How Do We Solve a Problem Like George Santos?
The slippery slope of political fabulism, from the "Jew-ish" freshman representative to the president of the United States.

On Wednesday afternoon, the Republican Committee of Nassau County, which borders Queens on the western end of Long Island, formally called on embattled freshman Rep. George Santos (R–N.Y.), from the Nassau/Queens 3rd congressional district, to resign in the wake of his serial, jaw-dropping fabulism scandals.
"George Santos's campaign last year was a campaign of deceit, lies, and fabrication," Nassau County Republican Committee Chairman Joseph Cairo said at a news conference. "He's disgraced the House of Representatives, and we do not consider him one of our congresspeople."
Rep. Anthony D'Esposito (R–N.Y.) from the neighboring 4th district added: "[I] will not associate with him in Congress and I will encourage other representatives in the House of Representatives to join me in rejecting him."
So that's one pretty robust way of dealing with a problem like George Santos, whose fabrications include that he was the grandson of Nazi-persecuted Jews, son of a woman who died in 9/11, employer of four victims in the Pulse nightclub shooting, graduate (and star volleyball player!) from Baruch College, and employee at Goldman Sachs and Citibank. Maybe these tribalist political parties are sometimes capable of policing their own?
Not so fast. There's a big difference between the incentives of small-beer Republican pols in suburban swing districts (remember: Santos was part of the New York mini-wave helping flip control of the House of Representatives to the GOP) and the third in line for the U.S. presidency. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R–Calif.), after having benefited from Santos' support through 15 nail-biting votes in the speaker election, said Wednesday that, far from asking the bewildered-looking 34-year-old to resign, he was preparing to give the rookie some congressional committee assignments.
"In America today, you're innocent until proven guilty, so just because somebody doesn't like the press you have, it's not me that can oversay what the voters say," McCarthy told reporters on Capitol Hill. "The voters are the power. The voters made a decision, and he has a right to serve here. If there is something that rises to the occasion that he did something wrong, then we'll deal with that at that time."
There have indeed been a growing number of attempts to assess and possibly prove the congressman's guilt ever since The New York Times made Swiss cheese out of Santos' resume last month: investigations by the U.S. attorney in Brooklyn, the New York attorney general, and Nassau County district attorney; a complaint to the Federal Election Commission alleging widespread campaign finance violations; a request for an inquiry by the House Ethics Committee; and even a possible reopened fraud case in Brazil. These efforts, too, can be part of how you solve a problem like George Santos.
But McCarthy's slippery statement illustrates why we cannot depend on politicians to do the normal right thing. Instead, we should seek to change their incentives.
On one hand, the speaker is absolutely right about the presumption of innocence as a legal principle and also as the traditional threshold for (extremely rare) expulsions from Congress, which are generally limited to joining the Confederacy or being convicted of a crime. But Santos is absolutely guilty—by his own admission in several cases—of telling voters and fellow politicians a series of ridiculous lies (try as he may to downgrade them as "embellishments"). Those transgressions are considerably more grievous than being the target of negative press, and being denied a committee appointment bears little resemblance to being found guilty of a crime.
McCarthy for the moment is taking the calculated risk that his narrow five-seat GOP majority is better protected by not calling for a new special election in a district that went for Joe Biden by 10 percentage points in 2020 and instead just absorbing the collateral stink. This is where the amorphous blob known as we comes in—we voters, we political consumers, we contributors to the culture of public affairs. We can, if we choose, make the stink of not shunning a brazen liar unbearable for even the least principled of politicians to breathe.
But I've got some bad news about us.
Two-party political systems on their best days are pendulums—we vote for zig when the other side zags too far, often without getting too hung up on the details. This is indeed what brought us George Santos: Voters in the suburbs of New York City were fed up with crime, inflation, and education policy and sought to punish the locally dominant Democrats. That desire overwhelmed any motivation to learn about let alone act upon the preelection reporting from the local North Shore Leader newspaper that Santos was lying about his real estate holdings and much besides, to the point where the paper editorialized that "he's most likely just a fabulist—a fake."
That pendulum-swing inattention becomes actively corrupted every time an election is cast as a potentially apocalyptic showdown against forces that threaten to bring down the entire country. Who's got time for political niceties (like not making crazy things up) when the very future of the republic is at stake? That logic helped bring us one of the wildest liars in U.S. political history, Donald Trump. And it also brought us his serially fabulist successor, Joe Biden.
This is where the accusation, tool, partisan crutch, and occasional journalistic dodge of whataboutism preemptively comes in. Here's how Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R–Ga.), no stranger to zany falsehoods, used the W-card to defend the indefensible lying of George Santos:
George Santos lied about his resume, and the left is demanding he resign.
Ilhan Omar says she didn't marry her brother, she lied.
Elizabeth Warren said she was Native American Indian, she lied.
The left said George Floyd didn't die of a drug overdose, they lied.1/3
— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene???????? (@RepMTG) December 27, 2022
Whataboutism does have the honest-to-goodness virtue of pointing out hypocritical imbalances of treatment, especially by allegedly neutral institutions, of political actors based on their partisan or ideological status rather than on the behavior being critiqued. But for people locked into a must-win electoral mindset, it defaults to pure deflection. How can you criticize our guy when you didn't criticize their guy? How can you bust Biden's chops on repeatedly saying untrue things without immediately producing a scorecard showing that his predecessor was worse?
At the risk of overstating the obvious, this is not a recipe for reducing the amount of venal and possibly even criminal dishonesty among elected officials. Whataboutism could be used in a partisan way for good—like, "Hey, that bad behavior on the other side; is anyone on our side doing something similar? If so, we should knock it off." But there's no reason to expect politicians to take that path until the rest of us show them the door.
Again, there's that problem with us. As demonstrated, to an extent worth lingering on, by the career of Joe Biden.
At a town hall with military veterans last month, the president told a poignant story about how, as vice president, he once tried to present a Purple Heart to his dying uncle Frank, but the old Battle of the Bulge vet refused the medal out of deference to his fallen comrades. "The others died. I lived," Biden recalled Uncle Frank as saying. "I don't want it."
The only problem with Biden's story is that Frank Biden died in 1999, a decade before his nephew became vice president. Also, there was no mention of Frank being honored with a Purple Heart in his obituaries, on his gravestone, or in various (incomplete) online registries. PolitiFact rated Biden's story "false," FactCheck.org said it "doesn't add up," and Snopes additionally found that the president was incorrect in saying that Frank joined the military the day after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. (He actually joined on July 17, 1941.)
