Georgia State Senator Introduces Bill To Cut Homeless Funds From Cities With Too Many Homeless
Perplexingly, the bill would also forbid grants from going to nonprofits, unless the local government meets the state's demands.

Homelessness is a persistent and unfortunate problem that's visible in any U.S. city of appreciable size. Since there are a number of factors that can lead somebody to become homeless, it stands to reason that there are also a number of legitimate ways to try to help. But a Georgia state senator's new proposal stands out as particularly draconian and unproductive.
The bill, titled the "Reducing Street Homelessness Act of 2022," was proposed by Carden Summers, a Republican. Specifically, the bill singles out funds from last year's American Rescue Plan that apportioned $5 billion for states to use toward rental assistance, homeless shelters, building low-income housing, etc. Under Summers' bill, "no funds received" under the program by any state agency "may be used for the construction or purchase of permanent supportive housing for the homeless."
The bill also ties any future grants to the explicit enforcement of "all state and local laws prohibiting unauthorized camping and sleeping in public." If passed, the law would go into effect on January 1, 2023. Beginning six months later, on July 1, "any municipality with a per capita level of homelessness…higher than the state average that refuses to enforce" the camping and sleeping-in-public laws "shall receive no further grants of any kind…for public safety." Even more brazenly, "no nonprofit located within such municipality shall receive such grants" until either the level of homelessness declines or the city in question enforces those laws to the state's satisfaction.
In essence, the bill would hold public funds hostage unless cities and towns accede to the state's demands. Putting aside the inherent difficulty in even accurately calculating the homeless population—let alone solving the variety of problems that can cause homelessness—it seems egregious to withhold funds from nonprofits due to factors that are completely out of their control.
Much of the news coverage surrounding the bill has focused on its absurdity. But there is a more pernicious element to it as well: While the bill bars funds from being used to build supportive housing, it contends that a city or town "may dedicate up to 25 percent of its Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant funds…to the creation of homeless outreach teams." The Byrne grant is a federal program "intended to support a range of activities to prevent and control crime and improve the criminal justice system." Indeed, the bill stipulates that homeless outreach teams should consist of police officers or "contracted security officers," as well as social services or mental health professionals, and should be concerned primarily with removing the homeless from the streets and into shelters.
While this may sound reasonable, even benevolent, there is a long and disturbing history of the negative consequences that can come from forcing interactions between police and the homeless. In New York City, even in the face of freezing temperatures, homeless people bristled at the idea that the mayor could force them into shelters against their will.
There is certainly not a one-size-fits-all solution to homelessness. For example, focusing only on the mental health issues that can lead to homelessness would ignore the zoning laws, which drive up costs and make housing unaffordable, that lead to the same result. But it should be up to an individual municipality to decide how it wants to utilize its resources in a way that best provides for the people within its borders. For a state to simply withhold funds not only from the cities and towns but from nonprofit organizations as well, on the basis that the state knows best, is not only unconscionable but also counterproductive.
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This actually makes some sense . The money spent on homeless "programs" in urban areas can be better understood as a jobs program for recent grads with useless majors to join non profits. Very little money actually goes to the actual homeless people.
Additionally, the homeless problem is endemic, it cannot be solved. You can help those on the margins but there will always be homeless. The amount of money being spent on this issue is staggering.
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Doesn't LA spend something like $80k per year on support services for each homeless resident? Seems like this is exactly the problem that this bill hopes to prevent.
It's probably too blunt of a mechanism but the principle is sound: "we're not going to help you get your problem under control until you show that you're serious about actually getting the problem under control."
And the homeless units they're building run on the order of $875k each.
You could buy four 2BR houses for each homeless person for that money, in Albuquerque.
Of course, I presume there's no way to build / buy units in other places and ensure that the homeless go and stay there...
exactly. You could easily solve the homeless problem for pennies on the dollar if all the homeless wanted to be helped.
