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Dianne Feinstein

Dianne Feinstein and the Dangers of Gerontocracy

Plus: Wikipedia vs. crypto, Elon Musk takes on Twitter, and more...

Peter Suderman | 4.15.2022 9:30 AM

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If you ever feel like politics is stuck in the past, consider the ages of who is involved at the highest levels.

President Joe Biden is currently 79; he's the oldest person to have ever assumed the office of the presidency. His 2020 presidential opponent (and possible 2024 GOP nominee) Donald Trump is currently 75. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D–Calif.) is 82. At 71, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.) is practically a spring chicken. When the 117th Congress began last year, the average age of a House member was 58; the average senator was 64. Over time, the average age of a member of Congress has gotten older. America is being ruled by a gerontocracy.

Some of this is just a result of longer lifespans and longer working lives. And some of it is a byproduct of the graying of America, which has grown older in the years past the baby boom.

But inevitably, it's led to concerns about the ability of our nation's governing class to perform their jobs—hence stories like the one published by the San Francisco Chronicle yesterday, which came with the strikingly blunt headline: "Colleagues worry Dianne Feinstein is now mentally unfit to serve, citing recent interactions."

Feinstein, a Democrat, is 88 years old. She's also the senior senator from California, the most populous state in the nation. That's a big responsibility with a lot of power.

Yet the Chronicle report suggests she can't even remember whether she's met someone a mere hour beforehand. The piece opens with the following story of her forgetfulness:

When a California Democrat in Congress recently engaged in an extended conversation with Sen. Dianne Feinstein, they prepared for a rigorous policy discussion like those they'd had with her many times over the last 15 years.

Instead, the lawmaker said, they had to reintroduce themselves to Feinstein multiple times during an interaction that lasted several hours.

The report relies on sources who wouldn't be named, but it goes on to cite four senators, three of whom are Democrats, plus multiple members of Feinstein's staff and a Democratic member of California's legislature who say, in the Chronicle's summary, that "her memory is rapidly deteriorating" and that "it appears she can no longer fulfill her job duties without her staff doing much of the work required to represent the nearly 40 million people of California." On her worst days, the report says, she doesn't even consistently recognize colleagues she's worked with for years.

Remember, most of the sources for the Chronicle's report are professional Democrats. This isn't partisan sour grapes.

Obviously, Feinstein's reported mental lapses are both quite sad on a personal level and concerning on a practical level.

But the overall graying of America's political class has other effects, too, independent of mental fitness.

Our lawmakers are increasingly out of touch when it comes to technology, even as tech law and regulation have taken center stage. Remember when former Iowa GOP Rep. Steve King (currently 72) got mad at the CEO of a major tech company at a congressional hearing because of something on his granddaughter's iPhone? The CEO was Sundar Pichai of Google, which doesn't make iPhones. This is an extreme example, but lawmaker cluelessness is depressingly common when it comes to tech policy.

The effects of an elderly Congress go beyond dumb questions at show hearings. It's not an accident that the two biggest spending programs for the 2022 fiscal year are Social Security ($1.196 trillion) and Medicare ($766 billion)—entitlements for seniors, both of which are on track to insolvency in the coming years. America's senior benefits are the biggest drivers of long-term debt.

And then there's just the general lack of fresh thinking in politics. When someone has been in the same role for decades, they tend to fall back on old habits, and it shows. Biden first entered the Senate in 1973. Nancy Pelosi has been in Congress since 1987. There's a reason that American politics today feels so bereft of new ideas: Too many of the people at the top pretty clearly haven't had one in a very long time.


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• Biden's job approval rating just hit a new low.

• Russia's flagship naval ship, the Moskva, has sunk. Meanwhile, the Russian military appears to be on the brink of capturing Mariupol.

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  1. Rich   3 years ago

    there’s just the general lack of fresh thinking in politics.

    Hey, with dementia it’s fresh thinking all the time!

    1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

      Like Marxism?

    2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Every day is a new day!

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        Bill Murray for President!

        1. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          Total Consciousness in 2024!

          “…So I got that going for me, which is nice!” 🙂

    3. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

      And you can hide your own Easter eggs!

    4. Presskh   3 years ago

      Like Reagan famously said, “This Alzheimer’s isn’t so bad – I make new friends every day!”

    5. Bill Falcon   3 years ago

      I”d take a bunch of 90 year olds that don’t pass any legislation for a decade over what we have today. Or hell, Ron Paul at 86 would be great running the White House and hell clone him for every house and senate seat. All Ron all the time..we would be the better for it

  2. Rich   3 years ago

    Russia’s flagship naval ship, the Moskva, has sunk.

    Russia’s ‘broken arrow’: Fears that NUCLEAR MISSILES sank with Putin’s flagship Moskva amid claims that 452 of the 510 crew have drowned and top admiral has been arrested after cruiser was ‘hit by Ukrainian missile’

    Oops!

    1. Sevo   3 years ago

      They found a wrecker!

    2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      A bunch of ‘yes-men’ led by psychopaths blinded by visions of power are what gets us things like this.

      It would be so damn funny if Zelenskyy offered Putin to send down SCUBA-diving engineers to get the missiles dislodged, you know, for keeps. 🙂

  3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    Wait, it took a San Francisco Chronicle article about a single Senator in a safe seat to wake you up to the fact that maybe not everyone at the top of DC politics is 100% “there”?

    I guess someone slept through 2015-2022.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      Political parties aside, there really needs to be an age limit on serving in Congress or the Presidency for this reason.

      I mean, goddamn, our current President shook hands with an imaginary friend yesterday.

      1. JimboJr   3 years ago

        ^ absolutely this.

        You know what is an actual “danger to democracy”? A bunch of folks that are so entangled in the current kleptocracy, in bed with every lobbyist of their persuasion, and actively getting loaded off insider trading. Their only goal will ever be to hold on to their seat (aka the money train). Add to that they are able to hold on so long, significant dementia is becoming a real issue.

        The president currently cant stay awake, keep from soiling himself, or keep from having angry incoherent outbursts. Feinstein is fucking 90. This is a different country than when it was founded. We need term limits and age limits. Neither of which were really required when people died somewhere between 40-50 routinely.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

          Yeah I’m 65 and I am definitely not the man I was at 50. No way would I attempt to serve in the senate. Having said that, I’m not sure the millennials have their shit together either. Half of them think communism is pretty groovy and war with Russia is Jim dandy. At the same time. In the same brain.

        2. perlmonger   3 years ago

          I think if we reduced the amount of power the government wields we wouldn’t need age limits or term limits because nobody would stay in until they died anymore because it wouldn’t be worth it to miss out on their grandkids.

          1. Will Nonya   3 years ago

            Exactly this. People bemoan lobbyist and cronyism but without the power to act on those interest at the expense of others there could be no corruption and little interest in spending a lifetime acquiring political power that can’t be traded.

        3. reasonable1   3 years ago

          Totally agreed. This is proof of why term limits for Congress are needed. There used to be term limits until they conveniently removed them for themselves.
          That won’t prevent more presidents with dementia, so there should be age limits for presidents, or some sort of dementia testing.

      2. JohannesDinkle   3 years ago

        Corn Pop; he’s always around.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

          I believe his christian name is Korn Pop.

