Russia Bans All Public Pro-LGBT Speech
Taking “Don’t Say Gay” to the next level.

In an example of further cultural backsliding and scapegoating of gay and trans folks in Russia, President Vladimir Putin has signed a bill making it illegal to speak out positively about nonheterosexual relationships in the country.
The bill, signed Monday, expands an anti-"propaganda" law passed in 2013 that forbids discussing LGBT issues around minors. Now, according to CNN, Russia has outlawed any sort of public discussion, even among adults, that promotes LGBT relationships as normal or praises them. The law also bans any positive references to gender transitions.
The ban comes with fines that can surpass $6,000 for what the country now classifies as "LGBT propaganda" and can increase to more than $3,000 for participating in pro-LGBT demonstrations. Additionally, any organization that breaks the law can face a fine of $64,000 or more.
One might think Russia might have bigger problems to focus on, given its struggle to successfully "reclaim" Ukraine in its invasion. The latest news has Putin acknowledging that it's going to be a "long process." But he also, as is typical, is attempting to blame the West for his country's behavior for treating Russia like "a second-class citizen that has no right to exist at all."
The last decade has seen a painful pulling back of LGBT acceptance in Russia as the country's nationalist populism has turned against its own citizens. In 2014, not long after that first anti-gay law passed in Russia, Cathy Young wrote for Reason about Russia's return to authoritarianism and aggression as Putin ascended back into power in 2012. As Young explained then, these laws are part and parcel of an escalation of what Putin and his allies see as their rejection "Western" values:
In an insightful recent column on Grani.ru, one of Russia's newly banned websites, the veteran dissident Alexander Skobov argued that the present conflict between Russia and the West should be seen as a "clash of systems." "The essential difference between them lies in who has 'primacy': the individual or the state, society or the 'elite'?" Skobov wrote. "The conflict over this issue is not between civilizations but within each of them. Every state seeks to dominate the individual; every elite seeks to dominate society. But some countries have succeeded at developing a set of institutions that limit the power of the state and the elite over the individual and society, while others have not."
Those mediating institutions may be highly imperfect in today's liberal capitalist democracies; but Russian power unquestionably exerts a pull in the opposite direction.
Putin and Russia's aggressive rejection of individual freedom here should serve as a useful reminder that anti-LGBT panics are bad for liberty. And we're seeing similar authoritarian grumbling in China, where government officials are trying to blame drag queens and "effeminate" men for resistance by younger citizens to the heavy workloads demanded of them. As was the case with Russia, China had been growing more and more comfortable with LGBT folks, only for the government to start pulling back again, ramping up censorship on gay and trans issues.
This repression comes as conservative lawmakers here in the United States are proposing laws that would ban children from attending drag shows, even going so far as to attempt to make it a felony, even if the parent is present.
Russia and China's oppressive treatment of LGBT citizens are intended to turn their own people into enemies in the eyes of the public. Don't let self-serving politicians get away with that behavior here—not if you value your own freedom too.
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Yet the disordered are fine banning/cancelling anti gay speech.
Why do you think people, governments are all about banning, cancelling speech?
It should be obvious to all that free speech demonstrates refuting misinformation and never refuting truth. So truth will always win.
That’s what these people DON’T want, truth to win. Corrupt people, government, lobbyists need to coerce people with propaganda and censorship.
With his censorship and "Bie Lie" technique, your buddy Joseph Goebbels sure didn't want truth to win.
Fuck Off, Nazi!
“ A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a gross distortion or misrepresentation of the truth, used especially as a propaganda technique.[1][2] The German expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his book Mein Kampf (1925), to describe the use of a lie so colossal that no one would believe that someone “could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.” Hitler claimed that the technique had been used by Jews to blame Germany’s loss in World War I on German general Erich Ludendorff, who was a prominent nationalist political leader in the Weimar Republic.”
I’ve demonstrated many times how Jews and Nazis behave similarly.
Jews holiest prayer, the Kol Nidre is clearly a plan to lie to other people.
Jews claim ownership of the Freemasons satanic secret society, Nazis the similar Thule society. Secrets require lies and lies require secrets.
Jews call themselves the chosen people to entitle themselves, Nazis the master race.
Ask any Palestinian what it’s like living in their ancestral homes now under Jewish occupation.
It was the Jew Edward bernays who created modern propaganda with his uncle Sigmund Freud before the First World War.
