Trans Author Jennings' I Am Jazz Is One of the Most Banned Books in the U.S.
The book may never achieve the cultural recognition of some other top censorship targets, but the fight over I Am Jazz symbolizes America's trans moral panic.

I Am Jazz is a 32-page children's book describing the childhood of co-author Jazz Jennings. Jennings, now 21, is trans, and her book, first published in 2014, attempts to explain to a young audience what that means.
"I have a girl brain but a boy body," I Am Jazz reads. "This is called transgender. I was born this way."
The book describes Jazz's frustrations when her parents made her wear "boy clothes" when they went out in public. Eventually it covers her first visit to a doctor, who explained to her parents that she was transgender. It also briefly discusses frustrations with being told to use the boys' bathroom in school and to play on the boys' soccer team. In real life, Jennings challenged the U.S. Soccer Federation's rules to be allowed to play on girls' teams. These days she's a YouTube star with a reality show on the cable channel TLC.
Though I Am Jazz doesn't delve into the psychological or medical treatments that are often part of trans therapy, the book hit enough buttons to fuel demands that it be kept away from children. The American Library Association listed I Am Jazz as 13th among the top 100 banned and challenged books of the past decade, just above The Perks of Being a Wallflower and To Kill a Mockingbird. Other books that introduce LGBT issues to young people are also high on the list, including And Tango Makes Three, a children's book illustrating the true story of two male penguins raising a chick together in New York City's Central Park Zoo.
In 2015, the Mount Horeb Area School District in Wisconsin canceled a reading of I Am Jazz after an attorney with the evangelical group Liberty Counsel threatened to sue teachers and school district staff for "violation of parental rights."
In April, following the passage of a bill in Florida that restricts discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity in public schools, I Am Jazz was yanked from libraries in the School District of Palm Beach County along with Call Me Max, a similar children's book about a trans boy. The book may never achieve the cultural recognition of some other top censorship targets, but the fight over I Am Jazz symbolizes America's trans moral panic.
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Books written by the mentally ill aren’t new. Some of them considered literary genius.
Fiction is one thing, easily relegated to where it belongs.
Manifestos and pseudo science specifically targeting the vulnerable are more insidious.
If we truly lived in an environment of free speech, where the lies could be exposed, such books would be less harmful.
But we live in the age of post truth and cancel culture where people are persecuted for exposing political lobby group lies. This censorship is increasingly codified in law. We’re getting worse, not better.
We can’t speak the inconvenient truth but we can cancel the hell out of things. The LGBT lobby should know this better than anyone.
"Books written by the mentally ill aren’t new."
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This isn't new.
It is a propaganda book directed at young children, in support of an ideology that verges on a cult in their near religious fervor. That a 13 year old wrote it without being directed by agenda driven adults is not credible. At best, Jazz Jennings is the Greta Thunberg of Alphabet activism.
That a 13 year old wrote it without being directed by agenda driven adults
Children that get trotted out for a political agenda are like vegan cats; you know the cat didn't make the choice.
Vegan cats are the starter trans kid.
I wonder how many "trans" kids have peanut allergy, celiac disease, and ADHD?
This moral panic is little more than a generational response to 4 Yorkshiremen one upmanship.
You kids are so spoiled. When we were your age we had to walk to school five miles each way and uphill both way.
Hell that's nothing. When I was that age, I was a girl trapped in a boy's body and school ade me read instruction booklets on how to cut my balls off.
…..me read instruction booklets on how to cut my balls off.
How did it go for you?
Went well. I decided instead to get an AR-15 and kill everyone at school. So now I fit right in.
I bet you molested them first before you shot all of them. Sick fuck.
Projection much?
Went well. I decided instead to get an AR-15 and kill everyone at school. So now I fit right in.
Well, you ARE in Colorado, the Mass Shooting State.
And soon to be the mass abortion state. We have a very clever tourism board.
Fast forward 5 years. Jazz Jennings has detransitioned, and writes a book "Love who you are" that disavows surgical and hormonal mutilation of gay children. How many lefties will allow him to have a voice then?
Not wanting teenagers to be mutilated, castrated, or sterilized isn’t a “moral panic”, it’s a very real and justified panic.
Calling it a "panic" is a trick of activist rhetoric to dismiss the other side of an argument out of hand without actually having to engage it. It is not as if the trans activists do not use the threat of trans suicide too justify passing laws and court cases to force the rest of society to affirm trans identity under force of law.
Wow, you've covered everything in two short posts. No need for anyone else to respond.
The only side using force here is the side that wants to use the state to ban medical procedures that they don't like.
No one is forcing you "to affirm trans identity under force of law". You are absolutely free, and should be free, to be a complete asshole towards transgender individuals if you want. What you shouldn't be free to do is to force every other parent to adopt your moral standards when it comes to raising their children.
Except for the laws now on the books in half a dozen anglosphere jurisdictions banning hate speech and actually being used to imprison and steal from people who refuse to speak the newspeak over mentally ill ugly people who will never be the other gender.
Which isn't happening here, isn't going to happen here, and even if it did happen here, the problem would be a violation of free speech, that has nothing to do with transgenderism per se.
You want to ban medical procedures for kids because you are afraid of a slippery slope that, sometime in the future, you won't be legally able to be an asshole towards transgender individuals? Is that really your position?
You aren’t making any sense.
Anyone, who states that there is such a thing as a "transgender" person is just as mentally ill as the ones, who think they are, and thus incapable of making sense.
Jesus, the cope in this post is off the charts.
No one is forcing you "to affirm trans identity under force of law".
Kiel, Wisconsin school district charges kids for using wrong pronouns
The Title 9 charges are way over the top. But kids aren't permitted to be bullies in school. The behavioral rules for kids are obviously different than they are for adults. Adults are free to be as big of bullies as they wish.
Wow, you managed to turn a 50 meter dash into a marathon with that goalpost-moving. But even still, it's totally okay to arrest and charge children for constitutionally protected speech because "lol they're children!", but it's not okay for parents to want books about sexuality removed from elementary school curricula despite the fact that "lol they're children!"?
No, I said that the Title 9 charges are way out of line. But I do think there ought to be rules for proper behavior of kids in school. Don't you? Disrespectful behavior ought to be regarded as unacceptable conduct, and yes that includes disrespectful speech. It should not be a LAW with a punishment of JAIL.
The Title IX charges are out of line, but you said that sort of law enforcement is NOT happening.
Standards are different for kids than for adults.
Adults are absolutely free to be as much of assholes towards transgender people as they like.
Wait. Kids are different from adults? You don't say. You just said kids should get life altering medical procedures above, not waiting until they develop mentally as an adult.
You are so inconsistent with your leftist bullshit.
You just said kids should get life altering medical procedures above
I didn't say anyone SHOULD do anything. That is the difference here. I am the one saying that these decisions should be left up to the kids AND parents AND doctors AND counselors AND therapists, WHATEVER they decide. If they decide to do surgery or not to do surgery, that is their call to make. I am not here to tell them what they *should* do. It is YOUR team which IS telling them not just what they *should* do, but what they *MUST* do under the coercive power of law.
If the parents and their dr. determine a kid should be a whore, well that’s up to them.
Jeff. Youre defending child abuse. Your same arguments are used by other groups such as NAMBLA. Kids are not mentally developed enough to choose permanent harm on themselves. This isn't cutting ones hair. It has long lasting damaging changes that can cause sterility and other issues.
Have you once bothered to read any of the detransition stories?
Or do you live in happy ignorance?
Kids are not mentally developed enough to choose permanent harm on themselves.
You're right! Which is why they ought to have parental permission. And parents ought to seek the advice of doctors and counselors and therapists. And those doctors and counselors and therapists ought to follow an established standard of care.
Isn’t it interesting that Jeffy always comes down on the abuse/predator friendly side of any argument?
So, let me get this straight: Disrespectful behavior ought to be regarded as unacceptable conduct, and yes that includes disrespectful speech,, which is why it doesn't count when cops arrest children for using the wrong pronouns, and thus No one is forcing you "to affirm trans identity under force of law", QED.
Disrespectful speech by kids in school has nothing to do with "trans identity" per se.
Yes or no, should schools establish a code of conduct? Should such a code include standards for respectful speech?
What is your point here - that bullying kids is okay if they are transgender kids?
And not even in the example that you cite did "cops arrest children for using the wrong pronouns". Nobody was arrested, nobody called the cops.
Not calling a boy a girl isn’t bullying. Forcing kids to say things that aren’t true is bullying.
"No one is forcing you to affirm trans identity, but your kids should be forced to affirm trans identity."
"It's not happening, and it's a good thing when it happens!"
Oh good grief with your gaslighting.
