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Dispatch From Ukraine: 'Let's Go. Let's Not Go.'

A New Orleans native tells Reason what it’s like under siege in his adoptive home of Dnipro, Ukraine.

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Nikolaus Sires lives in Dnipro, Ukraine. Originally from New Orleans, he bought an apartment in Dnipro, where he lives with his Ukrainian fiancée, four months ago, because he found the people nice and the area peaceful. Then, in the middle of the night on March 3, he woke to news that the nuclear power plant in Zaporizhzhia was under attack.

"The Russian troops apparently just started shelling and mortaring a nuclear power plant, basically. Shooting at it; there's video," he said. "We thought the nuclear power plant might be blown up that night." 

Sires spoke to Reason's Nancy Rommelmann by phone while she was on the ground in Warsaw, Poland, on March 5. She is on her way to Lviv by train to Przemysl at the time of publication. Sires talked about being in Ukraine at the start of the war and what it's like to wonder if a nuclear power plant within an hour's drive might be melting down.

What follows is a transcript of his words, edited for length, clarity, and style.

"We wake up and just see people saying, 'Hey, they're attacking nuclear power plants.' That's what's on the news at 2:00, 3:00 in the morning. That's only 80 kilometers away; time to finish packing the bags. We stayed put because we're under curfew from 8:00 p.m to 6:00 a.m. You can't on the streets. I mean, they could consider you a saboteur or something and shoot you. We didn't have the option to leave, so we had to sit there and wait to see what happened.

"At this point we don't know if a bomb is going to fly this way. And it's becoming normal. I'm starting to see how Ukrainians get used to eight years of war and act like nothing's happening. Air raid sirens all day, telephone alerts. 'Hey alarm, go to the shelter!' And it's like, is it real this time? I mean, it's a nightmare. My fiancée's in another room trying to relax. Her mother [and daughter] live five kilometers away. Her mother doesn't want to leave. This is her home. 'Ukraine's my home. Why should I leave?' I mean, until they're dropping bombs in her neighborhood…maybe she'll change her mind when it's too late. That's how I see it. I keep telling my woman, 'Hey, you need to talk to your mom and say, "Do you want us all to die? Because you want to stay here?'" Nobody wants to leave mom behind. I understand that. I couldn't leave my mom behind, but it comes to the point you want to gag them and throw them in a car, to say, 'You're going, let's go.' The longer we wait, the more problems there are.

"There's been an eight-year war but [for many Ukrainians] it's almost like somebody in Montana saying, 'I don't see a problem on the Mexican border,' because they're not close to it. Maybe there's a problem in the Donbas region, but if you're not there, you don't hear the shelling. You don't know there's something going on because you don't see it so it's easy to disconnect from it. And I think a lot of Ukrainians that live away from the conflict can easily forget about it because it's not affecting them directly. There's this mentality here, that it'll be fine.

"Right now [in Dnipro] we're not getting attacked, but that could change at any minute as far as I'm concerned. I try to be optimistic, but I can see what's going on. It's not good. When the [first] attack happened on the…was it the 24th in the morning? 25th? We woke up at 7:00 in the morning and found out the airport had been bombed and some other buildings in Dnipro. It's just like that. You sleep and you wake up, you're in a war.

"I'm from New Orleans, Louisiana. I almost stayed for Katrina. I had a friend that talked me into leaving. He was like, 'You've got to go. It's going to be bad.' Because I've experienced hurricanes before, I know it can get bad. Her mother, I think she's about 65 or so, she probably never…I mean, you've had Soviet times, but she has never directly seen a conflict and doesn't understand that your house could be blown up tomorrow. We're seeing this stuff happen. Apartment buildings in Kiev and other cities. Rocket hits the building, you're in there, you're dead. It's over with.

"[Ukrainians] are a very strong resilient people and that's what I admire about them. They're very good at accepting what cards they've been dealt. If you go down to the center of town here, you see thousands of people making Molotov cocktails, donating food and medicine, stuff for troops to eat. They're making camouflage nets to hide equipment out in the field. Everybody's doing what they can do. They just pay attention to their surroundings and want to help.

DNIPRO, UKRAINE - MARCH 03, 2022 - People weave camouflage nets, Dnipro, eastern Ukraine

"I don't know what's going to happen. Not at all. I mean, just playing an odds game. We hear stories of people getting murdered trying to flee. I think this morning they blew up a rail line near Kiev and Irpin', so now the train can't go through there. They're blowing up bridges in certain places. We're worried getting on the road and just getting stuck somewhere, to be honest, or getting killed. We know we're safe here."

