Gun Controllers Say They Want 'Reform' but They're Really Pushing Criminalization
The government should loosen laws, reduce conflict between government and the public, and let people defend themselves.

Last week, the House passed a "gun reform" package that's unlikely to pass the Senate. Then, a bipartisan group of senators struck a deal on modest "gun reform" proposals with better prospects. Whatever your take on the merits of these bills, describing legislative proposals for restrictive measures as "reform" is a jarring use of the word—especially after recent national discussions about reducing criminalization as part of a genuine effort to reform the criminal justice system. Real gun reform should involve efforts to minimize conflicts between government enforcers and the public by doing away with intrusive restrictions on people who have done no harm to others.
"Today, we are announcing a commonsense, bipartisan proposal to protect America's children, keep our schools safe, and reduce the threat of violence across our country," 20 U.S. senators from both sides of the aisle trumpeted this week. Details remain sketchy, but the senators referenced red flag laws which let police seize firearms from those considered potential threats, and the inclusion of juvenile records in background checks for gun buyers younger than 21. That was enough for The New York Times to hail the deal as "a significant step toward ending a yearslong impasse over gun reform legislation." CBS News called it a "bipartisan deal to reform U.S. gun laws." The Senate scheme contrasts with the House's "sweeping gun reform package" of restrictions, as per CNN, which everybody concedes has no future.
But "reform" is a weird word for legislation that threatens people with prison and must be enforced by police. Just recently, proposed criminal justice reforms featured reducing penalties for victimless crimes and repealing the death penalty. Reformers suggested legalizing many activities, using alternatives to police where possible, and eliminating qualified immunity protections for police misconduct.
"Decriminalization helps reduce crime," Stephen Averill Sherman of Rice University's Kinder Institute for Urban Research noted in 2020 after the killing of George Floyd by police raised concerns about biased and brutal law enforcement. "In this country, the police actively pursue both users and sellers of hard drugs. Rendering these activities legal would place them under the aegis of non-police institutions, such as health and human services." Reducing the areas of life in which law enforcers intervene, he suggested, reduces conflicts between them and the public.
Unfortunately, criminal justice reform was tainted (temporarily, we can hope), by delusional prosecutors who ignored violence and theft and alienated the public.
Can reform, which means "improve" in common usage, really refer to both more criminalization and less criminalization, to increased policing of the public as well as reduced? That makes no sense when you consider the contradictions between earlier criminal justice reform and current gun "reform." Take the senators' advocacy of "state crisis intervention orders," often termed "red flag laws," for example.
"There are two basic problems with red flag laws that cannot be wished away by consensus-building rhetoric: Predicting violence is much harder than advocates of this approach are usually willing to admit, and trying to overcome that challenge by erring on the side of issuing red flag orders inevitably means that many innocent people will lose their Second Amendment rights, typically for a year and sometimes longer, even though they never would have used a gun to harm anyone," noted Reason's Jacob Sullum.
Rhode Island's chapter of the ACLU agrees, responding in 2018 to a red flag law proposal there with objections to "the breadth of this legislation, its impact on civil liberties, and the precedent it sets for the use of coercive measures against individuals not because they are alleged to have committed any crime, but because somebody believes they might, someday, commit one."
Remember that New York already had a red flag law that "should have" been applied to the Buffalo shooter, Vox's Nicole Narea insists, but wasn't. That prompted officials to tighten the law, magnifying civil liberties dangers without improving the ability to predict who might someday commit a crime.
Proposals to extend background checks into juvenile records are also worrying. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.) warns of "the juvenile criminalization, the expansion of background checks into juvenile records," in comments to The Independent's Eric Michael Garcia. She added that putting cops in schools didn't make them safer but "increased the criminalization of teens in communities like mine."
Civil libertarians have long objected to "the use of arrest to address behavior that would likely be handled in the school by school staff if not for the presence of on-site officers" as put in a 2012 ACLU report. "Americans are experiencing higher rates of arrests and convictions by age 26 than did members of the generations before them," cautioned a 2018 RAND research brief. Now lawmakers want to turn the resulting criminal records into grounds for denying civil liberties.
Worse, there's the near certainty that new laws will be as unevenly enforced as old ones. That means disparate impact on minority communities, as alleged by public defenders in a brief in a gun rights case now before the U.S. Supreme Court. Such laws are also likely to be brandished in our politically polarized country as weapons by partisans against their enemies. Red flag laws, with their virtually nonexistent due process protections, have already been abused to settle personal scores.
So, what does real gun reform look like?
In 2013, after terrorists attacked the Westgate mall in Nairobi, Kenya, then-Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble "said there are really only two choices for protecting open societies from attacks like the one on Westgate mall where so-called 'soft targets' are hit: either create secure perimeters around the locations or allow civilians to carry their own guns to protect themselves," ABC News reported.
So, real reform can mean looser restrictions, empowering people to carry the means of self-defense without running afoul of the law. It also requires recognizing that many politicians proposing tighter gun laws helped to create our violence problem with intrusive pandemic policies that damaged our society.
"Violent crime isn't just rising in the nation's cities," The Wall Street Journal reported last week. "Murder rates across the rural U.S. have soared during the pandemic, data show….As lockdowns took hold, the sequestering of family members inflamed household tensions."
"In order to curb the spread of SARS-CoV-2 quarantines, social isolation, travel restrictions and stay-at-home orders have been adopted," a December 2020 article in the American Journal of Emergency Medicine pointed out. "Quarantine conditions are associated with alcohol abuse, depression, and post-traumatic stress symptoms. Stay-at-home orders may cause a catastrophic milieu for individuals whose lives are plagued by domestic violence."
Letting politicians implement restrictive laws to address social dysfunction their policies created is like hiring a pest control company to eliminate rats it released into your house. Instead of handing them more authority, we should reduce their power in order to relieve social pressures that breed violence.
And we need to revisit criminal justice reform. That doesn't mean the delusional kind that ignored crime, but instead means legalizing victimless activities, holding cops accountable, and focusing on true threats to life, liberty, and property. Real gun reform means loosening laws, reducing opportunities for conflict between government and the public, and empowering people to defend themselves.
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This is the typical politicians response to any issue; pass a new law.
What about all of the existing laws on the subject that go unenforced?
Whether it's gun-control or immigration or any number of things, there are plenty of laws but not enough prosecutions.
What about all of the existing laws on the subject that go unenforced?
They have to justify to voters why they must be reelected to Congress, decade after decade after decade.
This is how someone gets charged with ten different crimes for one single act. Let's pass a law. That one didn't fix it, let's pass another. And another. And another.
Both at the time of the the founding of the constitution and today there are criteria as a prerequisite, before, the right to bear arms.
There was no other reason to mention a well regulated militia in the constitution. “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
Meeting the criteria of “well regulated” whether age, responsibility or competence is demonstrated with a certification, licence or permit.
The militia is well regulated. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Gang bangers in Chicago are “well regulated” eh?
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When all you have is such specious bullshit, we know all you want is to disarm those whom you hate so you can feel safer while realizing your murderous dreams.
Hahaha.
