Brickbat: Adding It All Up

California lawmakers are considering a bill that would require any company with at least 250 employees to make public the pay of all of its employees in the state and to break it down by age, race and gender. Advocates say this will help address inequities they believe exist in corporate pay. "It's very simple: You can't solve a problem where you can't see the data," said state Sen. Monique Limón, the Democrat who introduced the bill. "Hiding the data doesn't get us anywhere."

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[Vernon Depner]

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[Minadin]

That's an interesting way to admit that the wage gap is made up.

[Mockamodo]

“It’s very simple: You can’t solve a problem where you can’t see the data,” state Sen. Monique Limón, originator of the bill.

If you can't see the data what makes you think there's a problem to be solved? Google could be stocking up on firearms for an insurrection, how can we solve that problem if we can't see their daily purchasing account data to find out if they're buying firearms!?!

[mad.casual]

If you can't see the data what makes you think there's a problem to be solved?

What if the problem is plainly visible in the mirror, but you choose pretend it's somewhere else?

[Think It Through]

What if the mirror can't reveal problems? What if it's not a PROBLEM what the color of one's skin is or how one is identifying that day? Mirrors cannot reveal the content of one's character.

[workstar]

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[kcuch]

Legitimate researchers have all the data for this issue they need at the IRS. Bonus - it goes all the way back to 1916, but only for the 1% of the population required to report at that time.

(We had those evil 1%ers at one time, but let them slip through our fingers)

[John F. Carr]

A couple years ago some researchers mined tax records to learn that wives would lie about their income to avoid appearing to make more than their husbands. Not on tax returns, which were presumed accurate, but in contexts where the number could more easily be faked.

[Don't look at me!]

Chicks are always faking it.

[Fist of Etiquette]

In a free society, the things that are the state's business perplexes me.

[BigT]

If only we had a written list of what the gov was permitted to do.

[Will Nonya]

So, with no regard for the privacy of the people let's make these things public but leave out anybof the things that actually determine wages like time in the position, experience and job performance. No way this could be misconstrued...

[Longtobefree]

I assume that all democrats have less than 250 employees?

[Unicorn Abattoir]

The illegals aren't officially on the payroll.

[BigT]

Right of privacy if you want to kill your unborn kid, but not for your income.

Incomes are kept private to minimize envy and competition among employees.

[Vernon Depner]

I once worked at a business where each salesman's monthly take was posted on a bulletin board in order to encourage competition.

[Unicorn Abattoir]

If it's healthy competition, that's fine. If it's slashing the other guy's tires so he can't make an appointment, it's not.

[TangoDelta]

That's actually common in commission based jobs where each person's take is based on their output. Doesn't really matter if it's selling cars, oil changes, or cleaning carpets. You get more done, you make more money. There are also often bonuses for the top hustlers.

It's kinda like the police, where "top cops" like Gerald Goines pad their numbers so promotions come early & often.

[Libertariantranslator]

Another race suicide girl-enslaver bites the Moot Loser. That's the top right-hand corner of each box containing nationalsocialist or Republican race-suicide exhortations. Bye bye Prig Tee

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

This is a person (like so many anymore) that has no clue. Apparently, there are no longer any bounds. It's a fucking free-for-all and everything's up for grabs. Can we start a Mind Your Own Damn Business party?

[Brandybuck]

> Can we start a Mind Your Own Damn Business party?

We used to have one. It was called the Libertarian Party. Not sure what the current Mises Caucus stance is on minding your own business though. They seem to be all over the map these days.

[Libertariantranslator]

YOU CAN'T. Not until The Kleptocracy understands that Vices are Not Crimes and repeals all laws declaring them so. We used to have LP spoiler votes and elected libertarian County Commissioners to make this happen. But the Anschluss anarchofascists believe the important thing is to repeal NOT coercive laws, but "the whole progressive thing", which means nothing. Christianfascist and anarchofascist collectives want to remove individual rights and increase coercion at gunpoint, including extrajudicial killings. They admit this, albeit piecemeal.

[Rubbish!]

As a karate expert, I call attention to the (unfortunately, now) defunct The Rent Is Too Damn High Party. Perhaps the MYODB Party could fill that breakfastlunchanddinner gap. https://youtu.be/79KzZ0YqLvo

[MatthewSlyfield]

Is this just for hourly employees or does it cover overtime exempt salaried employees?

[Brandybuck]

Some European nations sort of do this, and those who live in those countries think it's normal. You can literally look up the tax records of your neighbor. Not employment information, but it will include all wages and salaries. Crazy. I note that those I have heard of are "no tall poppy" countries, with highly homogeneous populations. No way this would work in the US. No fucking way do I want my neighbor Karen looking at all my employee records.

Some stuff should be private. It's one reason I don't think not even presidential candidates should be forced to release their tax records. Not even Trump. Or Biden. Neither side.

[abhudd47]

Another way to say this is that California lawmakers are considering a bill that would require all individuals who are employed by a company with 250 or more employees to make public their personal financial information...

[TangoDelta]

Dear criminals,

We understand in these increasingly trying times of high inflation, homelessness, and shit in the street that you may be having trouble finding high earning targets to relieve of their monetary burden. To that end, we are going to pass a law that will make it very easy for you to choose the best households to rob, burgle, or ransom.

You're welcome, vote early, vote often, vote D.

Your humble servants,
California lawmakers.

[Libertariantranslator]

Hiding the data works! Everybody, even Bert Hoover, swore the stock market crashed and closed 28JUL1914 for some reason OTHER THAN Wilson's announcement that under the new income tax, "the returns, ... shall constitute public records and be open to inspection as such", and that "any State imposing a general income tax may, upon the request of the governor thereof, have access to said returns." Similar announcements were made in 1929 and later, before FDR took office. Useful lies enclose part of the truth.