        2. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

          C’Mon, Man! He wouldn’t shake hands with Corn-Pop! Corn-Pop’s a bad dude! He’d shake hands with all the Civil Rights workers he rallied beside to desegregate theaters in Delaware! 🙂

          1. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

            He probably was trying to shake the hand of the voice in his ear pod.

      3. Longtobefree   3 years ago

        When I saw the clip, my thought was that he was looking around for his handler to take him off the stage. To be fair, I did not see a clear exit from the camera’s point of view.

      4. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

        I almost cried watching that, because that doddering sockpuppet is supposed to be the most powerful man in the world, and he’s shaking hands with empty air and wondering where he’s supposed to go.

      5. R Mac   3 years ago

        That was rough. There’s no way he makes it three more years.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          Just until midterms. Then Kammy can assume the throne and appoint Hillary as her Veep.

          1. CE   3 years ago

            Never go against an Arkansan when death is on the line.

          2. Overt   3 years ago

            This is plausible but the worst ever thing the Dems could ever do. Those two would be impeached so quickly that they wouldn’t even have time to blink

      6. Ecoli   3 years ago

        It’s odd that I hear no talk/threats to use the 25th amendment now that dementia-Joe/10%/big-guy/Brandon/sleepy Joe is in office.

      7. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

        AOC is 32, Omar is 39, Tlaib is 45, Pressley is 49. Maybe there should be a minimum age requirement.

        1. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

          An updated minumum age requirement.

        2. Presskh   3 years ago

          Taking into account those idiots, there should also be a minimum IQ requirement.

    2. Minadin   3 years ago

      2015? Heck, I can pull up video of Biden’s questioning of Clarence Thomas for his Supreme Court nomination, and that was thirty years ago.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

        That was just Biden being retarded. His mind was working (as well as Biden’s mind could work). But if you listen to that questioning session, as bat-shit insane as Biden clearly was, he could put a sentence together and stay on topic– even if the topic was retarded.

        1. Chinny Chin Chin   3 years ago

          People thought Reagan was senile even before his second term.

          And George Washington’s 1795 SC nominee, John Rutledge, had his mental capacity questioned.

          So, no, not just Biden being retarded.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            Reading comprehension is hard.

            1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

              Cognitive decline is epidemic, I guess.

              1. mad.casual   3 years ago

                Contagious, with social media as a vector even.

        2. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

          Agreed. He’s always been an idiot, aging has not helped his stupidity or his tendency to bully and brag.

    3. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

      To be completely fair Diane Reynolds, the Senator’s husband died in February of this year, just two months ago. She lost her husband, her life partner. I agree she is old AF. I also think anyone losing their life partner is not 100% for some time. That is anyone it happens to; age has nothing to do with it.

      1. Rockstevo   3 years ago

        I ask my self why all the sudden is a Dem paper publishing an article about a Dem Senator? Someone wants her to retire so Newsome can appoint a younger person more in line with their ideals. Not sure of the rules in California, can the he appoint himself?

  4. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    “Dangers of Gerontocracy”

    I disagree. Biden is older than all 4 of my grandparents and he’s the best President ever.

    #LibertariansForBiden

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

      Furthermore, this entire website / magazine exists to promote the financial interests of Charles Koch, who is also older than all 4 of my grandparents.

      #RichOldWhitePeopleAreOK
      #(AsLongAsTheyHateDrumpf)

    2. defaultdotxbe   3 years ago

      Really? I would have figured you for having 2 grandparents.

      1. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

        I thought 4 but all the same sex.

  5. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    Will crime spikes thwart criminal justice reform legislation?

    Well, lessee, just some idle passing observations about how my town is doing. So Seattle passed some initiatives about not sending cops on certain calls because it will de-escalate violence. We’re what, two years into this shit since a small, mostly peaceful group destroyed a city neighborhood, burned shit down and forced an entire police precinct to evacuate.

    According to my weak-tea local newspaper, this has been bogged down by “experts” trying to figure out how this will even work. And, after all the smoke clears, they figure they’re going to be sending social workers to call where cops wouldn’t have been dispatched anyway. Because the moment something looks remotely dangerous, or even potentially dangerous, the Social[ist] Workers and their unions want police protection before they respond to anything, so the cops are going to be dispatched one way or another.

    But it sure felt good to screech #DefundThePoPo for all of 2020. Peace prizes all around for anyone who tweeted the hashtag!

    Funny that.

    1. Nardz   3 years ago

      I don’t know what this is, but I’m all in

      https://twitter.com/VishBurra/status/1514973102198898703?t=FstcME9vHW8YFe51dgoOUg&s=19

      Need more ads in my life like this one for @joekent16jan19

      [Video]

  6. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    “Biden’s job approval rating just hit a new low.”

    Ugh. More wingnut.com disinformation.

    Reason’s leading economics expert says we’re in the best economy ever. And you don’t need to be a Nate Silver / Sam Wang level genius to know a strong economy means the President’s approval rating should be high.

    #DefendBidenAtAllCosts

    1. Commenter_XY   3 years ago

      Wait a minute….My matzah for the Passover holiday is up 15% from last year. Better add Matzah to the list (spittin tobaccy, etc).

      #HeyJoeMyMatzahIsMoreExpensiveDamnit!

  7. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    I guess this is Reason’s way of admitting– tangentially– that Biden is completely gone.

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

      #BidenIsAsSharpAsEver

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        #TooBadHeWasNeverSharp

        1. defaultdotxbe   3 years ago

          Zing!

      2. Fats of Fury   3 years ago

        #BidenIsAsSharpAsCheese

        1. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

          #PlayYourCurdsRight

    2. Nardz   3 years ago

      It was readily apparent before Reason campaigned for him

    3. The Encogitationer   3 years ago

      We’ll know for sure if Reason starts taking ads for Jello Pudding, Boost, Hoveround, and Depends. 🙂

  8. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   3 years ago

    There’s a reason that American politics today feels so bereft of new ideas: Too many of the people at the top pretty clearly haven’t had one in a very long time.

    New ideas like Socialism, Marxism, [woke] racism! YOUNG PEOPLE ARE THE FUTURE!

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      Yeah, not convinced the woke socialist who’ll live for another 50 yrs. is a better option than the woke socialist who’ll only live for the next 10.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

        The good thing about woke socialists is that, other than the elite few, if they get what they want they will die 20-30 years younger of malnutrition or liver failure.

  9. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

    “Will crime spikes thwart criminal justice reform legislation?”

    Not when Democrats are in charge. They’re absolutely on board with the Koch / Soros / Reason soft-on-crime #FreeTheCriminals and #EmptyThePrisons agenda. Just look at our newest Supreme Court justice, who is even soft on CP enthusiasts!

    #NoCrimeDeservesMoreThan2MonthsInPrison
    #(ExceptThe1/6Insurrection)

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      #NoBootsOnTheDeskAgain

  10. sarcasmic   3 years ago

    The Constitution specifies minimum ages for political offices. About time it was amended to include a mandatory retirement age.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 years ago

      I wouldn’t mind kicking up the minimum age while we’re at it, too. With how mass media encourages people to extend adolescence well in to their 20s these days, people probably shouldn’t be making laws when their highest priority is partying in the club.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        Good point.

    2. Joe M   3 years ago

      Good luck with that. About as likely as term limits.

