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China Declares a Culture War on Androgyny

Officials look for scapegoats to blame as the working force suffers burnout.

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China's latest round of authoritarian fearmongering isn't just targeting gamers. The government is going after celebrity culture and in particular young men they deem to be too effeminate.

The Associated Press reports:

China's government banned effeminate men on TV and told broadcasters Thursday to promote "revolutionary culture," broadening a campaign to tighten control over business and society and enforce official morality.

Broadcasters must "resolutely put an end to sissy men and other abnormal esthetics," the TV regulator said, using an insulting slang term for effeminate men—"niang pao," or literally, "girlie guns."

The Wall Street Journal notes that this, like the video game restrictions, is part of cultural obsession with the masculine aesthetics that is common under authoritarian regimes, from the Soviet left to the fascist right. This often involves attempts purge anything that doesn't fit those narrow gender roles.

China has historically had a complicated relationship with gay and trans issues. LGBT folks have historically been prosecuted there as mentally ill undesirables, but the government eventually started to ease up. China decriminalized homosexuality in 1997, and in 2001 removed it from their official list of mental disorders.

Subsequent polling shows that Chinese citizens, like their counterparts across much of the world, were becoming more and more comfortable with LGBT folks. Soon Shanghai was having gay pride marches and officially recognized gay bars.

But as Brian Wong recently reported in SupChina, the past five years have seen a backlash. The pride march has been canceled (though most were last year, due to COVID). Movies with LGBT gay themes are often censored or outright banned. Shanghai University is making a list of students who publicly identify as LGBT, and activists aren't sure why. Earlier in July, the government ordered the Tencent-owned messaging app WeChat to delete accounts connected to LGBT groups.

China's leadership certainly seems to be setting up LGBT folks and "non-masculine" men as social scapegoats. These moves may also be an indication that the younger generation is not on board with the Chinese government's goals, and that leaders are struggling to rein them in. Working-age adults are starting to rebel against the heavy workloads being demanded to maintain a population that is growing older. A cultural movement called "lying flat" has developed, where young adults are rejecting long work schedules and living simpler lives in defiance of the ruling party's pressures.

In that context, these new commandments seem to blames video games, entertainment, and androgyny for making men "soft" when a lot of them are just burned out. Pointing a finger at China's version of Drag Queen Story Hour is a dodge—a way to redirect attention away from a top-heavy and corrupt regime that is far from the socialist fantasy where the government provides for its citizens.

If you want to grasp what's really behind this suddenly blaming of video games and androgyny in China, read this piece in The Christian Science Monitor that describes what these "lying flat" workers are actually feeling:

Official data show China's economic output per person doubled over the past decade, but many complain the gains went mostly to a handful of tycoons and state-owned companies. Professionals say their incomes are failing to keep up with soaring housing, child care, and other costs….

Thousands vented frustration online after the Communist Party's announcement in May that official birth limits would be eased to allow all couples to have three children instead of two. The party has enforced birth restrictions since 1980 to restrain population growth but worries China, with economic output per person still below the global average, needs more young workers.

Minutes after the announcement, websites were flooded with complaints that the move did nothing to help parents cope with child care costs, long work hours, cramped housing, job discrimination against mothers, and a need to look after elderly parents.

If China's response to these frustrations seems tone-deaf, remember: This is a country that tried to ban all representations of Winnie the Pooh to protect President Xi Jinping's ego, just because people had been mocking him by saying he looked like the bear. Is it really young people who are "soft" and "weak" here?

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  2. Bringing down the patriarchy! Way to go China.

    1. If only the Chinese people would bring down the “Patriarchy” of Emperor Xi, the People’s Liberation Army, and the Chinese Communist Party.

        1. Well played.

  3. There’s a lot to unpack from this article, so I’m not sure if I can get it all in. But I’m becoming curious about Reason’s sudden spate of China articles– whinging about the internal policies that are anti-freedom, anti-individual and anti-liberty.

    For the record, I agree that those policies are all of the above and more. But what I find curious is that at some point one must recognize that what country X wants for its internal policies, is what it would like to see more of in the world… externally. And no country is excepted from this, the only question is, how much clout does country X wield in the world?

