James Cameron's Avatar: The Way of Water Is a Can-You-Believe-It Spectacle That Looks to the Future
Also, there are battle whales.

James Cameron's Avatar: The Way of Water is not a masterpiece.
It's too long, too cheesy, too self-indulgent and simplistic in its portrayal of a clash between environmental-spiritual natives and soulless corporate profit hunters. But it might be something better than a masterpiece, something more essential: an earnest, populist, can-you-believe-it cinematic spectacle built on hope in progress and the future.
To understand my near-ecstatic reaction to Cameron's long-in-the-works, tech-driven sci-fi sequel, consider the context.
From the late 1970s through the early 2000s, Hollywood deployed a rapidly evolving toolkit of new digital technologies designed to advance big screen spectacle. These films all made an implicit—and sometimes in marketing materials, explicit—promise: to deploy gee-whiz futuristic technology to show you something you'd never seen before.
And thus for a quarter century or so, moviegoers were treated to an ever-expanding array of cinematic spectacles that embodied a spirit of technological optimism in form if not always in content: Breathless dogfights between starfighters created using computer-controlled cameras in the original Star Wars, a computer-generated liquid robot in Terminator 2, digitally rendered dinosaurs that sprinted in flocks in Jurassic Park, the first entirely-computer-generated feature in Toy Story, bullet-time slo-mo in The Matrix, and a motion-capture Gollum in the Lord of the Rings films.
These films were, if not explicitly built around advances in cinematic tech, heavily reliant on them. And in the main, these marriages of technological novelty and popular artistry produced movies that were, at the very least, pretty good—well-crafted, populist, unabashedly crowd-pleasing, liked or at least not despised by most critics, and box office hits in return. While they might not have been high art, they represented the triumph of the middlebrow. In turn, many became cultural touchstones.
From time to time, these novel effects–driven films took a turn for the strange or the awkward, as in George Lucas' Star Wars prequels, but even there, the movies were hits, and they look somewhat better in retrospect, with critics and fans reassessing their virtues in light of what Hollywood has delivered in the interim.
Looking back, it's clear that these movies promised something more than just a novel visual experience. They were predicated on an assumption that was all too easy to take for granted at the time: With their wows and their can-you-believe-its, they promised a future in which, thanks to the wonders of technology, the world would become a more expansive, more interesting, more spectacular place.
And in the ensuing decades, that's an idea that Hollywood, along with the rest of the culture, has largely lost.
Since roughly the early '00s, the most notable advances in Hollywood have come not from new technology built for the big screen, but from Marvel-style shared-world storytelling, which brought social media–style friend-of-a-friend connectedness to superhero films, with Iron Man and Spider-Man and Captain America essentially showing up in each other's timelines to quip and comment. These films make heavy use of computer-generated imagery, but it's often quite shoddy looking, comparing poorly even to movies made two decades prior. In these films, digital technology is a crutch, enabling stagnation.
Digital technology has evolved, becoming faster and cheaper, but that evolution has been most apparent on the small screen, where, from Game of Thrones to Lord of the Rings to the TV-ification of Star Wars itself, the sort of elaborate digital spectacle formerly reserved for big-budget theatrical experiences has migrated to flat-panel televisions and phones. Hollywood's evolution, in other words, mirrored the evolution of the larger culture, souring on technology as its uses became smaller, more familiar, and less capable of inducing awe.
So it is hardly a shock that the biggest advances in theatrical spectacle have come not from futuristic technology but from redeployments of the old, pre-digital ways: Christopher Nolan flipping a semitruck in downtown Chicago for The Dark Knight, Tom Cruise flying in a fighter plane cockpit as it zooms just above tree height over the desert, the gritty post-apocalyptic truck chases of Mad Max: Fury Road. Hollywood's analog revanchists have produced truly astounding images and great movies, but they've been throwbacks, premised at least to some degree on the idea that the old ways are the best.
Which brings us back to Cameron and Avatar: The Way of Water.
The predecessor, 2009's Avatar, was one of the few films of the past two decades to attempt to build a popular blockbuster out of innovative technology. Notably, Cameron first began working on the script in the mid-1990s, when the technology was too nascent to make the movie. Avatar was not a great movie, but like Lucas' Star Wars prequels, it looks better in retrospect: Not only does it rely on novel technology, but it's grounded in deep and extensive original world-building, a universe—or at least a planet and an ecosystem—that Cameron brought from his imagination to the screen.
