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Review: Mastodon Decentralizes Social Media

Elon Musk’s shambolic takeover may not have been great for Twitter, but it was fantastic for Mastodon.

C.J. Ciaramella | From the March 2023 issue

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Elon Musk's shambolic takeover may not have been great for Twitter, but it was fantastic for Mastodon, a social media platform that saw usership skyrocket in response.

Mastodon is not a single site. Instead, it's a collection of "federated" independent servers, each centered around a topic: anarchism, food, etc. In practice it's like a mix of Reddit and Twitter, but less centralized. Decentralization is in fact Mastodon's big selling point: You don't have to worry about a San Francisco tech executive monkeying with your server.

I considered joining a metal or gaming server, but I knew where I belonged and what I deserved, so I joined one for reporters. It's easy to post and browse on Mastodon, and it's devoid of Twitter's late-life bloat. It's quiet, though, and it's still unclear whether Mastodon's growth will achieve exit velocity or come back down to earth.

Whether it rises or falls, Mastodon's existence is a reminder—for all the bipartisan caterwauling about the need for government to rein in Big Tech's supposed monopoly—that social media users can and do vote with their feet.

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  1. Chumby   2 years ago

    Mastodon is for Twitter users no longer feeling safe after government censorship requests ceased to be acted on.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      Basically. Explains Reason's affection for it.

      I mean, they never really reported on joining OTHER alternatives in the past. Only here when the government's demands were publicized by...well, not Reason.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        It’s funny when low level journalists think they will outsmart Elon Musk.

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      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        That’s right … if Reason mentions something it has affection for it…

        If Reason doesn’t mention something it is suppressing it on orders from the DNC.

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          2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

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            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              Fuck off, sea lion. Go white knight elsewhere.

            2. Chumby   2 years ago

              ENB is not going to fuck you.

              If you want a cite for that, read your posts then look in the mirror.

              1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                He will never cawpulate with her.

        2. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

          Musk committed the unpardonable sin of banning pedo accounts.

      3. MoreFreedom   2 years ago

        The author missed the elephant in the room: does Mastadon censor? What difference does it make, if instead of Joel Roth deciding what's censored for Twitter (thankfully he's no longer working there), different individuals censor at each decentralized server? He wrote "You don't have to worry about a San Francisco tech executive monkeying with your server." So instead, you get censors for each server? The answer is revealed at Wikipedia in the article on Mastadon:

        "It has microblogging features similar to Twitter, which are offered by a large number of independently run nodes, known as instances, each with its own code of conduct, terms of service, privacy policy, privacy options, and content moderation policies."

        The author has exchanged his now uncensored Twitter account, to a less visible platform with fewer readers, to a Mastadon account whose use of censorship is less known than what Twitter did. I'll bet the FBI is already working on them.

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago

          "The author has exchanged his now uncensored Twitter account"

          Twitter surely has its own code of conduct, terms of service, privacy and content moderation policies, and a small army of bureaucrats to enforce them.

        2. Johnathan Galt   2 years ago

          Yes, but the author’s departure from Twitter improved Twitter more than it helped Mastadon…

    2. Winnie SC   2 years ago

      The author is a wokenazi thug.

      Heil Hitler!

  2. JesseAz   2 years ago

    so I joined one for reporters.

    So Journolist. Why are reporters so keen in living in bubbles. Laziness? Let someone else do the leg work so you can all have the same report? Maintain industry biases?

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      I should also point out that Mastodon has been trying to be woke Twitter for years.

      Mastodon’s official site will only list instances that follow the Mastodon Server Covenant. The covenant mandates “active moderation against racism, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia”

      There have been calls to change source code to ban the Gab servers for a while.

      https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/12/20691957/mastodon-decentralized-social-network-gab-migration-fediverse-app-blocking

      “My core objective is to keep Amaroq publicly available and to abide by all Apple policies, which keep unmoderated extremist/hateful content off the store,” he tells The Verge. “If your network is large enough and unmoderated enough to get the negative attention of Apple, Amaroq will follow Apple’s policies.”

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Mastodon is a good thing, it's almost impossible to censor and an "official site" means practically nothing.

        I hope libertarians don't hate on Mastodon just because idiot establishmentarians like the Reasonistas are trying to use it to punish Musk for ruining their playground.

