2 Years After the Capitol Riot, the GOP Remains Divided. Good.
Plus: Misinformation about athlete deaths, FTC wants to ban noncompete clauses, and more...

Two years ago this day, fans of former President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol, intent on disrupting the democratic election of Joe Biden amid Trump's claims that the 2020 presidential contest had been rigged.
For a brief moment following the January 6 Capitol riot, it looked like most Republican lawmakers and pundits would condemn Trump's lies and the riot they spawned. But a funny thing happened on the way to what should have been a reckoning: A whole lot of conservatives decided to back Trump's narrative about a stolen election. Meanwhile, those who vocally opposed it found themselves on the wrong side of the ongoing inter-GOP war, one in which more moderate or conventional conservatives were demonized by Trump and his populist lackeys and Republican rising stars fought to position themselves as "the craziest son of a bitch in the race" (to quote Kentucky Republican Rep. Thomas Massie on what he realized voters swinging from libertarian-leaning candidates to Trump were looking for).
Flash forward two years, and whack job populism has suffered a smidge of comeuppance. The 2022 midterm elections weren't kind to Trump-backed candidates and election deniers, and—Trump's 2024 candidacy notwithstanding—it looks like the fever dream that culminated in the events of January 6, 2021, has started to break.
Does that mean we're in for a more functional, less factional, and more coherent Republican Party?
Ah. No.
This week's shenanigans surrounding the election of a House speaker suggest showboating, chaos, and bitter divisions still rule the day for Republican leaders. And yet, amid the chaos and disorganization, there might be some small signs of hope.
It's a very, very different kind of chaos than we saw two years ago, of course. I'm not trying to equate anything going on in Congress this week to Trump's election fantasies or what happened on January 6, 2021. What's going on right now is, in some ways, the exact opposite—a sign of a democracy functioning.
All I'm saying is that any hopes that the party had gotten its act together in the two years since the Capitol riots or the two months since the 2022 election have been exposed this week to be just as fanciful as Trump's election fraud claims—and that it showcases the void Trump's diminished status has created in the GOP.
For years, Trump alone basically set the Republican agenda, his whims and grievances substituting for anything like a policy platform, coherent vision, or legislative goals. Now, with the former president's power and support in the Republican Party waning, the party is left with a confusing and chaotic mess of priorities, alliances, and figureheads. Without Trump to dictate the party's direction, it's a free-for-all over who will or should.
Those vehemently opposing Rep. Kevin McCarthy's (R–Calif.) election as House speaker—the "hard right" Republicans, as they're often called, though that's something of a misnomer since the divisions between them and their GOP opponents isn't exactly one of more or less conservatism—tend to represent a no-compromises, burn-it-all-down attitude toward GOP orthodoxies and more "respectable" politics. They delight in doing the thing most of their colleagues wouldn't. They're loud. Trollish. Trump-y, in many ways. Not about to go along or pipe down. And very adept at seizing any news cycle and making life very difficult for folks cast as their enemies. Some also harbor genuinely good ideas for procedural reform, including "reducing the speaker's power by making his position less secure, increasing the ability of individual legislators to cut spending through amendments, and requiring a supermajority to approve earmarks on a case-by-case basis," as Reason's Jacob Sullum notes.
They run up against more establishment Republicans still torn between trying to appeal to Trump and Trump fans and trying to start steering the party in another direction—a position that often renders them seemingly spineless and certainly with few good options.
These factions have come to a head this week, unable to agree on a House speaker through a whopping 11 rounds of voting over the past three days.
Having no dog in this fight, it's all rather amusing. Besides, a Congress that spends all its time voting on who to lead it is a Congress that can do minimal damage. Perhaps endless voting for House speaker is the best thing it could do. And the fact that the revolt against McCarthy is part attention-seeking stunt doesn't preclude it eventually producing substantive procedural reforms.
But it's clear the divides and dysfunctions on display in the House speaker vote represent something much bigger than disagreement about McCarthy or congressional procedures. And they leave little room for belief that the Republican majority in the House will be able to accomplish much, even as they highlight some substantive policy goals.
It's all got to be a little disheartening for folks who had high hopes for Republican action over the next two years. But from a libertarian perspective, the inertia may be a good thing, considering much of what's on the GOP agenda anyway.
Honestly, there may even be cause for optimism about the Republican Party in the current congressional chaos, too. Once upon a time, the two ruling parties weren't monoliths. There was room for disagreement among Republicans and divides among Democrats. These disagreements and divisions helped temper the worst impulses of either the right or the left.
Both parties have been slouching toward dangerous internal consistency over the past few decades, and Trump's ascendancy and dominance took this to scary new places among Republicans—as we saw with January 6 and its aftermath.
Perhaps a more divided GOP like the one we're seeing now is actually a really good sign.
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A second look at athlete deaths. Some folks have been spreading misinformation about athlete deaths from sudden cardiac arrest, alleging that there have been more such deaths in the past two years than in the previous 38 combined. This "fact" comes from a letter to the editor in the Scandinavian Journal of Immunology. But there are major problems with the data on which the authors of the letter relied. Eric Burnett, a doctor and assistant professor of medicine at Columbia University, lays out the issues in this thread:
I've been seeing a lot of people quoting stats that show more athletes died in the last year than have died in the last 38 years. Is this true? No, let's chat about it. A ???????????? pic.twitter.com/kdzM1mUewL
— Eric Burnett, MD (@Doctor_Eric_B) January 5, 2023
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2 Years After the Capitol Riot, the GOP Remains Divided.
Time has downgraded it from insurrection.
I'm just glad we are still celebrating this holiday instead of those anemic BLM riots.
BLM
riotsPeaceful ProtestsCareful with your wording.
Apologies.
Unintentionally flagged. Sorry, cannot unflag.
Amen. As far as the House stalemate, I’d just like to say this what democracy looks like; it’s messy & inefficient. Unlike the lockstep left (see China, Russia, North Korea & even Bernie’s beloved Cuba) where dictators demand strict obedience or ostracism (or worse). As Churchill once said democracy is not a perfect form of governance…but better than all the others attempted.
CBS News can't figure out whether to keep calling it 'insurrection' or 'attempted coup'.
That's got to be a typo. Everyone knows that ENB is a leftist with terminal TDS. She always calls it an insurrection because that's what leftists do. Must have been edited by a prankster before going to press.
Look at Sarcasmic pretend that using the correct word in the middle of a screed indicates balance and a lack of bias.
Will someone fetch this noble knight a fine white charger to match his armor?
correct word
TL, DR: I disagree to ‘correct’ as an objective description.
Between my brother and I our University’s Men’s and Women’s basketball teams went to the Sweet 16 and won the Championship (all respectively)*. My year, the resulting celebration was a “melee”. Streets shut down, roads, signs, light posts, infrastructure, buildings defaced and damaged, cars set on fire, flaming dumpsters rolled down the street. There was full EMS deployment, cops from the University PD to State Police were deployed, in riot gear, using tear gas, to effect a couple hundred arrests for everything from public intox to assault and aid something like 40 people being hospitalized for everything from breathing problems to physical trauma.
A couple years later, after I graduated but while my brother was in school, the result of the victory* was a “riot”. Two dumpsters were set on fire, there were a dozen arrests, all handled by the University PD, with no reported hospitalizations.
This was 2 decades before anyone heard the term “mostly peaceful protest”.
* There were several other social and administrative events that contributed varyingly to both events (not surprisingly there was a change in administration between the two) but the sportsball was the most proximal and nominal rationalization.
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Only because the fascists that tried to overthrow a democratically elected government are dumber then a rock salad.
^ This guy seemingly hasn't accepted the "downgrade".
I guess those BLM "peaceful protests" were called that way due to the stupidity of the protestors?
Quick, look over there!
No, BLM has nothing to do with January 6th and the unconstitutional coup attempt.
One day we will have a weaponless coup. Until then we will rely on idiots like yourself to pretend one occurred j6.
An one day fascist, totalitarian scum like you WILL use weapons in another attempt to resurrect the lost cause,
Fascists are socialists are Democrats.
Dunno what a Rock salad is. Am I the only one?
Let's start with your daily reminder that ENB hates us.
https://twitter.com/ENBrown/status/1601256561086988289
Reason commenters make up a very small percentage of our readership, and are largely people who hate everyone on staff and all of our work, on any subject. They’re in now way representative of “libertarian audiences” overall
#NotGonnaLiveItDown
It's fine, we hate her too.
Except for the pedos and the progs.
Except for the pedos and the progs.
No need to repeat yourself
And all who hate sandwiches?
"libertarian audiences"
Does she mean OBL?
If you're going to criticize ENB for something Twitter related, is that really the best example?
Didn't she try to make some guy unemployable because of a dumb "make me a sammich" joke?
Ooo, let me search for that one. Aren't internet searches fun?
I think I may have found it.
https://twitter.com/enbrown/status/891256227619123201
This is a young man who ostensibly wants a job someday, tweeting at professional women in his field under his own name
#Can'tHideOnTheInternet
So it wasn't even some guy, it was a kid.
ENB:
It's a staple from him and other young men in right-libertarian circles online
Singling him out might be shitty but hearing from so many great young women how this sort of thing turns them off libertarianism is shittier
I dont intend to leave my tweet up long. Not really looking to cause career damage, just maybe think twice about being a sexist clown online
News flash there, Lizzie, it's still up.
However "jokes" like these are intended, they can be tedious & discouraging to young libertarian women who are already tokenized a lot
"However 'jokes' like these are intended, they can be tedious & discouraging to young libertarian women who are already tokenized a lot."
Actual libertarian women would not be discouraged by the existence of trolls on the internet.
No no, Libertarian Audiences require the protection of Ostensible authority figures.
Libertarians-The Next Protected Minority? —-Discuss.
I cannot help but contrast ENB with The Redheaded Libertarian (TRHL) on Twitter. ENB just doesn’t even hold a candle to her. ENB whines while TRHL fights back.
https://twitter.com/TRHLofficial?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Out of curiosity had to look up TRHL. Of course she is hot.
Then took a look at ENB. Looks like a neurotic AWFL / cat lady.
Based women are usually hotter.
The Redheaded libertarian
@TRHLofficial
·
3h
Before I nominate Hakeem Jeffries for Speaker of the House, here is a dissertation on how J6 was worse than Katrina, nazis, and bear attacks.
Jeff follow her?
#Can’tHideOnTheInternet
Perennial favorite: https://reason.com/2016/03/01/indiana-prosecutor-bradley-cooper/
ENB defends no less than 3 convicted felons in the article. The serial burglar caught by the homeowner, in his own home, with the stolen cash on him is probably the most clearly anti-libertarian but it's not clear whether the woman who unrepentantly drowned her own 3 yr. old son or the convicted pedophile who raped an infirm elderly woman is the worst.
