Conservative Cancel Culture Comes to Kurdistan
Religious Kurds used social media to shut down a rap concert—and they're swinging their weight around politics, too.

Iranian Kurds were risking their lives to protest the government's Islamic dress code. Protests that had begun over the death of a Kurdish woman in "morality police" custody turned into a nationwide uprising against the theocracy. Teenagers confronted the police while women burned their mandatory headscarves in the street.
Just across the border, some Iraqi Kurds held solidarity rallies. Iraqi Kurdish influencer Dana Nawzar Jaf, who wants to "make Kurdistan great again" (and whose Twitter account is now suspended) had other ideas.
"There is freedom to wear the hijab, but not to burn the hijab. It is disrespectful and cowardly," he tweeted. "Publish the names, photos, and addresses of those who have insulted the veil."
Reason could not reach Nawzar Jaf, who has since been banned from Twitter, for comment. His brother Yahya Nawzar Jaf declined to share his contact information, arguing that Dana Nawzar Jaf "does not talk to the media. His views are published on Twitter and YouTube."
The Nawzar Jaf brothers are part of a chorus of conservatives gaining ground on Kurdish social media. Positioning themselves as the protectors of traditional culture, they've harnessed the internet to swing their weight around Iraqi Kurdish politics. And it seems to be working.
Last month, Egyptian rapper Mohamed Ramadan had been set to perform in Erbil, the Iraqi Kurdish capital. He is known for mahraganat music, a rowdy genre full of references to sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll. After a hashtag campaign, authorities shut down the concert, citing "the values and principles of society."
Earlier this fall, the Iraqi Kurdish parliament shot down a bill to strengthen protections against domestic violence. The parliament is now debating a law, which has majority support, to censor pro-LGBT publications and arrest people who "promote homosexuality." Activists believe that social media pressure influenced both moves.
Most Kurds are Muslim, but the rising Kurdish conservatives are not old-style Islamist theocrats. (Recent events, such as the war against the Islamic State, have made that brand of politics toxic.) Instead, they've focused on stirring up outrage about supposed insults to Islamic family values and Kurdish identity. And they've found social media to be their best tool for organizing their campaigns.
In other words, right-wing cancel culture has come to Kurdistan.
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Islamist politics had once been all the rage in the Middle East. Beginning in the late 1970s, a wave of religion-based movements swept through the region, successfully installing an Islamic republic in Iran, forcing the Soviet presence out of Afghanistan, and seriously threatening Arab governments.
With the Arab Spring in the early 2010s, religious populists joined Arab liberals in revolutions calling for greater political freedoms. As the uprisings were crushed or turned into bloody civil wars, Arab public trust in Islamist parties dropped tremendously, polling shows.
And many Iranians soured on theocracy as their society became more educated and plugged into international media. Even government-sponsored polls, which once claimed that Islamic dress codes were overwhelmingly popular among Iranians, now find that a shrinking minority wants the police to enforce the hijab.
Following the U.S. wars with Iraq in 1991 and 2003, Kurdish parties with pro-American politics managed to carve out an autonomous zone in northern Iraq. After the 2003 war, Erbil and Sulaimani became known as some of the few Iraqi cities where Americans could party openly.
Add to that the rise of left-wing Kurdish rebellions in Turkey and Syria, with their own women's brigades. These guerrillas gained international fame by confronting the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. Long-haired fighters chanting the slogan "women, life, freedom" shot back at wild-eyed sectarian extremists.
In September 2022, a Kurdish woman named Mahsa Jina Amini died in Iranian police custody after her arrest for supposedly wearing an "improper" hijab. Protests against religious rule spread from her hometown in Kurdistan Province to cities across Iran, and many non-Kurdish liberals adopted the slogan "women, life, freedom" as their own.
French philosopher Bernard-Henri Levy has declared that the Kurds are standard-bearers of an "exceptional strain of enlightened Islam" against "every form of tyranny that the terrible 20th century spawned." But looks can be deceiving.
Even though Islamism has not caught on in the same ways, Kurdish society is still very traditional, and Iraqi Kurdish politics are rooted in the aristocratic rural clans that dominate the region. Yahya Nawzar Jaf argues that Kurds are actually more "conservative compared to Persians, Arabs, and Turks."