"I still want to go. Yes, definitely. We'll probably head to Poland. But we're looking at videos of the train stations here and it's like, how? My fiancée's car was in the shop and they were having problems getting parts since this war started. She's got an old Lada, a little Ukrainian-Russian car that's really not all that. And we're worried if the thing's going to break down on the side of the road. It's like, you try to formulate a plan, but there's so many holes in it. 

"We just don't want to wind up in a worse situation. We know we're good right now where we're at. We have supplies. Growing up in New Orleans, it's almost like preparing for a hurricane. We've got food. We have means to cook without electricity. We have means for lighting. We have medical supplies. Her mother, it's a necessity to buy her different medicines for her health, but that's one of the things we worry about. If we stay, what if we can't buy her medicine anymore? Then she's probably going to die anyway. Because that's where the lines are at right now. There are lines at every drug store and we have trouble finding ibuprofen, basically. What happens when it's something that we absolutely have to have that we can't find? It's my concern. In Ukraine, we don't have Walmart. You can't go to one store and buy everything you want. It's almost like a quest every day. I need to go here for potatoes. I need to go here for medicine. I need to go here for candles. I need to go here for batteries…and right now a lot of the stores are closed. We can't buy another cell phone right now. I mean, if your phone breaks, you can't go to the store and buy another one.

"I don't how to explain it. It's just…slowly I'm watching the necessities of life disappear because of this war, because obviously the supply lines are interrupted. And we don't know what's true. There's so much propaganda and stories that are on social media. We don't know if it's safe to leave. I feel like we could get shot on the road, because I've seen videos of people in their car just shot. And you could tell they're not soldiers, an older couple, a car full of bullet holes. It's like, I don't want that to be us.

"And we see it looks like Ukraine is putting up a hell of a fight and because all the aid coming in, as far as weapons and equipment. Russia's stalled out on the side of the road with no gas for the tanks and troops with no food. And then the nuclear thing. Is Putin going to nuke us just to get rid of Ukrainians? We watched his speech. He wants to get rid of Ukrainians. He doesn't like them. It's like the new Jews. It's scary.

"They told us to start making Molotovs. I have stuff to make Molotov cocktails. I've bought fireworks and hair spray so I can make bombs. I'm making bombs in my new apartment. That's the reality of this. 

"I was coming [to Dnipro] because I like it here. I could walk, go to the park. Food's cheap. The people are nice. These people are not aggressive. And to see this happening, it's just horrible. They're in denial that they have a war going for eight years. I'm trying to convince three Ukrainian women it's time to leave and none of them want to. Like in the morning, my fiancée wants to leave. By the nighttime, 'I think we should stay.' That's my life for two weeks now, 'Let's go. Let's not go.'" 

 

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    2. This.
      It's always good to see a Rommelmann article.

      1. Amen and godspeed.

    3. Hell yeah; when the going gets tough, send in the Nancy [and you'll actually know, from actual reporting, what the hell is going on]!

      1. Exactly true. And, unlike many journalists, she's headed there.

  2. The war is anything but organic. Instead, it’s the crescendo of the NWO dialectic as it will manifest gargantuan systemic problems demanding systemic foundational solutions.

    The war will destroy supply chains even further than they already are, wreaking absolute havoc. Currencies - already on their last legs - will be deliberately hyper-inflated away all over the globe in order to pay for it. Etc.

    Everyone will be demanding something be done and the pre-planned solutions will be one-world-government and CBDCs (Central Bank Digital Currencies). These CBDCs will link with your social credit score and carbon output in order to determine your eligibility - in real time - to participate or not participate in the economy.

    Red vs blue, east vs west, these dichotomies exploit people's innate tribal nature - dividing and conquering them - making them easy to control with simple thoughts about “the enemy” who isn’t really their enemy - while blinding them to the actual enemy behind the curtain pulling the puppet strings. If we could collectively recognize this for what it is the NWO wouldn’t stand a chance.

    The globalists now have the technology to do away with the left versus right control system, and so they’re angling in for full control at an individual level - from the inside out. We have to be aware of this in order to prevent it from happening.