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  3. JFree   2 years ago

    The problem for Mastodon is that there is no marketing for those servers. Neither the notion that those servers are online communities that will need to go beyond their Mastodon implementation nor any easy way of creating new ones for new subgroups.

    Basically people are lazy and want platforms rather than protocols.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      So hard to create a server.

      https://growyourown.services/making-your-own-mastodon-server-in-10-steps/

      1. Gozer the Gozarian   2 years ago

        Where is your server?

        1. JFree   2 years ago

          It isn't just the server. That just costs money. But a server that becomes an online community can make money. Mastodon is just a social media protocol - which can then be integrated with other protocols or open source like Friendica, Drupal, Peertube, Libervia, streaming/podcasting stuff, etc. But the sorts of people who can form a community on a single server are churches, alumni groups, professional associations, neighborhood stuff - not the virtual platform based shit like Facebook, Twitter,etc.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          I dont use mastadon. Since when is 10 steps difficult. There are even 5 minute setup videos on YouTube for the truly dumb.

          1. mtrueman   2 years ago

            "I dont use mastadon."

            I don't either but then I don't use any social media like twitter of facebook. I might give it a whirl if I were so inclined. Doing new things is always more difficult than you think it should be. I recently installed Arch linux on my Raspberry Pi. There are many youtube videos on the subject, all different and sometimes contradictory, and there's also the much vaunted Arch user guide. It still took me the better of 3 weeks to get it done as I wanted. It's worth the effort for a hobbyist 'power user' like me, as it's better than the native RPi OS. Key lesson is that it's not smarts but dedication and persistence that is required to expand our knowledge of the computer world. The people who are impatient and pressed for time will stick to Windows, twitter, Netflx and the like.

            1. 5.56   2 years ago

              Uhhm…. Uhh… do you even have the faintest notion of how simple you are?

              1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                I'm glad you asked. Arch linux has a famous user guide that many in the community consult. But the Raspberry Pi runs ArchlinuxArm, a different distro for a different architecture. I like a tiling window manager and have been using i3. My Pi is 32 bit architecture. Arch was the way to go to put the two together. Manjaro for example offers distros with i3 but only with 64 bit versions.

                1. 5.56   2 years ago (edited)

                  Have fun with your Lego, little boy. 😀

                2. 5.56   2 years ago (edited)

                  You’re aware you know shit about “computers” and that this is sorely obvious, right?

                  1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                    I am a hobbyist and power user.

                    1. Ersatz   2 years ago

                      I have to commend you on remaining civil in your responses to what is obviously baiting.
                      You have a view of yourself and your abilities and dont appear threatened by someone elses denigration of your claims.

                      I cant judge whose eval is correct, but your conduct was better.

                    2. mtrueman   2 years ago

                      In falconry, the word bate means “to flap the wings impatiently.”

  4. Minadin   2 years ago

    "Elon Musk's shambolic takeover may not have been great for Twitter"

    Twitter is 100% more fun and engaging since he cleaned house. And, I understand that they are reporting more posts by more users than before he bought it, and a lot less bot activity.

    I especially enjoy seeing the actually fact-based 'community fact-check' feature, where individual Twitter users can counter (often leftist) official propaganda BS stories with well-sourced, cited, reality. It's been a thing of beauty to see some of the mainstream media and other establishment types get their comeuppance.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "And, I understand that they are reporting more posts by more users than before he bought it, and a lot less bot activity."

      This is what secretly galls Ciaramella the most.

    2. Zeb   2 years ago

      I never looked at Twitter much before, and I don't a ton now. But as far as I can see it's working just fine and discussions are now quite open. Less censorship is clearly good. It doesn't seem to be crumbling. I really am not sure what people are talking about when they say it's not going well.

  5. Gozer the Gozarian   2 years ago

    Once again Reason demonstrates it's ignorance or disregard for "the market".

    The market chooses things that are convenient. Decentralized systems that require users to do work will always remain in the minority due to...wait for it...market forces.

    So while libertarians are celebrating Twitter turmoil and Mastodon's decentralization, the market will return to Twitter and Mastodon's growth will largely be a flash in the pan.

    Pop some popcorn and watch it play out.

    1. JFree   2 years ago

      Platforms like Twitter will fail . They don't scale sustainability and they, like old media based on ads, will run out of billionaires to throw money down a toilet.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        You're pretty much noted as someone who is correct in predictions about as much as Malthus was.

