Climber Who Competed Without Her Hijab Apologizes as Protests Continue To Rock Iran
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Iranian climber Elnaz Rekabi has returned to Tehran, after competing in an international competition without a hijab and subsequently apologizing. Rekabi returned to Iran today and was greeted by a cheering crowd.
Last weekend, Rekabi represented Iran at the IFSC Climbing Asian Championships in Seoul. In video of the competition, Rekabi can be seen climbing sans hijab—which goes against Iran's rules for women athletes.
People became concerned for Rekabi after reports that friends had not been able to reach her and that her passport and phone were confiscated as she got on a plane back to Tehran.
Rekabi subsequently posted an apology on her Instagram page, saying that the absence of a hijab was unintentional. "Due to bad timing, and the unanticipated call for me to climb the wall, my head covering inadvertently came off," her post said.
"The claim of an error on her Instagram account may suggest the regime is trying to avoid putting her in jail after the video of her without her hijab went viral," suggests the Guardian.
"State media later broadcast an interview with Ms Rekabi, in which she repeated the explanation she had given in an Instagram post for climbing with her hair uncovered," notes the BBC. "I was suddenly and unexpectedly called on to compete while I was at the women's locker room," said Rekabi. "I was busy wearing my shoes and fixing my equipment and forgot to wear my hijab, which I should have worn."
https://twitter.com/AnymousIran/status/1582546898191536128
The controversy comes amid ongoing protests against restrictions on women and the Iranian regime more broadly. Since September, Iranians have been taking to the streets.
The protests were initially spurred by the death of Mahsa Amini, a young woman arrested for not wearing a hijab correctly.
A main focus all along has been on women's rights, with many Iranian women removing their headscarves in protest. But protesters have also moved beyond this, decrying Iranian dictatorship more generally.
Defiant Kurdish women have removed their hijabs, walk in streets of Bukan city, defying regime's mandatory hijab rules. Amid ongoing protests in Iran, many women in Iran have stopped observing rules described by activists as "gender apartheid". #مهسا_امینی pic.twitter.com/IpgwUXeXdF
— Khosro K Isfahani (@KhosroKalbasi) October 18, 2022
"The current protests in Iran sound the death knell of the Islamic Republic," suggests Masih Alinejad in Foreign Affairs this week. Amini's killing "has unleashed a wave of angry and bloody demonstrations, boycotts, work stoppages, and wildcat strikes that have exhausted the country's security forces and spread to more than 100 cities. The government has endured major protests before, notably in 2009, 2017, and 2019, but these demonstrations are different. They embody the anger that Iranian women and young Iranians feel toward a regime that seeks to stifle their dearest desires. And they promise to upend Iran's establishment."
Alinejad continues:
The compulsory wearing of the hijab is to the Islamic Republic what the Berlin Wall was to communism, a symbol not just of power and endurance but of vulnerability. The Berlin Wall was also an admission of the fragility of the communist system, which depended on exercising great control over people. Similarly, compulsory hijab laws reflect the Islamic Republic's fear of allowing its citizens personal freedoms and its intent to control society by treating women as if they are pieces of property to be corralled and protected. Once the Berlin Wall fell, communism was doomed. The same fate awaits the Islamic Republic once women can throw off their veils and participate in social life as men do.
Alinejad points out how the internet and social media have invigorated a younger generation of protesters:
Iranian officials have used footage from surveillance cameras in public places such as subways and motorways to help identify and fine women who flout the mandatory hijab rule. The chief of the Headquarters for Enjoining Right and Forbidding Evil, a government body responsible for enforcing Islamist laws, warned in August that women who post pictures of themselves without a hijab on the Internet will be deprived of some social rights for six months to one year. Authorities have prevented women whom they perceive not to be in full compliance with the dress code from entering government offices and banks and from riding on public transportation.
Such measures have not stopped Iranian women from resisting the hijab. For the past decade, the authorities have had to deal with greater online militancy by Iranian women. With traditional media completely controlled by the state, Iranians have flocked to social media, especially platforms such as Facebook, Instagram, Telegram, Twitter, and WhatsApp, to push back against the veil. For instance, millions follow the social media campaign "My Stealthy Freedom," which seeks to get rid of compulsory hijab laws in Iran, and its various initiatives, such as White Wednesdays (encouraging women to wear white scarves on Wednesdays as a sign of dissent), Walking Unveiled (when women unveil themselves in public), Men in Hijab (when men post pictures of themselves wearing hijab), and My Camera Is My Weapon (in which women share mobile phone footage of abusive men or interactions with the morality police), all designed to enable women to challenge the onerous dress code. The campaigns have empowered women to take off their hijabs and defy the strictures of the regime. Using their mobile phones, women have shared so many videos of morality police harassment via "My Stealthy Freedom" that the government introduced a 2019 law that made sending videos to the campaign an offense punishable by ten years of imprisonment.
For the regime, trying to control a young generation that wants social change and stronger connections to the West is an uphill battle. Despite widespread censorship, Iran's Internet penetration rate (the percentage of the country's population that have access to the Internet) at the beginning of 2022 was 84 percent, a high mark. Iran has over 130 million mobile subscriptions, which gives the country of 84 million people a staggering mobile phone penetration rate of 161 percent, with the average person having more than one phone. The reported number of Internet users in 2022 increased to 72 million from 58 million in 2020, and the real figure could be even higher.
As Iran cracks down on dissidents and perpetuates human rights abuses at home, it's also aiding in human rights abuses abroad.
Iran has agreed to send more weapons to Russia, Iranian officials and diplomats told Reuters. Iran will provide Russia with drones and surface-to-surface ballistic missiles, Iranian First Vice President Mohammad Mokhber and other high ranking officials visited Moscow to discuss the weapons deal earlier this month.
"One of the drones Iran agreed to supply is the Shahed-136, a delta-winged weapon used as a 'kamikaze' air-to-surface attack aircraft. It carries a small warhead that explodes on impact," reports Reuters. "Fateh-110 and Zolfaghar are Iranian short-range surface to surface ballistic missiles capable of striking targets at distances of between 300 km and 700 km (186 and 435 miles). The Iranian diplomat rejected assertions by Western officials that such transfers breach a 2015 U.N. Security Council resolution."
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A new study from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) finds no scientific evidence to back up bite mark analysis as a crime-solving tool. What's more, "the evidence we do have explicitly refutes two of them," Radley Balko points out:
Studies have consistently shown that human skin is incapable of recording and preserving the details of a bite, and competency tests have shown that not only are bitemark analysts bad at matching bites to human subjects, they often can't even agree on what is and isn't a human bite.
Balko wrote about bite mark analysis for Reason a number of times in 2009 and went on to write a book about the injustices this pseudo-science perpetuates (The Cadaver King and the Country Dentist: A True Story of Injustice in the American South).
J.D. Tuccille has more on the recent NIST report here.
On October 27, NIST researchers are holding a webinar on their findings.
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Tax code adjusted for inflation. "The Internal Revenue Service adjusted key tax code parameters for 2023 to reflect higher inflation, raising the standard deduction and the income thresholds where tax rates take effect," reports The Wall Street Journal. The top marginal tax rate next year will apply to people making more than $578,125 individually or $693,750 as a married couple. The standard deduction will rise to $13,850 for an individual and $27,700 for a married couple, while the maximum contribution to a flexible spending account will rise from $2,850 to $3,050.
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Rekabi subsequently posted an apology on her Instagram page, saying that the absence of a hijab was unintentional.
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"The Cato Institute is suing the Biden administration over student loan forgiveness plan."
Can't wait for Reason's leading economics expert to deploy #DefendBidenAtAllCosts Category A: change the subject. He'll explain that Cato shouldn't bother opposing Biden on this because Trump or Bush or Reagan did something worse.
#LibertariansForBiden
Doubt that. Why do libertarians eat their own? Too hung up on purity, which is rather anti-libertarian itself.
The chief of the Headquarters for Enjoining Right and Forbidding Evil
GOP taking notes.
You misspelled DNC.
Nah. The DNC is taking notes on Putin’s declaration of martial law in someone else’s country. Seems a natural for a Haitian humanitarian intervention.
Anti-racists giving the lecture
https://idahocapitalsun.com/2022/10/18/bill-prohibiting-public-drag-performances-to-be-introduced-in-upcoming-idaho-legislative-session/
“…citing a section of the Idaho Constitution that states the first concern of all good government is the virtue and sobriety of the people and the purity of the home. It says the Legislature should ‘further all wise and well-directed efforts for the promotion of temperance and morality.’”
Can you now cite all the blue states and cities and their official actions to promote cultural cleansing?
