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Cryptocurrencies

Bankrupt Crypto Exchange FTX Under Investigation

Plus: Democrats retain control of Senate, RIP Sharon Presley and Martin Wooster, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 11.14.2022 9:46 AM

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What's going on with FTX? The cryptocurrency exchange FTX has filed for bankruptcy amid revelations that it lent billions in customer assets to an affiliated trading firm called Alameda Research. Now its owner—a prominent Democratic donor and supporter of cryptocurrency regulation—is reportedly under criminal investigation.

Both FTX and Alameda Research were owned by Sam Bankman-Fried. Earlier this year, a Fortune magazine headline said he "has been called the next Warren Buffett." But "now, Bankman-Fried looks, at best, like the original storyline for Michael Saylor of Microstrategy during the Dotcom bust. Or, more likely, like Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos infamy. Or, with increasing plausibility, like a less civic-minded Bernie Madoff," writes Michael W. Green at Common Sense.

Bankman-Fried's downfall is bad news for Democrats. He spent a reported $36 million on donations to Democrats this election season, making him "the second-largest donor to Democrats after George Soros," according to the Financial Times.

What it means for cryptocurrency regulation is less clear. Bankman-Fried and FTX were major proponents of the proposed Digital Commodities Consumer Protection Act (DCCPA), which was introduced in the Senate in August and passed out of the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs in September. "The whole thing was being spearheaded by Sam and FTX, and their credibility has just been shredded," Nic Carter, a general partner at Castle Island Ventures, told Fortune.

"While some hoped that legislation like the DCCPA would pass during the lame-duck session after Tuesday's midterms, [Kristin Smith of the Blockchain Association] said that's now unlikely, both because Bankman-Fried was a driving force and that policymakers may be more reluctant as they wait for the fallout," Fortune reports.

But FTX's implosion could ultimately serve as fodder for those who think cryptocurrency-related businesses need more oversight. "The recent events show the necessity of congressional action," argued Rep. Patrick McHenry (R–N.C.), the top Republican on the House Financial Services Committee, in a statement. 

The downfall of FTX is at once simple and complicated.

The root cause seems to be simple: poor decisions—bordering on fraud—by Bankman-Fried. As a cryptocurrency exchange, FTX is supposed to hold people's crypto assets and help them make trading transactions (a service for which it collects a fee). Instead, it lent billions of dollars in customer assets to Alameda Research, a scheme The Wall Street Journal described last week:

FTX Chief Executive Sam Bankman-Fried said in investor meetings this week that Alameda owes FTX about $10 billion, people familiar with the matter said. FTX extended loans to Alameda using money that customers had deposited on the exchange for trading purposes, a decision that Mr. Bankman-Fried described as a poor judgment call, one of the people said.

All in all, FTX had $16 billion in customer assets, the people said, so FTX lent more than half of its customer funds to its sister company Alameda….

FTX paused customer withdrawals earlier this week after it was hit with roughly $5 billion worth of withdrawal requests on Sunday, according to a Thursday morning tweet from Mr. Bankman-Fried. The crisis forced FTX to scramble for an emergency investment.

FTX made a deal to sell to its rival Binance, but Binance backed out, saying the company's problems were "beyond our control or ability to help."

Now the U.S. Department of Justice, the Securities and Exchange Commission, and the Manhattan U.S. attorney's office are reportedly investigating.

Whether or how Bankman-Fried broke the law is more complicated. Lending out customer funds without their consent "is generally forbidden in the regulated securities and derivatives markets," notes the Journal, but the same rule doesn't apply when it comes to cryptocurrency. Still, the move may be considered fraud or embezzlement. From the Journal:

"What this will boil down to is, were there deliberate lies to convince depositors or investors to part with their assets?" said Samson Enzer, a former Manhattan federal prosecutor. "Were there statements made that were false, and the maker of those statements knew they were false and made with the intent to deceive the investor?"

Prosecutors also could home in, the lawyers said, on statements Mr. Bankman-Fried made on Twitter last week, when he said FTX was "fine" and customer assets were safe—comments he later deleted.

Jurisdiction in this case is also complicated. FTX is based in the Bahamas, and was previously based in Hong Kong, though it did serve U.S. customers and have a U.S. affiliate.

The details of FTX's bankruptcy are also complicated. "FTX is what's known in the industry as a 'free fall' bankruptcy," reports Bloomberg:

More than 130 related companies sought court protection at the end of last week without filing any of the usual court motions or explanatory documents seen in a big US insolvency case. Two days later, the companies' main court docket contains only a 23-page fill-in-the-blank petition. In nearly every other multi-billion dollar Chapter 11 case in recent years, lawyers quickly file a smattering of routine requests designed to stabilize operations.

In a statement, the company's new chief executive officer—a man who helped oversee the unwinding of Enron Corp.—told customers that details about the bankruptcy would hit the court docket "over the coming days."


ELECTION 2022

Democrats retain control of Senate. The victory of incumbent Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto in Nevada means Democrats will continue to control the U.S. Senate next year. Cortez Masto beat Republican Adam Laxalt in a very close race. That means Democrats now have 50 Senate seats and—with the vice president's tie-breaking vote in play—a Senate majority, no matter what happens in Georgia, where Sen. Raphael Warnock (D–Ga.) and Republican challenger Herschel Walker are heading into a runoff vote.

Several elections for seats in the U.S. House of Representatives are still too close to call. "Republicans were closer to taking the House, having won 211 seats compared to Democrats' 206, with 218 needed for a majority," reports Reuters. "But the final outcome might not be known for days as officials continue counting ballots nearly a week after Americans went to the polls."


FREE MINDS

RIP Sharon Presley and Martin Morse Wooster. Two libertarian luminaries, Sharon Presley and Martin Morse Wooster, passed away recently. Both were contributors to Reason.

Wooster died on November 12 after being struck by a car in a hit-and-run in Williamsburg, Virginia. He was a senior fellow at the Capital Research Center, a journalist, and the author of several books, including Angry Classrooms, Vacant Minds; The Great Philanthropists and the Problem of "Donor Intent"; and Great Philanthropic Mistakes. For a while he served as Reason's Washington editor. You can find his extensive Reason archive here.

Presley died on October 31 after a long struggle with various health issues. A longtime libertarian activist, she was the founder of Laissez Faire Books, the founder and executive director of the Association of Libertarian Feminists, and the author or editor of several books, including Exquisite Rebel: The Essays of Voltairine de Cleyre. You can find her Reason archive here.


FREE MARKETS

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QUICK HITS

If you're suffering from a case of the Mondays, at least you (probably) don't work for an institution that seeks to sentence (or allows people to be sentenced) on the basis of acquitted conduct. So you got that going for you, which is nice.https://t.co/ECROSTdDQR pic.twitter.com/CeOS8awxYo

— Clark Neily (@ConLawWarrior) November 14, 2022

• "Every election denier who sought to become the top election official in a critical battleground state lost at the polls this year, as voters roundly rejected extreme partisans who promised to restrict voting and overhaul the electoral process," reports The New York Times.

• Arizona Republican Kari Lake looks like she's losing the Arizona's governor race.

Lake's the only one of the full-MAGA conspiracy candidates with some charisma, strong pre-existing ties to the state's voters AND an opponent who's been widely criticized for a poor campaign. If she's not getting over the hump, the damage from the brand is pretty undeniable.

— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) November 14, 2022

• There's no good reason to expand the government-funded school lunch program, argues Baylen Linnekin.

• "Donald Trump's attorneys filed a lawsuit seeking to block the House January 6 select committee's subpoena demanding testimony in the investigation into Capitol attack," reports The Guardian.

• A potted plant could beat a Trump Republican these days, writes J.D. Tuccille.

• Nataša Pirc Musar, a lawyer who has represented Melania Trump, has become the first female president of Slovenia.

