Obi-Wan Kenobi and the Era of Cultural Stagflation
On streaming and the big screen, we're paying more for less, even as new ideas seem few and far between.

Watching the finale to Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+ this week, with its grating mix of canned nostalgia and self-defeating grandiosity, I was reminded of New York Times columnist Ross Douthat's argument that America has entered an age of decadence, effectively squandering its cultural and social inheritance.
But in some ways what we're seeing now is something more than mere decadence. And, given the political-economic moment we're in, I couldn't help but think of the famous remark by former British Chancellor of the Exchequer Iain Macleod, who in 1965 told Parliament: "We now have the worst of both worlds, not just inflation on the one side or stagnation on the other, but both of them together. We have a sort of 'stagflation' situation."
Forget, for a moment, American politics and our struggling economy: We live in an era of cultural stagflation.
The stagnation is perhaps the more obvious of the mix. It's not just that Obi-Wan Kenobi is the latest spinoff of Star Wars, a franchise that has reigned over Hollywood since the late 1970s. It's that over the last month, the feature film business has been dominated by sequels and spinoffs to movies from the 1980s and 1990s: Top Gun: Maverick, a follow-up to a 1985 hit; Jurassic World Dominion, a haphazard sequel to a 1993 dino-blockbuster; and Lightyear, which rather awkwardly harkens back to its 1995 source material, Toy Story. And this year, the biggest hits have come from familiar properties—not just sequels, but franchises and characters and universes that have been camping out in the popular consciousness for decades.
Of this quartet, only Maverick was a real creative success. Lightyear, which took a likable Toy Story toy and built out a bland in-universe sci-fi movie for him, was a ho-hum Pixar brand expansion; it's tolerable, but far from the lofty heights of its predecessors. Jurassic World Dominion practically begged audiences to cheer for familiar characters and bad remixes of scenes the original delivered much better. Obi-Wan Kenobi isn't quite a full-fledged disaster, but it introduces needless plot holes into the Star Wars legend, and its best scene is just a mirror of another scene fans have already seen in cartoon form. It's the same—but worse.
Meanwhile, these sorts of legacy productions are growing bigger, longer, more self-consciously epic. The most recent Batman movie—a reboot of a feature film franchise that started in 1989, based on a comic book character from 1939—was not only grimmer and more frustratingly self-important than its predecessors, it was also the longest Batman film to date, at nearly three hours long. Similarly, Jurassic World Dominion managed to be the worst entry in the franchise, and also the longest. Lightyear is only a few minutes longer than previous Toy Story films, but it's a far worse movie. The original Star Wars was just a hair over two hours long, and neither of its two immediate sequels exceeded two hours and fifteen minutes. Obi-Wan Kenobi expanded over six nearly-hour-long chapters, and wasn't as memorable or effective as any of its source material.
Meanwhile, the price of a movie ticket has risen in recent years (even before the pandemic) to make up for dwindling crowds, and streaming services have slowly increased their prices, even as the number of services has proliferated, leaving anyone trying to keep up paying for more.
What we have then, is both stagnation and inflation. It's the worst of both worlds. And it portends a sort of grim future for post-pandemic Hollywood.
Yes, movie studios have finally figured out how to produce big hits again, but only by digging into the past to cash out the brand value of existing properties: Last year's big box office winner, Spider-Man: No Way Home, remixed franchise history and brought audiences to theaters mostly by reminding them how much they liked the last 20 years of Spider-Man movies. Obi-Wan Kenobi serves up another taste of the series' most iconic character, Darth Vader, but because the series' timeline is stuck with events that have already been rendered in the movies, it can't do much except march out Vader, one more time, and hope you cheer.
That may work for now. But for how long? Vader's charisma has always been predicated in large part on his darkness and mystery; he appeared for only eight minutes in the original Star Wars. There was a scarcity to the character that left viewers wanting more. Well, now we have it. Yet each time he appears on screen, he becomes less thrilling, and less special, to behold. Vader represents a kind of brand capital for the Star Wars franchise, and Disney is wantonly spending it down.
That is, of course, what happens during an era of economic stagflation, and why voters tend to find it so upsetting when it happens in the larger economy. No one likes paying more and more but getting less and less in return even as productive new ideas seem few and far between. Elections are lost when that happens. We'll see what happens to Hollywood.
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Thought about watching it, but then was pre-emptively told how racist the fans were GOING TO BE before any episodes even aired. Apparently that is an approach to stir up interest/clicks/news.
So ill have to pass. Getting preached to about how racist I am probably going to be from companies that purposely hide/cover up black actors when they advertise to China so they can maximize their profit...ya thats a hard no thanks.