It also seems like a valid observation that the places that spend the most on homelessness have the most homelessness. And I think the causality probably largely works that way. You can have as much homelessness as you are willing to pay for. And if you have nice weather you probably get more too.
as every economist will tell you, you get more of what you subsidize.
Plus nice weather is a factor. Losers from all over the country come to california to be homeless
Great idea...in the old days Towns told hobos to hit the road. If not then the homeless should be assisted by removal to a dedicated care facility (maybe an old military base) for detox, mental health support and so on. Clean up the cities and help these people who for the most part are on drugs and have mental issues. Giving them expensive housing to trash is stupid. Follow the money and you can see who is pushing this crap.
Homeless has become an industry. Did you know that The Clinton Foundation is starting again? If there was ever an example of Galas and Conferences convened to gather money and power dedicated to gathering money and power that's it. The best outcome they can point to is the impressive turn around in Haiti. I'm sure they will deal with homeless when they are up and running.
Hoovervilles are the consequence of laws making a crime of building homes and trading in substances people want to buy. Just as Republicans doubled down on anti-beer violence in 1929, so ecological national socialists seek to ban construction and even regulate remodeling out of existence. Hoovervilles, slums in general, are monuments to the altruistic initiation of force.
I would add that by spending money on the homeless you will attract more homeless, much like has happened in Kalifornia. Dude is trying to stop the cycle of homeless + money = more homeless.
In Seattle it's called Big Homeless. A lot of political clout, bodies available on request for protests or public events, and, as you point out, patronage jobs for the well-connected and their kids, their friends, their friends kids etc.,.
One non-profit was so bad they had to bust 'em. They were taking money from successful federal grant applications and using it to lobby STATE legislators in Olympia, for MORE MONEY. It was some TLA...BSD? EBS? I can't remember. (It was DESC.)
https://www.city-journal.org/seattle-homelessness
"When I spoke with Eleanor Owen, one of the original cofounders of DESC, she explained that the organization’s mission has shifted over the years from helping the homeless to securing government contracts, maintaining a $112 million real-estate portfolio, and paying a staff of nearly 900. “It’s disgraceful,” she said. “When we started, we kept our costs low and helped people get back on their feet. Now the question is: How can I collect another city contract? How can I collect more Medicaid dollars? How can I collect more federal matching funds? It’s more important to keep the staff paid than to actually help the poor become self-sufficient.”"
Didn't we just go over this with the San Francisco post? I guarantee there's no lack of funding for homeless programs there.
Libertarians for Government welfare?
San Fran spends 10s of thousands per homeless person. Seattle 50k per. LA 800k condos for homeless.
Why is this the government problem? If you want to help homelessness, go donate on your own to your favorite charity.
A large portion of the government grants to these organizations is merely sent back to support politicians themselves. It is graft.
Why is this the government problem?
'a Republican', duh.
The most effective method to combat homelessness is to give them a home. Even a very small studio apt goes a long way to helping them get back on their feet.
A simplified, blanket solution that has yet to work. Low income housing falls into the same category.
Assuming that the homeless encampments are mainly populated by those trying to get back on their feet is painfully naive; a much larger share is dumping their mortgage payments into their veins.
Giving a home to someone who lacks the motivation or means to maintain the free roof over his head creates its own massive set of problems.
So you're saying permanent tend cities are not a problem?
Spending 800k on a tiny room is ridiculous, so let's not do the Los Angeles solution, but refusing any housing at all is equally silly. You can still provide tiny apartments for a tiny fraction of that.
Whether government is funding this or it's the private sector is another topic entirely, because in the meantime we still have permanent tent cities. Just telling everyone to shuffle along isn't a real solution. Just blindly cutting off funds isn't a real solution either.
As an anarchist I don't want government funding this, but instant cold turkey is going to create more problem then is solves, with long term blowback repercussions when it fails. We need to be getting government out this area, but we need to do it in such a way that we're not salting the ground.
But I get the sense that a lot of you have the explicit goal of salting the ground just to spite the world.