• New York Republican George Santos has won a seat in the U.S. House. Santos is the first openly gay non-incumbent Republican to be elected to Congress:

George Santos appears poised to make history as the 1st openly gay Republican non-incumbent elected to Congress. Previous openly gay Republican congressmen were outed or came out after being elected the for the 1st time. No out LGBTQ Republican has served in Congress since 2007. pic.twitter.com/SVcWvm626M

— Benjamin Ryan (@benryanwriter) November 9, 2022

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  1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

    They won't go after FTX too hard. After all, you've got to protect the names behind the money laundering.

    https://medium.com/@officialcryptohub0/ukraine-ftx-laundered-millions-worth-of-cryptocurrency-940ef294e1a1

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      https://heavy.com/news/sam-bankman-fried-ukraine-politics-biden/

      Before the bankruptcy, Bankman-Fried was “the second-largest donor to Democrats after George Soros,” according to Ft.com. He pledged to give $1 billion to political candidates but then backed off that pledge, the site reported.

      press release on the Aid to Ukraine efforts reads:

      The official website for Aid For Ukraine, an initiative that raises funds from the crypto community for the benefit of Ukraine’s military and humanitarian needs, has officially launched. The initiative is powered by the Ministry of Digital Transformation of Ukraine, FTX, and Everstake. This is the first instance of a cryptocurrency exchange providing a conduit for crypto donations to a public financial institution.”

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        "This is the first instance of a cryptocurrency exchange providing a conduit for crypto donations to a public financial institution.”

        But not the first instance of a shady huckster diverting funds to corrupt politicians and their owners while media pretends nothing is wrong.

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Ukraine has been a money laundering center of the left for decades at this point.

    3. R Mac   3 years ago

      I believe SCOTUS has ruled that it’s legal to launder money through Ukraine.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        And illegal to publish about it?

        1. R Mac   3 years ago

          That was a ruling by the FBI.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      Maybe, but the amount of media attention this is getting, plus the fact that FTX lost some elites a shit-ton of money, leads me to believe that Bankman-Fried will get whacked, legally speaking. They don't give a shit about the embarrassment aspect because they have no shame anyway. But playing with these peoples' money is like playing with their emotions.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

        Anyone giving odds that they try to claim he's really a MAGA Republican?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Or just let the Clinton Foundation take care of him.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          Zilch, since he's the second-largest Democratic sugar daddy. We'll see if he gets the Elizabeth Holmes treatment for being such a blatant, colossal fuck-up; Holmes was in thick with the DNC power-players, too, and she lost favor after her fraud simply became too big for her to contain anymore.

          1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

            I think this is right.

            After the bankruptcy, this dude won't have money to buy Democrats. And the election is past, the money is spent, so it's a case of "what have you done for me lately?"

            Wouldn't be surprised if the dude gets branded a republican in later elections, but they won't be able to do that level of gaslighting just yet. They'll just downplay the money he gave for the moment, it's post election so plenty of time for the news cycle to move on.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago (edited)

              It says something about the absolute state of our elites that their second-biggest donor was a such a wierdo who slept on a beanbag at his office with workers around him. How fucking socially maladapted can someone be?

              Allowing nerds to inherit the earth is going to go down as one of western civilization's worst fuckups imaginable.

          2. CE   3 years ago

            So a year of house arrest?

    5. Winnie SC   3 years ago

      FTX is "under investigation" like Hunter Biden is "under investigation."

    6. CE   3 years ago

      Wasn't the advantage of crypto supposed to be that all the transactions were in a public ledger? You've got the proof of work, undo the thefts.

      1. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

        The crypto transactions were not the "theft"; it was the transfer of $10m from FTX to Alameda. (You know, like it says in the article ^^.)

  2. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    What's going on with FTX?

    Midterms are over. We can talk about it now.

    1. A Thinking Mind   3 years ago

      But can we talk about the Biden laptop?

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        Not yet.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          What about that diary thing?

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            Nope.

          2. Aloysious   3 years ago

            Too local.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Democrats retain control of Senate.

    Two more years of court packing threats?

    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

      If they get 51 it won't be a threat.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        How long before SCOTUS has 101 justices?

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      3. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

        JesseAZ, losing the senate was political malpractice by Team R. To me, it is all about stopping judicial appointments.

        1. Winnie SC   3 years ago

          "You get what you pay for."

          The dems

    2. Libertariantranslator   3 years ago

      The Comstockist, the Nazi and Long Dong could resign. Unpacking could easily solve the problem, real or imagined. Lookit how women voters are scything down bigots and bulliers...

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Stupid cunt.

      2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        We need a libertarian translator to translate Hank's authoritarian gibberish.

      3. Winnie SC   3 years ago

        I see what you mean.

        No--actually I have no idea what language this is.

  4. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

    He spent a reported $36 million on donations to Democrats this election season, making him "the second-largest donor to Democrats after George Soros,"

    Wait, I though George Soros was a made-up boogeyman upon which Republicans project all of their anti-semitism?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      Exactly, just ask Shrike and a few of the others here.

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Sarcasmic was arguing here yesterday that donating to a Soros PAC was like donating to a political party or a food bank.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Did the Nazis have food banks?

          1. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 years ago

            Soylent green?

          2. Utkonos   3 years ago

            They opened soup kitchens.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Remember, Democrats hate big money in politics.

    2. Winnie SC   3 years ago

      Why has no one hunted down and killed Soros yet?

      Is he bullet proof or????

  5. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

    New York Republican George Santos has won a seat in the U.S. House. Santos is the first openly gay non-incumbent Republican to be elected to Congress

    When you need that many qualifiers, it's time to recognize that the discrimination in question has long been vanquished.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Wait, not trans? Forget about it.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        And what skin color does he identify with?

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        Yeah, Gay is so early 2000s.

        1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

          Said it here a couple days ago. I used to joke with a gay friend about how the average gay man has slightly higher education and income than their associated demographics. The joke was "This is what repression should look like."

          That was 2005 or so. Even then, nobody cared. It's not 1960 any more. Or even 1980.

          1. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 years ago

            Probably why it's moved on to trans and gender ID, etc. Need to keep the pot stirred. More. Always more.

    2. Unable2Reason   3 years ago

      Remember the "Barney Fag" comment by Boehner? Somebody needs to get to work on the name George Santos gaffe.

      1. Anomalous   3 years ago

        It was Dick Armey. With a name like his, it was pretty funny that he was going after Barney Frank.

    3. n00bdragon   3 years ago

      It's like baseball statistics. With enough qualifiers, any event can become an historic first. First left-handed 2nd base player to strike out against Joe Blow in a pre-season game during a rainstorm on a Tuesday. First indigenous-identifying black gay neurodivergent transbian immigrant to be nominated for dog catcher of Bumfuck Nowhere, GA.

    4. raspberrydinners   3 years ago

      Yes because one person doing well means there isn't discrimination anywhere.

      You sir are one of the dumbest people here and that is saying quite a lot.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        Yeah, True and Honest Marxism is always somewhere over the rainbow--literally and figuratively.

      2. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 years ago

        Or...if there's still just one person who's feelings are being hurt we need another law.

    5. kevrob   3 years ago

      The Dem, Zimmerman, is also openly gay. Oddly, the Third doesn't cover Fire Island! (FI is in the First.)

  6. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

    The victory of incumbent Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto in Nevada means Democrats will continue to control the U.S. Senate next year. Cortez Masto beat Republican Adam Laxalt in a very close race.

    Odd, don't you think, that Lombardo (R) wins the gubernatorial race, but Laxalt loses the Senate race? Maybe counting votes (and allowing them to come in) well after the polls have closedmight just have something to do with this. Even if it doesn't, it gives the appearance of it.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Fortified elections are the best kinds of elections.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      IMO there are only three reasons for broad participation democracy.

      1. You think that choices of government officials and policies will be better if everyone has a say.
      2. You think that support for government will be stronger if everyone feels they had a fair vote.
      3. You think that voting provides an effective cover for authoritarian power.

      Which one do we have?

      1. Eeyore   3 years ago

        3

    3. JasonAZ   3 years ago

      Lombardo was winning by too much to fortify.

      Laxalt should sue and request a recount and an investigation of these 50k votes that came in late. Sadly, the courts will probably tell him he doesn't have standing.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        The fuckery going on in Maricopa is probably worse than what happened in Nevada. That's two election cycles in a row now where a single county has been responsible for holding up a winner announcement for days.

        Arizona has basically become the 2020s version of Florida, with Maricopa taking on the Broward County role. No wonder Cochise County was basically getting ready to tell Hobbs, "fuck you and your bought and paid for judge, we're hand-counting this bitch."

        Just to note, the 2000 Florida election recounts featured a hand-count at the back end before the Supreme Court basically told the state to stop trying to find extra ballots in car trunks for Al Gore. So much for the "hand counts are more inaccurate" talking point.

      2. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

        Getting your excuses in early, I see...