I’ve said many times that I’m no fan of Nazis for these reasons among others .
There’s also the fact that Jews are behind the banning, censorship and criminalization of all evidence that refutes the lies of the holocaust in every nation where it allegedly occurred.
Tell me that doesn’t demonstrate “the big lie”.
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For the record, Deborah Lipstadt does not favor banning Holocaust Denier David Irving from exercising his right to free expression. And Aryeh Neier defended the free speech rights of Neo-Nazis in Skokie, IL, presumably including Holocaust Deniers. Both Lipstadt and Neier are Jewish.
Fuck Off, Nazi!
Defending free speech was simply Neier’s job at the ACLU.
What’s your point? That a Jew deserves kudos for simply doing his job. Hahaha
Irving was a holocaust denier who sued Penguin for libel for publishing Lipstadt’s book. He only had her claims to work with and not all his evidence for refuting the holocaust.
Irving presented letters in evidence which he understandably took to be literal like, “ deporting Jews” but the the judge simply accepted the defendants claims that they were euphemisms, and meant “killing Jews”.
That’s how Lipstadt won.
Funny how people will say anything when facing torture, ruin and incarceration.
I don’t blame Irving for recanting the truth in later years when facing that. Hell that’s what the Jewish censorship, banning and criminalization advocates expect to result from their actions.
The judge actually concluded that Lipstadt had committed libel on two of Irving’s charges but still decided to dismiss them.
You called the Nazis "bogeymen," which means you deny their threat and their evil.
Fuck Off, Nazi!
Bogeyman “ is a type of mythic creature used by adults to frighten children into good behavior.”
I call the Nazis bogeyman because they are the main character in the mythical story of the holocaust which is used to frighten brainwashed people into perceiving Jews as the poor perpetual victims who can do no wrong when they are anything but.
Jews have a long history of using this technique making various nations into bogeyman and themselves the victims to beg for money.
It is a fact that Jews have claimed in ads in various newspapers that they are experiencing a holocaust in various nations of six million Jews no less than 166 times between 1900 and 1945.
Jews themselves use this bogeyman story like the lying wastes of skin who fake cancer on go fund me pages.
Hahaha
So you deny the Nazi are an evil threat. What I said.
That's "Nazis" plural, as opposed to the singular when I tell you to:
Fuck Off, Nazi!
Nazis were less evil than Jews have been irrefutably demonstrated to be today.
The holocaust is a lie, exactly the same as the previous 166 holocausts claimed by Jews were.
Gibberish! All gibberish! Hitler expounded upon "The Big Lie" because he and Goebbels practiced it!
The Nazis were so damned self-deluded, they believed the Welteischlehre, The World Ice Theory, the notion that the Earth, the Moon, the Planets, and stars are all made of ice! And that the Aryans were Ice Giants who once ruled over lesser "mud races."
That's the falling star onto which you've hitched your wagon! Have fun falling into the abyss of insanity!
And Fuck Off, Nazi!
You have never refuted anything that I have said.
Denying what I’ve said without refuting it IS gibberish. That’s all you’ve done.
This “disordered” one doesn’t favor banning your speech or the speech of any other bigot.
I love your words on display for the whole world to behold for their absurdity.
Fuck Off, Nazi!
While I’m enjoying laughing at you choke when I refute you and you can’t refute me, it’s more than a little entertaining recognizing that you’re oblivious to the fact that your useful idiot trolling affords me the opportunity to demonstrate more facts that I might not have done otherwise.
Fill your boots dipshit.
You and Rev. Artie have this obsession with choking your opponents on your *ahem!* Viewpoints. Maybe you two should get a room and choke on each others' *Ahem!* viewpoints. And don't forget to make eye contact!
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Hahaha.
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Is "Fuck Joe Biden" gay speech?
Depends who is speaking, I suppose.
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Conservatives openly admire Putin's Russia. It really is amazing.
In democratic America we ban anti-LGBT speach.
Exactly what can they not say? Who is banning them? Certainly not the government and big Tech like the previous Twitter like they did to conservatives as Musk proved.
It would be interesting to know, because all I hear them talking about is LBGTQ+++++++++++++++++++++
Enlighten us all, or I will think you are a liar!
Just because you post something does not make it true.
Stupid beyond belief. Might as well try and argue, Liberals admire Biden's America. Or, Patriots of Russia admire Putin's Russia. It's really amazing.