Edith Szanto is a professor of religious studies at the University of Alabama who taught at the American University of Iraq, Sulaimani for eight years. She argues that Kurdistan is quite similar to the American South, as family honor and social stigma are powerful social forces.
Naren Briar, a Kurdish-American researcher who works on ethnic and religious minority issues in Kurdistan, describes those forces differently, as "violent misogyny and pseudo-intellectual nonsense."
"It is evident that this ideology permeates deeply in Kurdish society, through social media, and in everyday life," she says.
Even Erbil is more old-fashioned than it may seem. While its gated communities are happy to cater to the lifestyles of foreign patrons and jet-setting elites, the old city is quite conservative, even by Middle Eastern standards. Shop loudspeakers play Quranic recitations rather than Muzak background music, men and women alike wear traditional garb in the streets, and alcohol is not sold openly in Muslim neighborhoods.
Sulaimani has a more liberal reputation because the hijab is less common and alcohol more abundant. (Drinking is considered a sin in Islam.) Other social norms are still in play.
"There are families who have money to send their daughters to school, who might dress a certain way, but that doesn't mean they're letting their daughters go out into the bazaar, because that's eyb," argues Szanto, using a Kurdish word for social stigma.
The internet was originally a liberating force in Kurdistan, according to Kurdish writer Kamal Chomani.
"It was very revolutionary. For the first time, uncensored criticism appeared in the Kurdistan region," he says. "All of a sudden, I was connected with everyone. Every single [non-Kurdish] activist, Kurdish activist, journalist, academic from any part of the world. That gave me and many other people like me a chance to discuss issues, to debate, to strategize, to mobilize."
But conservatives and religious extremists also took advantage of it "from the beginning," according to Chomani, who is a non-resident fellow at the Kurdish Peace Institute, a nonprofit research organization where I am also a non-resident fellow.
In general, social media has become another place for enforcing social conformity. In some cases, Kurdish women who "marry someone of status will put on the hijab and delete everything from before" in order to preserve their reputations as loyal wives, Szanto notes.
Kurdish conservatism isn't always the drab, by-the-book puritanism that militant Islamists favor. Many conservatives are more drawn to Sufism, a current of Islam focused on mystical experiences and charismatic preachers.
"They go to zikr on their phones," Szanto says, using a term for Sufi meditation circles. "They're the equivalent of evangelicals."
In addition to families policing their own, Chomani and Briar say that a major force behind conservatism online is unemployed young men with nothing better to do.
On the flip side, Yahya Nawzar Jaf argues that the liberal elite has been pushing foreign values on the humble masses of Kurds.
"Those who have ruled [Iraqi] Kurdistan for the last 30 years," he says, "do not feel attached to Kurdish values, but rather to the [foreign] countries where they studied and grew up."
***
The picture is a bit more complicated than that, Szanto argues.
Many liberal Kurds were indeed educated abroad, the sons and daughters of Kurdish exile families who returned to Kurdistan after a long stay in wealthier and more secular places like Berlin, Oslo, and Nashville. Yet many conservative voices also come from elite backgrounds. Although they often enjoy foreign luxury goods, they do not feel attracted to a fully cosmopolitan lifestyle.
"'Conservative' in Iraqi Kurdistan does not mean 'poor people,' by the way. It means middle- and upper-middle-class," Szanto says. "It's self-policing within the same social class."
That may help explain why Mohamed Ramadan's concert was canceled last month.
In its homeland, Egypt, mahraganat music is known as a working-class genre that aggressively flouts social taboos. At underground street concerts and on SoundCloud pages, mahraganat musicians rap about gangster adventures, messy breakups, and smoking weed. Egyptian authorities have repeatedly tried to ban the genre.
The planned concert in Erbil was a different story. It would be held at the Ankawa Royal Hotel, a posh venue down the street from the U.S. Consulate. (Ankawa, the old Assyrian Christian quarter, has become the favorite neighborhood of foreigners from rich countries.) Basic tickets sold for $100 apiece (in American dollars) or $500 for the VIP section.
"Who's going to buy tickets to the Mohamed Ramadan concert? The kids of the conservative elite," Szanto says. "When your own children might go, that's when it becomes threatening."