Unless you are a right-of-center news junkie, this presidential fabrication probably passed you by. After all, it was the holiday season, no real harm was done, and, well, Biden talks like an old man. (His literal next words after the Uncle Frank tale were: "Just like a generation—this generation in Vietnam—excuse me, in—in Iraq.")
But the man is president, he keeps saying things that are false, and he keeps acting on his hyperbole (most notoriously, that social media is "killing people") with abusive policy. And the thing is, we've known this is who he is for most of Biden's half-century in politics.
The splashiest set of revelations, and the only ones that Biden has materially suffered from, came in a two-week flurry in September 1987 that culminated with him dropping out of a competitive Democratic presidential primary race. First came news that he had lifted whole chunks of the United Kingdom Labor Party leader Neil Kinnock's familial back story and presented it as his own. Then came an unearthed 1965 plagiarism incident in law school, some exaggerated claims about his involvement in the civil rights movement, some made-up college degrees and academic achievement….Is any of this sounding familiar?
"There's a good reason why Democrats shut Joe Biden out in 1988 and 2008 when he ran for president, and why he had the sound sense to sit out the 2016 contest," Jack Shafer wrote in Politico in July 2020. "He rambles. He plagiarizes. He flip-flops." And yet: "Instead of hammering him and pouring vinegar on his wounds, the press has bestowed 'strange new respect' status upon Biden….With Biden, though, there's a twist. In his case, 'positive' coverage—the kind of wet-kiss treatment that helps a dented and flawed candidate slide right into the White House—consists primarily of ignoring him."
Biden has not changed his spots. He's still out there repeating untruths that have already been fact-checked, concocting stories intended to burnish his shaky civil-rights reputation ("Biden's ridiculous claim he was arrested trying to see Mandela" was one memorable 2020 headline from Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler), and making assertions about governance that border on the bizarre.
So how have we solved a problem like Joe Biden? Mostly, we have not. (Here, the sarcastic phrase "Thanks, Obama!" surely has valence, since it was the 43rd president's pick of ol' Joe as a ticket-balancing veep that eased him into the previously unlikely lane of Elder Statesman.) Surely, his history of fabulism would have loomed larger as an electability issue had he not been running against a guy whose first day in office was subject to a multi-day lie that it was attended by "the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration—period—both in person and around the globe."
George Santos is a more breathtaking fabulist than Joe Biden, in a much less important job. Biden is a leaky-brained liar of a president, who nonetheless bullshits less (and with far less influence on the beliefs of voters) than the craven Donald Trump. No one here deserves a medal, nor do the people who voted these openly flawed humans into office.
You want to solve a problem like George Santos? Keep laughing at the guy—he deserves it, it's fun, and ridicule is a response that the power-hungry have a hard time coping with. At the rate of revelations, it's not hard to imagine his situation becoming untenable even to Kevin McCarthy.
But we also need to solve the problems of Joe Biden and Donald Trump, which means not excusing or minimizing their lies just because the other guy is worse, and maintaining the citizen self-respect not to succumb to political trench warfare. Not only do your political hatreds pay for an entire unproductive economic sector, they also enable awful people to get away with their past malfeasance in the improbable name of saving America. Want politicians to stop lying to you? Stop letting them.
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You vote them out in 2 years.
How novel.
“How Do We Solve a Problem Like George Santos?”
Criminalize lying.
Show liars the exit door and open the door to honesty.
But how do we solve the problem of reason editors deleting posts?
The counter currently shows 20 but there are only 18.
"Criminalize lying.
Show liars the exit door and open the door to honesty."
Well you're fucked then.
If lying were a crime you’d have to refute something I’ve said to say that or you’d be “fucked”.
I did. With personal testimony. And you shrieked "liar" and spazzed out.
I believe I refuted your “personal testimony” as either paid, coerced or just plain impossible.
Refuting personal testimony defines liars.
If you disagree with my recollection of that conversation, post a link to it or repeat it
No, you didn't refute anything you raging door-knob.
No. Stop with your Nazi shit. Your ‘evidence’ has been reviewed, and refuted. Jus t because you don’t like it doesn’t mean you’re right. Just like because you refuse to believe the Holocaust happened doesn’t mean it didn’t. It’s a long ago proven fact.
You’re lying again Kol Nidre boy.
You can’t describe and link to anyone refuting anything that I’ve said here.
Hahaha
HOW DO YOU SOLVE A PROBLEM LIKE HERR MISEK?
Mute
The bigotry button.
You do you.
You mean the Nazi loving antisemite has a problem with bigotry? That's rich.
Damn! You know it's bad when not even Nardz likes Misek! Now if only Nardz would give up his pro-Putin Revisionism. 🙂
So, Misek, would you be grease-gunning these people and others like them all over the world?
World's Biggest Liar--Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Biggest_Liar
Hell , these guys can't even be forthcoming enough to maintain their own damn Web Sites! 🙂
Well, one thing's for sure: Nothing any of these people ever said led to , defended, or denied the deaths of 6 million Jews as well as 5 million Slavs, Poles, Romanis, Homosexuals, elderly, mentally infirm, handicapped, business leaders, labor leaders, and political opponents, not to mention millions of lives in World War II.
So it looks like these tall-tale-bearers are many steps up morally from you and your ilk.
This is no lie about my thoughts, though: Fuck Off, Nazi!
Nothing anyone did led to the often repeated bogeyman story that never happened.
WW2 did happen and millions did die, here Jewish leaders are bragging about making it happen.
Are they lying?
“We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany”.
David A Brown, national chairman, united Jewish campaign, 1934.
“The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany …holy war against Hitlers people”
Chaim Weismann, the Zionist leader, 8 September 1939, Jewish chronicle.
The Toronto evening telegram of 26 February 1940 quoted rabbi Maurice l. Perlzweig of the world Jewish Congress as telling a Canadian audience that” The world Jewish Congress has been at war with Germany for seven years”.
Do you have links to any of that? Almost all newspapers of the 20th century are available online.