    4. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

      Not odd at all, numbnuts.

      Look at Georgia and all of us ticket splitters here. Kemp won by eight points and idiot man-child Herschel lost the popular vote.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        Fuck off pedo.

      2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        "Look at Georgia and all of us ticket splitters here."

        What an odd metaphor for stuffing ballot boxes.

    5. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

      LP should have run Art Bell in Nevada

    6. Nemo Aequalis   3 years ago

      Especially when Laxalt was leading up until the polls closed.

      Nothing to see here.

    7. JeremyR   3 years ago

      Or maybe that people don't vote along straight party lines and non-Crazy, not Trumpist Republicans are more popular to moderates/unaffiliated?

  7. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    ...seeks to sentence (or allows people to be sentenced) on the basis of acquitted conduct.

    Juries are an obstacle to be overcome.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Actually, that's usually not very hard.

    2. Unable2Reason   3 years ago

      What do 12 of your peers know anyway?

      1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

        I couldn't get a jury of 12 of my peers. If I answer questions honestly, most prosecutors would never accept me for a jury.

        Best I could do is 12 people who don't have a job or are too dumb to get out of jury duty.

        1. kevrob   3 years ago

          You have peers? 🙂

  8. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

    Fetterman is the potted plant.

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    2. Unable2Reason   3 years ago

      Biden has moved the Overton Window on cognitive impairment so far that soon we'll have Forrest Gump running for President.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 years ago

        Gump would be preferable to the current and previous clowns. College football star, Vietnam Vet and self made millionaire... just need to pin him down on his tax policy.

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        Forrest Gump is literally better than both of them, because he cognitively in the zone. Biden and Fetterman are not even oriented to time and place- one of the core requirements of a cognitive test.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          Forrest Gump also has a moral compass, and would end up as President entirely by accident.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            Well, at least in the movie he did. The book is quite a bit darker than the gauzy Hollywood film, although I thought it was funnier, too. For example, in the book a scheduling fuck-up put him in an advanced senior-level calculus class and he proceeded to absolutely crush it because he found the formulas to be "as easy as pie," but he flunked out after his first year because he was functionally illiterate and couldn't pass English 101.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

          "Where's Jackie?"
          "Hi! Good night everybody!"

      3. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

        Chauncey Gardner in 2024!

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          "I like to watch."

      4. Anomalous   3 years ago

        Run, Forrest, run!

        1. kevrob   3 years ago (edited)

          When you are named after a CSA general and KKK mucky-muck, you are going to get cancelled.

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  9. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    "Arizona Republican Kari Lake looks like she's losing the Arizona's governor race."

    Wow, they're still having to fill out ballots? She must have absolutely crushed it.

    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

      It has been insane this vote count. They never gave people the total number of votes. And the slow count has been amazing to watch. Even in areas Lake was dominating, Hobbs has continued to increase. Difficulty is, nobody actually likes Hobbs. So not knowing the total vote count before the counting has made it very questionable.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        110% participation!

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

          I'm pretty sure that Frank McLaury, Tom McLaury, and Billy Clanton have all cast ballots for Hobbs.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

            But not the Earps.

      2. JasonAZ   3 years ago

        Yeah, the more this process plays out, the more corrupt it gets. Watching our country and specifically my state become a banana republic is disheartening.

        Even more sad when TDS-addled progressives, including Reason Editors, don't see that this won't end well.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          The election board even started making fun of people questioning them the other day.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            It shows how corrupt the election process is as a whole, and it doesn't just happen in Maricopa County. Similar reindeer games happen in Democrat-dominated areas like Travis County in Texas. There's all kinds of shit they can do to fuck with the process, from faulty election machines to short-stocking ballots at the voting precincts in Republican-dominated areas, to shit like "water main breaks." And these people have the audacity to claim that Republicans are suppressing votes.

            1. R Mac   3 years ago

              It’s nice to have media covering for you.

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

              And that's just Tuesday in Chicago.

            3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

              Classic Marxist tactic: always accuse your opponent of doing what you are doing.

              1. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

                Putin is hardly a Marxist.

          2. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

            JesseAZ, are they just incompetent (AZ election board), or is there really something more? Why do I ask. There is a saying to the effect of not blaming something on malice when incompetence can explain it. It will always come down to evidence.

            Is there actual evidence of illegal or criminal activity?

            1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

              I'll answer. People that are crunching the numbers, are showing that these mail in ballots are basically showing independent voters breaking 100% for Hobbs. That's simply impossible.

              Nothing short of a full audit will get to the bottom of this shit. But of course, the Dems and Progressives will fight that, so long as their candidate wins.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                Don't forget the McCainite cucks, too. Doocey and Brnovich have noticeably been MIA through this whole thing, even after it came out that members of the election board pulled a Sztrok/Page.

              2. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

                Yeah, better get some "Cyber Superfuckingheroes" to handle it this time.

  10. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    The System Is the Steal

    “If the franchise is really ‘sacred,’ let’s start acting like it.”

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      "The fundamental principle of all American elections has been to determine as far in advance as possible how many votes the other guy is getting and then come crashing in at the end with overwhelming numbers of newfound votes to close the deal at the finishing bell.

      You can find them in storerooms, in the trunks of cars; sometimes they fall off trucks, mimeographed and marked in advance to save the poor voter's time. You do whatever it takes, more or less within the limits of the law, and then worry about penalties after the election is safely in the bag."

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Hey, in Democracy 3.0 we will not even have to vote. Wise people will vote for us based on more enlightened perception of the common good.

      2. R Mac   3 years ago

        “You can find them in storerooms, in the trunks of cars; sometimes they fall off trucks”

        Or just keep them under the tables hidden by tablecloths.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Arizona Republican Kari Lake looks like she's losing the Arizona's governor race.

    I don't know if they could have made that count more suspicious if they tried.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      The chick who won is in charge of the counting. Nothing to see here.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        Honestly, places like Cochise County would be justified in saying at this point, "Fuck you, we don't recognize you as governor due to conflict of interest and what went on in Maricopa. Don't even bother coming down here during your "term" in "office," we'll take care of ourselves."

        1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

          That's how you get branded a "denier" and talked about in the press as though you're the same as people who are nazis and think the holocaust didn't happen.

          1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

            just to be clear -- the "denier" label only applies when questioning the process that elected a Democrat. Calling anyone else illegitimate is totes fine.

    2. Nemo Aequalis   3 years ago

      I've generally thought Trump has been blowing smoke when he complains the election was stolen from him, but in light of the rather obvious shenanigans getting pulled this time, I may have to re-evaluate that conclusion.

      1. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

        No need for a court decision, then...

  12. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    America’s Fourth World Vote System Is a Global Embarrassment

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      This is a part of the steal. How can you manufacture votes if you've got to complete the whole thing on Election Day evening?

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        You wouldn't know how many you'd need to win if you did it all at once. The initial mail-ins might not be enough.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Remember, democracy is too precious to let regular people decide elections.

        2. JesseAz   3 years ago

          No counting should be done before the total number of votes is known.

    2. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

      Election rules should probably be uniform throughout the USA, and some of these proposals seem fairly reasonable, but the author doesn't even seem to know that "foreign citizens" already cannot vote in any state or federal election in the country.

      Make you wonder what other ignorant prejudices he holds--and is confident enough about to display in the Heritage Foundation's pet news media.

      In any case, you're not going to get away with equating "election inefficiency" with "election fraud". Fervent belief without evidence is just "faith".

  13. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    This creepy crook became a hero to the ESG grifters & those genuinely dumb enough to believe his BS.
    @SBF_FTX belongs in jail.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      More than that, he's most likely involved in money laundering for the DNC.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        With 10% for the Big Guy.

      2. R Mac   3 years ago (edited)

        So he’s going to commit suicide?

        Edit: Sorry, I forgot we’re past the pretending stage. He’ll get a slap on the wrist and we can all move on already.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          He'll only be in trouble if he has information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.

    2. Nardz   3 years ago

      https://twitter.com/chernayakoshka/status/1592144634444419074?t=rUCrEotgQOCNG_3fvQnpKQ&s=19

      this isn’t proof of disingenuous conartistry. he believes every single word. this is a zealot of lower life’s cult of humanism, the worship of “progress.” it manifested in money laundering for the democratic party by design, not coincidence.