Think about that--the Rat deliberately cast a character because they wanted to jerk themselves off to "toxic fans" calling the actress a nigger.
In "Days of Rage," Bryan Burrough talked about how the mostly effete, upper middle-class Weather Underground members worshipped black people as fetish objects to the point of caricature. Their ideological descendants sure seem to have picked that ball up and run with it right in to the tunnel, Bo Jackson style.
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On streaming and the big screen, we're paying more for less, even as new ideas seem few and far between.
What you mean ‘we,’ kemosabe? Stop consuming the tippy top of popular media drek and get into the long tail. There is an endless supply of creative ideas down there.
I've read multiple articles about this idea recently, from people who exclusively guzzle popularest culture and ignore anything else. You're making a choice to stagnate. Stop supporting it. I guess it's supposedly your job, but you could highlight lesser-known content that's actually good instead of telling us the bland slop designed appeal to as many people as popular is indeed bland.
There is no cultural stagflation, other than inside mega-corps like Disney. They're almost entirely off my radar at this point, and I couldn't be happier.
To put a pin on this: I have not watched Obi-Wan Kenobi, or Top Gun: Maverick, or Jurassic World Dominion, or Lightyear, and have no plans to see any of them. Heck, I didn't even waste my time seeing The Rise of Skywalker a few years ago, because I'd already learned my lesson back then. The last new Disney film I watched was Avengers: Endgame, and that was only because I needed closure from Avengers: Infinity War.
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I could have written this comment.
Though, I would have probably added all the new Star Trek stuff also: Picard / Discovery / whatever.
Oh yes, agreed. I was only addressing what was mentioned in the article, but I've abandoned Star Trek as well.
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Seconded, but I also think people have short memories. I remember the summer movies of the 80s and 90s. There were as many terrible ones as there were gems. In fact, I think the lower bar might have risen a little. The worst of the Marvel movies are better than the worst dumb action movies of the past. The connectedness helps with that, you have characters who are great supporting members of teamups, even though their solo films weren't great.
You have awful taste.
Enjoy your corporated slop
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> The worst of the Marvel movies are better than the worst dumb action movies of the past.
This is a matter of opinion, and I won't refute it.
But I don't like comic books. I don't like Star Wars any more -- and note the "Star Wars, a franchise that has reigned over Hollywood since the late 1970s" comment is horseshit, there were three movies in the late 70s to mid 80s, then nothing more. The "new" star wars always, forever, many times every year is a 21st century thing. Especially a post Disney thing, because Disney milks franchises dry.
Point being, I haven't seen a movie in the theaters in many, many, many years. I want something that speaks to an American, has jokes and witty dialog, pokes at modern tropes and social trends, and tells a great story. Occasionally, a new story, or a new interpretation.
Hollywood now just makes things as generic as possible so they can dub it easily with no idiomatic issues and sell it overseas, which means limiting all of that creative and cultural stuff and always using a "franchise" to back it. It is not culture. At least not my culture. Especially now that they're all quota'd, preachy, generically bland shite.
I'm no longer their demographic. I'll take silly, ephemeral, creative, and fun over whatever makes comic books movies "better" any day.
I don't know, as a cultural phenomenon Star Wars has ruled over Hollywood since the 80s and it fundamentally changed how non-box office rights and revenues were seen by studios too.
That said, you're correct that the movie pre-sequel and the latest reboot were various degrees of not good overall.
You need to watch “The Mandalorian”
It is everything Star Wars should have been.
A space western, with a sub plot about real fatherhood.
And baby Yoda is so cute!
Then you want to see Top Gun Maverick perhaps? And it needs to be seen in the theater.
Did I miss something? Did you tell us exactly where you're consuming this endless supply of creative ideas? Where is this long tail?
The long tail is in niche things you don't hear about because they're not aimed at the mass market.
Pretty much by definition if he were to list those things off, a lot of them would be things you wouldn't agree are high quality.
But, if you went out looking, you could find stuff more narrowly tailored to your tastes, rather than passively consumed the corporate dreck that gets rammed down your throat and then complaining that it's dreck.
My wife and I just finished watching the second season of a series called Undone, for example, that I thought was spectacularly good, but certainly wouldn't be to everyone's taste, which is part of what makes it actually good rather than blandly appealing to the most generic audience possible.
That's what he's talking about.
Thanks, that's exactly it.
Well said.
From his weekly chat on the Roundtable podcast, it sounds like Superman consumes all of big studio entertainment. I can barely sit through these movies; it’s like torture. I can never understand why people feel obliged to keep up with all of it, when it’s so boring and repetitive.
