Politics Is Getting in the Way of What Makes Cities Great
Healthy cities are a boon not just for those who live in them, but for our entire society.

Progressives loves cities, yet refuse to address the degree to which their policies have made urban life a bigger chore than needed. Conservatives depict cities as dystopian hellholes. They delight in highlighting the crime problems, poorly functional school systems, homeless encampments, and other urban problems that seem unsolvable.
The message from the former: We should all live in densely packed urban areas, where we can stroll to cafes and stores and take the bus to work, but we can't (or won't) make the streets safer, the schools better or the transit systems less miserable. The message from the latter: Stay away from cities and hole up in placid but uninteresting suburbs.
There is a third way, of course. It means supporting reform policies that improve life in the city. Like everything these days, the right v. left culture wars have tainted debates about urban governance. Urban policy need not be so partisan—but it becomes that way for obvious reasons. Democrats dominate the politics of virtually every big city and Republicans often dominate the outskirts.
Lefties hector people for wanting to flee. They bloviate about the car culture and try to shut down charter schools. They elect district attorneys who are lackadaisical about prosecuting street crime, pass rent controls that drive up the cost of housing and have never met a tax increase they don't like. They make it inordinately difficult for small businesses to get through the regulatory thicket.
Righties gleefully point to, say, the phone app that helps people navigate the piles of human poop that are an unfortunate reality on San Francisco's homeless-filled streets. They use the laundry list of urban failures as proof that Democrats turn everything they touch into a disaster. They don't seem to care about cities, but use them as a punching bag to highlight their opponents' failures.
It's time to break this impasse. Healthy cities are a boon not just for those who live in them, but for our entire society which benefits from the culture, diversity, and intellectual stimulation that they offer.
Conservatives are right that liberals have controlled our biggest cities for decades and they have become a mess. In the 1950s, Detroit was one of the world's wealthiest cities. By the 1980s, it had turned into the definition of blight. The city even has an agency that knocks down empty houses. Locals joke about the city's rural sprawl—as abandoned neighborhoods become vacant land.
Western cities have fared better than many industrial Midwestern metropolises. Our cities have continued to grow, but recently we've seen that trend reversed. San Francisco remains one of the most beautiful cities in the country, yet it lost 6.3 percent of its population from 2020 to 2021. Los Angeles lost 160,000 residents in 2021. That's largely a function of failed policy. At this rate, our great cities might resemble the Motor City 40 years from now.
What to do? The progressive approach has been to throw money at the myriad problems—housing, transportation, homelessness, crime, and education—but not change any of the ways those public services are provided. That's because progressives generally are hostile to the marketplace and have an inexplicable faith in governments and the unions that control government agencies. Yet union control results in overpriced and lower-quality public services. Union contracts crowd out other services.
In the mid-2000s, Anaheim pioneered an innovative approach. It relaxed zoning laws to promote construction. The city changed the culture within its government agencies to be more "freedom friendly" in its approach to permitting. Although the city later abandoned these goals, the core idea was to let individuals rather than government make more decisions.
Every city needs innovation and competition. School choice enables urban residents to stay in their neighborhoods rather than flee to the suburbs. Transit systems have the hallmarks of any government-run agency. They are dirty, bleak, and increasingly unsafe. Is it any wonder that transit ridership is falling dramatically almost everywhere? The problem isn't transit per se, but how that transit is provided.
The progressive answer is to limit car use and impose "road diets" that boost congestion and try to force people to get out of cars. The alternative answer should be to make transit more appealing by encouraging market alternatives and customer-friendly reforms to the existing public systems. Choice always is better than coercion.
In other examples, community policing can approach crime problems in a more humanitarian and results-oriented way. Cities can reduce regulations and let nonprofits build low-cost housing for the homeless—a far better approach than building $800,000 government-funded units. There are plenty of ideas, almost all of which involve community participation, competition, and market-based alternatives.
If progressives are serious about promoting urban living, they should unite with conservatives who are serious about reforming government services. Our cities can remain great places, but it means breaking out of our self-defeating partisan rut.
This column was first published in The Orange County Register.
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"Conservatives depict cities as dystopian hellholes. They delight in highlighting the crime problems, poorly functional school systems, homeless encampments, and other urban problems that seem unsolvable."
Interesting. Greenhut almost always makes icky conservatives the bad guys in his diatribes. Sigh. It's really becoming a broken record here at Reason. Would be nice if there was some balance among the Reason Editors and they weren't ALL progressives leaning Libertarians.
"Righties gleefully point to, say, the phone app that helps people navigate the piles of human poop that are an unfortunate reality on San Francisco's homeless-filled streets. They use the laundry list of urban failures as proof that Democrats turn everything they touch into a disaster. They don't seem to care about cities, but use them as a punching bag to highlight their opponents' failures."