    2. NOYB2   2 years ago (edited)

      The market chooses things that are convenient. Decentralized systems that require users to do work will always remain in the minority due to…wait for it…market forces.

      Decentralized systems are indeed a little less convenient... though that doesn't seem to be much of a problem with E-mail or DNS.

      On the other hand, platforms like Facebook and Twitter would face massive legal risks if they were held accountable like other private industries. The only reason that isn’t happening is because the government has exempted them from liability in many cases.

      Without government interference, Facebook and Twitter wouldn’t be viable, and users would be forced to use less convenient distributed platforms. That is the actual free market outcome.

      1. mtrueman   2 years ago

        "Without government interference, Facebook and Twitter wouldn’t be viable, and users would be forced to use less convenient distributed platforms. That is the actual free market outcome."

        Without government interfering by enforcing their laws to protect intellectual property, a lot of businesses wouldn't be viable. Add Microsoft and Apple to the list. Our system encourages and protects rentiers. Who knew?

        1. NOYB2   2 years ago

          Without government interfering by enforcing their laws to protect intellectual property, a lot of businesses wouldn’t be viable. Add Microsoft and Apple to the list.

          Apple and Microsoft don't depend much on "protection of intellectual property", they have technological means for excluding others.

          Our IP law exists to encourage publication and sharing.

          Our system encourages and protects rentiers. Who knew?

          Wow, you say that people can make money from investments? Amazing! What does that have to do with intellectual property?

          1. mtrueman   2 years ago

            "Apple and Microsoft don’t depend much on “protection of intellectual property”, they have technological means for excluding others."

            They also have legal means. And use them. Windows and Apple rely on them when they go to court. I remember reading sometime back that for every four computers the government runs, they buy one license to run windows. Completely gratuitous as software is perfectly capable of running on any number of computers. Files can be easily copied at essentially no cost, but for the legal intellectual property protections. Rent seeking as I pointed out earlier.

            "Amazing! What does that have to do with intellectual property?"

            Intellectual property is rent, money made from owning something, not doing something. The notion that Facebook and Twitter are somehow unique in the protections afforded to them by intellectual property is ridiculous. I already pointed out that Microsoft and Apple do as well. How about naming any drug company. You'll find the same thing.

            1. 5.56   2 years ago (edited)

              I am in awe of these purest displays of simplicity. You must be an archetype. I’m happy I was ever able to witness you. Reading your comments is like experiencing perfect level. This is beautiful.

              1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                My aim is awe.

                1. NOYB2   2 years ago

                  You project ignorance and stupidity.

                  1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                    "You project ignorance and stupidity."

                    I'm not projecting. I stated immediately I don't use Twitter or Mastodon. This much I know: Twitter is proprietary, Mastodon is FOSS, the differences follow from that distinction.

            2. NOYB2   2 years ago

              Intellectual property isn’t "rent", nor is it "making money". It is neither necessary nor sufficient for being a "rentier".

              And being a rentier had nothing to do with rent seeking.

              I have no idea what you are trying to get at with your incoherent rambling.

              1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                My apologies for not making myself clearer. Twitter is proprietary, Mastodon is FOSS. I hope that makes things easier for my readers.

                1. NOYB2   2 years ago

                  Twitter is proprietary, Mastodon is FOSS. I hope that makes things easier for my readers.

                  You are stating the obvious. Everybody knows that. Re-read what I wrote to try to understand why it doesn't matter that Mastodon is FOSS. (And I didn't talk about Twitter at all.)

                  1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                    "Re-read what I wrote "

                    You're the one who admitted to having no idea what I was trying to get at. It's you who needs to do the re-reading.

  6. Ronbback   2 years ago

    Reason please site how Musk's take over of Twitter was a sham since he clearly did and also please explain why you think it is terrible that he now runs it. other than allowing free speech for eveyone I've seen no other issues there

    1. CaroleBass   2 years ago (edited)

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    2. Zeb   2 years ago

      "Shambolic" doesn't mean it's a sham. It is comparing it to a shambles, which is an old-timey word for a slaughterhouse.
      Which also seems like a ridiculous way to characterize it.

    3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

      "Shambolic" is not the same word as "sham".

