North Dakota Legislators Consider Bill To Ban 'Sexually Explicit' Material From Public Libraries
"If you don't like a book, don't read it. The First Amendment's guarantee of the freedom of speech and the right to access information has created a beautiful marketplace of ideas in our country," said one ACLU representative opposing the bill.

On Tuesday, legislators in North Dakota began considering a bill that would ban "sexually explicit" material from public libraries in the state—and levy up to 30 days of imprisonment for those who refuse to comply with the law. The bill has already drawn the ire of civil liberties groups, who point out its blatantly unconstitutional provisions. If passed, the bill would ban broad swaths of literature—though almost none of it could be considered legally obscene.
"Nearly 50 years ago, the Supreme Court set the high constitutional bar that defines obscenity—a narrow, well-defined category of unprotected speech that excludes any work with serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value," reads a press release from the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of North Dakota. "Since then, few if any books have been deemed obscene."
The bill was introduced last week by House Majority Leader Mike Lefor (R–Dickinson.) If passed, the bill would ban any "business establishment frequented by minors, or where minors are or may be invited as a part of the general public," including public walkways, from displaying any visual material "which exploits, is devoted to, or is principally made up of depictions of nude or partially denuded human figures posed or presented in a manner to exploit sex, lust, or perversion for commercial gain." Further, the bill provides a list of acts and ideas that it considers "sexually explicit"—a list which includes "sexual identity," "gender identity," and perhaps most confusingly, "sex-based classifications."
It provides exceptions for "works of art that, when taken as a whole, have serious artistic significance, or works of anthropological significance, or materials used in science courses, including materials used in biology, anatomy, physiology, or sexual education classes." Further, in an unusual departure from similar book-banning pushes, the proposed law explicitly exempts any "school" from the law, meaning that school libraries will still be able to provide banned materials.
Though the bill applies to a broad range of locations, it seems to have been explicitly created to ban certain "sexually explicit" books from public libraries. On Tuesday, Lefor told The Bismarck Tribune that he drafted the bill after seeing nude drawings in the graphic novel Let's Talk About It: The Teen's Guide to Sex, Relationships, and Being a Human. "I think the content of it is disgusting, that at the very least, public libraries should put it in a restricted area where [children] need to get permission from their parents to take a book out like this," Lefor said. "This is not a way to raise our kids, and we have to do everything we can to make sure that this doesn't get into the hands of children, especially without their parents' knowledge."
Legislators began formally considering the legislation on Tuesday. According to KFYR, a local news station, 63 of the 73 pieces of testimony submitted to the bill's committee were in opposition to the bill.
"Why does the North Dakota Public Library, funded with taxpayer dollars, need to purchase and promote obscene and pornographic material? What is the social redeeming value in doing that? How does that make our state better?" testified one resident.
In opposition, Cody Schuler, an advocacy manager with the ACLU of North Dakota, said, "Each of us gets to choose what books we read and what information we access. But we don't get to choose that for other people. Doing so is un-American and unconstitutional."
As Schuler notes, the bill is blatantly unconstitutional. The Supreme Court has long held a very strict definition of obscenity—one that clearly conflicts with the ban proposed by Lefor's bill. In the 1973 case Miller v. California, the Supreme Court defined material as legally obscene if "(1) the average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest; (2) the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law; and (3) the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value."
However, much of what would be banned by Lefor's bill does not meet this definition—not only would the graphic novels and sex education books that seem to be the target of the bill be constitutionally protected but so too would other expression targeted by the law—like depictions of gay or transgender people, which might be banned for showing "sexual" or "gender identity."
"There are some books you will think children shouldn't read and some books that you hope no one will read. But we are steadfast in our belief that we do not get to decide what others read – and neither should the government," Schuler said in the ACLU press release. "If you don't like a book, don't read it. The First Amendment's guarantee of the freedom of speech and the right to access information has created a beautiful marketplace of ideas in our country."
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As Schuler notes, the bill is blatantly unconstitutional.
Mhh-hmm.
the average person, applying contemporary community standards,
Anyone want to point to Emma or the ACLU the obvious hole in their logic?
Yeah, not stocking sexual explicit books isn't unconstitutional. Not stocking any particular type of book in a public library isn't unconstitutional. It might be bad for other reasons, but not against the first amendment.
Again, the law doesn't even prevent the library from stocking the books. The law just says you can't take sexually explicit photos out of one of the books, blow them up to a series of 2'x3' posters and hang them in the children's section to advertise the book.