So you're saying permanent tend cities are not a problem?
That's a mighty leap on the ol' jump to conclusions mat. I think we shouldn't blindly throw money at the problem and expect it to accomplish much of anything.
refusing any housing at all is equally silly. You can still provide tiny apartments for a tiny fraction of that.
If you simply provide them then there's no impetus for them to improve their station, and no incentive to avoid trashing the gift.
I think Sec.8 is the right framework in terms of public housing (insofar as it should exist), though there are certainly holes, a major one in this case being that it requires people to actively seek to not be homeless.
Just blindly cutting off funds isn't a real solution either.
Nobody's blindly cutting off funds here - they're seeking to make funds conditional on progress and to prevent the establishment of a homeless-industrial perpetual motion machine.
We need to be getting government out this area, but we need to do it in such a way that we're not salting the ground.
You're never going to alleviate homelessness without government involvement, because so much of the population is in that state for reasons of mental instability. And one lesson of history is that if the government doesn't seek to act as custodians of the mentally unstable then nobody will. I don't necessarily approve of that arrangement, but it is what it is: the mad will always end up in a hospital, a prison, or on the streets.
> You're never going to alleviate homelessness without government involvement, because so much of the population is in that state for reasons of mental instability.
Though you could probably put a hefty dent in the portion of it that was itself caused by the government by ending the War on Some Drugs.
Substance abuse issues are not resolved by supply chain increases.
I support legalization, but let's be realistic here.
> So you're saying permanent tend cities are not a problem?
I didn't see him say that at all.
Whether government is funding this or it's the private sector is another topic entirely
Uh, in what part of the world? Seriously, where in the world do you know someone who controls even 100 units of any size that says, "You can stay here and we'll worry about payment after you're gone."
Observe why "anarchist" means "lynch me" to everyone except other violently insane communists.
Give them yours.
See the other article today in Reason by a leftie in San Fran who disagrees. You are confusing the very small % of homeless who are down on their luck with the vast majority who are drug addicts and/or mental health issues. These folks need to be removed from the streets, removed from cities and brought to facilities for help. Say a rural old military base. Detox, hair cut, bath, perhaps some old time religion to clean their soul and a job when they leave.
And a job while they're there!
Build skills, work ethic and personal pride, all while NOT being a total parasite to society.
Christian National Socialism hasn't changed. Ironically, it was TR's Progressive prohibitionism that closed in on Germanic Big Pharma. The 1912 Opium Convention led to WW1 as soon as Germany sensed impending ratification. It got ratified after they lost. The 1925 version and 1927 tax liability wrecked Franco-German pharma profits and the 1931 Limitation Convention crashed Germany's banking system. Desperate, I.G. Farben shovelled money into Hitler's party and Germany left the League and its regulation of stimulants and narcotics.
They probably looked at places like Seattle, Portland, and SF and realized 'the more we spend on this, the more homeless people we get'.
Joe, is this a Libertarian publication or or a marxist dogma front? A State solution and enabling of a problem like you are demanding (through tone and phrasing if nothing else) is much more at home in the latter. The progs running these cities and non-profits make a living off of creating and extending these problems, not solving them, but you want more government funds shoveled at them without accountability or consequence? Fuck off you ignorant evil twat.
Be fair. Joe is trying to be a woke, post-Trump libertarian.
"left libertarians" are an extinct species..the von mises caucus will roll them over this year. Get a job at Salon or Slate Joe..you sure are no libertarian...
Another Kulturwar solution. Let's signal that we are cutting off funds for homelessness, while pretending we're fixing the problem.
If you just want to cut the funds, just cut the funds. Stop pretending you're doing anything other than that.
Not shocked you are apparently for government welfare for liberal pet projects.
As opposed to volumetrically increasing the funds for the homeless, while pretending we're fixing the problem. I'd rather not fix the problem for $3 instead of not fix the problem for $300,000,000.
