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First Amendment

Senator Dick Durbin Doesn't Understand the First Amendment

On Tuesday, the senator erroneously claimed that "free speech does not include spreading misinformation."

Emma Camp | 11.3.2022 11:41 AM

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This week, yet another politician appeared to get the First Amendment woefully wrong—this time Senate majority whip Sen. Dick Durbin (D–Ill.).

On Tuesday, Sen. Durbin took to Twitter to complain about Elon Musk's recent takeover of the site, writing, "In the days since Musk took Twitter private, the platform has seen an uptick in hate speech, and Musk himself used the platform and his influence to spread a baseless conspiracy theory about a violent attack on an elected official's family member." Durbin continued, "free speech does not include spreading misinformation to downplay political violence."

Concerns about Musk's handling of Twitter aside, it is simply untrue—presuming that Durbin refers to "free speech" protections as they exist in the United States—that so-called "misinformation" is unprotected speech. As much as Durbin may dislike hateful speech or speech that spreads conspiracy theories, they are both generally protected by the First Amendment.

Durbin's complaints arose from his apparent dissatisfaction with the state of Twitter under newfound owner Elon Musk's control. Durbin began by writing that, under Musk's tutelage, "hate speech" sharply increased on the website. Durbin is correct at least on this count as according to Montclair State University researchers, the site experienced a 500 percent increase in tweets using "hate terms" in the hours after Musk's takeover.

Durbin also took aim at a tweet sent by Musk himself. Following what seemed like a politically motivated home invasion of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco home, leaving her husband "gravely" injured, Hillary Clinton sent a tweet castigating Republicans for "hate and deranged conspiracy theories," which she implied motivated the attacker. Musk responded in a now-deleted tweet, writing "There is a tiny possibility there might be more to this story than meets the eye," linking to a story in the Santa Monica Observer which claims that Pelosi was drunk and in a dispute with a male prostitute. The site, according to the Los Angeles Times, "masquerades" as a legitimate local news organization, and is "notorious for publishing false news." For example, the site claimed in 2016, "that Hillary Clinton had died and that a body double had been sent to debate Donald Trump."

While Durbin had plenty of reason to be troubled by these developments—the mass-tweeting of hateful language is concerning, and so too is such a powerful figure seemingly fooled by an online hoax—he was mistaken when asserting that Musk's tweet was somehow not covered "by free speech."

And while Durbin did use vague language when he wrote that "free speech does not include spreading misinformation to downplay political violence," it is fair to assume that Durbin was referring to speech that is protected under the First Amendment, as calling certain speech "free speech" is a common way to claim that it is legally protected.

However, while Durbin might find Musk's tweet offensive, "misinformation" is generally protected by the First Amendment.

"Unless speech—including speech labeled 'misinformation'—meets the precise legal definitions of one of the categorical exceptions to the First Amendment, it's protected," Will Creeley, the Legal Director at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE), tells Reason. "While commercial fraud and defamation, for example, are unprotected, there's no general 'misinformation' exception to the First Amendment. Musk's tweet would be protected by the First Amendment."

It is a troubling sign when politicians seem eager to label speech they dislike as not "free speech." For one, it indicates a flawed legal understanding of the First Amendment—something particularly worrying from a top-ranked politician and the Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee. However, Durbin's statements also reveal a deeper problem than a mere legal misunderstanding: A censorious impulse, and the desire to quash the speech of your enemies under nebulous accusations of harm.

"Politicians and celebrities routinely misconstrue the First Amendment out of political expediency, self-interest, or simple lack of knowledge. It's less of a trend and more of a standard background buzz in our political ambiance," Creeley tells Reason.

The First Amendment provides wide protection for a whole host of unpopular, inflammatory speech—one of its least loved, but most powerful characteristics. Further, Durbin's recent statements reveal an ugly authoritarian streak—one that responds to distasteful speech with the desire to legally punish the speaker, not mount a rhetorical opposition of your own. 

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  1. Kristian H.   3 years ago

    Since the WH deleted the tweet, do they understand the Presidental Records Act? Will anyone hold the WH accountable?

    Haha, I slay.

    1. Rossami   3 years ago

      I know you're being sarcastic but neither deleting a tweet nor leaving it up is relevant to compliance with the Presidential Records Act. Twitter is not the repository of record.

      Now, if you look in the official repository of record and don't find a copy of the tweet's content, you might have a case - but I think there's a time delay so you can't even start looking until ... not sure when. After Biden's out of office?