You’re just dying to take another crack at a Jewish Holocaust.
Hahaha.
'well regulated' has been well hashed out legally for many years. You just don't like that it doesn't, and never did, work as a restriction on the right of the people
Your pedantic view is that of the crackpot now. It doesn't even qualify as horse shit because that can be used for manure, while what you defecate is totally useless.
Yes “well regulated” has been hashed out and courts have ruled over and over that firearm ownership should be regulated, and it is regulated dipshit.
Just not very well. The constitution gets it right by describing the regulation criteria as that of a well regulated militia.
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Dipshits like you who reduce an important inalienable right like gun ownership to partisan political bickering are the real problem.
You can’t prove what you claim or refute what you deny.
You’re a Nazi nut job full of hate and disconnected from reality.
It’s so entertaining observing you fuckwits who can’t prove what you claim or refute what you deny invoke Godwin’s law.
Sometimes you squirm first and sometimes you just blurt it out.
Either way the result is the same.
It's not Godwin's Law when someone is an actual Nazi.
I don't get it, you clearly hate Jews and defend what the Nazis did to them, yet you have an issue with being called a Nazi.
Here's a thought. If you don't like being called a Nazi, stop being a Nazi.
I have presented irrefutable evidence that there was no holocaust.
Last time I checked that’s not the same as advocating a fictional story of murder.
You can’t refute what you deny or prove what you claim. I do.
If you want to try, great. When you fail, it’s only because you tried to refute the truth or prove a lie.
No, you've presented evidence to support your desired position to cover for the Nazis. Just because you want to believe you specious position doesn't make your evidence irrefutable, it just makes you a moronic Nazi sympathizer who hates Jews who ignores the mountains and mountains of evidence to the contrary.
You are just a vile Nazi loving POS.
Jews have been hated wherever they go throughout history because of their actions, long before the latest Nazi bogeyman story was created .
I provide evidence of logic and science that nobody has ever refuted. There is no better criteria for truth.
Refute the “lies” that exist in your mind. Do it here and now.
You can’t. You won’t because you’re a bigot.
The following points refute key elements of the holocaust with logic and science. This is because all stories creating the holocaust narrative defy logic and science.
There has been no objective forensic analysis at any supposed site. That means that there is no physical evidence. Any activity that demonstrates and shares evidence to refute the holocaust is a crime in every nation where it allegedly occurred.
The crucial event of the story is the cyanide gassing of millions of Jews. That never happened.
Jews wrote books illustrated with pictures of themselves shirtless dragging gassed bodies from the chambers to cremation ovens.
But cyanide is absorbed through the skin and NOBODY could have survived even a single day of such activity much less collecting reparations into their old age reminiscing about it over a game of checkers.
And so it goes with every bullshit story. The facts prove otherwise.
Let’s not forget another old timey favourite.The story of Babi Yar is a popular lesson in Jewish schools described as the single largest event of the holocaust.
The lesson is that between 30,000 and 100,000 Jews were taken to a ravine in Ukraine where they were killed.
The story is told by one Jewish
survivor, Dina Pronicheva, an actress who testified that she was forced to strip naked and marched to the edge of the ravine. When the firing squad shot, she jumped into the ravine and played dead. After being covered by thousands of bodies and tons of earth she dug herself out, unscathed, when the coast was clear and escaped to tell the story.
She is apparently the only person in history to successfully perform a matrix bullet dodge at a firing squad. The soldier aiming point blank at her never noticed her escape. Never walked a few steps to the edge of the ravine to finish her off.
They were stripped naked to leave no evidence. Naked she had no tools to dig herself out from under 30,000 bodies and tons of dirt.
Only after the deed was done, the nazis realized that so many bullet ridden bodies were evidence. Oops, rookie move. So they brought more Jews and millions of cubic feet of firewood to dig them up, cremate them on gravestones and scatter their ashes in surrounding fields.
There has been no forensic investigation at the site. None of the bullets allegedly burned with the bodies have been recovered. Not one shred of physical evidence of this has ever been found.
There are aerial photographs of the area at the time but they don’t show any evidence of the narrative, no people, no equipment, no firewood, no moved earth, no tracks of any kind.
Simply stating these facts is a crime in Ukraine where the Babi Yar narrative is taught in school
Have you ever heard of the Bletchley park decrypts of the famous German enigma machines? It was credited for turning the tide of the war as allies knew what military actions the Germans were planning.
Only released in the 1980s those translated messages included prison camp information, deaths, transfers and requests for medicines to treat illnesses. The numbers of dead don’t support the holocaust narrative of which there was also no mention of.
Are you willingly performing the mental gymnastics required to believe, as the story goes, that Germans were communicating in code about prison camps while talking plainly about their military actions with their top secret enigma machines?
The numbers of dead from German enigma decrypts does align with Red Cross numbers.
The Red Cross regularly visited all prison camps. It was their job to report the cause of all deaths. They recorded a grand total of 271,000 among all camps for the entire war. It is a matter of record.
Are you performing the feeble mental gymnastics required to believe that the Red Cross were so incompetent that they were completely unaware of 95% or 5,629,000 deaths?
Zyklon B is an off the shelf insecticide used among other places in Prison camps to delouse clothing and bedding to save lives by preventing deadly typhus. The system used for years before the war employed heating to release cyanide gas, fans to circulate the gas and more to exhaust the chambers to make the de loused articles safe to handle.
Pictures of this equipment and the small de lousing buildings with clothing racks still exist in prison camps. But no evidence of any gas delivery system has ever been found or recorded in the shower houses where the bullshit holocaust allegedly occurred. In fact, the story has changed to that they just threw the heat activated pellets onto the cold wet drainless floors in rooms full of people.
Such an inefficient method would have taken too long to kill the required number of Jews. The pellets couldn’t be spread evenly in rooms full of people. The cold wet drainless floors would have delayed the release of cyanide from the pellets that people would have swept away from themselves. Any dead would have released all their bodily fluids and their bodies covering the pellets. Vomit would have been added to the floor prior to entering such a room.
According to Martin Gilbert in his book, Holocaust Journey, the gas chambers at Treblinka utilized carbon monoxide from diesel engines. At the Nuremberg trial of the Nazi war criminals, the American government charged that the Jews were murdered at Treblinka in “steam chambers,” not gas chambers.
Gasoline engine exhaust contains about ten times the carbon monoxide than diesel. Diesel exhaust is relatively safe. Even if the Diesel engines were running at their maximum of 500 ppm, death would take several hours. Far too long to support the narrative.
If Germans had used gas engines, death would have been in a few minutes. But in the holocaust narrative for treblinka diesel was used even though they had plenty of gas for their tanks. Nuremberg still recorded that they were “steam chambers”.
Which stupid lie is more believable? You have to perform some feeble mental gymnastics to buy that.
Jews had been publicly claiming a holocaust of 6 million Jews in various nations no less than 166 times between 1900 and 1945. To raise money and coerce sympathy like the wastes of skin who fake cancer on go fund me pages.