The Way of Water improves on both the cinematic technology and the vast world-building in every way, to great success. Like the first film, it's meant to be seen in 3D, which became fashionable for a few years after Cameron used it so well. But few if any of his imitators did, and 3D was phased out as it became seen as a pointless, often irritating gimmick. The same goes for Cameron's use of high frame rate (HFR) photography, which makes for images that are so smooth and sharp they seem hyperreal. Other filmmakers have experimented with HFR, but succeeded only in images that reveal a distracting and distancing soap opera–like cheapness.
Cameron, in contrast, combines the two, along with some of the most detailed computer-generated artistry I've ever seen, to create an enveloping alien world. It too presents as hyperreal, but in a way that adds startling depth and weight, in marked contrast to the pixelated weightlessness of so much contemporary CGI. It's startling and frankly breathtaking, a deeply immersive, technology-mediated experience I've never had before. Watching Avatar: The Way of Water often resembles watching a particularly lush and vivid nature documentary, but set on an alien planet with intelligent battle whales.
Did I forget to mention the battle whales? There are intelligent battle whales. They rule.
Cameron's three-hour-plus extravaganza is almost giddy with grand science fictional ideas about alien ecology and advanced maritime technology, some of which are silly but are always awesome. Cameron consistently over-delivers on wow factor.
The underlying story, meanwhile, is a surprisingly intimate family drama about the difficulty of being a teenager and a parent. This is populist, universalist, high-tech, big-screen filmmaking of the sort Hollywood has largely abandoned, which makes The Way of Water a sly throwback itself, one that looks fondly to the triumphs of the past while clearing the way for what's next.
It's not great art, perhaps, but it's a triumph of middlebrow entertainment, delivered with showmanship, panache—and the promise of a bigger, better, bolder future.
Or, at the very least, three more Avatar movies.
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Ferngully 3: Waterworld.
Yeah. My prediction is massive tank.
30 yrs. ago when Cameron was using bleeding edge technology to tell a story no one ever told before in a medium that, while showing its age, was still the pinnacle of entertainment the 'spectacle' may've been relevant. Now that Disney, Marvel, and a dozen other studios push out 8 hours of CGI-packed crap every month, a CGI-based story set on the planet of 'Pandora', based around the McGuffin 'unobtanium', and using "cutting edge" technology that's been in use in video games for over a decade isn't going to cut it.
The problem with Avatar is that it was a story that had been told before. Many, many times.
And usually told better than he did.
Right. In case it wasn't clear, "30 yrs. ago" is not a reference to the original Avatar.
The original story was abject shit but the CGI was relatively unprecedented. Now, he's telling the sequel to the same shitty story using technology that your average FPS gamer would consider to be borderline unacceptable.
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Oh, my snark above was a reference to the fact that when I saw the first Avatar movie, I thought it bore a striking resemblance to Ferngully, an animated Captain Planet style enviro-fantasy movie.
It's basically the same plot.
Also, odd coincidence, but Ferngully also debuted 30 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FernGully:_The_Last_Rainforest
You know what else debuted 30 years ago?
Super Nintendo?
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The original was a mash-up of already done plot points from:
Ferngully
Pocahontas
Dances with wolves
Probably a couple other movies.
It succeeded because it happened at a time where CGI was getting much better. We have gone so far the other way. CGI is fantastic, and they can do pretty much anything with it...and due to that its been so overused that people have gotten bored with it.
Avatar 2 might succeed (in terms of views anyways) solely because of a combination of its name recognition and the fact that its at least something outside of the bog standard woke disney trash (though I highly suspect there will still be plenty anyways). But it still will very likely be a throw away in current times.
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Make that five decades.
The first "alien planet with intelligent battle whales." was Frank Herbert's Caladan, as elaborated on in one of his son's interminable series of Dune sequels. The inference being that they evolved intelligence and aggression in consequence of being hunted for their fur.
"soulless corporate profit hunters"
I'm shocked that an employee of Charles Koch wouldn't appreciate that portrayal. 😉
But seriously I thought the first Avatar was a fun standalone movie that never made me demand a new franchise, especially if the first of 4 (!) sequels is longer than 3 hours.
"Other filmmakers have experimented with HFR"
Peter Jackson thought it was going to revolutionize movies by making them look worse.
"We're looking forward to another depressing year of sequels and remakes"
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Seven years ago. Seven. S-E-V-E-N years ago. 7. Seven.
And people say profit-motive will force Hollywood to learn from its mistakes.