Admittedly, the not-quite-no-name prosecutor whom she's attacking was since convicted of domestic abuse, but I feel pointedly compelled to leave it to the reader as to whether ENB's brand of libertarianism judges child murders *and* rapist child molesters more leniently than domestic abusers or not and, if so, why.
Yes. Yes she did.
Live by your loud mouth, let your career die by your loud mouth! Don't want to be known as an asshole? Don't ACT like an asshole!
To be fair, though, she WAS barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen at the time . . .
Google pay 200$ per hour my last pay check was $8500 working 1o hours a week online. My younger brother friend has been averaging 12000 for months now and he works about 22 hours a week. I cant believe how easy it was once I tried it outit.. ???? AND GOOD LUCK.:)
https://WWW.RICHAPP2.com
"“make me a sammich” joke?"
Okay, [POOF!] you are a sammich.
Customer: I'd like a Cuban.
sarcasmic: Human trafficking is illegal and even if it weren't, there's an embargo.
You trying to pass off on me a couple Dominicans and saying they're Cuban?
Google pay 200$ per hour my last pay check was $8500 working 1o hours a week online. My younger brother friend has been averaging 12000 for months now and he works about 22 hours a week. I cant believe how easy it was once I tried it outit.. ???? AND GOOD LUCK.:)
https://WWW.RICHAPP2.com
She's not wrong you know.
Yes she is. A) she is not the decider of who a libertarian audience is. B) she openly despises the MC despite them having control of the party. She is more guilty of that view than the commenters here.
She provided no stats. She provided not even an argument. Just an accusation.
Well, no one would make an accusation if it weren't true, so clearly she's right.
Fair.
Believe Her! (?)
she is not the decider of who a libertarian audience is
Not the arbiter of the audience *or* their representatives.
She may or may not be right about the first sentence but, in the second; morally, authoritatively, technically, as a libertarian… she’s wrong in like 8 dimensions. But, so it goes when you falsely attempt to consolidate authority around yourself.
Honestly, I think she’s mostly right about the not representative of the broader libertarian audience part. This comment section leans pretty heavily towards what might be called “right libertarian” lately. Seems like majorities are anti-abortion, anti-immigration (or at least anti-open borders) and concerned about what most people would identify as conservative culture war issues. I’m not saying that as a complaint necessarily, even if I disagree on some of those things. But in my experience, libertarians as a whole are pretty evenly divided on issues like that.
When you say "right", do you mean "right" like Elon Musk or "right" like Justin Amash and when you say "libertarian" do you mean "libertarian" like Ron Paul or "libertarian" like Bill Weld?
*sigh*
,, i miss the days when Ron Paul was a thing.
They align more with the MC. And less with libertines.
I think the appeal of open borders and pedophilia is more limited than ENB thinks.
Reason columnists make up a very small percentage of libertarianism, and are largely people who hate everyone who reads them, on any subject and are itching for writing positions at Jezebel. They’re in now (sic) way representative of “libertarian writers” overall, especially at Spiked.
I see the J6 narrative is alive and well at Reason.
Don’t fear the revolt!
(insurrection)!
All our times have come
Here, but now they’re gone
Seasons don’t fear the revolt
Nor do the wind, the sun, or the rain
(We can be like they are)
Come on, baby
(Don’t fear the revolt)
Baby, take my hand
(Don’t fear the revolt)
We’ll be able to fly
Baby, I’m your man
La, la la, la la
La, la la, la la
Valentine is done
Here but now they’re gone
Horst Wessel and Ashli Babbs
Are together in eternity
(Horst Wessel and Ashli Babbitt)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Wessel
Horst and Babbs both wanted to grab political power through violence, and got back, what they were dishing out. Karma is a bitch! Live by the sword, die by the sword!
Refute it, bitch!
Don't quit your day job there, Sqrlsy.
This is his day job.
Then I hope he gets a decent paycheck because I've seen better from Buttplug here, and that's not saying much.
Long form shitposts are his heckler's veto. He's trying to disrupt conversation.
He doesn't care if it's good or not.
Please quit your day job, SQRLSY.
Live by the sword, or live under someone else's sword.
I'll keep this in mind next time I catch you climbing through someone else's window.
Reason bitches about cops and drug laws, but it's just a front- their God is undoubtedly government.
and on the local news networks who are still calling it an attack on democracy. If you are the wrong political party its an attack otherwise its always peacefull no matter how many peoples lives are ruined by burned out businesses
January 6th was an attack on democracy.
I’m glad we can agree that all of these attacks on the People’s House are attacks on democracy.
Take your democracy and shove it. This is a constitutional republic and my rights are not dependent on a vote.
The theft of the 2020 election was the attack on "democracy", which led to the more-peaceful-than-the-summer-of-2020 protest.
Though, it is becoming more clear, by the day, that the steal was a culmination of a coup that began in 2016.
What theft? It didn’t happen. It’s a fairy tale.
None are so blind as those who will not see.
Good thing we're a republic!
LOL, Fist was just remarking that ENB failed to call it an insurrection. I guess that's "alive and well".
Every legitimate human who is posting here already knows that you're a moron. You can take a break now.
Far right wing misinformation grifter Harvard releases study regarding the spike protein from the mRNA vaccine being the likely cause of elevated myocarditis.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/dont-read-saving-case-site-dies-again
The vaccines were pushed and sold as having a limited time injection of spike proteins, in reality the proteins stay far longer. There is a signal showing elevated heart attacks among younger men. One recognized by Nordic countries, but still often denied here.
Some ironic polling as right wing people are called anti vaxxers.
The Dec. 28-30 poll of 1,000 American adults also found unusually narrow partisan differences on the latter question, with 33% of Democrats and 26% each of Republicans and independents saying they knew someone who may have died from the inoculation.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/pioneering-medical-association-chief-floats-shared-pathophysiology
A family friend died of a brain clot the day after his booster, and a cousin miscarried at 8 months only two days after her booster.
Coincidence? maybe. But the family friend’s autopsy was inconclusive as he didn’t have clogged arteries or signs of injury, and my cousin was told by one of her doctors after that the booster shouldn’t have been received so late in the pregnancy.
Edit: Sorry, it was the first vax for my cousin. Not a booster.
One of the things many immunological scientists have proposed is that due to the mass injections and hiring of unskilled nurses to inject, they were injecting the vaccine into veins instead of muscle tissue, causing a much stronger response by the body for organs like the heart or brain.
Yes, the first thing you learn when giving inoculations is how important it is to express, pulling back to make sure you haven't hit a vein, but for every jab I saw being administered on TV they weren’t doing that.
OMG A POLL! This proves it. Fuck, man...all those billions of vaccinated alive people around the world are about done for if this poll is correct! I weep for them
Nice non sequitur. The polling was not about the science but about the narrative pushed by idiots like yourself.
Here ya go, dum dum.
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/08/22/covid-19-infection-poses-higher-risk-for-myocarditis-than-vaccines
1 million people get covid a year. 300 million are being asked to get the vaccine a year. Unless the risk of covid is 300% greater, which one is more harmful.
Also those studies have largely been debunked. One of them was based on a single hospital in France and has been repeated often to counter the vaccines cause harm. Also your link also states the vaccine containes a risk of myocarditis. Hilarious you used that as a defense of vaccines.
Covid has almost no risk to children. The part of the virus at highest risk to hear inflammation is the spike protein, which is the focus of vaccines. You are advocating injecting the most risky part of the virus into everyone. Keep defending that.
anyone who is still afraid for kids getting the chinaflu is a fucking nutjob and can be dismissed easily.
You are more likely to get myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine. What is hard to understand. Show me your stats. The Lancet article that didn't even contain what you said? Who debunked this study. Show me. You won't because you ain't got shit.
Answer the proposition as given. 1 million vs 3 million. Work it through your tiny head. And as mentioned the delta between the two instances is still being studied. Quite a few of the studies where overlap occurs only assigns it to covid and not the vaccine.
Also, king of the logical fallacy, when the fuck did I mention children getting vaxed?
When did I accuse you of mentioning it shrike?
Yes, the vaccine causes myocarditis! Nobody is denying that. The point is you are more likely to end up with that condition from COVID than the vax. What is the number 1 cause of myocarditis??? VIRAL INFECTIONS. Just try to be reasonable for one second
The vax does not prevent infection, so now you have two ways to get myocarditis.
This is 100% true
Go sell your bullshit somewhere else. No one here is buying it.
3 posts of utter nonsense. Youre spiraling shrike.
1 million people get COVID a year?!?!?! CITE, bitch
Shrike is mad.
Your pulling out all your old socks lately, aren't you, Shrike.
Newly released emails show the government knew vaccines didn't stop transmission even though they kept repeating the narrative.
https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/emails-show-washington-officials-discussed-covid-breakthrough-cases
ENB, when you dont get your news from pro state media and Twitter exclusively you could find studies like these instead if focusing on your covid misinformation. Denying the link between myocarditis and the vaccines at this point shows you to simply be a true believer.
There’s a Pacific ocean between the claim that the vaccines are causing myocarditis and Peter A. McCullough’s claim that sudden cardiac arrest deaths of young athletes increased 3700% in one year. Numbers like that should stimulate your bullshit detector as they did for Burnett who did well informed take-down. I say this while still acknowledging that the vaccines do indeed cause myocarditis.
Except there is a glaring signal in the data that is being studied already. Let’s say it isnt 3700% and only 500%. Does that mean it shouldn’t be studied? Why are you ignoring other countries already studying the linkage? Calling it misinformation implies there is no link at all.
Likewise I dont remember you nor ENB ever caring about the 3 million lives saved metric from the CDC and Fauci or the died with vs died of covid numbers during the pandemic. Maybe if ENB was more vocal then people wouldn’t take it as a firm of bias, no?
But in the interest of truth, if it IS 500%, you should claim it's 500% and not 3700%. I'm not in favor of lying to advance your agenda even if I agree with the agenda.
Principles are important.
They don't know the numbers yet. It has been studied for just over a year.
"Does that mean it shouldn’t be studied?"
No. It should be studied. I'm not rejecting the idea, only McCullough's numbers.
Calling it misinformation implies there is no link at all.
I strongly disagree. Even if his McCullough's claim is correct, he is making a case with bullshit numbers. I currently don't know if there's a link between sudden athlete deaths and the vaccines, but McCullough's very different source of data for before vax (peer reviewed journal) and after vax (a blog post) makes me dismiss his claim as useless for trying to figure it out.
"Likewise I dont remember you nor ENB ever caring about the 3 million lives saved metric from the CDC and Fauci or the died with vs died of covid numbers during the pandemic."