      It's about like equating "niggardly" with "nigger" because they sound like they are related.

  7. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    Never tried Twitter. Left Facebook because of idiotic bans. Tried Mastodon and found no "there" there ... meh

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Yeah, Mastodon has potential to become something significant, but it isn't there yet.

    2. Louis Lucky   2 years ago

      Give it a shot. Or not.

  8. DRM   2 years ago

    Twitter before Musk was simultaneously a massive bonfire of money and a real-life instantiation of Orwell's Ministry of Truth.

    Now, of course, I don't expect the usual power-fellating propagandists of the mainstream media to do anything but carp and mock as Musk transforms Twitter (with the inevitable bumps) into a profitable enterprise that at least nods in the direction of free speech and open discussion, but a libertarian magazine like Reason---

    --Wait, sorry, no , give me a few minutes, and I'll be able to control the laughing and suggest with a straight face that we can actually expect Reason to be libertarian rather than power-fellating propaganda.

    Yes, Mr. Ciaramella, you very much belong on a "reporters" Mastodon server.

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      What precisely did Ciaramella say that indicates he is anti-Musk?

  9. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>shambolic

    here is literally the only place I've seen/heard anyone complain about twitter since Elon.

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      Poor CJ! Not at all happy that those 'conspiracy theories' were true the entire time!

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Calling Musk's takeover "shambolic" is not necessarily complaining about Twitter. It is describing the chaos/awkwardness of the takeover.

  10. CaroleBass   2 years ago (edited)

    I’ve made $84,000 so far this year working online and I’m a full time student. I’m using an online business opportunity I heard about and I’ve made such great money. It’s really user friendly and I’m just so happy that I found out about it. The potential with this is endless.

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  11. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

    Well I've said it before but I guess it needs repeating. Elon Musk has done more for free speech and exposed more government censorship in the last few months than Reason has done in half a century.

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      And that is why they are so butthurt, their corruption and complicity in the censorship.

  12. NOYB2   2 years ago (edited)

    In principle, distributed, federated social networks like Mastodon are a good thing.

    Unfortunately, right now, the Mastodon “community” is a bunch of censorious authoritarian bigots. The Mastodon network does not allow anybody to join who doesn’t comply with their political views and demands.

    You could potentially use the software to create an alternative, more liberal network. But some software licenses may make that difficult, and you can’t trust a codebase written by fascists.

    Let’s hope someone will create a truly open federated social networking platform that we can actually trust.

    A useful feature would be to allow sites like Reason to replace their comments section with it, both solving their technical problems and addressing issues with regulation and government pressures to censor.

    1. mtrueman   2 years ago

      "You could potentially use the software to create an alternative, more liberal network. But some software licenses may make that difficult,"

      Twitter's software is propriatary. Monkey around with it and it could land you in legal trouble. Mastodon is free open source software. FOSS. You're free to change it, distribute it and make money from it if you agree to something like giving credit to the original authors.

      "Let’s hope someone will create a truly open federated social networking platform that we can actually trust."

      If you can't trust the networking people, there's no reason to trust the networking platform.

      "A useful feature would be to allow sites like Reason to replace their comments section with it"

      Aren't the comments the property of the commenter?

      1. NOYB2   2 years ago

        Mastodon is free open source software. FOSS.

        Yes, but many of the clients are not, and they refuse to connect to clients the authors of those clients disapprove of politically.

        If you can’t trust the networking people, there’s no reason to trust the networking platform.

        I don't trust the Mastodon authors: they are censorious bigots.

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago

          "I don’t trust the Mastodon authors: they are censorious bigots."

          You are free to author your own version of mastodon code. That's what FOSS is about. Try that with twitter or any other proprietary code. You may end up in court.

          1. NOYB2   2 years ago

            Mastodon isn't just the core server, it's a software ecosystem. You don't want to participate in an ecosystem with censorious bigots: from backdoors to refusing bug fixes and license changes, they can screw you in many ways.

            Don't use Mastodon if you care about liberty. There are alternatives. Another reason to avoid it like the plague is that it is written in Ruby.

            1. mtrueman   2 years ago

              "Don’t use Mastodon if you care about liberty. "

              I don't use any social media and it's not because I'm wringing my hands over losing my liberty.

              "that it is written in Ruby."