The book sitting on the shelf in the human sexuality section of the library appears, superficially and by Emma's own telling, to be entirely compliant with the law.
Actually according to the bill, it does prevent the library from stocking the books.
A public library may not maintain in its inventory or promote books that make as their primary subject the study of explicit sexual material.
An individual who believes a public library is maintaining a book in violation of subsection 2 may submit a written request to the public library to remove the book from its inventory.
A public library shall remove the book requested for removal within thirty days of receiving the request.
A public library may not maintain in its inventory or promote books that make as their primary subject the study of explicit sexual material
I know word books and other walls of text are difficult for retards like you to digest, but the law is pretty clear even with just a few words:
Letter of the law, they *could* make a mural of all the written pages of 50 Shades Of Grey and not be guilty (as long as the words weren't shaped to depict nudity and maybe even then it would have artistic significance).
You dumb, lying fuck.
Explain this then....Is he speaking of pictures. Describe is not a word I associate with something visual.
House Majority Leader Mike Lefor, of Dickinson, introduced the bill and said public libraries currently contain books that have "disturbing and disgusting" content, including ones that describe virginity as a silly label and assert that gender is fluid.
Show me the VISUAL obscenity in this book they want included in the ban?
Stark County resident Autumn Richard also spoke in favor of the bill, giving examples of explicit content in the graphic novel "Let’s Talk About It: The Teen’s Guide to Sex, Relationships, and Being a Human" and the kids' comic book "Sex Is a Funny Word" — both available in public libraries.
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1984893149/reasonmagazinea-20/
First, I'm not responsible for your illiteracy. Maybe visit a library and use something other than the picture books:
Second, again, I'm not responsible for your illiteracy, maybe read the bill and show me where the word 'describe' or 'description' appears.
Third, to be clear, I'm not responsible for your illiteracy, what a resident says they would like to see done and what's actually enacted and enforced by the law are entirely separate things. Just because you and Autumn Richard are in the same boat and really, really want the bill to ban "Sex Is A Funny Word" doesn't mean the bill actually does that.
Finally, to be thoroughly clear, I don't care that you're illiterate. I do care that you're here trying to foist the consequences of your stupidity on other people.
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You seem confused by the fact that there are two sections of the bill. The first section is basically as you describe. It only covers the promotion of books and does address the book just sitting around on the shelf, not being promoted.
However, the second section of the bill seems to do exactly what DeAnnP says. The first portion prohibits libraries from maintaining or promoting certain books that have any sort of illustration that is "explicit sexual material." And it defines "explicit sexual material" as including sexual "sexual identity and sexual preference." So under this section it is illegal for a library to stock "Heather has Two Mommies," an illustrated children's book whose main character is raised by a lesbian couple.
Then there is a further section that says "A public library may not maintain in its inventory or promote books that make as their
primary subject the study of explicit sexual material." This does not mention visual depiction or illustration at all. So your hypothetical poster made of pages of "50 Shades of Grey" might be prohibited by this portion. Again, it DeAnnP appears to have the right of it. It also isn't clear what "primary subject" means, but I expect that censorious people will say that any work with any sexuality in it at all qualifies.
In general you seem confused by the idea that a bill can pass multiple rules at the same time, and seem to think that because the first portion of the bill didn't do what its critics said, they were wrong about the whole thing. Or that they were "illiterate" and "retards," as you so charmingly put it. I would recommend against repeatedly smugly insulting people who disagree with you. It makes it way worse when it turns out that they were right and you were wrong.
@GhatanathoahYou seem confused by the fact that there are two sections of the bill.
I’m not confused. Just as DeAnnP, you’re demonstrating your willingness to be equally retarded. I quoted the definition from Section 2. The (root) words 'text' and 'verb' don't appear anywhere in the document. As in, verbal descriptions of anything are completely unaddressed. Just because you (two) can’t read that far and comprehend what you’ve read at the same time doesn’t mean other people can’t or shouldn’t.
Whether it's because you (two) want to sexualize children or need imaginary hyper-puritan boogeymen to feel oppressed, or both, I don't care. You've found your hill, now shut up and fucking die on it already.
You are such a juvenile asshole. Someone disagrees with you so you resort to ad hominem attacks. Time will tell who is interpreting it correctly. Once we see the actions of the people not only supporting removing books from the library, but throwing people in jail over it, and exactly which titles and content is under scrutiny. Meanwhile fuck off.
