Make the CDC an Infectious Disease Epidemic Fighter Again
Dr. Walensky's proposed bureaucratic reshuffling is too timid.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) did neither control nor prevention when confronted with the COVID-19 coronavirus outbreak over the past two-and-a-half years. The agency's many shortcomings began with its spectacularly botched rollout of tests for monitoring the spread of the coronavirus in early 2020. This was followed by the agency's failure for many months to recognize that the disease was chiefly spread via respiratory droplets. And let's not forget the agency's comprehensive ineptitude concerning the swift evaluation of the effectiveness of its proposed mitigation strategies such as masking, social distancing, and quarantining. In addition, the agency was dilatory in releasing relevant data concerning boosters, hospitalization trends, and wastewater detection of the virus.
"For 75 years, C.D.C. and public health have been preparing for Covid-19, and in our big moment, our performance did not reliably meet expectations," admits CDC director Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky in a statement this week announcing the reorganization of the agency. According to Bloomberg, she also acknowledged, "To be frank, we are responsible for some pretty dramatic, pretty public mistakes — from testing to data, to comms." Those are understatements.
According to The Washington Post, Walensky plans to speed up the agency's response to future disease outbreaks by using preprint scientific reports to get out actionable data as opposed to waiting for peer review; revamp its communications office and websites to make agency guidance clearer and more accessible; and require agency bureaucrats responding to outbreak emergencies to remain in their positions for at least six months. That's not nearly enough.
When the CDC was founded on July 1, 1946, as the Communicable Disease Center, its chief mission was to control and eliminate the scourge of malaria from the United States. By 1951, the efforts overseen by the agency succeeded in eradicating the mosquito-borne illness from the 13 southeastern states in which it was endemic. The agency was further tasked in 1948 with investigating typhus, polio, rabies, hookworm, tuberculosis, and viral encephalitis. The CDC played a major role in the global eradication of smallpox and the elimination of endemic polio, measles, and rubella in the United States.
Over the decades, the agency lost its focus on monitoring and fighting epidemic infectious diseases as it accumulated new branches and offices that aimed to combat "epidemics" of obesity, smoking, and violence. All of these issues have public health implications but not nearly the same urgency that actual epidemics caused by novel infectious diseases do. The manifold failures of the agency during the COVID-19 pandemic show that the CDC needs radical reform—not just Walensky's goals of improved communications and less bureaucratic turnover—that returns the agency to its infectious-disease fighting roots.
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Make the CDC an Infectious Disease Epidemic Fighter Again
Why not just get rid of the CDC? It's proven itself worse than useless in the last test run.
If they just had more tests covid would never have spread. Bailey believes this. And since he does he should be nowhere close to writing an article on future policy.
Tests could have slowed the spread by letting people self isolate. But not stopped the spread.
Not everyone would do that.
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Not really. Many people aren't obsessive testers.
Can you imagine how neurotic the next generation will be?
They already are. My kids are over it and laugh at the obsessive kids. It is ridiculous at this point. Almost as bad as the peanut allergy issue also caused by an over reaction.
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By the time anyone was paying attention, this was already in the wild, infecting deer, cats, homeless, kids and everyone else.
Testing would have done nothing to prevent this.
Yep. The very very first antibody tests showed that we were missing 11 or so infections for every one we caught. At that point it was clear the virus would run through the population.
That was in April 2020.
Sticking a stick up my nose constantly would be worse than actually getting Covid
Testing and isolation can be effective at the beginning of an epidemic/pandemic. But by the time tests were readily available, there were already millions of cases throughout the USA. And by the time the testing started in significant numbers, the main effect was to break supply chains by requiring people to quarantine for 10-14 days based on a test result that was overly sensitive, while the people they were quarantining from were still being exposed to COVID-19 everywhere else, since the mask mandates were totally ineffective.
When the breakout first started on the west coast, tests weren't even available unless you were in intensive care and had recently traveled to China.
Yep. And bloodwork taken from mid-December 2019 showed that 2% of people in WA/OR ALREADY had antibodies. That was four months before we did anything to slow the spread -- and the 'worst' four months because the virus is seasonal. So we went to church and basketball games and gathered for the holidays -- and we didn't even notice the virus.