    The United States, for better or worse believes in things like Women’s rights, gay (now LGBTQI2+) rights, access to abortion etc., and the State department will attempt to advance these things around the world by giving grants, money, material support to places in the world where they think they can nudge it.

    If you don’t think China is going to try to nudge the world based on the internal vision it has for itself, you’re sorely mistaken.

    So, that leaves us with the question… does the United States (or any other nation for that matter) have any interest, let alone moral obligation to… push back against China’s growing influence on the world? What would be the libertarian take? If the libertarian take is “these are just internal matters, maaaan” then why do we even get these articles?

    1. I don’t know if this is what is intended, but I think it does serve as a good object lesson to people here who think a government of unlimited power would bring about heaven on earth.

      1. As Lao-Tzu observed in The Tao De Ching: “The wise Emperor does nothing, and yet the Ten Thousand Things do themselves.”

        Lao-Tzu also said nothing for or against Homosexuality, so I’m sure he would apply the above wisdom and say: “Let LGBTQ+ do LGBTQ+! And MSG is A-OK!” 😉

      2. I’d love to see how Antifa (apparently Maoists, in The Shining Path-Peru sense) react with to this.

        Did Xi ban mullets and skinny jeans?

      3. The key word here is “think…”

    2. The main way China exports its culture is through commerce, which we probably agree is the right way to export culture: offer value in the market and people will respect you and take your culture more seriously. So the obligation for the US and others is the same as always: offer value in the market.

      1. The main way China exports its culture is through commerce, which we probably agree is the right way to export culture:

        Yes, if you have a libertarian view of commerce. As has been discussed, the Chinese don’t. The Chinese have an economically fascist view of commerce: What private industry there is has close ties to the CCP, and as a collection of industries, their efforts are directed towards national goals. This results in some VERY shady global market machinations.

        1. Technically, the left does not believe in it, either.

          They oppose cultural imperialism and that is a large part of what the US does. Rainbow flags in Afghanistan, like it or not, are pure cultural imperialism.

          1. It always did seem strange to me that the only part of Afghan culture we did not want to interfere with was the raping little boys part.

        2. Economic war… as one component of a long term, all out, in every way possible, war to dominate the planet.

      2. The main way China exports its culture is through commerce.

        Coercion. All cultures use coercion

        Western Civilization is dressed office casual and the coercion occurs at cocktail parties.

        Marxists are armed and in uniform and the coercion occurs wherever it encounters weakness.

        Unaligned cultures are semi-nekkid and the coercion occurs to any ‘other’ within arms reach.

    3. The backward society is the one that refuses to consider the truth in argument regardless of its lofty lies.

      1. And a certain Volkisch society you admire did just that.

    4. Due to wuflu every country has the right to bomb every major city in china

    5. “If you don’t think China is going to try to nudge the world based on the internal vision it has for itself, you’re sorely mistaken.”

      I think China is going to promote whatever it believes to be in ITS self interest; and they are probably very pleased with our increasingly woke military establishment.

    6. This isn’t necessarily so. Western philosophy has come up with the idea of global humanity, all complying with the most rational ethics. In China, they may be fine with queer behavior in other people, as long as it isn’t happening among their own.

    7. A libertarian can and should oppose governments violating the individual’s rights to Life, Liberty, Property, and Pursuit of Happiness and work toward changing it without supporting war as a means of affecting that change.

      Probably the best thing we can do to fight against the influence of Red China in the world is to de-tax, de-regulate, de-control, and un-encumber from debt production and exchange within the United States and make up the global powerhouse of prosperity we once were and then some. Combined with our mastery of Automation, Mecha-Electronics, Artificial Intelligence, and 3-D Printing, there’s no reason why the U.S.A. couldn’t do so. That would be a real implimentation of Making America Great Again, done by each of us, not some home-grown “Top Man.”

      1. Hunh… smells like liberty.

        Sounds like you’d like to Erase the Legislative 20th Century. Where do I sign up?

        1. I know, right? Increasingly, that message doesn’t belkng even here.

          Fortunately, there’s no place to sign up, there’s just the act of doing it. (And in doing it, sometimes you don’t want your name signed off on it.)