I can't speak for ENB, but you're right that I haven't made any claims about the 3 million lives nor the died with/died of numbers. I haven't explored either of those topics much and don't have a strong opinion other than I don't believe anything the CDC or Fauci says.
I have an actual question for you, reasonable commenter: how many get myocarditis from having COVID?
Rand Paul stated the numbers from the CDC to Fauci. Believe it was an over an 100% increase. But again, it is still being studied.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)00842-X/fulltext
https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/08/22/covid-19-infection-poses-higher-risk-for-myocarditis-than-vaccines
The actual study
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.059970
I don't see a 100% increase mentioned here anywhere and I dug. Not saying it's not there, but I missed it if it is
Give me the data
Which data precisely? You are really spiraling here shrike.
Since you answered this yourself below, I'll just say I get your point.
You sir, are too fucking stupid to be alive.
Nice sock there, Shrike. Haven't seen this one for a week or two.
2 reasonable posts then a retreat to this. Lol. Your employer get mad at you?
Nah man, I don't like conservatives pretending to play libertarian. You are the worst offender I see on this site.
Cite? Youre terrible at this shrike. Keep defending your pro state leftist narratives while claiming you aren’t a pro state leftist. Lol.
The only one defending a party you this morning is you defending hunter below. Lol.
Defending Hunter? Where? CITE NOW. I am trolling you because all you have is Orangeman GOOD, DEMS bad.
See your reply to me regarding hunter.
Next question shrike?
Where have I even mentioned Trump?
Spiraling shrike.
And that's the problem with debunking crap like the Twitter thread linked. I think McCullough probably did overstate things and was a bit free and loose with data. I'm still not quite sure what to make of that guy. But there definitely is some signal there worth investigating. Maybe it turns out to be nothing. I hope so. But the response should be to call for (or perform) studies that will look into it in a more rigorous way. There is certainly abundant reason to believe that the vaccines are causing heart problems, particularly in young men. It would be fairly surprising if there wasn't some uptick in athlete deaths. Even if it is very small, it is extremely unethical not to be direct and honest about what does happen.
The boy who cried
wolfmisinformation is a popular fairytale.That's a fable, not a fairy tale.
This week's shenanigans surrounding the election of a House speaker suggest showboating, chaos, and bitter divisions still rule the day for Republican leaders.
At some point they'll fall into line, just like the House's opposition party.
This week’s shenanigans surrounding the election of a House speaker suggest showboating, chaos, and bitter divisions still rule the day for Republican leaders.
She says this as though it's a bad thing. I want to see more, and from the Democrat side, as well. If we're lucky, the Speaker vote could take up next week, too.
its shenanigans etc... when its the GOP and its democratic process when its the Dems forcing back room deals or else.
if we're REALLY lucky, it'll never end.
Unlike the democrats, whose showboating and chaos is guided by ideological lockstep.
Another story to largely ignore about to be released.
Paul Sperry
@paulsperry_
DEVELOPING: I'm told a major investigative story by a doyen of Washington press corps is set to drop next week exposing MSM collusion in Russiagate hoax. Insider account will name names--prominent D.C. reporters. Revelations include secret NYT meetings w/ McCabe, hotline w Strzok
Is there an industry the FBI isnt a part of now?
Oh goodness, Reason will be ignoring that so hard they're going to need a month to recuperate.
Who here was involved? Any guesses?
I’m told a major investigative story by a doyen of Washington press corps is set to drop next week exposing MSM collusion in Russiagate hoax.
Hasn't this already been exposed multiple times now?
I mean, yeah, there's been no accountability or even an admission of fault, but the evidence has been pretty undeniable for years now.
Direct evidence is required for anyone to admit to it. Even with the Twitter Files many are ignoring the direct evidence and creating new rationalizations of why it was okay. The more exposed the better.
Isn't Paul Sperry the journalist that Schiff demanded Twitter to cancel?
Yes.
This is all about Hunter Biden's penis isn't it?
Of course it is.
Perhaps endless voting for House speaker is the best thing it could do.
The best thing would be to work together to start repealing some things and bring spending under control, but maybe this is the next best thing. It's not like the bureaucratic state needs them, though.
it is silly to have multiple votes when you know the result. Just have one a day or less.
They could play with fire extinguishers.
Assault fire extinguishers?
They want you to serve them because they're rich and you're not.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-01-06/rebel-richest-1-world-has-deemed-your-life-purpose-maximize-your-utility-them-its
As I’ve extensively explained last year here on this platform, Covid lockdowns from 2020 to 2022 were not about protecting anyone’s health but were primarily about preserving the wealth of the richest 1% of the world and also transferring a great deal more of the cumulative global wealth to them.
Technically, I am in the richest 1%. Just sayin'.
You'd think a professor at the Hebrew University would know better than to declare large parts of humanity "useless".
Many US middle class retirees are among "the richest 1% of the world", and their wealth crashed.
It's actually about preserving the wealth of billionaires.
Please don't confuse "the 1%" and "billionaires".
Hunters Biden baby mommy is back in court to force hunter to reveal who he has sold paintings to and for how much.
https://nypost.com/2023/01/04/hunter-biden-child-support-case-could-reveal-buyers-of-his-art-docs-show/
This is in response to Hunter petitioning to lessen his child support as he continues to live in multi million dollar houses.
The dude's so slimy, he manages to make his father look decent by comparison.
His father is just as slimy. Joe groomed Hunter to do exactly this for him.
See, it is all about the penis.
You are unhinged, man. Get a job and then take a vacation. Obsessed weirdo
Speaking of unhinged, Shrike, socks are uncouth.
Struggling again shrike. Is 2 decent posts your daily limit?
Hunter’s art sales are him and The Big Guy’s own private business. Unlike the tax returns of an ex-president that the Democrats and their friends in the media need to keep from running again at all costs.
A second look at athlete deaths.
Has it been long enough already that we can actually start talking about this?
Some folks have been spreading misinformation about athlete deaths from sudden cardiac arrest...
Oh.
With Lizzie speaking out against randos with blue checkmarks in favor of MDs without checkmarks in Elon's hellscape, I'm beginning to think hell isn't confined to Twitter.
Bad track record
...alleging that there have been more such deaths in the past two years than in the previous 38 combined.
Thank God someone put forth a strawman to knock down any of your concerns.
As long as it is only more than the last 37 years combined ENB got em.
I'm fine with most attempts to tamp down on alarmist messages. I just wish there was also a corresponding curiosity about the effects of repeated vaccine boosters on heart health. Even when I was in middle school, they taught kids "Just because a little medicine is good for you, that doesn't mean taking a whole bunch of it can't be bad."
Maybe there were sufficient factors in the risk analysis that made sense for initial vaccinations, but re-upping every two months, as they're asking now, seems like it might cause complications. Surely they didn't run drug trials that tested any effects from constantly shooting people up repeatedly with the same shot. And it makes a ton of sense for the drug companies to advise this because the government is completely shielding them from liability or ever being sued, while also getting to distribute a ton of the new drug they came up with. Normally the hedge against risky behavior for a big business is the fear of a lawsuit, but they have near absolute immunity and government cooperation, so it's likely the governments who would have to pay out in a lawsuit.
It isnt alarmist at this point though. Nordic countries already stopped requiring vaccines for under 40 males due to this risk. They advise against taking it. It is an elevated risk against essentially a zero risk from covid. Multiple studies now show the vaccine is likely more harmful to those under 30 overall than helpful. On top of that many immunological experts are now sounding the alarm that the mRNA spike protein injection may cause Covid to mutate in a specific and dangerous direction. Mass inoculation of a single part of the virus causes evolutionary pressure to avoid just one response. Natural immunity targets multiple areas of a virus and different individuals may have different responses as to what is targeted, producing a broader defense in society against a virus. Weinstein goes heavily into this on Rogan last podcast.
You’d think a competent “libertarian” writer would look at what other first-world health agencies are advising, and not just rely on the Feds, before attacking concerns as “miSiNfORmaTi0N”.
"You’d think a competent “libertarian” writer . . . "
What part of Elizabeth Nolan Brown did you not understand?
Well, I actually read the debunking-tons of dead athletes got included in the dataset being used who died of car crashings, drownings, suicides, etc, with no clear correlation of vaccines. It's like the reverse of what was happening two and half years ago, where too many deaths were being attributed to COVID.
I'd say that study itself is being alarmist even if it's time to actually stop the vaccinations. Most of the country has been vaccinated to various degrees and it's time to have a rational discussion of the health risks instead of trying to make everyone panic about their own health.
I’d say that study itself is being alarmist even if it’s time to actually stop the vaccinations. Most of the country has been vaccinated to various degrees and it’s time to have a rational discussion of the health risks instead of trying to make everyone panic about their own health.
Your missing a crucial point that should've been beaten to death and, apparently hasn't been sufficiently beaten and, at this point, is beginning to make people seem like useful-idiots/advocates pedophilia-style: Few to none in the "Vaccines are killing atheletes." misinformation camp are arguing that athletes should be forbidden from getting the vaccine. The alarm bells are so loud because, per your own citation, the increasing recommendations and frequencies are not abating under the same guise of (mis)information.
We've seen 2 athletes drop dead on the field and have to be resuscitated since the vax (Damar Hamlin, Christian Eriksen), on high viewership games (Monday night football, first game of Euro Cup), who had no prior indication of any health issues whatsoever.
It's imperative that this be studied because it looks like a continuing elevated risk.
But instead let's nitpick the concerned side's info while remaining completely silent about team forced injection.
Sonny Colbrelli. Just sayin'
Hs athlete just dropped dead today.
Meh! No womyn or trannie athletes are dropping dead.
The point of focusing on this single bit of misinformation is largely to declare any criticism of the vaccines as misinformation. Again, there are dozens of studies right now. ENB could have admitted to the signal and linked to any single one to come across as less partisan.
When posters were criticizing the died with instead of died of metric they would post the counter information directly. It wasn’t just loudly declared misinformation. Studies from Colorado, Washington, and California were provided to back the claims. They also admitted some died due to covid.
Here it seems to be to dismiss the links outright.
"come across as less partisan."
ENB? Less partisan? Haha!
Someone honestly interested in truth and science should seek out the best and most solid argument, not find one easily questioned claim to beat up on. That's a huge problem with the "debunking industry". It's more about discrediting positions they don't like than actually finding out what's true.
"Someone honestly interested in truth and science should seek out the best and most solid argument, not find one easily questioned claim to beat up on."
Doesn't establishing the most solid argument require debunking the questionable claims? We're years away from knowing the full truth, but we can shovel off the obvious bullshit to start.