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        I know you’re being sarcastic but neither deleting a tweet nor leaving it up is relevant to compliance with the Presidential Records Act. Twitter is not the repository of record.

        We'll just ignore a certain court case about Trump and tweets that Reason said was a "reasonable judgement" because we're all friends here.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

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              1. Rob Misek   3 years ago

                It’s obvious that people play fast and loose with rhetoric when any issue isn’t clear.

                The Supreme Court simply needs to clearly rule if lying is protected speech or not.

                If it is, why would we ever believe the Supreme Court again, or anyone else for that matter?

                And they could kiss the oath goodbye, “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth”.

                If lying is or isn’t a protected inalienable right it applies to everyone everywhere.

          2. Utkonos   3 years ago

            Badder than ole King Kong, meaner than a junkyard dog!

          3. Liberty Lover   3 years ago

            Orange man made some mean tweet! OMG!

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago (edited)

          I still find it hilarious that the gif of Trump clotheslining and bopping a CNN-logoed Vince McMahon had to go in the National Archives simply because he retweeted it.

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  2. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    What about fake news about Trump? Shouldn't purveyors of such lies be punished?

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

      Or at least whacked in the head with a hammer.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        Maxwell's silver hammer?

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    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

      Punished or censored?

      Censored? No. Punished? Yes.

      What does 'punishment' mean? In the case of the media, punishment should be ridicule and tanking ratings.

      For public officials, that's more complicated.

      But back to the censored part: That's the point, you don't want their lies censored, you want them to be remembered and thus taught to generations of children.

      So no, there isn't going to be any COVID amnesty, we're going to make sure that Anthony Fauci's lies are plastered all over billboards until the end of civilization.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        There's no way to prove counterfactuals, but I do believe that if the other guy was president there still would have been attempt to empower government men to decide what news is real or fake. Not only that, but the very people decrying Biden would have applauded it. Principles shminciples. Counterfactual so it can't be proved either way. But that's my opinion of the people on this board.

        1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

          There’s no way to prove counterfactuals, but I do believe that if the other guy was president there still would have been attempt to empower government men to decide what news is real or fake.

          We know that the government WAS doing that under Trump. It was the #Resistance wing of the deep state that lives on through different administrations. That's not even in dispute.

          1. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

            Not in dispute?

            Dude, I’ve been called all kinds of names for suggesting that Trump was going to go after “fake news.”

            I’ve been told that it’s unique to Biden and Democrats because Republicans would never go after people who say bad things about them. Especially someone as thin-skinned as Trump. No, only Democrats could do this any they should all be in prison.

            1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

              I'm not saying Trump was "going after fake news" and in fact, I would argue he never did... as president. Again, the department of state, and the department of Homeland Security-- and the FBI (all working against Trump) were.

              And it is unique to Biden and Democrats at this moment in history

              Poll after poll after poll after poll shows that. Democrats think social media doesn't censor enough, Republicans think it censors too much. Sure, we'll wait *makes up number* 25 years when the country AND culture are utterly dominated by Republicans and that could flip, but until then...

              1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                I’m not saying Trump was “going after fake news” and in fact, I would argue he never did…

                I'm not saying he did. I'm saying he sure wanted to, and who knows what would be happening right now if he was in the White House.
                Two things I can say for sure. He wouldn't be above using force of government against the media, and if he did the same people calling for blood would defend him.

                1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago (edited)

                  He wouldn’t be above using force of government against the media, and if he did the same people calling for blood would defend him.

                  I’m simply not convinced of that. We DO know that Democrats are using force against the media. Again, that is not in dispute. But we keep speculating about how many nuclear wars Donald Trump would have started had we given him enough time. We don’t need to give the Democrats time, they’re doing it, doing it now, doing it hard and are angry that they might not be able to keep doing it to the tech platform they captured until last friday.

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

                    Perhaps. It's a counterfactual so we'll never know.
                    Still you can't convince me that most of his principled supporters wouldn't drop their principles in a heartbeat to defend him.

                2. Square = Circle   3 years ago

                  who knows what would be happening right now if he was in the White House

                  Why not use the example of the four years that he was actually in the White House?

                  1. sarcasmic   3 years ago (edited)

                    Crybaby-in-chief or idiot-in-chief?

                    I would reluctantly choose the crybaby if you put a gun to my head, but that doesn't matter since I'm not registered to vote.

