New Jobs Report Shows Unemployment Back to Pre-Pandemic Levels
The better-than-expected employment numbers are fueling investors' inflation fears and causing the stock market to fall.

A jobs report released today by the federal government shows that employment has mostly recovered from the dark days of COVID-induced mass joblessness and that inflation may get worse.
The latest figures released by the U.S. Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) show that the economy added 528,000 jobs in July, bringing the unemployment rate down to just 3.5 percent. The number of unemployed people fell to 5.7 million, while average hourly earnings grew 5.2 percent.
That brings the unemployment numbers back to where they were in February 2020. Hiring by leisure and hospitality businesses drove these latest gains, according to BLS, although overall employment in that industry remains slightly below pre-pandemic levels. The labor force participation rate is also below pre-pandemic numbers.
In a sign of our weird times, stock markets declined at the otherwise good news. The Wall Street Journal chalked this up to fears among investors that the hot economy will prompt the Federal Reserve to hike interest rates more quickly to combat persistent inflation.
"Another month of mostly good labor market news adds another wrinkle to 'are we, or aren't we' recession debate. GDP is shrinking and inflation is high, yet the labor market remains strong," says Competitive Enterprise Institute Senior Fellow Ryan Young. He notes that the lower labor force participation rate means the workforce is still 2 million people smaller than it was pre-pandemic.
A Bureau of Labor Statistics report from last month shows inflation, as measured by the consumer price index (CPI), is running at 9.1 percent in June. That's up from the previous month, and the highest inflation has been in 40 years.
The Federal Reserve hiked the federal funds rate .75 percent last month in an effort to curb inflation. It previously did the same thing in June.
Democrats in Congress are pushing their Inflation Reduction Act, which includes a host of new tax and spending increases, to curb ever-rising prices. An analysis by the University of Pennsylvania's Penn Wharton Budget Model shows the bill would do nothing to curb inflation in the long term and might even increase inflation in the short term.
Young said in a statement increasing immigration and reforming occupational licensing laws would allow more people to find work while the Fed uses rate hikes to get inflation under control.
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I am no economist, neither micro nor macro, but damn, it's obvious that inflation is a result of too much money chasing too few goods, and equally obvious here where all that extra money came from. All interest rates do is throw people out of work to slow down demand -- "Hey doc, my shoulder hurts!" -- "Here, let me cut off your leg so you'll feel a different pain".
Damn I hate government. Bunch maroons.
It's a combination of creating too much money chasing less stuff. Countries that didn't print money are still experiencing inflation because the same amount of money is chasing fewer goods. In America we're getting it from both ends. And yeah, it's all thanks to government maroons adding money to the economy while preventing people from producing stuff.
Don't forget that oil is purchased in dollars, which is the world's reserve currency.
Higher Interest Rates slow the velocity of money, which is also a cause of inflation.
Higher interest rates also tend to prevent or ease bubbles because they give a decent rate of return to investors, who otherwise have to chase more risk to get returns.
Mind you, I am not a fan of the Fed managing interest rates. That is the primary cause of the boom and bust cycle. Interest is really just a price of borrowing- and like any other price, when you try to control that price, it distorts the market.
But that said, the Fed has been unreasonably keeping interest rates near zero for almost the entirety of the last decade (they were trying to hike again as we went into 2020). Forcing the price of borrowing to be abnormally low is potentially worse than hiking it higher towards sanity.
Higher interest rates are also a way for the Fed to draw back in some of the money they released. It is how they tighten the supply of money in circulation.
Hit the 5 year. Shows employment rate still below 2019 levels.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employment-rate
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Do unemployment numbers mean anything? Last I checked they don't count people who gave up on looking for work. Aren't those people still unemployed?
The labor force participation rate in the US edged down to 62.1 percent in July of 2022 from 62.2 percent in June.
That's a yes. The labor participation rate hasn't been this low since the late '70s (excluding the pandemic). Take a look at the chart to see how bad that is.
(Yes for your last question, not the first)
So that makes the unemployment rate more like 37.9 percent, not 3.5.
The labor force participation rate is not actually telling you this.