    Here is how far they’ve brought us, and where they want to take us:

    https://tritorch.com/boiling

    As a solution we need to get working on a parallel economy and means of exchange yesterday. But since yesterday is behind us—let’s get to work on it today instead. Right now, actually. It is time we stopped using our enemy’s control system and built our own version instead - free from anyone's control.

    Put your ideas for how this can best be accomplished underneath this comment. (Cutting out reliance on a retailer might be a good place to start thinking about this.)

    Let's get to work building a future worth living in, because if we do not we will not have one.

    1. Your parallel economy will be outlawed.

    2. You running for Miss America?

      Rambling bullshit.

    3. “Etc.”

      This was my favorite part of your comment.

      1. Same. That was a shameless shortcut but regardless it fit right in there.

        1. That’s pathetic.

          1. Point me to something you’ve written that you think is worth reading and let’s discuss it

  3. Progressivism is all about using the coercive power of government to force people to make sacrifices for what they say is the greater good. I am not a progressive. I'm a libertarian capitalist, and it seems to me that forcing our fellow Americans to pay higher gas prices by way of the government formally banning the import of Russian oil isn't in our best interests--even if Putin failing in the Ukraine is in our best interests.

    If Biden succumbs to pressure and signs off on a congressional call to ban imports of Russian oil, I hope he at least undoes his opposition to the Keystone pipeline and undoes his freeze on drilling on public lands. Whatever we do in the Ukraine, it should only be because it's in our best interests to do so, and it is not in our interests to increase the cost of energy for average Americans for the benefit of the people of the Ukraine.

    If Biden wanted to turn the American people against helping the Ukrainians, he might not find a better way than to use the government to force Americans to sacrifice their standard of living on behalf of the Ukrainians by jacking up the price of energy amid already high inflation. We need Biden to stop restricting production on public lands--not restrict which barrels of oil we can buy.

    1. "If Biden succumbs to pressure and signs off on a congressional call to ban imports of Russian oil, I hope he at least undoes his opposition to the Keystone pipeline and undoes his freeze on drilling on public lands."

      Hell no. He wont. That doesnt allow pushing the GND!

      But you know that already.....

      Just start Houston back up. We have more oil than we know what to do with.

    2. I'm a libertarian capitalist...

      *snort*

      1. I thought that would get you.

      2. Hihn used to throw in those ‘snorts’, ‘smirks’, and so on. It fits that you’re carrying on his mantle.

        1. If he "chortles" kill him.

    3. "Progressivism is all about using the coercive power of government to force people to make sacrifices for what they say is the greater good."

      You forgot the part about how superior progressive intellect and morality defines the greater good and justifies coercion.

      I have never met a progressive who did not think they know better than everyone else. True, many other people think the same, but few connect elitist superiority and claims to authoritarian mandates while claiming it is for the greater good.

      1. I have never met a progressive who did not think they know better than everyone else.

        Ken's a progressive? Because he's made it pretty darn clear that he knows better than everyone else. Well, everyone who disagrees with him anyway. Because his only possible explanation for disagreement is a mix of inferiority and evil.

        1. Have you noticed how even though most of us disagree with Ken on NATO right now, but we don't utterly despise him like we do you?
          There's a reason for that. If you could figure out why, you might not be so roundly hated.

          1. Sarcasmic is too dumb to understand your point. Outside of Nardz most have been civil in disagreements with Ken.

          2. I’ve seen a lot of Ukraine commentary with which I’ve disagreed. But it’s a complicated subject, with no clear or easy answers. I respect most of the things people are saying that I didn’t agree with.

            Of course there are the usual exceptions…….

        2. Ideas! To think you run from thread to thread crying about how everyone is mean to you but this is your contribution in most threads.

        3. There's a vast difference between acting on your superiority with coercion, and merely stating your opinion.

        4. Ken, even when he’s wrong, operates under the assumption that individuals are the best people to make choices for that individual. Now he may opine on why he thinks his idea is the best route for individuals on any given subject, but it’s pretty obvious to anyone that he doesn’t think coercion and force are the way to get people to agree with him.

          Which is the exact opposite of what most progressives do.

          Glad I could clear that up for you.

    4. None of these proposals will provide a quick response to the Ukrainian situation, though they will fuck us up long term on the climate. There are over 9,000 permits for drilling not being used by petroleum companies here.

      1. You mean the thousands that are in stasis because of Biden's ban on drilling on public lands?
        https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/climate/carbon-biden-drilling-climate.html

        1. "judge blocked the government from weighing the cost of climate damage in decisions"

          Emblematic of the political dispute on pollution / negative externalities / econ 101... "freedom to force others to subsidize costs" as "liberty".