The story of gassing Jews began as British propaganda to turn popular opinion against Germany. It was inspired to draw attention away from Jewish Bolshevik war crimes in Russia because that would work against allied propaganda. It also served global Jewish interests to create undeserved sympathy for Jews who had publicly organized boycotts of Germany to drive Germany to war.
There is a documented letter from the head of British propaganda to the head of the war office recommending that they cease the “gassing Jews“ propaganda because there was no evidence for it and if found out would work against their propaganda efforts.
The only thing the bullshit holocaust narrative has in common with WW2 is that they were both the creation of Jews.
These Jewish leaders are admitting it.. Are they lying?
“We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany”.
David A Brown, national chairman, united Jewish campaign, 1934.
“The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany …holy war against Hitlers people”
Chaim Weismann, the Zionist leader, 8 September 1939, Jewish chronicle.
The Toronto evening telegram of 26 February 1940 quoted rabbi Maurice l. Perlzweig of the world Jewish Congress as telling a Canadian audience that” The world Jewish Congress has been at war with Germany for seven years”.
Rob, I get it. You're a raging anti-Semite. No need to write a thesis about how much of an anti-Semite you are. You have sufficiently demonstrated you are a Nazi sympathizing POS.
I get it.
You deny what you can’t refute.
No, I don't bother to argue with clearly deranged anti-Semitic Nazi sympathizers. You haven't remotely overcome the mountains and mountains of evidence of the Holocaust. You literally grab small kernels of truth and outlier claims to base your whole belief on because you hate Jews.
You have massive work to do to overcome all the info concerning the Holocaust. And using random snippets and claims and speculative conclusions to do so is pathetic.
Go to Auschwitz and refute the scratches and blood stained walls. Go to the Holocaust museum and refute the massive amount of evidence of the Holocaust. Refute the clearly documented and implemented final solution of the Nazis.
But you are such a raging scumbag Nazi sympathizer, you won't. You'll hold on to your completely discredited flay earther type theory to cover for Nazis and blame Jews.
You are literally one of the worst people on this planet to exist. You are vile, repugnant, repulsive, and psychotic. You embody nothing of value.
You can’t refute my statements that you admit are the truth.
Hahaha
The hatred you’re feeling is obvious. Sucks to be you.
Own it.
existing laws on the subject that go unenforced?
Not unenforced, arbitrarily enforced.
Cops aren't expected to know the law. How can they be expected to enforce it?
These laws aren't so much enforced as they're used as a cudgel by District Attorneys to force plea bargains.
That's what happens when they pass law after law after law outlawing the same thing.
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See Hunter Biden.
For more on this:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/texts-reveal-hunter-biden-meltdown-discarded-gun-incident
They have proof he lied on his background form for purchase based on his laptop. Nothing has been done. Why it is all theater.
Please understand. That's the prince you're talking about there. You can't possibly expect little-people laws to apply to the royal family. :^)
I honestly believe this is one of the things they are holding over Biden’s head if he gets out of line. If you look at his past, he was a naive bumbler and political grafter but not a dickhead. Since taking office he has become a total dick, spouting leftist drivel. It is almost like he is afraid to contradict the narrative. Take the incident on Air force one where he was begging the press to ease up on him…like he is afraid what will happen to him if the polls keep going south.
He was always a dickhead, but the spotlight did not linger on him. Now he has all the attention his self-important fragile ego can handle, and it is pretty awesome to watch the resident left-leaning sorts. Things that gop members, trump did that were racist, sexist, indicated a tendency toward preferring sex w/ underage girls, now, as all through biden's career, ignored.
If this was a member of the Trump family, they would be facing 20 years in maximum security.
It honestly makes me wonder about false flags. Democrats really want to push more gun control just as a universal constant. They can't get a single Republican Senator to budge. Then Uvalde happens and suddenly there's 10 Republican's or more eager to look like they're doing something.
I don't really buy it as a conspiracy, but if I saw evidence, I wouldn't immediately dismiss it. The Buffalo shooter's manifesto, for instance, declares that he's a leftist but talks about how he got radicalized online and he talks about how he was able to easily get a scary, illegal gun. There's some weird stuff in there (and it's funny how quickly the media memory-holed the fact that he wrote a manifesto about how much of a lefty he is).
Same thing happened with the LV shooter. The gop seems to know where the one with their voters is so they work around the edges for false appearances of doing something. Just like trump with the bump stock shit. Instead of just coming out and saying that the laws being asked don't work they take the easier way out and just pass something. And I don't think it helps them electoral.
I WISH they'd taken the easy way out and passed something, in the case of bump stocks. What actually happened was a thousand times worse: They took a law that was clearly and unambiguously inapplicable, and subjected it to a regulatory reinterpretation rendering plainly legal ownership of a product a felony.
And the courts let them get away with it.
This is a ticking time bomb, now that this precedent has been set. At any moment the BATF could 'reinterpret' the NFA to declare that AR-15s are machine guns, and demand that anybody who owns one destroy it or become a felon. The fact that the law clearly doesn't mean any such thing would be no defense.
At any moment the BATF could 'reinterpret' the NFA to declare that AR-15s are machine guns, and demand that anybody who owns one destroy it or become a felon.
LOL. Good luck with that.
My barber cuts hair for good, wholesome, salt of the Earth hard working Americans. Think of a Norman Rockwell barbershop.
https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2013/04/norman-rockwell-barbershop-quartet/
I chat with these folks when I get my haircut, and they let it be known that they are proud gun, rifle owners who belong to local gun clubs. Many, including my barber, carry everywhere they go. My barber, a Mensa member, tells me the upcoming civil war will be waged between rural and urban folk. Richmond is notoriously blue country, but 2 miles outside of city limits, it is the land of red country. They tell me they are ready for the scenario you posit. I believe these good folks, who have told me they used to vote Democrat.
They won't go door to door searching people's homes for AR-15s. How it will go down is you'll be left alone until something else happens. Could be a minor thing. Maybe you get pulled over for a traffic stop or any time the officers of the state get to enter your house (domestic dispute, CPS, "I smelled the marijuana from a mile away in my cruiser", etc) and when they find your gun then, your small interaction with the law will turn into 15 years behind bars. It doesn't even matter if the original interaction stuck you with a crime. It's an excuse to hammer you flat if you should ever stick up.
Correct
The manifesto from Buffalo does have things that look maybe a bit sus, but at Uvdale the guy shot his own grandma first and then drove around and crashed his car (I'd previously heard there was a police chase involved in this, but don't see that in the articles a quick search pulled up just now) near the school before shooting it up. So unless I'm missing something, Uvdale sounds like someone who just randomly went off the deep end for whatever reason.
https://people.com/crime/uvalde-school-shooter-shot-his-grandmother-before-driving-to-robb-elementary-school-officials/
Right, there's really nothing to Uvalde other than the fact that it benefitted a Democrat agenda. There's no evidence to suggest it was anything other than a tragic shooting with a terrible police response.
But if evidence came up that Uvalde was some kind of false flag, I'd at least look at it instead of dismissing it outright.
