Population Growth Still Isn't a Problem. Anti-Immigrant Groups Still Think It Is.
It shouldn't be surprising that a misanthropic worldview like Paul Ehrlich's can be taken in xenophobic directions.

When Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich published The Population Bomb in 1968, he predicted that the 1970s would see an unavoidable period of widespread famine and death. That decade—and many since—have proven Ehrlich wrong. But that didn't stop him from warning of another impending catastrophe in a Sunday 60 Minutes appearance, claiming that "the next few decades will be the end of the kind of civilization we're used to."
That line has long been popular among the environmentalist left, despite all evidence to the contrary. Anti-immigrant groups and politicians keep echoing Ehrlich's worldview too. They say Western countries should reduce the number of immigrants they accept or else face the environmental degradation and increased pollution that migrants from poorer countries will inevitably bring.
Two notable environmental lawsuits have leaned into that logic. In August, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia ruled that Massachusetts Coalition for Immigration Reform (MCIR) v. Department of Homeland Security could proceed. Filed by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), the suit claimed the Biden administration had violated the National Environmental Policy Act of 1969 by failing to conduct environmental analyses before ending several of former President Donald Trump's immigration policies.
Former Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich made the same argument in an April 2021 suit against the Biden administration. "Population growth has significant environmental impacts," said a press release on the lawsuit, but the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) "and other federal officials did not provide environmental impact statements or environmental assessments when DHS abruptly halted ongoing border wall construction" and began allowing more migrants to enter the country by ending Trump's "Remain in Mexico" policy.
These ideas have found supporters in Congress as well. In March 2021, Reps. Bruce Westerman (R–Ark.) and Paul Gosar (R–Ariz.) claimed in a letter to DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas that "decreasing illegal crossings protects our border environment." They cited research from CIS fellows to build their case.
Ehrlich's worldview sits at the core of CIS and the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), two organizations at the forefront of anti-immigrant environmentalism. Both push for drastic reductions in legal and illegal migration alike, often citing worries about overdevelopment and pollution. They were founded by John Tanton, an ophthalmologist whose restrictionist views on immigration included an environmental focus—and a warmness to eugenics and racial quotas. "Though fertility rates had fallen, he saw a new threat emerging," read a New York Times profile of Tanton. "Soaring rates of immigration."
"Tanton came to his beliefs about population control in the 1960s and through the writings of antinatal zealots like Garrett Hardin and Paul Ehrlich," Manhattan Institute senior fellow Jason Riley wrote for The Wall Street Journal. In the 1970s, Tanton took over as president of Zero Population Growth, a pro–population control organization that was founded by Ehrlich.
Ehrlich was a "longtime FAIR adviser," according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, and served on FAIR's board (though he quit in 2003). "Rapid achievement of [zero population growth]," he and his coauthors wrote for Population and Environment in 1995, would "require a complementary restriction of immigration." Immigrants become "superconsumers, furthering both local and global environmental deterioration," they claimed; they "often bring with them cultural preferences for large families…adding to our nation's gross overpopulation." And, though they wrote they "have long been fans of diversity," they wondered "whether the American political system can stand much more without grinding to a halt."
But this is a faulty way of thinking about immigration and the environment. According to research from Michigan State sociologist Guizhen Ma, places with larger foreign-born populations tend to have better air quality, as immigrants tend to "use less energy, drive less, and produce less waste." Compared to native-born Americans, immigrants are also disproportionately employed in "jobs that either benefit the environment directly or make their establishment's production more environmentally friendly," per 2021 George Mason University research. Immigrants largely settle in urban areas, contradicting the claim that they foster the overdevelopment of pristine lands.
According to Reason's Ron Bailey, "Current trends in agricultural productivity, population, urbanization, and dematerialization will likely negate [Ehrlich's] extinction auguries and predictions of civilizational collapse." That's because "an increasingly wealthy and technologically adept humanity will be withdrawing from nature over the course of this century." Just as an increased birthrate will lead to more minds and helping hands to solve pressing environmental problems, so will increased immigration.