        2. The article is about permits. There are over 9.000 existing permits where no drilling is going on.

          1. So now you're off the masks and onto petroleum and drilling.

            Just curious; what troll farm do you get your talking points from?

            1. I wager a six-pack OSF/DNC/Media Matters/Progress Democrats.

      2. Also, who's better on the environment. North American oil producers or Venezuela, Nigeria, Russia, Iran and the Saudis?

        Closing down North American production meant increased global demand from countries whose environmental best practices were non-existent. Shutting down Keystone and fracking and drilling on Public land was a frivolous fashion statement that cost billions and was actually worse for the environment.

        1. Biden didn't close down NA oil production, covid did, it happened during Trump's watch, and is growing back to pre-covid numbers.

          "U.S. oil firms slashed production in 2020 as the coronavirus pandemic destroyed demand and supply has not yet recovered to pre-Covid levels. In 2019, the U.S. produced 12.29 million barrels of crude oil per day, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

          That figure was 11.28 million in 2020 and is estimated to be 11.18 million in 2021 and 11.85 million in 2022."

          1. Yes, demand fell in 2020 largely due to government mandates and shutdowns. And by the way you left out the part about Biden revoking the permit for the TC Energy Corp "Keystone" pipeline, which he vowed to do throughout his campaign.

            Yay for "climate change," only now we've been funding Putin's war machine.

      3. How will this fuck us up long term on climate?

        1. Maybe he thinks the climate cares whether the oil we burn is pumped in the U.S. or Russia.

          The oil I was talking about producing here in the U.S. (and Canada) is a substitute for burning other oil.

          If Biden's objective is to push the average price of a gallon of gas above $5.00 a gallon, for climate change, he should say so.

          There's an election in November.

          1. And has the benefit of not needing to be transported as far, thus making it even *more* efficient.

          2. It does seem to dovetail nicely into the climate change agenda he has, yes. I cannot see him saying this in public unless goaded, his stupidity aside.

        2. By increasing CO2. The Ukrainian crisis will not last forever and climate change will be more adverse than it is.

    5. Whether or not he bans imports of Russian oil he should be authorizing the Keystone pipeline, fracking, and any other methods of increasing domestic oil supply. Even if we continue buying from the Russian, if we increase the supply and become and alternate supplier to Europe, we're driving down the oil prices Putin is relying on. It's to the benefit of the US and the detriment to Russia without any overt hostility.

      1. The logical consistency and simplicity of this argument makes it so compelling that there is no chance of the Biden administration acting on it.

        1. In fairness it does require omitting the pollution aspect from the logical calculus in order to achieve the simplicity...

        2. You assume that the Democrat's desire to shut down Keystone was logical, or at least is based on the same premises and goals as Thinking Mind's is.

  4. https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1500523777335209987?t=1qGj8H8oKU-cnwLeMpvhGQ&s=19

    JUST IN - NATO countries have "green light" to send fighter jets to #Ukraine, says U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

    1. Good thing they're under no obligation to listen to him.

    2. Well guys, it's been fun, for the most part.

      1. See you on the other side!

      2. If Blinken and company actually look at starting WW3 then the entire administration must be removed. FFS this is bad.

        I’ve been saying for over a decade that we need to get rid of the democrats. Kw this is where we are.

    3. Did they need his permission?

    4. We are truly fucked.

  5. More Meltdown Hysteria?

    Yes

    Reactors are hardened agaibst bombs. I know scientists and engineers that design such.

    Commercial power reactors in US and others, are designed to withstand a direct hit from a loaded commercial jetliner...fuel and all.

    Meltdown does NOT come from outside. It is not from damaging Balance of Facilities buildings. Loss of generators and cooling water, maybe, but not from small arms explosion outside. Loss of cooling water is what led to Fukushima.

    This is just anti nuke activist hysteria.

    1. That and whatever that was on fire was a tertiary building. Ukraine's government tried to pull us into war by lying about this whole mess.
      Remember, kids: Government are at their most dangerous during wars.

      1. Especially when both the party in power and the opposition party are buying into the same narrative. Even if it's not perfidious, the lack of principled opposition makes it more likely to accidentally trample rights. When there IS a motivated reasoning, it's guaranteed to trample individuals in pursuit of broader goals.