      1. sarcasmic   3 years ago

        Oh I know. They’re not going to vote to limit their power.

    3. BillyG   3 years ago

      Mandate every elected member has to have a cognitive test annually, and the results for all published. That should take care of it. Anyone who votes against it should be asked why they think they’d fail it.

    4. JFree   3 years ago

      If de-electing the senile can only happen with a constitutional amedment, then we got bigger problems.

  11. Red Harem   3 years ago

    Feinstein does not even have a law degree.
    Only a quarter of our *lawmakers* have law degrees.

    1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

      So? Are you saying lawyers are over represented

    2. Zeb   3 years ago

      Don’t worry all the laws are still written by lawyers. The whole thing is sort of a jobs program for lawyers.

    3. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Being a lawyer is not a positive.

    4. sarcasmic   3 years ago

      They don’t write laws. The laws are written by staffers and by corporate lawyers. More often than not a lobbyist will show up with some potential piece of legislation granting special privileges to some corporation along with a totally unrelated campaign contribution. Next thing you know that legislation is passed and the corporation now benefits from rent seeking.

    5. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

      So what?

    6. Vernon Depner   3 years ago

      Lawyers should be prohibited from serving in legislatures. We don’t need the foxes guarding the henhouse.

    7. Presskh   3 years ago

      There’s no requirement to be a lawyer to be a lawmaker and there should not be.

    8. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

      This argument might hold water if they were in the Judicial branch. And if it didn’t suppose that a law degree somehow granted a person some kind of special insight, rather than the ability to have clerks research matters.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Yet the Chronicle report suggests she can’t even remember whether she’s met someone a mere hour beforehand.

    Oh no, the duties of someone that powerful behind handled by subordinates in an open secret? I hope that kind of thing doesn’t happen higher up the chain of command.

  13. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

    Notice the Wikipedia “editors” weren’t complaining when the web sight started white washing socialist atrocities, and becoming blatantly political

  14. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    …but the group of editors are concerned about the environmental impact of bitcoin mining.

    The wiki servers are actually replenishing the ozone.

    1. Minadin   3 years ago

      So do cars.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Twitter’s board is considering measures to thwart Elon Musk’s attempt to purchase the company.

    The hive mind will not be supplanted.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Build you own Elon Musk.

    2. perlmonger   3 years ago

      Racist Twitter Board Declares They Would Rather Go Bankrupt Than Be Owned By An African American

  16. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Will crime spikes thwart criminal justice reform legislation?

    Something has to.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    The Republican National Committee just voted to end GOP participation in the Commission on Presidential Debates…

    The next presidential is going to be lit.

    1. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland   3 years ago

      It’s a logical move with how one sided the debates are moderated

  18. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Biden’s job approval rating just hit a new low.

    Puuuuu-TINNNN!

  19. Sevo   3 years ago

    Seems Reason is ashamed of “roundup”; it’s a search of the new threads to find which one got the title most mornings.

    1. Jima   3 years ago

      Personal injury attorneys have explained that Roundup is hazardous to everything, that’s probably the explanation.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        ENB gave us all the clap?

  20. Joe M   3 years ago

    “More than 200 longtime Wikipedia editors have requested that the Wikimedia Foundation stop accepting cryptocurrency donations,” reports Wired. Crypto donations make up just 0.1 percent of the Foundation’s total annual fundraising, but the group of editors are concerned about the environmental impact of bitcoin mining. It’s an odd demand since, as Wired notes, declining to accept donations in crypto wouldn’t actually reduce bitcoin’s electricity use.

    If you didn’t already know it, this shows how clownishly far to the left the core group of Wikipedia editors skews. They have swallowed the bogus “environmental impact of bitcoin” narrative hook, line, and sinker.

    1. Joe M   3 years ago

      In fact, if you were to go check the Bitcoin article on WP, I’m certain an excessive chunk of the article would focus on said environmental impact.

    2. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

      A business based on computer servers is complaining that other computer-server based businesses pollute too much?

      Say it ain’t so.

    3. perlmonger   3 years ago

      Also, not all cryptocurrencies are Bitcoin. So this is like driving a Trabant and deciding the automobile as a concept is a failure.

  21. Sevo   3 years ago

    “Biden’s job approval rating just hit a new low.”

    His staff is drawing straws to get someone to tell him.

    1. NOYB2   3 years ago

      He’ll be angry and blame Reagan, then someone will throw him his favorite stuffed toy and he’ll immediately forget about it.

    2. Joe M   3 years ago

      “Mr. President, I’ve got good news and bad news.”

      “Tell me the good news first.”

      “I brought you an ice cream cone.”

      1. Sevo   3 years ago

        Or:
        “Feinstein is worse off than you”.

    3. mad.casual   3 years ago

      His staff is drawing straws to get someone to tell him.

      Again… today.

  22. Longtobefree   3 years ago

    “Biden’s job approval rating just hit a new low.”

    This administration just keeps on breaking record after record!
    Inflation rate
    Interest rate
    Spending
    All at record levels, and in just over a year.
    Let’s Go Brandon!

  23. NOYB2   3 years ago

    Diane Feinstein with dementia is a big improvement over Diane Feinstein, the politician who grabbed power by working with Jim Jones.

    1. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

      And dropping Harvey Milk’s name every time someone brings up guns.

    2. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

      It’s terrible that she’s going through, if she’s going through age-related dementia or something like Alzheimer’s. On the other hand, she was a major opponent of individual rights for much of her career, and a fairly nasty partisan piece of work. So, cheers, and enjoy the pudding, Di.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    Biden will give Ukraine another $800 million in military aid.

    U.S. dollars? Haven’t they suffered enough?

  25. Fist of Etiquette   3 years ago

    COVID-19 cases are rising again, but-

    NOT INTERESTED IN AFTER THE BUT.

    1. perlmonger   3 years ago

      “But unless it’s fully 10% fatal I don’t give a fuck.”

  26. NOYB2   3 years ago

    but the group of editors are concerned about the environmental impact of bitcoin mining. It’s an odd demand since, as Wired notes, declining to accept donations in crypto wouldn’t actually reduce bitcoin’s electricity use

    It’s even odder since donations via the traditional financial system also consume massive amounts of energy. Bitcoin likely is more energy efficient than VISA or MC.

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      I’ve been a Wikipedia “editor” for twenty years and one of over a million, and there are 58 million articles with more than 17 million edits per month.
      So 200 “longtime” Wikipedia editors means absolutely nothing.

      You could find 200 to agree with anything.

  27. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

    “The Republican National Committee just voted to end GOP participation in the Commission on Presidential Debates, saying that the Commission is “biased and has refused to enact simple and commonsense reforms to help ensure fair debates including hosting debates before voting begins and selecting moderators who have never worked for candidates on the debate stage.””

    Woah, where’d those balls come from? What about bending over and asking for another?
    It’s no longer the party of grand elder statesmen like McCain and Mittens.

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      Remember that time Chris Wallace and Biden debated Trump?

      1. PeteRR   3 years ago

        Or Candy Crowley and Obama debating Mitt Romney?

  28. Moderation4ever   3 years ago

    I noted in 2020 that we had the choice of two septuagenarians for President. And despite this we had record turn outs. Sadly, parties don’t pay a price for this.