It shouldn't be surprising that a misanthropic worldview can be taken in xenophobic directions. The reality of immigrants and the environment should, however, offer yet another reason to be skeptical of Ehrlich's prognostications and the steps that might be taken to keep them from coming true.
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I'm unaware of any "anti-immigrant groups". Could you name some, Fiona?
Pretty sure she plays that disingenuous game of equating illegals with actual immigrants. All the open borders scumbags do it.
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FAIR explicitly wants to "reduce legal immigration".
So?
If you think (e.g.) Venezuelans should build a modicum of wealth and arms in the US, return to Venezuela, overthrow the government and install a stable, prosperous, culturally Venezuelan libertopia there, so that they largely stop coming here, does that make you anti-immigrant?
What a reach for an article.
Yes illegal immigrants cause massive ecological damage near the border. This is not long term, but short term damage caused by the migration. You are misrepresenting the Arizona AG statement. Is this intentional? Or just ignorance?
Other reason writers have done this.
They start from the point of "immigration + open borders = good" and use a lot of mental gymnastics and very stretched reasoning to get there.
This is another good example.
The quickest way to reduce illegal immigration would be making it easier to immigrate legally. I have yet to encounter one single person screeching about illegals who didn't also support maintaining or increasing restrictions on legal immigration. So, whenever I hear someone claiming to "only" oppose illegal immigration, I feel pretty safe in assuming they're lying xenophobes. If it quacks and waddles, it's almost certainly a duck.
Nice play, Fiona. But just because Erlich is an idiot does not mean we should open our borders.
It is noteworthy however how the reasoning of FAIR is pretty socialist. They and CIS regularly use socialist arguments to promote restrictionism. And it is highly relevant that the founder of FAIR and Ehrlich were peas in a pod in the 70s, with the former serving on the board of Ehrlich's zero growth initiative.
There may be good reasons to restrict open borders. Those don't include many of the socialist and environmentalist reasons put forward by FAIR and CIS. Artificially restricting the labor supply to subsidize certain workers is a bad reason. Trying to get our population to "Zero Growth" is also a terrifically bad reason.
restricting the labor supply to subsidize certain workers is a bad reason.
Sounds like a good reason to me.
As much as I enjoy it when ridiculous federal laws and regulations are used against the federal government, including the officials who imposed them in the first place, the logical gymnastics necessary to claim that an adequate environmental impact analysis was used before starting to build the “wall” and that stopping the construction somehow needed a new environmental impact evaluation just to return things to the status quo ante are truly bizarre. Just wow …
Population growth may not be. But having a functioning border and being able to control your own national sovereignty, actually is.
No matter how many times you people try this childish "cant we just let everyone in and give everyone a pony, unicorn, and a fairy godmother because that would be the nicest thing to do?!" schtick, people with a fucking brain will know this isnt sustainable.
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....And just a never-mind to that underlying TOOL being used.
Using Gov-Guns to STEAL from citizens to support their "everyone gets a pony, unicorn and fairy godmother" virtue signaling... They just as well be promoting criminality over any/all ideas of justice.
Even Shikha is shaking her head at this article.
dude that's cold
Shikha believes she was scorched on her immigration columns because she was a woman of color. Fiona proves otherwise.
Isn't ginger a color?
Eh, gingers have no soul, so who cares.
No progs have souls. That’s why it’s ok to do anything we want to them.
Nobody has a soul, M'Lady, but they do have minds and sadly Fiona doesn't use hers.
It’s too bad Shitty Shikha is too much of a stupid bitch to understand how much of a stupid bitch that she is.
Framing anti-immigration as a variant of Ehrlich's logic against population. Very clever, and true.
Ehrlich's logic depends on food production remaining static while population grows, and food won't be able to keep up.
Anti-immigration people talk as if the supply of jobs is static while population grows as a result of immigration, and jobs won't be able to keep up. It's as if immigrants don't create demand by being consumers, and that demand doesn't create jobs.