I didn't resort to ad hominems because you disagreed with me. I resorted to ad hominems because you can't read and claim to be able to read minds and predict the future. If you didn't want the fight to get personal, you should've stuck to the text of the bill. I'm not the juvenile asshole just because you want to be able to sneak pornography into the kids' section of
yoursomeone else's local library and cry "Not fair! You're ruining my life!" when someone says, "Hey! You can't do that here!"Libertarians aren’t in Emma’s camp.
Good thing her last name is not Pants.
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The hole I note is that, once again, it doesn’t actually ban books. It just requires, like any other supermarket, bookstore, or video rental business (look it up, Zoomer), libraries refrain from putting the adult materials up front at the checkout counter or mixed in with the children’s fiction materials.
Even if it did, it does so only narrowly. The Birth of Venus mural painted on the ceiling of the foyer and miniature replica of David sitting on the checkout lady’s desk, while creepy, are OK, the copies of Hustler on full display next to the Pokemon and Minecraft guides in the kids’ section is not.
Or graphic depictions of underage boys sucking dick, which is in one of the books at the center of these controversies
Right. I continue to be utterly baffled as to why Reason goes to bat so disingenuously and consistently in order to run cover for such unabashed pedophilia.
Certain of the editors philosophical crushes on Foucault and de Beauvoir?
Shrike approves of such content. He even tried to showcase that here.
The government should be able to decide what is available in public and school libraries, since you know, they’re part of the government.
What Half-Price book sells? Not so much.
And, even then, if you're going to have a notion of "We need to protect people who can't consent." in line with Bill Dalasio's point about curation below, you're still going to have to make "Material for people who can consent." and "Material for people who can't consent" distinctions.
Eliminate public libraries. Problem solved.
Incorrect. As seen with the drag queen performances at bars vs. actual strip clubs. The pro-pedophile brigade will look at pretty much any law regulating anything*, add their own personal pedophiliac spin, and pretend they didn’t know that *that* was breaking the law.
Law: It’s illegal to serve alcohol to minors, (varyingly) even in your own home. It’s (varyingly) illegal to sell alcohol in the presence of nude performers/sex workers. It’s (varyingly) illegal for adults to perform nude/sex work. It’s illegal to have children in the presence of nude performers/sex workers. It’s (varyingly/generally) illegal to have children in the presence of nude amateurs. Kids, alcohol, nudity/sex work, pick *one* at a time.
Pro-pedophile brigade: What if the nude performers/sex workers are men pretending to be women and we don’t serve alcohol to the minors? That’d be OK, right?
*Edited note: “men’s” and Women’s sports.
The main issue with this is that the pro-pedophile brigade does not actually exist. You completely made them up. Or to be slightly more charitable, you falsely accused completely harmless people of being in favor of pedophiles because… I’m not really sure why. I guess you just really like hurting innocent people for no good reason.
Drag shows are not the same thing as strip shows. What would the point of that even be? If a man pretending to be a woman takes off all his clothes it would spoil the illusion. Drag shows are just weird fashion shows where sometimes the performers engage in some PG-13 rated flirting, but nothing really objectionable.
I would say you made a stupid mistake by not realizing that, but I don’t want to give you that much credit. “Stupid” implies someone is mentally incapable of understanding something. You did something much worse. You were mentally capable of understanding something, but then chose to not understand it, because you really, really like falsely accusing people of promoting pedophilia.
Oh for fucks sake, you do no service to the pro liberty cause by dissembling and obfuscating.
"Drag shows are not the same thing as strip shows."
No, and no one said they were "the same thing". But folks like you seem to love making up strawmen because...well, I don't know why.
No reasonable person looking at a Drag Show where a man is dressed in sexually suggestive clothes, makes sexually suggestive dance moves and says "there's nothing really objectionable here". When they entice an 8-year-old to put money in their g-string, and then invite the kids to do the same dance moves, a person like myself finds plenty to object to. I understand that some people might fall differently along those lines, but it is outright dishonest to suggest that there is nothing to potentially object to.
If you want to argue for the cause of liberty, then fucking argue for the cause of liberty. Say "I think parents should have the right to take pre-teens to sexually charged bars where they are exposed to everything they'd see at a strip club except actual T&A (and sometimes there is a lot more A than one would expect)." And stand behind it. Explain why you think parents should have the right to do that with their children, just as parents have the right to take their kids to T&A rated R flicks, or show them the same at home.
But you don't want to do that, and it is transparently obvious why.