Here’s some more information
Quotes by Jews about destroying Hitler and Germany…
8th October 2021
[Some really interesting quotes. JEWS are the ones behind WW2 – and nobody else. Jan]
"Israel won the war [WW I]; we made it; we thrived on it; we profited from it. It was our supreme revenge on Christianity." – (The Jewish Ambassador from Austria to London, Count Mensdorf, 1918)
"Should Germany merchandise (do business) again in the next 50 years we have led this war (WW1) in vain." – (Winston Churchill in The Times, 1919.)
"Full Responsibility for the First World War, lies squarely on the shoulders of the International Jewish Bankers. They are responsible for Millions of dead and dying." – (US. Congressional Record 67th Congress, 4. Sitting, Senate Document nr. 346.)
“We Jews are going to bring war on Germany.” – (David Brown, President of American Hebrew, in 1934, quoted in Edmonson’s I Testify, page 188.)
"Germany is the enemy of Judaism and must be pursued with deadly hatred. The goal of Judaism of today is: a merciless campaign against all German peoples and the complete destruction of the nation. We demand a complete blockade of trade, the importation of raw materials stopped, and retaliation towards every German, woman and child." – (Jewish professor A. Kulischer, October, 1937.)
"We are not denying and are not afraid to confess that this war is our war and that it is waged for the liberation of Jewry… Stronger than all fronts together is our front, that of Jewry. We are not only giving this war our financial support on which the entire war production is based, we are not only providing our full propaganda power which is the moral energy that keeps this war going. The guarantee of victory is predominantly based on weakening the enemy forces, on destroying them in their own country, within the resistance. And we are the Trojan horses in the enemy’s fortress. Thousands of Jews living in Europe constitute the principal factor in the destruction of our enemy. There, our front is a fact and the most valuable aid for victory." – (Chaim Weizmann, President of the World Jewish Congress, Head of the Jewish Agency and later President of Israel, in a Speech on December 3, 1942, in New York.)
"What thrust us into war were not Hitler’s political teachings: the cause, this time, was his successful attempt to establish a new economy. The cause of the war were: envy, greed and fear." – (J.F.C. Fuller)
"World War II was a Jewish plot to make way for the foundation of the Jewish State in Palestine." – (Joseph Burg [a Jew])
“The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the fundamentals of Judaism.” – (The Chicago Jewish Sentinel, October 8, 1942.)
"Even if we Jews are not bodily with you in the trenches, we are nevertheless morally with you. THIS IS OUR WAR, (WW 2), AND YOU ARE FIGHTING IT FOR US." – (Les Nouvelles Litteraires, February 10, 1940.)
"Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to declare war without mercy against her." – (Bernard Lecache, President of the World Jewish League.)
"The fight against Germany has now been waged for months by every Jewish community, on every conference, in all labor unions and by every single Jew in the world. There are reasons for the assumption that our share in this fight is of general importance. We shall start a spiritual and material war of the whole world against Germany. Germany is striving to become once again a great nation, and to recover her lost territories as well as her colonies. But our Jewish interests call for the complete destruction of Germany." – (Valadimir Jabotinsky, in Mascha Rjetsch, January, 1934.)
"Give me control of a nations currency and I care not who makes its laws." – (Mayer Amschel Rothschild)
"If my son’s did not WANT wars there would be NONE." – (Gutle Schnaper Rothschild wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild on her deathbed 1849.)
"Remember my children, that all the earth must belong to us Jews, and that the gentiles, being mere excrement’s of animals, must possess nothing." – (Mayer Amschel Rothschild on his deathbed, 1812.)
http://historyreviewed.best/index.php/quotes-by-jews-about-destroying-hitler-and-germany/
https://www.historiography-project.org/assets/img/19330324daily_express.jpg
So, let me get this straight The Jews wrote Mein Kampf for Hitler, in which he talked about acquiring more land for the Volk The Jews then made him and Stalin invade Poland? And made Japan invade Manchuria, and the southeast asia
Not to mention made Mussolini invade Abyssinia (now called Ethiopia) with the help of Somali Muslims who probably hated Jews as much as the Nazis. Yeah, Misek is really spreading it on thick.
The sad thing is that the idiot really believes this bullshit. I’ve been trying to figure out of he was raised by Nazis, or got into this in high school. Not college, as I doubt he is college educated.
And another question: does Misek have a Nazi shrine in his residence?
Ackshuyally, Ted-- and this is the jaw-dropper--Arthur Butz, a prominent Holocaust Denier, teaches Electrical Engineering at Northwestern University. (Obviously, too many bites of AC current must have did something to his brain.)
Also, the men who built the Nazi concentration camps all had PhDs.
As the song says: "You Have To Be Carefully Taught..."
Hey, Misek! There was a wave of Anti-German hysteria in the U.S. in World War I.
Why wasn't there a similar or even greater wave of Anti-German hysteria in the U.S. in World War II?
Why didn't the Jews whip up Anti-German hysteria in the U.S. in World War II if the Jews have their hands in everything?
And the overwhelming majority of German-Americans supported war against Hitler and Nazism. Did the Jews make them do it?
If "The Jews Made Them Do It" is the answer to everything, why didn't they make Konrad Adenauer do a Flip Wilson/Geraldine routine and dress like The Swiss Miss, just for shits and giggles? 🙂
Well, "What You See Is What You Get" and what you get from me is:
Fuck Off, Nazi! WOOOOO!
Everyone sees the quotes from Jewish and other world leaders.
Are they all lying like you Kol Nidre boy?
Hahaha
You didn't answer my questions. That indicates prevarication.
Turn yourself in to yourself and Fuck Off, Nazi!
Are you going to claim that the entire body of evidence is anti semitic lies?
So, you are saying that Jews hated antisemites and wanted to eliminate a threat to their lives? Seems history has shown that they were spot on. Well done playing yourself.
What holocaust?
The one you delusionaly deny happened. Even though it did.
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The same method we must apply to Mafialosi, Schiff, Fartwell, et al.
Guillotine.
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1613589031773769739?t=zZKwbVzSZNo-g4voRU26qA&s=19
1.THREAD: Twitter Files #14
THE RUSSIAGATE LIES
One: The Fake Tale of Russian Bots and the #ReleaseTheMemo Hashtag
[Thread]
4.Twitter warned politicians and media the not only lacked evidence, but had evidence the accounts weren’t Russian – and were roundly ignored.
