Chase Oliver, Georgia Senate Race Spoiler: 'You Can't Spoil What's Already Rotten'
As the race that may decide control of the Senate heads to a runoff, the third-party candidate is fielding criticism from both sides that he spoiled the race.

The Georgia Senate race, one of the most consequential races of the 2022 midterm elections, will go to a runoff. Proponents of the two-party system blame Libertarian Party candidate Chase Oliver for siphoning off votes that would've otherwise contributed to a conclusive victory for incumbent Democratic Sen. Raphael Warnock or Republican candidate and former football star Herschel Walker.
Oliver received just over 2 percent of the vote; neither Walker nor Warnock exceeded the 50 percent threshold required to declare victory. Does that make Oliver a spoiler? "You can't spoil what's already rotten," he tells Reason.
"Both sides are currently blaming me for their candidate not getting over 50 percent, and not the fact that neither of their candidates could speak to over 50 percent of the electorate and get their votes."
On Election Night, Oliver retweeted multiple tweets in which Republican and Democratic voters accused him of forcing their respective candidates into a runoff.
To those voters, Oliver says, "I'm not helping one candidate or the other, because we have runoffs here in Georgia so I can't really 'spoil.' All I can do is provide voters a choice, and if nobody gets over 50 percent, they get to pick the lesser of two evils."
Warnock won his seat in a January 2021 runoff, as he and Sen. Jon Ossoff became the first two Democrats elected to the Senate from Georgia in 20 years. Now, Warnock will face Walker in a December runoff.
Walker ran considerably behind Republican Gov. Brian Kemp, who ran for reelection in a rematch against his 2018 opponent, Stacey Abrams. Despite barely squeaking out a majority for his first term, Kemp prevailed Tuesday by over 8 percentage points. Walker, meanwhile, trailed Warnock by just under a point.
In the runoff, Oliver's 81,000 voters will be up for grabs. (On Election Night, Warnock led Walker by less than half that amount.) And Oliver still plans to be involved in the process: "I will be reaching out to both campaigns to host a forum, where they can come speak long-form to libertarian, independent voters and seek to earn their vote if they so choose.
"I think it's still a very wide-open race for this runoff campaign, and I think that should really implore both the major-party candidates to start reaching out and speaking to libertarian voters and their values, because that's how they're going to win this race."
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At this point, if he's spoiling anyone, it appears to be the incumbent Democrat.
Ok, fess up, which CRT-defending commenter is Chase Oliver?
ChemTard? Mike Liarson? Or...
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To be fair, Oliver says he no longer supports “single payer”… so I guess everyone grows up eventually.
edit: Um, if you’re a REAL libertarian, of COURSE you’re more “classically liberal” than the Democrat. Where’s this kid been napping since the early 90s?
>>Former Democrat actually who left when the wars never ended
somebody failed Warmonger (D) 101
“Former Democrat actually who left when the wars never ended and Gitmo didn’t close.”
You can see why Reason likes him. "Former Democrat."
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“It surprises a lot of people when they realize I am pushing Warnock on issues like criminal justice, immigration, and the drug war,” he wrote."
LMAO! This nutjob thinks Warnock gives 2 shits what he thinks.
It surprises a lot of people when they realize I am pushing Warnock
No wonder Reason's giving him a puff piece.
It's better than you puffing on Donald Trump for the past 7 years.
Nope. The real reason is to push my patented frisbee Grabber Of Pussy Crybaby Tears Collector. Slide the collector on a frosted mug under the face of a sobbing mystical prohibitionist and collect a mugful of delicious tears. Ask Nick Sarwark!
Warnock is the scummiest of the scum. Warnock is a slum lord. The apartments he runs is worse than any third world block of flats. Dead bodies left for days, elevators that don't work,the list goes on and on.
Surprised he didn't get the GOP nomination therefore.
I hope he didn't poach or "steal" lefty votes - that would mean that in the runoff these voters would go to Warnock.
Assume they will.
Fulton will find the votes needed, regardless of whether they were cast or not
This. A long as they leave Kemp in charge, the state republicans don’t seem to care what kind of corruption exists in Fulton.
More likely, those voters will stay home for the runoff.
“ending cash bail”
Mend it, don't end it.
The right to bail in noncapital cases is a proud part of America's heritage of freedom.