Cali is legalizing kidnapping
To paraphrase Mencken conservatism is the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
Iranian conservatives are the same construction as American conservatives. Of course instead of the Quran they whip out the Bible but both are the same Bronze Age bullshit.
Ambrose Bierce:
Conservative, n: A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others.
Brilliant man, that Ambrose.
You got Mencken completely wrong. It's about puritanism, and the only puritans here today are the progressives, the so-called "woke".
Puritans are now called Evangelicals.
I call them Fundie-Nuts or Bible Beaters. They're stupid and blindly devoted to the GOP.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled shit-pile, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
The evangelicals are far, far less puritanical (and tyrannical) than the woke. Wake up and smell the shit that your buttplug's in.
I still get a kick out of the left's unending fear of Evangelicals even though the political and cultural power of Evangelicals is almost nil. You just have to keep creating boogeymen wherever you can to justify your side's puritanism and authoritarianism.
Progressives are so often that which they fight against.
Nil? You’re daft.
Fundie Nuts elected the Dotard after he promised them Aborto-Freak justices from their “List”.
Our SCOTUS is infected with Bible Quackery.
Right.
Let's fact check that.
Jackson - non-denominational Protestant
Barrett - Roman Catholic
Kavanaugh - Roman Catholic
Gorsuch - Anglican, raised Roman Catholic
Kagan - Conservative Judaism
Sotomayor - Roman Catholic
Alito - Roman Catholic
Thomas - Roman Catholic
Roberts - Roman Catholic
Catholics rely on far more than just the Bible as they also use Church tradition. Your assertion is asinine.
Wow, that's the entire woke word bingo card right there.
Woke? Me? You're nuts. I was called a racist yesterday for mocking Herschel and his Fat Albert style utterance bla blu blu blah bla blo bra bo.
LOL you were called racist for claiming that the GOP found the key to getting black votes via a child-abandoning wife-beater, not so subtly insinuating that black people are child-abandoning wife-beaters.
https://reason.com/2022/10/18/georgia-sets-early-voting-record-despite-controversial-voting-law/?comments=true#comment-9752415
The increase in Georgia early voting is probably due to South Fulton and Dekalb blacks rushing to vote for Herschel because they relate to his gangsta-thug wife-beating child-abandonment bad-ass self. The GOP has finally figured out how to attract the A-A vote.
My mistake. That was the entire TDS-deplorable bingo card.
Fundie Nuts elected the Dotard
THAT'S YOUR BEEF WITH THEM???? They voted in elections for a guy you hate?
I knew that you were a fucking fascist but that takes the cake.
What? Evangelicals were a major factor behind the election of Donald Trump.
It all comes down to rejecting democracy with you pseudo-nazis, huh. Better start fortifying harder, Mike. Start filling out ballots today.
Glad you caught that too. Total misappropriation of the quote.
Guess again.
Milo, the re-closeted De Sade has the ear of Congresscritter Marjorie Taylor Greene-Teeth and has proposed laws against blasphemy and making Christianity a requirement of Citizenship...And Greene-Teeth is just the one to carry it out:
Marjorie Taylor Greene defends the right to mock dead kids while her intern calls for blasphemy ban
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2022/10/marjorie-taylor-greene-defends-right-mock-dead-kids-intern-calls-blasphemy-ban/
Her intern called for a blasphemy ban. Well an intern said it. That settles it. The entire Republican party wants to ban blasphemy.
Jesus fucking Christ you people are stupid.
Official Christianity is also part of the National Conservatism Statement of Principles, which includes a big chunk of Trumpsters and other Republicans as signatories:
National Conservatism: A Statement of Principleshttps://nationalconservatism.org/national-conservatism-a-statement-of-principles/
4. God and Public Religion. No nation can long endure without humility and gratitude before God and fear of his judgment that are found in authentic religious tradition. For millennia, the Bible has been our surest guide, nourishing a fitting orientation toward God, to the political traditions of the nation, to public morals, to the defense of the weak, and to the recognition of things rightly regarded as sacred. The Bible should be read as the first among the sources of a shared Western civilization in schools and universities, and as the rightful inheritance of believers and non-believers alike. Where a Christian majority exists, public life should be rooted in Christianity and its moral vision, which should be honored by the state and other institutions both public and private.
And while they do begrudingly add the clause below, with the present Constitution and First Amendment, it isn’t necessary:
At the same time, Jews and other religious minorities are to be protected in the observance of their own traditions, in the free governance of their communal institutions, and in all matters pertaining to the rearing and education of their children. Adult individuals should be protected from religious or ideological coercion in their private lives and in their homes.
By the way, Mister “Jesus Fucking Christ,” I’d watch my yap with this bunch or they’ll have you in a dunce cap and surrounded with burning piles of wood.
I actually sympathize with conservative parents who don't want their kids to go to drag shows for children. I personally wouldn't take my kids to such a show. (Unless it was a Monty Python-style-John-Cleese-in-drag show, in which case, I'd want my kids front and center.) But, the way I look at it, I have all the control I need over that scenario.
I get not wanting to be confronted with drag shows for children when you are just trying to take your kid to the library to get some books.
I don't get trying to ban drag shows from public parks. There is a long tradition of groups, such as Pride organizations, reserving parks for events. And it is quite easy to avoid walking into the middle of such an event.
I get not wanting to be confronted with drag shows for children when you are just trying to take your kid to the library to get some books.
Do you get paying taxes for a library you can't use? Do you get that? Do you get it that kids can't consent and shouldn't be forcibly sexualized even by their parents? I don't think you do. And I don't think you get any of the things you list. It is just your dishonest way of saying "go fuck yourself if you don't like kids being groomed".
Mike Laurson in 2025
"I get it that conservative parents don't want public schools allowing men to forcibly sodomize their children."
"I get it that conservative parents are made uncomfortable when their neighbor takes a seven year old boy and makes him a BDSM gimp sex slave".
That is where you are headed Mike. I hope you are proud.
"Do you get paying taxes for a library you can’t use? Do you get that?"
Well, yes, I do get that. It goes along with what I said about that I get "not wanting to be confronted with drag shows for children when you are just trying to take your kid to the library to get some books."
Geez, dude. Chill out.
Wait a second…
“Can’t use”? It’s not like any public library out there is having non-stop year-round drag shows for children. What do you mean you “can’t use” the library.
Subjective or objective morality?
It wasn't Republicans forcing women to cover their faces for the last two years.
Mandated, known to be ineffective, religious talismans. Brought to you by the 'party of science'
It was in my state.
Texan here. I distinctly remember the lockdowns and the mask orders. Those weren't deployed by Democrats. Any implication that Republicans weren't absolutely complicit with the collective insanity is pure gaslighting.
absolutely
I don’t think you know what that word means. Some were certainly complicit but ‘Republicans were absolutely complicit’ is equally disingenuous gas lighting.
Especially if you look at Reason's parroting of "We're all in this together." relative to Trump's "We need to reopen businesses and restart the economy."
Like Brandyshit, he's still trying to justify his case of TDS
Funny, if you're a Texan, then you would probably be aware that Abbott and the Rs initially went along with it, then it was largely limited to the state's deep-blue shithole cities for the next year after the vaccines were rolled out in 2021. They also avoided doing a state-wide lockdown during the late 2020 surge.
Texas Republicans couldn't take a chance that the overwhelmingly Democrat 'Public Health Experts' were not lying. When it became obvious they were, they did what they could to circumvent or ignore the directives. We still had to deal with shit from the Democrat held cities and PEUs, but outside of those, lockdowns were not an issue.
Plus, early on they got to get in a few jabs at the elitist asshole Democrats by sanctioning travelers from NY & NJ who drove the fear into the stratosphere by killing all those old people. Good times.
That's right, folks! It's time for another round of "Let's Make Excuses For Team Red And Endlessly Give Them The Benefit Of The Doubt As They Perpetually Fuck Up Time And Time Again"
That's right, folks! It's another round of "Chemfat Can't Stand It When His Lefty Boos Get Slagged"
This is the same "chemist" who whines about right-wing "reactionaries" but doesn't understand how a catalyst works in a reactionary event.
I mean there was a real, qualitative AND quantitative difference in the way Republicans and Democrats handled the response to Covid both Nationally and at the state level so that shouldn’t be discounted. But It’s hilarious that you complain about this and turn around and do the opposite.
Personally I don’t care either way, just own up to your biases.