Iraq had already hosted a Ramadan concert in December 2021. His concert in Baghdad was a public relations fiasco. Images of the rapper wearing a skimpy shirt and kissing a woman's hand scandalized Iraqi social media. To make matters worse, conservatives were angry that the concert coincided with the Martyrdom of Lady Fatima, a Shiite Muslim day of mourning.
Islamic cleric Jaafar al-Ibrahimi condemned the concert, complaining in a sermon that Baghdadis had spent millions of dollars to see an "ugly, filthy, gay, black prostitute." Protesters held up placards and prayed outside the venue. Officials distanced themselves from the performance. Politicians condemned it.
"The main issue wasn't political or religious for me, but preserving public decency," says Erbil-based journalist Othman Alshalash, who opposed both the Baghdad and Erbil concerts. He says society is "under pressure from groups that want to spread this trashy art."
In late September 2022, Ramadan announced a new Middle Eastern tour, including one stop in Erbil.
Arab conservatives demanded the cancellation of the concerts. Governments quickly caved. Within a few days, Egyptian authorities shut down a planned concert in Alexandria, while the Syrian artists' guild and the Qatari Ministry of Culture denied that they had given approval to the performances to begin with.
The rapper responded by holding an impromptu parade in the streets of Alexandria. Surrounded by cheering fans, he posted a video to Facebook with the caption, "You have the power to cancel my concert, you have the power to destroy, but you're not popular like I am."
The controversy was a bit slower in reaching Kurdistan. In mid-October, word of the tour spread through Kurdish conservative circles.
While the concert in Baghdad had been tame by American standards, the internet allowed Kurds to see Ramadan's more wild exploits in other countries.
Influencers dug up images of the Egyptian rapper thrusting his hips without a shirt on and dancing with women in bikinis. Some of the images were taken from "BUM BUM," a satirical music video in which Ramadan gets blackout drunk and then realizes he had tried to seduce another man.
"Kurds and even many [Arab] Iraqis still adhere to their traditions and social norms. Mohamed Ramadan, who broke them in Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, and even in Baghdad, may not know the nature of Iraqi society in provinces outside of Baghdad," says Alshalash.
Thousands of Facebook accounts posted under the hashtag "Erbil doesn't welcome immorality," and videos with that hashtag received tens of thousands of views on TikTok. It got the attention of political authorities.
Two days after the hashtag campaign began, the Kurdish regional government brought the hammer down. Omid Khoshnaw, governor of Erbil, canceled the concert. Ali Hama Saleh Taha, a member of parliament from the anti-establishment party Movement for Change, took credit for inspiring the decision.
"We did this for the sake of our community. I hope it won't be mistaken for opposing freedom," Saleh Taha wrote in a Facebook post. "In every society, there are lines that must be defended. Some things do a lot of damage to social values."
Calling the Egyptian rapper an outcast in his own society, Saleh Taha accused Ramadan of promoting "drug abuse, sexual abuse, and homosexuality."
Social media activism was "the first and last [cause] in the concert's cancellation," Yahya Nawzar Jaf claims.
The concert's organizers seem to agree. In a statement after the cancellation, organizer Ammar Selo complained about the "systematic campaigns against the Egyptian legend, Mohammad Ramadan, whether through social media or otherwise."
***
The cancellation campaigns on social media are just one part of a broader swing toward the right in Kurdish politics. In the past few months, the Iraqi Kurdish parliament has rejected a proposal to increase protections against domestic violence and introduced a new law against LGBT activism.
This summer, Kurdish women's rights organizations had been sounding the alarm about a disturbing increase in beatings and murders by family members. And brutal crimes against women in Jordan and Egypt—in both countries, a young man killed a female college student for rejecting him—had sent shockwaves across the Middle East.
"Every month we are plagued with another news headline that offers the story of a woman seeking freedom from her abusive husband, only to fall victim to an honor killing—if not perpetrated by her husband, then her own brother," says Briar.
In September, lawmakers introduced amendments to the Kurdish criminal code to punish domestic violence. Among other things, the draft law would criminalize marital rape and allow bystanders outside the family to press charges for domestic abuse.
Muslim preachers and members of parliament, however, argued that the bill was a ploy to weaken religion and the Kurdish family. Jalal Pareshan, a member of the ruling Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP), claimed that Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and even the Yezidi religious minority all "condemn" wives who "refuse to fulfill their husbands' rights."
The draft was eventually withdrawn.