The original "bathroom panic", as Shackford so disingenuously referred to it, was a reaction to cities passing laws requiring private businesses to allow anyone who claimed to be trans to use the restroom facilities of the opposite sex (whether they presented as such or not), There has been a recent spate of legislation outlawing treatment of gender dysphoria that not gender identity affirming, there has been the Canadian law that brought Jordan Peterson into international fame mandating pronoun usage, there is an example in this article of the people behind Jazz Jennings suing to require that this biological male be put in the girls sports teams (somehow avoiding the issue of why there should girls sports teams if this is legally required). There are many other things that could be listed to prove the dishonesty of your assertion.
The original "bathroom panic", as Shackford so disingenuously referred to it, was a reaction to cities passing laws requiring private businesses to allow anyone who claimed to be trans to use the restroom facilities of the opposite sex (whether they presented as such or not)
And the objections to this were, largely, NOT about the use of coercion, but about some insane idea that there would be this horde of transgender people going to bathrooms and raping women, and so what was necessary to stop this was to use coercion in the OTHER direction, to FORCE private businesses to be the bathroom sex police. THAT was the panic. It was the implied assumption that transgender individuals were rapists and perverts. It was just a continuation of the old homophobic trope about gays generally.
And again, my examples were directed against your claim that trans activists are not trying to use the force of law at all.
My point is that no one is forcing you to believe anything other than what you want to believe about any trans individual. You are completely free to believe that trans individuals are mentally ill psycho rapist pedophile perverts. No one will throw you in jail for expressing that opinion. Letting trans individuals be free to be who they are is not FORCING you to affirm their identity. Letting trans individuals be free to use the bathroom of their choice is not FORCING you to ACCEPT the propriety of that choice. Just like letting any individual be free to make whatever non-NAP-violating choices they wish to make, does not FORCE to you ACCEPT that choice as valid. Get it?
You make speaking dissent illegal is the use of force to accept trans ideology. If you cannot legally dissent, then you are being coerced. The only thing that is really preventing the progs from going in the direction of Canada is the 1st Amendment, but it is not for the lack of the trans activists from trying.
In this country, you are completely free to believe that trans individuals are mentally ill psycho rapist pedophile perverts.
"You're free to notice it, you just can't point it out without legal penalties in some places."
Funny how this is the stance you take for this issue, but will sperg out about states not allowing abortion up until the moment the infant's feet exit the magic birth canal.
Or even after.
"some insane idea that there would be this horde of transgender people going to bathrooms and raping women"
so, only less than a horde of rapes by men disguised as women is okay with you
No. The parents are definitely forcing children who do not have adult agency to make lifelong decisions, often for woke points.
Your defense here is the exact same one NAMBLA uses to fuck kids jeff. But you've been told this. You ignore it.
Yup, and here comes Jesse with the most ignorant take of them all - parents blithely agree to radical surgery for their kids for the most trivial of reasons, their own social standing.
Shorter Jesse: "*I* can be trusted to raise MY kids. But THEY can't be trusted to raise THEIR kids."
Jeff. Have you read one account from someone who has detransitioned? Just one?
You dont think any parent anywhere has ever effected their kids for their own purposes? Munchausen doesn't exist? Is that what you're going with now?
The statistically impossible explosion in trans identity doesn't show it as a social contagion?
Youre arguing for kids to cause themselves permanent harm as long as an adult signs off on it. Youre fucked up.
Read just one detransition story. See if you feel the same. Because the detransition rate is climbing in line with the trans rate.
Jeff. Have you read one account from someone who has detransitioned? Just one?
Have you read the studies that I quoted below? I prefer studies over emotionally manipulative anecdotes.
You dont think any parent anywhere has ever effected their kids for their own purposes?
Sure, it happens. The problem is that you think it is widespread and commonplace and "what woke parents do". That is the insulting and hypocritical part.
The statistically impossible explosion in trans identity doesn't show it as a social contagion?
Why is it statistically impossible? The problem here with this type of analysis is that it assumes that the statistics of the past represented the true authentic selves of the respondents. In the past, say, suppose 1% of the population identified as transgender, and 99% did not. How do we know that all of that 99% were definitely not transgender, and that there wasn't a certain proportion of that 99% that did not identify as transgender only because of the social stigma that was associated with transgenderism at the time? You all talk about the "shy Tory" effect when it comes to political polling, why don't you think the same effect can manifest itself in other areas? So no I don't think it is necessarily a "social contagion", I think that is mainly a right-wing narrative meant to discredit transgenderism generally.
Youre arguing for kids to cause themselves permanent harm as long as an adult signs off on it. Youre fucked up.
So you want to ban all surgery on kids then?
So you want to ban all surgery on kids then?
If it encourages them to deny biological reality, then yes.
“So you want to ban all surgery on kids then?”
Man, that is one hell of a stretch. I hope you warmed up first.
Because it’s a binary decision according to Jeffy. Cut off their gentians or ban all surgery in children. That’s just the kind of great thought that comes from that fat fuck.
"...mainly a right-wing narrative meant to discredit transgenderism generally."
Yes, sane people discredit pandering to the mentally ill, especially to the point of the unfortunate damaging themselves, physically, when therapeutic mental health intervention is what is required.
Mother nature has a pretty solid record of knowing what's what, and I don't think anything "transing" has been in her sights.
Yup, and here comes Jesse with the most ignorant take of them all - parents blithely agree to radical surgery for their kids for the most trivial of reasons, their own social standing.
That's pretty much what happened with the Bloshinskys (Jazz's actual name), if anyone is actually familiar with that story beyond Shackford's deliberately omissive article.
You seem to have overlooked the laws banning "gay conversion therapy" (which in the District of Columbia even extend to adults who might seek it on their own).
So, let's say my kid has a cool friend born without legs and gets around in a wheelchair. Then the teacher has the class read some books celebrating other kids in wheelchair. If my kid asks for surgery to remove his legs, what should I say?
Actually Chemshit, no one is banning any medical procedures. What some states are doing to banning some medical procedures for MINORS,
If YOU want to get your dick cut off (would there be any of you left? Inquiring minds want to know...) it is completely unrestricted. If you want to cut your 11 year old's dick off, the answer is no in the State of Alabama. Of course, even in Alabama your 11 year old can choose for itself in just 7 years.
Not to people without morals.
Panics based on lies are always unjustified.
The idea that gender reassignment surgery is being performed on minors is a lie and always has been. No serious person is advocating that. Trans therapies for minors are purely hormonal in nature and can be reversed if the minor changes their mind. The fact that people keep perpetrating this myth is either a sign that they are ill-informed, or a sign that they know their position is too weak to succeed on its merits.
I suppose you could argue that you are "technically" being truthful since 18-19-year-olds are still technically teenagers. But they are teenagers who are adults. If you are mature enough to sign up to fight and die for your country, you are also mature enough to have cosmetic surgery performed on your genitalia.
I agree that democrats are not serious people, but there are a lot of them pushing this on kids. The real fix is to eliminate the progressive movement, and likely the democrat party as well.
What you are claiming would make sense but it simply isn’t true. I was just reading about a young woman who had the puberty-blocking drugs and testosterone treatments as a young teen. She had her breasts removed at 15. She’s 17 now and regrets those decisions. She’s been told she might not be able to carry a child and is at higher risk for some cancers. She certainly won’t be able to breastfeed if she is able to carry a child to term.
No, therapies for minors, which include "puberty blockers", can not be reversed.
The body goes through puberty at the time it decides it will happen, delaying that cannot be allowing the physiology to progress naturally.
"I have a girl brain but a boy body," I Am Jazz reads.
WTF? I literally cannot believe an allegedly pro-trans book uses this hateful language.
"Boy body"?! That's exactly what bigots say in defense of vile policies like excluding transwomen from women's sports and bathrooms: "Well, Lia Thomas still has an obviously male body so competing against female bodies is unfair." "Lia's exposed male genitalia makes teammates uncomfortable in the locker room." Well, I say f*** that!
NEVER use the other side's language! 🙁
#LadydickIsFemaleGenitalia
It's especially hurtful to me as a nonbinary (they / them) person who was assigned male at birth. Do I have a "male body" just because I stand while urinating? Of course not! I have a nonbinary neither-male-nor-female body because at age 19 I switched pronouns and began wearing nail polish once a month.
#ILoveScience
The nail polish.
*Chef’s kiss*
If republican Tran-substantiators manage to herd together enough morons in November, boys in places like Texas will get to choose among abstention, onanism and trannies. (https://bit.ly/3O1CZso) Opposite sex individuals with any sense at all will be on the other side of the Southern or Western borders.
So, parents have absolute authority to know what is best when it comes to educating their children. That's why we need school choice.
But, parents cannot be trusted to know what is best when it comes to their children's medical decisions. That is why transgender medical procedures must be banned by the state.
Do I have that right, libertarians?
Help me to understand this flavor of libertarianism which asserts that individuals should be free to make their own decisions that don't violate the NAP, except when it comes to children, in which case the state should be the one telling parents what decisions they may make.
Chemical castration can not be "turned off" if it is used on pubescent or prepubescent children. Penises can not be reattached if the child changes his mind. Mastectomies can not be reversed if a girl decides she wants to breast feed her baby.