You're responding to someone who distributes child pornography.
Progressives openly admire Chávez's Venezuela . It really is amazing.
Who's statement is true?
So all progressives admire Chavez? Huh? Whoever told you that Bob, is a liar.
That’s right, they all admire Che.
Found one.
The first one is true. Yours is a lie. No progressive supports or supported Chavez. You should really get with the program, because the Chavez supporters were your chums in fancy dress.
"Love Always Wins" doesn't mean your sick fetishes, shriek, although your lefty boos are certainly working overtime to change that.
And Shrike openly admires America, where failing to bake the cake, or misgendering gets you dragged through the courts too.
Maybe stop being a fascist in America, Buttplug, before you start whining about Russia.
You openly posted dark web links to hardcore child pornography and got your original Sarah Palin's Buttplug account banned, shreek. It really is amazing you aren't in jail, pedophile.
Taking “Don’t Say Gay” to the next level
You mean the actual level of forbidding people from saying gay? Meaning the previous application of "Don't Say Gay" was no-shit propaganda, right?
No shit. Makes all of scotts previous columns look purely retarded.
This isn’t even the level of “don’t say gay.” You can still say “gay.” You can say “gay is bad.” You just can’t say “gay is good.”
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1. This *should* jolt some sense into those who claimed Florida's law was the worst legislation ever. But I see no sign of comparing the two: one bans pro-gay indoctrination for kindergartners, the other bans all pro-gay speech even among adults.
2. It should also jolt some common sense into the pro-gay indoctrination crowd that leaders sometimes have to look back and see if they still have any followers. You had a lot of support for not criminalizing gay behavior and government-licenses for gay marriage, and began losing it when you pushed that into encouraging gender mutilation among children.
Pro gay "indoctrination"? Good grief that's absurd.
Fuck yourself instead of children, groomer.
I don't understand this level of retarded self-retardation and factual/historical denial. Like no one's ever been deceived by a homosexual, sexually or not, or even just more broadly sexually in all of human history? The idea that there isn't, never has, and never possibly could be pro-gay indoctrination is far more absurd than the notion that it exists. To the point that it's somewhere between an absurd 'fainting couch'/"Methinks the lady doth protest too much" theatrical misconception and a straight up Jim Jones-style "Those sins do not stain the souls of the righteous" psychosis.
Either way, it's just plainly and obviously retarded.
Russia's law started as one that only banned "indoctrination of minors" as well.
This is a different law you stupid lying sack of faggot cocksucking shit.
You turn me on, dude. I wanna lick your asshole so badly.
Good.
No surprise that a degenerate like Shackford is upset about this!
Is there something you want to tell us from your BDSM dungeon , Frank? We'll wait for you to take off your gimp mask. 🙂
"Let's have a war! Give guns to the queers!"—Lee Ving
it can start in New Jersey!
Is that why New Jerseyans often drive in reverse on the Turnpike off-ramps?
I mean we did that when I lived there, but this time was continuing the Ving lyrics
I may have misjudged you. Quoting Lee Ving is a heart melter.
Makes me wonder what you judged me to be before.
At the Gay Bar, Gay Bar, Gay Bar? 🙂
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Imagine, for a moment, if Russia were the center of the internet universe, and Silicon Valley was a suburb of Moscow.
Now there is a compelling thought experiment
The Comrade In The High Kremnik was excellent on Amazon
That's Putin's comic book plan.
I'm confused. You mean, "again", after 2016, right?
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This repression comes as conservative lawmakers here in the United States are proposing laws that would ban children from attending drag shows, even going so far as to attempt to make it a felony, even if the parent is present.
So some States' laws regarding children at drag shows are equal to Russia and China wanting to oppress, if not kill, all gay people in their respective countries?
I sometimes wonder what these idiots would have thought of strip club reading hours. Probably screaming about the patriarchy disrespecting agency-less women. Unless the strippers were trannies. Because only men who pretend to be women have agency, not biological women.
ENB would support.
Maybe , in hindsight, having grade schoolers put dollar bills into a drag queen's lingerie was not the best look?
Hundos would have been better.
Children should be protected from what they cannot understand. No previous generations tried to indoctrinate kids in sex at young and tender ages, and we all turned out okay.
Does a 5 or 6 year old need to know all about sex? NO
I've known my oldest nephew from when he was in kindergarten, and the two youngest their whole lives. That me and my husband were a couple, same as their dad and mom were a couple, same as their grandparents were a couple (and so-on) was something very easily explained and didn't involve teaching about sex.