Interesting parallel.
Who is "anti-immigration"? Names? Quotes?
Sarc too is known for dishonestly conflating illegals with immigrants.
You've been given at least one, only to dismiss it. Stop playing stupid games.
Stop playing the stupid game of pretending there's no difference between legal immigration and the disaster at our border, and that sensibly wanting orderly and beneficial regulation of immigration is "anti-immigrant".
Mote blind assertions and strawman arguments. Your opponents have been very clear on the welfare issue.
Saying this article is true is proof you are not as intelligent as you claimed in the roundup.
He’s shitfaced drunk most of the time too.
Production creates demand. Just saying "I want it" isn't true demand in an economic sense. It's just being a baby. Something must be produced before it can be consumed. True demand is producing something in order to trade for something else. The better argument for immigration or greater population is the increase of people who will work and produce adding to the real wealth of everyone. Instead, we have Socialists making everyone dependent babies and telling everyone that they can have whatever they want without producing something of value first.
Also, it's once again a demonstration that *borders* are not just lines in the sand but, frequently, categorical classifications that are sometimes many, many levels removed from any specific geography.
To wit, supply and demand are microeconomics concepts but, borders, immigration, labor supply, market controls... these are macroeconomics. The classification specifically doesn't exclude microeconomics from macroeconomics, but the microeconomics assumes isolation and to pretend that a neighboring economy's control structures can't disrupt a domestic economy's control structures, especially when those control structures are predicated on specific demographics and population growth metrics, is just flatly, objectively, and definitively retarded (regardless of physical or conceptual borders).
So let me get this straight. Erlich's apocalyptic world vision and subsequent policy recommendations that will essentially murder billions of people are problematic ... because some people who buy into it might become opposed to mass immigration and open borders?
Reason, you have fallen so far.
She's saying that people who buy into the immigration apocalypse are using Erlich’s logic: increased population combined with static production equals catastrophic shortages. The fallacy lies in the false premise that production and quantity of whatever the fallacy fellator is fretting about does not change.
Who is saying that? Names? Quotes?
So, CA isn't running out of water because of SoCal water demands? Good to know.
Don't worry; the floods are refilling the reservoirs.
Smartest thing you’ve ever said.
Agreed.
he deleted it. what was it
We have an out-of-control administration that fails to enforce US immigration law. At the same time, that immigration strangles private property owners and businesses with bogus environmentalism.
As a legal strategy, it makes perfect sense for people who want fair and legal immigration to demand that the administration at least live up to its own principles and rhetoric.
"demand that the administration at least live up to its own principles and rhetoric."
Careful what you wish for. Once upon a time the US was so desperate for immigration, an enormous statue was erected in the principle port of entry bearing an inscription pleading for the world to send even its most tired, poor and huddled excess. These days, the gayness, the impotence, the crowding, the plastics, the self indulgence, the high costs of child rearing, the contempt for the young, the drag shows and tranny toilets may see more, similar statures with similar inscriptions.
I just wish to live in a nation under the rule of law, instead of an authoritarian executive branch.
The Statue of Liberty is a symbol of liberty, not mass immigration. It symbolizes the kind of liberty that you and progressives piss on.
The US could close its borders to immigration and would be perfectly fine with the 330 million people it has. Canada is bigger than the US with 1/8th the population, and Canada is doing just fine, too.
The US would benefit from high skill immigration. Immigration of low skill workers makes the US poorer overall.
"would be perfectly fine with the 330 million people it has"
Except we'd all have to agree on a new scapegoat to blame our problems on. Also, a stagnant and aging population means a stagnant economy. You will certainly find our capitalists having to smuggle in markets and labor from outside to keep their businesses healthy and growing. It's already been happening for some time if you'd take the trouble to notice.
"I just wish to live in a nation under the rule of law"
It's pathetic how you look to 'highly skilled' police, lawyers and judges to solve the issues the country faces.