Disagree. The shooter in Uvalde is pathognomonic for America's pathology: broken offspring who come from neglectful, nonexistent male leaders in the household or extended family. Mexicans depicted in the aftermath of the Uvalde tragedy, came to America to work towards a better life. Few of them knew proper Spanish when they spoke to Latino television networks I watched. Just like all immigrants who come to America, they adopt the worst habits of America. We are a sick country and we are seeing our glorious past accelerating away from us. That is on us.
The country may well be on the decline, this is no reason to not consider new facts as they arise. That is the sort of thing better left, pun intended, to the more mainstream and biased political groups.
Hey, they are law-MAKERS! We only pay them to make laws. Those other laws were made by somebody else.
Yes, Tuccille the use of "reform" depends on your point of view. What gun controllers think of as "reform" is going to be much different from you and the Left embraces cognitive dissonance and rejects logic, so expecting internal consistancy from that end of the political spectrum is a fool's errand.
I routinely replace the word "reform" with "change" in anything I read. I find it clarifies things immensely.
That's all "reform" really means: "Change", but with a positive connotation.
We're gonna take the broom of reform and sweep this state clean!
He ain’t lying!
"There are two basic problems with red flag laws that cannot be wished away by consensus-building rhetoric: Predicting violence is much harder than advocates of this approach are usually willing to admit, and trying to overcome that challenge by erring on the side of issuing red flag orders inevitably means that many innocent people will lose their Second Amendment rights, typically for a year and sometimes longer, even though they never would have used a gun to harm anyone,"
When the goal is to disarm as many people as possible, that's a feature not a bug.
Indeed. What goes unmentioned here is that basically all gun control measures are motivated by a belief that gun ownership should not be a right, and should be suppressed to the maximum feasible extent.
Infringing our liberties isn't an unfortunate byproduct of these laws, it's the whole point of them.
Exactly. They know there's always the possibility we turn all those guns on them someday. Crime reform is one excuse to disarm us. J6 is another excuse to red flag (disarm) political opponents. The excuse list is endless.
And growing at an increasing rate.
There is a reason why they wish to disarm the Americans they loathe. Fidel Castro disarmed Cubans after his coup in 1959. His brother rules today with vast impunity. Americans repeatedly mocked me in my teens and early adult years when I told them Cuba could happen to America. Watch the numerous interviews of parents at school board meetings who feared CRT indoctrination by teachers and school boards. The most passionate protestors who took the floor, spoke into the microphone with their broken English, were immigrants who fled totalitarian govts. We know from experience.
I think that when (if) passed, Red Flag Laws should require that authorities post in the front yard of all "red-flagged" homes a sign that proclaims:
The owners of this residence have been subjected to preventive confiscation of their weapons
Please be advised that they should therefore be considered somewhat unbalanced and potentially dangerous, and that this home is safe for you to go into without the owners permission and help yourself to some nice things or the owners daughter.
Spoken like a typically biased zealot progressive. Try wrapping your head around this: you've taken a stance for raping women based on your dislike of guns. You've taken a stance for theft based on your dislike of guns. You've taken a stance for public signage indicating the outcome of a legal process, based on your dislike of guns. You've determined that there is no way a 'red flag' law could be abused, so anybody who had firearms confiscated must have been guilty of something -this thing, of course, being holding views different from yours. You, after the above, no doubt in your small mind, clever diatribe, fail to comprehend that 'unbalanced and dangerous' people who have had the means to defend themselves removed unjustly will not react well to attempted rape or theft. Fuck off, zealot slaver.
Turn up your sarc monitor.
think your meter needs calibration, brother.
goddamn, I hate it when I forget to refresh before posting
It is considered good form to use the sarc tag when one is being sarcastic. As there was not one, and this is neither OBL nor Weinstein, my best guess is non-parody. I take it I was off, it isn't the first time I've been wrong, it won't be the last. The parody, effective, kudos.
The same sort of thing that Dems like to accuse Republicans of doing with voting. Because it's hard to register to vote, right? And get a ballot mailed to you? Disenfranchisement, I say!
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Suggest you direct this to Hunter Biden.
His dad haunts these places under the handle Joe Friday...maybe forward the message through that big guy?
Lol.
He only gets 10%.
He usually posts here while Ron Klain changes his diapers for him.
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This is what people really think.
Not a big fan of NRO but this piece by Kevin Williamson points to the problem of the gun-control crowd; Dem or RINO.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/mcconnell-is-going-the-wrong-way-on-guns/
"If we aren’t dealing with the habitual-criminal issue – the only issue that really matters when it comes to the overwhelming majority of our violent crime — then we aren’t dealing with the problem at all: Republicans would only be selling out law-abiding Americans’ gun rights by inches. And there will be hell to pay for that."
But, of course, a lot of Republican office holders WANT to sell out law-abiding Americans' gun rights by inches. The only real difference between their attitudes towards guns and the Democrats' is that they know being honest about their views would be political suicide, while the Democrats can largely get away with it.
This is always the issues when you value bipartisan compromise on an issue of principle.
Given how intractable the democrats ar win everything, bipartisanship is a horrible thing.
Yep. The goal is to keep violence high while confiscating as many legal guns from law abiding citizens as possible, all while using the fear of the violence from criminals to convince citizens to give them more power.
If you want a bigger example of modern day politics being driven by suburban women, I don't know what it is.
Understand that is the ONLY reason that the Republicans are lined up on the side of this package. It is to remove it as an issue from the kitchen table, so that all that remains is the economy in November.
But I think the Republicans are being misled here. Distinguishing between White Suburban Soccer moms and Affluent White Female Liberals is often tricky. While there is evidence that Trump's loss in 2020 was due to a revolt from the former, that is notoriously difficult to prove, because most White Suburban Soccer Moms aren't activists.
I've heard rumors that Congress Critters were being deluged with calls and letters from WSSMs as soon as Uvalde occurred. I think it is most likely that these were orchestrated campaigns from AWFLs who never would have voted for Republicans in the first place.
And I don't get it as a women's issue. Women are in a category most empowered by the Second Amendment. Imagine having a device that makes it possible to defend yourself irrespective of the physical size and strength of your attacker. Imagine being disproportionately a target of sexual violence in the general population.
You have to see yourself as being tasked with defending you and yours. Many women do not see this as a personal responsibility, so they could give a shit about The Great Equalizer. That is what the government, and hate speech laws are for.
Uvalde should have red-pilled numerous women as to how effective the government is at protecting you and your darlings. I think it did for some, but again, how many of these women who are busy taking care of their family are being drowned out by the AWFLs that often look like them?
If you want a bigger example of modern day politics being driven by suburban women, I don't know what it is.
Look backwards in history and you've got the Temperance Movement which resulted in Prohibition. Women can be a powerful force in politics.
"Distinguishing between White Suburban Soccer moms and Affluent White Female Liberals is often tricky. "
Zip codes. Statisticians, marketers and politicians can use zip codes to reveal all kinds of information about an otherwise anonymous person. Not directly, though. It's a kind of proxy, like tree rings telling us the temperature hundreds of years ago.
The problem is that AWFLs and WSSMs live in the same blocks.
The Horror!
Except it completely destroyed your smug comment.