If you can't manage the same? That's on you, not gay people.
+100
Well put and well played!
Hey look, the bootlicking Nazi faggot agrees with the other bootlicking Nazi faggot about his retarded bootlicking Nazi faggot non-sequitur!
Stop it, man. You're killing me. Never been so turned on
Fuck Off, Hatchet Man, a.k.a. Lettuce-Head! Don't think I don't see the pattern in your shitposting!
And nothing in Florida's law prevents people from mentioning that John and Bob are "living together" or even "married".
What it prohibits is teaching about sexuality in K-3.
The bootlicking Nazi faggot knows that, he's just a lying piece of shit bootlicking Nazi faggot.
Showing cartoon depictions of an underage faggot boy sucking the cock of a grown ass faggot man to grade school children isn't anything remotely like what you've just described, which is also, of course, a fabrication from the fevered imaginings of your AIDS-riddled faggot brain. But good attempt, faggot. It's a good thing you don't actually have nephews to molest and rape.
If you can’t manage the same? That’s on you, not gay people.
You do realize you just saying "Not my problem." doesn't actually make it not your problem, right? I've got news for you, your nephews have known you are not a couple the same as their mom and dad, the same as their grandparents, their whole lives, without explanation. Their parents, their grandparents, may all put on an act that homosexuals and heterosexuals are the same but they cannot possibly portray perfect equality between the two and when it comes to the obvious inequalities, well, those really aren't their problems.
You sure are making this your problem. And as usual, using so many words to say so little.
Good idea.
You'll be saying that if Putin ever found out about your crush on him!
'Course, you won't be saying anything long when Putin's brain probe finds and scrambles your frontal lobes!
Fuck Off, Dugin Hooligan Putineer!
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Hey, Cuntface.
Hating Putin doesn't mean loving Biden, Dumb Shit!
Fuck Off, Hatchet Boy a.k.a. Lettuce-Head!
https://twitter.com/ACTBrigitte/status/1600554413323849729?t=XknMDj_NxYsVyrJSElFEpA&s=19
Kirk Cameron is being denied story-hour slots by public libraries for his new faith-based kids book.
The same libraries also allow drag queen story hour.
Flashing cock at children is far better than being keen on Jesus for the blue checks.
The former's brave and transgressive, the latter's what the poors and proles are into.
EscherEnigma the bootlicking Nazi faggot was just saying in another thread that drag queen story hour is a strawman.
Funny, you're nowhere to be found when real-life boorlicking Nazis like Rob Misek, Nemo Aequalis, BioBehavioral_View, and Sheldonius Rex show up, yet you call everyone but them "bootlicking Nazi faggots."
I think you're either one of these 4 or you're hiding your crush for them.
Anyway, Fuck Off, Hatchet Boy/Lettuce-Head!
"[Putin] is attempting to blame the West fir country's behavior for treating Russia "like a second class citizen that has no right to exist at all.""
That is awful. How dare Putin steal the LGTB activist's schtick?
That’s a standard Leftist, Marxist, Social Determinist Victimology schtick, so Putin had the LGBTQ+s beat by a minute, as the kids measure time nowadays.
Wait, did LGBT activists steal the 2016 election too?
https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1600522632021032961?t=AUipPrbWGXCvlfcpDC9O2A&s=19
Does this sounds like the United States of America or the Soviet Union?
Embed federal law enforcement at media companies,
pressure media to suppress information critical of government officials,
and have regular meetings between government and media…
in the name of safety.
Words and ideas are dangerous
Notice how they use this sub-heading to implicate DeSantis, his colleagues, and Floridians who had the temerity to slightly moderate emboldened state actors.
Not being able to show 7 year old kids cartoon pictures of a young boy sucking a grown man's cock is basically the same as killing all faggots, didn't you know?
Hey, Cuntface
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1600581595081097233?t=mDcbPdT5ad6iqJ-qP6irzg&s=19
Periodic reminder that the concept of “gender identity” was made up by a pedophile psychopath who experimented with his ideas of gender on kids which led to those kids committing suicide.
[Link]
Oh, weird, I thought it was going to link to Kinsey. Weird how the totally independent movements of LGB and T have the same sorts of heroes at their vanguard, the same sorts of heroes other organizations would be burned to the ground, both literally and metaphorically, for having at their own vanguard.