        1. It's just like covid, but turned up.
          When the media speaks in one voice, the people get fucked.
          Russia isn't our enemy, Ukraine isn't our friend, but leftists/globalists are an imminent threat in the process of destroying us all.

          1. Cascading headlines that all reflect a narrative have been a fixture of the mainstream for at least two decades.

    2. "Reactors are hardened against bombs. I know scientists and engineers that design such."

      Were they the guys who designed Chernobyl?

    3. Maybe a modern AP1000 would be ok, but the older reactors have vulnerabilities if the cooling system external to the containment structure is disabled. They were not designed to survive war.

      1. Cite?

      2. Weird how you have an opinion on another matter, about which you know absolutely not a gods' damned thing.

  6. https://twitter.com/brandondarby/status/1500309304653623297?t=Mfja9G0qAC-ierpQHL5gYw&s=19

    Here you go, folks advocating for a US war. You can go fight Russia in Ukraine. One-way flight from NYC to Poland for less than $400. It leaves Monday. Just land and make your way east. Or you don’t really want to go to war, you meant send my kid to war?
    [Link]

    “Hey, I really think we should send your kid to go die in Ukraine in a few years.”

    ???????????? That’s what they’re saying without saying it.

    1. I'm surprised you haven't claimed the guy Nancy interviewed is fake yet.

        1. I mean you did just claim three days ago that you thought Ukraine was inflating its civilian casualties (at the time they claimed between 2-6k) despite numerous visual evidence, much of it coming live via social media, as some kind of Ukrainian conspiracy to manufacture sympathy.

          Let's not pretend that didn't happen.

          Let's also not pretend you and Geiger didn't get so worked up arguing against me that you began arguing against the premise of the 2nd amendment and Ukrainians justification to defend themselves.

          That happened too lol.

          1. It didn't happen. I said Ukraine officials and western media were inflating Russian casualty figures. Go look it up.

            1. I do wonder how things will look in the coming years. Right now the truth is obscured by propaganda from everywhere. We can only hope things do not escalate further.

          2. Let's also not pretend you and Geiger didn't get so worked up arguing against me that you began arguing against the premise of the 2nd amendment and Ukrainians justification to defend themselves.

            This never happened.

      1. Then go over there yourself help out or support people who do. You can be against war while also supporting the affected people in Ukraine without using the state to coerce others to do so.

        1. I've already donated nearly 2k to their humanitarian efforts.

          And how is flying some drones around to blow up Russian convoys coercing anyone but an inanimate machine?

          1. I've already donated nearly 2k to their humanitarian efforts.
            You have my respect.

            And how is flying some drones around to blow up Russian convoys coercing anyone but an inanimate machine?
            I inferred more than I should have there, so I'm sorry. However, I think that's bad for another reasons.

          2. $2k to Ukrainians...
            Might have used that money to help your countrymen, but it is your decision.

          3. Who provided the drones? Who provided the training on the drones? Who is 'piloting' the drones? Who is providing support and maintenance for the drones? Other than the fact that cruise missile/artillery/drone warfare or diplomacy is shitty, cowardly, and the hallmark of the 'think globally. act locally' cop out crowd, there is no act of war that has zero strings attached. Further, ground cannot be controlled from the air. It cannot even be effectively be denied, except in the minds of pilot types and noncombatants. Targets can be taken from the air, in acts of war.

      2. Do you also know who "they" refers to in this sentence: "You can't on the streets. I mean, they could consider you a saboteur or something and shoot you."?

        1. Yes, the Ukrainian army.

          Hes clearly talking in the context of if he violates the curfew though. Not when it's outside the curfew hours.

    2. Also, with all the unmanned technology our military has...

      Why does everyone act like American blood needs spilled on Ukrainian soil if we get involved?

      I've said numerous times, why don't we just paper sale some drones to Ukraine? Russia won't know who's flying them. Russias military is so shitty they can't even detect the slow moving, short range, Turkish drones Ukraine already has.

      So why is everyone against any intervention, like yourself, always bringing up the strawman that any help provided to Ukraine = American boots on the ground?

      1. If the Russian government does indeed decide to conquer the entirety of Ukraine instead of the parts that are most relevant to its goals, then I they'll be repossessing all the "lethal aid" the U.S. government sends there. Boy, I wonder where I've seen this play out before?
        Russia has significantly more firepower than Ukraine, and it's clear that Putin et al. have shown restraint and haven't brought out the big boys yet. (Thank God.) The only way to truly win with American help--insofar as repelling the invasion--is American men and women to be on Ukrainian soil. But at that point, is it worth the cost in lives and money the U.S. doesn't have?