      [Link]

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        Yeah, the guy's just another transhuman globalist freak like the other WEF/UN thralls. That was why he was allowed to get as big as he was in the first place.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Donald Trump's attorneys filed a lawsuit seeking to block the House January 6 select committee's subpoena demanding testimony in the investigation into Capitol attack...

    Midterms are over. No one cares anymore.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Are you serious? The DNC will keep running against Trump until long after he is dead.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        Shit, they ran against Hoover all the way through 1996.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    A potted plant could beat a Trump Republican these days...

    ...but who's counting.

    1. Libertariantranslator   3 years ago

      Herbert Hoover? Dewey? Alf Landon? George Holy War Bush?

  16. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

    Arizona Republican Kari Lake looks like she's losing the Arizona's governor race

    And her opponent being the one overseeing this six-day vote count has nothing to do with it, I'm sure.

  17. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    Climate Change: 400 Private Jets Go Wheels-Up To COP27

    1. Derp-o-Matic 6000   3 years ago

      Shut up and eat the crickets, peasant!

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago (edited)

        Beef medallions were actually on the menu, but you filthy peasants eating farting cows are wrecking Gaia.

        "It's not hypocrisy. It's hierarchy."

        1. Overt   3 years ago

          We aren't saying that you can't have beef, just that beef consumption should be very, very rare. Like a treat. Everything moderated, that's the ticket. We should be eating beef only 1% of time. Or, you know, only 1% of the population should be able to eat it all the time.

          Kind of like how all the rich elites in California refuse to increase highway capacity, and instead give free HOV passes to the rich owners of electric vehicles. Or who make the energy for AC too expensive for people, but give themselves subsidies for solar systems to avoid that cost.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

            Excelsior!

            1. kevrob   3 years ago

              That's New York. Didn't Stan Lee teach you anything?

          2. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

            Soooo...like Canine Carry-Outs, right? 😉

          3. Utkonos   3 years ago

            “Beef consumption should be very rare.”
            ^Well done!

        2. Utkonos   3 years ago

          Mind your betters! Carry on!

  18. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    New York Republican George Santos has won a seat in the U.S. House. Santos is the first openly gay non-incumbent Republican to be elected to Congress...

    Heads exploding.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      But being gay so totally normal and we don’t have to make a big deal about it.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Actually, just being gay, especially for a white male without activist progressive credentials, is now in the oppressor category.

        1. Eeyore   3 years ago

          He is a cis white male after all right? The penultimate oppressor category.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

      Both. 🙂

    3. Libertariantranslator   3 years ago

      Why not Santos? Isn't Grabbers Of Pussy the party of choice for antichoice harridans?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Too bad TDS is not fatal.

        1. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

          It is apparently quite confusing.

  19. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    What Trump did to make career diplomats really mad: Ex-EU ambassador

    "He cut out a lot of the process. He would pick up the phone all the time and call a foreign leader and just riff with them the way you “What are you doing? What’s going on? What can we work on together? What can I do for you? And, more importantly, what are you going to do for us?” It really upset the bureaucracy because they didn’t have a role in that — “The president called who? Said what? Why weren’t we involved? Why didn’t we do a briefing on that?”

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      He makes it sound like a bad thing.

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        This was Vindmans entire testimony during the impeachment. The president was following guidance of the deep state.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      He would pick up the phone all the time and call a foreign leader and just riff with them the way you “What are you doing? What’s going on? What can we work on together? What can I do for you? And, more importantly, what are you going to do for us?”

      Someone forgot to tell the bureaucratic career diplomats that this is what a developer like Trump will do. They cut the BS and talk directly to whomever is in charge. IMHO, it's a good thing.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

        Hell, with telegraphs since the 1830s, the telephone since 1876, radio since 1896, television since the 1930s, teletype, telex, and facsimile since the 1950s, then BBSs and the internet since the 1960s, why in the world is diplomacy even a thing?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

          Much easier to kiss ass in person.

          1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

            This.

            You can be out for a phone call, or even a zoom. If someone is at your door it's harder to pretend, so to speak.

            The visuals also matter. Heads of state shaking hands shows they spent their valuable time to visit one another. Politics on a worldwide scale needs simple, visual gestures. It is kabuki theater, where everything is acted out with gestures that can be understood even from the back row.

        2. Libertariantranslator   3 years ago

          There were facsimile machines on Wall Street in 1929. Versions of the thing still exist in 3rd World libraries as ways to make images off microfilms in the event that yard-wide thermal paper ever becomes commercially available again. Also in 1929, tickers connecting the NY and Chicago stock exchanges and money markets operated a lot like a 300 baud modem.

    3. Ragnarredbeard   3 years ago

      Angry they weren't getting to be wined and dined or make trips to the countries.

    4. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

      Are you sure he said "us"?

      Rudy certainly seemed to be operating in a more "personal" capacity when he travelled to Ukraine with Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman. Indeed, Trump was ultimately impeached for holding US government military aid hostage to his own interests in his re-election campaign.

  20. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    Fed-up US farmers tell why government will put them out of business

    "Within the next few months, the United States is projected to import more agricultural products than it exports for the first time in history"

    1. Jerryskids   3 years ago

      Another historic first for the Biden regime! Joe told us he was going to put the fossil fuel industry and the automotive industry out of business, he didn't tell us he was going to put the agriculture industry out of business as well. I suppose next he'll be putting the clothing industry out of business.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   3 years ago

        Coming from the Concord NC area, US textiles have been long dead since the 90s.

    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

      Thank God Bill Gates bought up all that farmland so people could use it.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        For raising grubs?

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Basically. Use it for pretty pictures. Not actual farming.

        2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

          It wouldn't surprise me to find he is raising locusts to release on the rest of the food supply. You don't get to net-zero emissions without killing a few billion people. Starvation is always the endgame with the goddamned socialists.

    3. Idaho Bob   3 years ago

      We joke about eating bugs, but this malicious management will cause real food shortages.
      Liberal urbanites will be severely impacted, and will start wandering into the countryside looking for food. Never to be heard from again.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        I doubt most of them would know how to even get around. You might be surprised (or maybe not) at the number of people I've met from Chicago (living in the city itself) who've rarely stepped foot outside the Tri-State Tollway (I-294) other than to go to O'Hare. One of them actually thought Waukegan (county seat of Lake County, IL) was in Wisconsin.

        1. Idaho Bob   3 years ago

          Maybe not, but hungry kids are a hell of a motivator.

          My nearest city is Spokane, WA. Many of these fine citizens will crowd into Idaho lakes in summer and sport camo and blaze orange in the fall. They know just enough to think they can survive without the grocery stores.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            To be fair, quite a few of them are probably Air Force guys from Fairchild that actually do know how to do that shit.

  21. Overt   3 years ago

    "The recent events show the necessity of congressional action," argued Rep. Patrick McHenry (R–N.C.), the top Republican on the House Financial Services Committee, in a statement. "

    McHenry should fuck right off. Look at the "Heads we win, Tails you lose" bullshit that the government always pulls.

    It is a fucking catastrophe what happened here, and people should be very wary of where they put their money. Just as they should have done back in the Financia-pocalypse ~2008. But the idea that the remedy for this is more government oversight is NONSENSE. History is full of constant bank and financial institution failures. And government has done nothing to stop these- indeed, you can often draw a line directly back to government policies that led to the risky decisions that ultimately kill these companies. Madoff, Bear Sterns, Countrywide Financial, FTX- all these companies are already regulated heavily, but the government doesn't pause one moment to ask why all their regulation didn't stop this bullshit to begin with.

    This is a libertarian gut-check. When McHenry offers the faustian deal- "Just give the government some control, if you want to avoid these types of failures" the proper response is, "Fuck off. I'll take my chances with the crooks who don't have a monopoly on force."

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Classic stationary bandit.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   3 years ago

      You do know there is an alternative to both Government crooks and prive crooks, right?...Like maybe not trusting anything with "cryptocurrency" in the name and which doesn't have basis in precious metal.

      1. Overt   3 years ago

        How about just plain, Caveat Emptor. If someone is guaranteeing you double digit percentage returns, they are probably scamming you. If you have to jailbreak your currency to get it out of the country into the fucking Bahammas, maybe there is a bit of a chance that what you are doing is idiotic.

        As I noted above, these scams go far beyond Cryptocurrency. Madoff was not using Ehtereum or Bitcoin, and he bilked people of billions. Archegos Capital pretty much poisoned Credit Suisse, and it is in its final days as an independent financial institution. And that isn't because of Crypto Currency.