The difference between the way the Travis County Judge and the Governor of Texas handled COVID restrictions was night and day. Travis county went full 'public expert' authoritarian, first shutting down businesses and then threatening businesses with fines if they failed to exclude customers or employees without masks. You can't gaslight me that it didn't happen because I taped the County edicts on the front door myself. A lot of Abbott's reactions were specifically to the actions of Travis County because that's where his house is and where he works.
But sure, jeffy, make it all about stumping for the team when in fact I am in stumping about personal liberty. Republicans fuck up a lot of things, but they didn't fuck up the reaction to COVID. It has been proven by the speed of the recovery in different areas.
Last time I checked, Clay Jenkins was a Democrat. Can’t speak for the rest of the state, but fuck that guy. And fuck Abbot for going along with it as long as he did.
Eat shit, pedo.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled pile of shit, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
New York attorney general Letitia James wants to criminalize sharing images or videos of violence.
BLM riots : no film at 11:00
Another step in reducing violent crime: make it illegal to show it happening.
No more violent crime!
Also good for the mental health of fragile snowflakes.
Extra good for ANTIFA. They're pretty vigilant about who they allow to video or photograph their mostly peaceful protests. That would make it illegal to show them
setting fire to federal officespeacefully protesting outside federal offices before getting abused by fascist police.As I’ve said several times before, I despise antifa because they beat up my friend’s son when he tried to video one of their protests in Berkeley, years before any Black Lives Matter protests.
That's a brilliant move. Nobody dies if there is no video of them laying in the subway or piss-soaked streets.
So they won't be releasing police body cams anymore?
It takes longer than 5 days to starve to death.
That was my first thought. Starving to death generally takes at least two weeks.
I'm guessing there was some other sort of complication that had been left out of the story.
A good formula used by Survivalists/Preppers is: 30 days without food, 3 days without water, 3 hours without shelter from the elements, 3 minutes without Oxygen, and 3 seconds without rational thought.
Not if that includes lack of water.
Lack of water would be between two and three days.
So too short for starvation, but too long for thirst. I’m guessing some other complication that isn’t as headline grabbing.
Clinton Foundation supply chain issues?
That's on average. The guy isn't moving around due to the injury, so that will make for less water loss. So its possible.
A prisoner in Austria, Andreas Mihavecz, went 18 days without water. Though he did lick condensation from the walls.
A prisoner in Austria, Andreas Mihavecz, went 18 days without water. Though he did lick condensation from someone's balls.
Nah. Chef's Salty Balls would shut down the kidneys faster than 18 days. 🙂
Chef (Issac Hayes)--Chocolate Salty Balls--Official Music Video
https://youtu.be/sjrdanK4LSY
If it's condensation, it's water, so this wouldn't count.
Between 2 and 3 days to die, and another 2 or 3 to notice the body.
I recall reading the story from another source (linked in previous comments?) and their narrative was less directly indicting of prison officials (surprise!). That is to say, between the alleged injury and death, other inmates were 'helping' and/or fucking around (figuratively) with his head/neck before he died. And while I know it's hard to disbelieve ENB's peerless investigative reporting skills, the other article actually had quotes form inmates, guards, family members and everything.
Yeah, that’s the problem with bias. Fishy stuff gets past ENB because it never occurs to her to look into things that show up on her Twitter feed and confirm her previous biases.
Or since it is just a Quick Hit, she figures you can read the article yourself and figure out what you think. The whole friggin' idea of a Quick Hit is to give the readers something to read and discuss over their morning coffee.
Are you actually ENB, White Mike?
Caw caw!
The whole friggin’ idea of a Quick Hit is to give the readers something to read and discuss over their morning coffee.
Cite?
Sounds indistinguishable from "the whole point is to under or misinform people who only care inasmuch as they project that they're caring" to me.
"I'd be interested in who actually broke Boo Radley's, or whomever's, neck but...welp... I finished my coffee."
"Iranian climber Elnaz Rekabi has returned to Tehran, after competing in an international competition without a hijab and subsequently apologizing."
But as long as she wore a mask, she would not face the wrath of the morality police in the US.
A new study from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) finds no scientific evidence to back up bite mark analysis as a crime-solving tool.
Unrelated, NIST members now only meet at night and eschew garlic at the meetings.
"A main focus all along has been on women's rights, with many Iranian women removing their headscarves in protest. But protesters have also moved beyond this, decrying Iranian dictatorship more generally.
But what about Iranian sex workers?
I just want to know why they are trying to end democracy. Isnt that the narrative for being against current admins?
They're all a bunch of Christo-fascists. Iran has one of the best gender affirming medical care programs in the world.
100% of Iranian scientists say you can't beat a 100% cure rate. Consensus! Science!
The protesters in Iran are nobody's Fascists, whether Islamo-, Christo-, or Anyo-, and a big portion have no religion. Rest assured, any compulsory snip-snipping will get it's comeuppance when they overthrow the Mullahs and Ayatollahs.
Tax code adjusted for inflation.
BUT THAT WILL BE AFTER THE MID-TERMS. Who's running the show over there.
"Why did the FBI raid this ABC News producer's home?"
He must have done some protesting at an abortion clinic.
Or not at a white guilt seminar or DNC fundraiser on Jan 6.
Maybe more of a stink should have been raised over the FBI targeting Project Veritas as they have...
Nope, it's only a problem when it happens to the good guys.
Ask any non progressive media person. They all know, and it's a regularnoccurance for them
...suggesting Cato scholars be charged w TREASON bc of our Jones Act criticism...
There are far better reasons to charge Cato with treason.
You beat me to it. They are guilty of the crime but not for the reason stated.
Like?
This is where Mike exposes his lack of google awareness.
Along with his tiresome lack of sense of humor and willful refusal to understand hyperbole.
Every time we try to send our little right-wing echo chamber signaling jokes to each other, Laursen spoils it!
He probably doesn’t even find the Babylon Bee to be super hilarious.
Cite?
You spoil it. You are right about that. You don't ever want to make a valid or interesting point. Instead, you just engage in pedantry and willful misunderstanding of what is being said.
How many more times are people going to have to give you examples of kids undergoing trans surgery before you stop making the unsupported claim that it isn't happening. Jesus fucking Christ the hospitals are advertising it and the trans activists are claiming it is a human right.
Nobody has come up with an example of a trans person getting genital surgery under the age of 18 in the US in the last 22 years. Maybe someone should actually come up with an example before doing victory laps.
Even now, you aren't even accurately restating what I claimed. You are leaving out the parts where I specifically made a claim about GENITAL surgery, UNDER 18, in the US. While it is true I didn't originally specify IN RECENT TIMES, I thought that was just understood.
Nobody has come up with an example of a trans person getting genital surgery under the age of 18 in the US in the last 22 years.
Note the weasel wording White Mike does here. He deliberately cherry-picks "genital surgery" (Briggs used "trans surgery," not "genital surgery") to mask that fact that teenage girls are being given unnecessary masectomies, and is promoted by medical doctors:
"Plast Reconstr Surg Glob Open. 2019 Jun; 7(6): e2316.
Published online 2019 Jun 12. doi: 10.1097/GOX.0000000000002316
PMCID: PMC6635198
PMID: 31624695
Mastectomy in Transgender and Cisgender Patients: A Comparative Analysis of Epidemiology and Postoperative Outcomes
Nicholas G. Cuccolo, BS,* Christine O. Kang, MD, MHS, MS,* Elizabeth R. Boskey, MPH, PhD,corresponding author* Ahmed M.S. Ibrahim, MD, PhD,† Louise L. Blankensteijn, MD,† Amir Taghinia, MD,* Bernard T. Lee, MD, MPH, MBA,† Samuel J. Lin, MD, MBA,† and Oren Ganor, MD*"
There's numerous references to girls getting masectomies for this purpose, particularly in the last 3 years or so. They're not that hard to find even with a simple Google search, but we know that White Mike will use the "gish gallop" excuse when he's shown to be a lying sack of shit.
Here's the Children's Hospital of Boston:
The Center for Gender Surgery at Boston Children's Hospital offers gender affirmation surgery services to eligible adolescents and young adults who are ready to take this step in their journey.
Considering trans surgeries cover an array of procedures, it's easy to mark White Mike's mendaciousness when he employs the No True Scotsman fallacy to claim that only genital surgery is actual gender transition surgery.
He had to add 22 years since it was proven his prior statements were lies. He keeps retreating to the smallest counter argument to use to defense against the entirey of gender surgeries.
right-wing echo chamber signaling jokes
Examples please.
It’s funny how little self-awareness you have.
Bird brains are easy to fool.
Ca-caw!
Slit your wrist you sealioning retard
This new wave of Younger Cato is far inferior than the Elder Cato.
One, Treason under the U.S. Constitution consists only of acts not thoughts or words.