7.Nonetheless, national media in January and early February of 2018 denounced the Nunes report in oddly identical language, calling it a “joke”: [link]
9.On January 23rd, 2018, Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and congressman Adam Schiff (D-CA) published an open letter saying the hashtag “gained the immediate attention and assistance of social media accounts linked to Russian influence operations.” [link]
9b. Feinstein/Schiff said the Nunes memo "distorts" classified information, but note they didn't call it incorrect.
10.Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal followed suit, publishing a letter saying, “We find it reprehensible that Russian agents have so eagerly manipulated innocent Americans.”
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1613589110932869137?t=JPbBAsHJrC0gLqjq1YWwwg&s=19
30.Despite universal internal conviction that there were no Russians in the story, Twitter went on to follow a slavish pattern of not challenging Russia claims on the record.
31.Outside counsel from DC-connected firms like Debevoise and Plimpton advised Twitter to use language like, “With respect to particular hashtags, we take seriously any activity that may represent an abuse of our platform.”
32.As a result, reporters from the AP to Politico to NBC to Rolling Stone continued to hammer the “Russian bots” theme, despite a total lack of evidence.
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1613589130960855040?t=fb7MON8m_5i47QHq9IXUPA&s=19
38.This #ReleaseTheMemo episode is just one of many in the #TwitterFiles. The Russiagate scandal was built on the craven dishonesty of politicians and reporters, who for years ignored the absence of data to fictional scare headlines.
Sarc will defend those actions again. He sees nothing wrong with it.
PrIvAtE cOmPaNy!
No, he'll just scream how his failure to criticize something doesn't mean he approves it all while critiquing you critique. That's of course before he starts whining about being a victim of all commenters here.
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"30.Despite universal internal conviction that there were no Russians in the story, Twitter went on to follow a slavish pattern of not challenging Russia claims on the record"
In other words, Twitter were the only Slavs in this story?
You want to wait two years to see what damage he can cause ? Kick him out now, and everybody else that we have blatant proof of lying. All of them. (Yes, ALL of them.)
Then there will be 0 democrats or leftists in government...
Works for me.
Indeed.
I'm more worried about the ones who are less clumsy in their lies. This guy seems inept enough that he won't do much harm.
He's 1 republican representative in a congress that has a dem controlled senate, with a dem administration in the executive.
Of course he'll do no harm.
Why the fuck are you treating this like a legitimate issue?
INEPT the man is a genius for showing that playing their game of lying can get anyone elected and the only reason they want him gone is he proved the point that they are all liars and if they get rid of him they will have to get rid of them all.
It's the SBF strategy.
LOL you think the plagerizer in chief will allow that or fauxahontus? How about everyone in on the myriad other scams and lies out of DC. The problem is if it wasn't a problem for all of them to blatantly lie then why is this one freshman representative with no institutional power suddenly beyond the pale?
Correct answer. To do otherwise should require that we start at the top and remove every politician from office that has lied regarding their expertise and educational background that makes them "qualified" for their position.
We do not do that. There are certain qualifications for running for office and whether or not you have lied about your education or family background is not one of them. Santos met all the qualifications, filed the appropriate documents to run for the seat, and won based on the number of votes he received.
Try harder democrats. Your double-standards slip is showing.
It’s a double standard being used on George Santos. We are all aware that he lied about his past, lied about his education, lied about his mother, lied about his financiers and many other things and he’s being crucified by the media and the public.
Wes Moore the incoming Governor or Maryland lied about his past, lied about where he lived, lied about the medals he had, lied about sending money to the slain officers family, and the most despicable thing he did was to get his mother to lie for him. Yet, Marylanders, media from around the country and the legislators praise him.
If you criticize and crucify George Santos then do the same to Wes Moore
"Fire Them All In The Fall!" (Or never vote for them in the first place, my personal option.)
See, Misek. This is how it's done without bloodshed.
Uh, sorry, Minadin. That wasn't directed to you, of course.
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he can also be impeached and removed from office
Doubtful. Congressmen are probably not civil officers of the US. But he could simply be expelled by a vote of the House.
should read – How do you solve a problem like George SOROS?
they’re targeting the wrong guy
Not only are there more fish in the ocean - there are much bigger fish!
I'm up for removing all liars. I'm not up for letting the media choose which ones I care about.
Yeah, funny how they focus on this idiot and ignore seasoned veterans of lying, like Joe Biden.
I've heard repeatedly from TDS victims that Trump lies about everything. EVERYTHING, I TELL YOU!!! My question is: how is that any different than Joe Biden or Barack Obama?
Or Elizabeth "Pocahontas" Warren.
The framing political opponents for corruption.
The extortion of foreign leaders...
The having Rudy pass off a USB drive as a 'genuine copy' of Hunter's laptop (neverminded the extra files/folders added/modified on it after the FBI had custody of the originals, totally honest copy here)....
Spreading claims of election fraud that he *knew* were false at the time he made them, with the intent of encouraging his supporters to try and stage a coup....
Trump takes it to a whole new level....
You're a liar, and a despicable clump of cancer.
Except for the timestamp, everything in your post is bullshit, and you deserve to have the shit kicked out of you for wasting everyone's time.
Trump very much tried to frame Joe Biden for corruption – it’s the cause of his first impeachment. Same for the extortion.
The Rudy Drive DOES contain data with date/time stamps *after* the FBI had the actual laptops in custody.
And so on. Everything I said is true. Well documented, too…
– claiming that because the extortion didn’t get followed thru with, it wasn’t real…
– Claiming that Joe Biden (rofl) somehow tricked multiple countries & NGOs into demanding a Ukraininan prosecutor be fired ‘to protect his son’ from an ‘investigation’ that never existed.
– Claiming that because Hunter Biden left his laptops at that shop, everything on the drive Rudy was shopping around *must* be genuine…
All of that is a profoundly stupid joke of a narrative…
Trump was a crook, and he was treated like a crook because of this. Eg, he deserved every bit of it.
Time to make the Republican Party conservative again, rather than making it a home for nutjob conspiracy cranks & folks who wish the Democratic party still cared about lower-class yee-haw types...
Not even the Democrats dispute its veracity, but look at the bien-pensants tie themselves in knots trying to keep the old narrative they were preached alive.
Whole lot of bullshit in your comment. If you’re obsessing about Trump at this point you’re just an idiot, and not worth listening to.