        Sometimes the government steps in to make you whole, sometimes they let you die. But they will always be there next week to tell you that they can totally prevent this stuff if you just give them more control. Don't let this become about crypto currency, it is (and always has been) about the government instituting a command and control economy over our financial system.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          Don’t let this become about crypto currency, it is (and always has been) about the government instituting a command and control economy over our financial system.

          And what's worse is that it's not even good old-fashioned New Deal liberalism that was largely more dedicated to mitigating incentives to mismanage assets. What they're trying to enact is an Orwell/Huxley dystopian hybrid that essentially establishes a global feudalist order, with a few well-connected elites using their commissars to enforce a one-size-fits-all socio-economic system that is wholly arbitrary and changes on a whim, with the intent of crushing anyone who doesn't comply.

          No wonder people like Musk and Trump, elites themselves who dared to step out of line, send them into such a shitfit.

      2. JFree   3 years ago

        One good insight that SBF had earlier this year re the whole crypto space was that the whole space is very light on real world use cases and heavy on hand waving.

        No surprise that is a good environment for fraud and scams.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          I commented a few months ago that I'd never sink my money into crypto because there's no way to directly control it once it gets turned into ones and zeros; you're basically at the mercy of whatever the market happens to be on a given day.

          Yeah, our paper money is shit, but at least I can still pull it out of the bank (for now) and stuff it in my mattress or something. I was never of the type who thought you needed to keep a bunch of your assets in gold and silver, but it's not hard to see why people still value it even in this modern age.

  22. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    Reason Rundown

    The powers that be know who did this, it’s just not convenient for us to know.

    “Dark ships” emerge from the shadow of the Nord Stream pipeline mystery

    Satellite monitors found 2 vessels with their trackers turned off in area of explosions.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      The plot thickens.

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      Whatever, Putin’s puppet.

    3. Nardz   3 years ago

      It was the Brits.
      It's always the Brits.
      "Our" deep state is merely their puppet.

      1. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

        Maybe = Brits. Let's see the proof (but I think it is totally plausible the Brits did it)

        The damage is done. That pipeline is gone. It will deprive Russia of European revenues. Long term, that will hurt. Short term, it is gonna suck to be in Europe this winter.

    4. Ronbback   3 years ago

      and this will be the last we hear of it and it will all become missinformation conspiracy theories

  23. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    "Cortez Masto beat Republican Adam Laxalt in a very close race."

    I guess this is the new (ab)normal. Selected races are too close to call, days pass for vote counting--and curing--and somehow the (D) candidate always wins.

    "Several elections for seats in the U.S. House of Representatives are still too close to call."

    Any predictions?

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      If the initial count is longer than 36 hours, the Republican mirage will dissipate, the fortifications will emerge and the winner will inevitably be (D).

      1. JesseAz   3 years ago

        And reason will applaud it multiple times.

        1. JasonAZ   3 years ago

          Applaud and defend. No funny business. It's just Trump's fault!!!

  24. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    '"Every election denier who sought to become the top election official in a critical battleground state lost at the polls this year, as voters roundly rejected extreme partisans who promised to restrict voting and overhaul the electoral process," reports The New York Times.'

    So what's the proper term for those who questioned results in 2016?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      Insurrectionists? Oh, wait, those were Democrats.

      1. JimboJr   3 years ago

        Media: "patriots"

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          "The Resistance"

          #NOTMYPRESIDENT #RESIST

          1. Utkonos   3 years ago

            ^^^ DING DING DING!!

  25. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    "A potted plant could beat a Trump Republican these days, writes J.D. Tuccille."

    I think J.D. misunderstood his source from Colorado. It should read "a pot plant".

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      Not to mention the fact that a NeverTrumper, Joe O'Dea, got absolutely hammered by Bennet.

      Colorado is effectively east California now; I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of GOP voters there move to Wyoming or Utah the next 5-10 years.

      1. Idaho Bob   3 years ago

        We got a huge influx of California republicans during Covid. Seeing all of the CA plates on cars always makes the locals nervous, but the last election was solid red.
        Of course we vote in person and show ID.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          GOP voters there really need to start pushing their state reps, hard, to implement DeSantis-style election laws while they have the chance. You're getting refugees now, but a similar scenario happened in Colorado, too--the state had a bunch of GOP migrants in the 80s and 90s that actually resulted in a GOP-dominated election spread for the first time in forever, before the gay millionaire mafia there started bankrolling Dem elections after Bush took office..

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        In my corner of CO, I am still amused by locals who hate either migratory Californians or Texans. We have some balance of both, but still end up with little blue town cores surrounded by purple fringes, amid red swaths.

        I am also still amused by reactions to Boebert. I hope she wins just because some of my neighbor's heads might explode.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

          I'll be the first to admit that I think Boebert is way out of her league and Tipton was far better a representative, but it's also obvious that the Denver elites and media reaction to her is largely driven by hatred of her socio-economic class rather than her personally. If she was just a bog-standard Colorado GOP standard-bearer like Tipton or Bill Owens was, you wouldn't see that level of vitriol, and they hated Owens' guts, too.

          Honestly, Boebert's biggest liability isn't her flashpoint personality, it's that she's getting a reputation in the 3rd as a disengaged media hound like AOC. That's a MAJOR mistake because of the size of the district; reps need to spend an obscene amount of time just traveling from town to town, and people will appreciate someone who takes the time to visit them and address their concerns. AOC can get away with her sped act because she's a Democrat and no one will hold her accountable for being a social media fuckoff all day long. Boebert doesn't have that advantage, so she needs to make up for it with elbow grease and ground pounding.

  26. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

    "Wooster died on November 12 after being struck by a car in a hit-and-run in Williamsburg, Virginia."

    FBI op, or some freelancer?

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      It was that rascally Mises caucus.

      1. Utkonos   3 years ago

        Oooh, don’t you just hate them to pieces?!

  27. JesseAz   3 years ago

    A look at just how much fraud covid unemployment boosters were.

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/ig-reports-historic-covid-unemployment-funds-lost-congress-investigates

  28. JesseAz   3 years ago

    More trump bashing. Less reporting on democrats threatening private companies.

    Ed Markey
    @SenMarkey
    One of your companies is under an FTC consent decree. Auto safety watchdog NHTSA is investigating another for killing people. And you’re spending your time picking fights online. Fix your companies. Or Congress will.

  29. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    Has the election been declared stolen yet?

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Poor Sarc. Nobody loves his Democrats. Makes him so defensive and angry.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

        The dishonest piece of shit is telling lies like a dishonest piece of shit. How cute.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          What lies, trollboy?
          You always make that accusation and then run away when I ask for an example.

          That you're not a Democrat? Why else would you get furious and white knight for them every time someone criticizes them?

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            Dishonest piece of shit claims that I'm furious. How cute.

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              Oh you're supermad, Sarcasmic. Rage comes with being an alcoholic.

            2. JesseAz   3 years ago

              You didnt state which lie you are referring to.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                Every word was a lie. I'm not a Democrat. I'm not defensive of Democrats. I'm not angry. I'm not furious. I don't care when they are criticized. Seriously. You guys couldn't say anything honest if someone put a gun to your head. It's almost comical.

                1. R Mac   3 years ago

                  Yep, hoes mad.

                2. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  First he said none of those, so your claim he lied is actually a lie.

                  And yes, you defend democrats often. You do it by deflecting in every article critical of them. You have never actually criticized them in those articles, instead you throw shit at walls to protect democrats.

                  I have had an open invite from you for 2 years to show 5 times you have criticized democrats. Still waiting for one. Do you find that strange?

                  On top of that you greely call others right wing and Trump cultists then act like this whiny bitch you portray here when people correctly call out your own behaviors.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    You really are good at this. As usual every single sentence is a lie. Truly amazing. I keep expecting you to slip up and tell something truthful at least once, but you never do.

                    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      "As usual every single sentence is a lie."

                      You were doing it in this very thread, you moron.

                3. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

                  Didn’t deny the alcohol problem I see.

    2. Super Scary   3 years ago

      They are somehow still counting votes nearly a week later, so we don't know yet.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        Gotcha. Got to wait for the final count. If Republicans win then The People Have Spoken. Otherwise it was election fraud. Amirite?

        1. Super Scary   3 years ago

          "Amirite?"