Immigrants aren't a scapegoat for anything. People oppose illegal migrants because they cost the tax payer lots of money.
In absolute terms, yes. Per capita, no. It is per-capita GDP that matters.
American corporations are addicted to low-skill, low-wage labor; they should be innovating and automating, because that is what makes nations wealthier. That is one reason why we need to stop low-kill, low-wage labor from coming into the country, legally or illegally.
"People oppose illegal migrants because they cost the tax payer lots of money."
There are probably more compelling reasons. Some resent people who display initiative and are willing to take risks, especially when they are poor. I've never been impressed by the whining of entitled tax payers. Even the poorest of the poor, legal or illegal, are taxed by multiple levels of government.
"American corporations are addicted to low-skill, low-wage labor; they should be innovating and automating, because that is what makes nations wealthier."
Corporations aren't obliged to make the nation wealthier. That's socialist collectivism. They are required to make themselves, their senior managers and shareholders wealthier. That's the whole impetus to off shoring work to China and other countries over the past few decades. Innovation is expensive and so is automation. Perhaps America is undergoing the problems faced by the British in the 19th century. The British were the leaders of the industrial revolution from the outside, but aging infrastructure and new comer competitors like America and Germany started to catch up and eventually overtake. Isn't America's massive investment in copper wiring of the 19th and 20th century an example? China has largely skipped that stage and leapfrogged directly to fiber optics. Africa, if they play their cards right, will leapfrog the leapfroggers.
And that's why we should allow mass illegal immigration and flood the country with low-skill, low-wage labor???
And neither are we, the people, obliged to flood the nation with illegal, low-skill, low-wage migrants so that corporations can increase their profits while taxpayers foot the bill.
Perhaps. But those problems are not going to be fixed by flooding the country with low-skill, low-wage labor.
"And that’s why we should allow mass illegal immigration and flood the country with low-skill, low-wage labor???"
Because it might be necessary to re-invigorate a stagnant and aging country.
"And neither are we, the people, obliged to flood the nation with illegal, low-skill, low-wage migrants "
It's the wealthy corporations and their enablers who run the show.
"But those problems are not going to be fixed by flooding the country with low-skill, low-wage labor."
They might be fixed by investing in the human capital they represent. Investing in the old and dying has limited prospects for success. Let the low skilled, low wage earners do what they do best, but educate and raise their children to surpass them in potential and what they can contribute to others. If the projections are correct, we will need them.
Africa seems set to benefit most from projected population growth. They will have a younger, more fertile population. Nigeria is predicted to surpass USA as the world’s third most populous country in the next couple of decades, and Tanzania, Uganda, Ethiopia and the Congo will also contribute significantly to Africa’s growth. Wealthier nations in Europe and East Asia will age, become less fertile and stagnate unless they welcome African immigration. Fertility has been below replacement level in some 83 countries, representing about half the world’s population, the largest of which are China, USA, Brazil, the Russian Federation, Japan, Viet Nam, Germany, Iran, Thailand, UK, and other smaller countries.
Globally, the number of persons aged 80 or over is projected to triple by 2050, from 137 million in 2017 to 425 million in 2050. By 2100 it is expected to increase to 909 million, nearly seven times its value in 2017.
Yeah, so?
So Africa will have the chance to lead the rest of the world in a way they haven't since the days of the Pharaohs of ancient Egypt. That's why I wrote that Africa seems set to benefit from projected changes in the world population. A growing population could be the foundation for a growing economy. It may not seem noteworthy to you, but I take an interest in Africa and its development. They still lack a north south land link, for example. Cecil Rhodes dreamed of a rail link connecting Cairo to Capetown back in the 19th century, and it still doesn't exist. Not even a proper road link. So, they have their work cut out for them, and I wish them the best. It's interesting to note that over the past couple of decades some 3 million Chinese have upped stakes and emigrated to various African nations, putting their yellow skins in the African game.
Skin color is what matters most.
"Skin color is what matters most."