          1. Correction: Increasingly, that message doesn’t belong even here.

      2. de-tax, de-regulate, de-control, and un-encumber from debt production and exchange within the United States
        I’d vote for that!

        Translates to you’ll never get elected with that platform.

        1. More likely, I’d get assassinated for that position. Too many cronies on the take, including organized crime.

          1. Yeah, Biden’s reaction to Manchins op/ed is the perfect example. 3. whatever trillion – the Great Leap Forward and the glorious path to expansion of central planning, government employment, modern monetary theory and government job creation and bailouts for blue cities.

    8. “If you don’t think China is going to try to nudge the world based on the internal vision it has for itself, you’re sorely mistaken.”

      I think it’s you who are sorely mistaken. These oppressive policies stem from a lack of self confidence in the ruling party, and fear of the population. With the US it’s not the case. The US oligarchs are still confident and lack that fear Chinese leaders have. They even let the population possess millions of guns, confident that the population isn’t a threat. You’re sorely mistaken if you think that’s the case in China.

      “What would be the libertarian take? If the libertarian take is “these are just internal matters, maaaan” then why do we even get these articles?”

      Supporting libertarian interests. They exist in the US. They exist in China. Your idea of a country like the US having interests leads to things like a 20 year occupation of Afghanistan which only serves to line the pockets of the oligarchy.

  4. Late stage communism. That’s the far left way and what they want for us as well.

    1. communism promotes vulgarities until it no longer needs them. Once Reason has destroyed the Fascist Right that it perceives to be more evil than China, those in power will realize Reason will have no more need to exist itself.

      1. It’s a process. Demoralization, destabilization, crisis, and normalization. We’re at destabilization, China is at normalization.

        1. This, of course, assumes that LGBTQ+ acceptance is Demoralization, a premise one would need to prove.

          1. I see that acceptance as Destabilization. Baking the cakes is the Demoralization.

            And… i think we are in Crisis Stage; we have lost trust in Government, Academia, Medicine, Jurisprudence, the Press, Religion, the Police, the Banks and our Currency, and most significantly each other.

            The new Normal will look a lot like the dark ages waiting for its Magna Carta

            1. As long as it’s all within the bounds of the NAP/NIFF Principle, a free society can stand destabilization in the culture.

              Also, fortunately, nothing about human history indicates that it has to work in the stages you mentioned.

              As T.E. Lawrence “of Arabia” observed in that famous moment that distinguishes East from West: “Nothing is written.”

    2. If they want to bring The Cultural Revolution here, they might be greeted with Pink Pistols, not to mention all the benficiaries of the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” trained in use of all manner of small and big arms.

      1. Money. You can have all the pistols you want, it is the ability to buy and sell that will bring you to your knees. When you are limited to the money in your pocket, and the sheep are unwilling to make an unauthorized sale your ability to operate is severely curtailed.

        1. True, but many Pink Pistoliers (is that the right term?) are already “vested” and anyone with the right military manuals can always improvise weaponry.

          And as I observed before, even with the lumber prices going up, there’s no shortage of archery ammo.

    3. An authoritarian leader imposing conservative social strictures in order to preserve “culture.”

      Yeah, maybe economic theory is incidental here.

  5. Even a broken watch is right twice a day.

    1. What about a watch that identifies as a toaster?

    2. A stopped sundial would only be right once, and because that means the Earth would stop, no one on Earth would be left alive to read it. Sounds like a sundial is more your speed.

      I’ll stick with a digital clock synced to an atomic clock via satellite, thank you very much. It’s the closest we can get to always accurate and doesn’t require sacrificing lives.

      1. You missed the point.

  6. Looks like China understands what destroys social cohesion in a society.
    As a libertarian I say let people do whatever they want, but I can still recognize the fact that the current LGBTQWTFBBQ mania has been incredibly destructive.
    It’s value for the clerisy lies not in the actual peccadillos themselves, but in the ability to call the plebs “bigots”. Invaluable for class warfare.

    1. A “libertarian” who relishes ecumenical, interfaith, multicultural scriptures of horror against LGBTQ+ people throughout time?

      Man, somebody has set the bar for being a libertarian pretty low.