    I don’t think the government should set an upper limit, but I do think the parties need to move this way. They should set limits age limits above which they will not support a candidate.

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      “despite this we had record turn outs”

      Amazing, almost baffling turnout. Paradigm smashing. Old Joe managed to reverse a 150 year trend. The biggest voter percentage increase in any modern democratic election anywhere, ever.
      And he did it by hiding in his basement and not campaigning. Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, JFK, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and Obama couldn’t do it but old Joe did.

      1. Moderation4ever   3 years ago

        Joe didn’t turn them out. The former President did. Some turned out to vote for him, more turned out to vote him out.

        1. Nardz   3 years ago

          Which, as a corrupt poll worker who entered fraudulent votes in madison, Wisconsin m4e is “certain” of

        2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          Obama won in 2012 because 65,915,795 came out to vote for him. Hillary did similar at 65,853,514.
          Old Joe got 81,268,924 votes.

          That’s 15,353,129 more votes than even the lightbringer. An additional 20% of the population.

          So your saying a whopping additional 15 million people in the US suddenly decided to vote for the first time ever because Mr. Meantweets was unpleasant?

          That’s pretty amazing, huh?

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            An additional 20% of the population in vote percentage.

          2. Moderation4ever   3 years ago

            Remember that 65.8M that Hillary got in 2016 was more than the former President got that year. Trump up his numbers in 2020 but not enough. Those meantweets brought out more voters also just not enough.

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              “Those meantweets brought out more voters also just not enough.”

              Almost thirty million more, when all was said and done. No national election anywhere, in all of history, had ever showed such a massive jump in the number of voting electorate.

              Trump’s polling #’s were better than Biden’s are now BTW.

              And you don’t ever wonder if any of this is even the teensiest bit suspicious, huh?

              Well you better not, because that would make you a “coNspiRacy theorist” and you will be deplatformed (but 2000 and 2016 are okay to challenge).

              1. R Mac   3 years ago

                Including 100% of nursing home residents in several counties.

                1. R Mac   3 years ago

                  In Wisconsin.

              2. Moderation4ever   3 years ago

                “No national election anywhere, in all of history, ”
                Got a citation for this whopper?

                Also the percentage of eligible voters who voted in 2020 was in high 60%. That means a another 30% could have voted but did not chose to vote. So that number could have been even bigger.

                1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                  Find me one routine, scheduled leadership election in any democratic country that had a bigger vote percentage increase than the 2020 American election and I’ll gladly eat my words.

                  1. Moderation4ever   3 years ago

                    So can I assume you don’t have a citation for your statement?

                    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                      So I assume you can’t come up with a single example to demonstrate otherwise, even though you have the whole world to pick from? You’re the one challenging me.

                      I was going to try to bait you into doubling down and saying something stupid, but I can’t be bothered anymore.

                      Here’s the US Census Bureau saying 2020 Election Had Largest Increase in Voting on Record

                    2. Moderation4ever   3 years ago

                      To ML:
                      First, your statement was overly broad. You said any national election “anywhere”. That could encompass any number of nations, England, France, Switzerland, ect.

                      Confining it to the US we have seen swings in voter participation throughout history where we have data. Highest were actually during periods of heavy immigration into this country in later 1800s. More recent data suggest that the 1948 to 1952 saw a larger jump than 2016 to 2020. As large as 2020 jump was there is little in the data to suggest it was outside statistical limits. So, I don’t think it is indicative of anything other than a very engage electorate.

          3. Presskh   3 years ago

            It was Biden’s hiding in his basement during the campaign that attracted the additional 15 million voters. And such bravery should be well rewarded!

        3. defaultdotxbe   3 years ago

          Neither candidate turned them out, the increased availability of mail-in voting did. Had that not been the case turnout would have comparable to past elections

          1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

            If you actually analyzed that belief, you might realize something.

            1. Nardz   3 years ago

              There were 50 mile long Trump convoys, regular Trump boat parades with thousands of vessels, multiple Trump rallies drawing 100k people a week… but Trump didn’t turn them out?

              1. Presskh   3 years ago

                Meanwhile, Biden could barely attract 200 people to his infrequent “rallies”. But he garnered 15 million more votes than Obama. Hmmm…

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        That’s what happens when you have the most honest and secure election in the history of the planet. In Wisconsin they had 100% participation in the nursing homes. Some even exceeded 100%. That’s the level of enthusiasm that that a real statesman like Joe Biden inspires.

        1. Moderation4ever   3 years ago

          Except that did not really happen. One facility had 100% turn out and that facility had only 12 residents. Actual counts were down at nursing home in Wisconsin in 2020.

          You are likely taking your information from Michael Gableman’s report. Mr. Gableman never gave a percentage, he reported ‘many” care facilities had 100% turn out. By “many” he meant “one”. He also never showed his work and like your math teacher said, “I cannot give you partial credit, if you don’t show you calculations.” So Mr. Gableman is just wrong.

          1. R Mac   3 years ago

            Nope.

          2. JesseAz   3 years ago

            The investigation has expanded since the first story dummy. It was nearly all nursing home above 90%. Which is weird since only employees of nursing homes were allowed to assist with the voting (illegally) and no the families of the people.

            1. Moderation4ever   3 years ago

              Got a citation for this?

              Because a report in Wisconsin State Journal April 10, 2022 says different.

              1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                I found your error. The source you are relying on who is trying to hide the investigation. Choose virtually any other source.

              2. JesseAz   3 years ago

                LOL!!! Wow, your citation is even worse.

                They try to say “it was a lie” by saying if a nursing home wasn’t registered, it doesn’t apply to the 100% claims of the opponents. Wow. did you even read this?

                1. Moderation4ever   3 years ago

                  I read it and reread it after reading this and found what you claim nowhere in the text. Perhaps you could explain it?

                  I am also waiting for you citation on the new data.

          3. Bill Falcon   3 years ago

            Look the Dems got it done. they pushed for sending out mail in ballots and then did a great jot canvessing neighborhoods which are high democratic voters but low voting percentages. It was legal.

            Our local school board/budget elections are run in such a way to ensure the teachers unions/administrators/contractors always win. They only allow voting for one day, at the high school. Have long lines because they have few folks running the elections. Most folks realize even if they vote down the budget the unions will win anyway in “austerity” budgets. When I voted I asked one of the folks running the election and I asked with covid why can’t didn’t they send out mail in ballots to all households. He smiled and said, well we wouldn’t win then.

            It was the mail in ballots and feet on the street following up. Trump got “trumped”. he should have stopped all mail in ballots or severly reduced them. He would be in the white house today.

    2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Alleged record turnouts.

    3. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

      The parties support power. Period. They will never tie their own hands when it comes to supporting a candidate most likely to rise to power.

      They’d dig up FDR or Ike and wheel ’em out if they thought they were good for the votes.

      1. Moderation4ever   3 years ago

        I don’t agree. I think you have people that will not give up. They think they are the only one fighting for truth, justice and the American way and they don’t think anyone can replace them. What you have are parties too chicken shit scared to talk straight to these people and say it time to pass the torch.