                    1. VULGAR MADMAN   3 years ago

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              Dude, you've been called all sorts of names for the very stupidity you showcase with that comment.

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    3. Liberty Lover   3 years ago

      No Trump made mean tweets so any lie was permissible. Even a lie kept alive to impeach Trump with fake intelligence. (sarc) On the other hand HIllary's mean tweets are just fine, because she is ...Hillary!

  3. MWAocdoc   3 years ago (edited)

    “Nebulous allegations of harm!” Hear, hear! This is my new mantra. Not only does Durbin not support the First Amendment, he also does not understand “clear and present danger” or “compelling government interest” or “due process,” nor does he know where the boundaries between public and private are drawn. If backed into a corner, he could not even begin to describe a legally enforceable definition of misinformation or disinformation. But, of course, he doesn’t care as long as he can use an unconstitutionally vague law or federal regulation to bludgeon his political opponents with and subjugate his subjects.

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  4. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

    Durbin's not an outlier--there's a very deliberate effort by the left right now which argues that heavy-handed censorship in their favor is actually protecting free speech. Not even Squealer in "Animal Farm" was so transparently mendacious.

    As I've pointed out numerous times, this is just Marcuse's "repressive tolerance" being expressed as a core ideological keystone. And it's also why this type of will to power can't be vigorously resisted by libertarians or even classical liberals, because they assume too much good faith on the part of people who have openly declared their intent to practice a double standard. Something like that can only be neutered by reactionaries who have no problem applying the marxists' own rules against them.

    1. Brett Bellmore   3 years ago

      Being a libertarian or classical liberal doesn't actually require assuming good faith on the part of leftists. I think that's more a property of not having been around long enough to have figured out that it's almost always a mistake.

  5. rloquitur   3 years ago

    Durbin is an execrable human being. He used his free speech rights to smear US Marines as Nazis.

  6. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    Yeah, that is a pretty fucking stupid comment by Durbin.

    Rivals "Twitter is taking away my free speech rights" for Peak Stupidity.

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

      Rivals "I am not a pedo" from Buttplug.

    2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Durbin was just stating Democratic Party policy on speech.

  7. Mickey Rat   3 years ago

    "A managed democracy is a wonderful thing...for the managers. And it's greatest strength is a free press, where free is defined as 'responsible' and the managers define what is 'irresponsible'." - Robert Heinlein

    1. gah87   3 years ago

      "It is a troubling sign when politicians seem eager to label speech they dislike as not 'free speech.'"

      Actually, it's way more than a "troubling sign"; it's a goddamned existential threat, since the next step is gulags.

  8. Jerryskids   3 years ago

    Does Durbin understand more or less about the Constitution than the average Congresscritter? And is that amount more or less than the average iguana? Discuss. (But be aware that some species of iguana are surprisingly intelligent.)

  9. Robert Stane   3 years ago

    Senator Dick Durbin, a Democrat from Springfield, is the 47th U.S. Senator from the State of Illinois, the state's senior senator, and the convener of Illinois' bipartisan congressional delegation. Durbin also serves as the Senate Majority Whip, the second highest ranking position among the Senate Democrats.

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  10. Longtobefree   3 years ago

    "free speech does not include spreading misinformation."

    Well, then, no democrat has free speech.

    "misinformation" is another made up political word, like "assault rifle", for the fascists to use in bullying the freedom loving citizens of the USA.

    Remember, remember, the eighth of November.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

      Don't forget Hunter Bidens Laptop.

      Talk about a fake scandal. Apparently some dirty pics and whoremongering by the presidents son is a national tragedy.

      I expect presidential family idiocy - see Trump, Bush, Clinton, Billy Carter, Ronald Reagan's wife and astrologer.

      1. MWAocdoc   3 years ago

        No, I couldn't care less that Hunter smoked crack and purchased the services of prostitutes. What I DO care about is that he got his job because of a powerful politician in his family who granted political favors in exchange; and the official and media coverup designed to prevent the scandal from damaging the Democrats in the election at the time.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

          What "job"?

          His stint on the Board of Directors at the Ukrainian gas company?

          That is not a job. That is what any Director is for. Connections.

          Plus he was qualitied as a corporate governance expert.

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            10% for the big guy, that's what I'm concerned about, and that's what could've affected an election.

            1. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

              Plus 10% for the Big Guy's brother and 20% for the Big Guy's son.......

            2. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

              What "political favors" did his family grant in exchange for that 10%?

              Care to list any?