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The CDC should be reformed back into its original iteration - with a tweak. The original U S Public Health Service was set up in 1798 to deal with diseases brought in to the US by merchant seamen - and Marine Hospitals were set up in most ports. It was/is a uniformed branch - meaning it can easily be incorporated To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia - which by default makes it state level implementation though I suppose a declaration of public health emergency could federalize that. CDC was originally a WW2 department of the PHS - namely controlling malaria in war areas of the Pacific.
At any rate - the tweak should be that it should be reorganized as an interstate compact - not as a federal agency. imo - and I am clearly not a big-L Libertarian (or Rothbard/Rockwell anarchist) on this issue - there is a federal role for public health - but state implementation is primary. What that does is eliminate both the mandate ability and eliminate the electoral politics of making it all a federal/national issue. Interstate compacts are both boring as hell and don't involve the President AT ALL
What that does is eliminate both the mandate ability and eliminate the electoral politics of making it all a federal/national issue. Interstate compacts are both boring as hell and don't involve the President AT ALL
Well then, what's the point? If I'm going to let something big happen, then I better end up with my name on an airport somewhere.
I'm also informed by many reliable journalists that limiting the powers of a federal agency is adjacent to Fascism. Why do you want Fascism?
Fascism is better than gonorrhea
Just fire everyone and close it down. It’s what they deserve.
One line bill. Easy.
The CDC will be terminate on 1/1/2023.
To make it a little better add another line to remove all funding from the WHO and declare it a foreign interest and everyone who works for them an enemy agent.
And you could easily repurpose that bill with a fill-in-the-blank for agency name:
FBI
DHS
CIA
EPA
Dept. Of Education
And so on.
My proposal for the FBI, CIA, ATF, Homeland Security-
Each agency is given a set of codes that they have to distribute to their employees.
The first agency to correctly come up with the codes of all the other agencies is kept, but trimmed down; everyone else is fired.
I'd like to propose an amendment:
The IRS will terminate on 4/16/2023.
Any property belonging to the IRS will be auctioned to the highest bidder, with the proceeds to be used for retraining IRS personnel for productive work in the private sector and the remainder to be refunded to the taxpayers in proportion to taxes paid.
Yeah. Let's fund govt via debt only. The next generation can't vote anyway so let's stick them with the entire bill for everything
For 75 years, C.D.C. and public health have been preparing for Covid-19, and in our big moment, our performance did not reliably meet expectations," admits CDC director Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky in a statement this week…
And then she resigned, right? Right?
She first fired all her advisors, and then resigned. Right?
She apologized for dishonoring the government, took out her sword and committed seppuku. Right?
No 'knives' over three inches allowed, so no.
Long enough. Just might need a couple passes. A tanto can be as short as 5".
Yeah, I guess, but only if you have someone like Tom Cruise playing the lone ranger.
She could just hang herself and shoot herself in the chest with a shotgun. That's a popular DC suicide method.
” I worry about the ability to affect culture change, when the agency is still largely remote,” said Besser, who served as acting CDC director during the Obama administration. “I would want to be standing in front of the agency and laying out a vision and inspiring people towards that change. And then I would want to be walking the halls … but my understanding is that the buildings are still pretty much empty.”
Great. Not so many left to fire.
Didn't the CDC have a lot to do with getting people started working from home?
Get rid of it and a lot of other agencies also. It's a long list.
Ask Rick Perry.
Ha!
Im sure the only thing most of them learned was that the pesky public was a major pain in the ass to their authoritarian agenda.
....returns the agency to its infectious-disease fighting roots.
While we're at it, how's about returning government to its liberty-protecting roots.
Careful, they may redefine "liberty".
liberty is slavery, slavery is liberty?
Slavery is the liberty we all do together.
Get the shot else Liberty will take your job.
Organized theft is a heck of a way to protect liberty.
the disease was chiefly spread via respiratory droplets.
An aerosol, which is much small particles than ‘droplets’, and that’s why masks are so ineffective.
Reason needs a science writer.
He has to defend his panicked articles during covid somehow. Just ignore there is zero correlation between mask policies and transmission.
N95 masks, properly fitted, do trap many aerosols. Cloth masks are for show only, as they merely direct your breath to the side.
Who gets masks properly fitted?
Nobody.
That's why your mask protects YOU, not the horseshit that Masks 4 All turned into a slogan.
