Virginia Can't Force Bookstores To Card Kids for Books on Gender and Sexuality
An effort to ban sales of two books to minors ended with a Virginia judge saying that the state’s obscenity statute is “unconstitutional on its face."

On Tuesday, a Virginia Beach court dealt a serious blow to would-be book-banners who were trying to restrict private bookstores from selling two books to minors.
Their lawsuit targeted Gender Queer by Maia Kobabe and A Court of Mist and Fury by Sarah J. Maas. Gender Queer has been at the center of many book-banning battles for its graphic sexual scenes, particularly its visual illustrations of oral sex. The petitioners argued that A Court of Mist and Fury is "sexually offensive in nature" for its illustrations of sexual acts and descriptions of "abusive and intrusive sexual contact." Circuit Judge Pamela S. Baskervill, who came out of retirement to try the case since all other judges recused themselves, dismissed the suit on free speech and due process grounds.
In May, former congressional candidate Tommy Altman and state Del. Tim Anderson (R–Virginia Beach), his legal counsel, filed two petitions under Virginia's obscenity law to have the books deemed obscene for minors. They attempted to require booksellers to obtain parental consent before selling those books to minors.
Virginia residents may file an obscenity petition when they believe someone "is engaged in the sale or commercial distribution of any obscene book." An obscenity petition may result in the court issuing "a temporary restraining order against the sale or distribution" of the book in question, which then assumes knowledge of the restriction among those who distribute the title even before a full trial has taken place.
In Virginia, obscenity involves "a shameful or morbid interest in nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, excretory functions or products thereof or sadomasochistic abuse" as its "dominant theme or purpose."
"Taken as a whole," a book must also lack "serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value" to be considered obscene.
Altman and Anderson specifically sought to keep minors from purchasing Gender Queer and A Court of Mist and Fury from Barnes & Noble and independent sellers. Barnes & Noble filed a brief supporting motion to dismiss the petitions, noting that they fell "woefully short of the constitutional standards governing obscenity."
For one, even though the petitions allege the books have "no serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value to minors," this is a conflation of "two statutes that employ different legal standards." Though Virginians may file petitions under the obscenity clause, nothing in that clause specifically names or applies to minors. Thus, Barnes & Noble argued that the books could not be considered "obscene only…to juveniles."
Nor did the petitioners make an effective case that the books meet the general standards for obscenity. Barnes & Noble's brief points out that the petitions single out only small portions of the books as inappropriate for minors, defying the established standard to consider material "as a whole" in order to deem it obscene.
The petitions "ignore the language of the Virginia statutes under which they were filed and assume that developments in First Amendment law over the past sixty-five years never occurred," notes Barnes & Noble's brief.
Baskervill didn't actually determine whether the books were obscene for minors, but she did find that the petitioners didn't "allege facts sufficient to support" a general obscenity finding. Moreover, Baskervill found that the Virginia Code's obscenity statute "is unconstitutional on its face." It "authorizes a prior restraint that violates the First Amendment and the Constitution of Virginia," she wrote, and "violates due process by authorizing judgment without notice to affected parties."
In some ways, this case was an unprecedented extension of the modern culture war's book front. Since 1973, the Supreme Court "has accepted no cases involving literary obscenity, nor has it found any book to be obscene," notes Barnes & Noble's brief. The Virginia Beach petitions also represent an unusual strategy by attempting to harness a little-used section of state law to block the distribution of certain books to minors. They were attempts "to manufacture jurisdiction" by "mashing together" unrelated statutes, according to the Barnes & Noble brief.
But this case was especially notable—and concerning—since the petitioners attempted to target private book distributors under a criminal statute. Rather than just affecting public schools, where many book battles take place, these petitions aimed to limit activities in the private sphere. Regardless of what one thinks about the literary value of these two books or the age level for which they're appropriate, these circumstances alone are deeply troubling.
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Sounds like a good cite for the defense in the next case of providing porn to a minor.
Then again, shouldn't the same thinking apply to the 2nd Amendment?
Also, how does this affect the recent legislation prohibiting firearms advertising aimed at people under 18?
Or tobaccy advertising to anyone?
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The problem with using reductio ad absurdum cases (like providing porn to minors) is that it creates an incentive for censors to claim that anything they want to censor is one of those obvious reductio ad absurdum cases.