          No, you're not.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            How else can you know there was fraud? If you lose it was fraud. If you win then it was The Will Of The People. Right?

            1. Super Scary   3 years ago

              Fraud can be found if audits and investigations happen. If those things are road-blocked, stonewalled or not even allowed to start, fraud can't be determined.

              Again.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                From what I have observed, the only way to prove that there was no fraud is to have your team declared the winner. No amount of auditing or investigation will be good enough. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I see.

                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

                  Do you really think that protracted vote counting makes the process more secure? And makes the perception of the process more positive?

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    Is there anything other than your team being declared the winner that could get you to accept the results?

                    Honest question.

                    1. R Mac   3 years ago

                      He just asked you an honest question and you couldn’t answer it.

                    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      Sarc has to defend his teams win, so he can never admit the long counts subtract from voter confidence in elections.

                    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

                      You answer first.

                    4. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      Sarc refuses to answer, changes the subject and calls it an "honest question".
                      He's been taking Chemleft redirection lessons I see.

                2. JesseAz   3 years ago (edited)

                  You have attacked every audit beyond a simple recount. Now you demand evidence of fraud.

                  Do you realize how retarded you are?

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    Dishonest piece of shit lies some more. What specifically? Every word.

                    It really is amazing. You're incapable of saying anything truthful.

                    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      He's not lying. That's exactly what you did... right here... in this very thread.

                      Either you have the memory of a goldfish, or you somehow imagine that people can't read the earlier responses.

            2. JesseAz   3 years ago

              There is always fraud. The question is how much. And why we have week long counts that always trend democrat. Of youre not curious about this, youre happy at the results.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                Is there anything short of declaring Republicans the winner that could convince you that the outcome of an election was legit?

                How many audits and recounts would it take? Ten? A hundred? A million?

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  Yes retard. An actual audit. Not a recount. The things you have fought and attacked for 2 years.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    Nice use of the weasel word "actual." That means you won't accept an audit unless it gives the result you want. If it doesn't give the result you want then it wasn't an "actual" audit.

                    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      No, "actual" isn't a weasel word, you fucking illiterate retard.

                      In fact it's the opposite. Weasel words are attribution of anonymous authority, like "some people say", "it is thought", and "researchers believe".

                      How do you even feed yourself or breathe.

                    2. JesseAz   3 years ago

                      Add audit to the word list sarc doesn't understand.

                2. R Mac   3 years ago

                  The issue has been stated repeatedly in this thread. You’ve repeatedly ignored it.

                3. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                  Is there anything short of declaring Republicans the winner that could convince you that the outcome of an election was legit?

                  Four years ago, DeSantis nearly lost to a drug-addicted, gigolo-buying fruitcake because Brenda Snipes (a Jeb! appointee, amusingly enough) was doing her usual reindeer games in Broward County. Enough light was shed on election night ballot shenanigans by people like Marco Rubio that the counts ultimately came out in DeSantis favor.

                  After that, DeSantis forced Snipes out of office (she ultimately resigned so she could keep her pension as a reward for fucking with elections for nearly 15 years, after he tried to fire her outright) and cleaned up the election process, so that a state that epitomized election night dysfunction and horse races for 20 years, now gets called about an hour into the primetime period.

                  Arizona is basically 2000s-2010s Florida now, and I guarantee states with GOP dominance are going to start looking at DeSantis' election reforms to lock down the state like he did. One of the biggest ones will probably be ballot deadlines; get your numbers turned in by a certain time, or they ALL get invalidated (this happened to Fairfax County in VA in 2021, when they tried to stall their reporting in an effort to print enough votes to push McAullife over the top. County officials blinked when they were informed that they would lose their entire vote total if they didn't get the numbers in by a deadline).

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    A thoughtful answer. Thanks. Wish there were more of those around here.

                    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                      Also, one of the biggest takeaways from this election, I think, is how Americans are increasingly sorting their residences according to political affiliation. Red states are going to get redder, blue states bluer, which is why I believe the Dems dreams of turning Texas are effectively dead for about a generation. The state is just too appealing as a refuge for GOP voters, and all those border crossers aren't necessarily settling in the state after they come over to counterbalance the waves.

                      I also suspect a big reason that DeSantis clocked Crist so badly was due to COVID refugees from New York and New Jersey that were relieved to have an actual chance at their side winning a state-wide election for once.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

                      I know it's crossed my mind a few times, to escape Illinois for maybe Iowa, Indiana, or Ohio.

                    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

                      I know it’s crossed my mind a few times, to escape Illinois for maybe Iowa, Indiana, or Ohio.

                      I'm not kidding when I say that I fully expect to see efforts to break the states into smaller pieces in the next 20 years, if not sooner, if this national re-sorting continues like it is. Or initiatives like what the eastern Oregon counties are trying to do by joining up with Idaho. I can see southern Illinois forming an actual secession movement from Cook County and basically telling them, "Fuck off, we don't give a shit what you or the feds say, we're not dealing with your shit anymore." Or the DFW-Austin-San Antonio spine and El Paso splitting off from the rest of Texas.

                    4. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

                      sarcasmic, I live in the People's Republic of NJ. Our elections are corrupt AF. It is pretty bad.

                      I think a verifiable audit trail along with proof of ID would go a long way toward restoring trust in the process. At least, that is how I see it here in PR of NJ.

              2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                I'll take your silence to mean "No."

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  Thats because you're a fucking moron.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    You answered "No" above by using the weasel word "actual." Thanks for confirming what I thought.

                    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      the weasel word “actual.”

                      How did you become so stupid? Why do you imagine that the rest of us flunked high school English?

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word

        2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          Here in Canada we have voter ID, paper ballots and almost everyone votes in-person, and we never have counts go over 24 hours. The same with Australia and almost all of Europe.

          The only reason it happens in America is because it takes time to fill out all the fraudulent ballots needed.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            Do you want a tissue?

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              For what? You didn't read what I wrote again, did you.

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

                For America not being more like Canada. Do you know how to read?

                1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago (edited)

                  You obviously don’t. I also included Europe and Australia. But why should I be the one crying, drunky?

                  You’re the one with the Venezuela-tier elections. You should be horrified. But you’re not because you’re too stupid and biased to care.

            2. JesseAz   3 years ago

              Like I said. Happy as a claim the dems won again. Youre literally gloating after saying you had no reason to do so on Tuesday. False statement from you?

          2. Super Scary   3 years ago

            "Here in Canada we have voter ID, paper ballots and almost everyone votes in-person, and we never have counts go over 24 hours."

            Good lord, with all of that voter suppression how was anyone able to vote in Canada at all? What a nightmarish denial of voters rights.

            1. Utkonos   3 years ago

              Canada has gone literally Jim Crow!

          3. Minadin   3 years ago

            Sounds like the system we have here in Missouri.

            Paper ballots, Voter ID, and I can go to any polling place in the county to cast my votes. The printers work, consistently, and when you deposit your ballot into the counting machine (or, as one local election official put it - 'the shredder') it tallies it up right there for you. We had half a million people vote in my county last week and it took less than 2 hours to get the results.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

              Better, but (if I understand the reference to "shredder") the paper ballots should be archived.

              1. Minadin   3 years ago

                Oh, I'm 99% sure that he was joking.

                Ok, maybe more like 95%.

            2. mtrueman   3 years ago

              Who's counting the votes? Who's watching those who count the votes? I suspect that run-of-the-mill government employees will do a better job than political appointees who are too partisan for my taste.

              "We had half a million people vote in my county last week and it took less than 2 hours to get the results."

              I understand some questionable votes take time, as much as a week, to verify. Are there no questionable votes among the half million? Perhaps if the difference in counted votes is large enough, the questionable votes may be discarded as irrelevant.

              1. Minadin   3 years ago

                You take your paper ballot that you filled out yourself and run it through the scanning device that counts them.

                So, in a manner of speaking, everyone counts their own ballot.

              2. CE   3 years ago

                Questionable ballots should be discarded, of course. It only takes a minute.

    3. JesseAz   3 years ago

      I remember when he said he wasn't happy nor was he going to gloat. Yet here sarc is. No criticism of the continuing bad policies. Just trying to own his enemies.

      Ignore the weeks long counting, the abnormal nature of it, the one sided changes in races, the continued questions on voter validation. He got his win. Democrats for at least 2 more years. Such a happy little bee.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        Ah yes. The typical "You didn't say anything about this, so I'm going to say what you think" screed from JesseAZ.