Anyone who is at risk is really fucking stupid if they expect me to protect them by properly wearing a mask. Even if I didn't have the beard they shouldn't trust a random stranger to know what medical professionals need special training to do.
That's why your mask protects YOU…
Doesn’t even do that.
Yeah? I don't care. That's you problem.
See? It's super simple. As long as we don't expect OTHER people to have to do something, we can make our own decisions, and we can all get along.
There weren't enough n 95 to wear properly among the population. Also the virus effected primarily the elderly. Not sure why you're defending this.
Not a defense. Simple statement of fact.
There's a huge difference between the protection a properly fitted mask gives to the wearer and the protection a mask mandate gives to society. An n95, properly worn, can give some protection to the wearer.
Everything else, especially mask mandates, is useless. Mandates don't work, and have never been proven to work in any RCT, ever in the history of everything.
There never would have been enough N95s as none of these folks would’ve been properly fit tested in the first place and the aerosol size is too small.
I’m an asbestos professional in a couple of states. Now, when I first saw people wearing cloth and surgical masks for Covid, I rolled my eyes. We are required as per OSHA to wear half face respirators with P100 cartridges while performing even an inspection. Why? Because the particle size is small enough to elude even an N95 mask. As a particle, asbestos fibers are bigger than an aerosolized Covid virus. Surgical and cloth masks never stood any chance of stopping this.
In addition, we were asking people who were never medically cleared nor fit tested to wear face coverings that had never been test nor rated by an agency such as NIOSH (which does rate and test N95s and the respirators described above). This was going to spread regardless of what anyone did or said.
Some aerosols. But not overly much of this virus, that is an order of magnitude smaller than the N95 holes.
Still, the point is that when COVID-19 patients are symptomatic, they are expelling droplets that may be containing the virus through coughing. But presymptomatic and asymptomatic carriers and patients are, by definition, pretty much not coughing. That is where you get aerosol spread. The problem for the masking justification, is that many, if not most, people coughing a lot during this pandemic self quarantined. They stayed home from work, school, etc. That was the time that they should have been masking, in order to maybe protect the other members of their households, but often didn’t. On the other hand, when they felt fine, weren’t hacking out viron covered liquids with their coughing, went out, to work, to school, to shop, or even riot or protest, they were primarily expelling the virus through aerosols, through their masks (even the rare N95 masks) and transmitting them to members of other family groups.
That brings up another issue - how many N95 masks have anyone actually seen in public, esp when the the spread of the virus was at its highest? Instead we saw a lot of hand made masks, neck gaiters, etc, with holes several orders of magnitude greater than the size of the virons. Even the ubiquitous surgical masks we saw the most were well below N95s in protection even the ones passed out in hospitals and doctors offices.
Finally, citing to the NYT (behind a paywall) for this proposition is extraordinarily weak, as they are well known to be one of this Administration’s primary mouthpieces. Regardless of what evidence they cite, there is always the question remaining of the extent that they curated the evidence cited to arrive at their goal - in this case, to justify at least some masking.
OK, now the mask has 'trapped' the aerosol: what happens next?
You breathe out.
"Reason needs a science writer."
You think his COVID stuff is bad (and it is) you should see his climate stuff. He is so out of his depth its scary.
I hear Alex Jones needs a job.
"Reason needs a science writer."
Maybe they can get
Bill NyeOk, how about
Neil DeGrasse TysonFine, let's just dig up Isaac Newton and reanimate him.
Maybe they could get Brett Weinstein. He's not a libertarian, but that's certainly not a barrier to employment by Reason (the opposite, if anything), and he actually _is_ a scientist.
"To be frank, we are responsible for some pretty dramatic, pretty public mistakes — from testing to data, to comms." Those are understatements.
Um, careful for applauding her for the 'comms' mistakes. That's often an institutional way of saying, "We didn't do anything wrong, it's that our messaging was the problem."
According to The Washington Post, Walensky plans to speed up the agency's response to future disease outbreaks by using preprint scientific reports to get out actionable data as opposed to waiting for peer review; revamp its communications office and websites to make agency guidance clearer and more accessible; and require agency bureaucrats responding to outbreak emergencies to remain in their positions for at least six months. That's not nearly enough.
I don't know what this means. I could interpret this a number of ways, but right off the top of my head, it suggests to me that this is exactly what the agency did do, to disastrous results.
