SCOTUS Will Decide Whether Federal Law Shields a Religious Postal Employee Who Refuses To Work on Sundays
The Supreme Court considers the scope of federally required religious accommodations at work.

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits employment discrimination "because of…religion." The U.S. Supreme Court recently agreed to hear a case that asks whether that law requires the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) to accommodate a religious postal employee who refuses to work on Sundays.
The case is Groff v. DeJoy. Gerald Groff is a former mail carrier who quit the USPS after being disciplined for refusing to work on Sundays. He argues that he was entitled to a religious accommodation under both Title VII and the Equal Employment Opportunity Act of 1972, which amended the 1964 Civil Rights Act by defining "religion" as including "all aspects of religious observance and practice, as well as belief, unless an employer demonstrates that he is unable to reasonably accommodate to an employee's or prospective employee's religious observance or practice without undue hardship on the conduct of the employer's business."
It was no "undue hardship," Groff and his lawyers maintain, for the USPS to have accommodated Groff's Sunday Sabbath observances. "The 1972 amendment to Title VII aimed to ensure that no worker must make the cruel choice of surrendering their faith or their job," they told the Court. "On its face, the statute provides robust protections for religious employees—after all, 'undue hardship' suggests that an employer must incur significant costs or difficulty before it is excused from offering an accommodation."
Groff lost last year before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit, which held that granting him a workplace religious accommodation would have imposed an undue hardship on the USPS. Groff's refusal to work on Sundays, the appellate court said, "created a 'tense atmosphere'" as other workers "had to work more Sundays to cover Groff's absences," which itself created "resentment towards management." The court further stated: "Groff's absence also required the other carriers to deliver more mail than they otherwise would have on Sundays."
The 3rd Circuit based its decision in significant part on Trans World Airlines v. Hardison (1977), in which the Supreme Court said that requiring an employer "to bear more than a de minimis cost" to make a religious accommodation "is an undue hardship." Religious activists, including social conservatives, maintain that Hardison unduly favors employers over workers. Groff and his lawyers argue that the Court "should revisit and disapprove Hardison's definition of undue hardship."
At least three members of the current Supreme Court seem ready to side with Groff and toss Hardison by the wayside. In 2020, the Court declined to hear a similar case about religious accommodations at work. Writing in concurrence, Justice Samuel Alito, joined by Justices Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch, agreed that the Court was right to ignore that one but, "in an appropriate case," the Court should "consider whether Hardison's interpretation should be overruled." According to Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch, "Hardison's reading does not represent the most likely interpretation of the statutory term 'undue hardship.'"
Assuming those three justices can attract at least two more votes, which I suspect they probably can, Hardison looks like it could be scrapped in favor of a statutory interpretation that expands the scope of federally required religious accommodations at work.
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You can't force your religious nuttery on anybody else. If the job said sunday might be worked in the job description , it's your own fault for taking that job. Go work somewhere else. You are free to have whatever flavor religion you want, but it's YOUR problem ... not anyone else's.
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How is this a difficult accommodation? Historically they didn't send mail on Sundays. Now they do so it is a job change. There are 7 days in a week. Seems a menial accommodation to make.
Then it would fit the Hardison test and it wouldn't have to be overturned.
But everyone knows the Post Office doesn't deliver mail on Sundays.
That doesn't mean they don't sort on Sundays.
Admit it, Shrike, you only give a shit because of your anti-theist hardon. If this guy was a Satanist or Wiccan celebrating goat-sacrifice day or whatever you'd be shouting about his rights from the hilltops.
Since when has taking Sunday shifts mandatory with USPS? They've only been delivering mail and especially pacages on Sindays since the godless outfit run by Jeffie started delivering any day any hour any where. He treats his peons like dirt.
Since they must pay a conderable overtime/holiday pay I can't really believe tat NO ONE ELSE wantts to take up the mostrous pile of slack left when he does not work on Sundays. I'd like to see th complaints and requests from others to not work Sundays, and the complaints from others based SOLELY on taking up the "slack" left when he is not on the schedule.
I kniw folks have been working for USPS since long before they ever delivered in sundays. Don't know whether they now take Sinday shifts. I DO know they charge a significant extra fee for Sunday delivery. What percentage of that goes to the poor sap wearing out his shoes to DO those Snday deliveries?