The Labor Force is equal to "The number of people working or Looking for work". So that participation rate actually INCLUDES unemployed people. The unemployment rate is the percentage of people in the Labor Force that are unemployed and looking for work.
The Labor Force Participation Rate is the percentage of people 16 or Older who are "Working or Unemployed, looking for work".
So the Participation Rate is merely saying that 62% of working age (16+) adults are currently employed OR looking for work. The remaining 38% could be retirees, disabled, or people discouraged from working.
While you can look at that graph and see that things are worse by a percentage point or two, you also can't say 38% of the population is "discouraged workers".
Someone who has given up on looking for work is still unemployed.
I don't disagree. But, as I noted, that 62% actually includes the 3 - 4% of people that are actively looking for work but unemployed. So if you just wanted to know the percentage of working adults who "aren't working", it would be something closer to 42%.
But again, that 38% who "don't participate in the labor force" includes people who "Gave up looking for work", and people who are not working (or looking) for other reasons- like being disabled or 95.
That was the only point I was trying to make. The whole reason we are discussing the Unemployment Rate (and labor participation rate) is that we are trying to measure the health of our economy. So it is important to note that the Labor Participation Rate has been declining since ~2000 and some of that decline is because of reasons that have nothing to do with the health of the economy.
er...percentage of working-age adults who "aren't working"...
How difficult would it be to figure out how many of the "aren't working" people are disabled or retired, and get an idea of how many "discouraged workers" there are. In my mind unemployment numbers don't mean much without counting people who have given up.
That would be the U-4 rate:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/U4RATENSA
Total Unemployed Plus Discouraged Workers, as a Percent of the Civilian Labor Force Plus Discouraged Workers is 4.1%, which is still pretty good historically. (3.7% seasonally adjusted).
thanks!
"Discouraged" makes up less than one percent? That doesn't seem right.
*Shrug*?
I suppose they could be fucking with the data. Most of the people I know who are on the employment margin (family who are contractors and laborers) are employed right now. They are getting fucked by inflation, to be sure. But they are employed.
Not trying to say my anecdotes are data, but it certainly seems plausible to me that we are in a hyper charged economy where a lot of people are working, and falling behind due to inflation. And that the next step is a recession where a lot of other people get laid off. But ymmv.
When I drive around I see "Help Wanted" signs everywhere. I see businesses cutting hours or closing because they can't find workers.
So after thinking about it, "discouraged worker" probably means "I'm too proud to do that shit."
Great discussion. I learned a lot (and will have to read it again to fully digest it). I always get more out of the comments (some of the comments anyway) than the Reason article.
If you look at the 10/25 year chart, it has been declining slowly for years. 67% 25 years ago, slid to 66% after the 2008 bust, down to 63% at the trough, a very slow climb up until COVID lockdowns, dip to 60% and back up to 62%, and a very slow climb since.
I don't know why the slide from 67%; wouldn't be surprised if it's more students taking longer to drop out, but that's not even an informed guess.
some of that decline is because of reasons that have nothing to do with the health of the economy.
Don't forget about the Boomers' SS and disability entitlements. The ratio of retirees/workers has a direct impact on the economy regardless of the reason why.
Yes, this was exactly my point. The demographics are changing. The labor force participation rate has declined from 67% over the last 20 years as people have gotten older or gone on disability.
The Prime Working Age participation rate is pretty stable:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300060
That's the labor force participation rate of Adults aged 25 - 54. Back in 2019, it was at 83%, and now it is around 82.5%. I wouldn't be surprised if that .5% are these discouraged workers.
For the record, the labor participation rate did increase moderately under President Trump before covid occurred.
By the way, that same rate went down the first 7 years of Obama's presidency, before it leveled out his final year.
Whatever you call it, it's time to stop government payouts to people who could be working but are not.
Every grocery store, hardware store, and restaurant that I know has signs up looking for workers. Why can't they get them? Because the Feds (and states in some cases) pay people more to sit home, than those people will make by pulling their weight.
So it really is a double whammy to those of us who pay our own way in some manner: my taxes are higher to pay for this insanity, and those people further drive the inflation cycle with the money that I'm forced to give them.