Greenhut seems to put a lot of negative emotion behind what "righties" have to say. Interesting that he doesn't apply any emotional connotation for what progressives do and say. Steven, this is your tell. Your progressive leanings are showing and it's affecting your work.
What you've highlighted about conservatives isn't necessarily wrong, but I hardly see non-progressives as delighting in their analysis of the problems that plague our cities. Nor are they gleeful about it. In fact, many conservatives would like to live in big cities if these problems didn't exist.
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The real problem is making this about tribal politics.
Read through that screed. Every tangible policy failure is due to leftist policy. The only sin he can pin on Conservatives is pointing these failures out. For some reason, Greenhut can point out the failures of cities and it is sober commentary. But if an amalgamated, caricatured fiction of his mind criticizes cities, well that is obviously just politics.
I am starting to think that Greenhut is a certain bushy-tailed tree-rattly person that likes to post here.
"Cities can reduce regulations and let nonprofits build low-cost housing for the homeless—a far better approach than building $800,000 government-funded units." ... Says Greenhut.
You SEE how HORRIBLE of a tribalist Greenhut is?!?! He just can NEVER bring himself to say ANYTHING good about conservative or libertarian-leaning people OR their policies!
AND he also piles thought crimes on the tops of sins, writing that "Choice always is better than coercion." Dammit, ALL good authoritarians KNOW that we should be brow-beaten into acknowledging that we'd be FAR better off, if we all joined MY political tribe, which is the RIGHT political tribe! And ALL votes for the WRONG tribe are fraudulent, and all web sites that favor the filter-bubbles of the WRONG tribe should be shouted down, at the VERY least!
It's all a character trait of *lefty-tribe projection*
...as SQRLSY so dominantly presents here. Greenhut wrote an entire article about how left policy is destroying this nation; but because of lefty-tribalism and projection cannot allow themselves to come out and openly admit that the right generally had the right idea all along. So the right must be bashed simply for having the right idea and stating it over and over and over again.
Lefty-Projection. Blaming EXACTLY everything they are/do onto anyone else in sight. It's rather self explanatory by their party name -- Democracy (i.e. [WE] mob RULES) which is tribalism RULING.. That why Democrats are always trying to build Poor-Me pitty affiliation gangs, Color gangs, Gender gangs, Woke-Religion gangs, etc, etc, etc, etc.......... And of course de-humanizing any wealth area such as capitalism so their gang can STEAL.
Its all about gangland-politics ([WE] mob RULES) and POWER. It's also why Democrats prop form urban areas where gang/group-think runs rampant purely due to the number of people in a tight area and the more dangerous (criminal) or poverty stricken the more ganging-up it will become. More gang-THEFT/STEALING...
Look Democrats... The majority of Republicans care more about policy than party association. Either keep your party-politicians in line with US Constitutional principles (stop buying National Sozialist-Nazi propaganda to gang-build with) or ditch your gang-association mentality and become a Republican.
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Your fault for summoning the squirrel.
At least squirrels are smart and honest enough to read ALL of what an article says, and not shit-picking out shit-nits (or PERCEIVED shit-nits ass perceived by nit-wits).
If Greenhut were to say that conservatives delight in pointing our high murder rates in Democrat-controlled cites... Which offhand I think is true, but then again, most big cities ARE democrat-run! Like Houston, a LARGE city, in the middle of a VERY red state! Well, I digress... We almost ALL take SOME delight in pointing out the flaws of others, is the take-away, for me.
If Greenhut wrote that, he'd be accused (by dimwitted and dishonest ultra-extremist commenters here) of obsessing on the horrible intolerant mental sins of conservatives, and of loving Demon-Craps and high murder rates! Tribalism all of the way down! Greenhut isn't an authoritarian wigged-out right-wing wrong-nut TRIBALIST enough, plain and simple!
And speak of the nut, he's here.
You resent the hell out of the fact that many other people are flat-out, better, more honest people than you are, right? More “live and let live”, and WAAAY less authoritarian?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-love-and-war/201706/why-some-people-resent-do-gooders
From the conclusion to the above…
These findings suggest that we don’t need to downplay personal triumphs to avoid negative social consequences, as long as we make it clear that we don’t look down on others as a result.
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You knew talking about the shit tracking app in SF would bring him out.
Did you miss the part where he parodied progressives as being simple-minded, anti-market bureaucrat-lovers, or does that just align with your bias?
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There was no parody about Greenhut's description of progressives. He simply lists their faults, without the negative emotional connotation that he gives to Republicans. If you re-read my post, you'll see this is what I specifically address.
You should also take note that I don't say Greenhut is wrong about his critique of Republicans/Conservatives. My objection is his negative interpretation of their actions compared with no such consideration towards progressives.
Perhaps you should check your bias.