It's an article of faith in America. And truth be told, the Chinese have never been too keen on dark skin and African physiognomy, as any street side fortune teller in Shanghai will tell you. But the promise of a better future is what is drawing Chinese to Africa in such great numbers.
Belt and Road got nothing to do with it?
Chinese are being SENT to Africa to facilitate B&R. The CCP is establishing an exploitative system; think economic colonialism.
"Belt and Road got nothing to do with it?"
Chinese interest in Africa goes beyond belt and road, an infrastructure development scheme. The Chinese who settle in Africa go there voluntarily, from what I gather. I doubt very much they are being sent there against their own will, any more than the Chinese who built the US rail system in the 19th century were. Chinese are rivaled perhaps only by the English for their willingness to spread out across the globe and establish themselves. In Africa, they buy farms, operate corner stores, bars, trading firms, everything. When I was in Hong Kong a few years back I had some Nigerian acquaintances. They were involved in the export of shark fins from Africa, and imported human hair from China. I think now the business relations are more comprehensive, less niche.
"The CCP is establishing an exploitative system; think economic colonialism."
Yes, there's a lot to criticize about the project, but African countries need Chinese investment and expertise. They are wary of the Chinese and their aims but I'm not aware of any African nation that has kicked them out or refused cooperation.
Shark fins and imported human hair, eh m?
Yes, these are clearly the people who will rise up to lead a prosperous world. Because they breed.
More fascinating insights from m.
If you don't breed you don't lead.
Shark fins are an essential ingredient of shark fin soup, a Chinese delicacy reputed to have medicinal properties. Chinese and Asian hair makes excellent wigs, inlays and weaves, highly prized by women. African hair is not nearly as suitable.
Wow, pretty verbose for a CCP bot.
I am not a bot, but a human. I know a lot more about China than I do Africa, and it seems they see opportunity in Africa where Western countries do not. Perhaps once bitten twice shy. The West once engaged in a scramble for Africa and that has to be seen as a failure, especially compared to their similar efforts in the Americas, Australia etc.
South Africa was a great success for the West until the communists took over.
“South Africa was a great success for the West ”
It wasn’t the West so much as the Dutch settlers who ran a police state which regulated the most intimate details of the lives of the inhabitants whatever their skin color, national origin or social status. The place was surrounded by enemies. And it hosted a militant national liberation movement which apartheid regime allowed to grow and gain influence until it took over the place, a situation that persists today. I think Cape Town must be a great place from all I’ve heard. A liberal sea faring town like New York or Liverpool. And it was the English rather than the Dutch who developed the city and expanded it to capital city prominence. As for a great success, it ultimately slipped from the hands of the colonialists, so a success until it was a failure.
And none of that justifies letting EVERYONE into the USA in ANY numbers. We need controlled and selective immigration. That requires border security.
We still have the most to offer. Why shouldn’t we only take the cream of the crop?
"That requires border security"
Isn't Trump running for president again? He's already saved the nation once. You want border security, buy his NFTs.
So, you have no substantive response. As usual.
I've said all that I think needs saying. As for the rest, I don't give a shit. I don't share your obsession over borders, Mexicans and immigrants, legal or otherwise.
I think
Evidence?
I don’t give a shit.
When you go to the effort to say you don't give a shit, you're admitting that you give a shit.
I don’t share your obsession...
And yet you're here every day talking about these things.
What's I find interesting is that population will stagnate throughout most of the world except Africa where it will boom. I'm not interested in Paul Ehrlich says, the border situation between Mexico and USA, the plight of America's tax payers, Hunter Biden, tranny toilets, or riding any of your other hobby horses.
Population may boom there, but prosperity will not. Prosperity requires free markets and republican (small r) political structure, neither of which Africa has, and neither of which can be expected from their CCP masters.