And starting with the last statement, one excellent criticism of Fauci is that he had simply been around too long. He's been in that position of authority since 1897, and the thinking within that institution was stale and sclerotic.
But as for the rest of this... if I were to be as charitable to Fauci as I can possibly be the central problem with Fauci being utterly unresponsive to not only criticism, but absolutely stuck with a one-sized-fits-all solution that he abjectly refused to modify was precisely because he went with a 'pre-printed' pandemic response plan. He had a pandemic playbook, and he refused to deviate from it. It literally didn't matter what was happening on the field, he kept running the single play he developed, and no matter how bad things got, he blamed it on lack of faith in the plays.
Vaccinate everyone, everywhere, all the time, lock down everyone, everywhere, all the time, mask everyone, everywhere, all the time, don't stratify risk profile by age or infirmity, the disease is equally dangerous to everyone it touches, everywhere, all the time.
Even a month ago he was effectively "If we go back into the game, we're going to have to go back to the same play we were running!" like an absolute fucking moron. Look, you fucking retard, if we have to go back to playing the game it's because your retarded fucking playbook didn't fucking work... AGAIN!
He belongs in jail.
My charitably for that fucking imp would be a bullet behind the ear instead of being gnawed on by hungry beagles.
It literally didn't matter what was happening on the field, he kept running the single play he developed, and no matter how bad things got, he blamed it on lack of faith in the plays.
The Adam Gase of public health.
It's even worse -- he THREW AWAY the pandemic playbook, the one that said that lockdowns and masks wouldn't do anything at all. He called an audible away from the actual science and forced us to run his new play.
Honestly, if you want to overhaul an agency that badly run, the first thing you need to do is fire Wollensky.
That chick actually should have been fired when she was on TV crying her eyes out as infection and hospitalization rates were plummeting. She was neither right about the course of the pandemic nor did she project the strength necessary to instill faith in a leader. She had no business running that agency then, and the last year has been such a clusterfuck she has proven herself incompetent.
The fish rots from the head down. Fire her, then let someone else clean house.
(my personal preference is just burning it all to the ground, actually)
She should have resigned after saying that you can neither catch, nor spread the disease when you're vaccinated.
That chick actually should have been fired when she was on TV crying her eyes out as infection and hospitalization rates were plummeting. She was neither right about the course of the pandemic nor did she project the strength necessary to instill faith in a leader.
^
DOOOOM!
add to that, during press conference she basically had one canned answer of "everyone should just go get the booster" without any critical thinking.
Every concern brought up..."Just go get the booster".
Its been one of the most inept, anti-science regimes we have ever seen and she was the one at the top pushing it. Not as bad as Fauci (who should honestly have been tarred and feathered) but she was one of the people who contributed to the authoritarian, clergy approach to the pandemic
These are supposed to be the medical experts, but they never did explain why they thought a booster of any sort might be helpful. Just trust them, and do it!
It’s looking more and more like the 2nd and subsequent jabs are where the danger arises. The purpose of vaccines is supposed to be to imprint the knowledge of the virus as a pathogen on the immune system, without endangering the patient. The side effects mostly involve the immune system reacting to the two (archaic) spike proteins in the vaccine. That means that the immune system imprinted the knowledge of these spike proteins as pathogens on the first jab just fine. So what is the purpose of the 2nd and subsequent jabs, if not to imprint the immune system on this (former, since Omicron) part of the virus, except to increase profits for Pfizer and Moderna? We really need a plausible/medical explanation of what they are trying to accomplish.
Remember when Moderna switched to making 'vaccines' because repeated jabs of MRNA technology was killing animals?
I do.
Yep the impending doom comment should have gotten her fired immediately.
My modest proposal for fixing the CDC.
1. Fire everyone at the CDC.
2. Blow up the buildings.
If there's too much hassle with it, step 1 can be skipped.
If you can prevent thousands of deaths from a novel virus, preventing your own death from an explosion and being trapped in the rubble of the building collapsing around you should be a piece of cake!
I suggest masks and social distancing are effective to prevent dying in a collapsing building.
Sign me up.
How about use the buildings to train an army of accountants to provide free expert witness testimony for all the people making less than $400,000 who will be attacked by the new army of IRS agents?