Mutilating children violates the NAP. If they can not consent to sex with an adult, and can not legally enter into a contract, they can't make medical decisions for themselves, therefore anyone making the decision to conduct elective surgery which will destroy reproductive function is committing an act of violence.
How about tattoos? How about body piercings? Are those acts of violence that violate the NAP?
"Oh, but those don't affect major bodily functions." So? Where do you draw the line?
conduct elective surgery which will destroy reproductive function
What if the surgery is necessary to treat a medical condition? Suppose a teenager sadly has cervical cancer and the recommended treatment is a hysterectomy. Would the surgery be a violation of the NAP? Would you want the state to ban this procedure? "Oh, no, that's because the surgery would be to treat a disease". Well, gender-affirming therapy is also to treat a disease, a mental one.
There is an actual proper standard of care for treating transgender kids, you know.
https://archive.ph/UGClK
No one is seriously suggesting that kids should be able to do this without parental permission, or that this decision should be taken lightly.
How about tattoos? How about body piercings? Are those acts of violence that violate the NAP?
Over half the country has passed laws requiring you to be at least 16 (in most cases 18) before you can get a tattoo. Why even bring that up? In California you can make the decision to take chemicals to prevent you from going through puberty, at age 10, but you have to wait 8 more years to get a little picture of a heart on your shoulder.
Over half the country has passed laws requiring you to be at least 16 (in most cases 18) before you can get a tattoo. Why even bring that up?
Sure that is how it is, but I think that's also stupid. *With parental permission*, why not let kids get tattoos or piercings at any age?
Why not let them bang adults jeff.
Pity chemjeff wouldn't take the bait here.
I'm pretty sure this entire thread is collectivistjeff taking the "bait".
Dude is going full pedo
My theory is that while he may be a pedo, he doesn’t actually molest children. Likely because he’s too scared to try. In part, because I suspect a small child could beat the shit out of him.
Instead he devotes his energy to completing his leveraged buyout of NAMBLA.
Does NAMBLA even exist anymore? I thought they were destroyed by that civil lawsuit a few years ago.
I believe Jeffy is bringing them back.
Yeah, they did all get arrested at the end of the old South Park episode.
Because you support it, so it shouldn't be considered.
Because kids aren’t developmentally ready to make long term decisions like tattoos or having their dick split open and shoved inside their pelvises to make them think they have a vagina?
You could make an argument for ear piercing because the piercing can be removed at any time and the hole will close.
Chemshit, misspoke when you said "I think that's also stupid."
Everyone here knows you don't think.
“Why even bring that up?”
Because he’s dishonest.
No one is seriously suggesting that kids should be able to do this without parental permission, or that this decision should be taken lightly.
Now do genital mutations, or binding feet.
Is foot binding or "genital mutations" necessary to treat a medical condition?
Cosmetic surgery is cosmetic.
Explain how treating someone for gender dysphagia requires you to make then look like the genetic development based on opposing DNA.
Your own argument is circular.
On top of that suicide rates do not go down for your proposed treatment. The regret rate for surgery and permanent changes is huge in the community. The surgery can't be undone.
Youre pro child mutilation at this point.
Explain how treating someone for gender dysphagia requires you to make then look like the genetic development based on opposing DNA.
https://www.wpath.org/
Ask them, Jesse.
On top of that suicide rates do not go down for your proposed treatment. The regret rate for surgery and permanent changes is huge in the community. The surgery can't be undone.
https://archive.ph/p9Jly
In 2011, de Vries and her colleagues published the first of two landmark studies about medical interventions in adolescence. Among the first 70 patients who received puberty suppressants at the Amsterdam clinic after their initial assessment at the mean age of about 13½, the researchers found “a significant decrease in behavioral and emotional problems over time.” A second study published in the journal Pediatrics in 2014, of about 55 of those who went from puberty suppressants to hormone treatments at the mean age of about 16½, showed that five years after starting hormone treatments and at least one year after surgery, they had the same or better levels of well-being as a control group of cisgender adults their age. None of the 55 regretted their treatment. (The 15 of the original 70 who were not included in the follow-up study did not take part mainly because of the timing of their surgery.)
You literally used a study created by activists that is widely disputed for your defense? Do you have more propaganda for us?
https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/sex-reassignment-doesnt-work-here-the-evidence
You are also using a study that stopped at 5 years. Why? Nearly all the detransition stories put that timeline when they still believe they chose correctly and not entered regret. Long term what are the rates like jeff? Stop using propaganda.
You are complaining about propaganda, while then citing The Heritage Foundation? Really?
And even from your own link, the studies don't conclude that gender reassignment "doesn't work", only that the results are mixed - it may help some, it may not help others. Yet another reason for the heavy hand of the state not to get involved. For experimental drugs, we around here routinely advocate that patients ought to have the opportunity to try them out if they wish, and not to be protected against them 'for their own good'. Why not the same here?
Fuck off and die, Mengele
You’re comparing someone who has nothing to lose by trying an experimental drug that could save their life to experimental treatments for tranny ‘transitioning’? Are you really this intellectually dishonest? Or just too stupid to understand the difference?
Some people think it’s an improvement on the body.
It's not for treating a medical condition.
Sounds like a mental problem to me.
At bodily function.
Neither tattoos or piercings are designed to affect normal bodily function. In some cases they may augment it, but neither removes it.
Additionally, parents don't get to okay their underage kids full body tattoo.
Then its not elective surgery and is completely outside the scope of this issue.
And the issue is not the diagnosis. The issue is the liberality with which the diagnosis is applied.
In the past, such a diagnosis came after years of therapy, and the radical treatment of sex re-assignment surgery came years after that, with intense prep and counseling.
Now, one can get hormones easily, and surgery to remove working body parts is readily available--provided that removal is sexual in nature. Dysphorics who 'feel' they shouldn't have legs or arms or eyes or some other part do not have their delusions catered to.
Aren't they though? That's what a lot of these suits are about. Adults talking to people's children in secret about these topics. Teachers telling kids that they're 'trans' because they like things that are typically liked by the other sex. Helping them to 'trans' at school and hide it from parents.
And if you don't think some blue-haired fur-mommy thinking that having cats gives zir some insight into raising children that outstrips that of actual parents is taking this issue lightly, then you have just as many issues as these idiots.
At bodily function.
Neither tattoos or piercings are designed to affect normal bodily function. In some cases they may augment it, but neither removes it.
So mutilating children is okay if there is no permanent harm? Is that seriously your argument?
Aren't they though? That's what a lot of these suits are about. Adults talking to people's children in secret about these topics. Teachers telling kids that they're 'trans' because they like things that are typically liked by the other sex. Helping them to 'trans' at school and hide it from parents.
Then the issue is the secrecy, not the transgenderism. Wanting to ban transgender therapy for kids because teachers were being secretive is insane.
Youre arguing above for mutilating children with permanent harm.....
So mutilating children is okay if there is no permanent harm? Is that seriously your argument?
Isn't mutilation sort of by definition causing permanent harm? Seems like a fairly bright and definable line.
Chemshit, you are a disgusting excuse for a human being,
So mutilating children is okay if there is no permanent harm? Is that seriously your argument?
Can you explain how we got from 'tattoos and piercing' to "mutilating children"?
Then the issue is the secrecy
No. Some secrecy is fine.
It's the 'don't tell your parents that the teacher is discussing explicit sex and genital alteration with underage kids' kind that's not. And that's grooming and transgenderism.
What if the surgery is necessary to treat a medical condition
Then its not elective surgery and is completely outside the scope of this issue.
Actually, as a lot of people found out to their dismay and detriment during the pandemic, a lot of life-saving or health-restoring surgery is classified as "elective."
Here jeff compares cutting off a dick for cosmetic reasons to cancer
Jeff is retarded.
"Gender-affirmation surgery" is more like having your ears chopped off than it is like having your ears pierced.
A 10 year old cannot walk into a tattoo parlor and get inked, even with parental consent.
Tattoos are more easily removable than gender mutilation surgery.
https://notthebee.com/article/this-heartbreaking-thread-from-a-detransitioning-person-shows-just-how-barbaric-wokeism-is
Genital mutilation for cosmetic reasons
Tattoos
Ear piercings
“One of these things is not like the other, one of these things is not the same”
Jeff compares cutting off your child's dick to choosing which state accredited school they should attend. And pretends he is an honest person.
I'm pointing out your hypocrisy. You demand the liberty to raise your kids as you see fit, but you fundamentally do not trust the liberty of other parents to raise their kids as they see fit.
No. You compared permanently cutting off a dick to either home schooling or choosing your preferred state accredited school.
Just say it Jesse: you want to control parents in how they raise their kids
You only support school choice not because you genuinely support their choice to pick any curriculum they want, but because you want to take away from them a public school curriculum that you believe is harmful - you're paternalistically doing it 'for their own good', just as you are doing here.