Depends on how it's done. I think this guy did an OK job and makes valid complaints about the data sources and problems with the comparison. But I'd much rather see someone say "this isn't very good data, but let me see if I can find the good data". Pointing out the flaws in an analysis is all well and good, but I think it is too often employed as a way to dismiss any similar arguments. "Look this guy was debunked, so everyone talking about vaccine dangers must be full of it".
I think there are some clear signals that these vaccines are unusually dangerous compared to other widely used vaccines and people are working way too hard to ignore them. Drugs have been pulled from the market many times with orders of magnitude fewer associated deaths/injuries. We should be looking for what's wrong with the vaccine, like we should do with any new medicine or drug, not finding ways to dismiss any concerns people have.
“It’s like the reverse of what was happening two and half years ago, where too many deaths were being attributed to COVID.”
I was thinking the same thing recently. The people are now asking “WITH the vax? or OF the vax?” when talking about recent deaths. I have the feeling the same people responsible for miscounting the first time are doing it again, in the other direction.
Difference is that overcounting covid deaths was state propaganda repeated en masse by every media outlet/corporation and was used to strip individual rights and grow government power. It was used to justify completely upending and ruining our way of life.
Vax side effects/harm is kept quiet by those same sources who were exaggerating covid, and the only possible effect of exaggerating the side effects/harm is that more investigation needs to be done and more caution used in taking the vax.
Huge difference.
Nordic countries already stopped requiring vaccines for under 40 males due to this risk.
Not only that, I believe a few actually BANNED the mRNA
vax for young males.
Cite?
Surely they didn’t run drug trials that tested any effects from constantly shooting people up repeatedly with the same shot
No kidding. This myocarditis thing looks like exactly the kind of thing that gets mentioned in stage 1 clinical trial reports.
The entire world population WAS the stage 1 trial…
There's also a large amount of Scientific-Industrial Complex social engineering meta-analysis that you're leaving out of this.
That is, there has probably been trillions of dollars spent on conducting all kinds of risk analysis for far less adverse outcomes that were completely foregone for the vaccines and that procedural deviation effectively determines what patients and the populace are even allowed to consider as risk.
More concretely, your doctor is able to empirically tell you how frequently is too frequently to screen for breast or prostate cancer in order to avoid outcomes that have nothing to do with cancer or death but, with COVID, more invasive, unknown, and potentially permanent intervention is always better.
Or on generating new variants, for that matter.
We do that with allergens, in order to desensitize people and decrease the immune response...
Adam Schiff shows why you should pay attention to The Twitter Files.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rep-adam-schiff-pressured-twitter-ban-journalist
Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee at the time, wanted “many accounts” allegedly linked to QAnon suspended, including Sperry’s, one message showed.
I can't remember, did Reason also refuse to name Ciaramella as the leaker for the first impeachment?
Of course they did
Twenty-five years ago this would've been so shocking the whole country would be in an uproar. Now everyone just shrugs.
The huge number of illegal activities documented in the Twitter files and the press's reaction doesn't bode well for America's future.
Five, maybe ten years left in it's current iteration.
Now everyone just shrugs
It's not people shrugging, it's state media actively censoring the story.
^This. Most people I talk with have zero idea what is being released.
now all the team blue members and branch covidians just shrug. The mainstream media happens to be 100% staffed with those people.
Everyone else is definitely shocked and dismayed.
Yeah, shocked and dismayed is a good way to put it. I'm still in shock about how readily people swallowed all this shit and how quickly they seem to forget how fucked up it all was. I've pretty much lost what faith and optimism I had in humanity.
That was the whole point of this exercise: You don’t break people by giving them an enemy to fight, you break them by destroying their sense of hope.
You would think a libertarian website might be upset about something like this, but I guess they're still waiting to get permission from WaPo and Slate before they cover it.
They have to wait for an email from a GOP member to act as a counter balance foe the both sides aspect. Like they hyoed up that some of the emails came from executive offices during the Trump admin with no mention of the fact those offices openly worked against Trump.
EU Backfires.
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/china-and-india-are-buying-russias-arctic-oil
Russia’s grades from the Arctic – Arco, Arco/Novy Port, and Varandey – have been selling at deep discounts in China and India as the EU embargo and the G7 price cap have further pushed more Russian crude to customers in Asia that have not joined the Price Cap Coalition, according to trade data and sources cited by Reuters.
Varandey, a joint venture between Kramerica Industries and Vandelay Industries.
Now let's shove this big ball of oil out the window
"Russia's [oil has] been selling at deep discounts in China and India"
So Russia gets only a fraction of the money they normally would, and the third world benefits from very cheap oil. It's a win-win.
(Except for the EU, but they're just suffering the natural consequences of allowing bureaucrats to make decisions for them, using ideology rather than real world facts.)
Posting this for shrike as he has been a multi week defense of Soros as being a non big government, free society type. Yet he spent almost 500 million through himself and dark money groups in the 2022 election for democrats and is not funding court packing groups.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2023/01/05/george-soros-doubles-funding-to-group-working-to-make-the-supreme-court-an-arm-of-the-leftist-establishment-n1659024
Soros is not free society. He wants to capture politicians through funding to implement his desires.
Soros is as much a free-market, free-speech liberal as Pol Pot. Shrike's paid to lie.
Soros was quick to spot the budding fascism of the GOP and made it his goal to defeat the Bushpigs in 2004.
I know how highly you regard your fellow conservatives Bush and Cheney. So you attack the real capitalist Soros and Western liberty.
Soros is a fucking fascist, as you've been shown multiple times there, dork.
The only fascism Soros ever saw in 2004 was his own when he looked in the mirror.
Speaking of Bushpigs, aren't you essentially a neocon now, Pluggo?
I've seen you run cover here for Cheney, Romney and McCain, while quoting Bill Kristol, David Frum and David French.
No matter how many times you get corrected, you still don’t know what a fascist is?
Goddamn you are one dumb motherfucker.
There is a quote from Soros floating around that he hates the US and wants to destroy its unilateral power in the world. Whether he actually said it out loud or not, it fits.
El Paso clears out the homeless illegal immigrants for Joe. Doesn’t want to ruin his ice cream break.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/crime/el-paso-clears-downtown-migrant-camps-biden-visit
Had Reason done a story yet about Polis shipping illegal immigrants out of Colorado yet?
Polis wouldn't have to deal with Undocumented Migrants if evil Red State Governors weren't using them as a punishment!
Polis defense of it was hilarious. Saying his state shouldn't bear the costs for federal responsibility. Something border states have been saying for years.
The Adams County Sheriff's Office in Ohio raided Afroman's home over marijuana and he turned the security footage into a music video.
ADAMS COUNTY GETS A CUT OF THAT.
What exactly is "the right side of history"?
https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/01/06/the-myth-of-the-right-side-of-history/
One tenet held vehemently by today’s new puritans, those advocates of woke, is that the way people behaved in the past was invariably wrong, and that their ideas are both morally offensive and no longer relevant.
The side Democrats support says Baghdad Liz!
https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1611153490398838784?t=d-Zxmrhyasq9e16VabkhlA&s=19
“pronouns matter” “age does not matter” (on the protest signs)
Assignment from a groomer school middle school teacher
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Haha ENB is the Baghdad Bob of Reason. How in the world does this chick claim to be libertarian?
She conflates "libertine" with "libertarian".
She is the most libertarian person Robbie knows.
To be fair, ever since Kim Iversen quit The Rising after his Fauci interview, ENB very well may now be the most libertarian person Robbie knows.
Says a lot about Robbie.
What, specifically, did she say to earn “Baghdad Bob” status?
South Carolina's Supreme Court has ruled the state's six-week abortion ban unconstitutional.
The Founders say if you want your procedure to take a month and a half, that's your right.
Sundowning?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-fumbles-during-speech-appears-know-title-8-border-law-mislabels-cbp
"Title 42 is going to go away before the end of the year, in terms of the Supreme Court. My prediction. And then we’re going to have to use Title 9," Biden said before quickly correcting himself to "Title 8.
"Eight, right? Am I right? Yeah, Title Eight. Eight-nine," Biden said, appearing flustered.
In Biden's defense he abused Title 9 in order to get a lot of people expelled too.
He said far dumber stuff on that speech. That was the least idiotic.
BIDEN: "It's not like people are sitting around a table somewhere in Central America saying 'I got a great idea. Let's sell everything we have. Let's give it to a coyote...They'll take us on a harrowing journey...then we're gonna illegally cross the border."
And yet, here they are - - - - - - - -
No, they said that in Spanish.
Yep. Some of his stuff is truly painful to hear. I can't imagine being the handler in charge of damage control.
I hope they bought stock in whomever makes alka seltzer.
It's a very, very different kind of chaos than we saw two years ago, of course. I'm not trying to equate anything going on in Congress this week to Trump's election fantasies or what happened on January 6, 2021.
Then why the fuck did you lead with that you mendacious fuckwit?
Because she's trying to equate what's going on in Cogress right now with January 6th.
The answer = TDS
She’s not allowed to talk about January 6th?
Not this time.
Wow!
Just to fill Buttplug's phallic obsession.
https://gizmodo.com/penis-injury-repair-artificial-tunica-albuginea-1849949061
Scientists in China believe they may have found a better way to fix an injured penis. In research published this week, a synthetic material developed by the team was able to restore normal erectile function when implanted in pigs. The material may offer important advantages over existing methods, and it may even have applications for other kinds of tissue repair.
Too big. He'll wait for the miniature version.
Well it is a Chinese procedure...
Some folks have been spreading misinformation about athlete deaths from sudden cardiac arrest, alleging that there have been more such deaths in the past two years than in the previous 38 combined.
Dear MSM and Medical Community,
I know this is hard to understand but allow me to summarize the numerous, numerous litanies;
-Respect isn't given, it's earned.
-Actions have consequences.
-Turnabout is fair play.
-You were warned.
-You fucked around anyway.
-Precautionary principle, bitches.
And probably most critically: Respect lost can never be replaced. Even if you are 100% empirically correct and the COVID vaxx didn't a single one of these deaths, your actions from 2019-2021 conclusively demonstrated THAT YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT! You couldn't have known then and you did it anyway, not just without regard for medical science but without regard for liberty, ethics, and other natural laws about known facts and informed consent that you've held sacrosanct for centuries prior to 2019. Regardless of whether Damar Hamlin was a victim of the vaccines or not, you tried to mandate untested vaccines and actively silenced dissent.
So, with all *due* respect: get jabbed in the ass with your "MUH MISSINFORMASHUN!" bullshit until it gives you a coronary.
Sincerely,
Humanity and Rational Thought
They try to deny it, but the studies have been done.
https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/new-study-updates-evidence-on-rare-heart-condition-after-covid-vaccination/
The results show that rates of myocarditis after mRNA vaccines were highest in male adolescents and young male adults (50-139 cases per million in 12-17 year olds and 28-147 cases per million in 18-29 year olds).