I can see why Putin has done this. Imagine if Russia was like the soft wimpy western nations that are... currently providing the weapons and support and training that is smashing his "ultra macho no homo" army to bits.
Hahahahahahahahhaha
smashing his “ultra macho no homo” army to bits.
It is my understanding the Russians do not require the COVID vaccine for their soldiers. Coincidence? I am struggling to decide if that is as bad or worse than whatever point Shackford just gurgled about "the next level".
So did those 60,000+ Putineers slaughtered in the last 10 months by Ukrainians die from or with COVID-19?
Did the 30,000 Ukrainian CIA-backed Azov Batallion literal Nazis slaughtered in the last 10 months die from AIDS or with AIDS, bootlicking Nazi faggot?
Dunno. Did you give it to them? 🙂
Fuck Off, Hatchet Boy a.k.a. Lettuce-Head!
Hey look, another bootlicking Nazi faggot who is also a Ukraine-bot NPC. How utterly surprising.
1500 destroyed Russian tanks. 2500 IFVs. Thousands more artillery pieces, transports, engineering vehicles, SAM systems, dozens of helicopters and aircraft. And the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet now working as a submarine. Because Russia was too busy being all macho-not-homo and didn't spend any time or money or effort on learning how to not suck.
Now they cry "waaaaah waaaaah, NATO is against us". Bitches, if you were up against NATO with this incompetent wreck of an army there would have been a victory parade in Red Square six months ago with Putin in a cage.
LOL
100,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers (according to their own defense minister), but this NPC puts full faith and credit in the story our State directed corporate media puts out.
Though we should probably remember that Aussies are only getting highly filtered news in their little covid camps.
(I'm aware that Kiwi = New Zealand. I don't care. Bootlicking wannabe Brit bois can go fuck themselves.)
Hey, Cuntface
Taking “Don’t Say Gay” to the next level
What level would that be past proggy propaganda?
At this point I reflexively reject everything you say even if it sounds otherwise plausible, your just that convincing of a journalist/activist/propagandist.
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How many of you have feelings about something you are too afraid to say out loud in fear of backlash so you keep quiet about it? Be honest.
[Poll]
Public honesty about my political and social views would get me fired. I need to make a living.
And Reason is 100% ok with that
-1. No "I've murdered lots and lots of cats. Some of them were probably cute too." option.
Sounds like the Russian government is at least as bigoted as the Republican Party.
Yes, because banning conversion therapy, misgendering, disrespecting the rainbow flag, and prosecuting those who won't bake the cake is somehow totally different to what Russia is doing.
Or you, although Putin doesn't have a cape to flourish like yourself.
Carry on, Klinger-sky!
The ban comes with fines that can surpass $6,000 for what the country now classifies as "LGBT propaganda"
Britney Griner's lawyer is going to need a second job.
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The last time pussies rioted, they nearly burned down Portland.
https://twitter.com/kitten_beloved/status/1600532870346715137?t=HpDiFyIrLA-vPYCpEQStAQ&s=19
So the republicans were right about the slippery slope wrt gay rights, seems pretty obvious now
What I want to understand is, why
Why wasn't it possible to let gay people out of the closet and keep whatever this is inside
When did it become mandatory to celebrate every fetish
[Link in thread]
Because the movement tossed any principled pro-gay beliefs about expanding norms to include them and replaced them with destroying cultural norms and mores. Once you're on the post modernist train there is nowhere to slow down or stop prior to complete destruction of all society.
The never "replaced" anything, they just managed to dupe retards like you until it was too late to stop them. You could have read any of their literature and internal documents, or hell just showed up to one of their meetings or gone to a fucking college campus. But instead you saw what you wanted to see.
Let's link up offline?
And this is different from laws against hate speech in the EU because...
...fuck you that’s why.
AND Smut Peddlers?! Swoon
If you are so upset, go to Russia and protest. I am sure Putin will support you!
Meanwhile Zelensky just banned the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine which has millions of members. Pretty sure Scott will be covering that story tomorrow.
Christians are the problem. The bolshies and degenerates have always had a problem with Christians. Romanian peasant revolution...look who was exterminated.
Which Romanian Peasant's Revolution? 1907 or 1989?
FYI, Romanian Communist Dictator Nicolai Ceauşescu didn't like LGBTQ+s either and made pre-existing anti-LGBTQ+ laws even stricter.
