Brickbat: No Vacancy

Los Angeles hotel owners are speaking out against a ballot measure that would force them to house homeless people in vacant rooms. The Los Angeles City Council last week voted to place the measure on the March 2024 ballot. The city would pay the hotels the "fair market rate" for rooms occupied by the homeless. But officials haven't identified a funding source for the program. The measure would also require developers who demolish any housing units to build a new hotel to replace them with an equal number of "affordable" units. The proposal is backed by hospitality union Unite Here Local 11, which gathered enough signatures to push it to voters.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

The proposal is backed by hospitality union Unite Here Local 11, which gathered enough signatures to push it to voters.

They just want to help their fellow man so much.

[Adans smith]

Unions are a blight on society .

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[Unicorn Abattoir]

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[markm23]

If this is a typical union these days, the leadership has never cleaned a hotel room, let alone cleaned up after homeless people, and never consulted the actual workers before starting this campaign. OTOH, I suspect that if they had asked the workers, there’d have been a big divide between “Oh _hell_ no, I don’t want to have to clean up after _those_ people” and “Cool, huge messes mean lots and lots of overtime”.

[MoreFreedom]

To be fair, the funding for this should come from the Unite Here Local 11. They want to provide the rooms (and no doubt more work for unionized hotel workers) to people who wouldn’t pay for the room, have no incentive to not damage or steal from the hotel, and who have incentives to run off the paying customers.

Sad to see the government removing the property rights of hotel owners by forcing them to take customers they don’t want, and who don’t pay. It’s going to be great for one population: the bedbugs.

[swillfredo pareto]

no doubt more work for unionized hotel workers

Who will be clamoring to disband the union the minute they see the condition of the rooms they will now be cleaning. Conversely, they will demand an increase in pay, which will increase the cost for paying guests, which, along with the adjacency to drug addicts and schizophrenics, will decrease the occupancy, which will increase the percentage of rooms going to homeless people, at which point the Chateau Marmont is indistinguishable from a flophouse.

[Wizard4169]

Property rights? Ha! No such thing once you start trying to make a buck. Running a business is a privilege granted by the almighty state, therefore you may not do business with the disfavored, but you must do business with the favored.

[Mother's Lament]

Yeah, when I’m traveling I want to book a room next to the scab-covered, mentally-ill meth addict who likes to scream swears at 2 am,

[sarcasmic]

I’m sure you get enough of that at home.

[Mother's Lament]

Not everyone had your upbringing and life, sarc.
My parents never divorced and shuttled me between them, and I’ve never divorced either.

[sarcasmic]

Good point. Can’t divorce if you were never married.

[sarcasmic]

Seriously. I’m sorry your family is a bunch of bastards.

[VULGAR MADMAN]

Ideas!

[sarcasmic]

Still waiting for you to have one.

[VULGAR MADMAN]

Sick burn!

Tell me, it’s 4pm on a Thursday, are you drunk yet?

[Mother's Lament]

Remember this sarcasmic?

https://reason.com/2021/09/08/my-generation-inherited-the-aftermath-of-9-11/#comment-9090595

My parents wanted me.

[mad.casual]

Sounds like more of a problem with Los Angelenos generally than homeless Los Angelenos specifically.

[flag58]

As soon as a guest checks out you now have a vacant room and must let a homeless person move in. In 2 weeks every hotel will be filled with homeless people.

[Balloon maker]

Which would mean the program worked!

[CindyF]

I think it would be better if every official who supports such a government-taking would be required to house a homeless person in their own home. They could also be required to give any left-overs from their dinner to the homeless person rather than save that food for a midnight snack or tomorrow’s lunch.

[Social Justice is neither]

Not just a homeless person but a homeless person per 100 sq ft of living space they own/rent.

[Longtobefree]

Catch-22
The minute the ‘homeless’ person is assigned a room, he is no longer ‘homeless’, and no longer qualifies for the room.