Sounds like you hate it when it goes against whatever your lefty boos want, fat boy.
No, you’re comparing home schooling with surgical mutilation of a child. Do you not see a difference?
Of course. Surgical mutilation is "medically necessary" and should be freely permitted at the option of the parent and maybe of just the child (for example, when the parents disagree about chopping off body parts). Choosing how to educate your children might lead to telling them that species didn't arise through evolution, or that there are only two sexes (and that gender is a grammatical concept, not a biological one), so it's really potential child abuse that can only be permitted under close state supervision.
Either way, Jeffy is too scared to answer. He’s generally afraid of me. He talks to Jesse because, like Sarcasmic, he has a crush on Jesse.
It does not surprise me that Jeff would try to say opposing child abuse means you don't support parental rights.
Authoritarians try to classify parenting decisions that they don't like as "child abuse" so that they can exert control over everyone else's kids.
Yeah, except you want child molesters to be able to immigrate here, so your opinion about the well-being of kids has no credibility.
He will never address that. He also always takes whatever side on an issue that advances the abuse and/or molestation of children.
I am afraid of what Chemshit's real world behavior is. If what he posts here is any indication, the FBI should be at this door any minute.
I’m wondering if a Buttplug is having legal difficulties. He hasn’t been around lately. Or maybe some kid’s dad shot him in the balls with a 12 gauge shotgun.
Or some things are demonstrably harmful to children and shouldn't be allowed.
But that is not true in general of gender affirming care.
Isn't it though? Do some reading on Jazz Jennings' current condition. She's on a regimen of pills she can never get off, she has gained hundreds of pounds, she is sexually dysfunctional and depressed, and she will never be able to reproduce.
If she had made those decisjons as an adult, that's her business and her problem. But she made those decisions as a child, and is now irreperably harmed. Even if she wanted to detransition, she can't.
Even surgeons who perform gender surgery say that giving children puberty blockers at a young age is objectively harmful to them, because it prevents proper maturation of tissues which makes it impossible to create functional sex organs. Organs created out of inadequate tissue are also highly prone to serious injury when trans people try to have sexual intercourse.
So, NOT ONLY is it preventing healthy return to pre-transition gender, it's ALSO preventing adult transitioners from being able to have successful genital surgeries. That doesn't even address the lack of psychological and mental health care, as evidenced by the elevated suicide rate among trans people even after treatment.
Seems pretty harmful to me.
Why do you keep referring to him as "she"?
‘Jazz’ is now one of part of the sea of chubby ‘they’s’ and ‘they’s ’.
Fuck off until you have your own kid, and then we can talk about parental rights.
On second thought, don't have a kid, since that would be cruel. Just fuck off.
I don’t see Jeffy reproducing. Do you think he’s a virgin? Or maybe he found a chubby chasing version of Tony to plow him.
No, they do not have absolute authority when it comes to education. They need to provide their kids with a basic education: reading, writing, mathematics, etc. That is being enforced.
They do have an absolute right to teach their kids about morality and sex.
They are prohibited from subjecting their kids to dangerous medical procedures, to mutilate them, to castrate them, etc.
It’s an imperfect system, but it’s the system we live under.
We could also live under a libertarian system. Under a libertarian system, parents are not prohibited by the state from doing such things, but in a libertarian society, these issues would just not come up.
Chemsockie's argument sounds sooo familiar. (https://www.fortfreedom.org/b29.htm) From 1972 through 76 the LP vote share grew at 12% a year. Anarcho-looter infiltrators from both halves of the Kleptocracy moved in and suddenly "we" stared agog at demands that child molesting be mandated where before there was a demand that laws pointing guns at doctors and pregnant women before the 100th day be repealed. No vote share increase occurred from then until after the Bush Crash of 2008.
Hank, if you’re pretending to be someone else you can’t use the exact same bizarre references and phrasing as your other sock.
>moral panic
Actual child molesters are using trans ideology to gain access to kids. These people are not being prosecuted because the government officials who should be protecting children agree with the pedophiles stated ideology, and communists will sacrifice any number of people to any number of horrid fates in order to win.
Actual child molesters are using trans ideology to gain access to kids.
How many child molesters are using trans ideology to gain access to kids? Is it such a large number that it requires the state to pass additional laws? The answer is no.
That is the moral panic aspect.
Team Red is demagoging the hell out of this issue using children as props.
Yes there should be a law stating that causing a child younger than the legal age of consent to perform on stage at a venue licensed by the state or otherwise established for nude or semi-nude live performances while the child themselves are semi-nude should be illegal.
I think that is too broad and can encompass situations that are totally innocent.
What is so wrong with leaving parenting decisions up to parents? Why don't you trust parents?
Some parents leave their kids in dumpsters. Is that ok?
Nope, not okay.
But the parent chose it with the kids. Told them it was an awesome space ship for them to live in. So the child and adult agreed.
Was it a medically necessary procedure?
Chopping off children’s genitalia is not a medical necessity.
Many doctors disagree.
"Many doctors disagree."
Doctors think kids will die if they do not get their genitals mutilated? I'd love to see any study to demonstrate that kids would die without this.
to chemjeff, doctors are a priestly class.
I think doctors opinions on medical matters carry more weight than yours.
the problem chemjeff, is you are unwilling to exercise your own moral judgement against a doctor because a doctor is credentialed, and you are not. i am not so blinkered by a medical license.
No, he just uses doctors as a cover for a pro abuse, pro mutilation agenda. It would be one thing if it were a single issue with him. It’s not. Jeffy consistently comes down on the side of rapists, child molesters, groomers, etc. for years.
Larry Nasser was a credentialed doctor, with a valid medical license and everything.
I think doctors opinions on medical matters carry more weight than yours.
Maybe consider the opinions themselves rather than the credentials. Medicine has gotten many things tragically wrong over the years. There are enough regretful detransitioning stories now that this should be questioned strongly. And the move to "gender affirming care" is a complete dereliction of duty by doctors and psychologists.
"to chemjeff, doctors are a priestly class."
Not all doctors. Only establishment, government doctors.
Just want to point out that chemjeff just said he is ok with children getting up on stage in a strip club and performing while semi-nude.
I am not "ok" with it. I am uncomfortable with blanket bans by the state. Do you understand the difference?
outline hypothetical behavior for me where a ban on "causing a child younger than the legal age of consent to perform on stage at a venue licensed by the state or otherwise established for nude or semi-nude live performances while the child themselves are semi-nude" prevents that behavior.
ChemShit is not "ok" with it, he organizes it.
oh my god no I don't understand the difference Jeff
Didn't we just have a discussion on populism vs. elitism?
Why is it that it's the self-proclaimed populists, who reject the arrogance of elitists telling them how to, say, manage a global pandemic, are nonetheless the ones most likely to want the state to dictate to every parent how to raise their kids when it comes to educational curriculum or when it comes to medical decisions?
Because it’s their kids and not the bureaucracy’s.
In this case, the "populists" are the ones demanding that bureaucrats force parents against making medical decisions for their kids.
The topic of conversation here is school curricula and “banned” books. Parental decisions regarding elective surgery are a separate issue, although the notion that parents opting for major elective surgeries for their children is a red flag is hardly novel.
You keep conflating medical issues with mental issues. They are different things.
Do you treat anorexia with liposuction?
Treating mental health is just as much a part of health care as treating physical health.
Do you treat anorexia by just telling the patient to 'get over it'?
You don't treat it by encouraging them to undergo radical body-altering surgery that's the opposite of their actual gender.
I will trust the opinions of doctors over yours.
Do you trust the doctors who performed lobotomies? The eugenicists? Those who infect groups with treatable and debilitating diseases and fail to tell them?
A doctor may advise killing the child. A doctor may advise cutting all the child's limbs off. Do you trust that doctor?
If the State refuses to protect the weakest from those stronger who want to kill or maim them, then the State is no longer acting as a necessary evil, but an intolerable one. Under those circumstances, who dares argue the State should continue to exist?
Except when they go against what you want, of course.
Or appear on Joe Rogan…
Well, you’re excruciating to interact with, as usual. Such a worthless, sophist piece of shit.
Let's make this more accurate--
There.
You definitely don't treat anorexia by telling your patient she is too fat. That's pretty much the parallel scenario.
To go with the current "gender affirming" treatments, you would start an anorexic, who is convinced they are too fat, with diet pills, followed by gastric bypass surgery.
"Many doctors disagree." Yet since 1914 the Treasury has decided who may be a physician: anyone who blindly follows government pseudoscience and eagerly commits perjury at the bidding of Treasury Department lobbyists. Treasury, under color of economics, declares that vices are crimes and engages in at-gunpoint coercion of physicians to the detriment of economic stability.