    2. Destructive in what way?

      Because it makes you uncomfortable in your fee fees?

  7. China has historically had a complicated relationship with gay and trans issues.

    I’ve heard that China has historically had a complicated relationship with a lot of people. Kinda the way Hitler had a complicated relationship with Jews.

    1. I’ve heard that gay and trans people will find places where there are no issues and make one, theirs. Pizzerias, Bakeries, Jewelers, closely-held corporations…

      Say what you will about socialist dictatorships, at least it’s an ethos.

      1. German poet Heinrich Heine described that ethos quite nicely: “Communism has a language which every people can understand—it’s elements are hunger, envy, and death.”

        And there are no issues “made-up” or otherwise in a Socialist/Communist society either…none to talk about anyway.

        1. Jewish Bolsheviks like Lenin and soon to be secret police henchmen used liras and propaganda to overthrow the Russian monarchy in 1917 and create communist Russia.

          Jews love communism.

          1. Communism existed long before there were a distinct Jewish people or Jewish religion. It existed anywhere primitive tribes of humans lived in scarcity and had to pool together for survivial and the Big Cahuna chief distributed the few resourses the tribe had.

            And Plato’s totalirarian Republic existed independently of the Jewish people and was admired by your Nazi buddies. So fuck off with that “Communism is Jewish” crap!

            1. ” It existed anywhere primitive tribes of humans lived in scarcity and had to pool together for survivial and the Big Cahuna chief distributed the few resourses the tribe had. ”

              A tribal head man doling out resources is not communism. Communism is where resources are held communally. This was most evident in band societies, which lack the tribal institutions. It still can be found in modern day Israel in the kibbutz where property is held communally. They don’t do this because resources are scarce, but out of a belief in egalitarianism and the ideas that inspired Marx and many others.

        2. Even at that “go hungry so that others can eat”, implicit assumptions aside, makes sense. If I have more than enough food and someone else doesn’t, they get to eat. When someone else goes hungry, I eat.

          Gay/trans rights, OTOH, “Support homosexuality so that…” what? I don’t get chased out of town by a mob or get beaten with a stick? Maybe in the days when they were supposedly getting dragged to death behind pickup trucks it made some sense but even then the ethos was about not killing people needlessly/unjustifiably.

          1. I would have to first make sense of all that before I could even reply.

            1. What’s the intrinsic benefit to me, not being gay, to supporting homosexuality? As I indicated, I can understand not dragging people to death behind pickup trucks because I wouldn’t want to be dragged to death behind pickup trucks and the people getting dragged to death may do my dry cleaning or whatever. But beyond that, what’s the point? I can’t and have no desire to pee in the women’s restrooms and gay pride parades are an annoyance. I should support gay marriage because I wouldn’t want someone ‘banning’ my marriage?

              1. “what’s the point? ”

                The point is that you should support people to make their own decisions about their own sexuality. Whether you benefit or not is entirely irrelevant.

                1. When I put my support behind something, it is getting my approval. I advocate it.

                  If all this LGBT crap was universally recognized as a choice as you suggest then it would fade into the oblivion of bad choices and had ZERO lobby group influence on any legislation anywhere. I certainly wouldn’t support it.

                  As “not a choice” it is clearly a disorder that inhibits mating and the superiority of the nuclear family. Rational people don’t support disorders, we work to overcome them.

                  1. You’re a modernist like Freud or the Communists. They viewed homosexuality as an illness, as you do. Postmodernists have a different view of things. They don’t view homosexuality as an illness that needs treatment.

                    Aside from that, why is a nuclear family superior to a normal family?

                    1. I value truth as determined by the irrefutable evidence of logic and science. Put that in your bucket.

                      Life is a continuum. Living DNA containing all of the genetic history of only one male and one female combine at conception creating a new human at the beginning of their life.

                      Only a nuclear family shares this unique relationship of parenting offspring so genetically and fundamentally connected.

                      Any other relationship is lesser.

                    2. It wasn’t until 1973 that the APA was coerced by politics and false scientific claims by the feminist lobby that the removed homosexuality from the DSM.