Politician and marketers use zip codes as proxies, I assure you. And the idea of a white soccer mom and a white wealthy liberal mom living on the same block is so obviously ridiculous, it doesn't bear refutation.
He said blocks, not block. Zip codes are many blocks, sometimes more than one township. And I’m going to need a cite that some of them don’t live in the same zip codes?
in Dallas both chicks can be the same person.
"And the idea of a white soccer mom and a white wealthy liberal mom living on the same block is so obviously ridiculous, it doesn't bear refutation."
Affluent (not Wealthy) white Female liberals look a lot like suburban soccer moms, because many suburban soccer moms are Affluent white female liberals.
They do occupy the same places. Because suburbs are generally places where white women- especially affluent ones- settle when they get to raising families. A very tiny, tiny number of them remain in Tribecca. Go look at the suburbs of Detroit, Phoenix, and DC and you will find suburbs infested with AWFLs.
mtrueman once again confuses his delusions with reality.
"Affluent (not Wealthy) white Female liberals look a lot like suburban soccer moms,"
To the casual observer, maybe. All white people look the same, after all. Their tattoos are a dead giveaway, however.
Evidently you have not come into contact with white women in the past 2 decades. Hint: tattoos are pretty ubiquitous around most non-mormon white women.
More to the point, perhaps, is the underlying classist bigotry which is the foundation for its asinine assertion. The concept the affluent or wealthy people might have tattoos is something that runs against its in-group's beliefs. Like most of its bs, it demonstrates no familiarity with the populations it is discussing, although one hazards a guess that wealthy, entitled and privileged are groups with which it has much in common. Sophists have always made their living among these, and as members of these groups.
You should try getting out more. See the world! It’s a wonderful place!
Doesn't bear refutation, like 99% of your assertions and arguments?
In neighborhoods that aren’t tract housing, home values are frequently not homogeneous. I know of suburban neighborhoods where a $400k home is next door to a $2 million home.
You noticed he is smug, huh? Tremendo comemierda as we say in Spanish.
Are you saying mtrueman is sqrlsy?
Sqrsly is f******* nuts. mtrueman is hubris and being an obnoxious bore wrapped into one
Just asking because one time sqrlsy admitted to eating shit.
Hubris is often one properly wielded pipe wrench away from humility. I think Confucius said that.
It's a kind of proxy, like tree rings telling us the temperature hundreds of years ago.
LOL! Fuck off and die. Using tree rings as a proxy for a thermometer is like using your dick as a proxy for a yardstick. It starts with assumptions about averages but ultimately what you measure is determined by your level of excitement.
Didn't mean to trigger you. NOT!
Triggered? Is that the best you got? I mocked your trolling Science! reference with a valid criticism while simultaneously implying you overestimate the size of your penis as a humorous insult. I am feeling pretty smug about the exchange.
But I will defer to the Judge of Performative Activism as to the scores.
"While there is evidence that Trump's loss in 2020 was due to a revolt from the former"
Yea, Daddy Gov & Mommy Media are totes telling the truth about this.
Significant gains for Trump in every demographic, but the white womyn overcame his almost 20% increase in performance.
Just kinda weird how all those suburban white women waited to vote until 4 am the day after the election...
THEY WERE’T ACTUAL SUITCASES SO THIS HAS ALL BEEN DEBOONKED!
lol A+
Trump had a 20% increase in overall votes, but unfortunately there was a huge turnout. White college educated women broke for Biden by +9%, compared to Clinton's +6% if I recall correctly.
The funny thing about minorities is that even if you do really well with them, a small change in the majority swamps it. shrug.
^^
Yes, yes. The man who couldn't fill a single table tea party with no voter engagement or enthusiasm won because of suburban women and not rampant DNC enclave fraud rubber stamped by the media and endorsed through sham state reviews and cases. Ignore the midnight vote counts after GOP observers were forced out, ignore the unconstitutional rules changes and all the other historic oddities, the statist won and that's all that matters to you.
They still let them drive white Suburbans????
What happens if the Suburban goes out of control???
But whatif asks ENB providing a negative outcome from horrible.
Don't know if anyone else watches Stranger Things or not. It's set in the late 80s when the Dungeons and Dragons scare was happening. I could see that being used as a "red flag." Look at all those nerdy loners playing this evil game! They're the next killers! Red flag anyone who plays D&D!
At the time. Not today.
I'm sure people on the left would love to red flag all D&D players today. They're nerds, they're gamers, they're definitely on the far right. They're mostly white, too.
"They're nerds, they're gamers, they're definitely on the far right."
You need to get out of your circle of gaming friends. This is absolutely, positively, not true.
Gamer gate was based on online gamers abd game companies being conservative misogynist trolls. The left pushed that narrative.
That was my point, yes.
Doh...I totally missed that joke. I'm sorry.
I was thinking more of Critical Role, and a lot of the new wave D&D stuff out there. It is all full of the same woke nonsense as that you see in the rest of the world- except worse, because the RP part of the G encourages the type of larping that deeply intersects with Trans stuff.
At the time is was the Christian conservatives who thought they were worshiping the devil and drinking the blood of babies.
D&D was on the list of things my mother preached at me about.
I will say, so far, Season 4 has been a welcome turnabout from the previous 2 seasons. Decent job folding the 'sassy black girl' trope into a functioning story line. I'm still a little bit bugged about how Steve Harrington continues to get cold-cocked, held at knife point, and attacked by all manner of creatures and the women around him continue to come to his rescue and then charge off into the unknown with a curt "Nah, it'll be fine." I understand the reluctance to cast him as a white knight or flummox him as a white knight with too many charges, but the inversion of his foolhardiness nearly getting him killed with the supposedly more level-headed girls then charging off into what should be certain death as though they were going to the library is too much contortion.
My daughter kept saying "Are they going to die? No, they're a main character. They can't die. Oh no they're gonna die!"
I was certain that Max was going to make it past Vecna, but they really made me question that certainty in that scene. It is rare that they can create that uncertainty for me in films these days.
Like Mad, I am pleased with this season, enough that I can overlook those slight annoyances. If there is one major criticism, it is that they have bit off just too many pieces. They should have converged a couple of the streams more at some point. Instead it is not really clear what the Roadtrip crew in Utah is going to contribute to the story at this point- they really feel like they were pushed to the edge because they had nothing to do with them.
It feels like they are creating all these convoluted reasons not to have characters together. I think that is because they want to focus on El, and because it is hard to tell stories with 18 characters on the screen at once. But, especially in the case of Hopper and Russia, it feels like they just keep throwing twists to keep him out of the picture, even if it isn't really going to impact the main plot line with Vecna.
I don't know, they just threw reality out the window this season. I can buy into kids with telekinetic powers, cross-dimensional monsters and demonic figures controlling people with guilt, but then they expect me to believe that anyone's favorite song was ever "Running up that Hill".
Overall it felt like half a story arc was told purely for episode count. You can see where the rest of the arc generally goes but the separation of the characters makes a bunch of them much less important to the plot/subplots so far with as far as they went in the arc.