        1. Did you not hear of that "40 mile long convoy" yet?

          The one that's lined up single file, moving slowly, and full of soft targets like diesel tankers?

          Yeah... No boots wouldve been needed to cripple that. A few well placed hits on their diesel supply and a few disable machines along the way wouldve basically halted their entire operation. Then the Ukrainian army could pick them off like scavengers on wounded animals.

          1. Such an action would mean that the U.S. government further entangles itself with this proxy war.
            Putting that aside, I don't trust the Ukrainian government with any weapons and military devices sent to them, nor do I trust "our" government to be a responsible giver. I'm also skeptical of the efficacy of the attack assuming it's actually pulled off.

            1. Like Afghanistan anything we give to Ukraine will end up in Russian hands, same as the CCP got what was left in afghanistan

          2. DID..... not could.

            That was NOT the doing of a State military.

            Thats barely Amateur Hour. Thats a Biden- Democrat type fuck up.

          3. Someone's been drinking the kool-aid that we can somehow intervene with our military without facing backlash. We aren't bombing a couple camel jockeys in Bumfuck, Egypt. You are talking about direct military actions against a nuclear armed nation, with near peer military capabilities. Also, stop buying the nonsense that Putin is stymied, from what I can tell Russia hasn't lowered the hammer, and is trying to keep this contained. The same people who are telling us Russia is stymied are the same people who told us Russia colluded with Trump to steal the 2016 elections.

            Yes, Putin may have thought Ukraine would fold, and it's taking him longer to win than he planned on, but so far based on casualty number (what you can believe of them) it's been a pretty low intensity invasion. Based upon the images, it doesn't even appear Putin has deployed his best equipped and trained divisions. We aren't seeing T-72, T-80, T-95, or T-14 tanks, we are seeing T-64, which even in the 1980s were relegated to second tier divisions. He's saving the best for a war with NATO if it happens. It's a slow ratchet what he is doing. Russia has an armed forces of 1.1 million people, with 772 fighter aircraft. In comparison Ukraine military at the start was 200,000 with 69 fighter aircraft. If Russia bad wanted to, they could have crushed Ukraine in a couple days. Instead, they have not brought the hammer down.

      2. Because it never stops at “just some drones”.

      3. I am so tired of this bullshit, any US military involvement will result in a full scale war with Russia. Fuck we aren't talking Syria or Libya here, we are talking a large, near peer military rival with an intelligence agency that rivals our own (probably better). There is no low key NATO involvement, we are probably pushing it with selling arms (definitely if we send in aircraft, after Russia's last warning). The idiots who believe that we can fight the Russians without boots on the ground are absolutely living in an alternative universe.

        We haven't fought a near peer in 80 years and it sure shows with the level of intellectuals claiming a no fly zone, or surgical strikes will somehow not result in open conflict.

      4. I'm with you on the drones. They could scatter Aluminum confetti to jam RADAR, use transmitters to jam fighter plane radios, and carry explosives against ground targets and HALO paratroopers. They could also drop psy-war leaflets of hawt Russian Chicks, Dudes, and Trannies on Putin's troops to demoralize them.

    3. Tell you fucking kid that the services aren't a redneck jobs program.

    4. The democrats aren’t even that competent. It will go nuclear. We should have exterminated our leftists a long time ago.

      Their lives aren’t worth all of this.

  7. https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1500495436930506754?t=pM4SL3eUiQEIZamQu6834A&s=19

    Good point. The companies don’t have a relationship with the country; they have a contract with individual citizens. That’s aside from the dubious morality of this—and the fact that it’s a clear precursor to large-scale use of this tactic domestically.

    "@CarolineGlick
    I'm trying to figure out the legal basis for Visa, Mastercard and the rest of the private companies deplatforming the entire population of an entire country. The companies aren't sides in a legal dispute either with the Russian government or population. So what is their cause?"

    1. PrIvAtE cOmPaNy

      1. Covid was step one in normalizing corporatist fascism, this is step 2. They are normalizing companies holding large moral power over people.

    2. Putting aside the legalities, it's just morally wrong.

      1. "Fascism for freedom!"