                    3. You’re wrong about Freud too. Is everything you say refuted as bullshit?

                      Freud thought that people who were high in the trait of narcissism would be more likely to develop homosexuality because loving the same sex is like an extension of loving oneself.[10]

                      “Freud believed treatment of homosexuality was not successful because the individual does not want to give up their homosexual identity because it brings them pleasure. He used psychoanalysis and hypnotic suggestion as treatments, but showed little success.[11] It was through this that Freud arrived at the conclusion that homosexuality was “nothing to be ashamed of, no vice, no degradation, it cannot be classified as an illness, but a variation of sexual function”.

                      Cite provided

                      http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology

                    4. Freud recognized that homosexuality was either a choice or a disorder, as do I.

                      Through his experience he concluded that it was a choice.

                      I could care less. I don’t support either.

  8. “University is making a list of students who publicly identify as LGBT, and activists aren’t sure why”
    Proving once again anyone that describes themselves as an activist is a retard. There is only one reason for the Gove to keep a list of people it views as undesirable, just ask the Uighur

    1. “So glad it can’t happen here”…..

      A good reason to keep one’s mouth shut (and net presence discrete). Anyone who thinks the current status quo even in the US is forever is deluding him/her/their-selves.

  9. A warriors reputation is based on the reputation of his enemies.

    I wouldn’t be Bragging about going to war with faggots.

    1. Aren’t you quoting a faggot who sued someone for publicly alleging he was a faggot?

      1. Huh, I guess the sentiment has been repeated endlessly as both insult and (self) compliment.

        “Judge a man by the reputation of his enemies.”
        — Arabian Proverb
        “You can always judge a man by the quality of his enemies.”
        — Oscar Wilde
        “I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
        — Franklin D. Roosevelt

      2. “Aren’t you quoting a faggot who sued someone for publicly alleging he was a faggot?”

        That was Liberace as well. He was so concerned about his sexuality that he hid the fact he had AIDS. He underwent the indignity of a court ordered exhuming of his body and subsequent autopsy. Similar was Alan Bloom, author of The Closing of the American Mind. You have to admire the courage of Rock Hudson, I think the first celebrity to publicly admit he had AIDS.

    2. Take it up with your Fuhrer, Herr You-Know-Who-Else, Sheissenkopf!

  10. Ken opined yesterday that the Chinese government are the ultimate progressives. I specifically gave this example as one of three ways the Chinese _communist_ government are not like progressives at all.

    1. The progressive Biden admin is also getting folks kicked off of social media if they don’t match the official party doctrine of the day. Cancel culture picks a target and attacks. In China. And in the US.
      Ken 1
      Mike 0

    2. I specifically gave this example as one of three ways the Chinese _communist_ government are not like progressives at all.

      What, exactly, makes homosexuality or whatever (lack of) principles composes LGBTQism progressive?

      1. Mike, like most leftists, won’t discuss what progressivism is because most decent people would horrified by the philosophy that underlies communism, fascism, nazism, socialism, theocracy, etc and has killed hundreds of millions of people.

        1. That philosophy is, in a nutshell, support the strongman with a cult of personality or die.

          Progressives hate their leaders. This is all you guys.

      2. What, exactly, makes homosexuality or whatever (lack of) principles composes LGBTQism progressive?

        maybe that it requires subsidies from the treasury to flourish and threats from men with badges to accept?

        1. Nothing says ‘progress’ like persecuting the religious.

          1. Nothing says persecution like “being gay while there are Christians around.” Actually nothing.

            1. How many Christian Emperors literally fed homosexuals to the lions? Name names.

        2. Homosexuality has existed throughout humanity’s time on Earth and exists in other species besides humans. It does not need tax dollars or government guns to exist, though LGBTQ+ do need respect for their Individual Rights and Equal Justice Before The Law just like Heterosexuals.

          1. Nothing says ‘progress’ like citing precedence predating the evolution of man.

        3. “What, exactly, makes homosexuality or whatever (lack of) principles composes LGBTQism progressive?”

          It’s not really progressive, whatever that means, so much as post modern. ie the rejection of a view of the world as the working out of binary oppositions. An extreme example of this I think was a New Yorker article that identified some 30 different genders.