For reference, the US Army sent 57,500 ground troops, and 15,500 airborne troops on June 6th, 1944. That's only 73,000 against the 87,000 new agents authorized.
Think about that.
The Wehrmacht was not as well armed as right wing survivalist fanatics, apparently. (Sarc)
Well, yeah. Because the Mauser issued to the German Army in WW2 was not an assault rifle.
(bolt-action, 5 round internal magazine)
Make the CDC an Infectious Disease Epidemic Fighter Again
It's always been Center for Disease Control, never Center for Disease Combat. It's not about proactively fighting and eradicating disease, it's about defending a populace from the worst ravages of it. In the case of COVID, it not only failed but was, through intent or incompetence, complicit in many of the worst outcomes.
well, it's "Centers" not "Center". Not sure how you can have more than one center.
Any baseball fans out here remember last month when the Rochelle Walensky of the Blue Jays (Ross Atkins) made the statement "this is a collective setback, and ultimately that starts with me. I’m the one who needs to be most accountable for that..."?
Then instead of resigning, he fired someone lower on the totem pole.
No. Get rid of the CDC entirely.
Americans rightly fear their Federal Government: CDC, DOJ, FBI, FDA, NIH, and now the White House / Big Tech / MSM...
when will this end?
Twitter Becomes a Tool of Government Censorship
Facts that Mr. Berenson unearthed through the discovery process confirm that the administration has been secretly asking social-media companies to shut down the accounts of specific prominent critics of administration policy
Last Friday Mr. Berenson published conversations from an internal Twitter Slack channel. Referring to an April 2021 meeting with White House officials, one Twitter employee noted that the meeting overall was “pretty good,” but added that the White House “had one really tough question about why Alex Berenson hasn’t been kicked off from the platform.”
Mr. Berenson wasn’t the only target. At a July 15, 2021, White House press briefing with Surgeon General Vivek Murthy, press secretary Jen Psaki said: “We’re flagging problematic posts for Facebook that spread disinformation. . . . There’s about 12 people who are producing 65% of antivaccine misinformation on social media platforms.”
Aren’t these social media companies/Feds violating our civil rights? Sounds like a class action suit.
Yes. And it's clear and obvious.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/emails-reveal-extensive-coordination
One of (or perhaps the only) good things about bureaucracy is the resulting long, LONG paper trail. Uncovered by America First Legal and shared with the Washington Free Beacon, recently revealed emails between CDC officials and social media companies prove a long relationship in which the CDC provides ‘helpful examples’ about which posts and accounts should be censored for ‘covid misinformation’.
As I mentioned previously, one of the CDC’s examples of ‘misinformation’ regards male fertility:
(photo of files)
This is literally the CDC telling Facebook and Twitter (and maybe more!) what to censor and how to censor it — a blatant First Amendment violation for thousands of Americans. And as we now know, the CDC’s ‘information’ was the actual misinformation.
If they'd just been 100% honest about the disease from day one about what the risks, the goals, and the long-term outlook was, perhaps the CDC could have been useful. But the CDC wanted to dictate policy instead of simply advise. And the CDC's job isn't to come up with cures when novel diseases emerge-they played zero role in actually producing the eventual vaccine. They also didn't perform a risk analysis of the vaccine versus the virus that was worth anything.
What exactly is the role of the CDC, again? Advise, maybe? But they're too politically driven to actually provide reliable advice and half the country recognized that and no longer trusts them. So they're obsolete through their own choices and actions.
CDC: You can’t handle the truth!
The goals were to destroy the economy and Americans' independence.
Mission accomplished.
What about protecting deadbeat renters from eviction?
Relevant, looks like Journalist Alex Berensen won his lawsuit* with Twitter. And boy did discover uncover some very ugly things about *cough* Biden White House censorship on the platform.
To see the emails that were uncovered during discovery, click here.
And if any Reason writer ever parrots that "they're not legally censoring, they're just asking questions" bullshit again, I will challenge them to a fist-fight in a chain-link cage.
Short synopsis of the emails between Twitter and White House:
The important thing to keep in mind here, is Alex Berenson-- at least in regards to the specific tweet he sent said nothing that was untrue. What he said on Twitter is now considered common knowledge: That the vaccines neither prevent nor stop the spread of infection.
