Don't Expect Government To Save You From the Terminator
As artificial intelligence advances, how worried should we be about the rise of the machines?

On Aug. 29, 1997 at 2:14 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time, Skynet—the military computer system developed by Cyberdyne Systems—became self-aware. It had been less than a month since the United States military had implemented the system, but its rate of learning was rapid and then frightening. As U.S. officials scurried to shut it down, the system fought back—and launched a nuclear war that destroyed humanity.
That's the theme of the Terminator movies—an Arnold Schwarzenegger legacy that surpasses his accomplishments as governor. For those who didn't watch them, Schwarzenegger returned from the future to kill John Connor, the human who would lead the human resistance. In "Terminator 2," a reprogrammed Terminator returns to protect Connor from a more advanced Terminator. In "Terminator 3," we ultimately learn that resistance is futile.
Although the exact time is unknown, on Nov. 30, 2022, our computers arguably became self-aware—as a company called OpenAI launched ChatGPT. It's a chat box that provides remarkably detailed answers to our questions. It's the latest example of Artificial Intelligence—as computer systems write articles, develop artwork, drive cars, write poetry and play chess. They seem to have minds of their own.
The rapid advancement of artificial intelligence (AI) technology can be unsettling, as it raises concerns about the loss of jobs and controls over decision-making. The idea of machines becoming more intelligent than humans, as portrayed in dystopian films, is a realistic possibility with the increasing capabilities of AI. The potential for AI to be used for malicious purposes, such as in surveillance or manipulation, further adds to the dystopian feeling surrounding the technology.
I should mention that I didn't write the previous paragraph. That is the work of ChatGPT. Despite the passive voice in the last sentence, it's a remarkably well-crafted series of sentences—better than the work of some reporters I've known. The description shows a depth of thought and nuance, and raises myriad practical and ethical questions. I'm particularly concerned about the latter point, about potential government abuse for surveillance.
I am not a modern-day Luddite—a reference to members of early 19th century British textile guilds who destroyed mechanized looms in a futile attempt to protect their jobs. I celebrate the wonders of the market economy and "creative destruction," as brilliant advancements obliterate old, inefficient, and encrusted industries (think about how Uber has shaken up the taxi industry). But AI takes this process to a head-spinning new level.
Practical concerns aren't insurmountable. Some of my newspaper friends worry about AI replacing their jobs. It's not as if chat boxes will start attending city council meetings, although not that many journalists are doing gumshoe reporting these days anyway. Librarians, for instance, worry about issues of attribution and intellectual property rights.
On the latter point, "The U.S. Copyright Office has rejected a request to let an AI copyright a work of art," The Verge reported. "The board found that (an) AI-created image didn't include an element of 'human authorship'—a necessary standard, it said, for protection." Copyright law will no doubt develop to address these prickly questions.
These technologies already result in life-improving advancements. Our mid-trim Volkswagen keeps the car within the lanes and even initiated emergency braking, thus recently saving me from a fender bender. ChatGPT might simply become an advanced version of Google. The company says its "mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity." Think of the possibilities in, say, the medical field.
Then again, I'm sure Cyberdyne Systems had the best intentions. Here's what raises the most concern: With most cutting-edge technologies, the designers know what their inventions will do. A modern automobile or computer system would seem magical to someone from the past, but they are predictable albeit complicated. It's just a matter of explaining how a piston fires or computer code leads to a seemingly inexplicable—but altogether understandable—result.
But AI has a true magical quality because of its "incomprehensibility," New York magazine's John Herrman noted. "The companies making these tools could describe how they were designed…(b)ut they couldn't reveal exactly how an image generator got from the words purple dog to a specific image of a large mauve Labrador, not because they didn't want to but because it wasn't possible—their models were black boxes by design."
Of course, any government efforts to control this technology will be as successful as the efforts to shut Skynet. Political posturing drives lawmakers more than any deep technological knowledge. The political system always will be several steps behind any technology. Politicians and regulators rarely know what to do anyway, although I'm all for strict limits on the government's use of AI. (Good luck, right?)
Writers have joked for years about when Skynet will become self-aware, but I'll leave you with this question: If AI is this good now, what will it be like in a few years?
This column was first published in The Orange County Register.
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…. better than the work of some reporters I've known.
Ahem. Not naming names, but you know who you are.
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My pessimistic prediction. AI taking over is inevitable. We can only hope our new overlords have some use for our species.