Congress limited this right in 1984 (when else?), and I guess some "law-n-order" states have done the same.
But now the threat to the right to bail comes from the lefty "reformers" who want to divide defendants into two classes (a) turned loose without any provision for the protection of the public or (b) kept in prison until trial, even if they can afford bail.
Members of category (a) will include street thugs whose victims lack political influence.
Members of category (b) will include those against whom the ruling class has some sort of vendetta.
Make bail easier for the poor to pay, but have them pay *something* so they have a stake in showing up for their trial.
It's too bad that libertarians are swallowing this abolish-bail codswallop.
Radical ideas offered forthwith:
We must PUNISH people MORE AND MORE for scratching their butts, without a license!!! And then make them PAY OUT OF THEIR ASSES to stay out of jail, while awaiting their trial! Otherwise, the poor might get ONTO OUR YARDS!!! Stay OFF of my yard, ye low-life punks! Else I might TURN YE IN, like the Karen that I am, for BLOWING UPON A CHEAP PLASTIC FLUTE, w/o permission!!!
To find precise details on what NOT to do, to avoid the flute police, please see http://www.churchofsqrls.com/DONT_DO_THIS/ … This has been a pubic service, courtesy of the Church of SQRLS!
I wish scratching their butts without a license is what we were arresting people for.
Oh wait, you're on to something, we ARE arresting people for scratching their butts without a license. If I try to build a gazebo in my backyard, I've got permits and building inspectors up my ass for two years... but if I want to stand up a tent encampment in a city park and shit all over the sidewalk and throw dirty needles all over the place, it's all criminal justice/bail reform/abolish from horizon to horizon.
I wish that it were NOT true, butt I am sad to say, what you say is too true!!!
https://reason.com/2022/08/23/gavin-newsom-vetoes-bill-legalizing-safe-consumption-sites-in-3-california-cities/?comments=true#comment-9666277
Skimming all of the above comments, I generally agree with them.
My summary from what I understand: WTF?!? What the BLOODY fuck??!! Dirt-dwelling bottom-sucking scum can buy and sell poisons, and be supported by Government Almighty "helping" them... Heroin junkies and their supporters / suppliers / sellers operating in broad daylight, in public (Newsom, good job on this one with your veto)... And then white-coated doctors with fancy degrees and licenses, and big pharma companies... Are BUSTED for selling clean, dose-controlled pills for people in horrible pain?!?! What the ever-loving FUCK, here, people?!?!?! Can we reach a MIDDLE ground, and allow a balanced FREE market to operate?
Are you trying to build a gazebo in your back yard?
I wish I had a gazebo.
You nailed it. Cash bail was originally conceived as a protection for innocent people who might be falsely accused.
If this becomes widespread, prosecutors will blow off trials entirely and just use lengthy pre-trial detention as the punishment for the cases they care about.
There are a lot of reforms that could be made, but the most important one is to put teeth into the requirement for a speedy trial. Shorter and stricter deadlines.
By cash bail they generally mean relative to economic status which includes low amounts to none for even violent criminals.
Bqil is used as a means to get those charged to appear for trial. Money is returned when they appear. What so you think is the incentive to appear for no bail?
Just to be clear, I'm not in favor of the "no cash bail" proposals, for the reasons The Margrave outlines. Just because I'm yanking your chain about Chase Oliver doesn't mean I'm on the wrong side of everything.
Ummm... that was my first post in the thread.
It's working out very well for Chicago and soon the entire state will benefit from recently passed legislation.
(sarc alert)
So... speedy trial is a new idea in American jurisprudence? Something The Kleptocracy is only now finding out about?
" this point, if he’s spoiling anyone, it appears to be the incumbent Democrat."
You'd think that, but at least one non leftist commenter here said he voted for the libertarian because Walker was icky.
Some libertarians are extremely partisan.
You’re saying the exact same thing Diane said.
If that person did not vote for the libertarian, they would have voted for Warnock. Oliver’s presence “stole” the vote from Warnock.
I hope you haven’t been accusing people of spoiling without even understanding what the word means.
I said non leftist, unlike you.
Try asking someone what the words you're replying to mean next time.
Spoiling means competing with The Kleptocracy for votes, thus forcing the looters to repeal bad laws.
