:

        Think back to the 2008 presidential election, for instance. Then-candidate Barack Obama's team was using Facebook as no campaign had before.

        1. Dillinger   3 years ago

          >>>using Facebook as no campaign had before

          iirc, donations from Palestine (not Ohio)

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        In 2012, the Obama campaign encouraged supporters to download an Obama 2012 Facebook app that, when activated, let the campaign collect Facebook data both on users and their friends.

        According to a July 2012 MIT Technology Review article, when you installed the app, "it said it would grab information about my friends: their birth dates, locations, and 'likes.' "

        The campaign boasted that more than a million people downloaded the app, which, given an average friend-list size of 190, means that as many as 190 million had at least some of their Facebook data vacuumed up by the Obama campaign — without their knowledge or consent.

        If anything, Facebook made it easy for Obama to do so. A former campaign director, Carol Davidsen, tweeted that "Facebook was surprised we were able to suck out the whole social graph, but they didn't stop us once they realized that was what we were doing."

        This Facebook treasure trove gave Obama an unprecedented ability to reach out to nonsupporters. More important, the campaign could deliver carefully targeted campaign messages disguised as messages from friends to millions of Facebook users.

        The campaign readily admitted that this subtle deception was key to their Facebook strategy.

        "People don't trust campaigns. They don't even trust media organizations," Teddy Goff, the Obama campaign's digital director, said at the time. "Who do they trust? Their friends."

        According to a Time magazine account just after Obama won re-election, "the team blitzed the supporters who had signed up for the app with requests to share specific online content with specific friends simply by clicking a button."

        The effort was called a "game-changer" in the 2012 election, and the Obama campaign boasted that it was "the most groundbreaking piece of technology developed for the campaign."

        Because of how the internet works, I was also going to link you to the Ted talk given by the woman who ran this op for the Obama campaign where she admits that it normally "wouldn't be allowed".

        The bolded quote above alludes to the other tidbit (hard to find, but trust me it is 900% real) that Facebook officials declared that "normally we wouldn't allow a campaign to do this... but 'we're on your side' as it was the Obama campaign that was doing it.

        1. mad.casual   3 years ago

          Interesting note:

          If you reframe this topic in chronological order it looks like what we'd call today a slow-motion "Conspiracy Theory". Which means, somewhere 2016-2020, whatever karmic or emergent component of the internet that rinses and tumbles massive loads of bullshit until nothing but diamonds are left, kicked into super-overdrive.

        2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          So, above, you meant to write "normally against" not "nominally against".

          1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

            You cawt it!

    2. mad.casual   3 years ago

      Think back to the 2008 presidential election, for instance. Then-candidate Barack Obama's team was using Facebook as no campaign had before. People were posting weird fan videos for Ron Paul on YouTube.

      [squints] Can't tell if ignorant Zoomers or if Reason has finally sold out every last shred of any 21st Century Libertarian heritage or relevance they may've had.

      Obama ran a "conventional" campaign in 2008. I say "conventional" as this is the election where in a series of historic firsts, McCain vowed not to take public campaign finance money (Historic First!), Obama agreed (Historic First!) and then Barack reneged (Historic First!).

      The wet-roads/2 lies aspect is that it was Ron Paul who ran the unprecedented and notably unconventional Social Media campaign. Even noting that while the others were debating PACs and federal money as mentioned, Paul raised something like 95+% of his funds from donors of less than $20, or similar. A strategy/set of tactics that Barack would adapt (per your descriptions) in 2012.

      If you're a Zoomer who can't remember this, it's able to be readily triangulated from Wikipedia and other sources:

      Paul formally declared his candidacy for the 2008 Republican nomination on March 12, 2007, on C-SPAN.[83] Few major politicians endorsed him, and his campaign was largely ignored by traditional media.[84] However, he attracted an intensely loyal grassroots following,[85] interacting through internet social media.[86][87][88] In May 2007, shortly after the first televised primary debates, the blogs search engine site Technorati.com listed Paul's name as the term most frequently searched for;[86] and Paul's campaign claimed that Paul had more YouTube channel subscribers than Barack Obama or any other candidate for president.[89] Paul fundraised more money than any other Republican candidate in the fourth quarter of 2007, as the primary season headed into the Iowa caucuses.[90][91]

      Despite benefiting from campaign contributions from individual donors,[92] and the supporters determined to keep his name a frequent topic of discussion on the internet,[86] over the course of the campaign Paul was unable to translate the enthusiasm of his core supporters into large enough numbers of actual primary votes to unseat his rivals.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul#2008_presidential_campaign

      Howard Dean collected large contributions through the Internet in his 2004 primary run. In 2008, candidates went even further to reach out to Internet users through their own sites and such sites as YouTube, MySpace, and Facebook.[116][117]

      On December 16, 2007, Ron Paul collected $6 million, more money on a single day through Internet donations than any presidential candidate in US history.[118][119][120]

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_presidential_election#Fundraising

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  9. StevenF   3 years ago

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    Note: I am not taking a position for, or against, TikTok in general.

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  11. برامج ok   3 years ago

    Obama ran a “conventional” campaign in 2008. I say “conventional” as this is the election where in a series of historic firsts, McCain vowed not to take public campaign finance money (Historic First!), Obama agreed (Historic First!) and then Barack reneged (Historic First!).

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  12. Mani   3 years ago

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