Remember that New York already had a red flag law that "should have" been applied to the Buffalo shooter, Vox's Nicole Narea insists, but wasn't.
I mean, she's wrong. He made a flippant comment.
"What are your plans after graduation?" was a class discussion. He joked, "I'd like to be involved in a murder-suicide." Kids say weird shit. And even though this was a random one-off, he still was immediately referred to psychological evaluation, the psych eval CLEARED HIM (this was in the kid's manifesto) so police didn't follow up. Because psychological examinations are going to be terrible as predictors for future violence, utterly useless trash. They should throw darts at random names in the phone book, they'd have a better hit rate.
Of course, Vox is going to pretend like the red flag law should have applied because there's an agenda there. It's motivated reasoning. They're trying to point out that red flag laws aren't good enough, and they want them applied even more broadly and universally so they can disarm everyone. They didn't actually look properly at the individual case, they just saw that he had one incident leading to police investigating him, and assumed that meant it was a fuck-up. But it probably wasn't because you can't punish every juvenile who says something weird. That's basically using the power of the cool kids to punish the not-cool kids.
Absolutely. When I was a kid, we were doing spanish homework in study hour, and we got a little out of control joking around. One of my "Use these words in a spanish sentence" assignments had joking stuff about the president's head on a pike. I was referred to the guidance counselor, where I was informed that this type of joking was not appropriate at school. I learned my lesson and it never came up again.
The only way Red Flag laws work is if that immediately disqualified me from owning guns- even though I was never going to go on a shooting rampage. Because how can you tell between me- a high school sophomore who got carried away on homework and learned the boundaries of decency- from a real shooter who learned to keep his mouth shut to stay off the radar?
You can't. You can't tell the difference.
"he still was immediately referred to psychological evaluation, the psych eval CLEARED HIM (this was in the kid's manifesto) so police didn't follow up"
The FBI did. Figured there was enough to work with there.
Red flag laws should have caught his covid and environmental delusions.
Not really. But the kid seemingly fell for every leftist end of the world story out there.
"Because psychological examinations are going to be terrible as predictors for future violence, utterly useless trash."
Doesn't that depend how thorough they are? If it's just a pro forma box ticking exercise, I agree. But a proper exam should be able to reveal some problems if they exist. Maybe it's too much to expect accurate predictions of future violence, but it should be possible to detect early warning signs. The problem is that more thorough screening and treatments will require more resources and money. I've said it half seriously, half jokingly, convert half the prisons in the country to hospitals.
But a proper exam should be able to reveal some problems if they exist
But he wasn't crazy. Most shooters aren't actually insane by any definition. They're just people who had the potential to perform violence at some point in the future, but that also applies to the vast majority of the population.
Basically, all the indicators for a mass shooter or serial killer are backward-facing. You can identify what the indicators were after the fact, but because they're broad, they apply to lots more people than just those who will sometime commit violence.
I played Counter-Strike in high school, a video game about terrorists versus Counter terrorists in a variety of settings. I know a guy who was designing a map based on our high school. It was just a fun setting for potentially shooting terrorists in an environment he could physically visit. I don't think he ever finished designing it, he got bored with the mechanics of actually designing the map. He wasn't prone to violence, he never wanted to shoot up anything.
But if, for some reason, he HAD turned out to be a potentially school shooter, that would have been a post-hoc clue that he fantasized about shooting the place up. By itself it's utterly meaningless-you actually need the confirmation of the person actually being violent at the end of it for the clues to make sense.
"But he wasn't crazy. "
He doesn't have to be. A thorough exam can still uncover issues that can be addressed before they lead to more serious maladjustment.
"But if, for some reason, he HAD turned out to be a potentially school shooter, that would have been a post-hoc clue that he fantasized about shooting the place up. "
Sure, and the fact he HADN'T means that his life took a positive and productive path. Not everyone is so lucky, and the unlucky can still benefit from some mental health treatment, even if they are unlikely to end up as mass shooters. Maybe it will stem a life of alcoholism and depression. Not an outcome to sneeze at.
"He doesn't have to be. A thorough exam can still uncover issues that can be addressed before they lead to more serious maladjustment."
You keep making these assertions. This is what lefties always do. They assert these things that are not proven at all.
What instead will happen is that people who are not properly obsequious will be "Flagged" and lose their rights. And then real bad guys who are quick to learn how to stay off the radar get through the system.
Psychologists aren't mind readers, no matter how much you want to assert it.
"Psychologists aren't mind readers,"
You don't need mind readers. You need money, resources and dedicated professionals. No different from any important endeavor.
"Flagged" and lose their rights. And then real bad guys who are quick to learn how to stay off the radar get through the system. "
Again, obsessing about guns or their lack isn't going to solve anything. It's a divisive cultural issue that unscrupulous politicians can exploit. It doesn't touch on a solution underlying problems that society faces. The idea that a profound societal malaise can be magicked away by more guns or fewer is ludicrous and wrong.
The idea that a profound societal malaise can be magicked away by more guns or fewer is ludicrous and wrong.
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Yes, clearly we just need 'really good professionals' to diagnose everybody in the country.
"Yes, clearly we just need 'really good professionals' to diagnose everybody in the country."
Either that or a really good time machine to take us back to the days when common sense and moral fiber meant something.
"You need money, resources and dedicated professionals. No different from any important endeavor."
So said mtrueman without an ounce of evidence. Should we expect evidence? Nah...As we all know, throw money, resources and dedicated professionals at any problem- especially mental health- we can end any problem. That's how we got rid of suicide, and homelessness and made our schools the envy of the world. Just money, resources and dedicated professionals all the way down.
"The idea that a profound societal malaise can be magicked away by more guns or fewer is ludicrous and wrong."
So vague platitudes and unsupported assertions is all you got. Cute.
"So vague platitudes and unsupported assertions is all you got."
I'm happy with what I've got. It's more than you have.
They should throw darts at random names in the phone book, they'd have a better hit rate.
Heh, is this a veiled reference to The Jerk?
He hates these cans!
"Quarantine conditions are associated with alcohol abuse, depression, and post-traumatic stress symptoms. Stay-at-home orders may cause a catastrophic milieu for individuals whose lives are plagued by domestic violence."
I don't see how making more guns more easily available to more people is going to make the above situation any better.
I don't see how making more guns more easily available to more people is going to make the above situation any better.
Because then the abused are more likely to have weapons they can use in self defense. The physical strength of the person matters less if the potential victim is armed.
You're sure that putting guns into the hands of depressed drunks is going to solve society's problems? I think you haven't thought this through.
You’re right. We should just try Marxism, expecting different results.
Today's Marxist societies seem to have a more positive and optimistic view of the future. Better on the mental health issue. My Sri Lankan Marxist acquaintance tells me that Vietnam is the country to watch as the purest Marxism on the planet today. People in capitalist societies, on the other hand, worry that their children will live poorer, less secure lives than their parents have.
I always organize society around anecdotal stories from randos on the internet focused on the feelz of strangers thousands of miles away.
Not a random stranger but a personal acquaintance with decades long experience in communist circles. His enthusiasm for Vietnam may have been influenced by his disillusionment with China with its close cooperation with the Hong Kong business community and related career setbacks.