Berenson writes:
*perhaps "settled in Berenson's favor" would be a better way of describing it.
I don't know how to do the fancy code things to cross out your words and insert mine, but instead of *cough*, I think you meant:
*pulls down mask to cough into hand*
put the word: strike between less than/greater than brackets.
like so: (strike) but with lt/gt. Can't use them as an example because it sees them as code. Oh and begin with: (strike)crossed out words(/strike)
word<s>
striked out words</s> works too.as does
delete
remove spacing between characters
Thanks!
So how should this be handled?
Should it be illegal for a government employee to discuss with a social media company about banning specific users?
Yes. Of course. Only a fool can’t see this.
Gov should be encouraging companies to follow 1st amendment.
Yes. Arguably it already is.
If Trump was a threat to democracy because he was hostile to the media, then the Biden administration is an existential threat to democracy as well.
Not to defend the CDC, but nobody was able to control or prevent the spread of COVID19. It is hubris of the highest order to think we can stop an airborne respitory virus for which there is no prior immunity or effective vaccine (for those playing at home, there is still no effective vaccine.)
But we’ll get it right next time! You wait and see!
They cant even get gay men to stop attending orgies to slow monkeypox.
Yeah, their job isn't to prevent the spread of every last pathogen. Just like it's not FEMA's job to stop every last hurricane, tornado, or flood, the CDC's job is to prevent the catastrophic collapse of society as the result of a pathogen. A situation they arguably helped produce as the result of this virus.
Which is why all their bullshit 'suggestions' were bullshit. That's the whole problem. We knew it was too late but these idiots insisted that it wasn't.
Virus-flouting, disaffected, right-wing anti-government cranks are among my favorite culture war casualties.
Nothing wrong with them, though, that replacement won't fix.
Then explain why heavily Democratic areas like NYC were hardest hit.
Explain, clinger.
NYC was hit early, aided by Cuomo, but in the end NY was only the 16th worst state in terms of deaths per million population, FL was 15th. Southern states and NM AZ make up the worst 10.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
It seems states that use lots of A/C were hardest hit. Otherwise pretty random.
The economic effects were, of course, much worse in blue states that locked down.
Too bad the CDC was not providing any useful guidance, such as to ventilate with fresh air and stay outside as much as possible.
...and The Butcher of Albany sent "smallpox blankets" back into nursing homes populated by the most vulnerable in NY. Just flat out murdered them.
It always amazed me that we did not have a major program to add high intensity UV systems to all our HVAC systems (except of course mine! lol)
We KNEW that UVB and UVC would kill the virus and very small amounts of Ozone would do so as well. Yet, the CDC never suggested that these business' and schools upgrade by adding these systems and them open up.
Since we have known this for a LONG time, did we not do it because we are incompetent or for some larger motive?
The CDC had 2 years to comission a decent test on masking. They did not do it. They merely cherry picked studies that fit the political conclusions they had already reached. This meant dismissing masks when they were worried about a shortage, and then demanding them when they saw it could wedge the population against one another.
2 years and not one study of the effectiveness of masking in schools. 2 fucking years. Not once did anyone in that god damn institution think, "Man we have a bajillion dollars...let's do a study that gets shit right."
Fuck these guys. They are a political institution and they can go the way of the dinosaur for all I care.
It's not their job to commission scientific studies. That is the job of other federal agencies.
Maybe it should be their job, but it isn't.
The National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases (NCIRD) prevents disease, disability, and death through immunization and by control of respiratory and related diseases. In carrying out its mission, NCIRD: (1) provides leadership, expertise, and service in laboratory and epidemiological sciences, and in immunization program delivery; (2) conducts applied research on disease prevention and control; …
It most certainly is their job.
I wonder what Jeff thinks their ducking job is. It’s a huge agency, surely they’re supposed to be doing something?
is their a group of left leaning authoritarians in government you wont simp for?
Weird that you arent on team blue but every one of your posts involves supporting one of their pet causes
The bullshit that MMWR produced should have been embarrassing to the agency. It was straight up middle school science project level of competence/relevance.
They certainly knew what the study would say: masks do jack and shit.
It would be nice to see an actual libertarian-leaning practical solution to the problem of public health. Talk of blowing up the CDC or whatnot is just driven by emotion. Blowing up the CDC won't stop the next virus from coming here.
it would however stop an inept, anti-science, authoritarian response from occurring as a result of the virus.