Yeah, I never got the impression that anybody claimed to be fixing the problem. Just doing Not Nothing!™ about it for less money.
Translation: theft is property!
Hey Joe, did you read this?
https://reason.com/2022/02/25/audit-l-a-spending-as-much-as-837000-per-unit-of-housing-for-homeless/
DON'T CUT IT OFF! THAT'S COUNTERPRODUCTIVEISMISMING!
"any municipality with a per capita level of homelessness…higher than the state average that refuses to enforce"
I am intrigued by this metric, guessing it means any city which has homeless. I am guessing that most small cities in a state don't have homeless (or people recognized as homeless) so averaging those in mean any city that has recorded homeless is likely above average. So again, another way to stick it to larger cities.
Math from Lake Woebegone?
State average is likely to mean homeless per capita across the state as a whole, so Atlanta doesn't get swamped out by the average of the small cities' per capita figures.
that refuses to enforce
This is the key point: it's not that they're trying to keep money away from the cities, it's that they don't want to reward cities pleading for help while refusing to enforce existing measures.
"refusing to enforce"? How about "actively encouraging"?
State average is likely to mean homeless per capita across the state as a whole, so Atlanta doesn't get swamped out by the average of the small cities' per capita figures.
You're arguing statistical methodology with someone shouting "The law of averages is discriminatory!"
I've personally made the case that the practice of statistics is collectivist and racist, but this is just dumb.
They deserve it. Cosmo wokes have destroyed the country. All started when we forced Virginia Farmers to be en hoc to a NY City Stock jobber who was in hock to a London banker. (20 points if you know where that came from)
Hoovervilles tend to be smaller, also less encumbered with officious building inspectors and permit police. Ban beer, ban building, ban psychedelics, ban weed, ban trade, ban speech, ban jobs... and sprout Hoovervilles!
The supreme court has confirmed the death penalty.
Just make homelessness a capital offense, and shoot them all.
It's not much harder to clean up blood than feces.
If I yell at Tony for being a sociopathic fascist, I'll sure as shit point out there's more freedom in your name than your speech as well.
Inconvenience is not an excuse for murder.
I have to admit that this doesn't seem like a very libertarian solution either.
Non-libertarian solutions are popular with 96% of the people allowed to vote in subsidized-party federal elections--or whose votes actually make it to the counting stage.
The libertarian solution is simple: “get off my property or else”.
For a state to simply withhold funds not only from the cities and towns but from nonprofit organizations as well, on the basis that the state knows best, is not only unconscionable but also counterproductive.
Obviously the state capitol building should be open at night to let that city's homeless sleep and shower there.
The capitol is already funded and built with someone else's money. The idea is the best one yet if we rule out decriminalizing production and trade.
But it should be up to an individual municipality to decide how it wants to utilize its resources in a way that best provides for the people within its borders. For a state to simply withhold funds not only from the cities and towns but from nonprofit organizations as well, on the basis that the state knows best, is not only unconscionable but also counterproductive.
Bullshit.
funds are thrown... literally thrown at the homeless industrial complex with little to no metrics at all. For instance:
Seattle in the last few years has massively expanded how much public money the city spends on homelessness programs, from $50 million in 2015 to a planned $156 million in 2022.
The problem has gotten exponentially worse in this time. What's unconscionable and counterproductive is giving any shady group a few ten million dollars and expecting the problem to go away, let alone shrink.
If it's not 'counterproductive' to throw money at a serious problem and then watch it grow in scope and problem in direct relation to the money thrown at it, then we have very different definitions of 'counterproductive'.
*In scope and size
The more you pay to bring homeless to your town... the more homeless you get in your town
Something like $850,000 per unit built. Madness and waste.
Dummies Guide to Incentives
Subsidize and reward things you want more of. Tax and punish things you want less of.
Any questions?
Reagan talked a good talk.
I voted for Reagan after seeing his face on the cover of Reason captioned with The Drug ^LAW Problem. Never again did I vote for either half of the Looter Kleptocracy
Who is "you"?