"Population may boom there, but prosperity will not. "
How can you be so confident? Kenya is one of those countries that will enjoy significant growth over the next few decades. And it enjoys the advantage of being a johnny come lately to infrastructure being able to leapfrog over 19th and 20th century technology directly into this one. Kenya has developed several geothermal plants and the goal is to get about half the nation's electricity production from geothermal sources by 2030, a government set target, granted, but still a target and a frog's jump too. Another example is Africa's first high speed rail linking Nairobi, the capital, with Mombasa, the principal port. I think it's a mistake to write off Kenya's future. Especially when you know nothing of its present.
Sooo...how does this impact your bicycling and rickshawing, Watermelon?
I'm stuck between recommending Ghana, Kenyan highlands, the lake district and Capetown. Lots of other places, too. Never been to Africa, but it may be the best destination for a young person with eyes on the future.
If Africa is benefiting so much, why are they all fleeing to Europe?
'Set to benefit', and 'benefiting' are two different animals. First is future, second is present.
Not all Africans are fleeing to Europe. Some are Libyans are notable for their numbers, initiated by European and American regime change against Gaddafi back in the Obama days. You may have heard of an American diplomat losing his life in the kerfuffle. Blow back is what they call it. Sow chaos in Libya, and Libyans return the favor.
Yeah, it’s a shame you democrats did that.
"Yeah, it’s a shame you democrats did that."
What shame? How many Libyans made it to American shores? Swamping Europe with countless boatloads of destitute Africans was only what those snooty Europeans deserved. Best move Obama made. Gaddafi was a bona fide pan Africanist and a threat to the interests of Obama's (and America's) corporate masters.
Yeah, and now you want to bring millions of potential terrorists and socialists into the country. Really smart idea! /sarc
Wouldn't be the first time our masters saw fit to import millions of surly, resentful Africans into the country.
Yeah, and how did that work out?
Immigration from more fertile, vibrant nations in Africa may be the easiest, most sensible solution for a stagnant and aging America. It's a possibility and immigration of Africans has been seen as a desirable solution to economic and social difficulties in the past, though I'm sure the circumstances will be happier for Africans in future immigration.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc4IFIXcDcs
Yes, and let's not repeat the mistake.
I am totally ready to welcome legal immigrants from Africa who are prepared to not become wards of the state.
Good for them. I wish them luck.
If by "stagnate", you mean that total GDP doesn't grow, that's true. It's also not a problem.
What matters for the wealth of a nation and the well-being of its citizens is per-capita GDP, and that would greatly decrease if we "welcome African immigration".
"What matters for the wealth of a nation and the well-being of its citizens is per-capita GDP,"
I think the world is more complicated than that. But I'm not an economist.
Saying that "What matters for the wealth of a nation and the well-being of its citizens is per-capita GDP [as opposed to total GDP]" isn't saying that per-capita GDP is the only thing that matters.
Some other things that matter are trust, social cohesion, and a common culture, all of which you degrade by importing large numbers of foreign workers.
You have yet to list a single benefit of the mass immigration you propose.
Obviously not. And your reading comprehension is deficient as well.
"Some other things that matter are trust, social cohesion, and a common culture, all of which you degrade by importing large numbers of foreign workers."
I think you are correct that there is a 'sweet spot' for population diversity, and going beyond that erodes social trust. Perhaps we've already gone beyond that, and Americans will have to find a way to adapt to new circumstances. A more authoritarian, heavy handed government seems to be in the offing, either left or right. I wouldn't be surprised if an aging, stagnant US welcomes Africans to keep things running and the money flowing.
"And your reading comprehension is deficient as well."
I'm not sure what you're referring to. Have I misunderstood something you've tried to express?
Yes, you did, and I pointed it out.
Saying that “What matters for the wealth of a nation and the well-being of its citizens is per-capita GDP [as opposed to total GDP]” isn’t saying that per-capita GDP is the only thing that matters.
I'm sure there are better ways to measure wealth, a slippery concept at the best of times, than GDP which attempts to encapsulate a national economy in a single number - a simplification too far, in my view. You can criticize my lack of understanding economics, but I read what you wrote and if you weren't clear enough, that's down to you. I object to your blaming me for your careless and lack of precision.