And as the CDC is overrun with lefties, thats the only kind of response they can mount
We could stop paying people to create them for a start.
Good.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rare-move-school-librarian-fights-back-court-conservative-activists-rcna42800
Jones did not mention any specific title in her remarks, but said it’s a “false narrative” that librarians are putting pornography in children’s sections.
If this is true - and they have evidence - then she should be removed.
But the tactics of Doxxing her and threats should be punished. Same for libel against anyone else.
"Over the decades, the agency lost its focus on monitoring and fighting epidemic infectious diseases as it accumulated new branches and offices that aimed to combat "epidemics" of obesity, smoking, and violence."
Let's not forget gun control...
Eliminate the CDC completely. The CDC is way too corrupt to be rehabilitated.
Procedures were followed, but mistakes were made. Training will be updated after a thorough review. (Covers the response to pretty much any government mistake.)
Unfortunately, what the CDC learns from its ineffective overreach will undoubtedly be that they did not take action swiftly enough, or enact restrictions and mandates that were severe enough, or enforced nationally.
Be very afraid.
The CDC has been dropping the ball BEFORE covid. Remember how they were studying 'the vaping crisis' instead of restocking the national mask supply? And remember how, when all the vaping injuries were linked to black market products, their 'solution' was to ban legal products that hadn't hurt anybody?
Then during covid they fucked up the initial testing (after telling private companies they couldn't make a test), and then continued to hide data the whole time:
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/et-tu-snohomish
For more than a year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has collected data on hospitalizations for Covid-19 in the United States and broken it down by age, race and vaccination status. But it has not made most of the information public.
Kristen Nordlund, a spokeswoman for the C.D.C., said the agency has been slow to release the different streams of data “because basically, at the end of the day, it’s not yet ready for prime time.” She said the agency’s “priority when gathering any data is to ensure that it’s accurate and actionable.”
Another reason is fear that the information might be misinterpreted, Ms. Nordlund said.
Yes, the priority of the agency that ‘suggested’ we all wear masks and that the vaccine would end the pandemic — even while knowing it would do nothing of the sort — is CLEARLY ensuring data is accurate and actionable.
The CDC is worthless and a waste of money. Its functions can be better served by state health agencies coordinating between them as needed.
Can't wait for the next pandemic to eliminate 60% of the population of Mississippi under that plan.
It's quite clear a bunch of states would clearly fail if they didn't have a federal government overseeing them enforcing bare minimum standards.
Mmm, quite clear is it? And your evidence for that is?
CDC didn’t just screw up its own tests, it actively fought anyone else doing tests. Several academic labs, such as U Washington and UCSF were willing and able to test immediately, but CDC tried to stop them. CDC was actively hiding from reality. We need a National CDC, one that actually works.
This is comment 129 - and I'm not surprised that no one mentioned anything about the CDC's greatest failure which has killed over 2M #ChronicPainPatients since 6/2017 and continues to kill approximately 1300 #ChronicPainPatients/day!
When Trump created his Opioid Commission and mandated the CDC's suggested Opioid Prescribing dosage for new patients as the maximum dosage for ALL, the organization said nothing. in October 2018, the FDA made a comment regarding the cessation of opiate pain relievers & patients, but the torturing of these Americans, many being vets, continues.
The unanimous, 9-0, SCOTUS decision in Ruan/Kahn addressed governments overreach in prosecuting Drs. who prescribe opioids to their patients, but that case got little no PR. It's too bad that the anti-mask/vax/abortion crowds are ignoring this culling of cripples.
Are we not gonna comment on fuckface Trump's decision to disband the pandemic response team in 2018?
That fuckhead can be traced to a shit ton that went wrong with our covid response. Much like a bunch of other bullshit but especially that. JFC.
Because the "Pandemic Response Team" was doing such a great and effective job? Seems to me the the PDR mostly served the purpose of getting Trump on board for the bad policies we have been discussing.
Oh, and they got him to delay the "xenophobic" policy of trying to slow the transmission from China that actually did slow it some. Earlier would have been more effective ... not that it would have stopped it.
Yep, what we REALLY needed was Trump listening to Fauci more.
When you called Trump a fuckhead were you by any chance looking in a mirror? Just asking.