This country is suicidal!
https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2020/august/labor-force-participation-rate-explained
I know how the numbers are calculated. One of my favorite Mark Twain quotes is "Figured don't lie, but liars figure." Not counting "discouraged workers" is, in my mind anyway, how liars figure.
FuguredFigures oopsI don't think you do, because you wouldn't have said, "that makes the unemployment rate more like 37.9 percent". You would have said "That makes the unemployment rate more like 41.4%.
But even that would not have been an accurate measure of the economy's health.
I was doing quick math in my head to make a point in the comments section, not putting numbers into a formula for a research paper.
Yeah, I always have to roll my eyes when Biden congratulates himself on the low unemployment rate. Someone with critical thinking skills would ask "if unemployment is so low, why are all the stores and businesses looking for employees to staff up for doing the bare minimum? (i.e. have enough employees to open for the day)?"
Pre-pandemic (which is what Biden tries to compare to) I can't remember any store being unintentionally understaffed. During and post-pandemic, I can't go a week without being turned away from a store because they didn't have the staff to open that day.
We have an aging population. Also, during the pandemic, school closures resulted in women leaving the workforce. Many aren't back yet. And of course the lockdowns resulted in the loss of businesses and jobs.
One thing I don’t get about the low labor participation rate: what the hell are those people doing to pay their bills? Assuming they neither turn to crime nor move back in with their parents as adults, it must be nice to have so much passive income from investments to be able to afford to live without working well before retirement age.
Biden bucks, Trump bucks, absurdly low hurdles for disability installed during the Obama years, expansion of Snap, rent moratoriums that went on for 2 years, unemployment extended for nearly 2 years and student loan forgiveness. Why work when you can get by on the backs of those that do?
During the pandemic we had huge numbers of people just decide to retire before they would have, many just went onto SSI before they would have, and claims of disability increased and were accepted faster. On top of that lots of cops across the country decided to retire during the great purge of law enforcement.
Also, as far as I know, employment statistics make no distinction between someone being employed for minimum wage at the local burger place and someone landing a well-paying career job. There's a huge difference between those two types of "jobs".
I'd rather be underemployed than unemployed.
Average time at min wage is 6 months..
Then you get a quarter raise.
I dunno. Retail is absolute shit right now aside from making a strategic lateral move for a few dollars more. Some people I know have made out well doing that.
I work in grocery and it’s a nightmare getting help in all sectors. Stores, warehouses, trucks. Even exempts are bailing (though they’re probably also making lateral moves).
Part of it is definitely down to my specific company being unable or unwilling to pay competitively at entry level. And living right next to a county with a higher minimum wage.
But unlike in the past they’re not even trying to come in and find out how crappy the job is first. And there’s no plan (apart from some day in the distant future when the guns will do all the ordering and there will be robots) and zero silver lining on the immediate horizon.
It’s like they’re just waiting for some levee to break and everyone to come pouring back willing to work for peanuts. We’ve been in a state of almost perpetual crisis since 2020. And at my store anyway, it’s worse now help wise than at the height of COVID.
The only people who dribble in for work are kids who don’t give a fuck, retiree primadonnas in it for mediocre benefits, and special needs people who don’t realize they could do better anywhere.
Ahold/Delhaze is also all in on ESG/DEI… maybe that’s just a coincidence.
Could just be my specific company or industry imploding, but helps never been worse in the 13 years I’ve been there. And I can’t help feeling there’s still a spigot of money out there some of us aren’t privy to.
If your company is shorthanded, then they can't afford to lose more people, which means it is a good time for you to ask for a raise.
The number employed completely disregards 2.5 years of population growth.
See those percentages? They satisfy your complaint.
" . . . mostly recovered from the dark days of COVID-induced mass joblessness . . . "
Or more accurately:
mostly recovered from the dark days of government mandated mass joblessness
Our local paper here in the PNW recently had a headline that read “WSF (Washington state ferries) may have staffing shortages for months because of covid”.
I thought they left off one word right at the end….. “firings”. Yeah, our idiot governor has a vax mandate for all state employees. Curiously, this was not mentioned in the article. They’ve got the media covering for this stupidity.