You're concerned because someone is caught between 'helping' the homeless by subsidizing that lifestyle and a bureaucracy dependent on it's existence or trying to prevent Georgia's cities from becoming like San Francisco's (which are like that because they subsidize the homeless lifestyle) and some are choosing the latter?
*Whew!*. One sentence.
Is this supposed libertarian actually complaining that a government wants to spend less money on some useless bums?
As far as I'm concerned, the homeless are (or ought to be) breaking some law against trashing public places or camping on them. As such, they belong in prison. And those deemed too mentally incapacitated to take care of themselves belong in the madhouse.
Now, if you want to make it a little more "humane", then, okay, first, they belong in the shelter, then, they get offered a job that pays the lowest rent in town. If they refuse the job, then, they go to jail.
And, of course, Joe Lancaster and the rest of the pro-bums out here belong in Vox.
Many of them are legitimately incapable of normal, functional life.
But I bet they could work some basic job a few days out of the week at a work camp on the edge of town to at least contribute to their upkeep. May even have a means to change as well as a reason after a while.
It helps if you let them be addicts. I mean, at least for a while, but part of the issue with homeless shelters is that a lot of homeless don't want to go to them because they disallow substance use. Which, I absolutely understand why, but it does interfere with the goal of getting people out of tents on the sidewalk and into anywhere else.
One of the reasons a fair number of these people are even in towns is that's where you can panhandle for money for food and drugs, and acquire food and drugs. So, set up a camp and provide free food and drugs. If they weren't illegal and were bought in bulk, they'd be pretty cheap. Hell, even at retail, $830k would buy a lot of fucking food and drugs.
My whole goal is no free ANYTHING, but rather a guaranteed minimum opportunity to work in some capacity.
What people do with their earned wage is entirely none of my business.
Decriminalization reduces drug costs just as prohibition jacks them up roughly 400% (just add taxes and men with guns). Before Reagan and Nixon's GOP banned psychedelics, Hoovervilles were a distant memory.
Hobos go where they are welcomed. Don't welcome them and they won't come.
This is very, very simple. Listen close.
"When you subsidize something, you get more of it."
Make sense now?
A problem here is that residents in normal neighborhoods get what chi-chi politicians in subsidized mansions use someone else's money to order and pay for. Move the Hoovervilles to the intersection nearest the Governor's Mansion and Mayor's home and watch how fast things change.
Kinda makes sense to me; no more money to decrease homelessness unless you can show that you are actually decreasing homelessness.
You might not be able to force mentally ill and addicted homeless into mental health & rehab facilities, but you can enforce statutes against panhandling, vagrancy, camping, public nuisance, etc to the point where they find it easier to just move on to somewhere more welcoming.
Yeah, but ... enforcing these statutes only causes more paperwork for municipalities (and staff time) encompassing loss billing for fines levied against people who simply cannot pay. Spending a night (or two or three) in lockup just releases them back to the streets, or to underfunded (from whatever source) health facilities that can't usually support them for very long. There's really no incentive to 'move along' with that scenario, either. We need to find a better answer....
How about the negative consequences of interactions between homeless and tax paying home owners?
People are tired of homelessness in their towns. Of course camping and vagrancy should be prohibited, and tying it to state funding is the way state governments force localities to do something in our system.
Good idea. If you stop subsidizing it you will get less of it.
If you feed the pests you get more of them.
They did that in Los Angeles, Seattle, Philly, Sacramento, San Francisco, Portland etc...How that work out?
Cut the amounts of aid...Only have it available in warehouses far from the Downtown areas and Suburbia's.
This keeps crime, drugs and the gang members who sell the drugs away at a waaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper price.
NEVER feed them or help them at a park or they will never leave and litter the ground with trash, syringes and empty liquor bottles.
Good article. I'm not happy with the homeless situation we have today, either the number of homeless or the programs put in place to curb it. However, these state laws almost always make it worst because they tend to be punitive.