Two, Cato needs to counter-charge The Transportation Department with Treason, since upholding The Jones Act makes Alaska unable to use it's own damn oil and makes Alaska dependent on hostile foreign powers for oil, giving those hostile foreign powers aid and comfort. Same likewise with The Jones Act blocking aid to Puerto Rico, which makes the Protectorate vulnerable to infiltration by hostile nations such as Cuba.
Really, the whole damn regulatory system that cripples independent business in the U.S. is an amalgamation of Treason!
Attention pro-military patriots! This is what's at stake in the midterm election.
There are reports that if our nightmare comes true and Republicans capture the House, it might be slightly more difficult for Biden to keep spending billions on his proxy war against Russia. Reason contributor Cathy Young reacts: Nice signal to Putin that he can turn this thing around if he can just wait until November and the Republicans win. So done with the GOP
Everybody got that?
If you want the US to continue indefinitely its proxy war against a nuclear power, you must vote Democrat.
#LibertariansForProxyWars
Because Young has been such a staunch GOP supporter in the past that her "being done" with them changes anything. I seem to recall Young being a regular peacenik back in her salad days of "George Bush's Wars". I have to admit, her transformation from "no blood for oil" peacenik to Dr. Strangelove happened so gradually I didn't even notice.
What a hideous woman. She is just loathsome.
Libertarian magazine contributor is quite angry that the GOP...does not want to spend more billions on a non-war that has no bearing on us.
it is pretty hard to hear the anti-war protest over the constant, loud beating of war drums by the Democrats
And contains the non zero risk of destroying the world.
in all my life, growing up in america, from what i've seen, war is only bad when a Bush does it. I'm serious. I have literally never seen MSM criticism, or public protests, of any military action other than the Bush wars. It's pretty remarkable.
Yes. By 2009, people who were paying attention realized that the Democrat’s ‘anti-war’ sentiment of the early ’00s was just political posturing.
In fact, the ONLY time I can recall the media calling Trump “Presidential” was when he bombed Syria. (?)
https://www.politicususa.com/2021/08/31/the-media-called-trump-presidential-for-bombing-syria-but-blew-up-bidens-approval-rating-for-leaving-afghanistan.html
#protectPutin
Gotta love our principled libertarian journalists.
And so sharp. They literally believe anything they are told to believe. It is quite the skill.
They are on the payroll of the intelligence services and defense contractors. The Republicans are not going to cut off money to Ukraine. They might, however, ask where all of the money is going. And that is what whoever is dumb enough to pay Young for anything is worried about.
Wait, does this mean Russia has switched US election collusion from the GOP to the Democrats?
Wait, if I'm pro-military, wouldn't I want that money spent on our own army rather than someone else's?
According to the Distaff Dr. Strangelove all your money should go to the army. Whose army it is is besides the point.
Again,
Libertarianism 2001: No blood for oil!
Libertarianism 2022: As long as it's other peoples' blood and oil, send money!
I can't wait for the next revolution that overthrows the Iranian Republic and then starts throwing women in prison for choosing to wear the hijab.
Somebody has to go to prison.
Why not the Mullahs, Ayatollahs, and The Revolutionary Guard?
Why did the FBI raid this ABC News producer's home?
The feds ran out of natsec secrets to leak?
If criticizing the Jones Act is treason, what do we call chanting "Let's go Brandon"?
Sedition?
Insurrection.
Wednesday.
Nascar Fandom?
Hey reason! Letitia James ran for office on a promise that she would misuse her office for purely partisan political purposes.
You did worse than nothing. You cheered.
And now you act surprised that this is not her only transgression?
We libertarians stand on principle for a reason.
The Cato Institute is suing the Biden administration over student loan forgiveness plan.
Treasonous! And probably racist.
Why did the FBI raid this ABC News producer's home?
Now it matters? PV was raided a while ago.
ENB, any interest in the DoJ going after non violent protestors under the FACE act? A democrat was charged now so you can pay attention now.
He stole a fake diary that totally didn't have anything scandalous in it. I mean, he didn't actually steal it. Someone brought it to him and he tried to return it and they wouldn't take it and then he gave it to the cops. But you know...
That is completely different.
Today I learned Reason cares when the FBI raids journalists AND the government labels people traitors.
It’s pathetic how partisan ENB is.
“It was always unreasonable, and is becoming unwise, to expect [Musk] to provide Internet to Ukraine for free forever. Western allies should pay,” said Frum, who is currently an editor at The Atlantic and an MSNBC contributor. “And US should have a plan ready to nationalize Starlink fast if Musk cuts off Ukraine's connection to advance his political agenda.”
https://instapundit.com/548819/
David Frum is on the short list of most obnoxious, stupid, and immoral people in the major media.
That does not count as obnoxious.
And if he is saying it, someone told him to say it. Dude is a mouthpiece.
I will just repost my comment regarding Cathy Young with Frum's name substituted for Young's here. It is equally applicable to both.
They are on the payroll of the intelligence services and defense contractors. The Republicans are not going to cut off money to Ukraine. They might, however, ask where all of the money is going. And that is what whoever is dumb enough to pay Frum for anything is worried about.
It's obnoxious to say that the West has some obligation to provide free internet in the Ukraine. And very obnoxious that he immediately goes to nationalizing Starlink if he doesn't like something Musk does.
Not the West but a private company.
Obnoxious is yelling "Go Sox" at a Yankees game.
Trump goes way beyond benign obnoxiousness. Goebbels' minions were a lot of things, but they were not properly categorized as "obnoxious", any more than a San Francisco tent city in August is properly categorized as "odiferous". True, but woefully insufficient.
Hey, why else did people hang those little Ukrainian flags everywhere?
Whenever I see a cultural grab for a symbol it reminds me of the movie The Wave about the high school experiment showing how people get caught up in virtue signaling even when not virtuous as an explanation for how Hitler came to power.
See also people who changed their social media profile to them wearing a mask during the pandemic. Of all the things that happened during the pandemic, that trend creeped me out the most in some way. It was just so casually conformist.
The same people changed them to the I've been stabbed pictures once they started getting "vaccinated".
The people who got tattoos of them being vaccinated are the worst.
I see it more harshly: for the hyper-partisan such dedicated signaling is a sign of profound intolerance for anyone not in the tribe. As said by many, "I wear a mask so that nobody thinks I am a Republican."
It is an expression of tribalism at its most pure.
I keep saying that I'm waiting for the 'big reveal' from The Wave that we've been following Hitler the whole time.
And if he is saying it, someone told him to say it. Dude is a mouthpiece.
That's the key here. It's not just Starlink; Musk has benefitted wildly from federal tax breaks for Tesla and his Falcon rockets are launching US defense satellites into orbit.
Someone from the Deep State's warning Musk that he might be one of their Made Men, but those guys can still get whacked if the upper bosses--in this case, the intel agencies and DoD--give permission. Frum is basically the equivalent of a guido enforcer telling Musk, "Nice property you got here, be a shame if something happened to it."
Why should he give free service after Ukraine literally told him to fuck off?
Why should he give paid service? He is under no obligation to sell his services to anyone.
Why does the left have "nationalize" on speed dial?
For the same reason Biden has porn sites that relate to sniffing little girls' hair on his browser's favorites list; it is a fetish.
Like Biden would have any idea how to use a web browser.
Cite?
If you dig deep enough into the past Reason comments, Biden and Buttplug were probably using the same sites.
Stfu.
And "everything" on control-V
And US should have a plan ready to nationalize Starlink fast if Musk cuts off Ukraine’s connection to advance his political agenda
What happened to Private Company?
That is only if the uniparty supports it.
And if they are, um, properly curating content.
US should have a plan ready to nationalize Starlink fast if Musk cuts off Ukraine’s connection to advance his political agenda
That escalated quickly. I mean Holy Fuck it went from "Starlink can't can't continue to provide service for free." to "The US should be subsidizing infrastructure distinctly antagonistically in a potentially hot nuclear war in order to spite Elon Musk." in like 9 words.
The Miami Herald takes a horrifying look at the treatment of Craig Ridley, who starved to death inside a Florida prison.
I'd hate to be those corrections officers or their supervisors right now.
Why? It's not like anything will happen other than a paid vacation, or at worst leave without pay during a sham trial followed by back-pay and a promotion.
You've become so cynical that you're no longer able to recognize that Fist is making a joke based on what you just wrote.
When I say sarc’s broken, I’m not being hyperbolic.
Hey, it is no D.C. jail for J6 prisoners where it is so bad they petitioned to be sent to Gitmo.