May I suggest funding this by a 300% tax on both union dues and democrat political donations?

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Wow, just wow. CA never ceases to amaze me. So free rent in probably the most expensive form possible using hotels.

If this were to pass, I’m guessing vacant rooms will be slotted for re-modeling and not available for the program. Its not the hotels fault the contractors never shows up.

[Ragnarredbeard]

Yep, if I was managing a hotel I would make sure every room was accounted for.

[GroundTruth]

I would simply call upon the name of St. Ellis Wyatt, and pray for a fire.

[Kristian H.]

How would that not be a regulatory taking or temporary access leading to loss that the SCOTUS nixed in the last few years?

And the teardown / build back condition seems really shaky too (don’t even think too hard about the chances of actually building anything, much less 2 things, one to replace the tear down and the hotel) .

[Full Of Buckminster]

Even if it’s deemed a taking, paying fair market value for the room makes it legal (from that perspective).

[Kristian H.]

But there is no money in the bill. Where does it come from? Probably a tax on hotel rooms, seems the most likely prog response.

[Kristian H.]

And not sure the hotel industry would desire the glut of rooms. Or the rental industry. I mean, this is just so stupid on some many levels, I can’t really figure out WTH anyone was thinking OR feeling.

[evelynpiper]

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[Social Justice is neither]

I’m sure this will do wonders for the tourism industry for LA, giving visitors that relentless authentic experience of Democrat mismanagement. The only winner I can see here is AirBnB while the city still stands.

[Ragnarredbeard]

Until they pass a law that forces AirBnBs to give up rooms like the hotels.

[Don't look at me!]

Suddenly, and for no reason, there were no hotels in LA.

[VULGAR MADMAN]

“We need a government program to build hotels!”

[BikeRider]

In my wife’s hometown, the same management firm owns two hotels next to each other. One is sort of a bargain-level brand and the other is sort of mid-range. Family members have regularly stayed at the mid-range hotel for many years.

Last year, they made a deal with the local government to convert much of the bargain brand to low-income and homeless housing. If you made a reservation online, you wouldn’t know anything about this. You would just find yourself sharing the hotel with an even sketchier crowd than normal for “Motel-Low”. But word is getting out. Fewer and fewer regular guests are staying there so more and more subsidized guests are moving in. It’s a downward spiral.

The two hotels also share a parking lot. Now guests at the nicer brand are starting to notice the people and beat-up cars hanging around the lot all day and all night. They’re wondering about the safety of their cars and they’re starting to look for other places to stay.

Maybe it’s classism, racism, or some other X-ism, but people are NOT going to pay decent hotel prices to share the hotel with the homeless.

[BikeRider]

I might not have been clear. I’m not claiming that it’s any of those “isms”. However, I can see the advocates making the claim. My point is that advocates can complain all they want, but that won’t change the customer’s decision.

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

Well then they’ll just have to change their decisions for them. And if they can’t outright force them to stay somewhere they’ll just limit their choices. No one needs 27 different kinds of hotels to choose from anyway.

[Eeyore]

For me this changes nothing. I was already never going to visit LA.

If I did go, now I know I just need to pretend to be homeless and I won’t have to pay for a room.

[Brandybuck]

So the hospitality union is backing this? The same union that would have to clean the rooms of these homeless?

So this is a make work program, pure and simple.

[Don't look at me!]

No it isn’t. It’s a jobs program. None of them are interested in working, just a union job.

[CFred]

The proposal requires hotels to notify the city of available rooms (unoccupied/unreserved) by 2 PM each day.
The city then “rents” the room for a homeless person who is allowed to stay there until the hotel notifies the city that the room is needed for a booking.
There is no mention of who is responsible for notifying & removing the homeless person when it is time to leave, cleaning up after, or paying for damage.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

How could anyone question the intentions of a law abiding, totally not corrupt organization like UNITE HERE?

[sarcasmic]

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