Now you know how everyone who reads your comments feel.
This is why the real action is elsewhere right now. Millions and millions of English speakers are becoming addicted to Japanese Anime, Korean Dramas, Turkish soaps, Russian kids shows, French and Belgian comics, Nollywood and Bollywood.
There's a freshness and a lack of contempt for the audience elsewhere.
Don't forget Manga...from what I understand they are absolutely obliterating the American comic book industry.
That's because american comic books have been trapped in stagnation for decades. Characters aren't allowed to age. They aren't allowed to change (at least not for long). Because they aren't characters any more, they're trademarks.
Most of the good stuff from Marvel was written in the 60s, because the characters weren't flanderized versions of themselves. X-Men is good through the 80s, because the 60s X-Men sucked, so Claremont was given a pretty free hand with them. But once Claremont was out, stagnation. And it gets dumber the longer it goes on.
Not true, you should see the new Marvel Thor. It's Miles Morales, famous for race swapping into Spiderman. It's as terrible and devoid of creativity as you'd think.
This is probably worse because this is one of the few times they found a way to successfully race swap a character and get him accepted but then they peddle that away to shore up their flagging sales elsewhere.
Don't be fooled by the 'This changes everything' bs. It'll last for a year or three until it's retconned, quietly or otherwise.
Like Wanda Maximoff wiping out most of the world's mutants, there'll be no effect of any crazy change they make in less than a decade.
Except Miles Morales was wonderfully creative and a fun flick at the same time.
The difference is, Disney MCU now has some need to take a dump on existing characters and to declare itself Brave and diverse by making an inexperienced woman the best and smartest and bravest and strongest hero who has to save the titular male character, who is actually weak and dumb and incompetent.
A one off would be an anomaly, but it is pervasive in the Disney properties.
Looking, Hawkeye, Disney Star Wars with Rey... I just watched the new Dr strange multiverse thing. Wanda is unstoppably powerful, the central character is a young girl who doesn't understand her power (and learns to control her power by a simple "believe in yourself" admonition), they travel to a universe where they genderswap the main MCU heros and all the male heroes are killed instantly by Wanda, but the women go toe to toe with her for an extended fight, despite the lack of any magical powers.
As a one-off it is bad writing in an attempt to subvert expectations. But when it is every single property? It is a sign of a cultural disconnect in the creative community.
The Spanish and Korean shows I've watched on Netflix, German too, are quite good.
Especially Hellbound and The Barrier
The flood of westerns from the end of WW II to the mid-1960s was pretty much a bunch of copycats.
You wouldn't go to the bar, order some well drinks, get charged 17 bucks a piece, and then bemoan the death of the cocktail, right?
These are are films and shows made for an audience of roughly "everyone in the world," and as such they're so broad you could watch them in a language you don't speak and without subtitles and still follow 90% of what's happening. They're special effects propped up by barely passable acting and some vague, blandly Manichean plot points.
Also, if you're the target audience for Lightyear (2022), do you really care that Toy Story (1995) came out nearly two decades before you were born and reached "loftier heights"? Because let's not forget, most of these franchises are geared toward kids. The action figures and theme park rides should have been a big clue. (Then again, it would be pretty awesome to have action figures for adult films: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0PtiMAie3k)
So, less like my bar analogy, perhaps this is all more like going to McDonald's, getting annoyed that half the menu is variations on "burger with fries," ordering a happy meal, and then declaring that dining culture is in serious decline.
I hope this doesn't sound cruel or anything. I admire your work and I think you have a real knack for communicating and explaining complex policies and issues in understandable, thoughtful ways. I've been reading you for years and am a regular listener of the podcast, but I'm sort of baffled and confused when you dip into pop culture, tbh.
Agree with respect to these are films made for the broadest swath of people under the broadest set of conditions. When you do that, you have to "water it down" for lack of a better term. It has to have a little bit of everything, but yet nothing can be too much. Its kind of like domestic beer. The reason why those lack flavor compared to craft beers is because they are catering to a much larger audience. hence if they go to heavy with this hop or barley or what have you, they might turn a segment of their audience off. Case in point: generally I find that the bigger geographical area that a beer is sold to, the more "average" or "ho hum" the flavor of that beer is. Same is true for movies.
The problem is the feedback loop. 70's to 90's comics were targeted for a specific audience but were repurposed to broad based movies with little adjustment. The current comic writers for the legacy orgs are at best writing generic drivel trying to piggyback on the movies which loses the distinctive flair that catches the imagination to be watered down by Hollywood exec's resulting in a downstream race to the bottom. Let's not talk about the replacement of heroics with dinner parties and an obsession with queer theory.