  29. JesseAz   3 years ago

    National Council of Teachers of English says its time to stop with that reading books and writing essays shit. Time to focus on social media.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/english-teachers-announce-book-reading-is-overrated-claim-its-time-to-decenter-reading-and-essays

    “Students should examine how digital media and popular culture are completely intermingled with language, literature, and writing. The time has come to decenter book reading and essay writing as the pinnacles of English language arts education,” the statement read.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      A new generation of content creators!

      1. Outlaw Josey Wales   3 years ago

        Who can’t fucking spell.

        1. Stuck in California   3 years ago

          I’ll be honest, I can’t spell for crap any more.

          I hand write these days. A lot. It definitely shows you how lazy you get with computer spell checkers. You look at a word and think “umm, that doesn’t look right…” many times.

          I swear I could spell better a couple decades ago. Computer use the last couple of decades kind of allowed the skill to atrophy.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      That’s the way ENB does it. If it’s not on twitter it didn’t happen.

    3. perlmonger   3 years ago

      So this is what happens when people who never grow up attain positions of authority. Hunh.

    4. Presskh   3 years ago

      Not surprising, since many of these “teachers” can’t read beyond elementary grade level themselves, much less compose a well-constructed, logical essay.

    5. Bill Falcon   3 years ago

      Schools of education should be shut down. Teaching should be through an apprentice program (2 years) after you earn a BA/BS in real degree programs like hard science, engineering, business, and math.

      1. Longtobefree   3 years ago

        I got some bad news for you about those “business” degrees – – – – – – – – – – – –

  30. Bill Dalasio   3 years ago

    And then there’s just the general lack of fresh thinking in politics.

    This may sound novel to the “libertarians” at Reason, but maybe the best policy for our republic might be a little less “fresh thinking”. The overwhelming majority of political ideas that have come down the pike for the last century or two have mostly been statist and destructive. The whole “protect people’s rights and otherwise leave them the hell alone” is terribly unfresh. Why, the Constitution is over a hundred years old, don’t you know.

    1. defaultdotxbe   3 years ago

      While the idea of leaving people alone is none too fresh, its fresher than the notion that government has unlimited power to rule arbitrarily, which seems to be the guiding principle in Washington (and most state capitals)

  31. JesseAz   3 years ago

    How refreshing. No more mean tweets.

    “He works for a network that provides people with questions that, nothing personal to any individual, including Peter Doocy, but might make anyone sound like a stupid son of a b****,” Psaki replied.

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      ?

    2. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      LOL

    3. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

      Was that Jen or Joe? Hard to keep them straight.

  32. Nardz   3 years ago

    Pravda was never even this shameless

    https://twitter.com/Slate/status/1514915461955207173?t=ygv-oAXVjHGwiTjJbZWvKw&s=19

    If the “deep state” is simply bureaucrats trying to uphold decency and the rule of law, let’s hope it runs very deep indeed.

    [Link]

    1. Nardz   3 years ago

      The “rightwing conspiracy theory” to “is good actually”pipeline

    2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      So Trump was right, but that’s okay because the bureaucrats are fundamentally decent but the voters aren’t?

    3. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Unelected officials running things is the best form of representative government.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

        It’s the only way to save democracy.

    4. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Merge that with Salon’s “Big Lie” big lie, and I think we can all see where this is heading.

    5. mad.casual   3 years ago

      If the “deep state” is simply bureaucrats trying to uphold decency and the rule of law, let’s hope it runs very deep indeed.

      And if they’re a death cult?

  33. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1514938900686544897?t=-yvuM-czgpAY5NX4Bzyaog&s=19

    Yesterday was a flagship day in corporate media. It was the day they were forced to explicitly state what has long been clear: they not only favor censorship but desperately crave and depend on it.

    Even if Musk doesn’t buy Twitter, never forget what yesterday revealed.

    In US culture, we’re inculcated from childhood that censorship is bad. So of course nobody — especially journalists — wants to say: “I favor censorship.”

    That’s why they need euphemisms like “content moderation”: to pretend it’s about bots, abuse, etc. rather than ideology.

    Everyone knows they are lying. Nobody cares about Twitter censoring bots or spam. That’s not what this is about.

    The social media censorship people care about is 100% ideological: banning dissent on COVID, the Biden emails, culture war debates, etc. That’s what’s at stake.

    Let’s put it this way:

    On Google/YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, you are free to say the 2000 and 2016 elections were stolen and fraudulent. You can’t say that about 2020.

    Before the 2020 election, you weren’t allowed to post reporting on the Biden emails.

    It’s all ideological.

    Throughout the COVID pandemic, you weren’t allowed to question the efficacy of cloth masks. You weren’t allowed to interrogate the origins of the virus. You weren’t allowed to debate vaccines or lockdowns. No dissent from Fauci/WHO was allowed.

    The censorship is 100% political.

    You’re allowed to spread any lies, propaganda and disinformation you want if it advances the Ukrainian cause (i.e., the US/NATO cause), but will be instantly banned if you say anything that challenges that on the ground of “Russia disinformation.” This is all explicit.

    Censorship of conservatives gets most attention because it’s so common, but censorship of anti-establishment leftists is also frequent: any dissident can be banned.

    Pretending this is about bots or spam is fraudulent. This censorship is about control of political information.

    Social media was heralded as an innovation that would liberate individuals from centralized control by the state and oligarchical power over their speech.

    It has become the exact opposite: the most powerful tool of information control and speech constraints ever devised.

    How dumb do you have to be to believe that journalists – who work at Bloomberg and the Bezos-owned WPost or Comcast or CNN – are worried about billionaires controlling media (????).

    They’re only petrified that the *wrong* billionaire, one who may not censor for them, might reign.

    There are many reasons to be skeptical of Musk’s motives and, even if pure, his ability to restore free speech to Twitter. Way too many powerful interests need this censorship. But the panic reveals so much. My @getcallin show yesterday covered all this:

    [Link]

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      It was just as enlightening as Trump’s presidency for what the corporate press really is.

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Trump forced a lot of people to drop the masks, and Elon is doing that too.
        They’re not even giving lip service to free speech anymore.

        1. perlmonger   3 years ago

          Man, the masks came off so fast yesterday they took off the John Wayne Gacy style one’s underneath with ’em.

    2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      “Censorship of conservatives gets most attention because it’s so common, but censorship of anti-establishment leftists is also frequent: any dissident can be banned.”

      I often shout about the left here, but Greenwald has a point. Our real enemies, the ones who hate the proles and are trying to destroy us, are the globalist establishment. For political expediency they may wear progressive masks and push barking mad woke policies, but they’re really a resurgence of the second estate, the aristocracy.

    3. mad.casual   3 years ago

      So of course nobody — especially journalists — wants to say: “I favor censorship.”

      IDK. Again, “blocking and screening of offensive material” is pretty crystal fucking clear.

  34. JesseAz   3 years ago

    Line by mine breakdown on how well equipped the taliban now is.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/felixsater/status/1513984098687139847

    Felix Sater
    @felixsater
    ·
    Apr 12
    Replying to
    @felixsater
    Aircraft: The Taliban now ranks #26 in the world in total military aircraft, thanks to us leaving behind
    208 planes and helicopters:
    110 helicopters
    60 transport/cargo planes
    20 light attack planes
    18 intelligence/surveillance planes

    Vehicles: You’ve probably seen the footage of the Taliban riding around in our humvees.
    We left a total of 75,898 vehicles:
    42,604 tactical vehicles
    22,174 humvees
    8,998 medium tactical vehicles
    1,005 recovery vehicles
    928 mine-resistant vehicles
    189 armored tanks

    Weapons: Get ready for this…
    599,690 of our weapons are now in the hands of the Taliban:
    358,530 rifles
    126,295 pistols
    64,363 machine guns
    25,327 grenade launchers
    12,692 shotguns
    9,877 RPGs
    2,606 howitzers

    1. Nardz   3 years ago

      That’s old news, c’mon man.
      We have neo nazis to equip with advanced weaponry now.