"Nothing in the law was against Islam, nothing in the law was against religion," Chomani says. "You know why they were able [to stop it]? Because of social media, especially Facebook."
Conservative activists succeeded there, he says, by painting the law as a conspiracy by "feminists," especially Deputy Prime Minister Qubad Talabani's American wife Sherri Kraham.
Yahya Nawzar Jaf also credits social media campaigns for stopping the amendments, which he calls a foreign import that "contradicts our values." He argues that the Kurdish law on domestic violence did not have any "legal gap" that required fixing.
And then there's the bill against LGBT activism, which 76 members of parliament proposed in September. (The Iraqi Kurdish parliament has 111 members in total.) The law would punish "promoting homosexuality" with a year's imprisonment or a 5 million dinar ($3,430) fine. Media outlets and nonprofit organizations guilty of the same could be shut down for a month. Human Rights Watch called it an "odious" proposal that "comes amid a heightened crackdown on free assembly and expression."
Chomani attributes this bill to pressure from social media as well.
The ruling Kurdistan Democratic Party and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), according to Chomani, have "completely cracked down on dissent." (That includes sympathizers with the women's guerrilla movement in Turkey and Syria.) Online religious and social campaigns are some of the few ways people can organize outside the two parties.
"The more you get attention, the more you get likes, the more you get shares, the more you get followers—you also become more relevant for the KDP and PUK to want to deal with you," he says.
Despite the success that online activists have had at pushing back against so-called immorality, Yahya Nawzar Jaf takes an ambivalent view toward the internet.
"It plays a negative role, weakening social values, because social media sites are not of our making, and we do not administer them," he says. "For example, Facebook has harsh penalties for those who say even one bad word about homosexuals!"
He argues that social networks allow some freedom "on the margins" for conservatives to raise awareness of their cause.
Yet the modern internet may give conservatives some distinct advantages.
Social media has lowered the barrier to entry for political activism. While street protests are the realm of desperate youth and committed left-wing ideologues, online campaigns are open to anyone—like, say, bourgeois parents.
Szanto compares older Kurdish conservatives to the "Parent-Teacher-Association crowd" in America. Older people, she says, are "just as screen-addicted as the rest of us."
"Because they are middle class, and because they tend to be a more cohesive group, they tend to be better organized," Szanto argues. "In many ways, they have more practical demands that can be addressed."
In other words, politicians find it easier to shut down a concert or table a specific bill than to satisfy a leaderless movement for systemic change.
Identity politics, cancel culture, and extremely online old people have become a force to be reckoned with all around the world. That's as true in America as it is in Kurdistan.
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No interference in other countries. Remember your principles.
Islamist politics had once been all the rage in the Middle East. Beginning in the late 1970s, a wave of religion-based movements swept through the region, successfully installing an Islamic republic in Iran,
Which ran parallel to the conservative Christian Coalition anti-liberty movement in the USA. Luckily our secular minded liberal authors of the Constitution put up a barrier between church and state or the Christo-Fascists would have turned the US into a Christian Republic by now.
1. Some conservatives in the US are anti-freedom. Most aren't Christian, just fans of "religion". See here, starting at 19:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnbHal6vL4o
2. The Founders were almost all either Christian or "religious" (Theistic Rationalists). They wanted a separation of Church and State primarily because the States were all different denominations and it wouldn't have worked either way. And yes, that was a good thing, in that the Church would no longer be polluted by being tied to the "necessary or intolerable evil" of the State.
3. There are some who claim Christianity (most aren't, but again, watch the video) who want to force their version of morality on others. That's not what most actual Christians believe and certainly not what Christ taught, in fact he taught the opposite!
Shrike doesn’t like that Christians are generally against raping small children.
They also put up a barrier to distributing hardcore child pornography, shreek.
Love when reason uses the language of the left to demean the right.
The single biggest monoculture right now in America is the left. See the bake the cake, make gay website laws in places like Colorado. Meanwhile conservatives are arguing for anyone being able to practice their beliefs. Twitter still has rules against deadnaming, same with Facebook. The left are more akin to the Muslim monoculture authorities. Because that is an authoritarian stance. The left wants to federalize all laws creating a single fork of rules. California wants their farming and carbon rules applied nationally. Etc. The right is more federalist wanting states rights, the abilities for cultures to decide their rules. See Dobbs.