        1. Certainly the motto for the last few years.

    3. And it's scary because it's one stop removed from denying service to people in the US who are deemed to be "Russian supporters." And when most of the media is in the tank for one party, that makes it very easy to frame the other party as being Russian stooges. They sold a narrative that Trump was a Russian stooge for over 4 years and weaponized the FBI and every possible political process against him, when it was invented by his campaign opponent. Most people who believed it then still believe it now, too.

      So if you start labeling groups you don't like as traitors supporting the Russian war effort, there's going to be a lot of political pressure to shut down any manner of them getting money. We just saw it in Canada for people who did nothing except honk their horns obnoxiously.

      1. We just saw it in Canada for people who did nothing except honk their horns obnoxiously.
        Excuse me, sir, it's all about Russia now. You're supposed to forget about that. You're also supposed to forget about the lockdowns, mask mandates, and coercing people into trying gene therapy.

      2. "And when most of the media is in the tank for one party, that makes it very easy to frame the other party as being Russian stooges."

        That was the Democrat Party and their Lap Dog Media during and post Trump, thus proving your point.

  8. https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1500474178180456453?t=hVtrjRPlr9rerr907_Zp9g&s=19

    BREAKING: For the first time in eight years, the U.S. average gasoline retail price has surged above the $4 per gallon barrier, according to data from the AAA motoring club.

    1. I paid $4.29 today. Ouch.

      1. But no more mean tweets, right asshole?

    2. $5 average by April 1, no foolin'.

    3. https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1500490371171860483?t=OkqSTHPEEJHRfYXQc9IrnA&s=19

      From conversations with randoms at gas stations, I don’t think the “just shut up and get ass blasted at the pump for freedom” messaging is going over too well

    4. It is odd how Republicans see gas price as the sole indicator of how well a president is doing only during Democratic administrations.

      1. Face it, SleepyJoe is a failure.

      2. "Republicans see gas price as the sole indicator"

        They don't, it's only one of thousands of other indicators that your insane woke death cult is destroying America.

        It's notable however, because it happens to be one that immediately affects the proles living standards and makes life difficult, and one that could have been avoided if not for meaningless and stupid environmental virtue signaling last year around pipelines and public land drilling.

      3. Not as odd as you pretending not to understand how domestic policy can push oil and other commodity prices higher.

      4. Tell me you don’t understand 2nd and 3rd order effects without saying it.

      5. There are plenty of indicators. Afghanistan, the southern border, capitulation to China, inflation, crime, CDC corruption and incompetence, mismanagement of the transportation fiasco, Ukraine, and so many, many more things. Biden is a spectacular failure. Case closed.

      6. 'Sole indicator.'

  9. https://twitter.com/realjuliasong/status/1500542809652215808?t=8GBX7CF9m0JLqKnHF0-RLg&s=19

    When the gvmt forces us to buy only electric cars, but we forgot to attend our weekly racial and gender bias reeducation group meeting
    [Link]
    “You didnt pledge your loyalty and alliance to transgender rights this morning beep beep bop. The gvmt of the United States therefore prohibits me from taking you to get groceries. Beep beep. Donate half your salary to gender equity causes and we can go otherwise i’ll self destru

    1. Gas cars have the same capability, (new ones ).

  10. Here's the Russian NRA connection who was befriended by many on the right.

    "Maria Butina makes a video encouraging people to draw a white "Z" on their lapel to show solidarity with the invasion of Ukraine."

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1499593405755654144

    1. WTF are you talking about. Why don’t you address the issue of you being a commie shitweasel?

  11. To quote Joe Biden, "Go Get Him."

    1. To paraphrase the shotgun enthusiast and elder abuse victim, "This is a big fucking deal."

    2. He thought he was talking to Spider-Man after their kiss, with the full sentence as “Go get ‘em tiger!”.

  12. The weapons being sent to Ukraine are being delivered to neo Nazis by their Jewish president.

    There’s a Jew inside every Nazi, like peanut butter and chocolate.

    I’ve demonstrated proof that the Jewish president of Ukraine is arming and advocating neo Nazis. Jews and Nazis working together again just like old times.

    The west is sending them weapons and their brainwashed youth to fight in Nazi battalions. Which Nazis ass is your head up?