I thank the Romanian people every Christmas for having captured Nicolai and Elena Ceauşescu on December 25th, 1989, giving them a speedy public trial they never gave anyone else, followed by an even speedier public execution by firing squad on worldwide TV. Sic Semper Tyrannis!
Faggotry was considered a western extravagance in all Marxist societies up until the Frankfurters invented cultural Marxism as a tool for destroying western society and embraced it as a temporary necessity. They did a good enough job at it that they produced 3 generations of brainless bootlicking Nazi faggots like yourself.
Hey, Cuntface
Soooo...do you enjoy extravagance? You sure talk a lot about it.
Fuck Off, Hatchet Boy a.k.a. Lettuce-Head!
The Russian orthodox church was banned in Ukraine months ago.
What Zelensky did recently was ban the Ukrainian orthodox church because they hadn't cut ties with the Russian church.
This is in addition to banning all other political parties, Russian language literature, and any speech that doesn't reflect the will of Zelensky/globalists
The Russian Orthodox Church is a State-sponsored tentacle of Putin's regime. Why should Ukrainians want that ugly thing operating in their midst?
The Russian Orthodox church predates the USSR or current Russian state by about half a millennium and was founded in Kiev, where the St. Andrew's Church memorializes its founding you historically illiterate stupid piece of shit bootlicking Nazi faggot. The millions of Ukrainian orthodox Christians probably want that in their midst since it is the historic and lineal religion of their homeland their ancestors and they don't buy into your Marxist year-zero bullshit, bootlicking Nazi faggot. Hope that helps to clear up some of your pathetic ignorance you stupid bootlicking Nazi faggot bitch.
Cum in my mouth or asshole?
It's still a State-Sponsored tentacle of Putin, no different than The German-American Bund was a Nazi tentacle in WWII or the Rosenberg's and Alger Hiss were Soviet tentacles in The Cold War.
Come back to me about religious freedom when there's no genocidal war against Ukrainians.
Fuck Off, Hatchet Boy a.k.a. Lettuce-Head!
Because of this crazy thing called freedom that libertarians are supposed to care about- the government shouldn't forbid people from following their religion, even if they hates the religion for a good reason.
So freedom means having a group actively working for your destruction in your midst? Why not have Nazi or Soviet spy cells in your midst too?
If I cannot lawfully my 12-year-old son to a strip-club (or a brothel), even if I stay with him the whole time, that is comparable to a ban on supporting heterosexuality?
It takes don't say straight to a whole new level.
For decades the gay community said "we are just like you, want the same things..marriage, family, we go to church, we are not promiscuous, want to raise kids morally, we are not pedos or groomers"...we just want to be accepted and move on.
Reality, pride, pride, pride. flags, days, forced celebrations of a sexual preference. "look at us" we want attention...
Now the trannies..a group which is not really part of the gay community pushing sexual mutilation and chemical poisoning of our kids. Non-binary, multi gender..basically denial of evolution. There are men and there are women.
The gay community has been accepted in society but they need to ditch the degenerate fellow travelers including this obsession with mutilating kids.
We dont claim them as our own, if that helps
Sadly the activists that grab the mic and speak for you do.
And sadly, there is nothing we can do about it. Our organizations have been taken over and destroyed.
Most gays and lesbians these days just hang out with a mix of gay and straight friends instead of special organizations. For dating, we use online apps. The social, political, and sports organizations we built are gone, destroyed, history.
"The social, political, and sports organizations we built are gone, destroyed, history."
Welcome to the club. Here's your privilege card.
They skinsuit every legitimate organization and turn it into an instrument for power.
The gay community can do nothing about this. There are no "gay organizations" anymore, they have been destroyed and have all been taken over by LGBT-whatever activists and progressives. Gays don't have the political power to ditch these parasites.
It's arguably a false 'both sides' narrative. Political illusions all the way down. Even just going through Bill Falcon's nominal checklist and assuming that every last American is homosexual, you wind up with numbers that are on par with the number of genuine intersex individuals in any given population.
Assumed gay: 100%
Married: 20% (generous) culled from above.
Stable: 17% (generous) culled from above.
Kids: 3% culled from above.
Churchgoing: 0.1% culled from above.