At this point I’d like to see a meaningful or useful definition of the term “banned”. Shackford is including not teaching I am Jazz in class or not carrying it in libraries. Okay. Now do The Turner Diaries. Certainly, the level of prohibition for that equals or probably exceeds Jennings’ book. Should libertarians be insisting that it is only right and proper that it be carried in public school libraries and taught to grade Schoolers?
Yes, his argument is simply the equivocation fallacy.
Ok groomer. Where in this piece of propaganda is the section on Jazz's current life and issues? Oh, you marxist cunts don't want to highlight the real harm done by your insane ideology, wonder why.
Conveniently ignoring the real life outcome of the author unfolding before our eyes is very rich. I also missed the part where any books were confiscated from kids. Removing something from the school library is not and never will be the same as banning it.
Doctors have engineered a working for giner for Jazz, haven't they? (And by working, I mean a hole for other wieners to go in).
Depends on what you mean by "working".
Yeah, funny how Jaron Bloshinsky's massive weight gain, multiple post-op surgeries because his fake pussy keeps trying to close up, prescription to roughly 30 medications, and stunted physical development were all glossed over here.
Once again, the book is not banned.
It's available for purchase on Amazon for $15.99 in print and $9.99 for the Kindle version. It's also available for $15.99 at Barnes and Noble. There is a digital copy available through my public library, as well as 21 copies available at libraries throughout the state- all available for inter-library loan, so you don't even have to drive to another branch to get it.
If parents want their children to read this book, they are free to purchase it or go get it from the library.
It's not "moral panic" for parents to not want strangers to read this book to their kids in the classroom. If parents want their kids educated about teansgender ideology, they should do it themselves. Obviously, based on your endless lists of BANNED BOOKS, there is plenty of material available to facilitate that.
It's not "moral panic" for parents to not want strangers to read this book to their kids in the classroom.
Why not? What exactly are you afraid of? Kids will go home and say "I want to be like Jazz and chop off my penis" or whatever?
Same reason you don’t take kids to slasher movies.
Why not?
Why are they wasting time teaching sexuality to toddlers? Shouldn't that time be spent teaching them to read? Or math? Or science? Why are schools wasting my money and the children's time with this? Shouldn't you be outraged about that instead of the possibility that toddlers might have to wait a few years for sex ed?
Math and reading proficiency for American students is abysmal. They should be focusing on that in elementary grades.
I'm not sure how gender topics make children more prepared for reading and math.
First, reading a children's story about a transgender kid is not equivalent to "sex ed". That is just dishonest. Is Snow White a story about "graphic heterosexual sex"? No? Fine then.
Second, for heaven's sake, kids like to have story time. There is enough time in the day to do math and to have story time.
How about “In Cold Blood”?
How about "Bible Stories For Children?"
Or “Mien Kampf”?
Or "How to Build Your Own AR-15"?
Apparent Struggle?!
my mom was friends with the girl from that family.
Jeffy, I’m guessing you’re creepy enough in your real life that no one will leave their children alone with you. Which is very good. You are definitely a malignant individual, especially when it comes to the safety and welfare of children.
It is presenting a very controversial view of things that currently divides society as fact. Public schools should stay away from such issues at least until a bit more of a broad consensus emerges.
You're being too kind. It is not just "controversial"; it is objectively harmful.
If you go by some of the stuff posted on Tik Tok, it is because their gender dysphoric teachers feel better having their identities affirmed by small children. What that has to do with teaching those kids foundational skills is unclear.
I believe, at least part of it, is the cockamamie idea that kids become masculine or feminine through environmental encouragement, and not natural instincts.
Little boys gravitate to toy cars and trucks, while the young girls play with dolls.
So they are trying to introduce children to different inputs than have been the tradition, to let the "real" gender be revealed.
Of course, they are fucking up the kids in the same way they seem to have been fucked up.
Reading, math and science are White Supremacy just like being on time so banning that is good. Mutilating yourself and getting your holes plugged is good so the nihilistic left mandates it.
Are you really asking why parents don't want strangers talking to their children about sex and sexuality?
Reading a children's story book is not "talking to their children about sex and sexuality". Knock it off with this disingenuous right-wing talking point. I Am Jazz is not a story about "sex and sexuality", any more than Snow White is a story about "sex and sexuality".
Have you read it?
Of course he hasn't. He's just reflexively repeating what other people have told him about it.
One must wonder why the T's hitched their wagon to the GLBs if, as chemjeff asserts, transgendered identity is not about sexuality.
A children's story about a prince and a princess falling in love is a cute fairy tale.
A children's story about two princes falling in love is GRAPHIC SEX TALK and should be banned in order to protect the kids.
One is normal, the other is not. That basic biology. Leave the deviant content for an older age group.
I know your capacity for understanding is limited, but there are millions of OTHER books for elementary school teachers to read for story time, which don't involve hetero OR homosexual sexuality.
They could read a book about a choo choo train who was able to get up the hill through determination, hard work, and believing in herself.
They could read a book about a caterpillar who munched through a bunch of plants and then took a nap in a chrysalis and became a beautiful butterfly.
They could read a book about a naughty bunny rabbit who disobeyed his mother, broke into a dangerous garden, gorged himself on vegetables and almost got caught by the nasty farmer.
Why do they specifically have to read a book about a trans kid, except to inject controversial topics into the classroom, that they already know are going to be objectionable to many parents? The only reason for doing that is to draw controversy so you can cry about it after.
They could read a book about a little red hen who asked all of her friends to help her make some bread, but they all refused and then when the bread was made they all showed up with their hands out.
They would probably present it so that the little red hen was the evil capitalist, hoarding the bread.
There is sort of a basic difference there. Children's model of a relationship is their parents. And, in the overwhelming majority of cases, because of basic biology, that's a man and a woman. Their thinking about the relationship isn't sexual. They're not thinking about Daddy putting his penis in Mommy's vagina. They're thinking of two authority figures who use that authority over them for their good. They see them as "the benevolent king" and "the benevolent queen", in both masculine and feminine forms. The stories of the princess finding her Prince Charming is a call for the young girl to eventually take their place in that world, eventually supplanting the existing king and queen in that role. At most, it's only tangentially sexual. And even that's a stretch. But, there's a real question, and it's not a trivial one, about how do you adopt that to two princes or two princesses. The issue at play isn't the masculine-feminine dichotomy and how those work together. It's specifically replacing those characters with overtly sexual ones. That is to say, the same sex relationship is the focus of the relationship, rather than the characters as ersatz mother and father figures. And I'm not sure it's even possible to cleanly divorce the sexual nature of the arrangement from the presentation in a way that a mother figure and father figure obviate.
15 years ago, the argument was that same sex marriage should be allowed because it's no business of mine what happens in someone else's bedroom. It wasn't a slippery slope because these people just want to live in peace.
Now, a lot of people argue that if kids watch shows about heterosexual people falling in love, they should also be watching shows about homosexuals falling in love.
Society has no vested interest in promoting homosexual relationships. They are not equal to heterosexual relationships. In 30 years, when the population replacement rate is below 1.5, 20% of the population identifies as "non-confirming" and vast swaths of the population are suffering due to the economic difficulties caused by an incredibly old and shrinking population, people are going to debate about what happened and how to fix it.
This is a hill to die on. Heterosexual relationships are the norm, are preferential to anything else, and should be encouraged as such.
With today's reproductive technology and the availability of surrogacy, sexual orientation and reproduction are really two separate issues.
Lol. And you think it’s the right that is pushing a Handmaid’s Tale version of sexual slavery.
Hey guys, we’ll just force fertile women into being surrogates for all the sterilized population.
Please copy and paste from where I suggested forcing anyone.
Please show me in history where crisis have not resulted in force?
Please don't ascribe your fantasies to me.
So each child produced will cost in the neighborhood of $20K after insurance?
Like I said, shrinking population.
And a lesbian asking a male friend to fill up a turkey baster costs $0. If gays want to be parents, there's ways.
I'm sure that will be happening here and there.
"If gays want to be parents, there's ways."
But the point is that people won't be having kids anymore.
How many gay people have kids vs straight people? If 10%-20% of the population is gay, how much will the replacement rate drop simply because of the rate at which gay people have children?
"how much will the replacement rate drop simply because of the rate at which gay people have children?"
I don't see the evidence that the rate at which gay people have children is dropping. It appears to be the opposite.
I’m worried that some boy is going to go home confused because he likes pink and his sister’s Barbies so he starts thinking that obviously means he’s a girl.
They are literally setting back the movement society has made in getting away from stereotypes by actively reinforcing them. Fuck that shit.
Yes, the idea that some thoughts and feelings are acceptable only for boys or only for girls used to be called "sexism". The sexual liberation movement fought against that belief, insisting the Men and the Women had to be big enough tents to include all males and females, regardless of how well they conformed to traditional sexual stereotypes. Genderism is sexism, and medically "transitioning" is the most extreme expression of sexism possible.
And ordered society has gone downhill, ever since.
Since what?