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“soulless corporate profit hunters”
Which, somewhat ironically, essentially describes Cameron's whole aesthetic, having never made a movie that wasn't a soulless cash grab.
Umm, are you at all familiar with James Cameron's movies? "Soulless cash grab" is not an accurate description of any of his directorial efforts. Several of his films were very risky financial ventures, and the man is clearly impassioned by his creations.
Several of his films were very risky financial ventures, and the man is clearly impassioned by his creations.
?
I'm unclear on which Cameron movies took risks, as every single one I've ever seen has been a bland genre piece generated from clichés. Perhaps you can enlighten me.
Well, depending how you interpret "risks"...
From the standpoint of multiple record-setting budgets invested in original, albeit high-concept stories which needed to push the craft forward in order to succeed. I get that you think the end-product of Cameron's filmography is bland and cliched, but that still does not make the effort a soulless cash grab. And I have no idea how you consider True Lies bland if you're sincere.
“soulless corporate profit hunters”
Im sure while portraying said soulless profit hunters they never come to the realization of who these people actually are in modern society
The first avatar had a moral theme of heroic communism, resentment, and promoted trans identity. Also, the natives' religion and way of life was based on successfully raping an innocent animal and making it your slave from that point on. The climax of the movie was the main character betraying all his friends, and humanity, leading to their deaths and galaxy wide suffering for everyone who depended on them.
It's probably the most anti free market film ever released.
Dark stuff. The good guys got massacred by all those ugly blue rapists.
It was pretty obvious from the original film that the Navari weren't native to Pandora either. All the life forms on Pandora were six limbed, except the Navari.
Clearly they had arrived from elsewhere earlier and had gene engineered/hacked the local wildlife so they could control it. They were just as much colonists and exploiters as the humans.
But with Hot blue chicks.
need bigger boobs to be properly considered 'hot'
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Good point.
But by "engineered/hacked" you mean "raped".
They raped the shit out of everything.
Took the idea of rape culture to a whole new level.
I'll just leave this here...
Lol
They were one with nature!!!!1!!1!!1!
Is there any trace of testosterone in the movie? That's how I judge a movie, if it's got any toxic masculinity in it I won't see it for fear of being triggered and having to retreat to my safe space at the women's collective.
Is there any trace of testosterone in the movie?
Cameron's complaints about toxic testosterone are about as sincere as his complaints about capitalism. Even his female characters chomp cigars, swear and spit, which is his version of "feminism." There are few who despise femininity, especially in women, with the passion of Cameron.
But he says he despises testosterone and capitalism because there's a buck to made there, and you gotta do what you gotta do.
Even his female characters chomp cigars, swear and spit, which is his version of “feminism.”
Like most of woke Hollywood, his idea of a "strong woman" is to just make all the women masculine and perfect Mary Sues while making all the men pathetic, incompetent soy boys with manginas.
Most of his films are about some guy taking a shine to a woman and giving his life so she can man up and do things his way. And for some reason he thinks this makes him culturally progressive.
whole thing was fucking weird the first time around and now it's Beach Blanket Blue-go
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The AOC climate change documentary that screened at 120 theaters over the weekend, and earned under $10k (or, $80/ theater?)
You would apparently be one of the first people to see it.
$80 is way more than I thought it would bring in.
$80/ theater
With current ticket prices + popcorn that's like two people per screen.
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My local theater still thinks I should wear a mask, so this movie can join the entire pile of shit I am not going to bother seeing.
“These films were, if not explicitly built around advances in cinematic tech, heavily reliant on them.” Suderman needs to take a grammar class.
Yeah - that's a pretty serious comma fail for a professional writer.
I say we take off and nuke all the Navari sites from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
It seems that the only way these films can work is if the humans are dumber than dirt and refuse to use their actual technological superiority. If not dropping nukes then we could easily be dropping rocks on the Navari from orbit. Microwave laser an area we want to exploit (again from orbit) to make sure there is no annoying wildlife to get in the way. That sort of thing.
Star Wars prequels, but even there, the movies were hits, and they look somewhat better in retrospect, with critics and fans reassessing their virtues in light of what Hollywood has delivered in the interim.
Yes. As Quentin Tarantino recently said, "We're in the worst era of filmmaking ever."
As Hollywood has rammed itself further and further down the woke rabbit hole and turned into an accounting/hr office slavishly driven towards box checking, this phenomenon of reassessing films that were previously panned is an emerging pattern. Fans are so dismayed at what Hollywood produces now, that things that were considered 'bad' 20 years ago now suddenly look like earnest attempts at honest entertainment. Which, in defense of those things, they were. They were just poorly executed.