Despite an 83% increase in heart issues for children from a vaccine that gives them little protection, cdc is going to try to add covid vaccine to the regular schedule to require them for schooling.
Alexander Tin @Alexander_Tin Replying to @KelleyKga
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@angryarlmom and 3 others A @CDCgov official also said this at a recent webinar: . “stay tuned for next week’s ACIP meeting that will be discussed about the COVID-19 vaccines appearing on the child, and adolescent– child, adolescent, and adult schedules”
https://getrevue.co/profile/alexander_tin/issues/notes-for-10-17-2022-1413181
Social media continues to lock out doctors for discussing the risks of the vaccine.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/social-media-platforms-target-cardiologist-who-went-booster-critic
And probably not wearing a hijab.
Hmmm...hijab / getthejab. Coincidence?
at least they won't loose their license like they would if the doctor is from California where Newsom is now the holder of all science truths
meanwhile the UK found some sanity and stopped vaxxing kids under 5
Moderna said not to use their vaccines if under 50.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/moderna-ceo-splits-with-cdc-on-covid-booster-shots-for-healthy-folks-under-50
TREASON!
Even though Moderna and Pfizer are permanently shielded from lawsuits over vaccine injury by the CDC, it sounds like their CEO is a bit nervous about other countries cornholing him and tanking the stock.
And Pfizer now admits that the vaccine was never tested for nor intended to stop the spread of the virus. Yet, the CEO of Pfizer is on record all over the place during the spring and summer of 2021 claiming the vaccine was needed to stop the spread of the virus.
Pfizer has immunity from suits for the virus being unsafe but it doesn't have immunity from suits relating to fraud. The state AGs need to sue their sorry asses into bankruptcy for claiming their vaccine did something they knew it didn't do.
"This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated," Biden said in the full interview. "The unvaccinated. Not the vaccinated, the unvaccinated. That’s the problem. Everybody talks about freedom and not to have a shot or have a test. Well guess what? How about patriotism? How about making sure that you’re vaccinated, so you do not spread the disease to anyone else."
Did facebook label this as dangerous misinformation? How could this provably incorrect lie be overlooked by the DGB?
They did take down anyone claiming it was even slightly shading the truth.... So, that is the same thing, isn't it?
Hey, his wife's a doctor! Anything he says on this is The Science, second only to Dr. Science Fauci himself.
Biden: How about making sure that you’re vaccinated, so you do not spread the disease to anyone else.”
This can't be true. Laursen just told us last week no one ever claimed the vaccine stopped covid from spreading.
Hilariously, the people (like myself) who tried to get the virus ASAP --so we wouldn't spread the disease to anyone else -- were vilified as selfish, grandma-hating serial killers.
Ooh, I know! We should nationalize them!
Hush!
Well, requiring tax dollars to pay for them was kind of nationalizing them, but only in a good way.
We nationalized the cost and the risks. The profits remain private.
Corporatism at its best.
Pushing it for children is just fucking evil. I think most people have figured out that kids don't need it. I hope enough people show some spine and refuse.
The claim was the kids needed it not because they were in any danger but because they would get the virus and spread it to adults who were. It is bad enough that they expected children to bear the risk of the vaccine to save adults, exactly the opposite of how it is supposed to work. Worse, they knew the vaccine didn't stop the spread of the virus and demanded kids take it anyway. They wanted those kids to take the vaccine because it made them money.
Evil indeed.
I wouldn't go so far as to call it evil. Most definitely unnecessary.
How is it not evil to push unproven and unnecessary chemicals into children?
They knew it was dangerous. They knew that kids were at statistically zero risk of having a serious case of COVID. They knew the vaccine didn't stop the spread of the virus. They lied and said it did so they could get people to give the vaccine to kids so they could make money.
If putting millions of kids at risk of heart conditions and God knows what else for no benefit beyond making money is not evil, I would like to hear an example of what is evil in your mind.
The Pfizer trials even said the findings for children benefitting were statistically zero, they found no benefit.
But sarc doesn't give a shit. Narrative above the truth.
He falls back to the same defense that leftists always use after they cause some horrible disaster, "mistakes were made". It was unnecessary but Pfizer and Moderna meant well.
Why don't you girls have a little sewing circle and discuss what you believe I'm thinking, and then call me a liar when I disagree with the voices in your head?
Oh, wait...
We know what you are thinking; it was unnecessary but not "evil". You told us. And that is complete fucking nonsense. If you don't like that being pointed out, get smarter. Stop being so fucking stupid and you wouldn't get beat up and have your lunch money taken so often on here.
In your dreams, bub.
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I wouldn’t go so far as to call it evil. Most definitely unnecessary.
Did someone hack your account? If not, that is exactly what you think. That is total bullshit. It was pure evil. They put millions of kids at risk for the soul purpose of making money.
I was talking about you stealing my lunch money, moron. Read past the first sentence in you own comment.
Also, the obvious implication in your comment is that the only explanation for anyone disagreeing with you is stupidity. You're saying you're the smartest person in the world. Sure, bub. Whatever you say.
Tomorrow JesseAz will tell similar lies, and you'll jump right on in agreeing with whatever he says about me. I will at least give you credit for not calling me a liar when I disagree with the voices in his head.
You said what you thought: It’s not evil. You were criticized for that. Then you cried that people were acting like they knew what you’re thinking.
Did you have a stroke or something? This is becoming a daily occurrence.
If a Democrat checked their mail you'd say the Post Office is evil.
Who said these people were even Democrat? I am talking about two corporations. Make an argument. Sorry but "you just hate them because they are Democrats" is not an argument you fucking retard. What the fuck is wrong with you?
I agree it was unnecessary to vaccinate children, but dangerous and "putting millions of kids at risk of heart conditions and God knows what else". That's blatant exaggeration.
Cite?
No, it isn't. The vaccines increase risk of heart problems, particularly in younger men and boys. The risk may not be huge compared to others we face, but it is still adding unnecessary risk.
And, more importantly, kids are statistically at zero risk from covid, so all we're doing is adding real risk from the jabs FOR NO BENEFIT.
Is it an exaggeration like claiming Republicans believe rioting is ok? Just curious because your statement seems to imply exaggeration is wrong yet you do it routinely. There is one consistent principle to when you do it and when you claim it is wrong though.
I intentionally used a number even the CDC has now admitted to dumbass.
pushing experimental meds on kids who get no benefit from them, for profit motive or religious dogmatic reasons (its one or the other with the democrats) is evil
mRNA vaccines have been in development for decades, and in use for a couple years now. They're well beyond beyond "experimental." So I don't accept that premise.
I wholeheartedly agree that there's absolutely no need at all to vaccinate children for COVID. The odds of a kid dying from the disease are on par with winning the lottery without a ticket.
They knew there was no need and it wouldn't stop the spread of the virus and gave it to them any way because it meant more money. The vaccine has risks. Every vaccine does. No matter what you think of the risk, they put tens of millions of kids at risk for no benefit beyond making money.
Again, if that isn't evil, what is?
Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity and incompetence.
Someone willing to harm other people for the sole purpose of benefiting themselves, is the definition of malice you fucking moron. My God, use a dictionary once in a while.
I already told you I do not accept the premise that this is an experimental drug. The people pushing it on kids are dipshits who truly believe that everyone should be vaccinated. They don't accept the fact that children are at a negligible risk of being harmed by the virus. They're well-meaning, but stupid. If I accepted your premise that this is an experimental drug I might agree with you. But I don't, so I don't.
I already told you I do not accept the premise that this is an experimental drug.
So what? Experimental doesn't mean the same thing as without risks. Fine, it wasn't experimental. But it still came with risks. Every vaccine does. So, your rejection of that premise is besides the point.
The people pushing it on kids are dipshits who truly believe that everyone should be vaccinated.
Because they wanted to make money. The didn't believe that vaccinating kids would stop the spread. They are admitting that now. They didn't believe that vaccinating kids would keep them from getting sick with COVID. They admitted kids were not going to sick from it at the time. They claimed kids should be vaccinated to stop the spread. They knew that wasn't true. They lied because they wanted the money.
You seem to be confusing the companies and the useful idiots who listened to what the companies said. The companies were evil. The idiots were idiots and were likely evil as well because people were disputing the companies and they refused to listen. That, however, is a different question. The companies were evil. And that is the point.
The SAME companies saying there was no benefit were the ones pushing this crap on kids.
And meaning well doesn't mean you are not evil. The communists meant well. What could be a greater good than universal peace and justice? The biggest evils ever committed against humanity were done by people who sincerely meant well and thought they were doing the right thing. You have a very poor understanding of the nature of evil. If meaning well kept you from being evil, very few people would ever be seduced by it.