          2. Square = Circle   3 years ago (edited)

            His stint on the Board of Directors at the Ukrainian gas company?

            That is not a job. That is what any Director is for. Connections.

            So you admit that the only reason he got that job was as a means of purchasing access to Joe Biden?

            1. damikesc   3 years ago

              He did not MEAN to do that...but, yeah, he did.

              1. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

                No, of course he meant to do it--he's the ne'er-do-well of the Biden family--all he's got is the desperate hope of trading on the family name.

                But, that's not illegal.

          3. MWAocdoc   3 years ago

            If it doesn't bother you that corporations need government connections to get special favors from government officials, then there's not much left for me to say.

      2. Brian   3 years ago

        “ Talk about a fake scandal. Apparently some dirty pics and whoremongering by the presidents son is a national tragedy.”

        It’s so weird. Usually journalists love a good sex scandal, especially if it involves bizarre kinky unconfirmed reports of pee tapes or hookers like Stormy Daniels. But for some strange reason, they not only avoided the Hunter Biden scandals, but actively spread misinformation about them.

        It doesn’t make a lot of sense, unless you assume they have such a strong interest in protecting Joe Biden that they spread false propaganda in his behalf. Then it makes perfect sense.

    2. Social Justice is neither   3 years ago

      If this was true then the media would be silent.

  11. Mickey Rat   3 years ago (edited)

    Retrieved from the MSM memory hole, Nancy Pelosi on whether Democrats should feel responsible for their rhetoric prior to the 2017 assassination attempt on the GOP congressional baseball team practice where Steve Scalise was seriously wounded:

    “I think that the comments made by my Republican colleagues are outrageous. Beneath the dignity of the job that they hold, beneath the dignity of the respect that we would like Congress to command. How dare they say such things? How dare they?”

    Screw the rules for thee, but not for me Democrats.

    1. Tony   3 years ago

      I guess as long as you brainwashed lunatics are denying responsibility for the political violence you have been actively encouraging for decades, you're not actively endorsing it. Except when you do, of course.

      1. Mickey Rat   3 years ago

        That whooshing sound was the point going over your head.

        1. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

          I think it went straight through his head.

          1. gah87   3 years ago

            And hit him in the ass on the way out.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

        Political violence?

        What about that time Steve Scalise got injured by a Bernie Fan?

        See, it evens out the mass shootings by right-wingers.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          What mass shootings by right-wingers?

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_right-wing_terrorist_attacks

            Hundreds of them. Links provided by Wikipedia.

            1. Square = Circle   3 years ago

              Pathetic.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

                I agree. That is a lot of wing-nuttery.

                1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                  All the American organized bombings and shootings on that list were by Democrats.

                  Apparently the list's curator thinks being a school shooter means you're right wing. Pretty desperate, but no.

                  Also it's got the Oklahoma City bombing, Wedgewood Baptist Church shooting, and Red Lake shootings as right-wing terrorist attacks... And fucking January 6.

                  Who the fuck do you think you're kidding?

                  1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                    The Wedgwood Baptist shooter was literally you, Shrike: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Gene_Ashbrook

                    Are you saying you're right-wing?

                    I'll make it easier for you, Shrike.
                    Out of your list, point me out an actual American right-winger mass shooting.

                  2. TangoDelta   3 years ago

                    It's also quite padded with killings of individuals labeled as terrorism. Sorry but a single targeted murder isn't terrorism, it's murder and there are many on that list.

            2. Eeyore   3 years ago

              1/6 is in that list. Lol.

            3. damikesc   3 years ago

              This is pretty sad, even by pedo standards.

        2. Square = Circle   3 years ago

          What about that time Steve Scalise got injured by a Bernie Fan tried to assassinate the entire Republican Senate Caucus but only hit one because he was such a bad shot?

          FTFY

        3. Mickey Rat   3 years ago

          Sigh. The point was that Pelosi was outraged by the suggestion that her party should police its rhetoric after an incident where a GOP Representative actually got shot, and nearly died. Yet now, Republicans are expected to meekly take blame for what happened to Paul Pelosi at the hands of a madman.

      3. Brian   3 years ago

        You’re going to have to try really hard to get your political opponents to feel guilty dogleg the same crap you give your own team a pass on.

      4. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

        We're just trying to make up for the decades your side was doing it.

      5. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        "Your political tribe's crazies killed more people than my political tribe's crazies!"

        "No way, fuck you! Your crazies are worse!"

        "No you!"

        "No you!"