          1. I’m not sure it’s postmodern to return to a view of humanity shared by classical cultures and practically every culture until a tribe of precariously surviving desert people decided to pass down their uniquely strict reproductive laws to the entire world.

            But that’s not the whole story, because until you get to the Book of Revelations, biblical morality was decidedly not binary; the Old Testament recognized people as essentially recently evolved animals, and the Jesus stuff was all about transitioning from that state to a more sophisticated morality (bringing into the narrative one of many similar advancements wherein society went from sacrificing goats and children to the deity sacrificing himself once and for all).

            Only in Revelations, a piece of propaganda promising heaven for the good people and damnation for the bad people, written after losing a war to the Romans, do we get the binary stuff. Of course Jesus was supposed to return relatively quickly.

            1. I was thinking of binaryism as a hallmark of modernism, whether it’s government vs market or bourgeois vs the proletariat. The ancient times and the middle ages were not like that. I’m no philosopher but wasn’t it until Descartes before the polar view of things got a toehold in western thought? And postmodernism is a break from that way of viewing things. In a word, Multipolar. Communist China is still beholden to modernism, like Marx was.

              1. I was thinking of binaryism as a hallmark of modernism, whether it’s government vs market or bourgeois vs the proletariat. The ancient times and the middle ages were not like that.

                Yes, tribalism wasn’t common until the rise of The West. Obviously, binary logical thinking wasn’t a hallmark of ancient philosophers and only could’ve developed after the diode was invented. Distinguished philosophical genius indeed.

                1. It’s not cartesian tribalism, but cartesian dualism. And China, at least the communist party, is rooted in modernism, not postmodernism. Though they may be heading in that direction drawing on figures as diverse as Lao Tzu and Alfred Whitehead.

                  1. It’s not cartesian tribalism, but cartesian dualism.

                    Just because you put the word cartesian in front of bullshit doesn’t mean it’s not bullshit. Dualism has roots in Aristotle’s mind/body, form/substance musings almost two millenia before Descartes was born. You’ve either got shit for brains, enjoy pretending like you’ve got shit for brains, or some combination thereof. Either way everyone else, of all tribes would be best served if you shut your shithole.

                    1. “Just because you put the word cartesian in front of bullshit doesn’t mean it’s not bullshit. ”

                      I didn’t come up with the term. Cartesian dualism has been around since the time of Descartes. And postmodernism rejects the bipolar view of the world in favor of a multipolar view. That’s why we get the 30 different genders that are bandied about these days.

                      Aristotle rejected Plato’s form/substance distinction. Neither were postmodernists nor modernists, needless to say.

            2. I’m not sure it’s postmodern to return to a view of humanity shared by classical cultures and practically every culture until a tribe of precariously surviving desert people decided to pass down their uniquely strict reproductive laws to the entire world.

              Revisionist history = progress!

              1. The entire reading of Horus and Seth (2050 BC – 1650 BC) is predicated on the idea that, one way or the other, it’s shameful for men to have sex with men. Even a reading exceedingly generous to homosexuality unequivocally legitimizes rape.

                1. “The entire reading of Horus and Seth (2050 BC – 1650 BC) is predicated on the idea that, one way or the other, it’s shameful for men to have sex with men. ”

                  That was a long time ago. In postmodern America it’s hard to avoid cultural works, from Hollywood or TV land for example, that present homosexuality in anything by glowing terms. If anything it’s the anti-gay bigot who’s likely to be the butt of the jokes.

                  1. That was a long time ago.

                    Right. I was refuting the notion that modesty or sexual mores didn’t exist prior to the rise of Judaism or Christianity. It’s utter bullshit. The Egyptians, well before Christianity and arguably before Judaism/The Old Testament/oppressing the Jews used euphemisms to refer to sex and contextually/euphemistically it’s clear that some sexual practices were frowned upon. Even in more ancient cultures where sex was more openly regarded, there’s a clear heterosexual or fertile primacy.

                    The idea that every culture prior to Christianity (or whatever tribe Tony was referring) far and wide routinely practiced homosexuality is just abjectly stupid. Might as well say that the reason lots of primate species are monogamous is because the Christians converted them and that the reason primates are ~15% monogamous as a species and mammals are ~5% monogamous is because it’s easier to teach primates to read the Bible. It’s just abject retardation, far more destructive than Creationism, being wilfully inflicted on other people.