So, yes, you're unable to discern the ridiculousness of how Steven describes progressives because you just take his description to be self-evidently true. And you're hyper-sensitive about how he describes conservatives, because while he accurately describes the way that conservatives depict our cities, he attributes to conservatives a "delight" that you feel smears them. Because, surely, conservatives do not "delight" in the factually-incorrect attacks they constantly repeat without thinking! No, surely not! It saddens and depresses them!
Which part was ridiculous?
"unable to discern the ridiculousness of how Steven describes progressives"
What ridiculousness? Greenhut's description of progressive actions is accurate. And, as I've previously noted, without negative emotional connotation.
"And you’re hyper-sensitive about how he describes conservatives, because while he accurately describes the way that conservatives depict our cities, he attributes to conservatives a “delight” that you feel smears them."
There is no sensitivity at all. I'm accurately explaining how Greenhut gives negative emotional connotation to conservatives while NOT doing so towards progressives. This has nothing to do with my feelings or emotions; but it's based upon my reading comprehension ability.
"Because, surely, conservatives do not “delight” in the factually-incorrect attacks they constantly repeat without thinking!"
Greenhut actually acknowledges that conservatives critique about big city issues is valid. YOU are actually taking Greenhut's faults and double down on stupid. You are giving negative emotional connotation to conservatives and also claiming that they're criticism is an attack; and an incorrect attack. But I should check my bias. LMAO!
"Lefties hector people for wanting to flee. They bloviate about the car culture and try to shut down charter schools. They elect district attorneys who are lackadaisical about prosecuting street crime, pass rent controls that drive up the cost of housing and have never met a tax increase they don't like. They make it inordinately difficult for small businesses to get through the regulatory thicket."
Which of these listed items are NOT accurate? They're certainly not ridiculous.
Are you genuinely unable to see the "negative emotional content" this description gives to (largely exaggerated, if not outright false) "lefties?"
This is illustrative of the problem in trying to debate, online, with people who lack reading comprehension skills, I suppose.
Which of the items that are listed are exaggerations or false? If it's so obviously, you should have no problem actually explaining it instead of making assertions without facts/evidence. (Take note, I was clear about how Greenhut used negative emotional connotation towards conservatives.)
You're not debating at all. You're being vague and emotional. Even Greenhut is more balanced than you! Debating would constitute making a evidence-based argument. You've done no such thing.
I'm not surprised, as this is normal for progressives. You project onto others and argue from a position of emotions/feelings, instead of discussing facts/evidence.
No, I'm just not horribly interested in trying to explain, in words, what a reading comprehension-challenged person is missing.
Your complaint about how Steven described conservatives was in his use of the word "delight." But the excerpt you presented includes several similarly-charged words: "hector" (rather than "criticized"), "bloviate" (rather than "critique"), "shut down" (rather than "oppose"), "lackadaisical" (rather than "reform-minded"), and so on.
You are throwing a fit over a slight nuance about conservatives, while ignoring the outright falsification of progressives' views.
"No, I’m just not horribly interested in trying to explain, in words, what a reading comprehension-challenged person is missing..."
You've been caught bullshitting yet one more time and are now trying to shuck and jive your way out of it, slimy pile of lefty shit.
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Well New York, Chicago, St. Louis, Seattle, Portland and LA are hell holes. All run by liberals. Sometimes you have to call them as they are and quit making excuses.
Maybe Greenhut would like to expand on how Conservatives ruined those cites? Don't hold your breath.
“There is a third way, of course.”
Not seeing any Libertarian ideas here. Later in the article…
“If progressives are serious about promoting urban living, they should unite with conservatives who are serious about reforming government services.”
Progressives are not serious about fixing problems. They claim they are, but their only options include throwing more money at problems and adding more union jobs, so they can continue to get a healthy stream of campaign contributions.
And TBH, i’m not confident that conservatives are serious about reforming government services. A few maybe, but as a party, they're clearly Dem-lite at this point. Neither are offering Libertarian policies of de-regulation and defending liberty.
Correction: not seeing any Libertarian ideas that stand a chance of getting implemented in US big cities.
"There are plenty of ideas, almost all of which involve community participation, competition, and market-based alternatives."
Democrats do not want community participation. They want compliant citizens that do as they're told by their betters. This should be 100% crystal clear after COVID policies pushed by Dems.
Democrats do not want competition. They enjoy picking winners and losers ahead of time. Want to be a winner? You better rub elbows with the Dem elite and write big checks to their campaign contributions. Giving 6 figure jobs to Dem politician children will also garner you favor.
And, Dems certainly do not want market-based alternatives. See Social Security. We cannot let deplorables make decisions for themselves. They're just too stupid. They need the right top men and women to tell them what is right for them.
And let's be fair, many Republicans are the same way; especially the establishment wing. Romney, Murkowski, McConnell, etc.
Progressive thinking is based on allegiance to a utopian vision. They might argue about priorities, but the implementation will always be through force.