    2. R Mac   3 years ago

      It would be funny (not haha funny) if the Taliban used its new warchest to actually start attacking its neighbors instead of just defending Afghanistan.

    3. Ronbback   3 years ago

      some people claim it was a failed planning of teh exit that left the equipment. No it wasn’t a failure it was planned. just like when tones of ground to air launchers and night vision googles were “stolen” form a warehouse in Libya. Why were we storing that stuff there in the first place. pretty sure thats why a certain group was left to die at Bengazi, they knew what was up.

      1. R Mac   3 years ago

        ^

    4. Unicorn Abattoir   3 years ago

      Zelensky should give them a call.

      1. mad.casual   3 years ago

        Zelensky? I know a few local dealerships that wouldn’t mind having even a fraction of 75K vehicles of any kind in inventory. Half-a-million rifles, pistols, and shotguns in inventory… everything must go!

        1. perlmonger   3 years ago

          Shit, buy the vehicles off the Taliban, strip the computers out…

          But yeah, maybe Zelensky can use some of the ^800M to buy some of the stuff we left behind from the Taliban.

  35. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1514971725070581768?t=iqOu0WDx53Fpx8Ncpvd8Qg&s=19

    Really can’t remember a more mask-dropping moment for how employees of large media corporations think.

    She’s really saying, earnestly, there would be global catastrophe if the peasants and serfs were “allowed to run wild” on Twitter: meaning, speak without political censorship:

    [Link]

  36. Nardz   3 years ago

    https://www.sott.net/article/466340-Retired-Swiss-Military-Intelligence-Officer-Is-it-Possible-to-Actually-Know-What-Has-Been-And-is-Going-on-in-Ukraine

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   3 years ago

      Read that. Wow. Very enlightening. Back when Reason was endorsing Biden I came here and warned libertarians that if he were elected the neocons would be fully in charge of foreign policy and any hope for peace and prosperity would be with Trump in office. But I never imagined they would, in just over one year, lead us to the brink of nuclear war. Every article in Reason about this war claims it is “unprovoked”. They have no clue what the actual history is and they don’t care.

  37. Brandybuck   3 years ago

    Gerontocracy is bad, but the rising stars in Congress are the younger Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Marjorie Taylor Greene, it becomes clear that the problem is not the age of our legislators the problem is that they are all batshit crazy.

  38. PeteRR   3 years ago

    “She’s also the senior senator from California, the most populous state in the nation. That’s a big responsibility with a lot of power.”

    Let’s not oversell the position. A nutted monkey do the job.

    1. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

      ENB is right, but you’re also right. I think I see a problem here.

  39. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    Here’s how the U.S. has been performing since President Joe Biden assumed office:

    The economy regained 7.9 million jobs, getting within 1.6 million of the peak employment before the pandemic.
    Unemployment fell to 3.6%; unfilled job openings surged, with 1.8 slots for every person seeking work.
    Inflation roared back to the highest level in over 40 years. Consumer prices are up 9.7%. Gasoline alone rose nearly 72%.
    Wages rose briskly, by 6.5%. But after adjusting for inflation, “real” weekly earnings went down 3.8%.
    The economy grew 5.7% last year — the highest rate of growth since 1984.
    The monthly average number of migrants apprehended at the border with Mexico over the last year increased by 309% compared with the average during President Donald Trump’s final year.
    The percentage of Americans without health insurance dropped by 1.4 points from the last quarter of Trump’s presidency to the third quarter of Biden’s.
    The U.S. admitted 18,766 refugees in Biden’s first 14 full months in office — lagging far behind his goal of 125,000 refugees a year.
    Annual corporate profits increased last year for the first time since 2018, topping $2.6 trillion and setting a new record.
    Homicides in U.S. big cities were up 6.2% from 2020 to 2021.
    The U.S. trade deficit grew by more than 34% and is on pace for a new record high.
    Crude oil production has increased by nearly 1%, with larger gains projected for this year.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2022/04/bidens-numbers-first-quarterly-update/

    Also, spending is down and the federal budget deficit is shrinking dramatically.

    I may have to revise Biden up to a ‘D’ from the failure grades I had given both him and the Con Man

    1. R Mac   3 years ago

      Turn yourself in for your crimes against children.

    2. Ronbback   3 years ago

      destroying the economy in the first place to get elected will make any change look good even when still worse than what was destroyed

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        Note that Shrike always pretends the Covid lockdowns never happened.

    3. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Also, spending is down and the federal budget deficit is shrinking dramatically.

      I can now tell my grandchildren I was alive when the biggest lie in history was told.

      1. Sevo   3 years ago

        If turd includes numbers they are either out-right lies or cherry picked such that (his TDS-addled bullshit above) if used by an honest person, they would prove the opposite of what turd is claiming
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

        https://www.crfb.org/blogs/no-president-biden-has-not-implemented-historic-deficit-reduction

        Deficit falling due to lower spending.

        Holy shit, you’re an idiot. And Sevo is following you around.

        1. JesseAz   3 years ago

          I like how you pretend supposed one time Covid spending is part of a regular baseline so you can utilize talking points defending the left. And then in the next thread claim you aren’t a leftist.

          This worked for Obama when he included TARP in the FY09 budget that he signed to claim deficit reduction against Bush.

          Idiots will fall for anything. But the true idiots will blindly push these things over and over. Good work shrike.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

            Is the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget “leftist”? Their mission is fiscal responsibility.

            Maybe you should contact them to persuade them to adjust their chart. It makes Trump look bad.

            NO FAIR!!!

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              Are you trying to blame Pelosi’s Covid bills on Trump again?
              You’ve had your ass handed to you so many times, but you keep coming back with the same dishonest garbage.

              I guess your boss at the fifty-cent factory figures this line of gaslighting is all you’ve got.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

                President Trump has Signed $4.7 Trillion of Debt into Law
                JAN 8, 2020 BUDGETS & PROJECTIONS
                During the 2016 campaign, we estimated then-candidate Trump’s campaign plans would add $5.3 trillion to the debt from 2017 to 2026 (assuming policies were enacted immediately). In this analysis, we show that President Trump has already signed into law $4.2 trillion of debt over a comparable budget window and $4.7 trillion from 2017 through 2029.

                https://www.crfb.org/blogs/president-trump-has-signed-47-trillion-debt-law

                Trump sucked BEFORE Covid!

                Blame Nancy! She tricked Trump!

                1. JesseAz   3 years ago

                  What was the voting totals Shrike? Why did you make your initial deficit reduction claim against 2020 instead of 2019 shrike?

                2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

                  Hold up.

                  “Trump’s campaign plans would add $5.3 trillion to the debt from 2017 to 2026 “

                  A then-candidate’s “campaign plans” would add only $2.3 trillion more over a 10 year period than the one-year $3 trillion 2021 deficit alone?