"of strangers thousands of miles away."
Yes, Vietnam is a country thousands of miles away. Deal with it.
I thought Marxism had never really been tried.
The Interstate Highway System has been around for some time now. High time you familiarize yourself with it.
Does the autobahn count?
Most definitely. It was Kraftwerk's first hit and charted on both sides of the Atlantic. I was interested to learn recently that the song's lyricist was also the designer of the album cover, a good friend of the band, and a student of Joseph Beuys, also from Dusseldorf, and a favorite artist of mine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6GENFXmWvM
(enthusiastic live version from recent concert in Seoul)
Well, then I guess it’s true: National Socialism really was socialism. And Hitler was a socialist, too.
^-----Mic Drop
"And Hitler was a socialist, too."
Not according to diarist Joseph Goebbels who was a genuine socialist and knew Hitler well. Hitler took little interest in economics can probably be best characterized as a reactionary nationalist.
He loved and enthusiastically supported their interstate highway system. You said that’s Marxism.
Hitler was a car enthusiast. Any true Marxist prefers buses or trains and sometimes bicycles.
Oh, I know how the Marxists love freight cars.
"I know how the Marxists love freight cars."
Not really. Each lunar new year sees the largest movement of humanity on the planet. This is the year of the tiger, by the way, a year of great change. Freight cars are used to transport people back to their hometowns in the sticks, but nobody loves the experience, I assure you.
Not a random stranger but a personal acquaintance with decades long experience in communist circles.
Oh, well, a N of 1 with a p value of 0.8491, bulletproof dude. Give your mentor, Rochelle Walensky our best, comemierda
If you have more than one personal acquaintance with decades long experience in communist circles, I urge you to share your ideas with us.
Mtrueman’s favorite ideas are the ones he already has.
Don’t know why you guys feed this collectivist loving ass wipe.
Because sinophile commies like mtrueman always love spouting their platitudes and "common sense" like so many cookie fortunes. revealing them for their usefulness is always extremely useful for lurkers.
Because sinophile commies like mtrueman always love spouting their platitudes and "common sense" like so many cookie fortunes. revealing them for their usefulness is always extremely useful for lurkers.
agreed. Im still new here and getting an idea of who is sincere and who is a troll like mtrueman
Who is advocating to make more guns more easily available to more people, trueman?
Not me. I don't think the answer lies in making gun ownership easier or more ubiquitous. I look at it as a problem of mental health, and guns, whether more or fewer, are not the answer. Guns are largely irrelevant to the issue.
Unenforceable pipe dream.
Focus on mental health that is.
LMAO. Your comments are precisely what makes us think about your poor mental health, that, or the pharmacies in your locale have run out of Haldol because of your treatment resistant psychosis
Quit it, he has a stressful job and this is the only time they let him talk to the real world before he is ushered out to to the Oval Office or some teleprompter.
"Unenforceable pipe dream."
I tend to agree. More guns, fewer guns, the US is on a downward trajectory and guns or their lack won't change that. A country like Vietnam however is a place where hope lives and people look forward to a brighter future. The US was once such a place, and the founding fathers had such confidence in the common sense and moral fiber of the citizenry that they saw no problem with a heavily armed populace.
Mental health and red flag laws are inventions of gun advocates which clearly won't work - see Buffalo for example - to escape the obvious problem - too easy access to guns in America. An age limit on certain guns would have caused Parkman Douglas and Robb Elementary to not have happened, making AR-15 like weapons illegal would keep the kill count down, age limits on pistols, background checks, and strong penalties for violating gun laws would all help this massive problem. If more guns were the answer, America would already be The Peaceable Kingdom.
Mental health and red flag laws are inventions of gun advocates
"I'm a goddamn marvel of modern science"
- McMurphy
One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest
"We are as gods and might as well get good at it"
- Kesey's buddy Stewart Brand
Your turn
I’ll never disarm in a country full of authoritarian wannabes like you.
I'll never stop being amused by reality denying true believers like you.
SCOTUS is real.
limits and penalties stop criminals.
too easy access to guns in America.
Unless you're a reporter. Or a male feminist. Or both.
making AR-15 like weapons illegal would keep the kill count down
Oh, sweet Jesus, the Progressive AI known as Joe Friday wants to ignore that the most lethal school shooting in the U.S. was committed with a pistol.
And the less we talk about that Christmas parade, the better.
Driving a red SUV is a red flag
Especially if it didn't start the day red.
The most lethal school murder was committed with explosives.
And the guy in Nice killed more people with a truck in a much smaller crowd than the Vegas shooter.
"An age limit on certain guns would have caused Parkman Douglas and Robb Elementary to not have happened"
This is exactly the Animist illogic infesting the minds of those on the left. They think having an AR-15 is WHY these shootings occurred, and therefore, if the AR-15s didn't exist, they wouldn't have happened. But that is absurd.
In the case of Sandy Hook, the shooter stole the guns from a relative. In the case of Columbine, the shooters were able to get some of their weapons with illegal straw sales. In many other cases, killings happen without AR-style weapons.
Joe has ZERO proof that his remedies would prevent these shootings. And because numerous counter examples are easily discovered, one can only assume he is being disingenuous or guilty of wishful thinking.
All long guns, including AR 15, AK 47, FAL, SCAR, hunting rifles, .22 plinkers, and shotguns account for about 350 homicides a year in the US.
Even if entirely eliminated the impact would be negligible. According to most recent estimate by the NSSF, there are about 20 million AR 15s privately owned in the US. The percentage of them misused for criminal purposes is infinitesimal.
Still my favorite troll 4 bit! So easy to negate
AR-15 are far better than Xanax, Melatonin and Trazodone for sleep hygiene.
>>bipartisan proposal to protect America's children, keep our schools safe, and reduce the threat of violence across our country
closing the conformity factories accomplishes all three without tramping rights.
But "reform" is a weird word for legislation that threatens people with prison and must be enforced by police.
Zoning "reform". Gun "Reform". Drug "Reform".
'Reform? Reform? Aren't things bad enough already?'
Lord Melbourne.
That's actually a good quote...
haha
"Whatever your take on the merits of these bills, describing legislative proposals for restrictive measures as "reform" is a jarring use of the word"
It's typical when politicians talk and it's not new.
When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."
Just give in a little, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more, a little more..............
HELLO Nazism!!!
F'En Nazi's.
Let me quote from this article written by Lois Beckett nine years ago.
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/how-the-gun-control-debate-ignores-black-lives/80445/
There existed a proven program that reduced the criminal homicide rate by over sixty percent, and these people refused to adopt it.
The gun control leadership and spokesholes are arguing in bad faith.
There's a political element to the left's push to push gun control. It's a wedge issue against the right. They know that signing off on gun control is toxic for a politician whose coalition includes Second Amendment voters. Those voters will stay home or vote for someone else. This contrasts with pro-gun control voters who'll mostly vote the same way even if guns aren't an issue.
Right. Many of us have skin in the game and it matters. But I never miss an election.