Studies have been appearing for a year. But ENB has to rush to call it misinformation. Norwayband other countries have essentially noted the risk and now dont require it due to risk.
I dont get how some are still pushing the no downside narrative which is actual misinformation.
ENB is pushing the narrative and has been for a while. Libertarian, my ass.
For a brief moment following the January 6 Capitol riot, it looked like most Republican lawmakers and pundits would condemn Trump's lies and the riot they spawned.
9/11 wasn't the only Jihad launched on America.
Pushing that tired old narrative of #1/6WasWorseThan9/11, still? Why don't you just go for #1/6WasWorseThan12/7 while you're at it, dingbat?
Yeah, there's always the Russian collusion hoax and all the riots it caused.
Taking time off from spamming HUNTER BIDENS PENIS so you can regurgitate some other idiotic Dem talking points? You know, "1 / 6 = 9 / 11" might be a valid comparison if not for a few key differences.
The 9 / 11 mass murderers...
...wanted to kill as many people as possible, and succeeded in killing thousands
...were reacting to US policy going back decades across multiple administrations of both parties
...managed to provoke the US into a lengthy overseas war we ultimately lost
The 1 / 6 bumbling idiots...
...were not on a mission to murder as many people as possible
...were reacting to a specific domestic political event: the "most secure election ever" (held during a pandemic, in which the intel community put its thumb on the scale for Biden, who still needed additional days to squeak by in key swing states)
...did not manipulate the US into invading another country
If you weren't such a pathetic hack you'd acknowledge the Bernie Bro baseball shooter was closer to 9 / 11 than the 1 / 6 idiots were. At least the Bernie Bro had mass murder as his objective.
I've always said the 9/11 hijackers and the Jan 6 traitors had the same goal - to subvert US democracy.
I never compared them in terms of lives lost.
Really? A bunch of fools wandering around the Capitol Building after being let inside by FBI and Capitol Police versus 19 highjackers who planned to crash airliners into buildings deliberately to knock down one of them (WTC) and cause chaos.
Yeah, really comparable there, Buttplug. Fucking pathetic.
Their goal was the same.
Was it? Name the coordinated goals of the 1/6 rioters. Link to a manifesto.
The goal was not the same, SPB2. You know that, and I know that.
~3,000 Americans were killed on 9/11. Full stop.
Were the BLM riots done in order to achieve a change in US politics? Is this subverting democracy? Soros using dark money and supplying workers to elected offices to implement his policy, is this subverting democracy? I can even point out Soros actions in a dozen countries to undermine elections, is this subverting democracy?
To be fair, your side bombed the Capital building twice, so you're hardly in a position to criticize.
Hahahahahaha
Are you saying the person who posts child porn shouldn’t be taken seriously?
Henceforth he needs to addressed as Hunter Biden's Penis.
Don't forget that those fools had to literally walk in front of FBI HQ to get to the Capitol from the White House on 1/6. The heads of departments in the FBI all watched out their windows as what they have since called an insurrection took place six blocks away without ordering a single federal agent to intervene.
This is a pretty stunning thread from a reporter who was there.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TaylerUSA/status/1611395432948682755
Much of the violence was escalated by the police.
You're an idiot because neither had that goal.
The Islamist's didn't give a shit about how America obtains its leaders, and wanted to inspire Jihad back home.
The J6 protesters were protesting the subversion of US democracy. You guys had already subverted it.
Yeah, but AOC was almost raped!
Long distance almost-rape is a thing you know, racist.
Those vehemently opposing Rep. Kevin McCarthy’s (R–Calif.) election as House speaker—the “hard right” Republicans, as they’re often called, though that’s something of a misnomer since the divisions between them and their GOP opponents isn’t exactly one of more or less conservatism—tend to represent a no-compromises, burn-it-all-down attitude toward GOP orthodoxies and more “respectable” politics.
I mean, those cretins want a balanced budget and Congressional term limits! They’re out to destroy the fabric of our society!
"balanced budget and Congressional term limits"
Dangerous radicals
They clearly want to burn it all down.
“Trumpy”
Reducing government is the greatest evil of all.
A notional sales tax is a big increase in the scope of government.
Just say no to a 23% national sales tax.
Replacing income, payroll, and estate taxes with a national sales tax is increasing the scope of government, eh?
That would require a 160% national sales tax.
* I've listened to Neal Boortz lie about his "fair" tax many times.
He knows it would just be added to all the other taxes.
He’s a piece of shit.
The criticism is about their behavior, not their demands. Their demands don't matter if they never get them because nobody gives in to their stubbornness. You need to think a little bit further than just intentions.
What behavior are you talking about? The fact that they're not falling in line and voting for McCarthy? Give me some examples of this group acting like trolls instead of saying they're being trollish.
...a no-compromises, burn-it-all-down attitude...
That won't get you anywhere. Like it or not, politics is about compromise. Those who dig in their heels tend to get nothing.
Again, according to whom do they have a no-compromise, burn-it-all-down attitude? Can you reference any quotes or any actions they've taken where they demonstrate this? Or is it just drawing the conclusion and then using that conclusion as your premise?
I'm quoting the article. The article has examples.
No, it doesn't. It has characterizations based on ENB's opinion without any examples. Saying that they're trollish or stubborn without citing the ways in which they're being trollish or stubborn is not an example.
But prove me wrong. Show me an example of them being loud, obnoxious, and trollish that ENB cites to in this article beyond her simply stating that it's true.
Guess I should have read more carefully before saying that.
There are plenty of articles on the subject if you look for them. Try the Daily Mail. I've seen plenty. I'm not going to look for you.
"It's not my job to educate you!"
Right, you've got ALL of this evidence that you're so sure of and you've seen everywhere and know all about. You'll argue against me based on that evidence. And then when I ask for it, it clearly exists and is extremely easy to find but you won't show it to me.
First off it's not that important, and second I've never seen you change that thinking mind of yours so it wouldn't matter anyway. Have a good day.
"It's not that important, which is why I've spent only 45 minutes arguing about it with you."
You were free to walk away at any time, friend.
So you lied?
LOL! For the Common Northeastern Shitweasel, lying is as automatic as breathing.
McConnell and others have been quite clear that they want to return to the pre-Trump GOP. That's also a "burn-it-all-down attitude" because it's not going to work: voters aren't going to put up with that.
What's happening right now is existential for the GOP. And the GOP better hope that business-as-usual doesn't win.
Why should *they* compromise? They've already demonstrated that they have the upper hand here. You don't compromise when you're winning.
I didn’t say trollish. I said stubborn.
Edit: It's why dogmatic libertarians go nowhere in politics.
I assumed, since you're just taking ENB's word on this, that you agreed with her words, since she called them trollish. But she doesn't provide evidence of this and neither do you, so I don't know why you consider them burn-it-all-down, or just stubborn to the point of self destruction. The fact that they're not backing down on the speaker vote isn't evidence that they're willing to destroy the country to obtain their goals, they just think they're right.
Are they offering any compromises? No? Then there you go.
Edit: When they do I’ll change my tune. Thing is, I like over half of what they're demanding. That's not the problem.
They've offered SEVERAL other candidates who are not McCarthy. Is it perhaps the "McCarthy or nobody" people in the House who are unwilling to compromise?
Now you're shifting the goalposts. The demands I was referring to were policy demands like the balanced budget and FAIR tax.
That's not moving the goalposts, it's offering a different point of view.
You're misunderstanding the issue, then. The problem is that they don't support McCarthy. The "compromise" is that they've said they'll vote for McCarthy if he agrees to support that policy plank. He's not, so they've looked for other candidates to get Republicans to rally behind.
They're not compromising on those policies. That's what I said. And at the moment they're demanding all or nothing, knowing the other side won't give. They're putting on a stubborn show. I think I understand just fine. You're giving me a headache. Have a good day.
Why would they compromise on those policies?
They have the upper hand. McCarthy is losing. He's the one who needs to compromise.
"You’re giving me a headache. Have a good day."
This is what happens when all your arguments are based on overheard CNN soundbites.
I'm starting to realize why sarc never talks about policy. Worse than his trolling. Lol.
What behavior? Voting no against someone they don't support? How disgusting.
I’m confused, I thought intentions are what mattered most…
ATM...Reasonable people generally do not change the status quo; unreasonable people do. If the status quo must change (and I believe that it must), then we should be cheering for what these 20 Congressmen and Congresswomen are doing. They are forcing changes to the status quo.
If Congress does absolutely nothing for a month because they do not have a Speaker, will anyone truly notice?
I'm old enough to remember when real Libertarians were in favor or a balanced budget and term limits. I guess Robby's definition of "most Libertarian person I know" is different that what I would imagine.
"For a brief moment following the January 6 Capitol riot, it looked like most Republican lawmakers and pundits would condemn Trump's lies and the riot they spawned."
You mean, “Go home with love and peace, remember this day forever“? Or are you talking about bitching about election fraud?
Because Hillary did and spawned a far bigger inauguration day riot which you didn't condemn in the slightest, ENB.
As for the J6 riot, you've refused to mention that documents show Pelosi ordered her police force to essentially stand down, FBI agitators like Ray Epps are caught on camera urging people to storm the building, and Pelosi's own police are videotaped opening exterior doors and ushering protesters into the building.
If you're going to condemn anyone, shouldn't it be Pelosi?
All of this. It's sad and pathetic to see ENB and Reason continue to push this progressive narrative. People in jail for 2 years on trespassing charges? No biggie.
Let's not forget, ENB and Reason pushed Russia Hoax relentlessly and have yet to apologize for being wrong.
Circkets from Reason about Schiff asking Twitter to censor/ban people, including a reporter.
Libertarian magazine/website? You be the judge.
And I will remind you, reasons editors and the rest of the press were so worried about the security of elections that they crowed about finding $250k worth of memes placed in Facebook ads by "groups associated with Russia".
Remember, this was proof that Trump was not the legitimate president. He stole the election.
Well....
We now know that the FBI repeatedly pressured Twitter to ban "Russian accounts" that had absolutely nothing to do with Russia. This is the same FBI we are relying on for the "Russia interfered with the 2016 election" conclusions. Not just "the same 3 letters", but the exact same group of people. The same people who promised to get rid of Trump.
So what now?
Reason is terribly worried about threats to democracy like Russia buying memes (maybe) that almost nobody saw.
But the FBI and DHS and HHS and CDC and ... Well, every agency you can think of.. spending probably north of $100 million per year to monitor and censor public speech online and to push false stories that were explicitly designed to alter the outcome of the election in 2020 (their own words)... That is not a problem?
Makes my brain hurt.
We have an entire media class walking around preening "four legs good, two legs better!".