As one critic presciently said several years ago, "You wait and watch what Disney does to Star Wars, and you'll be BEGGING for George Lucas to come back."
For those not keeping score at home, George Lucas has oft been criticized by Star Wars superfans for his stilted dialog and other flaws, which now feel like genius-auteur level filmmaking by modern standards. Hollywood is the platonic example of "It can ALWAYS get worse" (and the worse it gets, the better the old bad stuff starts to look).
As Quentin Tarantino recently said, “We’re in the worst era of filmmaking ever.”
Oh, I don't know. I think we may just tend to not remember how shitty a lot of things were in the past, because they were also forgettable.
I've never seen Samurai Cop, but I'd bet it's a hell of a lot more enjoyable than 99% of what's put out today.
Though I did watch Dune the other night. Really good.
At least with movies like that, there's that indescribable 'B' feeling that can be entertaining if only to theorize what went so wrong and how it ended up where it fell.
Watching an abortion of a movie that cost upwards of 300 million dollars just makes me feel sad for everyone involved. There isn't enough soul there to really even enjoy the mistakes.
Say what you will, I’m still not watching “Stop, Or My Mother Will Shoot.”
"and turned into an accounting/hr office slavishly driven towards box checking"
This is probably the best way to put it.
They replaced actual actors, writers, and directors with what an AI software would produce if it was modeling: "Politically correct" + "Diversity/Inclusion" + "Nostalgia / Beloved Intellectual property" + "Accounting software"
And it churns out exactly what you would expect: the kind of script a modern NPC liberal would write. It destroys everything anyone loved about the franchises they use, attempts to be funny but completely fails (think...and woke comedian, especially woke female comedian), and is best described as an amalgamation of preachy and boring with enough franchise material to draw in mindless ticket sales and make enough profit. All while showing they have nothing but contempt for any fans and solely care about milking any drop of profit left.
Written by and for unhappy, unfunny, self-righteous liberals that are completely consumed with identity politics, and dont even themselves really enjoy the material they are using. This is what you get
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"Fans are so dismayed at what Hollywood produces now, that things that were considered ‘bad’ 20 years ago now suddenly look like earnest attempts at honest entertainment. Which, in defense of those things, they were. They were just poorly executed."
I think the other problem is that the people who were impressionable morons (aka 8 - 13 year old kids) are now 20 - 30 something adults who have not yet understood that they were impressionable morons at that point. So instead of saying Star Wars was fine for a kid, but ultimately pretty bad, they have to narcissistically insist that they were in fact pretty good if you turn off your frontal lobe.
Case in point: https://reason.com/2022/11/15/star-wars-episodes-i-ii-and-iii/
The simplicity of the original Star Wars coupled with the classic "hero journey" story line and the ground breaking realism for a scifi movie are what made them good movies. Cheesy dialog not withstanding.
I maintain that the sequel dulogy was fine. The problem wasn’t Abrams or Disney or the Lucas executive, they delivered a couple movies that hit all the nostalgia beats and concluded the Skywalker story.
But fuck Rian Johnson and his blue milk tit sea monsters and his shoehorning Rose and his stupid decision making Resistance “leaders”.
There is no chance this movie will be anything other than a pile of garbage. Youve been warned.
Also Ketanji seems to be a bit of a moron from what i can tell. Only Sotomayor is outdoing her at this point.
Terminator, T2, Aliens. Soulless cash grab? Hell, True Lies was fun.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I have seen parts of the first Avatar. As with most sci-fi, other than Star Trek and Star Wars, it's boring.
Give me a good war picture, rom-com, murder mystery, or British historical drama. Now, if the Zucker brothers did a spoof, like they spoofed "The High and the Mighty" with "Airplane," I would see that.
There were also battle whales in Black Panther Wakanda Forever. I didn't watch that piece of shit either.
FACT: I hate CGI when it serves to "carry the movie" instead of a good plot and realistic action scenes. Additionally, Hollyweird's woke BS and environmentalism is always good and capitalism is always bad propaganda has kept me from a movie theater for the past 5 years.
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I won’t watch any more James Cameron movies until the man rids himself of his toxic masculinity and fully transitions into a woman! It’s only fair to hold him to his own standards!
As for Avatar and its sequels, it’s crap anyway.
Cameron, who apparently believes that "testosterone" is a systemic poison that men must "get out of their system" gets none of our money.
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Or as I call it, Water World with aliens.