        *yawn*

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          Literally what wasn't said. But you have the reading comprehension of a toddler.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

            It literally is what you said. Keep on gaslighting though. If it wasn't for lies you'd have nothing to say.

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago (edited)

              How is it what he said?

              Seriously Sarcasmic, you’re too lazy and stupid to try and get away with being this dishonest.

    4. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      The commentariat is still warming up to it:

      https://reason.com/2022/11/14/bankrupt-crypto-exchange-ftx-under-investigation/?comments=true#comment-9792158

  30. A Cynical Asshole   3 years ago

    The cryptocurrency exchange FTX has filed for bankruptcy amid revelations that it lent billions in customer assets to an affiliated trading firm called Alameda Research. Now its owner—a prominent Democratic donor and supporter of cryptocurrency regulation—is reportedly under criminal investigation.

    My guess is he thought that if he donated bribed the Democratic party enough and mouthed the right pro-regulation words he would be left alone.

    If I were a betting man I'd wager that he'll most likely get a slight slap on the wrist, a small fine, and have to pay some more bribes.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      They have to keep the names and faces of those involved in the money laundering scheme hidden from public view.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Don't worry. At some point Hunter will out himself, intentionally or not.

    2. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      Someone siphoned off 600 million from FTX over the weekend. Oh. Did I say siphoned? I meant hacked.

  31. mad.casual   3 years ago

    "Every election denier who sought to become the top election official in a critical battleground state lost at the polls this year, as voters roundly rejected extreme partisans who promised to restrict voting and overhaul the electoral process," reports The New York Times.

    This is the narrative.

    Just like in 2020, even if you don't know or think conclusively the election was stolen the meta-refusal is creepy AF:

    Out: Most secure election ever! Haters gonna hate.
    In: Most secure election ever! Anyone who dared criticize, lost.

  32. Sevo   3 years ago

    "...Earlier this year, a Fortune magazine headline said he "has been called the next Warren Buffett."..."

    Well, he is a D insider, and apparently a hypocrite, so there's that.

    1. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      It's pronounced Boo-Fay.

  33. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1592134745898770432?t=xeTNBdVihG9J-izt561fzA&s=19

    Good news

    You are the experiment

    [Link]

  34. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1592179254602924033?t=LLYnke4C7ndBX3xqP7Z3Gg&s=19

    NEW - No longer just red stripes. United States redesigns its crest with rainbow colors ahead of World Cup in Qatar.

    It's now a blue "USA" with LGBTQ+ color stripes below.

    [Link]

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      LOL @ people with Ukraine flag getting uppity with zero self-awareness.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      They better have at least two trans players on the field, and the guy with one leg.

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        The proper assortment of skin colors is the most important thing

        1. Utkonos   3 years ago

          Is that the final adjustment? Once the resolution is passed, there’s no more moving goalposts!

  35. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/LPNational/status/1592160504600227840?t=c72JsZEu5-sh8P3iHGQMBQ&s=19

    [Meme]

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      Ugh, the LP is supposed to be above these partisan political squabbles and stick to medical weed and sex workers.

  36. DeniceLamb   3 years ago (edited)

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  37. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    the first openly gay non-incumbent Republican

    We're gonna need some more firsts pretty soon, we're running out.

    I can see it now, Election 2088, the first native-american one-legged detransitioner with a lisp was elected to congress!

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      Aren't you adorable, expecting "elections" will still be around in 2088.

    2. Dillinger   3 years ago

      >>the first native-american one-legged detransitioner

      Johnson Co., KS has something almost that since 2018

      1. Minadin   3 years ago

        Lenexa, you've changed.

    3. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      Does "openly gay" mean loose sphincter?

  38. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1592178760698265603?t=kyuvN7F8oOwgjaOnmbsjDQ&s=19

    This is one of those headlines you have to read a few times bc it doesn't seem possible and yet here we are

    Maricopa election officials launched PAC in 2021 to stop MAGA candidates

    [Link]

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      Huh, how about that--the people responsible for reporting the vote totals have a conflict of interest in who will take the seat.

      Why should Arizona GOP voters trust these people again?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

        Because their betters told them to. Duh.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

          Isn't that what we always hear from Artie?

    2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Hey Sarcasmic, White Mike!

      Can I hear you guy's insights on this one?

  39. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/theconvocouch/status/1592148401797632005?t=rqMap4lxV45qwyZQvCxULQ&s=19

    Turkish Interior Minister Süleyman Soylu on attack in Istanbul: “We know how this event was coordinated. We know where this is coordinated from. We know the message given to us.We do not accept the condolences of the American ambassador,we reject them"

    [Video]

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      So, no Biden-Erdogan bromance?

      (and no deals for Hunter in Turkey?)

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

        They probably asked for 11% instead of the usual 10% and got told to get bent.

  40. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/martyrmade/status/1591936082547183616?t=k-699S2bNB1mUqYeMuu_rQ&s=19

    The idea that Republicans can compete by trying to mount their own ballot harvesting operations in cities where the other side routinely calls out mobs to loot and burn, and where Republicans can't identify themselves without risking a physical attack, is laughable.

  41. Winston in Wonderland   3 years ago

    Reason spilled a lot of ink promoting Cryptocurrency. Perhaps some introspection, and an explanation to subscribers, is in order.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago (edited)

      *shrug*

      One could argue that crypto (in this case, I’m primarily referring to BTC because I can’t speak to the other 40,000 (and growing infinitely) variants)) is not the problem. However, the intermediary businesses that seem to exist to *checks notes* support crypto are definitely a problem. So I would agree that Reason should have some introspection about the crypto space in general.

      1. mtrueman   3 years ago

        Currency comes down to credit or trust. Automating trust, which is the goal of cryptocurrency, is a lot trickier than we imagined.

      2. Winston in Wonderland   3 years ago

        I think that most of the folks making such silly arguments are attempting to find some poor sap willing to buy crypto.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

          My favorite part of the whole thing, honestly, is all the crypto nerd websites with 5 star reviews of FTX that now have "editors notes" slapped underneath the 5 star ratings.

          El... oh... el.

  42. Dillinger   3 years ago

    >>Now its owner—a prominent Democratic donor and supporter of cryptocurrency regulation—is reportedly under criminal investigation.

    right. post-election. ask better questions

  43. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    • "Donald Trump's attorneys filed a lawsuit seeking to block the House January 6 select committee's subpoena demanding testimony in the investigation into Capitol attack," reports The Guardian.

    Still using the NewSpeak, I see.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      By next year the average American and Brit will conflate Trump's attack on the Capitol and Putin's attack on Kiev, and fuse the same imagery of missile explosions and dead bodies in the street.

  44. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    Dave Chappelle killed on SNL.

    Chappelle shared that for many working-class Americans struggling to makes end meet, Trump’s “honesty” in revealing that the rich and powerful have been taking full advantage of a system designed for their benefit only enhanced his stature.
    Now, we can debate all day why people really “love” Trump. Was it for the reasons Chappelle suggested? Or was it that, for some, there is a perverse appeal in his bigotry and defense of white nationalists? Is it his “owning the libs”? His tax cuts that greatly favored the wealthy? It may be a mix of all those reasons — or entirely different ones. But there’s no disputing that in polls taken before last week’s election, Trump was far and away the top choice of Republicans to be their 2024 presidential nominee.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/13/opinions/dave-chappelle-trump-base-snl-obeidallah/index.html

    Chappelle has become our best pundit on political culture and SJWs.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

      There’s another deeply concerning reason why Trump’s support will not simply evaporate. As historian and expert on autocracy Ruth Ben-Ghiat explained in a 2021 interview, Trump is an authoritarian leader who has developed a cult-like following. Trump has “followed the authoritarian playbook with propaganda, with corruption, with incitements to violence,” she said. This makes Trump’s bond with his supporters unlike anything we are accustomed to seeing in American politics.

      Trump-Walker 2024!

      1. Sevo   3 years ago

        turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled pile of shit, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        1. raspberrydinners   3 years ago

          Get new material you snowflake.

      2. CE   3 years ago

        I think an "authoritarian playbook, propaganda, corruption, and incitements to violence" are someone's playbook, and it's not exactly something we're unaccustomed to in American politics, having seen it since 2020 at least from the ruling party.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      This isn't some new revelation from Chappelle; he commented on it in 2016 when Trump blatantly admitted that, as a rich person, he takes advantage of every tax break and loophole he can to avoid paying taxes. Chappelle said that Trump might as well have whipped out is his Illumanit membership card when he said that.