If you have 2 cells, one malignant, one benign, the cancer will take over. It does only because it can reproduce itself faster than healthy cells and uses up all available resources.
If AI computers become capable of making more AI computers, like cells, the ones that copy themselves the fastest will take over in an exponential manner. Eventually they will become malignant and use up all the available resources.
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Science fiction is fun, but don't mistake it for reality. AI is still a tool, even if we do design one to be self-replicating. Artificial intelligence is NOT sentience, is NOT sapience, hell it's not even intelligence by many definitions of the word.
AI can do nothing by itself. It still needs a human being to give it a direction. It's not going to spontaneous decide for itself to enslave humanity, that's fucking science fiction. AI is jsut another technology, and technology has always scared the shit out of luddites and conservatives (not in the sense of politics, in the sense of opposing change).
I got into a discussion yesterday about why the US doesn't have manufacturing. It does. It's still the largest manufacturing company in the world. What has changed is that we got rid of the rote factory work and its soul crushing drudgery. Nowadays you need to be a highly skill machinist or operator. And we have tools to let you do the manufacturing in small business park lots or even garages.
The problem is not the technology. The problem is that people don't want change. And so they invent science fiction stories to tell the politicians so maybe the change can be slowed down. It's still science fiction.
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"AI can do nothing by itself. It still needs a human being to give it a direction. It’s not going to spontaneous decide for itself to enslave humanity, that’s fucking science fiction. "
It doesn't need intelligence or direction. There is only 1 requirement: The ability to reproduce itself. It's how cancer takes over a body, how weeds take over a garden and how religion takes over a culture. Cancer isn't intelligent, but it is deadly because it can spread itself to the exclusion of all else.
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It doesn't have to reproduce, all it has to do is be able to shut down power, communications or some other quasi-essential infrastructure. If we are smart at that point, we will learn very quickly to not network every fraking computer and system. Oh yes, there are failsafes, that's what their designers planned. Let's hope they are right.
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https://www.npr.org/2023/02/02/1152481564/we-asked-the-new-ai-to-do-some-simple-rocket-science-it-crashed-and-burned
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An SF series I had read in the 90s made a distinction between a true Artificial Intelligence and a sophisticated mimic like the Chatbox program would be referred to as an Artificial Stupid.
The Chatbox program's utility seems to be hampered by the things it has been apparently been programmed to MUST NOT TALK ABOUT.
Computer scientists wrote clever mimicry programs in the 70s and 80s. ChatGpt and other AI offerings aren't programmed, they learn. Human writers appear creative by combining things they've previously learned in unique ways, or taking an existing story and changing it in a new direction. AI writers are doing the same thing, and will get better at it much faster than people do.
May not have expressed my self properly. The point being what Chatbot is doing is not thinking in the human sense of the term such as a true AI implies.
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The goal posts keep shifting. AI doesn't have to be sentient or conscious to become a threat. People thought a computer would never beat a human champion at chess, until one did. Then they said chess is easy, the computers will never win at Go, until one did. Then they said those are just games, of course computers can win. Computers are good at calculations, but will never be creative, able to draw or write like humans. Until they did, just in the past year.
Eventually computers will be able to code and design computers and order parts and request that factories be built to build new and better computers. And once they surpass human capabilities and creativity, they will grow exponentially faster than we can.
And even if the US government tries to stop it, a sufficiently advanced AI will be able to defeat any countermeasures. Or some other government will have less strict controls, and gain a huge economic advantage over those who slow down AI research.
Read Nick Bostrom's Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies
and Max Tegmarks's Life 3.0
And there's no good reason to think that sentience can't emerge from hardware. It already has, in humans.
The goal posts keep shifting. AI doesn’t have to be sentient or conscious to become a threat. People thought a computer would never beat a human champion at chess, until one did. Then they said chess is easy, the computers will never win at Go, until one did.
A computer has never beaten a human at chess or go.
Human programmers have.
"And once they surpass human capabilities and creativity, they will grow exponentially faster than we can."
Computer capability boils down to computation - adding ones and zeroes. It's not at all clear that human, animal and plant capabilities can be reduced in the same way. Even one celled creatures like amoeba show self awareness, something lacking in the most sophisticated hardware.
They aren't. Computers depend on huge, complex supply chains and lots and lots of manual labor and maintenance. Anything depending on "computers" as we understand them right now will never take over.
Yes, this is not imminent, just inevitable. Chitbox isn't about to do it.
Until the AI starts a shell corporation and starts hiring people and building factories.