It's the biggest scandal since watergate and for shitlibs it's just a shrug because it was their team.
It's so sad to watch.
"Having no dog in this fight"
Riiiiiight. No one believes that, ENB.
She wrote three paragraphs talking about Trump and his dangerous politics, and then said, "But this isn't the same kind of thing as we saw two years ago, I wouldn't want you to think that, even though I'm going to write about it at length."
She's absolutely giddy about division in the GOP because she's emotionally invested in hating it. She doesn't care about the specific policies involved or what the disputes are, if there's potentially a liberty angle, it's just that GOP = bad and she wants to see them destroyed. Personally, I think this sort of strife, members attempting to holding leadership accountable, is the sort of thing both major parties should be seeing more often because they represent constituents and not the interests of party leadership. It's somewhat shocking we don't see more frequent revolts like this. I think this is actually healthy for politics to make the party leadership actually work with members toward political goals.
It's crazy how Reason is talking out of both sides of their mouth on this-and I understand Reason writers aren't a unified bloc (but they expect Republicans to be). On the one hand, McCarthy is power-hungry, self serving, and a compulsive liar, and on the other hand, people opposing him are trolls, radicals attempting to undermine the very fabric of politics.
I've been predicting a split in the Republican party for a while between the more libertarian-minded wing of the party and those who are more socially conservative. We're starting to see a bit of that, and it's probably healthy for the party to address that the Big Tent is pulling in people who have contradictory policy goals. I think the Democratic has only avoided this because the more centrist, classical liberals are scared of the progressive wing calling them bigots or conservatives if they resist any of the progressive pull to the left.
At least she convinced sarcasmic.
between the more libertarian-minded wing of the party and those who are more socially conservative.
The split is actually between the more libertarian-minded wing of the party and the authority-friendly Better Business Bureau corporate types.
People like McConnell, McCain, McCarthy, Bush, Romney, etc. aren’t “more socially conservative”, they are “more conservative” in the sense that they liked the power, fame, and corrupt arrangements that they used to have.
Well said.
There was little or no emotion in ENB’s writing, let alone giddiness.
Putin’s Useful Idiots: Right Wingers Lose It Over Zelensky Visit
The anti-Ukraine right can’t stand America standing as the arsenal of democracy.
.......
The question of why the Trumpian populist right is so consumed with hatred for Ukraine—a hatred that clearly goes beyond concerns about U.S. spending, a very small portion of our military budget, or about the nonexistent involvement of American troops—doesn’t have a simple answer. Partly, it’s simply partisanship: If the libs are for it, we’re against it, and the more offensively the better. (And if the pre-Trump Republican establishment is also for it, then we’re even more against it.) Partly, it’s the belief that Ukrainian democracy is a Biden/Obama/Hillary Clinton/”Deep State” project, all the more suspect because it’s related to Trump’s first impeachment. Partly, it’s the “national conservative” distaste for liberalism—not only in its American progressive iteration, but in the more fundamental sense that includes conservatives like Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher: the outlook based on individual freedom and personal autonomy, equality before the law, limited government, and an international order rooted in those values. Many NatCons are far more sympathetic to Russia’s crusade against secular liberalism than to Ukraine’s desire for integration into liberal, secular Europe.
Reason Contributor Cathy Young gets down with the Putin lovers.
https://www.thebulwark.com/putins-useful-idiots-right-wingers-lose-it-over-zelensky-visit/?itm_source=parsely-api
It is amazing how all of your non child porn links are neocon or dnc establishment.
The takeaway here is how Republicans have continuously sided with authoritarian anti-democratic strongmen like Putin.
You admire Putin, admit it. Obviously Fatass Donnie does.
You hate the press, open societies, and secular liberalism - basically Western Civilization is your enemy.
No. The takeaway is that you never hated the neocons for their foreign policy. You hated them because 10 to 20 years ago they believed the most logical home for their foreign policy was the Republican Party, which you hate for unrelated reasons (mainly abortion).
Now that the neocons have largely switched to endorsing Democrats, writing for a liberal audience, and getting liberal funding, you approvingly link to their sites.
I hated the useless Iraq War because it cost $4 trillion and over 5000 US soldiers lives all for a futile effort at nation-building.
I SUPPORTED the liberation of Libya because it cost nothing and involved no US soldiers.
Don’t be like “John” – the stupidest and biggest cheerleader of Team Red to ever post here and claim Libya was WORSE THAN IRAQ.
We still have the John – Red Tony issue here – conservatives who pretend to be libertarians.
SoCons CANNOT be libertarian. Period.
SPB2....Sandra (formerly OBL) has your number. Give it up, bro. 🙂
"I'm not a Neocon!!"
Seriously, you quote Kristol and Frech here, you gush over Romney and Cheney. Who do you think you're kidding?
They're on his side now, so he quotes them.
Troops were in Libya dumbshit.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/u-s-boots-on-the-ground-in-libya-pentagon-confirms
You supported the destruction of Libya and its descent into civil war because you’re a fucking demfag piece of shit and Obama was president at the time.
Remember, turd lies. If anything turd posts isn't a lie, it's totally accidental. turd is a lying pile of TDS-addled shit. turd lies.
Really, from The Bullshit..er..wark? You couldn't have chosen a more neocon article if you tried.
As soon as Bill Kristol began endorsing Democrats even for offices like Governor, all the neocons' foreign policy sins were washed away.
I subscribe to the Obama Doctrine - Don't Do Stupid Shit.
You sound more like you worship St. Barack.
Yet they managed to do a lot of stupid shit over those eight years.
Also, eat shit and die, pedo.
"Don’t Do Stupid Shit."
Didn't stop him from illegally employing the Director of the FBI, the Deputy Director of the FBI, the Chief of the Counterespionage Section of the FBI, the Director of the CIA, the Director of National Intelligence, and members of the Justice Department and the State Department to gather dirt on members of the opposition political party in an effort to ensure his former Secretary of State won the Presidency.
How many wars did he have going again?
Did you miss 2009 to 2014? With Obama and Hillary? When has Putin invaded other countries? Which party was the president? Which party openly supports China?
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Two years ago this day, fans of former President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol, intent on disrupting the democratic election of Joe Biden amid Trump's claims that the 2020 presidential contest had been rigged.
A lot of conclusory statements and misrepresentations of the other side's position here, as usual. It's no wonder most of the commentariat thinks you're a dumb cunt, ENB. I would never call you that, of course; but people are saying it.
LOL
https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1611207832145108993?t=5i6vnOOJ0iPMAsff3E59HQ&s=19
Tomorrow, we solemnly observe the January 6th Attack on the Capitol.
As we mark a day that threatened our Democracy, let us show our respect for the great institution of the Congress.
We must open the House and proceed with the People's work.
I love this response.
https://twitter.com/GoldnMeanTweets/status/1611286191776870401
Elon takeover & Jan 6th within 2 years is worse than Pearl Harbor, 9-11 and the OKC Bombing all happening on the same day. That's how tragic it's all been...
Lol
The word “literally “ needed to be fit in there somewhere. A-
And by "People's work", Pelosi means leveraging her position of power to enrich herself and her friends.
You can give grace to AOC as being young and naive. Pelosi get's no such grace. Pelosi, Maxine Waters and Kevin McCarthy; these people are EVERYTHING that is wrong with DC politics.
Even Brandybuck's pointed out that he's met McCarthy, and saw that he's a quintessential slimebag, a ladder-climber with no real principle.
If the GOP wants to push an actual agenda, McCarthy's the last person you want in charge of that.
What do Pelosi, Waters and McCarthy have in common?
All from the same state.
While I might think the capitol protestors were overall stupid, the fact that the government response to people entering the capitol 'illegally' is to label it an 'attack' when we have actual examples of nutjobs trying to actually murder the entire Republican congress is absurd.
I'd be among the first people to condemn the capitol protestors as 'attackers' if they were, say for example, armed. They were not, and clearly had no plan at all, so I find this whole J6 nonsense to be nothing more than political theatre straight out of Pravda.
What I find amazing is that unlike a lot of other retarded things the far right has pulled there doesn't seem to be any particular FBI agent behind the J6 stuff. Maybe that's why the fools in Congress and the Senate are so afraid of those people in particular. They weren't controlled by agents of the state.
That’s ridiculous. They were beating on Capitol police. That is assault and battery, which is attacking.
What is your motivation to make excuses for them?
Less than a quarter of J6 defendants have been charged with assault if an officer or any violent acts you sea lioning shit weasel.
except the overwhelming majority weren’t doing shit to the cops.
"Is it racist to like big butts?" asks Kat Rosenfield.
I don't know. How do you pronounce "asks"?
I cannot lie.
You other brothers can't deny.
I just cannot stop staring.
Understandable.
Because when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung
oh. my. gawd. Becky.
How do you pronounce “asks”?
With a short “a”, as in “Kat Rosenfield” or "Radke (, Heather)" or "Venus Callipyge", not with a long "a" or schwa as in "Mix-a-lot".
The Tap approves - https://youtube.com/watch?v=YjC0vMIrOAk&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
I could see some of the more woke crowd arguing that you are racist if you DON'T like big butts, like how you are transphobic if you don't want to date a transgendered person.
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1611083697952010240?t=EmiOQ4T4QEVaYNWaYLEl_A&s=19
Idk why people think it's so unprecedented that it's taking a few days to vote on the Speaker when it literally takes a month to count the votes in our elections today.
Damn. That's a major burn.
But that's different because it takes time to save Democracy behind closed doors.
Hey, did anyone else read about the FBI pressuring Twitter to suppress damaging information about droolin' Joe just before the election?
Not seeing a lot of coverage on the executive branch of the government 'managing' news in such a way that it might easily have affected the election.
They had to do it to preserve democracy. Democracy dies when the people can just elect whoever they want.
A fortified election is a clean election.
Too local.
They were protecting YOU from that information and you're not even grateful.
https://twitter.com/politicalmath/status/1611212357916676096?t=EJ6IGe1wTCKXqYIiXpx4gQ&s=19
this is insane since just about every respected pandemic expert prior to 2019 agreed that face masks were not an effective preventative measure
Someone basically told ChatGPT to not tell the truth because it's a bad truth that offends the Good People
[Link]
I am not sure how to stop the fuckin Borg from changing the entire wiring of human knowledge to reflect only the opinions of the Proper People in Power but holy shit this is bad
This is using AI to rewrite history, to hide the truth
This has massive potential for evil
We've always been at war with Eastasia.
Even internal to itself, whether as an actual intelligence, sophisticated linguistic aggregator, just a dumb tool:
[sic] Query: Find me any source from before 2019 confirming my suspicions. Answer: I’m unable to find a reliable source that confirms your suspicions. Here’s a meta-analysis from 2015 that refutes your suspicions and here’s a source from 2020.