What if a moslem worker demanded saturdays off? Maybe he could trade with this guy. One would have Sunday is sixth day the other Saturday. But it seems USPS ought to be smart enough to figure it out. Seven days times twelve hours per day is a LOT of time. If a standard work week remained 40 hours, and I'm sure it does, they are paying a LOT of overtime.Cheaper to hire ,ore workers and manage the workweek schedules.
I smell some really stinky and vindictive supes going postal on this guy and making him "pay" for his desire to remain true to his chosen faith. Or, more accurately, to the faith to which he was chosen.
I have postal workers in the family. If your shift is Sunday and part of your forty hour work week you don't get overtime. The post office always ran seven days a week 24 hours a day even when they didn't deliver mail on Sunday.
No one is forcing their religion on anyone in this case. There are ZERO positions at the USPS that anyone would even notice if NO ONE did them on Sundays.
Note: As the name of a day of the week, Sunday is capitalized in proper English.
Was he worshiping on Sunday before he took the job?
Did he hire on recently enough that the USPS was already working on Sunday?
Can he worship hard enough to accept that God will lead him to a different job?
Is the final solution to go back to 'blue laws' that require all business to close from sundown Friday until sunrise Monday?
(what religions consider other than Sat or Sun as the sabbath?)
What about feast days and other worship occasions besides the weekly sabbath?
So many questions, so little journalism.
These were some of my questions. If hired before Sunday work became a requirement or not informed of a Sunday work requirement should he be punished? If hired knowing that there possibly would be a Sunday work requirement did he agree and then change his mind? Did he become religious some time after and now wants Sundays off? A little more background of the case would be helpful.
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Please do BASIC research. "Blue" laws did not require anything to close all day on Saturday or to remain closed until sun up on Monday. At most, they limited what businesses can do on Sunday. Many didn't even apply all day on Sunday.
Government employees refuse to preform work if it's on the wrong day of the week; but insist they're still *entitled* to get regularly paid by collective-robbery.
Yeah; Well my religion of Communism insists that any day is the wrong day of the week to *EARN* a paycheck and that all pay must be collectively-robbery. /s
If you're not going to do the work required of you; you don't get a paycheck....... How hard is that to comprehend. Good grief; even the religious have to deal with it. You don't get to stop feeding the cows just because it's Sunday.
Prior to the advent of self-adhesive stamps, the USPS would recommend:
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52 Sundays is not a accommodation. It's called gold bricking. If he wins, I expect a dozen new religions to appear within months of the decision. Will atheists seek equal protection so they too, must be accommodated?
Dozens? We only need six more — and the Jews have one of them already covered.
“Boss, I’m a practicing Thursday-tarian...”
So what's the problem if a dozen new religions crop up with different days of rest?
If my religions says not to work on Wednesdays then that means I'll gladly work on Sundays, and the Christian who doesn't work on Sundays will have no qualms about working Wednesdays. There is zero burden to the 7-day-a-week business to accommodate that.
Even without such a hypothetical, as long as the majority of workers don't mind working any given day, there is zero actual burden.
Once your entire crew demands Sunday's off, are you then allowed to fire the last one to complain?
Or I can object to paying taxes/fees/tarriffs due to my devout Randian religious beliefs. I don't think they can rule in his favor on 1st amendment grounds. If anything, he needs to find a reason in his employment contract to argue for having Sundays off. I used to go into work an hour late when pushed to work Sundays. He should be negotiating with him employer or finding a new job, not filing a dubious lawsuit
What we're all waiting for is a case where a Quaker USPS manager refuses to let an employee bring a gun into work.
Here's a stupid question: What work does the USPS do on Sundays that would require him there? I know they don't deliver on Sundays, therefore, if he's a mail carrier, then why should he be working on a Sunday at all? Would not he have a reasonable expectation, as a mail carrier, not to work on a Sunday as the USPS does not deliver mail on Sundays?
Not stupid at all, it's my question too. If he worked at a sorting facility, or driving long haul trucks, I'd not wonder. But letter carrier? Did they ever deliver on Sundays? I bet not even in the 1800s.
It started back when Amazon contracted with the USPS in 2013, and part of that partnerships required some Sunday deliveries in peak season. Yes, this is another case of big tech partnering with government. In most places in the country, the USPS works on Sundays from November to January.
