Federal Judge Blocks Arizona Law Making It Illegal To Film Cops Within 8 Feet
"The Court fails to see how the presence of a person recording a video near an officer interferes with the officer's activities," the judge wrote.
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A federal judge has temporarily blocked enforcement of a new Arizona law that makes it a misdemeanor crime to film police within eight feet.
Ruling in a First Amendment lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona and several media organizations, U.S. District Judge for the District of Arizona John J. Tuchi held last Friday that the state's new law is unnecessary because of other laws on the books—"simultaneously over-inclusive and under-inclusive"—and not likely to survive strict scrutiny.
"If the goal of HB2319 is to prevent interference with law enforcement activities, the Court fails to see how the presence of a person recording a video near an officer interferes with the officer's activities," Tuchi wrote in his order issuing a temporary injunction against the law.
The law, passed earlier this year, makes it a misdemeanor offense to continue filming police activity from within eight feet of an officer after receiving a verbal warning. There are exceptions for filming the police in a private residence, during a traffic stop, and if the person filming is the subject of the police encounter. But the law qualifies those exceptions, saying they apply only if the person recording is "not interfering with lawful police actions" or "unless a law enforcement officer determines that the person is interfering in the law enforcement activity or that it is not safe to be in the area and orders the person to leave the area."
The bill's sponsor, state Rep. John Kavanagh (R–Fountain Hills), wrote in a March USA Today op-ed that he introduced it "because there are groups hostile to the police that follow them around to videotape police incidents, and they get dangerously close to potentially violent encounters."
However, multiple federal appeals courts have upheld the right to film police as a core First Amendment activity. Civil liberties groups and media organizations fiercely opposed the bill, saying it would have a chilling effect on the public and reporters, especially when trying to record police activity in crowds, during protests, or on narrow sidewalks.
The Phoenix New Times reported that attorneys for the Arizona House and Senate warned lawmakers that there were potential constitutional issues with the law. However, the legislature passed it anyway.
The federal lawsuit challenging the law, filed last month, argues that it "creates an unprecedented and facially unconstitutional content-based restriction on speech about an important governmental function."
"Today's ruling is an incredible win for our First Amendment rights and will allow Arizonans to continue to hold police accountable," K.M. Bell, a staff attorney for the ACLU of Arizona, said in a press release. "At a time when recording law enforcement interactions is one of the best tools to hold police accountable, we should be working to protect this vital right—not undermine it."
The relatively quick turnaround between the filing of the lawsuit and the judge's preliminary injunction is partly due to the Arizona attorney general's office and the Maricopa County sheriff's and prosecutor's offices declining to defend the law in court.
"I was assuming that the attorney general would do his job as the state's attorney and defend a law passed by the state," Kavanagh told NBC News. "We are trying to get together with the [House] speaker and the [Senate] president and see if the Legislature will defend it, but there's also the possibility of some outside group possibly stepping up."
Enforcement of the law, which was set to go into effect on Sept. 24, is now on hold while the lawsuit continues. The ACLU and other plaintiffs are seeking a permanent injunction against it.
The Arizona state legislature will now have to decide if it wants to defend the law it passed.
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I really don't know about this one. The constitutionality seems like it could fit time/place/manner restrictions, but I don't know. I can even see why the law is a bad law. I do think the quote from the judge of "The Court fails to see how the presence of a person recording a video near an officer interferes with the officer's activities," is obtuse on the judge's part though. It's quite easy to see why having a person filming you on a phone with 8 feet could interfere with the officer's activity.
Yeah, I'm similarly split on this issue. It's not unreasonable to give police officers space to do their jobs. In fact, a police officer can use his/her discretion and arrest/ticket you for interfering. Instead of leaving this to individual discretion, which is subjective, AZ defined it clearly.
Now, I can definitely see where this could be abused by police officers. But that already occurs without this law. And when those abuses happen, the courts almost unanimously supports the citizen.
Yeah, so I don't know. I'd really have to see evidence for this one. What was the circumstance that led to this issue being pushed by Arizona at all? If there are incidents they can cite that they wish to provide relief for, I become more sympathetic. If it's entirely to prevent some feared issue then I'm much less sympathetic to the law.
Though, either way, I'm really iffy on it being a first amendment issue. The main problem being the slippery slope concerns, which are real. I don't deny them the way a lot of people do.
And when those abuses happen, the courts almost unanimously supports the citizen.
Cite?
Seriously. I didn't know that was the case so I'd like to see your sources.
Source? His ass.
Because today it's 8 feet, tomorrow it's 10 feet, and on and on...
As the decision makes clear, this failed the time/place/manner test because it was "simultaneously over-inclusive and under-inclusive". That is, it's broad wording criminalized certain actions or situations that could not pass the time/place/manner test while other clauses decriminalized certain actions or situations that would have passed the test. The law was so poorly written that no reasonable person could know when they were in violation and when not.
Re: "the presence of a person recording a video near an officer interferes", you're going to have to explain precisely how a bystander within seven feet with empty hands but yelling at the cop is non-interference while someone standing quietly with a phone in their hand is. (And, yes, there are lots of situations where bystanders are closer than 8 feet.) This law didn't criminalize actual interference - it defined the mere act of recording as interference.
This ^
Cops definitely deserve space to do their jobs, but merely recording from within 8 feet away should not be considered interference. The legislature would be better off focusing on "enhancing" or passing actual laws that deal with someone actually interfering with an arrest/investigation (but there should already be laws on books in this regard) not going after people recording police interactions.
Indeed. Not to mention obstructing police is already illegal, so in most instances where time and place restrictions would be reasonable, the restriction is redundant.
The whole thing is outdated.
should be in meters, not feet.
Southern Arizona has the 19, which is the only highway in the US with signage in metric. Fun stuff.