Progressives believe in reform by going after the freedom of individuals while promoting the power of government to do so. Reform to them is making everyone act as they want them to act.
The promotion of culture is their avenue to gaining those powers. First step is always to empty prisons of violent offenders to demand calls for more government. Second is to promote poverty to garner dependence of government.
Libertarian polices limit government, which limits politicians power, why would they implement a system that takes away their own power?
It is like the delusion Congress will vote for term limits! Why would they limit their own gravy train and power?
Cities are an anachronism in a post-industrial society. Why do you need a large body of people all assembled in one place? Mostly because everybody is trying to live at everybody else's expense, which makes it perfect for the political class parasites. What makes a city? Zoos, museums, opera and theater companies, professional sports teams, mass transit, the kind of stuff that no one can afford on their own but that if you have a large number of people you can afford if you steal a few bucks from each of them. But this also attracts the homeless, the criminals, the freeloaders, and taxpayers are starting to realize that the few bucks that are stolen from them are starting to add up. Who needs a shithole like that?
This is retarded.
Density makes sense for a simple reason: it's efficient. If you want to provide, water, electricity, sewage services, public safety services, etc., it's more efficient to provide that to people living closer together. Spread-out communities are huge money drains, and are "sustainable" only insofar as nearly every state in this country subsidizes its suburban, exurban, and rural communities with tax dollars derived from denser, urban areas.
Density is good for employers and individuals, too, because denser areas mean larger labor pools, more employment opportunities, etc. You look at a place like NYC, and all of the employers in Manhattan and downtown Brooklyn can draw on a massive potential employee pool. That's why there's so much talent here. You can see the same dynamic happening in Silicon Valley, LA, and the growth centers in the southeast. People moving to Texas or Florida aren't moving to the backwater parts of those states - look at Musk's plans for Twitter in Texas, for instance: Austin.
We may not be going into factories any more, and we may not even need to go into the office. But employers and employees will always prefer to live in close proximity to others, in order to better compete for talent and opportunities. You don't move from a job center to a midwestern headquarters unless you're a lifer.
Try this thought experiment. In scenario A, all the urban areas containing the densest 50% of America vanish. In scenario B, all the other areas vanish.
Which scenario leads to the greatest death and disruption in the shortest period of time? Which 50% is actually dependent on the other?
The reality is that there is an interdependence. We no longer live in a period when the majority of rural areas are self-sufficient. The two things cities need from rural areas is food and entertainment in the form of wild areas. And, food can be purchased from any number of countries. The tomatoes in my grocery store right now likely came from Mexico.
So if it's not dependency on rural America it's dependency on rural Mexico... Funny how you thought you were making a point. You would've been much better off insisting manufacturing was urban's benefit.
Cities as center of wealth generally have options. They are dependent on some agricultural area for food, but they can choose the area. When former President Trump slapped tariff on Chinese steel, the Chinese retaliated by shift their purchases of soybeans to non-US farmers.
Or rural China... Wow you're as slippery as a rubber duck 🙂
Well, hm. I suppose in one scenario, you have an "America" consisting of a bunch of Singapore-like city states, and in the other, you have something like sub-Sahara Africa, where people survive off subsistence farming and with little state support.
None of that deflects the point Jerryskids makes. You openly admit what makes urban more efficient is 'other people's close service'.
Subsidizing (GUN Theft) is the difference. People trade (free-trade ring a bell) and that trade either happens via Gov-GUNS of THEFT (subsidizing) or Free people and a ACTUAL JUSTICE system (not a gang of gun toting criminals / Gov-Gun Power).
The USA has governments to ensure everyone's Individual Liberty and JUSTICE. They weren't created to *entitle me* to other people's services by Gov-Gun FORCE.
"If you want to provide, water, electricity, sewage services, public safety services, etc., it’s more efficient to provide that to people living closer together."
Which, in a post industrial society, doesn't matter. We do lots of things that aren't efficient. And at the top of that list is "running government."
"“sustainable” only insofar as nearly every state in this country subsidizes its suburban, exurban, and rural communities with tax dollars derived from denser, urban areas."
This is absurdly wrong. This only appears when you apply ridiculous definitions of subsidy and classification of what is "suburb" vs "city".
Some of the biggest drains on state and city budgets are urban labor costs, including pensions. Those always get omitted from these analyses because they show just how corrupt city governments have become.
Indeed, one of the mechanisms typically used to claim "SUBSIDIEEEZ!" is "ROADZ" which are, in fact, largely paid for by Gas and title taxes- i.e. the people who are using them.
In theory, density leads to efficiency.
In practice, density leads to unions and political graft and the less dense, less corrupt suburbs and small cities are run more efficiently.
Calling it now. Reason attacks Elon for suspending liberal journalists for violating a clear rule Elon posted this week. Taking a different stance than their defense if suspending conservatives for violations of unclear and vague rules.