I wouldn't be surprised either: to keep the current governmental pyramid schemes going, progressives will attempt to flood the country with young people from just about anywhere. It won't work, but they will try.
"It won’t work, but they will try."
Maybe it will work, maybe not. I have no idea. The projections I read were about trends in global population, not government pyramid schemes. Though it seems clear that these schemes are only viable as long as the pyramid stays pointy side up, ie there are more young people than old people, so that may be a reason for encouraging immigration of young people. Also young people are needed to feed, clean and care for old people who gradually lose the ability to do so themselves. You might enjoy Nobel laureate Jose Saramago's Death Interrupted about what happens when people stop dying. They grow feebler, just the same, and more numerous, as young people dither over what to do with them.
Good for Africa, now back to the topic at hand.
I see Fiona has set aside "Russia attacking Ukraine means my sugar daddy should get unlimited imported cheap labor" and switched things up with "Paul Ehrlich being an idiot means my sugar daddy should get unlimited imported cheap labor."
#BreakingNewGround
The Fiona-bot runs the simplest algorithm. No matter the input, the output is "Open Borders!"
This does seem to be the case. It's almost parody.
As others point out above, the part of that statement that seems the most untrue is that the bot is named after or dedicated to Fiona.
As I and others have pointed out before, Reason doesn't hire writers. They hire editors who don't broadly edit. At best, Fiona monitors the pro-immigration bot's output to (mostly) prevent technical "[insert link here]" and linguistic "All your base are belong to us" Engrish errors. She took over the position from former Sr. Editor Dalmia.
Wonder how Reason is going to tackle Polis transporting illegals out of Colorado since they maxed out at 30000.
They will ignore it like every negative or hypocritical things done or said by a Democrat.
Chirping crickets?
Do you seriously think that the US can sustain unlimited population growth with no consequences whatsoever?
While lack of population growth is a problem in most of the 1st world and 3rd world countries like Russia, unlimited immigration isn't the answer either.
Controlled immigration lets people come in establish themselves, adapt to a new culture and be a benefit. But too many people just becomes a burden.
Lack of population growth really isn't a problem. People worry about who is going to "pay for our retirement." Of course, that always needs to be young people somehow. But with global financial markets, those young people don't have to be in the US, we can make capital investments in their nations.
Of course, controlled skilled immigration is still of benefit to the US. But we can choose the level we want according to what our needs and interests are. We don't need to flood the US with young people just to maintain the pyramid scheme that is social security.
Of course, that always needs to be young people somehow. But with global financial markets, those young people don’t have to be in the US, we can make capital investments in their nations.
This is retarded "We'll make up for a lack of N95 masks and COVID vaccines/tests with more T-notes!" thinking. You're part of the problem.
We already do just that, since our N95 masks and COVID vaccines are largely manufactured elsewhere.
It's how free market economies are supposed to function: we forego consumption now to make capital investments in other nations, and those capital investments yield profits and future production.
You think like a retarded socialist, namely that only people under your direct government control can produce value for your society.
You think like a retarded socialist, namely that only people under your direct government control can produce value for your society.
And yet you’re the one advocating for the transfer of wealth to a no-shit communist dictatorship in support of the largest public health fraud and human rights violation in history.
It's so funny to me that secure borders and controlling illegal immigration was a huge priority for democrats until.... 2016
They figured out illegal immigrants who have destroyed their own nation with conquer and consume mentality will help destroy this USA too.
The left makes no secret of their deeper desire to conquer and consume the USA for their Nazi(National Sozialist)-Empire.
A new low for Reason.
It is not about population growth, but about taxes and government debt. Most of these people come from poor agrarian cultures, little education, unable to speak English, poor health and no marketable job skills. They will need housing assistance, food assistance, utility assistance, to be taught language and job skills, all out of the tax money. Their children will need schooling and translators in classes. School districts will have to build more schools, hire more teachers and more translators. That in a nation already $30 trillion in debt, and not all of this will fall on the federal government, states, counties, and local municipalities will need more taxes too. At best some will have marketable skills in a few years, most will take 5-10 years and many will never be able to support themselves. Also many of those that avoided the border are criminals that will be locked up for years if not their entire life.