  12. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   3 years ago

    "free speech does not include spreading misinformation to downplay political violence"

    Such as "mostly peaceful" riots?

    1. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

      Exactly.

      But what is Reason doing attacking a Democrat, anyway? I have it on good authority that Reason only attacks Republicans.

  13. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    Baseless conspiracy theories:

    Durbin: DOJ IG Report Is Clear - The FBI's 2016 Russia Investigation Was Not Influence By Political Bias

    1. MWAocdoc   3 years ago

      "We investigated ourselves and found ourselves to be totally innocent of any wrongdoing." Heh ...

  14. InsaneTrollLogic   3 years ago

    Dickhead/Dickless Durbin doesn't understand a lot of things. He's probably the biggest asshole in the Senate, despite his name being Dick. I have tried multiple times, unsuccessfully, to vote his retarded ass out of the Senate for better representation for my state.

    1. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

      The only thing Durbin needs to understand is he's a shoe in for re-election in the fucktarded state of Illinois Chicago.

  15. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago (edited)

    *ctrl-f authoriti (1/1)*

    Hey! Nice job, Reason! Well done.

    1. Cyto   3 years ago

      LOL

      also.... "erroneously declares".... lol

      This has been the official democrat party position for at least 8 years. "Eroneous". Jeez reason.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        There's a media style guide when it comes to criticizing comments made by Democrats when they say something awful:

        Disappointing
        Unfortunate

  16. Brian   3 years ago

    Democrats are just a crazy cult that tries to pretend they stand for freedom, but it’s really “freedom”.

    Meaningful freedom is the ability to make choices without them being made for you. But democrats treat “freedom” like a random word to describe nothing like , “the freedom to have difficult decisions made for you so you don’t have to think hard.” That’s not actually freedom, that’s “freedom.”

    They can’t actually take a stance on freedom that any normal person can relate to, and then they wonder why their moralistic whining about freedom doesn’t really change the outlook going into Tuesday. It’s because they have no credibility on freedom, and everyone knows it.

  17. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

    "free speech does not include spreading misinformation to downplay political violence,"

    What a Dick.

  18. swillfredo pareto   3 years ago

    Politicians and celebrities routinely misconstrue the First Amendment out of political expediency, self-interest, or simple lack of knowledge.

    While I am quite confident in the fullness of time Republican politicians will take advantage of their nascent power and start "routinely" misconstruing the First Amendment out of political expediency, self interest or simple lack of knowledge, for now it is pretty much a liberal problem. It is my understanding there is no such thing as a conservative "celebrity".

    1. SoSoCoCoMoFo   3 years ago

      Not even based on Twatter followers or a similar metric?

  19. Naime Bond   3 years ago

    the site experienced a 500 percent increase in tweets using "hate terms" in the hours after Musk's takeover.....eerily reminiscent of a 500% increase in alcohol usage in the hours after Prohibition was repealed. The report also said it would be pure speculation to try and connect or hold Musk responsible, for the increase.

  20. Minadin   3 years ago

    Dick Durbin Doesn't Understand the First Amendment
    I think this works for a number of amendments. Let's see:

    Dick Durbin Doesn't Understand the Second Amendment. ✓
    Dick Durbin Doesn't Understand the Fourth Amendment. ✓
    Dick Durbin Doesn't Understand the Ninth Amendment. ✓
    Dick Durbin Doesn't Understand the Tenth Amendment. ✓

    Probably more.

    1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

      Short of pandering to remain in office, it can be shortened to: Dick Durbin doesn't understand.

      1. Michael Ejercito   3 years ago

        Remember when he wrote that letter asking Roe v. Wade to be overturned?

    2. Mickey Rat   3 years ago

      I would not say he does not understand, rather that he does not like.

  21. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

    "Free speech does not include spreading misinformation." Odd that the current iteration of Courier Newsroom gets a pass.

  22. TJJ2000   3 years ago

    'misinformation' --- It's why the Nazi-Empire HAS to abridge the freedom of the press and speech.

    Conquering the USA one Constitutional Amendment at a time.
    It's a common ploy by treasonous Democrats to take-over the USA for their Nazi(National Socialist)-Empire.

  23. Think It Through   3 years ago

    I don't think Durbin doesn't "understand" it. I think he knows perfectly well what it has meant over time, and wants to change it so that his team is the only one who continues to have free speech.

  24. TangoDelta   3 years ago

    So he's spreading misinformation. What's new about that?

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