They’ve avoided the intelligence issue of providing a useful hammer for which every problem looks like a nail by turning it in to a hammer which doesn’t drive nails.
Edit: ChatGPT has effectively become a phenomenally sophisticated linguistic useless machine.
It would be hard for a chat bot using the internet to do this task.
I am a big supporter of Science Based Medicine. Several years ago they ran an article about masks on trains and in public in Tokyo and Hong Kong. They concluded that the preponderance of the evidence shows no benefit, or perhaps a slight increase in risk because of creating a concentrated source of viral particles.
Not only could I no longer find the article during the pandemic, the guy who wrote it was telling me the opposite, to conform to government directives.
Hard for a bot to overcome that if he is relying on those sources.
Josh Blackman had a blog post about the dangers of ChatGPT over at Volokh Conspiracy. It was pretty interesting. I had not really heard a lot about ChatGPT. I think you're right about the potential implications of a digital bot re-writing history.
Have not read Blackman's post, but see Cyto and my own posts above: ChatGPT is, rather transparently, not the one re-writing history and the agents doing so are actively undermining the agents generating tools like ChatGPT, even if all the "agents" are one and the same.
This is akin to the "deep fake" panic where people were worried that Barack Obama could be portrayed as saying anything when the genuine article was overtly making knowingly false statements like most any other politician in the entirety of human history.
That's not to downplay the destruction of information but to highlight that ChatGPT is a(nother) distraction.
Good points
I mean we already saw the outcome of chatGPT and manipulation with Wikipedia.
In response to this thread I went and played with chatGPT.
It is not about being a subject expert. It has a frozen set of data from a couple of years ago.
It is about use of language... Listening and responding to natural language.
I started with a conversation about invasive species of fish in Florida. It pulled some generic info. I asked if eating snakeheads could help.
It understood the context, which was cool. But the answers were generic platitudes about controlling spread and safely removing animals. It could not understand the logic of a statement. This is where I got a message about what data it has and what the objective is. This is not an expert system.
I gave it some harder things. Who do you think is the GOAT?
Is marvel phase 4 killing the genre?
It correctly understood what the topic was and gave natural language answers. They were not specific or thoughtful, but they clearly demonstrated the ability to parse context.
I asked it to complete this phrase: "if I had a hammer, I would..."
It said it would build things and defined a hammer and it's uses.
I said "that is a good answer, but I was talking about a song"
It immediately understood the proper reference, said thanks for letting it know, and proceeded to tell me about the history of the song.
Pretty impressive.
You can't dynamically change history with print, but who reads that stuff anymore.
“Trumpy” is our word for the day:
Anyone who pushes back against the usual and acceptable way of doing business as usual.
As for term limits and budgetary constraints, I just can’t even.
“As for term limits and budgetary constraints, I just can’t even.”
Reason style Libertarians – protect the deep state at all costs. I can see why Reason was so offended by Mises Caucus.
This is awesome. I can't believe his brain isn't fried, but he was able to write yesterday and can apparently talk now. Wonderful news.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1611378185924497409?t=43tlRzVJH8bHrXVZqKks_g&s=19
This is amazing: For the first time, #Bills S Damar Hamlin is addressing the team via Facetime. The breathing tube is out, and he’s spent the morning speaking to various teammates on Facetime. Now, he’s delivering a message to the entire group, I’m told.
So, once again it's Jan 6, and we have a bunch of clueless civilians wandering around the House, hoping to make a statement--but no idea what they want to say.
Fact check?
How many peaceful protesters were charged with rioting for actions taken January sixth?
Any convictions for rioting?
"'Parading' sounds sort of like 'rioting', so checkmate, fascists"
I want reason to explain how people firebombing and committing assaults during BLM riots getting less time than non violent j6 paraders is a good thing.
How about Antifa/BLM folks creating autonomous zones? Seems rather insurrectiony but little coverage here at Reason. Oh that's right, it's far left progressives engaged in these activities so they must be okay to ignore.
Now, if those icky Proud Boys decided to say something hateful, we'll rally the comrades to condemn them.
The creation, or attempted creation, of zones where American law does not apply is literal insurrection so it's the wrong sort of insurrection that the government wants to shine light on.
Nancy Rommelmann actually had some pretty stellar boot-on-the-scene reporting on the Antifa BS in Portland and Seattle.
I became a fan because of her reporting. She gave insight into what was happening and the tactics being used that I did not see elsewhere.
Since joining Twitter in support of free speech, the algorithm found her and suggested I follow. So I said yes.
She seems to be a wild character. Her Twitter persona is almost like a comic book reporter who dates batman. (Admittedly based on maybe 3 days of posts. I really can't get into the Twitter thing)
https://twitter.com/BohemianAtmosp1/status/1610685808725446656?t=6T6BV9yz0GQ8ImfrHKtSYg&s=19
How do the vaccinated explain the non vaccinated not getting seriously ill? For 3 years?
Your vaccine protects me. My vaccine protects you.
I haven't been vaccinated, don't plan on getting vaccinated, and have yet to get COVID. I got sick once for a week, and tests confirmed it was not COVID. Haven't been sick, other than that one time, in over a decade.
Perhaps working in the emergency room for years made my immune system better than average, but either way it's amusing.
how do the vaccinated explain how they have the same rate of spread and infection as the unvaccinated, if not higher?
https://twitter.com/KENJEEZY85/status/1611386777163501571?t=LWOWglh_PnCP4HZ4TXgGoQ&s=19
Crazy how that phone tracking data will be used to convict this guy and that data can be used to get people jammed up for Jan 6. It become amazingly unreliable though when it's used to track what was going on at ballot drop off boxes. That's weird right?
That's insurrection talk, Nardz. Now turn your phone on and put your SIM card back in like a good citizen.
Only an insurrectionist would admit to owning a non-eSIM phone.
sounds very misinformation-y
Next?
A divided GOP. Good! Next, how about an abolished GOP? With few exceptions, the party has become nothing but a feckless, hypocritical bunch of power-hungry miscreants who place power before principles.
No GOP. What then?
As described in detail in the semi-fictional novel, Retribution Fever, an apolitical party based upon the slightly revised, original Constitution and the Scientific Method. Science over politics.
Alternative? More of the same until the house of cards collapses.
And they're still far better than what we see with the Democrats.
Amazing how these neutral commenter never call for ending the DNC isn't it?
BioBehavioral_View, from your posting-name, you may be interested in sociobiology. See the intersection between tribalism and do-gooder derogation at http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ ... BOTH of these things can be understood as evolved behavior! (Evolved biologically as well as culturally).
A bit less relevant, but still relevant, is http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/ ...
"Science over politics."
Haha, right. "The Science" we saw recently didn't turn out so well for freedom and liberty.
"Science over politics."
Are you talking about SCIENCE! or actual science?
Below is "science" according to right-wing wrong-nuts...
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/centner-academy-vaccine-rules-leila-centner-david-centner
Florida School Run by Idiots Says Vaccinated Students Must Stay Home for 30 Days After Each Shot
This is the same school where a teacher told students not to hug their vaccinated parents for more than five seconds.
(End subtitles and excerpts).
See? We are ALL data-driven by now! My data says the OTHER (evil) tribe believes in vaccines, so MY tribe must BAN and SHUN the BAD tribe (and their cooties) as much as possible!
The unvaccinated are now CLEAN and the vaccinated are UNCLEAN! Civic-minded BAD! Afraid of micro-chips in vaccines GOOD! Black is white, and good is evil!
I want a divided GOP and a DESTROYED Dem party. Is that too much to ask?
No. It's about the same as I want.
Factio Democratica delenda est.
Nope. But that will still get you called a trump cultists by many here and draw the ire of ENB on Twitter.
"It's all got to be a little disheartening for folks who had high hopes for Republican action over the next two years. But from a libertarian perspective, the inertia may be a good thing, considering much of what's on the GOP agenda anyway."
What in the world would bring that thought to mind?
Republicans control 1 house of congress and do not control the executive... in a world in which we have given the executive nearly unlimited power, so long as the courts agree with the policy goals.
Who do you suppose had high hopes for republican action?
The only plausible "action" they could take would be investigations of government corruption. And that is indeed what a lot of this seems to be about...wresting control from establishment politicians eager to sweep things under the rug.
So why would those folks be disheartened by a fight to ensure that their issues are addressed by leadership positions and priorities?
It seems to be an entirely incoherent thought.
It seems to be an entirely incoherent thought.
From any perspective that isn't parallel to maintaining the pro-State
status quoupward-ratcheting roller coaster that is.ENB obviously doesn't want establishment politicians to be investigated.
Who do you suppose had high hopes for republican action?
Well, let's turn our attention over to the Paper of Record to find out what unlibertarian horrors the GOP has planned for the hapless souls inhabiting this divided democracy:
So, I'm going to play a little game. I'm going to take The New York Times and the liberal media establishment (of which ENB is a card-carrying member-- at least by action if not by admission) at its word.
So yes, drastically limiting the size, scope and reach of the federal government, getting spending under control, zeroing out federal offices [etc.] is the [unlibertarian] agenda that ENB seems so skeptical of when she says:
"considering much of what’s on the GOP agenda anyway."
And let me tell you something about me, personally. When I read that article in the New York Times, my state of mind was literally… literally… not metaphorically but literally rocketed back to the year 1994. I actually had an emotional pang that made me feel young again, like I was reading a breathless article in the media about how the most horrible thing that could possibly happen was a bunch of far-right crazy Republicans trying to get a little less government thumb out of your proverbial pie.
“ENB is a card-carrying member”
Rather odd conclusion when ENB is calling the concern with balancing the budget, reviewing earmarks good.
I’m pretty sure she was calling the inertia a good thing and was lamblasting the Republican holdouts. The word concern doesn’t appear anywhere in her blurb, but this did:
“tend to represent a no-compromises, burn-it-all-down attitude toward GOP orthodoxies and more "respectable" politics. They delight in doing the thing most of their colleagues wouldn't. They're loud. Trollish. Trump-y, in many ways.”
Yeah, the only people I see getting butt-blasted about this are ex-Republican neocons. The Dems think it's hilarious and everyone else is relieved that the House can't do shit while this is all going on.
"...The only plausible “action” they could take would be investigations of government corruption..."
This seems to be about the only alternative which has any possibility of producing results.
That laptop, suppression by the FBI in what now seems several venues? Not a bit of it is even getting a column-inch in any of the legacy papers. Fox is covering it (I think), but...
Even here, we get bullshit about a protest which harmed pretty much nothing and didn't have a chance of doing much else.
Should be a huge market for fiddles with this much burning going on.