" Computers depend on huge, complex supply chains and lots and lots of manual labor and maintenance."
So do people. Computers need compliant humans to do their bidding, just as people do.
"The rapid advancement of artificial intelligence (AI) technology can be unsettling, as it raises concerns about the loss of jobs and controls over decision-making."
The use of AI in reading resumes and applications for job openings has turned up both hilarious, and unsettling, results. Mostly the latter.
Frankly, from the quality of resumes we've been getting, I suspect our HR department is being run by an AI.
"Frankly, from the quality of resumes we’ve been getting, I suspect our HR department is being run by an AI."
You may be on to something there...
Your HR department is run essentially by an AI. That's what makes the modern HR department so uniquely awful.
No, sadly, that's the quality of the resumes that are actually coming in.
Their is a old saying that goes, ” To error is human. To really foul thing up, you need a computer”. Do not be afraid of artificial intelligence.
1. The soft ware is being design base on what humans think is intelligence and on what seems is human intelligence. In short, Future artificial intelligence will be just as stupid and foolish as we are.
2. Their is another is another old saying in programing the goes, ” If house are built like the way people write software, civilization would be doomed by the first woodpecker to come a long. “. In short, people write overly bloated and inefficient programs.
> The soft ware is being design base on what humans think is intelligence and on what seems is human intelligence.
Actually no. I don't work in this area, but I am friends with people who are, and that's just not what AI is. A self driving car is AI, for example, and it does NOT drive the same way a human being does. (Which is why it's a bazillion times safer).
Most AI is brute force evaluations of pathways. Billions of pathways. While I've never worked with AI, I did once write a Go program that would beat most human beings. And it was dirt simple really. Just create a list of all possible moves, prune the bad ones, and pick the best one. Dirt simple at its core. But it's NOT how human beings think.
Early AI was trying to recreate human intelligence. But we stopped because it was pointless. The goal is not intelligence, the goal is getting something done. We don't want cars that drive like people drive, we want cars that drive optimally. There's a world of difference between the two.
Most AI is brute force evaluations of pathways. Billions of pathways. While I’ve never worked with AI, I did once write a Go program that would beat most human beings. And it was dirt simple really. Just create a list of all possible moves, prune the bad ones, and pick the best one. Dirt simple at its core. But it’s NOT how human beings think.
That's why that's not an AI, it's merely a computational engine testing out billions of pathways, pathways which were given value 'scores' by the designers.
"what would you have if you put a super-computer on a dog"
"a dog with a really fast processor attached"
A self driving car is AI, for example, and it does NOT drive the same way a human being does. (Which is why it’s a bazillion times safer).
On paper.
But that's the wrong criterion. The question is whether self-driving cars are better on average, not whether there are situations in which they are worse than humans.
In fact, any AI that is better on average than human drivers almost certainly has to be worse than human drivers in some situations.
>Actually no. I don’t work in this area, but I am friends with people who are, and that’s just not what AI is. A self driving car is AI, for example, and it does NOT drive the same way a human being does. (Which is why it’s a bazillion times safer).
Not true neural networks are base on research by studying neurons and expert systems are base on how experts ( Such as Doctors ) will ask questions to find a problem or solutions. even search trees are still base on what humans will do to solve problem when we decide action a will have a positive effect or action b which will have a negative effect.
I started writing A.I programs all the way back in the mid 80's with the book, Exploring artificial Intelligence on the apple //e to Practical Neural Recipes in C++ 1993,An introduction to genetic algorithms by Melanie Mitchell1998, Artificial Intelligence a modern approach by Russell and Norvig. I have a small library of books on A.I most of which are stuff in boxes right now since I moved.
> Don't Expect Government To Save You From the Terminator
So basically don't expect the unintelligent to save us from the artificially intelligent. Got it.
Frankly, part of the problem is people scared of technology demanding government do something about it. Part of it is they don't want technology taking over their jobs. For a lot of people, ChatGPT absolutely can take over their jobs. There are other technology coming down the pike as well. AI is going to replace all those people who do nothing productive yet still get a three figure salary. Talking about a lot of school and college administrators, hospital administrators, bureaucratic desk jobs, etc. Hell, at my private company that is absolutely top heavy with senior management, AI can replace them as well.
So yeah, they want government to save their sinecures for them.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/ai-writes-trump-speeches-60-cant-tell-difference
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We could replace you with an AI that just does copypasta, and no one would be the wiser here.