                  The whole thing is imaginary because none of that happened. But even if your imaginary example existed, it’d still be better than Obama.

                  I don’t think that outdated speculation is the gotcha you were hoping for.

                3. Sevo   3 years ago

                  If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
                  turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      3. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

        If you get some Sevo on you it will be hard to clean it off.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          Fuck off, pedophile.

        2. Sevo   3 years ago

          turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    4. Sevo   3 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar and a kiddie diddler, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit

      1. Union of Concerned Socks   3 years ago

        entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago

        He’s a member of Congress?

        1. Sevo   3 years ago

          turd is too stupid and too dishonest for that. turd lies.

    5. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

      I give you a grade of B+ for this exercise in #DefendBidenAtAllCosts advocacy. You might have gotten an A but you fell short of your usual standard by including this obvious wingnut.com lie:

      “Inflation roared back to the highest level in over 40 years. Consumer prices are up 9.7%. Gasoline alone rose nearly 72%.”

      As you have frequently pointed out, literally the only price increase has been the extra 10 cents per pouch of spittin’ tobaccy.

      #BestPresidentEver

      1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

        And that 10¢ increase is only transitory.

        1. MK Ultra   3 years ago

          Putinflation.

    6. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

      Today is a great day to turn yourself in to the FBI, paedophile.

      1. Hank Ferrous   3 years ago

        Or, conversely, find a victims’ of pederasty parents’ group, and approach them. I am certain that any inadvertent posting of cp would be acceptable with people whose children were sexually abused.

  40. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    Biden stumbled into the phrase “new world order” concerning NATO alignment on Ukraine and inadvertently set off the CT nutjobs:

    Within hours of his remarks, #NewWorldOrder was trending on Twitter. A flurry of posts suggested Biden’s usage of the phrase confirms the existence of a decades-old conspiracy theory that global elites will take over the world and establish an authoritarian one-world government.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/03/25/fact-check-biden-did-not-admit-new-world-order-conspiracy/7156937001/

    SOCIALIST ONE WORLD DERP ARGLE BARGLE SOROS HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP BENGHAZI!!!!!!!

    I ran across a Glenn Beck audio the other day. I had forgotten about that nutjob. He didn’t like Trump at first (not a real Christian) but is in the Trump Cult now.

    1. Sevo   3 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit

    2. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   3 years ago

      LOL can you believe how gullible those wingnuts are?! They’ll swallow any nonsense as long as it reinforces their beliefs.

      So anyway how’s the legal case against Drumpf going? We’re nearing the 1 year anniversary of your prediction:

      “The Dotard will join his convict team soon.” – Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2, May 23, 2021

      #Bombshell
      #TippingPoint
      #WallsClosingIn
      #BeginningOfTheEnd

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

        Despite all the close Trump team members that have been convicted I am told that a criminal conviction against the Head Con man would be difficult because a jury will have at least one Trump Cultist who would “OJ” him – find him not guilty out of spite to whitey.

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          “I am told”

          CNN or your morning Open Societies talking points pdf?

          It’s hilarious that you expect us to believe that a group who perpetrated open fraud to secure an impeachment vote, would balk at arranging a kangaroo court if they had anything.

        2. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          “a criminal conviction against the Head Con man would be difficult because a jury will have at least one Trump Cultist who would “OJ” him – find him not guilty out of spite to whitey”

          The obvious, blatant gaslighting in this comment alone is amazing

        3. Sevo   3 years ago

          turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar and a kiddie diddler, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  41. Bill Godshall   3 years ago

    China Covid-19 Lockdowns Spread Beyond Shanghai to Other Cities
    Forty-five cities that account for 40% of China’s economic output had implemented full or partial lockdowns as of Monday, by one tally
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-covid-19-lockdowns-spread-beyond-shanghai-to-other-cities-11649949817

    “Forty-five Chinese cities with a combined 373 million people had implemented either full or partial lockdowns as of Monday, a sharp increase from 23 cities and 193 million people a week earlier, according to a survey by Nomura. The 45 cities account for more than one-quarter of China’s population and roughly 40% of the country’s total economic output.”

    This lockdown will have huge economic impacts.

    1. Don't look at me!   3 years ago

      Why don’t they just work from home?

  42. Sevo   3 years ago

    “…It’s an odd demand since, as Wired notes, declining to accept donations in crypto wouldn’t actually reduce bitcoin’s electricity use.”

    Think masks: This is signaling.

  43. CE   3 years ago

    The Soviet Politburo had a habit of clinging to power too, but the US Senate has a higher reelection rate.

    1. CE   3 years ago

      Remember, most of the sources for the Chronicle’s report are professional Democrats. This isn’t partisan sour grapes.

      More like an opportunity for Newsom to replace her with a politically acceptable selection without waiting to leave it for the voters to decide. Remember the SF school board was already trying to remove Feinstein’s name from a public school because reasons.

  44. Dillinger   3 years ago

    >>America is being ruled by a gerontocracy.

    and wow are they manipulative assholes. that whole late 60s theme they pushed was total bullshit.

  45. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    Source: Trump’s record $3.1 trillion deficit has been cut down to $1.4 trillion under Biden but we can’t give Biden the credit for it.

    https://www.crfb.org/blogs/no-president-biden-has-not-implemented-historic-deficit-reduction

    I actually agree with this assessment. Trump was fucking awful but a return to normalcy shouldn’t get a POTUS more than a pat on the back.

    1. JesseAz   3 years ago

      It is amazing watching idiots push this talking point

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

        Why do you hate fiscal responsibility?

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          Why do you lie about Pelosi’s role, the unvetoable nature of the first bill and Trump’s refusal to sign two others.

          1. Sevo   3 years ago

            Because turd is a pathological liar. turn lies.

        2. JesseAz   3 years ago

          I’m for responsibility. I’m against your gaslighting.

    2. Sevo   3 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  46. ElvisIsReal   3 years ago

    “More than 200 longtime Wikipedia editors have requested that the Wikimedia Foundation stop accepting cryptocurrency donations,” reports Wired. Crypto donations make up just 0.1 percent of the Foundation’s total annual fundraising, but the group of editors are concerned about the environmental impact of bitcoin mining. It’s an odd demand since, as Wired notes, declining to accept donations in crypto wouldn’t actually reduce bitcoin’s electricity use.

    Especially ironic because bitcoin miners are ALWAYS looking for ‘free’ energy to power their miners. That’s why they are tapping a volcano, and burnt gas in oil fields.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/12/23-year-old-texans-made-4-million-mining-bitcoin-off-flared-natural-gas.html

  47. Marshal   3 years ago

    There’s a reason that American politics today feels so bereft of new ideas: Too many of the people at the top pretty clearly haven’t had one in a very long time.

    I don’t think much of linking this problem to age. Younger Democrats or left of Democrats haven’t had an idea other than “give money to people who vote for us” in a century. The only difference is that the youngers are so ignorant they think this is a new idea.

    1. mad.casual   3 years ago

      The only difference is that the youngers are so ignorant they think this is a new idea.

      Ignorant or foolish enough to think that (e.g.) “give bitcoin to people who vote for us”/”I got bitcoin for voting for someone” is substantively different.