Sounds like a pretty standard libertarian, except for the lefty "single payer healthcare" plan (we know who the single payer ends up being, the taxpayer). And no one who is worried about arbitrary state power should want to do away with cash bail -- why give a government judge the power to detain you when you can buy your way out before trial?
Advocacy of “single payer healthcare” does not appear anywhere on Chase Oliver's campaign site.
Chase Oliver's campaign is a pretty standard 80s-90s LP rhetoric.
I've been out all day. Has democracy ended yet?
saved by a stroke victim and an unethical secretary of state.
The R's chose a celebrity endorsed by a fame queen. Too bad for PA.
I've been saying it, the Rs really fucked up if they couldn't put forth a candidate able to beat the stroke victim.
But they do that. They're not Democrats, so I vote for them often, but goddamn can the Republicans snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It's uncanny.
the legacy of 1992 will never die.
"they couldn’t put forth a candidate able to beat the stroke victim."
He probably did, but that's not good enough. In Pennsylvania a GOP candidate has got to be able to beat the institutional fudge factor too. Oz failed to do that.
Go Steelers! wtf
The only reason Trump won was because Hillary was on the ballot. Two most hated candidates this century, so it came down to a tossup. One of them still claims her victory was stolen, and the other whines his vote total was actually higher. We dodged a bullet with one and got a shiv with the other.
But yeah, both parties love to put up candidates to lose for them.
Whitmer and Newsome were reelected, so apparently voters don't value freedom, but democracy still stands. The only good news is they can't choose each other as running mates in the Presidential race in 2024, and only one of them can get Abrams. The other will have to settle for Beto.
The good folks of Penn also voted for and elected a dead man. The state house will go back to business as usual.
Not just yet. It will get to be that way when Der TrumpfenFuhrer gets His Way, and implements The TrumptatorShit! Hang tight! All will be revealed SOON!!!
“Under Der TrumpfenFuher, the “R” party will NOT rest until it is the ONLY party!”
Why is it?
If you need proof of what I say, read https://reason.com/2020/12/20/desperate-to-stop-biden-from-taking-office-trump-suggests-military-intervention-voting-machine-seizures-and-appointing-sidney-powell-to-investigate-her-own-fraud-claims/ Desperate To Stop Biden From Taking Office, Trump Suggests Military Intervention, Voting Machine Seizures, and Appointing Sidney Powell To Investigate Her Own Fraud Claims
Trump flunkies want to use martial law to hold new elections in swing states that didn’t vote Trump. Use the military to force a do-over where the people didn’t vote for Trump like they were supposed to. Give them a second bite at the apple.
And there will be endless do-overs till these wayward slobs do things the RIGHT way, and vote for Der TrumpfenFuhrer!
Those states who voted for Der TrumpfenFuhrer? Texas, for instance? And now that time has gone by, and millions of Texans have seen yet MORE of the “true stripes” of the Trumptatorshit… And they voted for Trump, but are SOOOO disgusted by now, they want to vote differently by now… Do THEY get a do-over?
Let’s selectively re-play this game till the Trumptatorshit lasts forever!
The ONLY way that states that DID vote for the continuation of the Trumptatorshit, will get a re-vote, to make it all “fair” to people who’ve changed their minds, by now, or who were excluded from voting by “R” machinations or being too busy or sick that day, to vote… The ONLY way that voters in THESE states will get a “second bite at the apple”, is to make up utterly fantastical LIES about the “R” party’s cheating, collusion with Lizard Men, etc.!
If the Lizard Men stole it last time, what will keep them from stealing it the next time around?
What we are CLEARLY evolving towards here, is NOT election wins by the most votes or even electoral college votes, it is “WINNING” by “He who whines and cries and makes up lies, the most”!
WHY, oh WHY might it be, that people who don’t like the history of 1-party states, are afraid to vote “R” any more?
Have you considered kicking back in a sanitarium for a while?
Ask him about the validity of psychiatry if you really want to hear an angry rant.
SQRLSY, what is your WPM? You always type out these huge, long screeds that a grand majority (or everyone, probably) doesn't bother to read because you come off as legitimately schizophrenic and crazy.
Unless you are cruising at like 60 or 70 words a minute, you are wasting a fantastic amount of time just repeating stuff that no one reads and writes off as the scribblings of a mad man.
He cuts and pastes a lot.
He eats most of the paste.
It's all about derailing the thread, man. You don't have to make sense when all you want to do is dissemble, deflect or distract.