When Reason uses the language of the left, they are conceding arguments to them.
Way to defend murderous Muslims, dude.
Bruh, stop being a colonialist.
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Love when reason uses the language of the left to demean the right.
What language?
The Middle Eastern Islamo-Fascists are very conservative. Republicans in the US are very conservative. Embrace your conservative brethren, JesseAZ.
You do know that in the Dobbs decision the majority ruled that the Right to Autonomy of 'Roe' could be used to justify drug use and prostitution, right?
Yeah, you conservatives are really into liberty? Only if it meets your moral conditions.
That is CONSERVATIVE - just like Islamist Fascists like it.
He's saying that Reason has no right to demean those poor Muslim conservatives who are enforcing their religious morality at gunpoint.
That's a pretty despicable attitude, but not surprising. His hatred of the left is so strong he'll defend Muslim conservatives doing genital mutilation in one breath, and in the next attack the American left for doing the same thing.
No principles. No morality. Just hate.
"He’s saying that Reason has no right to demean those poor Muslim conservatives who are enforcing their religious morality at gunpoint."
No he wasn't.
He was pointing out that the American establishment that Reason runs cover for, pulls exactly the same stunts, and there's a lot of hypocrisy at the magazine in pointing out the mote in the Kurd's eye while pretending the beam in America's doesn't exist.
The pedophile you're white knighting for, and tag teaming with, was doing the exact same thing but blaming American conservatives from forty years ago instead.
Of course your knew all this, but you saw Jesse's name and wanted to troll.
Dude…
I think he's saying that calling this "cancel culture" is stupid and I kind of agree. It's old fashioned religious conservatism. Cancel culture, in my mind, is more of a modern phenomenon targeted at specific individuals who make certain statements deemed beyond the pale.
Cancel culture is a means. It's a combination of mob justice and heckler's veto used to browbeat people in authority to change their minds. Doesn't matter if it's progressive college kids getting Jordan Peterson canceled or conservative religious people getting a concert canceled like in the article.
The means and end are the same. And it's not even a new phenomenon. Just a new name.
I think he’s saying that calling this “cancel culture” is stupid and I kind of agree.
I disagree. Look at his first sentence.
"Love when reason uses the language of the left to demean the right."
He felt personally demeaned by the title and had an emotional reaction. I doubt he even read the article.
Bruh, you are only into liberty when it allows you to silence people you disagree with and fuck children.
The Middle Eastern Islamo-Fascists enjoy child rape. You enjoy child rape. Embrace your child-raping brethren, shreek.
Left wing cancel culture does not exist, or is well intended, any affirmative steps to oppose it violates free speech, etc., but the social left libertarian punditry is obsessed with “right wing” cancel culture, even if they have to go to a Muslim dominated society to find it.
The single biggest monoculture right now in America is the left.
Jesse knows this because every single article he reads describes The Left as a monoculture. Because he only consumes media in the right-wing echo chamber.
It is just as bad in the left-wing echo chamber. There, many of them believe that The Right is a monoculture full of goose-stepping fascists who want to throw leftists in jail for not reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.
If Jesse ever stepped out of his echo chamber and observed the world for what it really is, rather than what right-wing propagandists try to tell him that it is, then he might understand this.
Why would he be interested in understanding? That's called sympathizing with the enemy. That's why he's so full of hate towards anyone who dares to understand anything but his echo chamber. He's a political warrior out to destroy the enemy. That leaves no room for understanding.
Oh I know. He is a part of the post-modern right. He understands that narratives have the power to create reality. If he can create enough dishonest memes and disingenuous narratives to push an idea, such as, say, the 2020 election was rigged and stolen, or that transgendered people are child molesters, or that the FBI is throwing parents in jail for merely protesting at school board meetings, and if enough people believe that idea, and vote on the basis of that idea being true, then for all intents and purposes, the idea *becomes* reality. It doesn't matter what actually happened to the ballots or what transgendered people actually do. What matters is what the majority of "right-thinking" people (Team Red voters) believe and vote on. So he is going to try to continue to *create* reality that benefits his tribe by pushing every dishonest argument that he can.
What do you think of Jordan Peterson?
He is very engaging on the surface.
I have not given him much consideration. If I have nothing better to do I might listen to some of his lectures.