People like you destroyed this kid’s life Jeffy. By treating his mental disorder as something real and encouraging surgical mutilation. I know you’re proud of yourself for this, but real humans regard you as a monstrous inhuman piece of shit.
And they are correct.
Don't you speak woke? If something is not provided free via government funding, and not officially celebrated or imposed on society, then it is "banned".
Just like if people push back against progressive totalitarianism, they are "fascist".
In this book:
From the time she was two years old, Jazz knew that she had a girl's brain in a boy's body. She loved pink and dressing up as a mermaid and didn't feel like herself in boys' clothing.
Does anyone else understand why THIS sentiment might actually be harmful to some young boys? The sentiment that if they don't like certain things they might really be a boy?
Unfortunately, however, this book is literally aimed at 5 year olds, so there's just certain sentiments they can't actually explain in any proper depth, so you get this explanation that's so simplified to make it inaccurate. There's a reason this book is banned. It's not age-appropriate material for its target audience.
Also, let's talk a little bit about human development.
2-3 year olds don't have a lot of freedom. Parents are deciding what they eat, when they eat, where they go, and generally, what they wear. They're just at an age where they can express having preferences, and sometimes they stubbornly want to make a decision for themselves. It's a power dynamic, they have no power and they often act out in an attempt to express some power.
A 2-3 year old might learn that they can gain some power by saying they want to wear girl's clothes instead of boys' clothes, or vice-versa. Kids that age are so undifferentiated that it doesn't mean anything, and the purpose of clothes is often as an outward identifier since you can't always tell girls from boys. But the clothes are irrelevant-the kid is using them as a means of expressing power, not choosing an identity, necessarily. Young kids can choose whatever they want to dress as without it necessarily meaning anything about their gender identity.
This is a really good point. Kids that age are also massive malleable, emotionally and psychologically.
By that I mean that they can be gaslighted something fierce. Even unintentionally. My prime example is how criminal investigators and psychologists quizzing children can not only elicit horrific false clams from the kids, but the kids will believe them to be real.
There was a cat in San Diego named Dale Akiki. He was accused of ridiculous and, frankly, impossible things like having sacrificed an elephant and a giraffe in the basement of a church (I'm not kidding, this was a real case and they testified about this in court).
Obviously, there's no way. 8' ceiling, normal 3' wide door and, seriously, where they hell do you get a giraffe? But the kids were repeatedly questioned by investigators and psychologists. Children will often like to be agreeable. If the parental figures says "A is true" enough, a child who has never witnessed "A" might start repeating it as though he did. And here's the killer -- the kid WILL BELIEVE IT TO BE TRUE.
Those kids in Dale Akiki's case honestly believed he sacrificed elephants and giraffes in the basement because they'd been repeatedly told so by investigators and psychologists at an age when their brains are just barely forming and work very differently than a 25 year old's brain.
I find it almost impossible to believe that a two year old child got to "girl in a boys body" by itself. The liking unicorns and sparkles is entirely a social thing. Pink is not a sign of being a girl, it's a sign of parents saying "Ooh you look so good in pink" or of a terrible twos saying "No!" to blue just because they just learned what "no" means and want to use it a lot, as some two year olds are prone to doing.
When you see a kid who hasn't even hit puberty yet talking about how they are a different gender than their biology, it's almost always due to over-indulgent or munchie parents. If the kid has hit puberty and is claiming this, it's almost always due to over-indulgent parents, or peer pressures in school from hyper-woke fellow students or from hyper-woke teachers.
Then there was the infamous McMartin Preschool case, in which "victims" testified that their teachers could fly and sacrificed horses in a secret cavern under the school.
^ This.
Gender ideology at young ages just reinforces gender stereotypes on children. It reinforces that you shouldn't be "different," and that you need to conform to someone else's notion of what a boy or a girl is. If you don't conform to that, there's something wrong with you. It's introducing anxiety and mental illness where it didn't exist before.
It is such a weird turnaround after several decades of saying that it should be OK for kids to enjoy things that the other sex stereotypically enjoys. Now we're moving back to rigid categories of what boys and girls like. Stupid. Kids go through weird phases. I know several women who are very attractive and feminine who were major tom-boys in elementary school.
If they had grown up today, they'd have people telling them they're trans or "nonbinary."
My daughter is a major tomboy, but as she approaches puberty, she's becoming more interested in more typically feminine things. She still prefers boys' shorts to girls' shorts because boys shorts are more practical and comfortable for riding bikes and whatnot, but she also wanted some new dresses "for dressing up sometimes."
And by the standards of 100 years ago, all girls wear boys clothes these days at least some of the time.
In the 19th century it was not uncommon for boys to be dressed as girls until they were school age.
This is what pisses me off the most about anyone defending this crap. No, my little girls shouldn’t be told that the only way to be a girl is to like pink and dressing up and mermaids. And fuck anyone pushing the goddamn gender boxes.
Let's celebrate mental illness!
Does seem to be the fashion these days.
Why not? The entire democrat party is composed of people who have lost their grip on reality, with many millions of them regularly unable to control their rage.
Reason has written how many articles pushing the so called book bans? Over 10 in the last few months?
At this point it seems they understand these books are not banned but are pushing an agenda.
Most parents would agree that children are to impressionable to be left to their own devices . Excluding a book from the library is not the same as banning it . We do it all the time . As a young boy I sure wished Playboy magazine wasn’t banned from my local library. Creationists want certain books in all schools. Why don’t you advocate for that ?
"Moral panic."
Explain to me again why it's a bad thing to panic* when lunatics in power want to do immoral things to your children?
*Aside from the fact that keeping a cool head is always better in a crisis, but I assume we're using "panic" metaphorically.
"I have a girl brain but a boy body," I Am Jazz reads.
I have a demigod brain but the body of a middle-aged white guy. Where's my book royalties?
^Will settle for the legal ability to abuse chemicals to convert middle-aged white guy body to conform to demigod brain.
I've seen enough Marvel/DC movies to know it never turns out as planned.
It's crazy that they just don't issue radioactive spiders to everyone.
The government should make it mandatory, even though it hasn't undergone extensive testing.
The anti-spider science deniers are always obstructing progress.
Ivermectin doesn't bestow superpowers.
What if it was RADIOACTIVE ivermectin? Like with a huge dose of gamma rays, or maybe even cosmic rays.
I thought that the idea that male brains differed from female brains had been shown by Science (TM) to be a sexist myth (see https://theconversation.com/you-dont-have-a-male-or-female-brain-the-more-brains-scientists-study-the-weaker-the-evidence-for-sex-differences-158005).
Learn to be post-modern. Contradictory ideas are no longer illogical, since we have proven that logic is white male supremacy.
So is urgency, responsibility, integrity, etc..
Uh, I hate to say it, but there is no difference between girl brains and boy brains. Even after puberty sets in and hormones wash over everything, there is not scientifically discernible difference between the two other than learned experiences.
Wanting to be a girl does not mean one has a girl's brain.
Why do you hate to say it?
My own science says there is a difference.
Perhaps Brandy is a progressive zealot who just knows more than the average early childhood teacher, who watches "girls" and "boys" exhibit different preferences day after day without any prompting.
That is not true.
That is not true.
It's a non-sequitur. You might as well be arguing the relative efficacy of male trans-dental electromicide vs. female trans-dental electromicide. The original statement includes, invalid, far-reaching assertions that your evidence doesn't address. Again, transgenderism is a religion. The notion of a gendered brain is oxymoronic in the extreme indistinguishable from a gendered soul. Not even wrong is probably the best descriptor.
"I have a girl skeleton but a boy body, this is called transgender. I was born this way."
"I have a girl liver but a boy body, this is called transgender. I was born this way."
"I have a girl uterus but a boy body, this is called transgender. I was born this way."
"I have a female chimpanzees brain but a male human body, this is called transgender. I was born this way."
"I have a schizophrenic brain in a non-schizophrenic body, this is called transgender. I was born this way."
I don't often get my Progressive on, but these people should, at the very least, be shunned for their destructive social advocacy with a decent case to be made, by actual progressives, for purging them for the crime of burdening everyone else with crippling human thought to accommodate their social and moral deformity. Much the same way we would purge anyone who insisted that all rocks be dated less than 6,000 yrs. old to accommodate the people who believe that.
That is utter nonsense. Make and female brains differ anatomical, just like male and female bodies.
The idea of a blank slate, that the human mind is all software loaded on otherwise similar brains, is completely unscientific. It’s the kind of thing Marxists and progressives believe in order to justify their current generation of bizarro theories (last time, they justified castrating and indoctrinating people for other “scientific” reasons).
There are huge variations between brains and brain function, a lot of them inherited and many of them sex linked.
Except in this case they seem to be claiming that male and female brains are essentially different, but that it doesn't necessarily follow genetic sex.
I don't think they care much for consistency, though. Blank slate when it's convenient and gender-essentialism when that is.
Born this way.
I can choose my gender.
I need surgery to affirm my choice.