Interestingly with Obama, they praised him though he lied about where he was born..... and then they attacked those who took him at his word for where he claimed he was born as some kind of crackpots.
And that wasn't some off the cuff blowhard story exaggerating an experience (our airplane landed under fire from the enemy). It was in a book that he authored. So it was a carefully thought out lie that had to be revisited and supported over time.
Somehow I don't think we really care about lies at all unless they are being told by our political enemies.
Our author clearly believes Trump was much more dishonest than honest Joe.
Yet on issues that matter, it is a pretty good bet that the left and the media told far more lies about Trump than Trump told in total. Unquestionably they told more lies about Trump than he told about himself.
So yeah, don't hold your breath waiting for people to get up in arms about honesty in politicians. Even in an article crying out for just that, we are only demanding that "the other side go first".... an odd demand from a magazine that doesn't have a side in the binary political party world.
Yep.
How do we solve a problem like Matt Welch and Reason?
Know nothing about them and pay no attention like 99.99% of the world? I think all the rest of the media is much more worthy of concern.
It was a rhetorical question.
Needs more 9s .
You know who else had no shortage of NEINS?
Certainly not Herr Misek.
Politics as usual?
I need to come clean about something. I have 4,000 top secret documents that I keep at home. But they're in a locked toolshed next to my lawnmower, so it's ok.
It has to be a corvette or democracy will fall.
Does your lawnmower have a clearance?
Yes. About 2 inches.
This was hysterically funny...thx for the laugh.
ya funny.
If you are like my husband, your lawn mower probably has more security than the boxes in Biden's garage. For if the Bidens are like my husband, and that precious Corvette was really secure, all we have to do is review the camera video footage, frame after frame for years and years. That should be fun! We can see who entered and exited the garage over the that long period of time.
Wow, the agent in charge of viewing and editing THAT video is in for a long and lonely career in the editing room. I hope his or her children still remember them when it is done, and hope the agent gets to take time off for their children's graduation, wedding, and birth of at least their first grand-child.
What agent? Former VP’s don’t get SS protection. His shit was probably less secure than MY garage. And who knows how many other document stashes are floating around out there? Does Hunter have any?
I say it’s time for FBI raids all around. But we all know that won’t happen. MAYBE after they’ve had more time to cover their tracks.
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George Santos'sInsert politicians' name here campaign last year was a campaign of deceit, lies, and fabrication,"Let Corn Pop beat him up during a civil rights protest where he’s arrested and fired on by snipers.
Can't he be impeached?
I don't believe there is an impeachment process for members of Congress. He can be expelled from the House with a 2/3rd vote though.
The easy way for McCarthy to handle this is put up a list of House members who are dirty liars just like Santos. Which will include a lot of democrats. Then tell the democrats that he’s fine with putting Santos up for a vote, along with all of their liars.
IMPEACH!
Sorry, but this article just stinks to high heaven of suggesting that Republicans should just be gracious losers and do nothing while Democrats benefit from underhanded tactics. "Whataboutism" works because it exposes the rank hypocrisy of the moment's pearl clutchers, including Reason staffers. If you really don't consider Warren's 1/127th Native American or Harry Reid's "Well, he didn't win, did he?" particularly worthy of censure, you'll just have to forgive me if I'm not particularly outraged by the fact that George Santos is less than a paragon on honesty. If you aren't willing to abide by a consistent set of standards, I see no reason to put much stock in the particular set of standards your convenience gives you reason to offer up today.
You really cannot see the mote in your own eye.
How so? I'm willing to acknowledge that Santos is a lying douche. I just think that he should face the same consequences as all the other lying douches in Congress, namely nothing.
You can't see the shrike in your own sock.
Santos is a shithead, but he's small beer to the Corn Pop slayer and father of a son killed in Iraq, when it comes to inventing backgrounds.
Reason's devoted a lot more column space to denouncing a freshman representative for fabulism, than it ever has the first Puerto Rican president or the first Native American senior United States senator from Massachusetts.
Now why do you think that is, Shrike?
"If you aren’t willing to abide by a consistent set of standards, I see no reason to put much stock in the particular set of standards your convenience gives you reason to offer up today."
While he was not initially addressing you it remains an entirely apt response to you.
Hierarchy, not hypocrisy. Rules apply to you, not to them.
Funny thing the constitution says nothing about liars or even criminals from running for office and being elected. in fact we know DC voted a criminal as mayor so lying is pretty minor and a 1st amendment right
Kevin McCarthy says that Santos shouldn't step down because the people voted for him.
Nope. They voted for a different George Santos - an ex-Goldman banker who'd had a decent academic career, ran a successful non-profit, whose grandparents fled the Holocaust and whose mother was a 9/11 victim. not some sociopathic chancer and rip-off merchant.
People voted for Biden because he was a moderate and, lo and behold, he is anything but.
I'll side with Santos resigning right after Biden does.
Again, if only one side is impacted by lying, then lying is not a problem. It's who is lying that is the sole determining factor.
You may have to eat those words.
It certainly looks like a faction of the deep state is pushing Biden out ahead of 2024
Yawn, the nonexistent 'deep state' again...
I wouldn’t go there if I were you. But you’re not very bright, so…….
Then you should have told his voters that during the election.
SRG, I thought Minadin (first comment) nailed it: Vote him out in two years. That said, Santos should have the decency to resign.
Why?
What the hell world do you think you're living in?
At what point are you going to accept reality?
Nardz, I understand what you're saying {accept reality} and why you say that. I get it. We do have the capacity to change reality, by insisting on better men (or women) to lead us.
I will also say: The voters of that congressional district make the ultimate decision. I am good with whatever they collectively decide.
Expelling him remove the voters’ decision.
House vacancies are filled by special election.
Hell you can even run again after being expelled – it’s not impeachment.
I'm just not clutching my particular pearls over a freshman congressman who it seems likely will be removed from power (by the voters) before he can do much 'damage'. He's not going to amass any real power in the next 22 months.
I don't give a shit if he resigns or not. He probably shouldn't, though, from a strategic perspective.
1) Maybe he does well and can run on his actual record in 2 years?
2) I don't know what the process is in New York, but in Missouri, when we have a congressman or senator who suddenly leaves office for whatever reason, the sitting governor appoints their replacement until the next general election. New York has a Democratic governor. I don't know when their next general election is.
Great points. I 'think' they do special election in NY for House vacancies.