                    1. You have interesting ideas about Christianity. I met some priest candidates who told me that various proscribed sexual practices are almost de rigueur in the priesthood and those who come to it with normal tastes are soon bent to perversion.

  11. She’s my China boy – David Bowie

    1. “Oh, baby, just you shut your mouth.” 😉

  12. Slave labor? Okay.
    Internment camps? Fine!
    Occupying Tibet? Alright
    Constantly threatening Taiwan and trying to eliminate its status as a free nation? No biggie.

    But a culture war on wimpy men! My god, the monsters.

    China considers itself, with good reason, the emerging world power, with the US in decline. You aren’t going to tolerate wusses if you think you are the new alpha dog.

    And I don’t see that it has anything to do with homosexuality. Many gays are hyper masculine – while dated, look at the Village People. All of them were macho types – military, police, construction workers, cowboy, biker

    1. All of them were macho types – military, police, construction workers, cowboy, biker

      Might also note; unproductive whimpy men. Soldier, policeman, construction worker… vs. childless trophy wife with a penis. As unbearable as they may be, at least soccer moms take kids to soccer while their husbands work. Poor China, why don’t you value clowns, mimes, and trannies as much as “we” Westerners do?

    2. RE: The Village People, uh they even had a song about that. I WANT TO BE. A MACHO MANNNNNN.

    3. No, Jeremy, it’s Both/And/And/And/And/And It’s the whole package of tyranny and oppression in The Middle Kingdom that is wrong for a libertarian. And the ultimate libertarian goal should be to get Red China to Tao Te Ching levels of government.
      .

    4. Nah. It’s just another arbitrary order by a mad emperor. Like the video game curfew and banning Winnie the Pooh. Next thing you know he will want to build a wall on the border with Mongolia ….oh wait.

  13. What a road of lubbish!

  14. China is way overrated. Xi has taken the Great Leap Backward.

    It cannot be compared to any political or economic movement in the US today. China is what it always was. An empire ruled by mandarins issuing decrees.

    1. “China is what it always was. ”

      Edward Said wrote a book about this sort of ‘Orientalism.’
      http://library.lol/main/73D7189F8C10C0AD8ED52CAAC4777974

      He was interested in how Westerners, even the most educated among us, view Arabs and people of East Asia in a cartoonishly simple and unflattering light.

      1. Edward Said? Well, what did he say? 😉

  15. It’s rather ambitious trying to strictly control the cultural attitudes of a billion people in the age of the internet. What I don’t understand is why authoritarians don’t do the obvious and stop building cities. If they kept everyone poor, rural, and stupid, they’d never have revolutions. The Kim regime figured that out.

    I suppose the idea that Xi is so enamored with, same as Mussolini and Stalin and all the rest, is the efficiency of totalitarianism with respect to accomplishing large-scale goals, and why even bother if you’re just going to farm rice?

  16. “It’s rather ambitious trying to strictly control the cultural attitudes of a billion people in the age of the internet.”

    The internet makes it both possible and easy. It works both ways too. Government can control netizens but netizens too have the ability to force change in government.

    ‘If they kept everyone poor, rural, and stupid, they’d never have revolutions. ”
    Juche is what they call it, self reliance. They have to their own food and anything from outside, like oil, has to be purchased from abroad and is fraught with legal issues. North Koreans aren’t stupid. How many nations have nuclear and missile capability on a par with North Korea? Less than a dozen, I’m sure. North Korea is a monument to isolation as well as one to communism.

  17. Video games do make young men specifically as they tend to be gamers in much higher % soft. Seen it with my kids and their friends..basically making young American males into “cartmans” Not gonna be much help when we face tough foreign opponents. You need “Biffs” and not “Myrons” if you want to keep your freedom in the world.

    1. I’d rather a Myron who can discern and accept reality over a Biff, easily manipulated by propaganda.

      Myron can still point and shoot. Biff will shoot in the wrong direction.

      When you are brainwashed by propaganda, you aren’t free.

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