You are trying to steal a base. You don't want liberty to be hard- to admit that it potentially means letting people do "objectionable" things. So instead you create strawmen, and try to make fallacious appeals to the masses (that aren't even accurate). If you can insist that the overt sexualization of tweens isn't actually happening, then you don't have to defend peoples' rights to subject their kids to this content.
And this, of course, detracts from the cause of liberty. Imagine if the ACLU got up in front of America and the Judges and insisted that the Nazis looking to protest in Skokie, Illinois weren't actually saying anything "really objectionable". How far would their message have gone, before half the country decided they were lying gaslighters who were actually trying to excuse objectionable speech, rather than defend an objectionable person's rights to speak it?
Ghatanathoah doesn’t care about liberty though.
How far would their message have gone, before half the country decided they were lying gaslighters who were actually trying to excuse objectionable speech, rather than defend an objectionable person’s rights to speak it?
Yup. I've attended a few straight strip clubs. I understand, but don't necessarily agree with, all the rules I indicated above. If the movement were about generally repealing the rules in order to reduce power dynamics between "people able to consent" and "people unable to consent", I think there's a very valid case to be had. But that's not what's being advocated. What's being advocated is an enhancement of the current power dynamic in order to further specific kinds of abuse of both the "people unable to consent" as well as the rules to protect them from abuse.
In opposition, Cody Schuler, an advocacy manager with the ACLU of North Dakota, said, "Each of us gets to choose what books we read and what information we access. But we don't get to choose t
Now do mein kampf, the protocols of the elders of zion, and any book by Abigail Shrier.
you're all fucking hypocrites.
They really are.
What's the progressive line used when they want to take something out of a public (meaning government owned) place?
"You can still go see it at a museum."
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Don't ban 'Sexually Explicit' material from Public Libraries. Ban Public Libraries.
Let private lending libraries prevail.
Then if someone wants to start Jeff and Shrike's Pederast Bibliothèque and stuff it full of grooming materials and almost child porn they can go right ahead.
I believe the correct answer is to have a "fiery but mostly peaceful rally" outside with the purchasing agent for the library locked inside. This was the thing the ACLU and Reason writers cheered for in 2020 when it was going on in Portland and other cities.
I’m willing to have a ‘mostly’ peaceful confrontation with the pedos. Mostly…….
I think this is so funny, since people can access almost any form of obscenity in almost any media type on the internet. Basically, this just eliminates even semi-artistic forms of controversial material, while doing nothing to prevent minors from accessing very hardcore pornography on their phones. And if your kids can't due to you blocking their phones/internet, their friends will be willing to share.
Not an apples to apples comparison. This is like saying government websites should purchase and host hardcore pornography just because it exists. Just because something exists doesn't mean it should be collected by the taxpayer. I don't think snuff films should be in the library either.
The 1A creates no such right.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The right to access it still hasn't been impeded here. This is an example of why positive rights just can't be a thing. I don't have a right to freely access specific materials. I don't have a right to force an institution to host the materials at taxpayer's expense.
To say that voters or government can't set standards for filtering what materials are hosted at publicly funded institutions is ridiculous. It is further silly to say that adult content must be made available to children.
I am curious whether Camp would be as loud in defending Mein Kampf being in the library ss she would Sally's First Mandingo Party.
The First Amendment’s guarantee of the freedom of speech and the right to access information
This is a deeply stupid statement. Putting aside the obvious objections that it has no textual or historical basis in the Constitution, and that positive rights are inherently anti-libertarian in any context (because in order for the government to provide something, it must take it from someone else), how the fuck would this even work in practice?
To be clear, extracting the nugget of truth from Emma's own disingenuous words:
If passed, the bill would ban
any "business establishment frequented by minors, or where minors are or may be invited as a part of the general public," including public walkways, fromdisplaying any visual material "which exploits, is devoted to, or is principally made up of depictions of nude or partially denuded human figures posed or presented in a manner to exploit sex, lust, or perversion for commercial gain."FFS, it's like the laws or norms regulating the covering of bare breasts or blowjob instructions on the cover of Cosmo at grocery store checkout counters.
And, to be more clear, while I think the covering of bare breasts and blowjob instructions on the cover of Cosmo is very, very dumb, I can't think of a more retarded hill for libertarians to punch the 1A in the back of the head over, have a moral panic, and die on.
But its not only about visual porn. Its calling for someone to be thrown in jail over Are You There God? Its Me Margaret.
It is only about visual porn and the law goes on to definitively state as much. Go fuck yourself you lying, illiterate moron.