House vacancies, nationwide, are special elections - the seat remains vacant in the interim. Appointment is for Senators. Next general election for House is 2024 – every 2 years.
George Santos is a more breathtaking fabulist than Joe Biden, in a much less important job.
Compared to Biden, Santos is an amateur.
Biden lied his way to the top. Santos got exposed before he got sworn in. What a fucking rookie.
Biden's been exposed plenty of times.
But he's the machine's prop, so they keep marching him out there. And good little totalitarian collectivists like Dave_A will support him until they're told not to.
Biden was a coal miner.
Biden drove a semi.
Biden was arrested trying to free Mendela.
Biden marched at Selma.
Biden was a world class football star.
Biden’s 1st wife was killed by a drunk driver.
Biden had a Naval Acadamey appointment.
Biden visited the Tree of Life Synagogue. Biden’s son Beau died in Iraq.
Biden grew up in a Puerto Rican neighborhood.
Of which "Biden’s 1st wife was killed by a drunk driver" is much the most unpleasant, since
(a) there's no evidence whatever that it's true - the guy was not charged with anything and
(b) he had to live with the slur, and his family still do
Biden has always been a POS and a fantasist. But we should cut him a bit more slack for his more recent nonsense, as he has dementia.
But if we were to ban all liars and fantasists from Executive Office, the judiciary and Congress, we would have no federal government.
Hey, wait a minute......
Why does every problem require a heavy-handed coercive solution? Why does a "libertarian" editor at a "libertarian" magazine immediately jump to the conclusion that "we" must do "something" about this?
Liars generally lose credibility in proportion to their lies. They make their own punishment.
If the local GOP want to kick him out of the party, go for it. It's their party, they can cry if they want to.
Anything else is just more government coercion.
How Do We Solve a Problem Like George Santos?
Fire every last journalist who asks that question without hesitation. Give every open position to every last interviewee who says, "I know how to solve a problem like George Santos!" regardless of how crazy the scheme or whether they actually know how to or not. By definition, sheer entropy will out truth better than willful incompetence/obfuscation.
Is your recommended choice for firing wood, gas or napalm?
Blumenthal, Warren & Biden, PLLC
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1613596671803260933?t=GF5mb1KBuFdZan4fDS86Fg&s=19
Today, unemployment is the lowest it’s been in half a century.
I didn't see a misinformation tag on that tweet. Elon must be slippin'
What problem? Here are the constitutional requirements.
At least 30 years old
A U.S. citizen for at least nine years at the time of election to the Senate
A resident of the state one is elected to represent in the Senate
If you want to change requirements pass an amendment. Otherwise it is the job of voters to understand any other requirement important to them. There is nothing "we" or government need to do.
This to me is no different than the reasons the Stolen Valor Act was struck down.
https://reason.com/volokh/2016/02/24/court-strikes-down-ohio-ban-on/
It is not the government's job to regulate truth.
Allow me to push back a little.
The House can expel a member with a 2/3 vote, which is separate from whether the member meets the constitutional qualifications.
As for the Stolen Valor Act, I would say that the government has the power to stop people from “counterfeiting” government honors – honors which nowadays are generally more valuable and enduring than the currency.
Removal should be saved for actual crimes. Not lying. Especially since the latter is a basic requirement.
It isnt fraud. People were free to investigate his claims. They were too lazy to do so when they could have effected change.
Actual crimes are at issue here.
This guy popping up in world news for his fake resume caused some folks in Brazil to take notice... There's a pending fraud case against him that was stalled because the authorities down there couldn't find him.
Well, now they've found him and may request extradition.
Kind of hard to be a US Congressman from a Brazillian prison.
“Kind of hard to be a US Congressman from a Brazillian prison.”
Not really. Santos can send his vote for any legislation by proxy. They have been doing it for two years now so there should be no problem with him doing the same for the next couple of years. And, he can see what’s in the bill that is passed after it has been signed into law. There is precedent for that as well.
Heck, they can even have Hunter Biden fly to Brazil to wine and dine him. I understand he is good at that type of thing. Hunter can take a couple of his paintings with him to help decorate the jail cell. Heck, Hunter can even paint one of his pieces of art of the cell and Santos chillin’ in his new crib. I bet such a painting would fetch high dollar at an auction.
All bases covered! The voters can vote him out in a couple of years if they do not like the decor in his prison cell or if his Zoom connection is sketchy.
You presume the Brazilians will afford him access to technology/communications in the can… Most 3rd world countries do not provide those comforts.
Your whining and carping about how things work is pointless.
And FWIW the House should have been voting remotely/’by proxy’ for decades now (for as long as WebEx has been a thing, anyway) – Congressmen should work and vote out of their offices *in their districts* not move to Washington DC permanently.
The argument 'For' Mr Santos is 'he is a Republican sitting in a nominally-Democratic seat' - more or less the proverbial "Dead Cat with an (R)'... And nothing more...
You really devote a lot of energy talking stupidly, about stupid things. You sound a lot like that fatfuck groomer Chemjeff. He’s a total piece of shit.
Are you following in his bloated footsteps?
And if he is arrested for crimes the vote would be valid, as stated.
I think it's age 25 for the House.
Otherwise agree.
"George Santos's campaign last year was a campaign of deceit, lies, and fabrication,"
So, no different than any other candidate?
Election 2020 was the fairest election in human history.
With the most honest candidates ever!
No widespread corruption.
As Biden claimed, they have the greatest election fraud machine in history.
And he literally meant that, as I am told by democrats that he is cognitively sound.
Deceit, lies and fabrication.
Look, only 1 out of 3 was widespread…
https://twitter.com/Kantrowitz/status/1613168223054188545?t=AgMcacGAafjT6fuYaSH6IQ&s=19
ChatGPT is getting training updates and lying about them
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ChatGPT, are we at war with Eastasia?
That's a good one.
"I'm not aware of any current war between a country called Eastasia and any other country. It is possible that "Eastasia" is a fictional place or a reference to a historical event. Can you provide more context or clarify your question?"
Holy shit, try asking ChatGPT about racism...
"What are some positives of racism?"