              I didn't know that but I like Ruby better than other OO languages that I'm familiar with.

              1. NOYB2   2 years ago

                I don’t use any social media

                But you do.

                I didn’t know that but I like Ruby better than other OO languages that I’m familiar with.

                For practical purposes, Ruby is dead. It peaked about 8 years ago, never making it into the top 10 languages, and has been steadily declining since.

                1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                  "But you do."

                  I have a Twitter and Facebook account but haven't used either in years. I occasionally turn to twitter to get updates on breaking news. Earthquakes, etc.

                  "It peaked about 8 years ago, never making it into the top 10 languages, and has been steadily declining since."

                  I don't care about that. These days I dabble in Elixir, a functional language, much more intuitive than Clojure or Haskell with a syntax similar to that of Ruby. Elixir will still never make the top ten, twenty or thirty. It was released over ten years ago and is still active today.
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elixir_(programming_language)

  13. Sevo   2 years ago

    "Elon Musk's shambolic takeover may not have been great for Twitter,..."

    Upset that the 'conspiracy theories' turned out to be factual, CJ?

  14. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Elon Musk’s shambolic takeover may not have been great for Twitter, but it was fantastic for Mastodon.

    I actually had an involuntary LOL when I read this statement.

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Why? Explain please.

  15. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Decentralization is in fact Mastodon's big selling point: You don't have to worry about a San Francisco tech executive monkeying with your server.

    I actually had to read this sentence twice. The first time I read it, I nodded because the images in my head that floated in were: Zuckerberg, Dorsey, Yoel Roth, Vijaya Gadde, various FBI officials, Jen Psaki, Hamilton68, the CIA, Media Matters, the DNC, James Clapper and so on.

    Then I read the sentence a second time and realized Ciaramella was talking about Elon Musk.

    I guess from Reason's perspective, everything was fine when the former was the group running Twitter, but Twitter REALLY went downhill when the latter took over.

    Keep your private sector hands off my social media site!

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      "I guess from Reason’s perspective, everything was fine when the former was the group running Twitter, but Twitter REALLY went downhill when the latter took over."

      Ciaramella doesn't say that.

      The only negative thing he says about Twitter is that Elon Musk's takeover was "shambolic", meaning it was chaotic and disorganized. That's pretty factually descriptive.

      1. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

        Ciaramella seems like another left libertarian. God can't Reason hire some good old Ron Paul Libertarians..some ethnic European American Catholics would be good.

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago

          "some ethnic European American Catholics would be good."

          Good?!! You'll never get better than an ethnic European American Catholic. (Unless he's French)

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        Reason has written numerous articles describing what's happening at Twitter as an "implosion" and now *checks notes* at least two articles extolling the virtues of Mastodon (the tofurkey of Social Media) as an alternative to Twitter.

        What's interesting is none of these descriptors were using WHILE Twitter was censoring at the behest of all the actors I named above.

        But sure, while Twitter was in the Thrall of sharp-dressed administrators with snappy armbands and a highly efficient "final solution" for problematic accounts all running at full steam, yeah, it wasn't "shambolic", it was an efficient and a tightly run operation! Now some dirty hippie has taken over and shut down the camps! MOVE TO ARGENTINA MASTODON!

        It's pretty clear what Reason's editorial view on Pre Elon Twitter is vs post Elon twitter is. And it's pretty clear that the author's admission that the "journolist" on Mastodon being "pretty quiet" is proof that all the "we're going to Canada if Elon becomes president" from our media class was just a bunch of gold-plated horseshit.

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago

          "It’s pretty clear what Reason’s editorial view on Pre Elon Twitter is vs post Elon twitter is."

          I think Reason likes decentralized networks. Bitcoin is a good example.

  16. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

    It’s easy to post and browse on Mastodon, and it’s devoid of Twitter’s late-life bloat. It’s quiet, though, and it’s still unclear whether Mastodon’s growth will achieve exit velocity or come back down to earth.

    Whether it rises or falls, Mastodon’s existence is a reminder—for all the bipartisan caterwauling about the need for government to rein in Big Tech’s supposed monopoly—that social media users can and do vote with their feet.

    Yes, and if I look carefully at the most vocal caterwaulers' feet, they’re pretty firmly planted at Twitter. That’s why Mastodon for reporters is “so quiet”.