I have coined a label for this specific fallacious tactic: "the pants-shitter's veto". The point is to metaphorically walk into the middle of a conversation and shit your pants so badly that everyone flees in genuine terror of getting something on them. SQRLFKR has it perfected, but Jeffy is giving him a run for his money these days.
It’s all about derailing the thread, man."
This. If you can't win the argument make the thread unreadable.
Someone famous once implored you to "flood the zone with..."
What was it again? Scato, help me out here.
Yes, you should know about flooding the zone there Shrike.
I believe the saying is, "if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullshit."
That happened in 1933. The brown version of Orange Hitler made sure the Religious party had no competition and could expel foreigners, rob citizens, deport foreigners, exterminate Jews and enforce laws making production and trade into felonies, like Herbert Hoover before them.
“….. expel foreigners…… deport foreigners…”
Yes, we get it, hank. They kicked them out. Twice. But the real question is, did the girl bullying pussy grabbing mystical Prohibitionists pants them on the way out da country?
Cuz that would be kinda funny.
Democrats are crowing that they may yet get that chance.
Walker was a tremendously flawed candidate so blaming the libertarian here for causing the runoff is pretty weak sauce. Does anyone doubt if Brian Kemp or at least someone without Walker's baggage was on the ballot for the U.S. Senate they would've won 50% of the vote? I'm skeptical of Third Party candidates and their involvement in major statewide elections like this one, but no one can be blamed for this run-off other than Walker.
Is Walker smart enough to decide if DeSantis or Donny should be the one asked to come to Georgia and campaign for him?
Walker has been close friends with Trump since the he was drafted by Trump's pro football team in the 80s.
Maybe both will make an appearance.
Excellent point. Even if Walker’s not that smart, he’s got handlers. Their decision on Ron vs Don will be the first big test case on what direction the Republicans are going to take after this.
Why not both? Trump is being sparky, but they're not exactly mortal enemies.
Since it's so important to control the Senate bring Bush in to woo the neocons too.
What do you mean Ron OR Don?
OR?
Has everyone forgotten that Ron's a MAGA Republican? That it was Don who pushed him over the top in the gubernatorial race in 2018?
Of course you have. Fighting to disbelieve the media is a perpetual struggle.
Walker was a tremendously flawed candidate so blaming the libertarian here for causing the runoff is pretty weak sauce
No one's blaming the libertarian who caused the runoff--because a libertarian didn't cause the runoff. A Democrat posing as a libertarian did.
However, we ARE blaming the so-called 'libertarians' who fell for or are falling for it.
"However, we ARE blaming the so-called ‘libertarians’ who fell for or are falling for it."
Why? The biggest block of voters who "caused" this run-off would appear to be Brian Kemp voters who didn't vote for Walker:
Raphael Warnock
Democratic Party
49.4%
1,941,502
Herschel Walker
Republican Party
48.5%
1,906,254
Chase Oliver
Libertarian Party
2.1%
81,175
Brian Kemp
Republican Party
53.4%
2,109,113
Stacey Abrams
Democratic Party
45.8%
1,809,525
Shane Hazel
Libertarian Party
0.7%
28,074
The difference between Kemp's vote total and Walker's vote total appears to be 202, 859 votes. Oliver got about 81,175 votes many of whom, as a few commenters have pointed out, likely would've voted for Warnock or not voted at all.
If Walker had won over all of Kemp's voters to his side we wouldn't be having this conversation today. But my point isn't for you to attack Kemp Republican or Independent voters who didn't vote for Walker either. Criticizing or attacking voters is useless. Walker failed to convince Kemp voters to fully back him over Warnock and Oliver. That's on Walker.
" In the runoff, Oliver's 81,000 voters will be up for grabs. "
Not necessarily. Some Oliver voters may be unwilling to vote for any Republican or Democratic candidate.
This post doesn't contain any frothing-at-the-mouth insults.
Someone else is using Kirkland's computer.
Kirkland, are you in trouble? If you are, type one of the following code words: "clingers," "can't keep up," "replacement," "betters," "progress."
Asshole bigot took his meds.
Now if we could just get him to finish the rest of the bottle.
I certainly am. Whoring after looters as if there were an important difference between them is dumb and debases the law-changing clout of libertarian spoiler votes. Spoiling is the act of causing religious nazis and officious East German Democrats to cry, whine, pout, screech, bite carpets, froth and delete the most flyblown coercion planks from their moronic platforms in hopes of someday getting a hand in the till.