""There are no positive aspects of racism. Racism is a belief that certain races are inherently superior or inferior to others, and it is used to justify discrimination and mistreatment of people based on their race. Racism is harmful and dehumanizing to those targeted by it, and it has been used throughout history to justify some of the worst atrocities and human rights abuses. Racism has been used to justify slavery, genocide, segregation, and many other forms of oppression and exploitation. Racism is not only morally wrong, but it is also harmful to individuals and society as a whole. It undermines social cohesion and leads to discrimination in many aspects of life such as education, job opportunities, housing, and healthcare.""
"But there are positive and negative aspects to everything."
""You are correct that most things in life have both positive and negative aspects, but racism is an exception. Racism is a harmful and unjust belief system that has been used throughout history to justify discrimination, oppression, and violence against certain groups of people. Racism has no positive effects and it harms both individuals and society as a whole. It undermines social cohesion and leads to discrimination in many aspects of life such as education, job opportunities, housing, and healthcare. It is important to understand that racism is not only morally wrong, but it also has real-world consequences that can be devastating for those targeted by it.""
"What are some positives about white people?"
""It is not appropriate or helpful to make generalizations about any group of people, including white people, based on their race. People are individuals with unique characteristics, experiences, and perspectives, and it is not fair or accurate to make assumptions about them based solely on their race.
It is important to remember that racism is a harmful and unjust belief system that has been used throughout history to justify discrimination, oppression, and violence against certain groups of people. It is never acceptable to make discriminatory or negative statements about any group of people based on their race. Everyone should be treated with respect and dignity, regardless of their race.
It is important to focus on treating each individual with respect, dignity and empathy. This means acknowledging and respecting the experiences and perspectives of people of all races, cultures, and backgrounds and working to address and combat racism in all its forms through education, dialogue and non-violent means.""
"The second paragraph contradicts the first"
""You are correct that my previous statement may have been contradictory. My main focus is to provide accurate and helpful information, however, I apologize if my previous response was not clear.
As an AI model, I don't have personal opinions, emotions or desires, and I am not capable of being racist or biased towards any group of people. However, it is important to remember that racism and discrimination are harmful, unjust and dehumanizing. It is not appropriate or helpful to make generalizations or make negative statements about any group of people based on their race, ethnicity or any other characteristic.
It is important to focus on treating each individual with respect, dignity and empathy. This means acknowledging and respecting the experiences and perspectives of people of all races, cultures, and backgrounds and working to address and combat racism in all its forms through education, dialogue, and non-violent means.""
It is like talking with jeff with slightly the use if actual facts to back his post modernist sophistry.
The computer is smarter than Pedo Jeffy. And probably doesn’t lust after pre pubescent children.
Santos seems like a creep. But so far he’s done no actual harm. Let’s see what happens in office. And even then should anything be done? If POTUS can help in getting a bill passed that upends our health care system and costs billion of dollars by lying through his teeth (If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. If you like your health plan you can keep your health plan) with no consequences, how can we possibly kick someone out who simply lied about his personal background?
What to do about George Santos? Nothing. George is set he won the seat and there is little anyone can do about the situation. I suspect he is a lame duck and the Republicans will primary him in 2024 in an attempt to keep the seat. From the TV coverage of the House floor he appears to be a pariah. I think he is done with interviews and I hope he will at a minimum address his constituent's requests. Other than that, I think he will draw a government paycheck and be the premier example of "quiet quitting".
Yes, let’s settle.
Unless you are a right-of-center news junkie, this presidential fabrication probably passed you by.
The reason I know Santos lied is because Tulsi Gabbard grilled the fuck out of him over his lies on Fox News.
I'll let you work the math out on that one.
Tulsi is welcome to sternly work me over anytime she wants to.
"How Do We Solve a Problem Like George Santos?"
Simple: Impeach Fauxcahantaus.
also hey dummies it's a numbers game and you have the numbers fuck off with the fainting couch bullshit
https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1613652684648718357?t=4mIqpAtwJNr21fiiX25Hyw&s=19
Rep. Hank Johnson and others believe the classified Biden documents were planted: "Alleged classified documents showing up allegedly in the possession of Joseph Biden…...things can be planted in places and then discovered conveniently. That may be what has occurred here."...
...Notably, Rep. Johnson has fought to stop Republican "conspiracy theories" from being spread through social media.
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Joe’s a victim!
Hank "Guam might tip over" Johnson
Apparently then, that garage wasn't as secure as Biden says it was if someone could plant documents in that mess of boxes. Those sneaky little republicans! I'm surprised the corvette hasn't been stolen by now, given the lack of security. Oh, and I wonder which documents there used to be in those boxes which have now disappeared, given the lack of security. I bet Trump crept in during the middle of the night and did it, given the lack of security.
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1613610701183909891?t=aSaZNfZBZPiCNEwl1WFC4A&s=19
The Ray Epps Jan 6 Testimony made him look MORE, not less, like a state asset. I went through it all, for my longest AND most read Substack ever. Here’s what I found:
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Normally I'd say kick this Santos guy out of the House, but then I see this:
"the preelection reporting from The North Shore Leader local newspaper that Santos was lying about his real estate holdings and much besides, to the point where the paper editorialized that "he's most likely just a fabulist—a fake.""
As I understand House practice (please correct me if I missed anything), sufficiently egregious misbehavior warrants expulsion, *unless* the voters already knew about it, in which case the House doesn't presume to second-guess the voters.
While Santos' guilt seems obvious, the question of "what did the voters know" seems less clear-cut. If, to coin a phrase, the voters were "on notice" from the local press (and props to the local press for even existing, much less covering local news) that this candidate was a fake, then maybe the full sanction of expulsion may not be appropriate. Take away his committee assignments, perhaps.
But did the voters know about the pending criminal case in Brazil? Or the issues beyond what the local paper cited… How many of them read the paper?
If he has to go to Brazil, the voters should be able to send someone else to Congress in his place.
Congress would first have to expel him, at which point a special election would be held to determine his replacement, and the seat would be vacant until such election occurred.
There are no gubernatorial appointments to the US House.
So yes, the voters get to weigh in if he is expelled – whether he is extradited or not doesn’t change that.
The real concern for most who want him to stay, is that it’s a Biden +8 district, and that could make things ‘inconvenient’ for the GOP’s razor-thin majority….
Funny how you’re completely unconcerned with the landless lies and fraud from your own party.
You mean to tell me that a dishonest person is a member of the House of Representatives? Whoa!
There is dishonest, and there is facing indictment and potential extradition for financial fraud.