But I’m sure joe Friday will be along to assure us that mandates never happened.
The unemployment rate means almost nothing without the labor participation rate.
This is because the unemployment number don't count people who have stopped looking for work.
You see OBL? Matthew here has those conservative talking points nailed down. Next time, do better.
You mean actual facts libertarians have used for decades instead if the Biden spin?
The unemployment rate including discouraged workers appears to be around 4.1% (3.7% when seasonally adjusted). It is still pretty good in historic terms.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/U4RATENSA
There, FTFY.
And that's why investors are spooked: the actual jobs situation is not good.
Hey what’s the labor participation rate. I care a lot about that from the years 2009-2016 and 2021-. Between 2017-2020 it didn’t matter that much though.
Do you have the slightest notion of how dumb you are?
Never, ever listen to people who think they know why the stock markets rose or fell on any particular day. There are thousands of factors that affect stock prices.
It also provides the false belief in actual logic behind the markets which is usually not the case.
Any of these statistics developed by the Labor Department are all based on fuzzy math, in that, it starts with a survey of 80,000 households. The survey of households is used to determine the employed and actively looking for employment. The DOL goes to work on the number and starts to eliminate various classifications of workers like farm or other seasonal workers from the classification. There are actually like six unemployment numbers. The that is released each is the lowest number.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/080415/true-unemployment-rate-u6-vs-u3.asp
The excellent job growth numbers may not harm inflation that much.
Many of the new jobs were obtained by working poor Americans that likely depleted savings accounts or went into debt during covid.
These working poor are likely going to divert any extra money into paying down debt and to rebuild savings accounts. Those workers will likely not harm the inflation problem.
Congress could also incentivize 401k savings plans so workers don't further inflate the economy.
“Congress could also incentivize…..”
Jesus….. there are no idiots more useful than those who want more government.
Unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs. Unemployment is low because people are working 60, 70, 80 hours a week and can barely feed their family.
South Dakota's unemployment was back at pre-pandemic levels a year and a half ago.
I wonder what the difference is....
Something about the numbers don't seem to add up. This make me wonder if the method to measure the number of employed people has changed or that the method is flawed.
I still see help wanted signs on nearly every business which I didn't before the economic lock down. Perhaps the number of people looking for jobs has declined which is reducing the unemployment rate even though there are less actual people working.
It seems that they are constantly repeating what they want us to believe even thought we can see the opposite before our own eyes.
You are on the right track. If you are age 55 and older, you are considered fully employed or no longer in the labor pool. People who have been looking for work for more than a year are no longer counted in unemployment figures. Similarly, if you are age 26 or younger and taking any college classes you aren’t in the labor force and can’t be considered unemployed. If you are receiving federal disability (and a record number of people are) you aren’t included either. These are just a few of the distortions built in to the DOL published unemployment figures.
Looks like Dominion is running the BLS:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/something-snaps-job-market-multiple-jobholders-hit-all-time-high-unexplained-18-million
The household survey and establishment survey diverge more and more every month. I think it's finally time to call a spade a spade and admit that the BIS is goal seeking numbers motivated by politics, and can no longer be trusted.
Proving they are a bunch of idiots over at the Federal Reserve. Adding 50% more dollars to the money supply to cover government deficit spending is the primary cause of our high inflation. It’s called monetary inflation. Increasing interest rates not only hurts consumers, but means the cost of financing the federal debt goes way up. How do you think the federal government is going to cover that? Right, more increases to the money supply that further fuels inflation.
The biggest news besides that is that there are still 2 million fewer Americans working now as before COVID.
All fake stats out of context. Fewer jobs filled now than prior to pandemic. Wage growth lower than inflation. Hours worked - falls in July.
Just not making life better. Not building anything worthwhile. Shame that people support this BS coming out of DC.
I think I read that the new jobless claim numbers came in at 256,000. This is above the long term average before covid of of around 220,000.
It seems incongruous to have so many new jobless claims, 500,000 new jobs, a decrease in the unemployment rate, a *decrease* in the labor participation rate, and the recent decreases in the GDP at the same time.
Unemployment is enormous difficulty at the current time.
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