Where would you find the time to educate yourself when you're busy finding articles praising pedophilia or dark brandon?
It isn’t a surprise to see the child molester, the groomer and the drunk bonding over their leftism, is it?
I listened to his book "12 Rules for Life" on audiobook. It was pretty good. I don't agree with him (or anyone) on everything, but he makes really good points from time to time.
You wouldn’t like him much, shreek. He has very harsh things to say about pedophiles and doesn’t support chemical castration for 7 year olds.
In between your career as a gourmet master chef and then your second career as a master programmer who had to ask the Glibertarians to teach him how to format text in HTML, did you by any chance for Cinemark? Because you are professional projector.
I know this because I’m not a retard jeff. Sorry that removes you sarc and shrike from the discussion.
Funny how all 3 of you have given up on even a premise of an argument. Just raging leftists. Lol.
Mister Hate is accusing others of rage. So cute.
His argument is hilarious for its absurdity. Just abject retardation. It's like pretending every farm journal you read is some right-wing framing of farming monoculture and that the framing is the reason for corn and soybean fields being farmed the way they are. It's not even wrong. Like the opposition Elon Musk buying Twitter isn't from a culture of monoculturists worried that someone setting up a massive pasture of weeds and wildflowers will hurt their yields, but because of evil right-wing farm journalists who don't want their narrative about farming disrupted.
Oh yeah? Welll whut about Aleppo, huh? huh? Answer me that!
It’s interesting that you are trying to deny the existence of a monoculture on the left when you’re usually explaining why it (and the progress they are trying to drag us yokels to) is a good thing.
Robby has done some great reporting in the past about this topic.
Oh, it's *conservative cancel culture* all of a sudden?
Yes, as opposed to progressive cancel culture. The split is about 60/40 progressive. As a liberal I can see both sides engage in it.
I was cancelled in one group by progressives for my disdain of Islamo-Fascists and the rancid ideology of Islam in particular.
I support Hitchens and Sam Harris. Religion poisons everything and there is no carve out for the "Mother Lode of Bad Ideas".
There is no Progressive cancel culture - it's just the consequences of speech, right? No one has to like what you say.
????
I just accused the left of 60% of all cancel culture. I admit it is an educated guess. Maybe 70%.
When what you say disagrees with the voices in their heads, they will keep arguing against the voices in their heads. If you continue to disagree they'll call you delusional, and never see the irony.
Your pal is also a pedophile. So that makes him particularly unpopular, to everyone but you and the other leftists here.
Hilariously, back before sarcasmic turned into a full-time Democratic shill and troll after Trump broke what was left of his alcohol-ravaged brain, he used to join us in kicking shreek around, but the last year or so he's turned into his little guard poodle. It's kind cute in its way.
The biggest disconnect I see is that "the" leftandright are really two color blotches inside a circular Venn Diagram labeled Altruists. Each decries the other as hypocritical and "not really" whatever it is that's in vogue this minute...
Kinda like how you declare anyone who isn't a psychotic Marxist death cultist like you "not really" a libertarian, you worthless decrepit old obsolete sack of shit? Like that, cunt?
So which religion was it that made you post dark web links to hardcore child pornography at Reason.com shreek?
Mmmmm, taste the bigotry.
"The right is racist, they want to ban all muslims!"
Also:
"Everything bad done by Muslims is an indictment of the right!"
The logic of intersectionality is fascinating.
JOSHUA: The only winning move is not to play.
That is excellent advice when dealing with all forms of Post-Modernists and their fellow travelers.
That, and a punch in the mouth.
The intervening decades have clearly proved JOSHUA incorrect. The only winning move is to launch all the nukes.
and start voting in September.
Why is it always one of two things:
1. Cancel culture doesn't exist, it's just the consequences of speech.
2. Evil conservatives are canceling the Left.
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Social media has lowered the barrier to entry for political activism. While street protests are the realm of desperate youth and committed left-wing ideologues, online campaigns are open to anyone—like, say, bourgeois parents.
I'm going to phrase this as a question because I don't know this guy and I'm not ready to make an accusation. Does anyone use the word bourgeois who isn't a devout Marxist? The only exceptions I can think of people who are mocking or commenting on Marxists, but that's not what the word is doing there.