Are you opposed to censorship, except for falsely yelling fire in a crowded theater? Censors will claim an anti-war protest is basically the same thing.
Are you opposed to censorship, except for providing porn to minors? Censors will claim any media they dislike that addresses the topic of sex in any way is porn.
Are you opposed to censorship, but understand that "fighting words" and "inciting violence" should be exceptions? Censors will claim any phrase that anyone could possibly interpret as even mildly insulting is "fighting words."
I am fairly anti-woke, but I do actually agree with you and think that this is an argument against obscenity laws.
This is generally true but it isn't just a book, it is more like a comic book. The question I guess is whether you can leave it up to the imagination. It is a bit much to compare it to run-of-the-mill books and simply "addresses the topic of sex." To quote the article:
"Gender Queer has been at the center of many book-banning battles for its graphic sexual scenes, particularly its visual illustrations of oral sex. The petitioners argued that A Court of Mist and Fury is "sexually offensive in nature" for its illustrations of sexual acts and descriptions of "abusive and intrusive sexual contact.""
Are you saying minors should have access to everything they want because otherwise censors try to keep it from adults?
Are you conflating age appropriate restrictions on material children can access with censorship of adults?
Do you see no difference between adults and children?
I could've sworn they used to try to bar those under 18 from buying a Playboy or a Penthouse once upon a time.
It's still true, though I think that's really untenable in the modern internet age anyway. Keeping porn from people who want it, any porn they want, is a real fight.
Whoa. Hold on there fellas. How old are you? I'm six and he's 8. Ok then. But it's a three drink minimum. Drag queen show starts in 20 minutes.
Just don't try to buy whipped cream.
Good, this means I no longer have to enter my birthdate on websites that feature violent games, right?
That is the most annoying.
Get a tattoo = 18
Go to war = 18
Get married = 18
Vote = 18
Drink a beer = 21
Rent a car = 25
Read sex books with your groomer teacher = ANY AGE!
Our laws make so much sense.
Meh, I used to read National Geographic as a kid, for the articles.
Imperialist sexist racist...oh, and heteronormative.
Restricting access to certain information is a terrible way to try to combat troubling social trends. You need to convince people that it's a bad idea, not tell them it's off limits to even know about a thing. That will never work in the "information age".
"Before clicking on this erotic bondage site, please certify that you have read counter-arguments against the arguments presented on our site."
Yeah, because that shit totally prevents kids from getting porn or whatever they want to see.
William Brennan, notorious right-wing fundamentalist, explained on behalf of the Supreme Court that the state can ban material which is harmful as to minors.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/390/629/
Apparently, the particular law they tried to use in VA isn't about minors but about what's appropriate for adults. Also there are due process problems.
So there's room for a better law which avoids these problems.
Kids know better than to go to bookstores.
So what judge has to come out of retirement to strike down CA’s similar bullshit:
“The new California law, AB 2571, bans any advertising that promotes guns in a way that “appears to be attractive to minors.” Violators can be fined up to $25,000.”
https://amp.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article264238921.html
Boaf sidez, bitches!
Weird that Reason seems to not have a problem with it.
What if there's a bare titty?
No more age requirements for purchasing porn magazines then? I mean, if we're stretching "serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value" to include these two books, then what meaning does it even have?
To clarify, I think the US is far too puritanical when it comes to sex/nudity/etc. I am only taking issue with the weird double standard that allows for age restrictions only if it doesn't pass some arbitrary (and lopsidedly enforced) standard for "value".
state’s obscenity statute is “unconstitutional on its face."
Nah Nah Nah Na Nah - Sucks to be one of the original non-American Taliban.
It is utterly bizarre that so many people cannot comprehend the idea that different people have different beliefs about what media is appropriate for minors at what age. To some people it is so obvious that some piece of media is not appropriate for minors that they can't imagine anyone disagreeing. They imagine that person must have some nefarious purpose in mind.
No mainstream political group has any desire to legalize fucking kids. The idea that some do is a Big Lie that will not be true no matter how many times it is repeated.
Minors can get all the porn they want right now.
"different people have different beliefs about what media is appropriate for minors at what age."
And nothing is stopping the parents from buying and giving their children these books. I'm not sure about some of the other comments about it being a crime to give "porn" to children but that is a separate discussion about what are parental rights.
Except, of course for the push to add MAP to the LGBT spectrum.