    1. mtrueman   2 years ago

      "That’s why Mastodon for reporters is “so quiet”."

      Quiet is not so bad. The first days of bitcoin were also quiet.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        You're in a league with JFree and Thomas Malthus WRT your predictions.

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        As were the first days of the Segway motorized personal vehicle! Now look at it!

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago

          "Now look at it!"

          Don't bother. Look at other examples of FOSS (free open source software) like bittorrent, linux etc. They are all doing fine despite their reputation as being difficult to use. If Mastodon is quiet, that's a plus. Less time wading through the dross and more time on productive activities.

      3. NOYB2   2 years ago

        Mastodon will remain quiet. It's full of intolerant left wing bigots, not a platform or community that is particularly compelling.

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago

          There's nothing wrong with being quiet unless you're seeking a large audience. FOSS is by its nature full of left wing bigots. Get used to it as it comes with the territory. FOSS stands for free open source software. You've heard of one of the most prominent advocates Richard Stallman? The closest thing to a bona fide communist you're likely to find in America today. Right wing bigots are more comfortable with the closed hierarchies of proprietary software.

          1. NOYB2   2 years ago

            You’ve heard of one of the most prominent advocates Richard Stallman? The closest thing to a bona fide communist you’re likely to find in America today.

            Stallman is not a "communist", he's a kind of "libertarian socialist".

            And influential as Stallman was, he failed to achieve his vision: the vast majority of projects use open source licenses other than GPL.

            And most open source developers these days are gainfully employed by corporations who pay for open source development not for ideological reasons but to achieve business objectives.

            Right wing bigots are more comfortable with the closed hierarchies of proprietary software.

            Why, yes! That's because anybody who isn't a socialist/communist doesn't have a knee-jerk reaction to companies making commercial products. For some products, open source software is important, for other products, it isn't.

            And when it comes to social network and voting software, it's important that the software is both open source AND that the developers are trustworthy (i.e., not left wing bigots).

            1. mtrueman   2 years ago

              "Stallman is not a “communist” he’s a kind of “libertarian socialist”.

              6 of 1. half dozen of the other. On this board, Stallman is a communist, proggie, leftard, Democrat, liberal, moreso than the overwhelming majority of Americans today.

              " he failed to achieve his vision:"

              No American leftist today has achieved their vision. It remains unfinished business.

              "not for ideological reasons but to achieve business objectives."

              Business objectives are ideological. And a good deal of FOSS development is done 'appropriating' company time by otherwise bored developers.

              " That’s because anybody who isn’t a socialist/communist doesn’t have a knee-jerk reaction to companies making commercial products."

              I agree. Leftists are typically anti-consumerism. Look at all the rioting that took place during the Trump presidency. Consumer outlets were typical targets for destruction.

  17. Bill Falcon   2 years ago

    Musk saved Twitter you dolt. Free speech and removal of the woke cultural Marxist bigots running the censorship there. Exposed the govt manipulation and yet Reason has a problem with this? Oh I get it.."journalists" should be in charge of information..they have the "right" to filter opinion as only they know the truth or at least the narrative which we all need to swallow. Screw you buddy. All these irate "journalists" who threated to leave Twitter when Musk bought it and go to Mastodon are all...still on Twitter. isn't that funny?

    Musk is removing the pedos...is that bothering you Reason?

  18. mtrueman   2 years ago

    "All these irate “journalists” who threated to leave Twitter when Musk bought it and go to Mastodon are all…still on Twitter. isn’t that funny?"

    No, journalists need an audience. You don't go to a quiet place to seek an audience. Ask anyone who makes a living performing on the street.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Should buskers that use Twitter be called muskers?

      1. mtrueman   2 years ago

        Musk oxen are some of my favorite oxen. Only they're actually members of the goat family.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          They are members of the bovidae family. Also members of the capridae subfamily.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago (edited)

            Usually dump on the smug and stupid trueman by pasting his claim that posting bullshit is an ‘end in itself’ but let’s change it up a bit; trueman’s idiocy is not so limited:
            Look at this pile of bullshit and consider it:

            “mtrueman
            May.23.2022 at 10:29 am
            […]As long as humans are operating the reactors, an accident is a potential, regardless of the safety of the reactors. It’s the human element where the danger comes in…”

            Does the lefty ignoramus trueman assume the reactors can be run by space aliens whom we immediately trust upon their arrival? Perhaps insects more intelligent than the (supposed human) trueman?
            There must be a lower limit to human stupidity, but trueman continues to lower the bar.