I'm sure the judge allows random people to choose to walk up within 8 feet of him all the time to record while carrying out his duties, right? What % of his proceedings have any sort of live recording allowed, is it 100%?
This is nothing more than another law designed for the specific purpose of enabling cops to get away with illegal activity. There isn't a day that goes by without a new story from someplace in the US about cops acting illegally, using excessive force, planting false evidence, or simply killing a citizen, as happened in my city where the police murdered a 75 year old grandmother with dementia and got away with it. She was hispanic, not black, so it didn't get any news coverage, but it happened.
Someone standing within 8 feet of a cop who is struggling with a suspect may be interference - but that's not what this law bans. It bans standing there with a camera when standing there without a camera is allowed. The ONLY way holding a camera makes it "interference" is when the cop fears he is doing something wrong - and exposing a government doing something wrong is one of the most important things protected by the first amendment.
There's just one thing wrong with this decision - the legislators who wrote and voted for this bill weren't hauled in front of the judge to explain their "thinking", then sentenced to classes in logic, the constitution, and the history of the American Revolution. With an injunction not to violate the constitution again.
When I first saw mention of this law, I said it seemed fine to me, because 8 feet seems like a reasonable distance for interference claims.
Now this report seems to imply that the 8 foot limit only applies to video recorders, as if anyone without a camera could be closer without interfering with the cop. If that really is what the law says, I agree it is a violation of the First Amendment; the mere holding of a camera cannot possibly increase the interference.
But as usual, Reason doesn't clarify anything.
That is precisely the case - the 8 foot limit only applied to recording. As the last article to discuss this law pointed out, "standing still while wearing a GoPro" became illegal under this statute.
I think that makes sense then and makes the law very weird.
Leftist Reason is praising Democrats for blocking a Republican law. Typical.
Ideas!
This isn't about politis, its about the right to record police. We have that right. Not hard to understand.
A Republican proposed the bill. If you oppose it then you support the left. Why are you a leftist?
That's the most simplistic, vacuous logic I've seen here in quite a while. It's clear that you don't understand what Libertarians stand for, and you really don't belong here. You need to go back to Fox News where you can live in an echo chamber that doesn't question right and wrong.
Seriously though, I don't see how such a law would not be abused, though the Republican defenders in the gallery said there was something in the law that would stop the police from abusing it. I wish that magic could be applied to the other laws they abuse.
Just pass a law imposing a 26 foot buffer for everyone viewing a police incident, but if that is overturned, 25, but if overturned ..24, ..but if, then 23, and continue to 0 so we can have the issue decided and settled with one case, not 20. And put in some weasel language, '...unless a greater distance is warranted due to exigent circumstances or to protect the public from harm.
If the law has an exception for the person the cop is interacting with, that should mean anyone arrested for recording the cops now has the right to continue recording because they're under arrest.
It's happened and that's one reason the cops hate recording. They can't stand anyone seeing what they really do.
It isn't an opinion but a fact that people close to police officers sometimes do interfere with an officer making an arrest. The police are supposed to just hope that the people filming won't subsequently interfere or incite violence against the police? The very people who push dangerously false narratives such as "hands up, don't shoot" are no doubt happy with the ruling. Then again, they're the same people who turn thugs into martyrs.
. The police are supposed to just hope that the people filming won't subsequently interfere or incite violence against the police?
Yes. The people have a constitutional right. If that right is abused then the police are entitled to take action. Would you accept the argument that people shouldn't be allowed to KBA because some of the people might abuse that right? Rights often have a price - the question is one of balancing rights and costs; I generally favour biasing towards the citizen, not the government, of which the police are representatives, particularly where we've seen over the last few years how filming the police has served to protect the liberties of citizens or punishing the poliuce for infringing those liberties. At the same time, I don't see too many cases of police being thwarted in the lawful exercise of their powers by people filming them.
And in all those ride-along cop shows, the cops don't seem to mind cameras getting very close, so clearly proximity by itself isn't a real issue.
Stand within 8 feet of this judge while filming and see what he has to say. At 8 feet you don't even need your zoom lends.
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According to JesseAz the law can't be abused because the cop can't stop someone they're interacting with from recording them, which means I'm a stupid person who is really stupid because he likes to say I'm stupid. Makes him feel better about himself. Poor, little man.
Thing is, as soon as a cop tells someone to stop recording they're interacting with the person, which means the person can continue recording. Except the person can't record because they're too close to something else that's going on. But now they are what is going on. So they can record, but someone 6 feet away can't. So the cop approaches that person because they're breaking the law, and now they can record because they're the person the cop is interacting with.
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Did you read the law? It made exceptions for people directly interacting with the officer.
Weird you'd cite me correctly pointing out how you were wrong.
While the law makes exceptions for those who are subjects of police contact, in an enclosed structure on private property or in a vehicle,
https://www.ocolly.com/news/new-arizona-law-bans-filming-within-8-feet-of-a-police-officer/article_ef658da8-03a5-11ed-9809-b3cb236a63fe.htm
It is like you enjoy being a fucking retard.
The law has several exceptions, however: The bill says that someone who is the subject of police interaction can record the encounter “if the person is not interfering with lawful police actions,” which include “searching, handcuffing or administering a police sobriety test.” The bill adds that people inside a car stopped by police can record the encounter if “the occupants are not interfering with lawful police actions.”
Read more at: https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article263292388.html#storylink=cpy
I mean it is like you revel in ignorance like it is a case if beer.
Weird attempt at an attack. Try not being ignorant buddy.
So the judge said he couldn’t see how someone hostile to police, getting in their personal space while they’re fighting for their lives with a murderer, could be an interference.
It’s mind boggling. Was the judge given his position as the result of an affirmative action policy?