Sexual orientation isn't a choice. We can't just "choose to not be gay" you Republican phobe.
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Douglas Murray (gay AF) does an excellent job of deconstructing this 'it's a hardware problem/software problem' extremely well.
I don't think they care much for consistency, though.
^Right there.
Zero shits given about accuracy, consistency, observability, usefulness, etc., etc., etc. It's pure "I have the right to destroy useful social and psychological constructs because, thus far, no part of reality has stopped me." Whether you realize that's how you're framing it or not, it doesn't leave the rest of us living in reality a lot of other options.
But the simple fact is that almost all transgender individuals have a brain that is more consistent with their actual chromosomal sex than with the sex they desire to be
So, these people have a mental illness, but it is not caused by having a brain of the wrong structure for their body.
But the simple fact is that almost all transgender individuals have a brain that is more consistent with their actual chromosomal sex than with the sex they desire to be
Not to defend transgendered individuals one way or the other but, again, junk science stemming from hyperreductionism and a tortured contention. There is no gene that confers hippocampal volume or spacial awareness ability and certainly not one linked exclusively to sex-specific chromosomes. The argument is very much "I have the brain of an attack helicopter in a human's body." or "I have Napoleon's brain in a 21st Century man's body." No. You don't have the brain of an attack helicopter or Napoleon in a human's body. You have, granting you a degree of honesty not deservingly apparent, a cognitive defect that makes you think you have an attack helicopter or Napoleon's brain. Otherwise, you're a just dishonest shit seeking attention and taking up medical and scientific resources that could be used to treat someone who's actually sick. The biology, genetics to neurotransmitters, of attack helicopter brains, Napoleon's brain, or girl brains has fuck all to do with it.
It’s irrelevant whether there is a “gene that confers hippocampal volume”. The fact is that we can perform measurements on brains and categorize them into “female” and “male”. And it’s a fact that those categories do not correlate well with transgenderism.
Progressives: tiny differences in atmospheric composition can create catastrophic climate changes! That's Science!
Also progressives: measurable differences in brain structure and biochemistry that correlate to measurable functional differences are sexist patriarchy! Thus, not Science!
"I have a girl brain."
How could he possibly know? Is this based on some stereotype that girls have different brains?
"I have a girl brain."
Hand me the keys. Driving is far too technical for you.
A few years ago a friend was arguing that someone was "literally a female inside trying to get out". So I asked how that was biologically possible. Do they undergo metamorphosis an emerge as a female butterfly? He said "well I don't mean that literally".
It's a fucking metaphor that the language impaired have taken way too seriously. And I think that's half the problem right there. All the hullabaloo over third person pronouns and all that. It's just language.
I got no problem with adults choosing to undergo a surgical and hormonal transition to a different sex. It's their body, their choice. Just don't make me pay for it through taxes. And I realize there are indeed intersex individuals who were born that way, who wish to be one sex or the other. That's perfectly fine. I actually know one such person. But trans-sex and trans-gender are two different things that the Left has tried to conflate.
But back to brains. Girl brains and boy brains are the same.
No, it’s not a “fucking metaphor”, it is an objectively false statement.
Male and female brains are biologically different, just like male and female bodies are biologically different.
Progressives falsely try to use the existence of intersex individuals to justify transgender surgery when intersex and transgenderism have nothing to do with each other.
And likewise, progressives try to use statements about a tiny number of people who really do have a “girl brain in a body body” to justify medical intervention for large numbers of children and adults that have entirely different mental problems.
Sex reassignment surgery is the wrong treatment for the vast majority of people have gender dysphoria because their gender dysphoria is not caused by a “girl brain in a body body”. (It may be the wrong treatment even for the latter condition, but that’s a separate debate.)
Trans ideology reinforces gender stereotypes. Literally. It's an incredibly sexist and (in many cases) misogynistic political movements to come along in my lifetime. And I was born WAY WAY before most of the Reason staff.
The problem isn't the book. The problem is "woke" public servants who presume to know better than the parents what's good for the child. Rather than inform parents about controversial subject matter to which they propose to expose their children, and then seek the parents' approval, these "woke" teachers simply take it upon themselves to inflict upon children information they know many parents would find objectionable...age inappropriate, offensive, and in some cases, downright obscene!
Not until school administrators are held accountable for the subject matter that is being taught in their classrooms will teachers stick to curricula acceptable to, and approved by parents.
Eventually it covers her first visit to a doctor, who explained to her parents that she was transgender. It also briefly discusses frustrations with being told to use the boys' bathroom in school and to play on the boys' soccer team.
I'm trying to think of a more white, upper middle class set of first world problems. FYI, Russia invaded Ukraine, Mexico, India and China were willing to talk to Lavrov while the rest of the G20 Western leaders harumphed and stood there, arms folded, and Sri Lanka is in total economic collapse.
First World problems; when you don't have barbarians at the gate, you can enjoy the opportunity to question your biology.
I swear you'd think that at least 30% of the people in this country are suddenly "trans" from all the attention it gets and the victimization it spawns. And I can't imagine anything more hip and "cooler" than someone going to a cosmopolitan cocktail party and discussing their trans kids.
I guess the next iPhone release is not exciting enough anymore.
Now that that's out of the way, what the fuck is a Doctor doing telling a kid he's transgender? And why does that require a doctor?
Though I Am Jazz doesn't delve into the psychological or medical treatments that are often part of trans therapy
So it IS a mental condition?
In April, following the passage of a bill in Florida that restricts discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity in public schools, I Am Jazz was yanked from libraries in the School District of Palm Beach County along with Call Me Max, a similar children's book about a trans boy. The book may never achieve the cultural recognition of some other top censorship targets, but the fight over I Am Jazz symbolizes America's trans moral panic.
Fuck off. The trans moral panic was started by trans activists. Not by parents whose children are being fucking pushed into surgery by activist "health care" professionals.
This is "trans moral panic". Oh, a gay man.
When all a journalist does is say the following and he ends up trending in a massive twitter storm that he's a "transphobe", he's not the one "panicking"
"Close to 1 out of every 5 Gen Z so identifies (17%)."
So my guestimate is not too terribly far off. I suspect you are right, this is a transactivist panic and now any and every person who thinks their unhappiness "might" be related to their biological assignment is in vogue.
"The trans moral panic was started by trans activists."
The sane people are always accused of staring a fight, when their actions are in response to some crazy initiative.
The way things are going, Americans will soon have no more time to worry about first world problems.
Hyperinflation, food shortages, oil shortages, and mass unemployment have a spectacular way of focusing the mind on what really matters.
Written by a lesbian:
They will not stop until you're completely erased.
what is this quoted from?
Sorry, forgot the link.
Never interrupt your enemy when (s)he is making a mistake?
He has Napoleon's brain trapped in his body!
Oh, here's the money shot:
You should be, because it's a way of opting back IN to oppression. The goal is to get a gold medal in the oppression olympics, this is the way to do it. "I was a lesbian but that just wasn't getting the likes and retweets it used to..."
To the extent that sexuality is a mental construct, it then has to be considered in the typical human cognitive context, with emotions, fallacies, tribalism, age cohort, and all the other rot. And how society accommodates behavior from the 15-25 set needs to be guided by all the science that reveals just how "confused" young people tend to be.
As the argument goes, they're NOT confused, it is imperative that we remove their breasts, penises, or graft skin off their arm to create a penis. This is a life saving medical intervention.
"I was a lesbian but that just wasn't getting the likes and retweets it used to..."
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The Ellen Page Gambit.
I believe that there is truly something to this.
I think hot lesbians are very cool.
Gay organizations have also largely been taken over by this idiocy. But that’s OK, society has become tolerant enough that we don’t need gay sports organizations, gay social organizations, etc. anymore, and I think most gays and lesbians don’t bother. And for meeting people, people just use dating apps.
St. George-in-retirement syndrome.
Since there's no such thing as "trans child" I have no problem with parents wanting to keep this piece of indoctrination and gaslighting away from their vulnerable kids.
America is a free country. Every adult American should be free to live his or her life as he or she chooses, including making any voluntary bodily modifications.
But it's normal for parents to want to protect their kids from ideas they consider dangerous, particularly if they may cause irreparable harm.
But I would like to see how most progressives would react to a fad where people have their legs or arms removed, in order to attain some self-induced "correct" body.
Come to think of it, we already know how most of them respond to boob jobs.
Such a shame. It could have sold tens of copies.
If someone wants to buy this book for their kid, fine.
I also think people should be able to freely write and express all counter positions and share shelf space and air time side-by-side with this book.
I believe medical professionals should be able to speak out against transitioning without fear of their medical license being revoked. I think scientists should be free to study the impacts of medical transition and seek the truth about their efficacy or damage without fear of retribution via the government revoking funding.
I don't think the federal government should have top down edicts declaring that the proper medical treatment is to instantly "affirm" any confused child.
I also don't think government schools should present only one side of this story either, or push children towards becoming confused themselves.