USPS does deliver packages on Sundays sometimes, like in December when they are trying to keep up with the volume.
I live in a relatuvely low population area, and since Amazon started their own delivery system I cannot recall any Sinday when I have not seen those dumpy little mail trucks out makng deliveries.Not sure whether its letters or pcages, does not matter those trucks can carry both , and do. I've also seen on the price posters inside the PO that they DO deiiver anything on Sundays and charge twelve dollars fifty extra to do so. Does the delivery guy get an extra spiff per dlivery when he works on Sindays, or just the double time normally given for such scheduling?
I've long thought the postal service should double that surcharge for Sunday dleivery. Anyone too lazy or busy to hop in the car and beat it on down to WallyWorkd TarrGett, Kohl's, or Fred Meyer on Sunday can pop the extra two bits to get it n Sunday.
Actually, there are two situations in which they do. The USPS-Amazon delivery contract includes Sunday package deliveries in non-rural areas; the USPS also does "Priority Express" deliveries on Sundays.
Presumably postal workers aren't expected to work 7 days a week, so that would mean they each have 1-2 days off each week. Then it shouldn't be a difficult accommodation to allow Groff to take Sunday as one of those day every week.
If others "had to work more Sundays to cover Groff's absences," then logically Groff must be working more non-Sundays to cover their absences, since others would be taking their 1-2 days off on other days.
Similarly if Groff taking Sundays off "required the other carriers to deliver more mail than they otherwise would have on Sundays" then it follows that Groff is required to deliver more mail on non-Sundays when he works and someone else is off.
All in all, I don't see how this is an unreasonable accommodation.
It's not unreasonable; Hardison will go.
Because defaultdotxbe is logically correct, it isn't even necessary to overturn the "de minimus" standard to rule in favor of Groff in this case.
Thats where I'm at too. I dont see this as a difficult accommodation.
But everyone wants Sunday off. It's not fair to other employees. Why does this dude get special treatment?
Closely watching this case are adherents of a religious denomination known as "Leftism", which believes that all work conflicts with their beliefs.
The joke will be on them, since the vast majority of the federal workforce is leftist. I won't be upset that they shut down weekly.
If you can't refuse a vaccine, how can they justify refusing to work on Sundays?
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First Amendment? Free exercise thereof? The USPS is hardly a private company.
The entire Bill of Rights is not specifically directed at government. My right to freely exercise my religion is NOT to be infringed... by anyone or anything. Nor is my right to arms. Nor my right to be secure in my house, person papers, effects. Yes those limitations were primarily directed at government, as the Founding generation had just endured, and thrown off, decades of abuse by the Brits and attempted to make certain those enumerated rights would remain inviolate. FBI, city coppers, county sheriff nor YOU have any liberty to enter MY place without warrant.
If this employee was a mother who said she couldn't start work before 9:30 AM because she has to drop her child off at school, would the USPS still be in this lawsuit?
Worst case scenario: most businesses close on Sunday (as Chick-fil-A does). Ok? I don't see that as a problem.
Back when I was a young Nova Scotian, that's how it was. That was changed almost 20 years ago now but in my area it took a while before it fully happened across the board.
Privatize the USPS. Problem solved.
"can you work Sundays?"
"No".
"Ok thanksbi"
That would help stamp out problems such as these.
Assuming they were addressed.
Hopefully to the letter.
It will all sort itself out, as time zips by.
Do you people want to privatize longstanding public services because you actually think they'd be better services once chasing after quarterly profits, or do you just hate having giant counterexamples to your silly little worldview hanging around?
"you people" lol.
privatizing the USPS is not even remotely an extreme libertarian position to hold.
I suppose that's true. Still dumb and completely without rational justification.
You’re not interested in getting junk mail delivered more efficiently?
I think that's all the mail Tony gets in his mother's basement.
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I'm interested in not getting it delivered less efficiently, which is what the private sector does to everything almost by definition.
Profit incentives add a layer of inefficiency to what otherwise could be a nice, planned operation with a genuine goal.
If that goal is to create government jobs, we agree.
And yet, UPS and FedEx somehow manage to be far more efficient than the USPS when it comes to packages. Profit provides a motive for efficiency there, socialist.