    2. raspberrydinners   3 years ago

      I mean, if you distill it to such a bullshit take, sure.

      But the younger people have clearly more ideas than ever while our political parties are more of the same old shit that clearly doesn’t work.

      1. Bill Dalasio   3 years ago

        But the younger people have clearly more ideas than ever

        The overwhelming majority of which are different variations on “Give me free stuff and have somebody else pay for it.”

        It’s not that today’s youth necessarily have more ideas than prior generations. It’s that prior generations had the basic self-respect to keep their awful ideas to themselves.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   3 years ago

          It’s that prior generations had the basic self-respect to keep their awful ideas to themselves.

          The entitled generation of Boomers promoted the notion that indulgent behaviors cannot be shameful because they bring pleasure to justify their immaturity. The resulting attack on the time honored tradition of shaming has left their children bereft of even the notion of self-respect.

        2. defaultdotxbe   3 years ago

          We have more types of stuff today than past generations could ever dream of. Sure, ideas like free cell phones and free internet access didn’t exist 50 years ago, but that doesn’t make them new ideas.

        3. mad.casual   3 years ago

          Also, to borrow a phrase, “Have ideas in one hand and shit in the other and see which gets full first.”

    3. Longtobefree   3 years ago

      Well, we knew about all this in the early sixties:

      It is the evening of the day
      I sit and watch the children play
      Doing things I used to do
      They think are new
      I sit and watch
      As tears go by

      https://www.google.com/search?q=lyrics+as+tears+go+by&rlz=1C1AWFC_enUS829US829&oq=lyrics+as+tears+go+by&aqs=chrome..69i57.7336j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

  48. raspberrydinners   3 years ago

    There’s a minimum age limit for president.

    There should definitely be a maximum age for office as well (both president and Congress.) These old fucks might live another decade to see their changes that will span generations.

    1. Truthfulness   3 years ago

      “I want you to know that also I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent’s youth and inexperience.” – Ronald Reagan

      If you have to express your blatant ageism, do it on the ballot.

  49. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    Strom Thurmond and Roert Byrd.

    97 and 95?

    Too fucking old. Call me ageist.

    1. Sevo   3 years ago

      Call turd stupid and call turd a liar. tuird lies; it’s all he ever does. Turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      Turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

      We know you like them young, paedophile. Turn yourself in.

  50. Weigel's Cock Ring   3 years ago

    We absolutely need to amend the constuttion to allow the 25th amendment to be able to be applied to any federal officehomder when they need to be removed due to incapacity.

    We need this now more than ever given how stupid and uninformed left liberal democrats are.
    They’ll vote for someone who’s 79, 80, 88 or 100 years old because most of them have absolutely no fucking clue of what’s going on.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

      Mikey, how it the Hunter Biden Laptop fake scandal cooking?

      I hear it is pretty much a hoax. The copy of the hard drive that no one could see had files written on it after it was supposedly “dropped off” to that blind guy.

      Put Durham on it!

      BENGHAZI!!!!!!!! HERP DERP! ARGLE BARGLE!!! BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!
      NEW WORLD ORDER!!!!!!!!!!

      SOROS!!!!!!!! BILDERBERG!!!!!!

      1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

        ELON IS A NAZI FOR OPPOSING CENSORSHIP!!! MUH SPITTIN TABACCY!!! HUNTER BIDEN IS AN ARTIST!!! TRUMP COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA!!! JAN 06 WAS AN INSURRECTION!!! TRANSWOMAN ARE REAL WOMEN!!! TRUMP HAD A PEE PEE TAPE!!! ANTIFA IS AN IDEA!!! ADVANCED COURSEWORK IS RACIST!!! 1619 IS REAL HISTORY!!! WHITE RAGE IS THE PROBLEM!!! ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACIST!!! COVID AND PELOSI HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH BUDGETS!!! CASTRATING KIDS IS GOOD!!!

        ELON!!! QANON!!! A VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY!!!

        1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

          Now tell us again how inflation isn’t happening, but if it was it’s a good thing except for smokeless tobacco sales, Shrike. Don’t forget the drilling rig count too.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

            Never said that.

            I said that price increases were caused by accelerated demand and supply chain gridlock.

            1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

              Liar. You explicitly stated that, which moved to inferring when it became to obvious to outright deny.

            2. Sevo   3 years ago

              “Never said that.”

              turd lies.

      2. Weigel's Cock Ring   3 years ago

        Quit trying to change the subject you fat Ron Jeremy lookin’ pig. We’re talking about the gerontocracy and how bad it is for the country.

        And I’m not saying this, that the 25th amendment needs to be expanded, just now for the first time. I was saying the same exact thing back in early 2018 when John McCain couldn’t perform his job because he was at home dying and wouldn’t retire.

  51. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   3 years ago

    I hope Elon Musk buys Twitter.

    I know he has become a hero to conservatives recently.

    The same Elon who supports UBI and Cap and Trade.

    1. Mother's Lament   3 years ago

      Soros supports UBI. Are you sure that you’re allowed to slag it? Better email your boss.

    2. Sevo   3 years ago

      turd lies; it’s all he ever does. Turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      Turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. Salted Nuts   3 years ago

      I hope your fat ass trips down the next flight of stairs before you molest another kid.

  52. TangoDelta   3 years ago

    Hey, hey, hey! Stop being so ageist! There’s no law that prevents senile idiots from running for government positions. It’s the people’s choice no matter how incompetent the people they elect are. You get the government you vote for, not the intelligent logical people who could run government far better.

    Granted the intelligent, logical people who could run government far better are unlikely to seek government office and the choices are choosing the generally perceived least idiot.

    1. TangoDelta   3 years ago

      For proof see previous two presidential elections.

      Caveat, one election was rigged by russians according to team blue and the other was stolen according to team red. Oddly the media claims only one team is undermining the integrity of the electoral process which conveniently shows their colors.

  53. justme   3 years ago

    the constitution has limits on the lower end of age but nothing on the very important upper age. i think we need a constitutional amendment that sets an upper age for congress and the president. i would set the age at 70 years old. no one 70 or older could run for office in congress or president. yes there are some people who can do the job at 70, but most cannot.

    1. Truthfulness   3 years ago

      If a person is qualified, let him run regardless of age.

  54. alpha mower   3 years ago

    This situation happens a lot when we allow the barnacles of entrenched power to accumulate on the ship of state….
    People with unchecked power begin to believe that THEY are the only ones that can wield power effectively,,, no one else is capable.
    Teddy Kennedy was re=elected by Massachusetts,,,,he literally had a HOLE in his HEAD….!! Can anybody grasp the stupidity of Massachusetts??? He had a HOle in his Head!! And they re-eleccted him anyway.
    Now Diane Feinstein, 88 years old,,,, with her palsied hands clutched around the levers of control over the US “intelligence” community!!
    Danger Will Robinson.

  55. JasonT20   3 years ago

    Talking about gerintocracy without mentioning Chuck Grassley of Iowa running for re-election to a 6 year term when he will be 89 on election day? Of course, he seems to still have it together well enough to recognize that the grandstanding by his (much) younger GOP colleagues on the Senate Judiciary Committee was about getting on Fox News rather than actually vetting a Supreme Court nominee’s qualifications and temperment.

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