You seem to be confusing the companies and the useful idiots who listened to what the companies said. The companies were evil. The idiots were idiots and were likely evil as well because people were disputing the companies and they refused to listen.
I can accept that.
OMG, it's amazing that the right has taken on the left's corporate greed arguments.
OMG, it’s amazing that the right has taken on the left’s corporate greed arguments.
+2 sarcasm points
OMG, it’s amazing that the right has taken on the left’s corporate greed arguments.
And the left suddenly developed a weird trust in Big Pharma. What a world!
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OMG, it’s amazing that the right has taken on the left’s corporate greed arguments.
And the left suddenly developed a weird trust in Big Pharma. What a world!
Gee Zeb. It is like the world is a complex place or something and not the cartoon world that idiots like Laurson and Chemjeff think it is. Yeah, sometimes corporations are greedy and straight up evil because they are human institutions and humans are sometimes greedy and evil. Who know? Right?
Only Mike Laurson could hear that and think "you are just a hypocrite". You can't reason with someone like him.
LOL, Briggs, you are the one pushing a simplistic view of the world, in which people you disagree with cannot possibly have any good intentions (for no other reason than that you have decreed they cannot possibly have any good intentions).
Sarc refuses to call it evil because he spent 3 years pushing the narratives used to push this shit. Vaccines are perfectly safe. It isnt a big deal. Youre a pussy if you do your own risk analysis and refuse to get it. It stops the spread.
He can’t say he is evil because he got caught up in the narratives. And he will never admit he was wrong despite all the evidence that has come out.
So he reverts to youre a right wing troll for calling it evil.
It is a literal violation of NAP to make money and push fear. The original studies showed no benefits to children. Sarc doesn't care.
One of these days you'll say something about me that's actually true and based upon things I actually said, as opposed to yelling at the voices in your head.
Just kidding. That will never happen.
"...One of these days you’ll say something about me that’s actually true..."
You're a slimy pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die.
Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity and incompetence.
The pandemic response over the last couple years, particularly the vitriol directed toward anyone questioning any word uttered by Dr. Science Fauci, have more than demonstrated malice. Openly cheering for people's deaths because they, after weighing the risks and benefits of a given medical procedure, came to a different conclusion that you would have makes you a horrible person. Actively trying to destroy people's lives over it, removing their access to food, employment, medical care, education, as these people were pushing for, makes you evil.
Dissemble. Deflect. Distract.
Repeat lies. When challenged, claim 'that's not what they said'. When proven wrong, feign being personally attacked. Sarcasmic is the textbook lefty shill.
Stupidity and incompetence isn’t how people get rich.
I don't see that it is so ironclad truth that they vaccinated kids because "it meant more money". There was genuine concern for public health, even if you don't want to acknowledge that your political opponents can have good intentions.
IF you were genuinely concerned about public health, you wouldn't have told kids to get a vaccine that didn't stop the transmission of a virus they were in no danger of getting sick from.
Did you just not read the post or did you read the post and are so fucking stupid you think "but they meant well" is a sensible response to a detailed explanation of how they couldn't have meant well.
I honestly wonder if maybe the problem here is that no one ever taught you deductive logic. Your response is only sensible if you look at the issue without any ability to deduce logical implications from known facts.
“they couldn’t have meant well”
You have demonstrated no such thing.
Yes I have. It is self evident. You just cant' see it because you don't know how to do deductive reasoning.
The only basis for this supposed self-evident truth is your feelz on the matter. That’s straight outta the Left playbook, too.
Learn to read. I didn’t say *I* wanted kids to be vaccinated out of concern for public health. I said that *they* may well have, if we give *them* the benefit of the doubt for having good intentions.
Which “they”. The vaguely-defined “they” you are railing against.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
There was genuine concern for public health,
We can dismiss this as motivation though by noting the numerous times their advice changed to track politics rather than health evaluations.
"mRNA vaccines have been in development for decades"
This isn't even remotely fucking true. They came up with the theory of mRNA vaccines decades ago, but have only had the ability to create them thanks to technology like CRISPR in the last decade.
And for the last decade, and running, they’ve been nothing more than catastrophic failures. Even looking past their direct side effects and efficacy and just at the meta promises they were supposed to alleviate.
One of the main advantages was, conceptually, to tailor a vaccine to a variant without the need to isolate and culture at scale but, it turns out, in order to identify and study a variant, you have to culture it anyway and the logistics of producing, testing (or not), and distributing vaccines were far greater than the initial isolation/culture. And this issue is amplified relative to any given virus's mutation rate.
Don't forget, White Mike was pimping these things HARD and outright claimed that they were one of the greatest inventions to come out of the pandemic.
Sarc did extensive research on the mRNA wikipedia page. He is now an expert.
"This isn’t even remotely fucking true. "
And even if everything he said was spot on, it would still mean this would be the test run for using them on humans. We dont have decades of data like we do with traditional vaccines, this was the first major run and we were the guinea pigs.
Due to my job I got the initial and signed up for the risk of the new tech. But its not something ill subject my kids to. And pretending this is all settled science we have tons of data for (esp in kids) is disingenuous. It is immoral to sign a kid up for an experimental med they will gain essentially zero benefit from.
“we were the guinea pigs.”
I wasn’t.
That doesn't contradict what I said.
Yes it does. It's like saying time travel has been in development for decades because people dream about it and come up with theories.
mRNA vaccines have been in development for decades, and in use for a couple years now. They’re well beyond beyond “experimental.” So I don’t accept that premise.
Tell me you'd put an entire a bag of monkeypox-covered dicks into your body if Fauci told you to accept them without literally saying it.
He doesn't need Dr. Fauci to tell him to do that.
Some day sarc will show up here even drunker than normal and tell us all the stories of when he was homeless.
mRNA vaccines have been in development for decades, and in use for a couple years now.
Which has jack shit to do with the fact that the two companies who made the most money from this are now admitting that their shitty product doesn't prevent transmission, and are even cautioning people not to take it at certain stages. All it's confirming is that these products were a placebo and a social control mechanism by WEF thralls.
And this is all assuming that the actual death counts from COVID are even accurate, and weren't gamed by hospitals to report ordinary deaths as COVID deaths because they had a financial incentive to do so.
My father in law has advanced diabetes so bad, he is legally blind, deaf and on kidney dialysis. He got COVID last summer and didn't even go in the hospital. It was a mild flu. He recovered fine.
That makes me think the whole thing really was a fucking hoax. If it won't kill him, I have a hard time believing it killed anyone.
"If it won’t kill him, I have a hard time believing it killed anyone."
What? It is very well documented that COVID-19 killed millions of people.
No it isn't. It is well documented that millions of people died who tested positive for COVID. It is almost certain that most of those people died of other causes. They were dying of something else and happened to get COVID.
Again, I really think the problem is you were never taught informal logic and deductive reasoning. Or if you were taught, you suffer from some kind of learning disability that prevents you from doing it. Every point you make shows the inability to draw logical conclusions from known facts.
Whatever.
Yes, I understand the whole issue of not distinguishing in data collection the people who died WITH COVID-19 from people who died FROM COVID-19. Even so, taking that into account, is well documented that the latter category clearly had millions of deaths.
Current world COVID death count (and, yes, that includes some percentage of “with COVID” deaths): 6.57 million.
How many people die every year mike?
Chris Christie survived covid.
But these specific vaccines are experimental. They have not been tested to the degree that other vaccines have been and the mRNA tech has never been widely deployed before. That's fine under an EUA for people at particular risk, but is hugely unethical to push on the whole population without properly informing them of the known risks and what we do and don't know about them.
It was done solely to make money. There was, literally, zero scientific justification for any of it. That is rather evil, but YMMV.
From the government's side, there was also the control aspect and the punishing members of the rival party aspect.
Soon we're going to be at a point where Europe is suing the vax makers and America is trying to mandate jabs for kids.
Fucking insanity.
But getting the shot on the vax schedule has always been the holy grail, and that's why the 'experts' have NEVER ONCE actually looked at risk/reward scenarios.
Government officials are commonly using encrypted apps and phone calls to get around record keep requirements to avoid FOIA requests.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/transparency-securities-exchange-commission-sec-ferc-foia-fra-records-keeping-transparency-biden-white-house-11665440298
I'm sure the FBI will send agents soon to take phones and investigate.
It is different when Democrats do it. I am sure reason will be writing about the need to prosecute them to preserve the "rule of law" real soon. Right?
Have there been mean tweets targeting the media heroes of Reason staff?