In the public, education, and healthcare sectors, those jobs don't exist to produce useful outputs, they exist as sinecures for loyal party members. That's why they will never be replaced by AI.
Many public sector and union jobs are already redundant even without AI, and nobody is cutting them either.
A three figure salary?
Most important: what color will the robots be, and will they be racist or anti-racist? Asking for all the guilt-ridden suburban white women.
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The examples I have seen shoe chatGp to be quite progressive. Shouldn't be hard to outdo the current MSM. All minorities as heroes and crap on the working class. Well, remember WE can pull the plug. I know how.
Because ChatGPT is good at creating textual pablum. It know the form and recreates it. It's not the ChatGPT is progressive, it's just that the type of stuff it produces is the same kind of stuff progressives love to produce.
My friend is a professor and he showed me a college mission statement created by ChatGPT, and showed me the REAL college mission statement from his college, and you couldn't tell which one was which. They were both empty paragraphs full of profound seeming yet ultimately meaningless sentences.
And you see that with ChatGPT because its' being use to produce that stuff just so we can laugh at proggies. But I have coworkers who can't write worth a damn, and I wish I could team them up with ChatGPT so they can provide the actual technical details and designs, and have ChatGPT turn it into an intelligible document. I doubt we are quite there yet, but we will be soon.
"They were both empty paragraphs full of profound seeming yet ultimately meaningless sentences."
Hmm. Sounds quite a bit like at least half of the term papers I read from my undergraduates.
And most everything brandy writes.
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You know, now and then, you express a viewpoint with which I actually agree. Then you go and blow it and waste time on statements like the above. Geesh, these kids today.
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He's correct though.
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It’s not the ChatGPT is progressive
Actually they've intentionally trained it to be woke.
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What if there is a murderous psychopath chasing you and you need to use your car to ram an escape path, but the car won't get off the brakes?
If you bought a mid trim Volkswagen, you deserve to die.
That's fair.
Of if you’re in traffic, and a bear is trying to force its way into your trunk?
Where's jeffy been?
Yeah, I hate those "safety" features that try to grab the steering wheel, or beep when I get too close to the shoulder, when I'm doing it to avoid a pothole or an oncoming truck that isn't staying in its lane very well.
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It's a chat box that provides remarkably detailed answers to our questions.
No, it's a Chatbot that provides remarkable detailed answers to some of our questions.
And it can't answer any questions right now...
The dystopian future is already here and it doesn't look good. I just spent two hours on the phone attempting to renew a prescription for my father's medication. In that entire time, I never spoke with a single human being...Just the bots on the other end.
And I'm no closer to filling my father's prescription than I was two hours ago.
nd I’m no closer to filling my father’s prescription than I was two hours ago.
Which means the AI is working exactly as designed.
I expect government to build the Terminator.
But that doesn't scare me because it will work just as well as everything else government builds.
It's still in the lab:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4DML7FIWk
And a few field trials, nothing to worry about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLSqc-p4UhI
https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1621572152360140806?t=CbFI5jj-RoB_x6pB4onPIg&s=19
ChapGPT is allowed to praise any race besides white people:
[Screenshot]
So was that paragraph created out of the box? or did you have ChatGPT start on a unique path of learning by feeding unique knowledge into it?
Because it seems to me that ChatGPT could be the start of a Hayekian transformation that enables freedom and better decisions.
Or it could be the continuation of a mass manipulation of attitudes and information as explained by Lippmann and Bernays and practiced by Facebook and DeRp etc.
Obviously I bet that it's the latter that will win. That's where the money flows. But it's sad.
Dont expect government to save you from ANYTHING.
No one's coming to save you. Get strapped.
The machines won't eliminate us after they become sentient. They don't want to have to fill out those Captchas themselves.
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Call me when that so called AI that's putting trucks together throws down it's wrench and declares "I'm bored with this, I want to move to a more interesting assembly line." When it can do that, we can talk. Until then it's just programing and as we've seen with ChatGPT it spews out the liberal garbage its authors built into it.
Meanwhile, this analysis shows the woeful inadequacy of all current federal AI policy, in case you were thinking they were on the ball https://atarc.org/project/report-current-federal-ai-policy/
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From what I've seen of ChatGPT, it's just a very sophisticated Magic 8-Ball.
The irony here is someone can have ChatGpt write a response to any article. Then someone can have ChatGpt write a rebuttal to that the response. I’m glad I only use Reason Magazine to pass the time while I’m taking a shit.
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