Also at least 3 claims if hypocrisy against Elon. Wheras they ignored the claims of Twitter being for free speech prior.
Wait, I thought Twitter was a private company? No?
How about; progressives should build their own Twitter!
Learn to cope, er, code!
Twitter suspends non-progressives that didn't violate rules per government dictate. Reason - private company; build your own Twitter!!!
Twitter suspends progressives that clearly violate TOS and endanger the lives of real people. Reason - Musk hates free speech. The government should investigate every aspect of his existence and persecute him!
It apparently got interesting when a bunch of the journos had a meeting in Twitter Spaces.
https://twitter.com/JanJekielek/status/1603624389399937026?cxt=HHwWhICwtdj4m8EsAAAA
Buzzfeed's Katie Notopoulos was hosting a Twitter space with some of the journalists who had earlier tonight been suspended for 7 days speaking on stage. @elonmusk came into the room, was invited up as a speaker, and responded to a few questions. Here's the recording
I think Elon can't have it both ways. If he wants free speech and to take his predecessors to task for their inconsistency, then that is fine. If he wants free speech without "Dangerous Doxxing", that is an understandable standpoint, but he is going to need to show more consistency than the folks he is claiming to replace.
The risk right now for Musk is that he is going to appear to be petty, and not consistent at all. People dox others all the time and do not get in trouble. In fact, sometimes what is doxxing for some is harmless to others. "Hunter Biden is speaking right now at CrookCon about his corruption!" "I'm at this concert and saw Brad Pitt!" "Me and the wife are out shopping." "I just saw this asshole stealing from this store!"
I'm not saying Musk is right or wrong here, just that this is getting into grey areas and he needs to be careful. These people know what they are doing- they are baiting him into certain actions, trying to get him to act capriciously and to take everything personally. They are doing this on purpose, and have the ability to make any slip into a massive PR blunder on his part.
"Elon needs to play by the rules when defending himself from people who don't believe they're bound by rules"
Yea, that's totes the way to go...
Not to state the obvious but progs and non-progs value different things and want to be around like minded folks-but non-progs tend to prefer more open space. So you are never going to get many of them to move to cities no matter how much you “reform” the cities, which of course will never happen for the reasons you state in this article. Progs like to keep things dysfunctional because it gives them power.
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Nice, tidy model but I don’t think it tracks reality. I know conservatives who love big city things and progressives who love being out in nature.
So, let me see if I get this right. Progressives make cities suck as a place to live and work. Conservatives note that progressives make cities suck as a place to live and work. Conservatives offer up policy proscriptions that would make cities suck less as a place to live and work. Progressives ignore them. Cities wind up sucking more as a place to live and work. And Greenhut’s conclusion? “BOAF SIDES!!!”
The article I read said that Progressives make cities suck while Conservatives, who have no desire to actually fix things, just point and yell about how terrible Progressives are. Then the author suggested that Conservatives should offer policy prescriptions instead of parading about at how Progressives are terrible. So yeah, both sides. One makes things bad while the other does absolutely nothing to make it better.
By desire to fix things do you mean promoting policies that manage people's lives and decisions, but in "good" ways?
I take it you didn't read the article.
"Choice always is better than coercion.... Cities can reduce regulations .... There are plenty of ideas, almost all of which involve community participation, competition, and market-based alternatives."
I assume you skipped those parts because they conflict with the WEEZEN IZ WEFTIST narrative, and the narrative is much more important to you than being honest.
What Greenhut (and you) seem to have missed is that conservatives have offered policy prescriptions to fix things. Many of them are the same policy prescriptions Greenhut himself advocates for further down in the article. They were shouted down, twisted into accusations of racism and generally ignored by the progressives in control. How many times does that have to happen before you decide that it's time to wash your hands of them.
Yes, the Bible says you should turn the other cheek. How many cheeks do you have?
They were shouted down, twisted into accusations of racism and generally ignored by the progressives in control.
Like what?
I'm asking because I don't see it. I see conservatives use cities run by progressives as examples of how progressives are terrible people with bad intentions, but I don't see them offering much in the way of policy. And to be honest I doubt the conservative politicians would fix the cities if they could because, like the majority of the commentariat, their top priority is demonizing the enemy.
Four.
All it takes to understand how cities become a hellhole is one long look at the photo at the top of the article.
Too many buildings and not enough trees? Or that the two blondes on the far right of the picture, walking towards us, are wearing WAAAAY too many clothes, which get in the way of our viewing pleasure?
The public land set aside for mobility from one place to another is almost exclusively for cars. I'm guessing that is Manhattan where well under 50% of residents even own a car so that public land is a free set aside for the suburbs - which doesn't even pay a land tax meaning that taxes (even for a subway underneath that road where peds can be mobile) have to be higher on the developed land.