Again....show me the VISUAL porn in this. Where's the boobies and dicks Mad?
https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Funny-Word-Bodies-Feelings/dp/1609806069/ref=d_pd_sbs_vft_none_sccl_3_1/142-3447872-5994129?pd_rd_w=Sonm6&content-id=amzn1&tag=reasonmagazinea-20.sym.38bbd1de-73a5-4ef9-9954-df27c3112829&pf_rd_p=38bbd1de-73a5-4ef9-9954-df27c3112829&pf_rd_r=0QAG8GVYTSKYNAN7PKMV&pd_rd_wg=9SCnc&pd_rd_r=827a415b-ef14-46f9-b90b-19484c789e51&pd_rd_i=1609806069&psc=1
I don't have to show you anything. I've said the law doesn't do something and you assert that it does. Considering it hasn't even passed yet, the burden of proof is on you to show that it does.
That said, does the word 'porn' appear anywhere in the bill, if not, why would you ask? Does the title of the specific book? If neither one of those are in the bill why would you bring it up except to demonstrate that you're illiterate and really, really want to engage in sexual discussions with minors?
Is deAnn another Shrike sock?
There's a couple of verbal ticks that really feels like Jeff, sarc, or SQRLSY, but I don't keep track of all the dirty socks in the laundry well enough to sort them out. Wash, rinse, dry, repeat and eventually, they just disappear.
No I am not. I think its fucking hilarious that you assume all opinions that do not agree with yours must be one person because you think your mindset is in the majority.
The book has several dozen pages of graphic and explicit cartoon drawings of both male and female genitalia, breasts and anuses. Some of the images of penises include erections, and there is a graphic section describing the clitoris and how it can also become erect. In addition to those images and wording, there are descriptions and explanations of masturbation and how children can touch their genitals, breasts and anuses to make them feel, “warm and tingly. Review/Complaint by Jeff Forward/Fremont Tribune
The problem with the "this isn't a good hill to die on" type arguments is that censors (and statists in general) enjoy using "salami tactics." They say they only want to censor one or two really objectionable things, that's all. Then once they get that, they ask for one or two more things to be censored. And so on until a lot of stuff is censored. They divide an entire mountain range into small hills, and then take them one at a time. They need to be stopped at the first hill.
The "this isn't a good hill to die on" is a specific argument against salami slicing tactics. You fall for every feint and diversion that doesn't even remotely affect you, on your territory or theirs, and you won't save the salami or even any of the slices.
>>the Supreme Court set the high constitutional bar that defines obscenity
high bar made of muddy water
also how many books can there be in North Dakota?
Some people seem to want every library in North Dakota to stock every book in the Library of Congress; otherwise it is government censorship.
Not every book. Just the deviant ones that push left wing agendas and damage society
Just the two.
Not every library is the library of Congress. There is a clear process of selection of materials that most libraries carry. I’m pretty sure I can’t go down to my local County Library and pull out a copy of The Turner Diaries or The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, for example. And I’m essentially okay with that. Hell, on an even more innocent level, I doubt my local library carries a copy of Human Action, Man Economy and State, or A Monetary History of the United States. If, for no other reason, than that they’d be poor investments on the part of the library. So, we know that library collections reflect a curation process. Someone makes the decisions about what materials will be included in the library collection and which materials will be excluded. In the absence of decision-making on the part of elected officials, those decisions will be made by by the bureaucracy (and, yes, librarians are bureaucrats) employed by the library. In neither case does that curation not happen. In neither case is it some ideal of universal access to information advanced. It isn't liberty versus control. But, who is it who gets to control. And, by all accounts, in this particular instance doesn’t even get into deep curation of deciding what materials will be included and not included. It only addresses what materials will be promoted.
The libertarian answer is simple. Privatize the libraries. Sadly, I don’t see any advocacy of that in this article.
It's not a strip club, it's a pussy library (NSFW, duh)!
Is she wearing microfichenet stockings?
No, but she does have a pretty big python hidden under her cape (no pun, also duh).
Anyone check out the ACLU Library snuff film section?
If the honorable Representative is that worried about what his kids are checking out from the library, maybe he should go there with them. You know, be a parent!!
Yes, yes the public is to have no say in what goes on in it's name with funds stolen from them unless of course it advances the marxist cause. Most definently not through their chosen representatives, well there is that marxist cause exception.
The librarians making those individual choices are also the public's chosen representatives. No, they are not directly elected but they are hired and fired by people much closer to the individual choices that this scold ranting from his tower in the state capital.