R: 50% bad, 49.9% chance to win
D: 100% bad, 50% chance to win
L: 0% bad, 0.01% chance to win
Libertarian voter: "both R & D are bad, so I'll vote L even though no chance to win."
6 months later: "Damn it, I wish things were 50% less bad!"
Golfos: 50% violent and murderous. Plata o Plomo.
Zetas: 100% violent and murderous. Plomo y Mas Plomo.
Nardz: I have to support the Sinaloas!
I'm sorry you dont understand expected values or how to calculate them.
Stupid sumbitch is warm and cuddly with Biden since there are no more mean tweets.
It was a typo, not an expected value error. I meant to say Nardz would support the Golfos.
Satisfied?
You and Nardz are doing a great job on convincing Oliver voters to vote for Walker. Definitely focus on accusations of sexual misfunction and math incompetence rather than getting Walker to make some libertarian concessions, or even just pretend to listen to some Oliver voters.
BTW, you’ll be happy to know I teach prob and stats for telecomm engineers. We need the results to make your smart phone work, not just to make dumb political arguments. A more serious mathematical development would be as follows:
Republican liberty value: -50. Chance 49.9% Democrat liberty value: -200. Chance 49.9% Libertarian liberty value: +100. Chance 0.2% Expected value: about -124.
Hower the real problems are that (a) you and Nardz don’t understand the difference between expected value versus the incremental effect of a person’s vote on the expected value, and (b) you’re calculating an expected value for a result that is already known. The incremental effect of an L vote on the expected liberty value depends strongly on how close the R and D votes are.
You didn’t know any of that.
Married men: R +20
Single men: R +7
Married women: R +14
Single women: D +37
This is what it all came down to. The most entitled, unhappy, resentful population in our country overwhelmingly voted for Daddy Gov.
Oh good, they'll put AOC in the White House in two years. Tee hee.
Men who think they're women: D + 100
"Single women: D +37"
I wonder if the psychological effects of the pill play into it.
Probably not. These are the unmarried women who use abortion as birth control; they most likely don't use the pill. Married women do use the pill, but went R +14.
The life of Julia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqBjXP8RKho
No college degree: R+34%
White college grad: D+3%
Do the Libertarians run whoever shows up?
Actually, yes, and feel free to step up.
If you are even marginally more libertarian than not, your mental illness is not very severe, and you are open to contesting an otherwise uncontested office, most state/county LPs will find a slot for you and give you whatever token logistical support they can (e.g. help get all the right papers filed, maybe set up a website. Don’t expect any cash.)
And that’s not just Libertarians. It applies to the Republican and Democrats anywhere they’re down more than 65-35. Not many people who already have a political resume, name recognition and donor infrastructure want to run when they know they’re unlikely to win.
In Mass. about 20 years ago, the GOP ran a guy against Ted Kennedy who had a reputation for exposing himself, the libertarian candidate, Carla Howell, actually did better than he did, getting more than 20% of the vote.
Like the Ds and Rs have high standards for who they nominate.
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Not a problem, just go do the runoff as Georgia election law mandates.
Only this time the Repub voters shouldn't stay home out of spite. That wasn't a good plan.
It's also not what happened, but keep simping for vote by mail fraud.
Just donate to candidates like Oliver. His votes sprang from donations at the rate of 10¢ a vote. Looters have to sucker voters with hundreds of times that much money for each vote.
But Trump and his buddies told them for months not to vote by mail. In the middle of a pandemic. When the strongest R bloc was older people for whom the pandemic was a big deal.
Shot himself in the foot with that one.
I like how Reason puts out articles saying that Libertarian candidates are not spoilers because every voter should be allowed to vote their conscience, and then gloats about spoiling elections every time a Libertarian candidate causes a Republican loss.
A person who had no chance of wining forces a revote between the two people where one was going to win in either case. this so called libertarian just costed more money to the state for a second election that could have been resolved in one election. not very libertarian and no bail is not libertarian. Public safety is libertarian.