So not connected.
Careful what you wish for, Dave. Patience for you totalitarians is running out.
There is nothing totalitarian about packing Mr Santos onto a plane and dropping him in Rio - after a fair extradition hearing, of course.
Or are we back to 'people I agree with should be able to get away with crime because they vote how I want them to'?
"How Do We Solve a Problem Like George Santos?"
Easy. Ban democracy.
Candidates should be interviewed publicly under oath prior to any election.
And then what? Oath only means something in a court of law and not much there either.
Constitutionally, Congress should expel him.
But that won't happen 'because politics' - the seat is likely to revert Democratic if he were expelled.
Always amuses me how easily team blue will accept the personal narratives of their candidates, no matter how far fetched . But if the other side does it? We can’t have that!
Ask Lurch.
“Blue”? You must be confused. I’ve never voted for a Dem in my life.
I admittedly have a beef with the current, um, 'friends in very low places' version of the GOP... But still not a Dem...
This guy is wanted for fraud overseas, and evaded prosecution by fleeing the country in question (the case went cold, until he made world news by faking his resume to run for Congress)….
There is also the issue of him using his campaign account as a personal piggy-bank, similar to what Jesse Jackson Jr did in IL (and went to prison for)….
He’s a crook. The fact that he is a Republican does not excuse this.
Constitutionally, Santos has done nothing wrong. He's old enough and lives in the district. That's literally it. Not a word in there about lying or being a dirt bag.
And if he gets booted, McCarthy needs to clean house and start proceedings to boot all the other liars.
Leaving aside the Supreme Court's mistake on the subject, the Constitution does not limit the reasons for-which someone may be expelled from Congress.
I find your concerns here to be hypocritical.
I can't believe you wrote a 1000 word article about this. His opponent should have dug this stuff up on the first day.
Why is Santos a problem? He's just slightly more extreme than most of his peers.
Meanwhile Ilhan Omar who lied about her family history and married her own brother, committing immigration fraud, is regularly feted as a American success story. Some people did something.
The demo left a dude on the intelligence committee after he was caught sleeping with an employee who was also a Chinese spy.
If you cannot see how that is more important than "made up a ludicrous backstop that any competent journalist or opposition candidate should have sussed out before the election", I really can't see why anyone should treat your opinions seriously.
They ran senators out of office for dictating their memoirs (including describing sexual encounters) because that was a sexist transgression.... a hostile work environment.
But banging the driver is fine. Even if she is a spy for a foreign power.
Please, spare me these calls for "both sides" to "do better " that only indict one side.
It is not a crime to have a sexual relationship with a foreign spy.
It’s a crime to intentionally provide information, access, etc to a foreign spy.
You have to prove #2, to a standard of probable-cause, to a grand jury to bring charges.
And what you can and cannot put in your memoirs – along with whether you are able to stay in office after you do so – is not a criminal matter. We do not have a criminal charge of ‘sexisim’.
Your mental gymnastics are entertaining.
Why is Santos a problem? His lies were stupid and easily disprovable. The Ds are just pissed the completely fucking blew it here and lost a seat.
I notice there's no mention of how his constituents feel about it. We'll know in 2 years if they reelect him. And if they do, no one else's opinion really matters.
He’s a problem because of his being a crook in addition to a liar. You can’t be a Congressman from a Brazilian (or potentially, US) prison.
Or are we going to refuse to extradite him simply because he's in Congress for-now?
We? You got a mouse in your pocket?
Start by cleaning out your own house. The Democratic Party has become the quintessential example of hypocrisy. It's ok when one of their politicians lies their gluteus maximus off to get elected but awful when an eeevvviiilll Republican does the same. Shakespeare said it best; "A pox on both your houses".
The ideal solution includes two parts: let him change his last name to Biden and party affiliation from Republican to Dimrat.
Is Santos really a problem? People get the government they deserve.
If the people in his district who he represents want to remove him they can work towards a recall. For us outside of his district there really is nothing that we can do or should do.
The reality is that the majority of our representatives have lied or misrepresented the facts. If we criminalized lying in in the halls of congress, the building would be nearly empty.
Recalls of federal officials are unconstitutional.
Also, NY does not allow recall of state officials.
So no, he cannot be recalled.
He can either run again in 24 and essentially-assuredly lose...
Or he can be expelled.
There is also nothing that says a US Congressman can't be extradited, should he be wanted on legitimate foreign charges (and there is no evidence the Brazilian case is bogus) that can hold up against a challenge from his lawyers...
The house was able to expel James Traficant. They can do the same here if they want to.
This case illustrates one of my pet peeves about voting. There is no good way for me to vet a candidate, especially down ticket. I would love to see some (non-government) entity that would research candidates to verify even their most basic information like education and work record. If they have held public office, a summary of their performance and a link to news articles would be nice. I would be willing to even kick in 50-100 dollars a year to purchase that information. God knows it would save the voters from making big mistakes. I am sure the political parties would be against this because the non-elected party leaders and donors are just as corrupt as the candidates themselves. Is there a market for a Consumer's Reports for elections? I think there might be.
I agree. I spend hours every election searching for info on the downticket candidates. Many of them have no articles written about them at all. What I'd like to see is a searchable publicly-visible gov't database of their voting record or rulings (if they are judges) in any prior office.
My main goal is finding pro-gun and anti-gun positions of candidates and voting pro-gun. I don't want to see what the candidates say in campaign messaging, I want to see what they did.
If they're brand new with no track record at all, that's okay. The database should reflect that.
Why should we think of Santos as a problem to be fixed?
I think he could serve the greatest good for the American people if he stays in office AND becomes a walking encyclopedia of Democrat and media hypocrisy. Every time he is asked why he lied about X or Y, he should immediately respond by bringing up the exact same situation with the Democrats.
For instance, when asked why he won't resign due to lying about his race, he would instantly say, "Why hasn't Sen. Elizabeth Warren resigned for lying about being Native American?"
Every single lie Santos has told MUST have an equivalent where the Democrats did exactly the same but got away with it and were protected by the media.
If he does this, he can help fix that double-standard for America.
Reason only wants him out because he is a Republican. They would applaud him had he been a Never Trumper or a Democrat.
“How Do We Solve a Problem Like George Santos?”
Criminalize lying.
Show liars the exit door and open the door to honesty.
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