It's a wedge issue against the right
Not anymore, thanks to Democrats ushering their brownshirts to unleash ANTIFA BLM Anarchy. Despite Youtube deleting the many videos, Americans will never forget what they did from sea to shining sea.
The government should
provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress
and the original
A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; but no person religiously scrupulous shall be compelled to bear arms
I would highly recommend that that training and discipline start earlier than age 18 since we now seem to have people younger than that already using arms in a highly untrained and ill-disciplined manner.
Oh - and the discipline should include such basics as:
Don't kill kids you fucking maggot
Easy
LOL
proposed criminal justice reforms featured reducing penalties for victimless crimes and repealing the death penalty
YES, reduce punishments for victimless crimes. Until someone is HARMED there has been no offense. Sy WHY criminalise non-harimg behaviour? This is stupid, and the root of many harsh sentences wiht no good fruit.
They they go 180* opposite and promote ending the death penalty? This is equally insane, for precisely the oposite rason. When someone is deliberately killed, not only is the victim HARMED but many others whose lives interfaced with the victim's have been harmed... no Daddy to kiss his daughter god night any more, no breadearner so Mum has to go on the dole or find a dirt job to fend off starvation. This is the ULTIMATE harm, taking someone's life. It deserves the ultimate penlalty, but I WILL say safeguards need to be improved for making certain the accused IS guilty. I've read far too often of late how some prosecutor's plea bargain on a different dirtbag produces the "evidence" that convicts an innocent party. That certain consequence when caught is also an YUUUGE deterrent, prompting a putative life-taker to pause and poncer... how likley am I really to get caught, convicted.... and if those two happens they WILL of a surety end MY life. That is why God instituted capital punishment for murderers. HE's smarter than any of us, and knows what is good.
He also has commissioined the "civil magistrate to bear the sword agasint those who DO HARM". Note well, He did NOT commmission these guys to bear the sword agasinst those who have done what someone else has deemed "wrong" but has cost no one anything. :et my grass grow three inches taller than some poohbah decided is "correct", paint my house chartreuse hot pink and revolting violet in opposition to the HOA's "settled policy", maybe lose my job cause I would not take the poke in the arm, can't find another cause all the other employers demand the same cuz Phautchee sez so, and now can't pay the child support to my ex wife who has the kids..... they call that a felony in some states if it goes on for a certin time.. often as short as 90 days. Or maybe stand up and proffer my OPINION on a certain weigthy matter at the local school board 'meeting" and get arrested because someone else "didn't agree" with what I said or believe..... or how's about riding a paddleboard a half mile off the shore in Lone Beach CA and get arrested and imprisoned for failing to drape a piece of worthless cloth accross my mug, cuz SOMEONE decided that was cool..... then fined some insane bout of money which I can't pay because my employer's comoany was determined, by some arbirrary standard, to be "non-essential"... and I was out on the water to try and retain what was left of my sanity....... but some poohbah had decided that's "dangerous". Hah, they caused far more serious risk to the individual detained and dumped into a jail cell than had they left him alone, half mile offshore, nearest folks till the sheriffs intruded were half a mile or more away, and that virus cannot survive in open sunlit air like that for more than at most a minute and probably less than half a minute.. yet I am the criminal?
THIS thinking is what has to change.
So I own twemty seven different rifles made in the similitude of the "high powered" AR pattern rifle, have NO intention of using any of them to harm anyone/thing other than some 16 x 20 inch pieces of paper stapled to a post an hundred yards away. But there are they who would have me in prison for the mere fact of OWNING or POSSESSING one of those rifles.
A wonderful comment. Better still, try to work trannies and groomers into your next opus.
I don’t like Red Flag laws for the very first obvious opportunities for misuse. It’s already illegal to protest in front of a judge’s house, but the FJB/Garland DOJ is studiously not enforcing it. It’s almost as if they really do want a nut case assassinate a Justice so that they can name their replacement.
But the opening up of juvenile records for, maybe, 3 years after someone turns 18, for the specific purpose of preventing them from purchasing firearms before they turn 21, has some allure to me. As a society, do we really want kids already determined to be violent to be able to buy long guns, before they turn 21, just because of the legal fiction that they shouldn’t be responsible for what they did as kids. If the purpose of background checks is to prevent the sale of guns to those likely to abuse and misuse them, then pretending that past behavior doesn’t predict future actions just because the otherwise disabling crimes happened before they turned 18, doesn’t make sense to me.
If "policing where the crime is" makes sense - i.e. Harlem vs Croton-on-Hudson - then consistency demands that if large percentages of violent crimes come from the 18-21 year old demographic, that group should be extra-carefully vetted.
Not DENIED their civil rights, but rather simply looked at more closely - social media, school history, juvenile detention history, arrest records, mental health records, etc. Put on a 4473 the statement: "Application to purchase a weapon will implicitly constitute your consent to release of HIPAA and juvenile records to the FBI's NICS database to provide for enhanced scrutiny and more accurate vetting." That way, consent to the scrutiny by the applicant is provided automatically as a condition of purchase.
It doesn't deny the applicant's civil right to privacy, because the information is not made public; it is used in an existing secure system that is required to destroy all application data by statute. It is only by degree a greater granting of vetting permission; you already consent implicitly to a background check by filling out a 4473 in the first place! We already do it for NFA items.
Try it with a sunset of 5 years and measure the result; extend or make permanent if the results justify the action. We already have proven precedent of the notion in the form of broken window theory and stop, question, and frisk that makes it worth doing a limited pilot to evaluate the result. What do we have to lose?
The gov is releasing more criminals back onto the streets, criminals are coming across our S. Border in record number and our gov is passing legislation that ties the legal gun owners hands and makes them into a criminal for wanting self defense, yet the elite political all have tax paid or private security....If that is two tiered law then, What is it????....It's not going to work and if I were in law enforcement, you would not see me putting my life on the line to remove a legal gun owners guns because a politician said, he was now a criminal....I would arrest the politician and put them in a Fed prison for treason.....
"shall not be infringed" means shall not be infringed.
The coercive govt. paradigm criminalizes freedom.
Humanity's biggest asset is individuals who are free to innovate, e.g., free from coercive politics, free to make choices without interference from others, however "well intended". I contend "good intentions" are no excuse, no justification, for controlling peaceful others. People who want to "live & let live" have a right to life, liberty, property, business, happiness.
This is called, political equality, individual sovereignty, the opposite of a sovereign ruler or sovereign representation. A sovereign citizen cannot co-exist with others who believe they are "more sovereign", "more equal", or "authorities with special privileges". For example, people who have solutions for their needs may be prohibited from fulfilling those needs due to govt. intervention, e.g., monopoly "services", i.e., services forced on those who don't want/need them. Law often protects exploitation, prevents freedom of economic action, immorally, as if "the law is the law" is a magic chant that could explain/justify a wrong. It can't/doesn't, and no one should ever let that lie stand in their way.
We have a right to live and let live. It follows, natural assets are useless without economic freedom. Life as a free person is unlivable in the authoritarian state, the present situation worldwide, the unfree world.
To be free is to selectively, carefully, resist all authority, on principle.