Indeed, it looks like there is roughly as much mobility public land set aside for immobile parked cars (probably free) as there is for all the people who want to enter/leave those buildings.
That road is designed for car speeds of at least 60+ mph regardless of what signs say. Which means even the sidewalks are within what would be a highway's clearance zone.
There is no fucking way that crosswalk is timed for any human to cross it. Not the woman pushing the stroller. Not the kid. Not any older person. They all have to run across the road - with not even a safety island before the light turns green. Let's ignore those folks having to watch out for the right turn on red crowd who are not only gonna ignore the lights and crosswalk - they probably aren't even looking.
Even the public transit is carved out of the sidewalk not the road.
Those buildings are all the same zoning (commercial) which also eliminates short trips. Which also fits with the near absence of ground level shopping (in a commercial zone) so there is no reason for anyone to be outside anyway.
The combo of both empty and dangerous sidewalks makes it all well suited for - the homeless to take up residence (though I don't see them in this photo).
There at least half a dozen more clues from this photo that have fucking nothing to do with politics.
What a lack of journalistic standards to not mention Elon alleged his son was attacked and that lead to this decision.
Wrong article
His son is not real. He is merely an unknown variable joke to Elon.
His son is one of 55 by 11 different women, so it's kinda hard to keep track. Cut Elon a break!
>>Progressives ... have made urban life a bigger chore
>>Conservatives depict cities as dystopian hellholes.
dear reader: this piece is biased.
Drivers love to rail against "road diets," and complain that alternative transportation options are not attractive enough. But the problem is that you can't make alternative transportation more attractive without addressing how our streets and communities are designed. A bus that sits in traffic will be too slow to be attractive. Communities that are laid out too broadly cannot be efficiently served by bus and rail. Streets that prioritize driver throughput will often be too unsafe for cycling and walking.
To be sure, politicians governing cities too often get it wrong. The reasons for this are complex and difficult to unwind. In a place like NYC, we have corruption driven by real estate interests; a political class that still believes that the car is king; a police force that acts without restraint or accountability; a transportation agency that is governed by the state and so guided by a suburban mentality; a lack of "home rule" over vital transportation and zoning questions that means that upstate politicians have a say over how we manage our own back yard; and so on. Add to that a "there oughtta be a law" mentality to every little problem that faces the city, and you get a vast, overburdened bureaucracy that just provides a place for corruption and incompetence to take root and fester.
But the idea that drivers should not have to give up any space, in order to make our cities more livable, is part of the status quo. To perpetuate the ideology is just to undermine your own argument.
Frankly, I couldn’t care less what you do to drivers in your city. But keep your grubby fingers off the roads outside your city.
Also: give suburbs the freedom to leave the city and become independent, taking their tax revenue with them.
Yeah, sure, then watch suburbs collapse. Who do you think pays for the streets, bub?
Here in NYC - we would love to just focus our attention on our own streets. Unfortunately, some of our streets fall under state jurisdiction, our ability to set speed limits or implement traffic cameras is constrained by state legislators, and there is constant pressure from driving suburbanites/public workers/cops to keep our streets flee-flowing for them. So we cannot always do what makes sense for us and our own interests.
That's nearly always the dynamic - suburbanites plowing over city blocks to make way for their arterial roads and highway interchanges. And city dwellers end up paying for it!
"Who do you think pays for the streets, bub?"
The drivers. Through use taxes (gas taxes and title fees).
The abuse of suburbs by cities is an old, old story. It starts with cities encroaching on a large suburban area, and annexing the shopping malls and business parks, leaving the local residences without a tax base. Then people like you insist that those suburbs are freeloading. That's absurd.
That has happened to my town here. We are ten or so miles from a large city and they keep annexing anything of value here. Shopping mall? Yup, city annexed that --- and literally only that. Hospital gets built? Yup, annex that as well.
"Who do you think pays for the streets, bub?"
Uh, the people who benefit from them?
Try buying groceries delivered by the transit system, steaming pile of lefty shit.
"But the idea that drivers should not have to give up any space, in order to make our cities more livable, is part of the status quo. To perpetuate the ideology is just to undermine your own argument."
Drivers pay the taxes used to fund the space, via use taxes. To the extent that cities abuse eminent domain laws to capture space, that should be reigned in. To the extent that you don't like the taxpayers getting a say in how their taxes will be spent to serve their needs, I really don't care. Your utopian models for buses and trains can be funded some other way.
A bus that sits in traffic (with few riders) is making traffic worse, not better. Most of the buses I see (we have them in the suburbs) are mostly empty.
Shorter version: Huge cities would be great if not for all the people crowded together and behaving as they wish.
People don't want to live in cities because it's so crowded.
Or something Yogi.
Cities have always been hotbeds of crime, disease, and corruption. Cities have also always exploited their political power to enrich themselves at the expense of others. That’s what made them “great”.