YOU will be paying for all that millions and millions of taxes. Even pro open borders mayor Eric Adams of New York and Governor Newsom of California have woken up to the fiscal problems these people will cause. Begging and demanding more Federal government dollars.
While being altruistic is great if you use your money, but just theft if you demand others money. /The US cannot save the western hemisphere by itself, let alone the world.
Falling isn't a real problem until you hit the ground. Then it's just old news, no point is playing the blame game.
NYC Mayor Adams: Colorado Dem Gov. Sending Migrants to NYC, Chicago
“We were notified yesterday that the governor of Colorado is now stating that they are going to be sending migrants to places like New York and Chicago,” Adams told 77 WABC’s “Sid & Friends in the Morning.” “This is just unfair for local governments to have to take on this national obligation.”
But Polis rebuked the claims by Adams shortly after the news broke, telling Politico his state has been assisting asylum seekers "reach their final destination" for weeks. Instead, the governor blamed harsh winter conditions for creating a backlog in those leaving Denver.
So now the fight begins over where to put all these people and mostly who will pay for them.
Anti-immigrant groups like FAIR will come up with whatever anti-immigrant arguments they can think of. This silliness is not surprising.
Pretty much everything this woman writes is just unintended politicized comedy. Open’em borders, what could go right?
If Ukraine would just let in all those Russian immigrants, the immigrants wouldn't have to come into the country with guns and tanks. They could just move into Ukraine, and vote to join Russia!
Very disingenuous to connect environmental claims regarding illegal immigration to a peak population loon. The concern about illegal immigration in relation to the environment is the migratory process itself. Those concerns deal with extensive amounts of trash and human waste being deposited along migratory routes. Logically it's the same concern as people littering in national parks, except on an order 100x greater.
What is happening at the US southern border is NOT immigration. Each man, woman and child is a criminal the moment they set foot on American soil. Anyone that feels there is a moral responsibility to take care of these CRIMINALS are welcome to send 80% of their income to them to go home and live. The world is not America's problem.
Why can't this rag and the Democrat party just admit that virtually NO ONE is against LEGAL immigration. I am so sick of the left and REASON magazine not admitting this truth. We certainly cannot count on our politicians to enforce our employment laws. The dumbasses that are always complaining about low wages will never fix that problem if we keep letting our corporations and small businesses hire very low wage people that are not here legally. The Democrats and Republicans stink.
World population: 8,000,000,000 people.
Divided into families of four: 2,000,000,000 families.
Each given a quarter of an acre: 500,000,000 acres.
640 acres per square mile: 781,250 square miles.
That's smaller than the size of Mexico, as a place that could hold the entire population of the world, comfortably.
That's not overcrowded.
Yeah, that would work great if humans did not require luxuries like water and sanitation. There's no way Mexico could support such a population. Or were you being sarcastic? I have trouble telling.
"I have trouble telling."
Could hold and should hold mean different things. Weren't you the same Vernon Depner who was lecturing us on the purity of language a few days back?
"That’s not overcrowded."
That's debatable. A quarter acre is not large. I prefer a larger space. A small stand of trees, a pond with a stream, maybe, some land suitable for cultivation and recreation. Hard to fit all that in a quarter acre.
FIONA HARRIGAN: "Population Growth Still Isn't a Problem. Anti-Immigrant Groups Still Think It Is."
The in coded headline implies being in favor of a secure border is anti-immigrant.
Of course, being in favor of legal immigration is also misconstrued as anti-immigrant.
At no time can anyone express concerns about our largely open and unsecured border without being labeled as anti-immigrant.
This is a time-honored tradition of progressives - no need to discuss these very serious topics with racists and xenophobes...
Reason CEO - you know we haven't really preached open borders. Fiona says hold my beer
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