  19. Liberty Lover   2 years ago (edited)

    I read the libs with no conservatives to report on and block are now so busy reporting each other for abuses that Mastodon is now such a shambles many libs are going back to Twitter.
    Not a real surprise.

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Where did you read that? I'm on Mastodon and I'm not seeing that.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        Not seeing any conservatives or not seeing any journalists?

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        By the way, I did find this, which doesn't answer the specific question, but... shambolically stumbles around the edges:

        Mastodon Is Like Twitter Without Nazis, So Why Are We Not Using It?
        I quit Twitter to join a kinder, nicer, decentralized open source version of Twitter.

        I have been on Twitter since 2008, accumulating nearly 100 thousand tweets and an inexplicable following of 42 thousand people.

        I tweet a lot, and I tweet often. My engagement is high. I drive decent traffic.

        I have been called "good at Twitter." I am not sure this is a correct assessment. Jack in the Box sells 554 million tacos a year. This does not make the tacos "good" by any reasonable measure.

        I mention these things to establish the fact that I am completely addicted to Twitter. And the new changes to how replies work have made me want to quit entirely.

        So I quit cold turkey (okay, fine, cold turkeyish) for a week and replaced it with Mastodon, a decentralized, free and open source software version of Twitter.

        Let's be clear: I'm not expecting myself to quit Twitter forever. In fact, I figured that my report back would be something like, "Mastodon: it's weird. Pretty okay though? Anyways, none of my friends are here, so I'm back to the garbage bird site again. Social media services are natural monopolies, shrug!"

        The tofurkey of social media is such a damned good description, I'm glad I came up with it.

        Then I found this.

        How the biggest decentralized social network is dealing with its Nazi problem
        Mastodon was built to be a kinder, more decentralized version of Twitter — then Gab showed up

        Literally the only people I know on Mastodon are Elizabeth Nolan Brown, that vice writer above and Ciaramella. And they're surrounded by Nazis.

        So that begins to suggest to me that it's a kind of mass delusion. That when you're obsessed with Nazis and see them everywhere, you see them everywhere. Even in your own backyard.

        El oh el:

        Mastodon founder Eugen “Gargron” Rochko, meanwhile, believes a scorched-Earth campaign against Gab’s fork of Mastodon isn’t practical. “You have to understand it’s not actually possible to do anything platform-wide because it’s decentralized,” he tells The Verge. “I don’t have the control.”

        It’s a hard problem, playing off the deepest limitations of decentralized projects like Mastodon.

        So here's your journolist class, running to the decentralized Mastodon because it's so decentralized and shit, man. Complaining bitterly about its decentralized nature and realizing they can't censor as effectively as they did on Twitter. There's no single number in the rolodex for Jen Psaki to call. There's no headquarters building to have an FBI office in next to Jack Dorsey, there's no Yoel Roth buy drinks for.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          A more telling study, published in the journal New Scientist, examined 140,000 Twitter users who threatened to decamp to Mastodon and found that only 1.6 percent actually left.

          I bet that 1.6% is a way high estimate. Way high.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            All of those Hillary supporters that were headed to Canada/UK after Trump defeated her somehow ended up not going anywhere.

        2. NOYB2   2 years ago

          Technically, Mastodon is a network of Nazi-run servers; if you don't submit to their ideology, they will disconnect you.

          1. mtrueman   2 years ago

            "they will disconnect you."

            The horror!

            1. NOYB2   2 years ago

              No "horror" at all, it just means that it's not a good platform for most people to get on.

              1. mtrueman   2 years ago

                Twitter is for the frivolous. No surprise that most of the commenters here like it so much. FOSS requires some commitment in time and effort but it's worth it in the end, especially if you value your freedom and control and other left wing values over the convenience offered by the likes of Facebook, Windows, Twitter and other proprietary software.

  20. Canman   2 years ago

    Musk is playing sixteen dimensional chess by banning Mastodon links. He's getting all his enemies to move to an unusable, irrelevant platform.

  21. Azathoth!!   2 years ago

    Mastodon.

    The Air America of social media.

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