The government should not subsidize publishers by buying books. If people want to read it, they can buy it.
I mean, does the library carry porno movies? Okay, they probably carry borderline soft corn porn movies, but still. they shouldn't be in the business of loaning movies. Libraries are what killed Blockbuster.
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Another blessing of Commie-Libraries. Will Commie's ever learn their collective utopia (coercion system) is but a wolf in sheeps clothing. Justice cannot be served without a median of fair-trade. Supply and Demand. The porn shop and children's book-store can survive simultaneously. Its about the Individual Liberty to chose.
As a parent, if you don’t like what the local library is showcasing, don’t take your kid to the library. As a community of taxpayers, if a majority of taxpayers does not like what the local library is showcasing, constantly protest the funding of the library management via your local and state politicians, town councils. Get involved with library board meetings—Similar to U.S. school board meetings. Do not re-elect the library board of directors.
Politicians on either side of the political spectrum should not be in the business of mandating and banning anything.
I personally distinguish between a public library and school library. I agree with you on public libraries having more "adult" books. I disagree with school libraries stocking these books for mostly underage kids (some seniors may be of age). Kids should be protected as much as possible from some things. Not that I am naive. In my age kids found "adult" magazines, today most kids have the Internet, if they have an interest they will find the stuff, but that is very different from educators providing it for them.
Can you buy the book?
Yes, yes you can.
Nothing is banned.
IN the sea of media the trash overwhelms the good stuff. The Midwest has a saying about 'Picking the corn out of the cowpie' that expresses this. So, filth and perversion need to be curtailed, and even Plato said as much about the theology of Hesiod and Homer, as it pandered to vice and perversion, and deviancy.
The only downside to this law is that is baits idiots and fools to think that what isn't banned or illegal is ipso facto okay. Which has never been true.
Having foolishly read some past posts by Ms. Camp, I consider it beneath my dignity to read any more of her output. But I bet dollars to donuts that this supposed "libertarian" is not arguing that there shouldn't be any public libraries in the first place!
OK, fine - I agree. There shouldn't be any "public" (aka government) libraries. That's the libertarian ideal. So what do we do in the meantime? Let the reich-wing bigots and zealots have free reign while we stick our fingers in our ears and say "lalalala there shouldn't be any public libraries lalalala"??
Limit the content that public libraries can carry to the least common denominator. Fire librarians. Ensure that libraries don't become spots for political indoctrination or homeless shelters or drug injection sites.
Just shut down public libraries and fire the librarians. In the 21st century, they are homeless shelters and propaganda outlets only. Actual books are found on the Internet.
You know what the funniest part of this whole article is? It’s practically a baited trap for pro-pedophiles and pro-Marxists (where not redundant) to out themselves.
There actually is a libertarian case to be made about private business and free speech here. I’d still disagree as long as the 14A stands and in light of “bake the cake” bullshit but, apparently that’s beside the point. Because, after a full day of the article’s posting and numerous examples, precisely zero people have made mention of the fact that the bill definitively targets what *private* businesses can display in their window even if we did do away with all the public libraries. Instead, the most libertarian replies are “do away with public libraries”. More critically, the self-evident least-libertarian answers are (effectively demonstrated by their revealed preferences and selective vision) not “The government shouldn’t be telling people what ads, even cis, het, adult strip clubs, what they can’t put up in their windows.” but “The public owes pedophiles shelves on which they can peddle their subsidized books to other people’s children.”
I’m not a “conspiracy” theorist, I’m a You-want-taxpayers-to-subsidize-your-child-sexual-slavery-and-it’s-obvious “theorist”.
Canada and the rest of the world stared aghast as Herbert Hoover and God's Own Prohibitionists had agents murder and rob people over weak beer, wine, plants and Comstock laws. In 1929 U.S. looters began sinking Canadian boats and killing their crews while goading corporate cartels at hush-hush Geneva meetings to institute a global planned economy via the violence of law. Stock prices went into accelerating fall in September and October as foreigners though better of handing their savings over to American banks and brokers. Are Nodaks again trying to wreck America's already plaid reputation?
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But the government wants to imprison people for up to 30 days over it. That's a step beyond just not providing the material. Fire the person, sure. But jail? That doesn't sound very libertarian-like.
I had to scroll back up to see what the fuck triggered the spazblather. Nicely done, and good to have you back here.
why the hardon for intentionally inundating children with pornographic material? Why the constant demands that we applaud your public displays of perversion?
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I have said nothing about the appropriate or inappropriateness of the material in question have I?