I don't think government schools should hide information about children from their own parents.
Public schools are local institutions, paid for by local taxes. They should teach what the local community agrees on, leaving out any subjects on which there is the least bit of controversy.
And that’s really easy, since, at their core, all they have to teach is reading, writing, math, civics, economics, and a tiny bit of science.
get rid of public schools. problem solved
Hey, Reason, since we're on "banned books" week or month or whatever the fuck it is, you forgot to list one:
I know, I know, this fucks the narrative that Jerry Falwell is hiding under your bed, but I thought since we're worried about Books that are Banned it's clear and proper that this should be added to the list. Or... or.... OR, is this a reasonable limiting of a very, very dangerous book by a sinister ideologue?
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Republicans want to UNBAN a book, and Vice is on the case!
Just trying to figure out where in the fuck we are on the Conversion Therapy Bad/Conversion Therapy Good oscillation wave.
One of these days someone will have to explain to me why treatment to change your sex is promoted, even for minors, while treatment to change your sexual preferences is illegal.
Well, without endorsing anything, the difference is pretty straightforward.
The overwhelming majority of homosexuals do not desire surgery or psychological treatments. We simply don’t consider our differences to be a disease or medical problem that requires medical intervention. Conversion therapy is historically almost always a medical intervention imposed on patients without their consent.
On the other hand, the defining feature of gender dysmorphia is that people have a psychological need and desire to change their (apparent) biological sex via irreversible medical interventions, such as surgery and hormone treatments.
Conversion therapy is historically almost always a medical intervention imposed on patients without their consent.
Not even remotely true. It's very much akin to saying "Homosexuality is almost always typified by an adult male's attraction to little boys."
But there is some truth to that. Pederasty is by far the dominant form of male homosexual expression worldwide, and always has been. Adult men attracted to other adult men are the outliers of the male homophile world.
The ven diagram with "identifies as pansexual and transgender" is a circle completely contained within the "batshit crazy" circle.
Conversion therapy doesn't involve cutting off penises, so it's obvs bad.
"I have a girl brain but a boy body"
A "boy body" is objectively observable. A "girl brain" is not objectively observable.
This is the same fallacy employed in racial identification: other than the level of melanin in skin cells, there is no physiological difference between black bodies, white bodies, hispanic bodies, sicilian bodies, indian bodies, or any other "bodies".
A “girl brain” is objectively observable: it’s the result of genetics and epigenetics. It’s just that almost nobody with gender dysphoria actually has a “girl brain”.
The recent massive rise in adolescent girls wanting to be boys obviously can’t be explained by brain differences; it can only be explained as a psychological and a social phenomenon.
it's peer contagion, plain and simple. Everyone knows it.
A “girl brain” is objectively observable: it’s the result of genetics and epigenetics.
WTHF? You can *see* epigenetics?
That's why there are absolutely no variation in disease impacts across those "artificial constructs" of body types, right?
And absolutely no difference in disease (and psychology) between "men" and "women".
That's why there are absolutely no variation in disease impacts across those "artificial constructs" of body types, right?
You're arguing against a not false premise from a false premise. And the false premise is so vile and pervasive it's making everyone stupider. I suffer no allergies, don't have asthma, and no eczema. Of my 3 sons, one has allergies and asthma, another has eczema. Do the two with asthma/eczema have Mom's girl genes? Does the one without have none of Mom's girl genes?
Again, it's a retarded, oxymoronic, hyper-reductionist pseudo-science being argued in support of a religious belief about the gender of souls. Even if there were girl brains and boy brains in the absence of girl bodies and boy bodies, there's zero evidence that genital reconstruction and hormone therapy converts the brain one way or the other. But, then, as I said, the goal isn't to convert the girl brain to a boy brain or the body to match the brain, the goal is to disinform people and erode their sense of self and their understanding of the world. You, all of you, can't understand or conceptualize boy bodies and girl bodies, your eyes lie, rely on biologists with degrees and PET scanners to understand and conceptualize for you.
So... why don't you just change the name of the magazine to "Degeneracy"?
This book is not banned.
Books in school libraries should be and always have been, curated to be age appropriate for the students.
The book is readily available for sale on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and pretty much everywhere else.
Every single book is not available in ANY library. There is ALWAYS a decision of whether to provide shelf space to a particular book. Ultimately the people who own the school, the library or the bookstore get to decide what gets put on their shelf.
In the case of schools and libraries those people are called TAXPAYERS. In the case of Amazon it is ultimately Joe Bezos. If you want to decide what goes on the shelf buy a bookstore. You are free to put as many copies of I AM JAZZ and JONNY F#CKS A GOAT on the self as you like.
Liberals are conflating school book bans with public bans on purpose. It's dishonest.
That book cover illustration is awfully generous to Jazz. Even as a younger child he didn't look that feminine and now he's been eating his unhappiness and is getting about as wide as he is tall.
Sorry but banning books from your school library does equate to banning a book from a public library. Parents have a right to control what their children are taught, and using the inflammatory words 'Book Banning' in the title is misleading at best.
What’s wrong Reason? All your crypto shilling is going sideways and exposed as the scam it’s always been. Now you’re shilling preschool hormones for the pharmaceutical industry.
This is exactly why people believe that Libertarians are moral relativists.
Not wanting your kid to become brainwashed into Jazz insanity is a good thing.
Book skips over all the best parts, like dilation, puberty blockers giving him microdick and jeopardizing his ability to get surgery, morbid obesity, the scarring, Munchausen syndrome by proxy from the mother who got 3 sons but wanted a daughter, etc.
I also don't want kids reading psuedoscientific nonsense that there is such a thing as a boy or girl brain. There's XY, XX, and a couple mutations in-between that typically result in rather debilitating injuries and poor quality of life (infertility, hermaphroditism, shorter life span, etc). Are you pants on fire flaming and XY? Congratulations, you're still a man no matter how girly you feel.
Gender IS a social construct. That's why transgenderism isn't real. There are only men and women. You can behave, perform, display however you like but that has nothing to do with biological sex.
Should gender-affirming medical treatment be allowed for fetuses?
I'm sure they're working on it.
Probably going to have to figure out where the ethical lines are on gene editing...
I can only imagine that if some 13-yr.-old wrote a book titled "I Have A Rock That's Only 6,000 Years Old", and Florida passed a bill banning it and any discussion of it from K-6 education, *Reason* (drink) would unleash a torrent of articles against the "Don't say 'Creationism'" bill and in defense of parents' rights to surgically conform their children's thinking to the reality of a 6,000 yr. old planet.
Given the latest prognostications from people who are Smarter than I, Creationism not only can be taught in school, but should be.
Scott, you're sad and pathetic dude. Seek help.
Jazz told the world that she had been expressing gender dysphoria (when someone strongly identifies with the opposite gender of their assigned sex) since she could talk, stating, "I have a girl brain in a boy's body."
Which is impossible. How could a toddler even consider that their body is not correct unless they have been told such. The sex organs are so undeveloped that there is no visible difference except when they are completely naked, which is uncommon in the age of disposable diapirs.
Sounds like a kid that was groomed from birth. Shame on you for promoting this Shackford.
"I have a girl brain in a boy's body."
And how exactly did he know how a girl thinks and feels?
"The sex organs are so undeveloped that there is no visible difference"
Actually, it's pretty easy to tell girls and boys apart from behind. Their butts are differently shaped from a very early age.
And how exactly did he know how a girl thinks and feels?
Exactly this. Every trans person is delusional.
That's a good question. No one has any idea what it's like to have a different body from the one they have. This idea that people can know that they feel like something that they aren't is without any possible basis. Your body is your body. There's nothing wrong or right about that, it's just what is.
And that body is either male or female, and you should be accepted as such regardless of how well you conform to certain sexist expectations of what a man or woman ought to be. The Guys need all the Guys in the Guys' tent, and the Gals need to accept all women.
The sex organs are so undeveloped that there is no visible difference except when they are completely naked, which is uncommon in the age of disposable diapirs.
Even then, the distinction is no more sexual than hair color, birth marks, or other 'deviation within normal parameters'... except to the parents.
A 2 yr. old with a vagina has less of a conceptualization of menstruation, sex, childbirth, and menopause than pretty much anyone over the age of about 18. Unless, of course, retard everyone over the age of 20's thinking to the hormonal, 14 yr. old male's QC checklist of "Has vagina?"
Hmmm, not for banning books or anything. But not carrying a book like this for 3rd grader consumption in a public school does not amount to a "ban". Don't the parents get to weigh in on stuff like this? If a parent does not have a problem with their 9 year old reading this book they can simply pick it up Amazon.
Mentally sick perverts and pedophiles should be relegated to the mental asylum and there alone. This book REFLECTS BOTH OF THOSE ABOMINATIONS!
Too bad we can't post memes in comments. This article is perfect for Inigo Montoya's:
Banned.
That Word Does Not Mean
What You Think It Means