That's a really weird formulation he has there. It seems to implicitly suggest that political activism by "bourgeois parents" is somehow less legitimate than that of "desperate youth and committed left-wing ideologues". Of course, it's the "bourgeois parents" who pay for the system.
Does anyone use the word bourgeois who isn’t a devout Marxist?
Yeah. Laissez-faire classical liberals, otherwise known as libertarians. The people you call leftists because they disagree with Republicans on economic matters (they disagree with Democrats as well but that doesn't matter since anyone who disagrees with one side supports the other, even if they don't).
Libertarians only use it when talking about Marxist - who uniformly don't seem to understand that they're the bourgeoisie they rail against.
That’s not at all true. Look up the economist Deirdre N. McCloskey. His books are next on my audiobook list.
Edit: I'm currently listening to The Road to Serfdom. Tried to read it but it's too dense.
Tried to read it but it’s too dense.
That explains a lot about you.
Once again Bill shows off his firm belief that while growing old may be mandatory, growing up is not.
……. And the progression of his alcoholism.
Oh, shit. I forgot I took you off mute because I mistakenly thought you may have had something intelligent to say, but I was of course wrong.
More stories about your mute button please.
You’ve been hiding from me since you were talking big shit last week about kicking my ass. Which is probably best for you.
I will check her out, but I have not, in 14 years of coming here, ever seen someone in the blogs, articles, or comments use it in a non-mocking or at least tongue-in-cheek way.
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They come by it honestly. So was Marx, who was the son of a modestly wealthy lawyer and whose wife was from a down on their luck aristocratic family.
“Does anyone use the word bourgeois who isn’t a devout Marxist? ”
Let me answer that one with another question: You know who else used the word “bourgeois” as a pejorative term?
Conservative Cancel Culture Comes to Kurdistan
The fact that Kabul was dominated by a regime that tears down historical statues, forcibly covers women's faces, and advocates for the sexual mutilation children; until it was liberated by the Taliban, never gets old.
Suddenly cosmos realize that those "liberty-loving" Kurds fighting for their existence are actually ethnonationalists who might not be so interested in the social hedonism of the western left.
Wait til they find out how MAGA the average Ukrainian is.
love it you had to goto fucking Kurdistan for the bowfsidez.
In other words, right-wing cancel culture has come to Kurdistan.
This is a very, very interesting way of spinning Muslim countries being Muslim.
You do know that poll after poll of British Muslim immigrants show that some ~90% think that not only is homosexuality wrong, but ~50% think that it should be a crime.
Jesus, the more I think about this, it kind of pisses me off. Has everyone under the age of 40 never taken a history class or know anything about the world? Would you like me to show you pictures of Iranian street life in 1978, then show you pictures of it in 1979?
some of them maybe saw Argo?
Don't care. It's their world and for them to fight out. Not my concern.
Hoo boy, there is a lot to unpack here.
Hoo boy, there is a lot to unpack here..cc
I think you’re picturing a lost bag full of your own clothes, toiletries, and other luggage rather than just an empty bag that says ‘Vera Bradley’ on the outside:
Matthew Petti is a 2022-2023 Fulbright fellow.
Yeah. No mention of red hats or Canadian truckers. Dissing on conservatives yet again.
Hey tough guy. When are you coming to kick my ass?
Hijab protests have been going on since 1979.
Whether Kurdistan is an autonomous self-governing region or a "de facto" nation state it's still an oppressive theocracy with almost no chance of ever emerging from 629 AD. Like the rest of the Middle East the US government would be wise to leave them strictly alone except to defend ourselves if they attack us. But of course the US government has never been wise and is unlikely to ever become wise.
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Well there shouldn't be any.....wait a minute Kurdistan?
Kurdistan?
Who fucking cares? How many Kurdish citizens read this site?
Collective vs. individual concepts of liberty.
Reason comparing Government Repression to Cancel culture is ridiculous. If you think that way the god hating atheist Communist are the biggest cancel culture cancel-ist of all time. See Stalin and Mao.
sounds like they don't like cultural marxism either. Hopefully they keep the woke degeneracy garbage from destroying their societies. Traditional norms exist because they work. Marriage, no out of wedlock births, people staying in their lanes and not pushing to change rules that were created over hundreds of years because they work. Look what occurred in Europe and the US when we lost our morals.
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