Government officials are commonly using encrypted apps and phone calls to get around record keep requirements to avoid FOIA requests.
This is why Hillary used her own server. No one in the corporate media, even on the right, really discussed that. The classified materials issue was just a collateral consequence, but everyone zeroed in on that because it was so black-and-white that even Sean Hannity could understand it.
One trick is to add a FOUO or CUI qualifier to material, because that's unclassified information that can only be released to the public after a review. It's normally meant to protect OPSEC-related info like personnel figures, installation assets, and the like, but the practice of overclassification is pretty common already, and this is just another way they can justify hiding information.
Now we see why no call logs exist between Drago and the FBI.
Our betters are looking out for us!
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/us-agency-to-look-into-project-on-lab-made-coronavirus-70645
This one only has a 90% fatality rate. I guess wiping out 90% or more of humanity is one way to solve that global warming problem. The scary thing is that I really believe that someone like Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates would turn such a virus loose on humanity if they had the chance. I am not kidding. The global elite have gone insane. These people make Pol Pot seem like a thoughtful intellectual.
Nice thing about 90% fatality rates, are they tend to be self containing. You don't have people with no symptoms carrying it around to others, and it quickly kills off it's transmission vectors. Because shockingly people don't travel to areas where 90% of people are dying.
Yes. That is a very good point. I don't believe that you could ever have a virus that would kill even 2/3rd of the population like the black plague did today. When the plague hit, people didn't know what was causing it or how to stop it spreading. Today we know what causes it. So, if a virus is really deadly, it won't spread very far because the people with it die. Virus's that spread far and wide are virus that don't generally kill their hosts. So, there is a trade off between lethality and contagion.
The closest you could get would be a virus that is deadly, has a long incubation period before symptoms occur, and is very contagious during that period. The thought of such a virus is very scary. I do not think such a virus will ever exist naturally and I doubt they could make one in a lab, though you can never be sure.
Someone will try to. The good is the fucked are too incompetent to pull it off.
Well, it seems like they might be trying.
I do not think such a virus will ever exist naturally and I doubt they could make one in a lab, though you can never be sure.
The issue isn't so much making one in the lab as much as making one knowingly useful, in the lab, in secret. You can model the biology on a computer and do some of the work without many people knowing and/or the people doing the work knowing what they're doing but, as evidenced with COVID and the COVID vaccines itself, you need lots and lots of test subjects to reliably predict real world outcomes on a national or global scale.
They don't need to actually kill 90% of the population, though. They just need it to be scary enough to cow the population into submissive obedience.
Seems they’ve got that down.
Hilarious. Some Trumptard was in the Gavin Newsome lockdown thread yesterday claiming that no conservative poster here ever repeated the 'Gates culling the population' CT.
I believe it was Designate or longtobefree? They are both bone-crushing idiots.
They make no secret of their desire to greatly reduce the human population. You think it is hilarious because you are a moron who thinks you are not going to be one of the ones culled. You will be the first one culled. Creatures like you always are.
Never forget turd lies. It's what he does.
Why are you back from the Tenderloin so early today?
You know, you can admit your gay bath-house ways here.
Live in a glass house? You got banned from here for posting dark web child porn links, asshole.
Banned? WTF are you talking about? I've never been banned.
LOL, yeah, that's why you admitted you were banned after you put up another burner email account.
Just in case anyone believes turd’s lies, Overt posted the receipts.
https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635696
Hey, remember that time you got banned from this site for posting links to child pornography? We remember it. Fuck off and die, pedo.
No, I said none of the posters here seriously said the vaccines had microchips in them.
God, even when you’re trying to burn somebody you fuck it up.
Come on! The universe would not make these mega-billionaires unless they have the super intelligence and moral authority to properly control humanity.
Well, 80%, but what's a 10% difference between friends?
The scary thing is that I really believe that someone like Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates would turn such a virus loose on humanity if they had the chance.
I don't know about Gates, but Schwab definitely would if he thought he could get away with it and it wouldn't hit him, too. He and his people are loony enough to believe that everyone should have a chip implanted in their head and that it's possible to prevent death (Trump's son-in-law Kushner blabbed the latter delusion during an interview a few weeks ago).
These people are afflicted by a transhumanism cult mentality, and unfortunately they have the capability to use the entire planet as a lab for their dumb ideas.
These people make Pol Pot seem like a thoughtful intellectual.
It's time to taste what you most fear
Pfizer will not help you here...
Why did the FBI raid this ABC News producer's home?
Did he say something critical of Biden, much like Sharyl Atkisson did with Obama, shortly before having her home raided?
He was writing a book about the botched Afghanistan withdrawal and subsequent civilian-led rescue missions.
Anonymous sources claim the FBI found allegedly classified material on a laptop during the raid.
Also, hasn't been seen since the raid, which was 6 months ago.
Did anyone else see Fox News at Night's takedown of ENB's "Don't Believe the People Blaming Crime on Defunded Police" from yesterday's Roundup?
Was it a takedown of the point in general or specifically of ENB?
It was a takedown of the article.
Is that on the net? I missed it but I would like to see that.
It's on the Fox site, but you need to log in. It was around the 45-minute mark if you can find it.
Thank you.
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2022/10/14/jp-morgan-chase-bank-attacked-religious-liberty-n503254
What shocked and surprised me the most was when someone from Chase eventually reached out to our executive director and informed him that it would be willing to reconsider doing business with the NCRF if we would provide our donor list, a list of political candidates we intended to support, and a full explanation of the criteria by which we would endorse and support those candidates. It was entirely inappropriate to ask for this type of information. Does Chase ask every customer what politicians they support and why before deciding whether or not to accept them as a customer?
Not woke? We'll make you broke.
Brownback's mistake was not naming the person who called him.
^
These fascists need to be named.
The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Trump Supporter
And it’s not gender, age, income, race or religion.
I’ve found a single statistically significant variable predicts whether a voter supports Trump—and it’s not race, income or education levels: It’s authoritarianism.
That’s right, Trump’s electoral strength—and his staying power—have been buoyed, above all, by Americans with authoritarian inclinations.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533/
Funny. They do this sort of study every time around. And whoever is doing the research turns out to be on the same side as the most intelligent, moral, selfless, patriotic, giving, well informed and wise people in the study.
And who gave you a talking point from 6 years ago to post this morning?
It is an interesting question whether he funds his child porn habit with Soros money or not. He clearly gets a set of talking points every day. Whether anyone is dumb enough to pay him to post them remains a mystery.
a Ph.D. candidate in political science at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, where he is writing his dissertation about authoritarianism.
Betting he only sees authoritarianism on one side of the Uniparty.
And does anyone want to wager that Mr. MacWilliams' definition of "authoritarian" is, shall we say,....idiosyncratic? We've been through a period over the last few years where the "authoritarian" label has been tossed at any view or opinion that is not that of the Cathedral, including suggestions that the Cathedral's preferences shouldn't be mandated. The term has become about as meaningless as "racist" or "insurrection".
It's not authoritarian if I demand it.
The loyalty of Trump's base cannot be explained any other way.
Face it, he was a political disaster for the GOP. Lost the House in 2018 and then the Senate and presidency in 2020.
The closest to this Trump phenomena is the Pope. The Pope is the ultimate authority and devout Catholics don't question his authority. The Pope can do no wrong by them by virtue of his title.
"Lost the House in 2018"
That right there proves your point. I learned in college the party that controls the Presidency N - E - V - E - R loses the House in the first midterm. It's simply unprecedented in American history.
Which is why Democrats should hold the House under Biden; otherwise I'll blame Russian hacking and / or Jim Crow 2.0.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a TDS-addled pile of shit, a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
The loyalty of Trump’s base cannot be explained any other way.
Not really. Unlike most high-profile politicians, Democrat or Republican, Trump does not show open contempt for the average voter. That was, literally, like 90% of his appeal in 2016. Since then, he delivered on what they wanted. What they wanted, and not what you or the corporate media or the Uniparty say they should want.
Also, fuck off, pedo.
Like Elizabeth Warren? She's got authoritarian inclinations. Or maybe Hillary Clinton? Barack Obama? AOC?
Authoritarian? Hardly. Those are all strong womyn, whom we should obey without question.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
nothing more authoritarian than forced masking and forced using electricity when its not avaialable and forcing farmers to not grow things for the 'Climate" and now forcing child vaccines for something they won't get sick from. and who is doing all that forcing not Trump supporters
"The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Trump Supporter"
Id be more concerned about the overlaps on the Venn diagram for "DNC" "Biden" "MSM" and "pedophile"
Wanna bet Buttplug's at the center of that diagram?