Conservatives don’t need to “join” anybody. Let’s cities do their own thing and don’t give them a dime in state or federal funding.
Too much “planning” with Gov-Guns…. Not enough Individual Liberty and Justice….
It’s a self-sustaining root of despair. The less free (more managed) an area gets the more helpless/insignificant the people feel. Sadly instead of realizing their loss of freedom is the symptom the (shorter path/criminal though) is to gang-up and try to “manage” others with Gov-Guns (i.e. self-sustaining root of despair).
Self-destructive tendencies.
Politics can often get in the way of what makes cities great. Politicians have the power to make decisions that can have a major impact on a city’s quality of life, and those decisions are often made with the short term in mind. Politicians may prioritize short-term gains over investments that could provide long-term benefits. This can lead to things like underinvestment in infrastructure and public services, which can have a major impact on the city for years to come.
Politicians also have the power to shape the economic and social dynamics of a city. They can decide which businesses receive incentives and which neighborhoods are targeted for development. This can lead to gentrification and displacement, as well as economic inequality.
Finally, politics can also get in the way of what makes cities great when politicians act in their own self-interest, rather than the interest of their constituents. Politicians may prioritize the needs of their own allies or backers, or they may prioritize their own agenda over the needs of the city. This can lead to a lack of accountability and a lack of trust between elected officials and their constituents.
What do politicians have that separates them from any other run of the mill group/business/association??????????????????
Legal GUN-FORCE... That's it.. That's all. They don't have wizard wands and magical money trees. They don't have Godly powers. They control a "monopoly of Gun-Force"..
Now.............. What can a GUN possibly accomplish that isn't a negative on humanity??? Oh yeah; That's right. *ensuring* Individual Liberty and Justice for all....
This whole GUNS can make this or GUNS can create this or GUNS can manage this is the very problem with Gov-Gun packing politicians.
The Italians elected Mussolini to make the trains run on time. That seems to be the point of this article. High-density urban centers cannot function without dictatorship to keep the unions in line and pay off the organized criminals. The problem with cities is that they are NOT a "boon" to civilization. They were a solution to a problem a century ago that no longer exists. Productive people no longer have to walk to work or take the subway.
There is a third way, of course. It means supporting reform policies that improve life in the city. Like everything these days, the right v. left culture wars have tainted debates about urban governance. Urban policy need not be so partisan—but it becomes that way for obvious reasons. Democrats dominate the politics of virtually every big city and Republicans often dominate the outskirts.
My city was not turned into a shithole because of left-right bowf sidez politics, my city was turned into a shithole because there was no politically right counterbalance to the far left wing mindset. It got the way it got not because of a polarized debate, but because there was no debate. Far left progressives seized ever more control over the levers of power, and then there was no one left to stop them.
Interesting you claim progressives "seized" power, when they are elected and re-elected.
Well, goddamned reason ate my comment again.
Nothing in my comment suggests that's not the case. The people of Seattle voted for this, and voted hard for it.
Repeat of FDR and the Great Depression (pure Blue Vote).
It seems to take people a while to re-learn the fact that Gov-Gun THEFT isn't sustainable after it's been granted. *EARNING*, working and creating resources is required for resources to exist.
Hopefully the Blue-Vote will learn again before they destroy too much.
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Sorry, but I don't understand the point of this article. If the lefties who live in big cities can't make their elected and appointed officials fix their own cities, who can? Or is this just wishful thinking about what people SHOULD - but won't - do? If so, there's plenty of things people should - but won't - do already! It's a very long list and the culture wars are the result of people not insisting on liberty and limited government and then seeking some strong-woman to lead their crusade against the other guys.
The actual, though unintended, point of the article is that progressives live where they want, and conservatives live where they want. Both groups maintain their preference through elections.
On the other hand, progressives just might be creating the cities they want. Many feel strongly about their right to poop in the street and vote accordingly. Many also believe strongly that society should be poorer and strive to make it so. Detroit is an example of what can be achieved.
The sight of tent cities makes their hearts go pitter-patter. The homeless don’t require houses and consume little, and much of what they consume is old or table scraps. The big concern is that most of the tents are made of some sort of petroleum derived synthetic and some of the table scraps may not be organic. That still needs to be worked on, but they’re getting there. Are rats organic enough?
Define doublethink:
1. Righties gleefully point to, say, the phone app that helps people navigate the piles of human poop that are an unfortunate reality on San Francisco's homeless-filled streets.
2. San Francisco remains one of the most beautiful cities in the country, yet it lost 6.3 percent of its population from 2020 to 2021.
Neither Greenhut nor the editors think there is a problem with those sentences sharing the same article..
If 2 is true given 1, what the hell are the rest of the cities like?
But get far enough from urban areas, out in the country, and that's where hippies and right wingers mix. Same as they get together in the health food movement.
It's just the lefts envy (i.e. dehumanization) traits at work. They are gang-based ([WE] mob RULES) believers and therefore must RULE/STEAL over something.