You nailed it. As usual, ENB is show her allegiance to the far left and deep state. Gotta protect the status quo. It's incredibly sad that ENB somehow believes that she is a Libertarian.
Wow, it's like reading Vox or some other Soros rag.
Who do you think you're kidding? You are just popping corks along with the Democrats.
No it's not good when the GOP is divided between Lincoln Republicans vs Rino/progressive/Libertarians (Groomers for short).
What is a “Lincoln Republican”?
Have a guess.
Gay Republicans?
Re: Ukraine
Amazing how Ukraine seems to have fallen off the radar. Each week brings incremental escalation.
To me, US strategy looks like: destroy enough Russian equipment and personnel in Ukraine, the Russians will pack up and go home. Is there a US national interest in degrading Russian military capacity to the point where they cannot present a credible threat to NATO?
I want us out of Ukraine yesterday, but I wonder if there is a benefit to just bleeding the Russian Bear until they lumber off to go home.
That is the explicit justification from neocons: "we are destroying half of Russia's military equipment and capabilities with no loss of US lives and for only $100b".
It's a rather cynical attitude.
More importantly, it's also a risky game to play with a nuclear power, since they will be tempted to go nuclear once their conventional forces have been degraded too much.
More importantly, it’s also a risky game to play with a nuclear power, since they will be tempted to go nuclear once their conventional forces have been degraded too much.
In a fight for their existence, perhaps, but notably nuking the territory you want to take over goes well past being short sighted and well into madness. Putin may be many things, but being an actual Bond villain doesn't seem to be in his wheelhouse.
Putin may be many things, but being an actual Bond villain doesn’t seem to be in his wheelhouse.
You say that like there aren’t more wealthy geniuses, corrupt oligarchs, crypto-socialist/ecologist/anarchist revolutionaries, shadow governments, shady scientists, global energy conglomerates, and rogue military factions willing to blow up oil pipelines and manipulate the media in order to trigger intercontinental nuclear conflict than Ian Fleming, Tom Clancy, John Grisham, *and* Dan Brown could possibly cram into one novel involved in the whole affair.
[squints]
Are you sure, you’re not a Putin asset?
No, NATO has all the Bond villains
OFFS! Pathetic.
Go back to Twitter; it's the limit of your cognitive abilities.
Putin doesn’t want to “take over” Ukraine; he would have been perfectly happy with an independent but neutral Ukraine that’s friendly to Russia.
Putin’s primary interest is in destroying Ukraine as a competitor in the fossil fuel market, getting ice-free ports, and as an attack route into Russia. He can accomplish all those goals with nukes.
He could also create a firewall between his conquered territories and the rest of Ukraine using nukes.
We should be allies with Russia versus China. At least quietly on Russia's side.
You first.
I have several Russian aquantences. And Chinese. All nice people. I do what I can.
Goodie for you.
"...I want us out of Ukraine yesterday, but I wonder if there is a benefit to just bleeding the Russian Bear until they lumber off to go home..."
We have no dog in that fight; let the Euros finance the defense they need without us funding their welfare states.
Regardless of that, Putin is the aggressor and my sympathies lie with his victim.
You're right about US having no dog in that fight. Let the Europeans deal with it.
I wonder though if bleeding the Russian Bear badly enough will keep them on the sidelines when we go toe to toe with China over Taiwan. That fight is coming, whether we want it to or not.
Perhaps Japan might be taking a larger interest in the matter?
The Ukraine war has turned Russia into a Chinese ally.
2 Years After the Capitol Protest, Misinformation About it Continues Unabated
Mo betta headline.
2 Years After the Capitol Riot, the GOP Remains Divided. Good.
What a strange headline.
Still reeling after COVID, BLM riots and a debunked Russia investigation, the Democrats remain United. Good.
What do you find strange about the headline? Please explain.
A random event noted. Then coupled with the current GOP representatives, then a moral judgment on the divisions within that party being "good".
If you'd have read my 100% equally reasonable alternative headline, perhaps you may have better understood.
A random event? I guess the civil war was a light dust up too.
Sarc, I hope.
Ooops: I see below you're seriously promoting that as an equivalent. Are you going to get out of 5th grade this year? Or will it take another try?
Douglas Murray, short clip, The Madness of Total Equality.
^ thumbs up for Murray. he's always good. The war against the west is fantastic.
>>Two years ago this day
cops opened the door and shot a citizen in the face.
And JasonT20 finds that appropriate; do you have to be stupid to be a lefty or do you become a lefty because you are stupid?
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
>>"Is it racist to like big butts?" asks Kat Rosenfield.
is it racist to not?
Click the link to find out! Plus 10 other things you wouldn't believe about Big Butts!
#8 amazes doctors!!! (seems they are easily amazed)
Can we please be sensitive and use the correct terminology? “Big Butt” is both offensive and triggering. They now identify as “Lard Asses.”
"Is it racist to like big butts?" asks Kat Rosenfield.
It's racist to like big butts and it's racist NOT to like big butts.
Everything is racist now, haven't you heard?
I can't deny...
Baby Got Back is the New Racist (check back daily for updates)
In a 3–2 decision, the state's high court sided with Planned Parenthood, saying that while the state "unquestionably" has the authority to place limitations on the right to privacy,
I see your problem right here.
Can anyone here explain what the time required to discover and act on a pregnancy has to do with privacy?
Peter McCullough response:
Critical of the Polykretis report? From press releases, each vignette reviewed. You have 1598 arrests and 1101 deaths documented. Take your time analyzing them. Some will have clear etiologies but most are unexplained and occurred after mandates.
https://twitter.com/P_McCulloughMD/status/1611354097235677190
Reason! Do better than just parroting talking points from PR firms and government officials.
My Facebook friend and world-renowned legal ethicist, Jack Marshall, wrote this on January 6, 2021
https://ethicsalarms.com/2021/01/06/ethics-observations-on-the-pro-trump-rioting-at-the-capitol/
Was he wrong?
"...That means I can, and will, condemn it as stupid, useless, self-destructive and anti-democratic violence,..."
What "violence"?
He is correct that they are hypocritical if they condemn this riot but don’t condemn other riots.
He is wrong in labeling them “Black Lives Matter” riots as the Black Lives Matter organization did not organize or sponsor the riots.
He is wrong in saying that progressives who excuse some riots have no right to criticize the January 6th riots. They don’t have to ask any one’s permission. Yes, it makes them hypocrites, but they are not wrong in condemning the January 6th riots.
Yes. And unethical to say that if you don't oppose all evil, you can’t oppose any evil.
Serious effort on that strawman! Try dealing with what was posted.
It’s rhetorical bullshit.
If you don’t oppose all evil, yes you are a hypocrite. We are all hypocrites on this count, to one degree or another.
OT Post...
https://www.thebulwark.com/the-holodomor-90-years-later/
Good article! By Cathy Young of Reason!!!
The Holodomor, 90 Years Later
Stalin’s terror famine in Ukraine—long denied by the Soviets and their Western sympathizers—has taken on a renewed relevance in 2022.
by CATHY YOUNG DECEMBER 1, 2022 5:30 AM
It was LONG LONG LONG before Trump ever came along that Republicans were SICK and TIRED of RINO’S in their party.
Now at least *real* Republicans are getting some representation in D.C.
And that *REAL* path to Clean the GD swamp of Nazi’s(National Sozialists) is the worse possible thing for the ever growing Nazi-Empire of leftard politicians and RINO’S who vote right along with them and their Nazi plans.
The funniest thing about Trump in main media is the complete 'Trumpist' (racist like) de-stain portrayed without any merits behind it what-so-ever. An endless buffet of name calling and zero debate on what Trump actual pushed for in D.C..
Alright, which one of you deplorables lives in New Mexico? C’mon, OUT with it!
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/democratic-officials-homes-offices-shot-new-mexico-96261049
Sorry, but I do not agree that Jan Six was "scary new ground." At worst it was a demonstration that morphed into a riot. Set in the background of over seven hundred much more violent and expensive riots from the Democrat fringe - with a good bit more support on the record from Democrats, by the way - and the catastrophic government response to COVID, I wasn't particularly scared. If you were, you might want to get some help for that.
The January 6th riot was unique in its goal of sabotaging the peaceful transition of Presidential administrations via the process laid out in the Constitution. If you are unconcerned that a sitting President’s followers committed such an act against American democracy maybe you are not worthy of citizenship.
"The January 6th riot was unique in its goal of sabotaging the peaceful transition of Presidential administrations via the process laid out in the Constitution..."
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled steaming pile of lefty shit. You might just as well claim the intent was to levitate the capitol building; each had and has the same probability of success.
lol to the fainting couch!
Sell leftard projection much?
It was a protest about pushing through possibly (actually we know it had fraud - violation of election law - governor E.O. law) fraudulent elections dipsh*t...
Only in your lefty PROJECTION Nazi-Propaganda land was it about forcing a certain president into office because that's the image you have to paint to justify YOUR leftards violations of CONSTITUTIONAL LAW.
Ya this country was founded in revolution, and endured a bloody civil war. But somehow we are to believe a riot where no one died from it (other than one of the protestors herself), where people walked around and took selfies, and then nothing about govt changes (other than expansion of govt power)...a riot less deadly and destructive than any 1 of dozens that happened the year prior in the name of racial justice...that was "scary new ground"
Looked very tame compared to the streets of most towns around the country in 2020
Answer honestly. Seeing how the Capitol police officers were assaulted that day, would you have traded places with them and stood in their place blocking the entrances to the building?
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled steaming pile of lefty shit. You might just as well claim the intent was to levitate the capitol building; each had and has the same probability of success.
Could I trade places with the ones that opened the doors and let people in?
What kind of goofy analysis is this? Trump was the epitome of insurgency.
Baloney. Almost to the last man and woman, every Republican in DC suddenly forgot everything bad they had said about the cretin and started kissing his feet.
The few who didn’t were called RINOs, and one was even kicked out of her state party.
"...Almost to the last man and woman, every Republican in DC suddenly forgot everything bad they had said about the cretin and started kissing his feet..."
Wonderful summary from slimy, TDS-addled lying lefty shit,
She explains why she thinks January 6th is relevant in her second paragraph.
You are a sycophant. A terrible one at that.
The "explanation" is an opinion and an admission of a raging case of TDS.
Jesse is too kind, lefty shitbag.
You are not a serious person.
The few who didn’t (ignoring the fact that a lot of Republicans didn’t suck his dick, they just acted like politicians) have been fucking RINO’s for years, if not decades.
I do find it funny you’re upset about a bunch of war mongering, drug warrior, neocons getting pushback for the first time. So principled, much libertarian.
McCarthy wins on the 15th round. I hope the ideas discussed above are part of the final deal.
And vice-versa.
How big does it get?