See? Another girl-bullying looter Trumpanzee who imagines winning is the act of getting robbed and shot by gangs of looters without even so much as a reach-around. Libertarians have for 50 years used spoiler votes to teach pathetic jackasses how to delete idiotic planks from their platforms and repeal cruel, cowardly laws. When looters lose, Libertarians won. (https://bit.ly/3QpGuKk)
The Libertarian party has big problems with voters. Liberals of course want laws relaxed for drug use but are very much anti Second Amendment, anti First Amendment and support big daddy government. Liberals have no problem with big daddy government controlling every body’s lives. Conservatives on the other hand, support the Constitution, less government but balk at reducing drug sentences not withstanding even decriminalizing drug use. In the past, Republicans favored Washington’s interventionist policies but then so do democrats, That may be changing in the Republican party though. The problem is, the Libertarian cannot attract enough people/voters to make any difference. The only success they’ve had is with Rand Paul and Thomas Massie. Libertarians are hated so much by the left, the MSM gloated after Rand was violently attacked by a deranged leftists neighbor. The Libertarian party either has to work harder and smarter or resign itself to the position as spoiler.
its the libertarian policies that drive people away from them. they are neither conservative or liberal they are pretty much anarchist most of the time and the libertarians at reason are not libertarians in any way any more. Reason as become a mouth piece for the democrats now. And their full open borders bulls shit turns off 95% of the public even the dems and the only reason the dems are open borders now, for now is to turn the country bluer for their votes or so they hope
Almost all libertarians involved with the Libertarian Party are minarchists, rather than anarchists. I am familiar with those who are anarchists at heart but make common cause with minarchists in order to get close to the point where government can be phased out. {Compare to Popular Front tactics from Social Democrats to Stalinist Marxists .
The whole idea of a "spoiler" is bullshit. Your vote does not belong to the Republicans or Democrats. Your vote belongs to YOU. You have no obligation to vote for anyone but the candidate you wish to.
Now the accusation of "wasted vote" deserves to be addressed. When half the people registered to vote don't actually cast a vote, that sends a message. When 2% of the voters vote for the Libertarian, that sends a message. Maybe not a strong one, but it's still a message. When an LP candidate can indeed affect the outcome of the Duopoly, then the Duopoly will pay attention. Maybe not much attention, but I little will still be paid.
It's Coke vs Pepsi. It's not a wasted vote if you pick Dr. Pepper, or RC Cola, or even Moxie. Eeew, Moxie.
Foxon Park Birch Beer. {With sugar or the diet version}
The market offers better alternatives at a lower price. A vote for Oliver cost a dime. Nobody was stupid enough to vote for the brain-damaged girl-bullier until shoved that direction by $20 worth of wheedling, snivelling exhortations. On average it took 400 times as much money to brainwash or frighten teevee watchers into standing in line for an "I Vomited" sticker as proof of having been gulled by flimflam artists. (https://bit.ly/3NEXrz9)
Yes indeedy. Votes send the same message in a looter mixed economy as prices. Votes and dollars alike impart valuable information telling how many people have spotted a much better alternative and are not buying the coercive looter altruism pushed by soft machine gangs. Time to shorten those platforms. The LP platform takes 20 minutes to read. Looter platforms go on and on like Hitler speeches. How obvious does it have to get? (https://bit.ly/3fSacLM)
SodaStream FTW! 🙂
Long live the spoilers! I "spoiled" Chet Brooks' re-election as Dean of the Texas Senate in 1992 when he was replaced by Jerry Patterson and Chet's campaign blamed me. Whether it was true or not (it wasn't, of course) it was a lot of fun listening to him whine in the newspapers!
no matter who wins, Ukraine is getting more money.
The casino is rigged, true enough. But Bernard Baruch used that exact same information to make a steady income in a crooked saloon by simply betting the occasional high-roller would lose a huge bet. Libertarian spoiler votes let ordinary citizens constructively game The Kleptocracy's dishonest system in order to get cut down on unwanted coercion. It's a LOT like having a choice, and way more reliable than "instant runoff" bum's rush totalitarian system outcomes.
Libertarian Donations Matter. Even with the Anschluss Trumpanzees doing their best to wreck the LP, individual donors can leverage a small donation to a pro-choice libertarian into 2 orders of magnitude more libertarian spoiler votes to help the public get The Kleptocracy Monkey off its back. Donors get to thrill at the bawling and shouting of frustrated looters having to deal with voters who finally understand that leveraged spoiler vote clout lowers taxes and gets the innocent out of jail.