The buttplug can be lethal.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
I'm sure it can. Full of e-coli, cholera, tapeworms, etc., found in your shit.
The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Pederast
And it’s not gender, age, income, race or religion.
I’ve found a single statistically significant variable predicts whether someone is a pederast—and it’s not race, income or education levels: It’s posting links to kiddie porn on comment boards.
That’s right, pederasty—and it's staying power—have been buoyed, above all, by Americans who post kiddie porn on comment boards.
The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether You’re a Trump Supporter
I'm not able to rightly comprehend the kind of thinking that leads one to honestly adopt buzz/spam titles in order to legitimize their 'research'/argument.
Like, at this point, you might as well publish "Come here all you retards that hate Trump and listen to my story." using the blink tag.
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https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2022/10/18/blackrock-gets-downgraded-for-the-increasing-political-risk-of-esg-investing-n1638130
Blackrock gets downgraded over ESG investing. The market doesn't work fast and individual results may vary, but eventually justice is done. You just have to be patient.
Who gives a fuck about ESG?
Is there any wingnut CT you don't glom on to?
Blackrock is one of the largest companies in the world and a leader in ESG investing. It is a big fucking deal. Stop lying and pretending otherwise.
Larry Fink is a great capitalist.
Never forget that. And quit bashing capitalism.
Never forget turd lies.
He is running his company in the ground because of ESG. Read the fucking article retard.
Fuckin' LOL at the kiddie diddler's hand-waving.
Kill yourself you pedo
fantastic news. more of this please.
What are you, his fucking little mini-me? Try to conjure up an original thought.
Briggs can't. He repeats Tucker Carlson gibberish. Don't listen to him.
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
lol you're doing great. keep it up.
Turn yourself in for your crimes against children.
I kinda predicted this a few days ago:
"Missouri State Treasurer Scott Fitzpatrick announced that the Missouri State Employees Retirement System (MOSERS) pulled $500 million in pension funds managed by BlackRock. Fitzpatrick cited his belief that BlackRock was ignoring its fiduciary responsibility in favor of forcing a political and social agenda."
https://reason.com/2022/10/15/the-rise-of-the-stake-holders/?comments=true#comment-9748009
"It’s pretty clear to me that the investment firms that are putting this evil ESG bullshit ahead of the interests of their clients and their assets, are in violation of their fiduciary responsibility to their clients."
20 paragraphs about an Iranian athlete facing troubles with her shitty government.
too long, didnt read.
Yes. We need more stories about Biden and Trump!!
Imagine being so stupid you think that’s the only alternative.
I assume now Danchenko is not guilty Hillary Clinton will be sworn in as President in January 2017
Trump's personal heroes were Roy Cohn and J Edgar Hoover.
Just muddy the shit up with lawyers until you die. Then when they find your lingerie no one will care.
Jesus F. Christ, you're active today. Was your NAMBLA meeting canceled?
Hoover's problem was he got exposed before dressing like your sister was kewl.
turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
>>Why did the FBI raid this ABC News producer's home?
wrong address.
"Due to bad timing, and the unanticipated call for me to climb the wall, my head covering inadvertently came off,"
Bullshit.
I feel less inclined to call bullshit on a lie that's being said because a girl is afraid of being murdered by mobs in her nation of origin.
Cut her some slack on that one.
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NBD, just a Maritime Administration committee doc (reluctantly provided after several FOIA requests) suggesting Cato scholars be charged w TREASON bc of our Jones Act criticism:
This is how government employees think. Consider how closely these actions track to an aristocratic lord believing any contradiction of his own decisions is treason. This is why they feel entitled to a life of luxury funded by ever greater shares of our production taken in taxes. This is the Deep State.
riots and fire because a girl climbed a wall and people saw her hair religion of submission
Today's DEI news: there are too many white people in the NHL.
"The NHL's first internal demographic study found its workforce to be overwhelmingly white.
Kim Davis, NHL EVP of social impact, growth and legislative affairs, says seeing the numbers is a first step toward fixing the problem."
https://twitter.com/AP_Sports/status/1582493338296532992?s=20&t=nO2Ax0aru7UjwHEeFPIp6g
Combine the NHL and the NFL.
Problem solved.
NBA players are disproportionately black because their culture drives interest and participation, which increases excellence. This culturally disproportionate interest is normal and acceptable.
NHL players are disproportionately white because their culture drives interest and participation, which increases excellence. This culturally disproportionate interest is racist which must be addressed by granting resources to clack controlled institutions.
>>seeing the numbers is a first step toward fixing the problem
what problem?
Always remember. Fixing is also what the vet did to your dog.
The problem is, they are paying someone money to say there's too many white people in hockey.
It was only a matter of time before they fucking ruined hockey too.
It's pretty telling how blatant these people are about implementing a commissar system. Evidence:
NHL EVP of social impact, growth and legislative affairs
That's really all this is--a means to provide jobs and political power to social malbushim who demand to be paid to be parasites.
I see these same complaints about recreation–“The National Parks aren’t inclusive spaces for Black Bodies!” Funny, because middle and upper class blacks seem to have no issues fitting in at these places. Bending over backwards to find The First Black Hiker in Rocky Mountain National Park isn’t going to get the average Park Hill family from Denver to drive 2 hours just to hike through the woods.
Very interesting. Ive never seen it described as a 'problem' when other races are massively over-represented in a sport...
I see a problem here. Them saying there's a problem. And that too many white people is the problem. WTF is wrong with people anymore?!
“The top marginal tax rate next year will apply to people making more than $578,125 individually or $693,750 as a married couple.”
Hardly seems fair, since married student loan relief seekers can get twice as much free money as single ones. Shouldn’t married taxpayer’s top marginal income be twice the single amount? And why shouldn’t doubling the married limit for tax rates be double the single rate all the way down?
I’m writing my Congresspersons.
I wouldn't. They're likely to change the individual margin to 347K.
Democrat solution to inflation: have more abortions.
"Having children is why you’re worried about your price of gas. It’s why you’re concerned about how much your food costs."
https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2022/10/19/pro-abortion-stacey-abrams-tells-georgia-voters-having-children-is-why-youre-worried-about-inflation-n645517
Abrams 2024
She means well.
I have heard this line in multiple ways.
Lefties were using the "look how hard life is for a foster kid, this is what happens when birth is forced"
I believe it was that loud mouth Ana Navaro and others on TV with the "look at these poor people that have a physical disability or mental disability, what a crappy quality of life, this is why dobbs being overturned is so terrible"
And plenty of stuff like Abrams above, in the realm of "life is harder with more kids, abortion is the solution"
Like...what, the, fuck?!
This isnt even 2 degrees separated from "killing people is a quick fix to life being hard". Though god knows this argument is perfectly in line with the environazi's. They are clamoring for when we can make human sacrifice for mother Gaia.
At the end of the day, they want to kill inconvenient people. There are solutions for all those "problems," but the solutions require hard work and personal sacrifice.
Too poor to raise a kid? Give it up for adoption. But that requires you to be selfless for 9 months, and that's a bridge too far.
The expect everyone ELSE to sacrifice for the common good, but when it's their turn to do it, they'd rather just kill the inconvenient person and save themselves the trouble.
Rekabi subsequently posted an apology on her Instagram page, saying that the absence of a hijab was unintentional. "Due to bad timing, and the unanticipated call for me to climb the wall, my head covering inadvertently came off," her post said.
No it didn't.
Hey feminists, cast your eyes away from the soul-crushing patriarchy of a Washington DC wine bar and look at the rest of the world. You might be surprised at what you find.
"The current protests in Iran sound the death knell of the Islamic Republic," suggests Masih Alinejad in Foreign Affairs this week.
So did that hip, youth movement in Egypt a few years ago.
The government has endured major protests before, notably in 2009, 2017, and 2019, but these demonstrations are different.
How did I know she was going to say that.
Alinejad points out how the internet and social media have invigorated a younger generation of protesters:
Undoubtedly spreading misinformation... what's Big Tech doing to stop the spread?
Fyi, could any of this activity by the young protesters be considered an insurrection?
Only if they’re let into the Capitol by Ray Epps. If they’re BLM or antifa, then it’s obviously not an insurrection.
• Why did the FBI raid this ABC News producer's home?
FBI 100% legitimate/FBI used as political weapons oscillation wave is tough to keep up with.
I thought we weren't allowed to call it a "raid" anymore. Also, I've been assured by very credible sources that a federal judge would never, ever even consider just signing off on a warrant; the process is the most rigorous of all processes and not ever taken lightly or routinely.
Thank you for sharing. Let's hope for the best for our female athletes.