Cities have existed since people shifted from hunter gatherer to agriculture. Starting as marketplaces and ports, cities have simple built to manufacturing and centers of commerce. Transportation itself drove the building of the large urban area at the expense of the smaller rural towns. Even today the suburbs are being slowing draw into adjoining cities to create consolidated metropolitan areas that often must work together.
As for the politics of the city I would suggest that libel vs conservative is not as powerful as NIMBY. It doesn't matter whether the city or a private party is building new low-income housing people will support the idea but not near their house. People take pride in their airport but complain about the noise. People want homeless people gone, but are concerned about the homeless's civil rights. There really is no simple answer as much as people would want one.
Sure there is. Having enough incentive/freedom to save yourself.
The best possible solution has been there all along. The principles of the US Constitution based on Individualism and Justice for all.
What's really happening is people want to make Gov-Gun forced plans for other people's labor (slavery) and property (sozialism/communism) but aren't being required to DO IT themselves (essentially what you've just stated).
The left; Still the party of slavery.
And still hasn't accepted slavery is one of the worst economically and humanitarian-ly.
If you want to see an allegory of Detroit, Barbarian, the recent movie, which was reviewed by a blogger here.
I life in a deep blue suburb and all I can say is that your characterization of politics in where people live couldn't possibly be more incorrect. The urban/suburban divide is an issue of income and nothing else unless you are talking about economic elites who are immune to the consequences of bad policy. People live in cities because they have to and can't afford to go anywhere else. These cities usually trap their residents through a devil's arrangement of the lowest and highest classes. The policies of these elites, which are typically left of center, depress and cripple the lower classes from rising.
In the event the lower classes amass a popular movement, they are typically so uninformed and uneducated that they end up supporting the preferred policies of these elites. They can't figure out the manipulation and gaslighting because there's either nobody giving them correct information or they're too much of a lost cause to overcome the divide.
The reason the majority of Americans avoid cities is because nobody wants to put up with this nonsense. It shouldn't be the burden of the rest of us to fix cities by making our own lives uncomfortable. Let the existing cities face the consequences of their own actions. Old ones will either wise up over time or new ones will form and replace them.
Conservatives depict cities as dystopian hellholes.
West Philly
Olney
Northern Liberties
Gray's Ferry
The conservatives are right.
Pretty much all of north and west philly. Obligatory kensington as well.
Sundown town used to mean don't be black after dark. Now it applies to everyone: don't be there at all.
Forgot about Kensington. And Fishtown was going up until Kenney came into office, then it went to hell again.
Here’s a very middle of the road opinion. Tax breaks on Muni bonds should be abolished. This is why extremely wealthy suburbanites and Estate trusts vote for Democrats in the federal and state governors races. So NYC, Philly, Honolulu, Portland and Chicago are bankrupt. The best thing for these cities would be to go into bankruptcy protection and screw bond holders. The feds keep pumping money via “grants” delaying the inevitable. Bond holders, like pensioners, keep getting paid. Investing is risky- sometimes you have to take a hit. See Puerto Rico for more on this matter.
Shorter Greenhut: Both sides bad!
Not quite as short translation: Dems messed up almost every big city they run. Repubs are meanies for pointing that out.
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“The message from the former(progs): We should all live in densely packed urban areas, where we can stroll to cafes and stores and take the bus to work, but we can't (or won't) make the streets safer, the schools better or the transit systems less miserable. The message from the latter (conservatives):Stay away from cities and hole up in placid but uninteresting suburbs.”
Was THAT supposed to be a “both-sider?”
Sounds more like a no-brainer to me!
I grew up in a small town on the erie canal and even thought I'v lived in Dallas, Atlanta, and Cincy never understood the cosmo woke mentality. Living in dense apartments with no car? You will spend most of your free time trying to get your groceries and stuff you buy home. No open spaces, too many people, too many nosy people, and never been in a city that didn't smell like shi&. Humans had to live in cities before the industrial revolution. No need any more for work, knowledge (don't need to go the library anymore), collaboration and so on. Cities are obsolete..corrupt, crime filled, run by morons who couldn't survive outside of stealing from others. And degenerate. Berlin and Vienna are classic examples of the degeneracy of cosmo types.
Reason needs to get their writers out of LA/DC/NYC and live in real America
Not "industrial". "Telecommunication and Transportation" Sorry about that.
Best Reason article of the year. Thank you.
As a libertarian car enthusiast who likes sports cars, luxury high rises, a wide variety of ethnic restaurants, and live music -- who is fine with ethnic and cultural diversity -- and who can't stand bureaucracy and polticial correctness -- I do feel like there is no place that is a perfect fit. I live in a big blue coastal city for the career opportunities and lifestyle, but I'm constantly rolling my eyes at the politics and policies of the city government.