So, if we had 330M gay Americans, it gets whittled down to less than 450,000 people, roughly twice the lower number of no-shit, "my chromosomes don't match male or female of any species and I was born sterile" intersex people on nominal criteria and that's without getting into the real 'rubber-meets-the road' questions like "Do you think a cake decorator has a right to discriminate against you or your children because of your relationship?"
Both social conservative homosexuals and troon idiots are roughly the same-sized ticks riding on the progressive shaggy dog political movement.
I have no idea what your "calculation" is supposed to show. Probably about 30-40% of gays and lesbians are conservative, and there are millions of homosexuals in the US. On the other hand, probably the majority of people in "LGBTQIA+" organizations are neither gay nor lesbian.
And neither gays nor lesbians are "riding on the progressive political movement". Progressives have done nothing for us: they didn't give us gay marriage, they didn't give us decriminalization, they did shit for us other than taking credit for things they didn't do.
Forget it. He's talking gibberish. Like the shaggy dog on your leg, when he lays into your leg, it's best to just let him finish.
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You're a liar, Scott. Curriculum choices for schools have nothing to do with free speech.
As if anyone should believe CNN. Reason references a CNN link, and in the link I got CNN referencing themselves 4 links deep before I gave up. Being that the US government and their friends in the US media have already been caught making shit up to start a fucking war between US and Russia, I’m calling bullshit on this “Russia Bans All Public Pro-LGBT Speech” claim.
This repression comes as conservative lawmakers here in the United States are proposing laws that would ban children from attending drag shows, even going so far as to attempt to make it a felony, even if the parent is present.
Although I do note that Reason staff writers believe children should be allowed at drag shows. Nice job, assholes.
As if anyone should believe CNN. Reason references a CNN link, and in the link I got CNN referencing themselves 4 links deep before I gave up. Being that the US government and their friends in the US media have already been caught making shit up to start a fucking war between US and Russia, I’m calling bullshit on this “Russia Bans All Public Pro-LGBT Speech” claim.
Reading through the links get on CNN, it seems like a deliberate attempt to conflate a foreign propaganda law as an anti-LGBT law. That is, they quote "Under the new law, individuals can be fined up to 400,000 rubles ($6,370) for “LGBT propaganda” and up to 200,000 rubles ($3,185) for “demonstrations of LGBT and information that encourages a change of gender among teenagers.”, but that's under the foreign agents law. To wit, yeah, Maria Butina.
I would love to parse further, but I'm currently overcome with a depressive bout of realization that, "We have always been at war with Eastasia."
Jesus... Fucking... Christ...
Good for Russia.
I have a friend in Russia, former coworker, who I have unfortunately not spoken with but once since the Ukraine invasion. Don't want to get him in trouble by something I say in chat.
Anyway, from what I gather from conversations with him, Russia is a very puritanical nation, and the thought of gays makes a lot of them just go nuts. I sent him that meme with Trump and Putin shirtless together on a horse, and he asked me not to send stuff like that again because it was offensive. WTF? They're really stuck up there about homosexuality over there. Okay sure, it creeps me out a bit, but it's none of my business what's done in private. Keep it private and I don't have an issue.
But Russia is weird on this. Islam has a big problem with it for religious reasons. Parts of the US still has an issue with it for religious reasons. Just pointing out the gay saints in the Bible can make heads asplode. But Russia spent half of a century officially atheist, and it's still a mostly secular country. So this hostility is not religious based.
Methinks Putin doth protest too much.
Most societies around the world don't have much of a problem with homosexual intercourse; they know it happens, they discourage it, but otherwise ignore it. What they reject is homosexuality as a widely and openly practiced and accepted lifestyle; what they oppose is the deliberate rejection of heterosexual families.
Maybe CNN got this one right, maybe not, but if you cite CNN as a source, you're not credible.
How about you people at Reason do your effing job, look up the text of the bill, and then actually report on it?
Right after the two minutes hate.
Amen! The more government meddles, the more it fucks things up.
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Exactly what can they not say? Who is banning them? Certainly not the government and big Tech like the previous Twitter like they did to conservatives as Musk proved.
It would be interesting to know, because all I hear them talking about is LBGTQ+++++++++++++++++++++
Enlighten us all, or I will think you are a liar!
Just because you post something does not make it true.
Your right, they will always have a place porn.
For once, you spoke some good sense. Please keep that up.
"Who is banning them?"
Putin. Trump nuts have been trying but failing to overturn the 1A, so while they want to, they're not actually managing to do it.