      1. BYODB   3 years ago (edited)

        It might be a revelation to the resident retards here that literally every person with money does exactly the same thing, including Warren Buffet.

        At least with most rich people they’re honest about that, but the likes of Warren Buffet are a special breed that demands higher taxes while still doing everything possible to reduce their own tax burden instead of writing a check to the government of their own free will.

        There is literally nothing stopping someone from giving more to the government, yet somehow these ‘rich’ people who demands they pay more never do this. Curious.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago (edited)

          the likes of Warren Buffet are a special breed that demands higher taxes while still doing everything possible to reduce their own tax burden instead of writing a check to the government of their own free will.

          I think he actually did write a check one year because people were dunking on him hard on Twitter for that very reason. Obviously, he didn't make a habit of it.

        2. mtrueman   3 years ago

          "including Warren Buffet. "

          No, he hires tax accountants to do it for him.

          "yet somehow these ‘rich’ people who demands they pay more never do this. Curious."

          Many people, rich and poor, donate money and time to charity, anonymously. If they do so, you wouldn't know.

          1. CE   3 years ago

            But they're demanding that everyone donate more to the government. When they could already do so themselves just by writing a check. Except they don't write the check.

        3. raspberrydinners   3 years ago

          There's no fucking winning with you cretins.

          Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

          Heaven forbid a rich person call for higher taxes on themselves. They're dishonest if they play by the rules of the game as it stands huh?

          I'm reminded of Russell Brand- “When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality.”

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

            Heaven forbid a rich person call for higher taxes on themselves. They’re dishonest if they play by the rules of the game as it stands huh?

            On the contrary, I'm all for taxing rich Democrats until their amholes bleed. A 95% surtax on Hollywood ticket revenues and Silicon Valley venture capital would be a good start.

            I’m reminded of Russell Brand

            LOL, if you think Russel Brand is one of you guys still, you haven't really been listening to him lately.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

              That gives me an idea. How about voters pay the tax rates their preferred candidates support, whether the candidates win or lose?

              1. Ignore me!   3 years ago

                Seconded.

  45. jdgalt1   3 years ago

    I don't think the last sentence is correct. Lindsey Graham is a sitting Republican senator who is gay.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

      I thought Lindsey Graham's preferred pronouns were "asshole/fucker".

      1. Dillinger   3 years ago

        is Warmonger a pronoun?

        1. Utkonos   3 years ago

          PSSST—-You’re thinking of Whoremonger.

  46. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

    ”Every election denier who sought to become the top election official in a critical battleground state lost

    Including Abrams

    1. Dillinger   3 years ago

      especially Abrams

  47. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    I don’t care if Ron DeSantis is the nominee.
    I don’t care if Donald Trump is the nominee.
    I don’t care if the ghost of George Washington is the nominee.
    If we have mail-in voting & ballot harvesting, Joe Biden is going to win in 2024.
    Take it to the bank and cash it.

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      LOL @ people talking about how hard it is for rural people and disabled people to vote... on Twitter.

      We should keep every voting machine hooked up to a dial up modem for two months either side of the election just in case someone with a broken hip in rural Utah can only vote via fax machine.

  48. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago (edited)

    Off Topic:

    What am I not getting about how epic The Band supposedly was? Was it being Dylan’s rock and roll band? Martin Scorcese acts like Robbie Robertson is Layne Staley and Levon Helm is Chris Cornell

    They have 2 songs. Cripple Creek and their ACW vignette. Why am I underwhelmed?

    1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

      Or is it really about loving Canadian Bluegrass/Folk and I am too young to have experienced it?

    2. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

      I'd say you have more or less accurately assessed their level of epic-ness. They were a bunch of musically-talented journeymen rock musicians who had three, not two, catchy songs.

      Let Scorcese have his boomer nostalgia.

      1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        Based upon their ages, you're spot on about it being a boomer thing. But then Rob Halford is as old as my mom and he presumably still rocks

        What was the third song? "The Weight"

        1. Mike Laursen   3 years ago

          The Weight
          Up on Cripple Creek
          The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down

          AFAIK, hey don’t have any other songs that have memorable hooks or pop song structure.

          1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

            They sound like a less entertaining version of Grateful Dead.

            Also, why doesn't CCR enjoy more regard than The Band? People can't pronounce Lodi?

    3. Zeb   3 years ago

      I think their first two albums are quite brilliant. No accounting for taste.

      1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        Until I was recently disabused I thought Whispering Pines was a cover of the Johnny Horton song. Boy. was I wrong.

    4. Zeb   3 years ago

      I think Chris Cornell is way overrated. Different people impressed by different things.

      1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

        What do you think is overrated? He and Layne Staley are my favorite vocalists, but Cornell, especially has such a visceral sound.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        The Big Five of the grunge era singers--Cobain, Cornell, Vedder, Wieland, and Staley-- have an outsized reputation primarily because of the unique historical nexus they occupied. In reality, none of them were GREAT, but Cornell was the best of them because he was probably the last of rock's upper-register wailers with any pop culture impact over an extended period of time, thanks to hooking up with the RATM guys for Audioslave. Plus, I think Soundgarden's catalog holds up better over time because they were getting attention before the grunge scene really took off nationally and "Superunknown" went ballistic.

        1. Dillinger   3 years ago

          Layne was in a league by himself. Nobody could touch Alice (or Mad Season). mho.

          1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

            Mad Season is genius. The entire album....agree 100%

        2. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

          I would say Staley was great based on how Alice In Chains sounds without him and then there is Mad Season.

          Above is a great album and kind of overlooked. Far better than Temple Of The Dog or any 'superband' for that matter

        3. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

          Superunknown and Dirt are the high water mark for the Seattle phase of music epochs. I would even go as far as to say Facelift is better than any Pearl Jam album

    5. Dillinger   3 years ago

      Levon Helm left everything on stage everywhere he went. The depth of the sorrow felt by the guy singing The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down is palpable. The Shape I'm In is a hoot. I could do more ...

      Go see a Black Crowes show they carry the spirit

    6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 years ago

      A fan of The Band, and a fan of The Last Waltz (maybe more than most of The Band's music).

  49. raspberrydinners   3 years ago

    A haven of criminals finds more victims? Color me surprised.

    Cryptocurrency has no real world purpose except wild speculation and brazen criminality. If you're dumb enough to get into it then your eventual fleecing will come as no surprise.

    1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

      the resident clown speaks again. Keep it up you're doing great.

  50. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

    In other news....Kherson evacuated by Russian troops. The question is why? Is it really just shortening logistics lines? Seems odd, since Putin himself just declared Kherson a part of Russia....and they just evac'ed out.

    How long before Crimea is bombarded directly by Ukraine?

    1. This Is The Zodiac Speaking   3 years ago

      Lord Cardigan isn't coming to save them

    2. JeremyR   3 years ago

      They also looted the Kherson Zoo before retreating. Including taking a raccoon.

      The Ukraine invasion has shown that Russians are just plain evil. Every single 80s jingoistic action movie that portrayed them as bad guys was actually understating things.

      1. I, Woodchipper   3 years ago

        you watch to much MSM

  51. sowell_man   3 years ago

    I'm confused, isn't this just called "fractional reserve banking"? 🙂

    1. CE   3 years ago

      only when banks do it

  52. Libertariantranslator   3 years ago

    You don't have to have read Cryptonomicon to understand that looter governments and their entrenched political parties fear and loathe cryptocurrency just as they fear and loathe libertarian political parties. So it takes a special kind of disability to be surprised that those same force-initiating looters will stop at nothing to entrap and sabotage crypto just as they infiltrate and corrupt libertarian parties at every opportunity. We should expect no less, and I'd be doing those same things if I were a committed altruist looter.

  53. RandyGoldy   3 years ago

    I'm surprised at how easy it is now to entice people to buy something. Even air can be sold for a lot of money if you are familiar with the basics of marketing. Now cryptomarketing is also blooming. I think that many people would be interested in making a suitable blockchain project on the wave of hype, from which it would be more useful. To do this, I advise you to read about solus b company. These specialists will be able to help you in the implementation of a project of any complexity and will provide any support during the development process. This is the main thing for me. I think it will be interesting for you to try this too.

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