By becoming bland msss media downstream there is no base to support the initial product so ultimately the soil of creativity is salted and irradiated rather than cultivated for future success.
They have come to believe it is the brand that will sell and make the movie great. So they abandoned storytelling. The hero's arc is subverted and they take shortcuts that destroy the drama.
If the original hero had to work through failure and get better to defeat the enemy, this new hero is stronger and better if she doesn't have to struggle or lose or train to get better.
So we get captain Marvel, Rey from star wars (the quintessential Mary Sue), etc...
And even of they don't make that mistake, they seem to feel compelled to crap on the existing characters in order to make their new hero greater.
The problem with Lightyear is that Buzz was the comedy relief sidekick and they tried to turn him into an action hero. It’s like thinking the world wanted Barney Fife to star in a “dirty Harry” film.
Watched Maverick last night in the theater. Was ok. Learned something new. Apparently flares confuse radar-guided missiles.
Don't they generally dump flares and chaff simultaneously?
I'm not sure how this is that different from the past. A few great movies come out every year, plus a lot of crud. In the past it was a a few great original movies and a lot of original crud. Now it's a few great sequels/spinoffs plus a lot of crappy sequels/spinoffs. Either way, the same total amount of worthwhile movies is roughly the same.
I'm also not a big fan of the criticism that a movie's main function is to remind you how good previous movies in the series were. It's more than that. If you see a good story and interesting characters, you want to see more of that. People want to know what happens next, even if it isn't quite as good as the last time. That's a valid aesthetic preference.
But there's a difference between 'what happens next' and intentionally attempting to trigger nostalgia.
It's the reason Empire was even better than Star Wars, but The Force Awakens was drek.
What, your saying taking an entire narrative and tossing it aside so you can retell the same story with a new cast isn't as good as cohesively advancing a new narrative.
I liked The Batman.
Star Wars died the day George Lucas sold it to The Rat. Rogue One is the only halfway decent film of the bunch. Everything else is trash. The Extended Universe is the true Canon.
The prequels are pretty bad too. Not Disney Star Wars bad, but pretty dogone bad.
Lucas bears a lot of culpability in the death of Star Wars. He made those Ewoks movies in the 80s and then the prequel trilogy. Disney has definitely been defiling the Star Wars corpse, though.
If anything, Star Wars should have been allowed to die with dignity after Return of the Jedi (which, to be honest, wasn't that great but whatever) and that any attempt to add onto it has not gone over well for the most part. "Rogue One" was a decent attempt but that's it.
And Solo shot first!
Nice idea, cultural stagflation. Well done!
I guess I’m just an old fart, but I grew up when you watched whatever you could get on an antenna and if there was nothing you liked you read a book. Currently I have Prime because I already have it for the free shipping and Hulu because I like some of their old shows. If what I want to watch is not on those services I just accept it and watch something else or watch nothing. And as my sainted mother would say I’ll survive.
America has been stuck in a cultural rot for 20 years now. Where are the great American novel, movie star, singer, band, athlete, etc for this generation? This is a country that produced some veritable pop culture titans that the entire world swooned over. We'll probably never see another Michael Jackson, Elvis or Jimmy Stewart in our lifetime, but we can't even come up with boy bands any more? Someone like Tom Sellack?
Count me among those who dropped Marvel after Endgame. I just can't watch the same grownup power ranger films for 10-20 years. I'm halfway done with new batman movie and the whole thing is people chewing scenery in foreboding atmosphere.
All we have now are viral moments in tiktok and reboots and sequel. It's sad, really.
It's hard when we are in one of these moments, but it has happened before. Much of the 90s was a waste movie-wise. I don't know if anyone remembers the feeling of anticipating the next Star Wars for 15 years and then having it just suck.
Unfortunately now, there is so much stuff being made for streaming that studios have to go big to get people into the theater, and that means lowering the risk be rehashing successful stuff.
I'm shocked that no one has mentioned A24. There's a studio that is killing it with original ideas.
What's wrong with two hours of endless CGI with some live actors and dialogue thrown in to catch you breath!?
I watch entertainment for the entertainment value. If I want preaching, there are any number of churches around, and they don't cost as much. I detest sex scenes which are irrelevant to the story; if they think inserting a gratuitous gay kiss is going to get my attention, they may wish that they were wrong.
Here is a thought: the 70's & 80's had a number of movies with gratuitous female nudity, probably to drive sales and repeat sales that today everybody blasts. 10-20 years from now will we see the same thing for the gratuitous gay scenes? The ones that don't fit the plot but are shoved in to comply with the narrative, I'd hope so.