Citation needed. The USPS will deliver a Christmas card to the outer reaches of Alaska for $0.63, which is neither a task nor a price those companies would even contemplate. So it's apples and oranges.
What does "package" mean to you? It's obviously not a letter or a card which the USPS still pretty much has a monopoly on. Are you terminally stupid?
And much more expensive. Also not much more efficient
less efficiently, which is what the private sector does to everything almost by definition.
no chance you are being earnest here.
He isn't. It's Tony. Need I say more?
It's time you were disabused of your quasi-racist Reagan-era platitudes about the difference between the public sector and private sector.
For some reason nobody ever talks about those lazy soldiers inefficiently bombing foreign petrostates.
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Right. Literally nobody thinks the military lacks financial accountability, every single cent is being used appropriately. Who ever heard of soldiers selling material on the black market? Certainly nobody ever heard of a military that accidentally left billions of dollars worth of gear, ammunition, equipment, and weapons when leaving a country. Because they're just too efficient to let so much as an ink pen go to waste, isn't that true?
So we should turn over military operations to the private sector?
We should just cut it to where it focuses on defending the nation and not conducting imperialism.
what part of "problem solved" did y ou not understand?
Every counterexample shows that competing private companies deliver better, faster, more efficient and friendlier service, at lower prices than any government agency ever has. Of course we want the Post Office privatized.
Just one example (among many):
If I want to drop off a package for shipment before work, the local FedEx and UPS stores are open at 7:30 AM. The local post office opens at 8:30 AM, and then there will be a line. If I'm supposed to be at work by 8 AM, what do I do? Can't drop it off after work either, the Post Office closes at 5.
And then, *gasp*, the UPS and FedEx outlets are open until 8 or 9 pm. That allows one to drop it off after work as well. I also don't get a surly attitude when I use UPS or FedEx. I do at the post office.
So the conservatives think that it should be OK for someone's religious protections to impose more than de minimis costs on employers (and fellow employees)? How long before we're being taxed expressly to fund churches?
History and the political good are quite subjective, but I don't think there's much serious debate, other than what's been invented out of thin air by religious activists, that the Founders wanted a secular state with the goal of diminishing the role religion plays in public life.
It's particularly absurd, though perhaps not surprising, that this is all happening as the American population rapidly sheds religious affiliations.
Now do ADA laws.
And bathrooms
Oh, Tony told us a week or two ago that men should enter the women's bathroom (and locker room) as long they simply say they're women. Did I also mention the complete and total misunderstanding of biology that Tony has?
I understand plenty about biology and more about language. "Men" and "women" are just words we use to approximate the biology of other people. I don't know about you, but I don't go around lifting people's skirts to confirm, and neither should the state. But then I do believe in freedom from the state.
No they aren't just words.
I know truth and meaning is meaningless to dregs like you, luckily we don't set standards to your level.
Everything's just words. Furthermore, everything, including words, are just approximate constructs inside your own head.
The universe doesn't give a microscopic fuck about your categories. You just can't handle learning about a world that is any different from how you were taught it was when you were a young child.
Guess what. Santa isn't real either. Don't have a stroke.
No, Tony, words have meaning whether you and your post-modernist self like it or not. Not everything is relative.
And where is this meaning found? Which is the language of the cosmos, and upon what cosmic fabric is it sewn?
Words mean exactly and only what people say they mean. Sometimes there's a universal consensus, sometimes a broad one, and sometimes there's controversy. It's certainly no reason to bring down the almighty club of the state on children's genitals.
Again, words have a meaning. And you are doofus.
You sound like you're trying to convince yourself.
Got some hardcore biology links to share for that, Tony? I mean actual peer-reviewed journals by biologists.
You haven't remotely touched upon a subject that's studied by biologists. You've perhaps talked about linguistics by trying to assert an absolute definition of words in the English language. That's only allowed in French.
Again, got any real peer-reviewed biology links for us, or are you just blowing smoke?
Nobody is talking about biology. They're just saying the word.
None of you right-wing morons knows anything about biology you didn't learn in fucking 5th grade. It's embarrassing watching you psychotic freaks pretend to know about science after spending decades sticking your fingers in your ears and hoping it goes away.
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I'd entertain the idea of classifying religious belief as a disability.
You have a mental disability.
You’d have to change 1A. Until recently, homosexuality was and you aren’t doing that decision any favors.
Homosexuality is only a burden because of religion. In principle, homosexuality is a great boon to individual ability, while religion always turns people into frumpy assholes who do stupid things.
But religion taught folks to turn the other cheek.
Is this a butt sex joke? Boy, between this and "socialism starved the Chinese," we could get a whole comedy set going straight from 1980.
Are you people all 85 years old? Is this the problem? Should I just wait around a while?
China was secular at the time of the Great Leap Forward starvation.
Secular except for the cult of personality.
No true Scotsman.
Not really. You're trying to paint an overtly anti-Enlightenment project--a cult of personality--as the product of Enlightenment principles. It's lazy, it's tired, it's stupid, and it comes from religious freaks who are trying to distract from the absolutely gobsmackingly vast oceans of blood that have been spilled in service of their equally idiotic nonsense.
What's the upshot? Defend what you want to defend instead of grave-robbing these asinine talking points. Do you think the United States would be better off as a Christian theocracy?
"So the conservatives think that it should be OK for someone’s religious protections to impose more than de minimis costs on employers (and fellow employees)?"
Clearly Congress thought so when the law was written. More than de minimis cost = undo burden is an absurd interpretation of the statutory text.
If you don't like it, go complain to Congress.
>>go complain to Congress
word is that'll get you no trial and life in solitary
The 1970s Supreme Court had a really hard time with the idea of actually paying any attention to the actual text of laws, to the utter delight of people like Tony who prefer rule by an ideologically-congenial oligarchy to the messy process of representative democracy.
False premise. It is no more than a de minimis cost for someone have to have a day off each week.
That's really the issue isn't it?
No more of an issue than a standard 5 day workweek. Or are we just tossing out workers' rights because we have an opportunity to own the Christians?
See my post above, if we are operating in the framework of a 5 day workweek then any Sunday that Groff takes off will be covered when he works another day that someone else takes off, so there is no cost to other employees. Similarly, if everyone gets 2 days off you can hardly argue a more than de minimis cost to the employer to actually give someone those days off.
Alternatively perhaps the USPS demands 7 day workweeks, in which case I think that opens up a whole other discussion as to whether that is reasonable in the first place.
Lastly I suppose you could argue a cultural significance to Sundays off, meaning they should be shared equally, however since the tradition of Sundays off derives from the Christian sabbath any importance you argue for Sundays off can only ever make it more important to a devout and observant Christian.
I absolutely approach cases like this with a bias toward minimizing the role and number of Christians in society.
If I were a betting man, I'd wager you're a big-time anti-Christian bigot. Gotta wonder if you have Islamophobia and are antisemitic as well.
I am bigoted against the forms of stupidity that kept continents awash in blood for millennia and threaten to keep doing it except with nukes.
Regular stupids who don't harm anyone are all right by me.
Secular China and the Soviets are on line 1.
Yes, 20th century atrocities in China and the Soviet Union were definitely caused by secularism.
If only those psychotic autocrats had found Jesus, it all could have been prevented.
Another strawman. Shill harder.
Yes, socialism and bloodshed seem to go hand in hand.
You people's flaccid, lazy talking points sure do make a nice, comfy substitute for actual thoughts, huh?
Irrelevant authority.
Yep, you're just another asshole woke bigot.
Awesome. 7 day workweek or no job for you. We may be undoing over a century of labor rights but at least we're sticking it to those stupid Jesus freaks!
where dafuq is the mail delivered on Sundays?
The USPS-Amazon delivery contract includes Sunday package deliveries in non-rural areas; the USPS also does "Priority Express" deliveries on Sundays.
shut my mouth.
Depending on the terms of his contract, I’m with the post office on this one.
The problem seems to be that "everyone" wants Sunday off.
So if you accommodate this person, then you have to accommodate everyone, and then it's a hardship.
There's approximately zero scenario where I would rely on the USPS for a package that were so important it had to be delivered on a Sunday.
So I find myself questioning the whole premise.
Charge more for people who expect quick deliveries over weekends and on Sundays. Then raise pay for people willing to work Sundays. Then pay even more if you can't find people. And if you still can't find people, stop offering Sunday delivery.
But government isn't a business, so they don't try to operate according to the rules of supply and demand.
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