    This February 24, when Russian President Vladimir Putin sent troops into Ukrainian territory on a stated mission to "demilitarize and denazify" the country, US media embarked on a mission of its own: to deny the power of neo-Nazi paramilitaries over the country's military and political sphere. As the US government-funded National Public Radio insisted, "Putin's language [about denazification] is offensive and factually wrong."

    In its bid to deflect from the influence of Nazism in contemporary Ukraine, US media has found its most effective PR tool in the figure of Zelensky, a former TV star and comedian from a Jewish background. It is a role the actor-turned-politician has eagerly assumed.

    But as we will see, Zelensky has not only ceded ground to the neo-Nazis in his midst, he has entrusted them with a front line role in his country's war against pro-Russian and Russian forces.

    Behind the corporate media spin lies the complex and increasingly close relationship Zelensky's administration has enjoyed with the neo-Nazi forces invested with key military and political posts by the Ukrainian state, and the power these open fascists have enjoyed since Washington installed a Western-aligned regime through a coup in 2014.

    In fact, Zelensky's top financial backer, the Ukrainian Jewish oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, has been a key benefactor of the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion and other extremists militias.

    Backed by Zelensky's top financier, neo-Nazi militants unleash a wave of intimidation

    Incorporated into the Ukrainian National Guard, the Azov Battalion is considered the most ideologically zealous and militarily motivated unit fighting pro-Russian separatists in the eastern Donbass region.

    With Nazi-inspired Wolfsangel insignia on the uniforms of its fighters, who have been photographed with Nazi SS symbols on their helmets, Azov "is known for its association with neo-Nazi ideology…[and] is believed to have participated in training and radicalizing US-based white supremacy organizations," according to an FBI indictment of several US white nationalists that traveled to Kiev to train with Azov.

    Igor Kolomoisky, a Ukrainian energy baron of Jewish heritage, has been a top funder of Azov since it was formed in 2014. He has also bankrolled private militias like the Dnipro and Aidar Battalions, and has deployed them as a personal thug squad to protect his financial interests.

    In 2019, Kolomoisky emerged as the top backer of Zelensky's presidential bid. Though Zelensky made anti-corruption the signature issue of his campaign, the Pandora Papers exposed him and members of his inner circle stashing large payments from Kolomoisky in a shadowy web of offshore accounts.

    In March 2019, members of the Azov Battalion's National Corps attacked the home of Viktor Medvedchuk, the leading opposition figure in Ukraine, accusing him of treason for his friendly relations with Vladimir Putin, the godfather of Medvedchuk's daughter.

    Zelensky's administration escalated the attack on Medvedchuk, shuttering several media outlets he controlled in February 2021 with the open approval of the US State Department, and jailing the opposition leader for treason three months later. Zelensky justified his actions on the grounds that he needed to "fight against the danger of Russian aggression in the information arena."

    Next, in August 2020, Azov's National Corps opened fire on a bus containing members of Medvedchuk's party, Patriots for Life, wounding several with rubber-coated steel bullets.

    Breaking! A bus carrying supporters and members of #Ukraine's opposition party "Patriots For Life" was attacked by Ukrainian National Corps and Azov Battalion in the east of the country (Kharkov), unconfirmed reports that some of the passengers have been murdered. pic.twitter.com/O0hB2sqbRA

    Zelensky failed to rein in neo-Nazis, wound up collaborating with them Following his failed attempt to demobilize neo-Nazi militants in the town of Zolote in October 2019, Zelensky called the fighters to the table, telling reporters "I met with veterans yesterday. Everyone was there – the National Corps, Azov, and everyone else."

    A few seats away from the Jewish president was Yehven Karas, the leader of the neo-Nazi C14 gang.

    During the Maidan "Revolution of Dignity" that ousted Ukraine's elected president in 2014, C14 activists took over Kiev's city hall and plastered its walls with neo-Nazi insignia before taking shelter in the Canadian embassy.

    As the former youth wing of the ultra-nationalist Svoboda Party, C14 appears to draw its name from the infamous 14 words of US neo-Nazi leader David Lane: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

    By offering to carry out acts of spectacular violence on behalf of anyone willing to pay, the hooligans have fostered a cozy relationship with various governing bodies and powerful elites across Ukraine.

    A March 2018 report by Reuters stated that "C14 and Kiev's city government recently signed an agreement allowing C14 to establish a ‘municipal guard' to patrol the streets," effectively giving them the sanction of the state to carry out pogroms.

    As The Grayzone reported, C14 led raid to "purge" Romani from Kiev's railway station in collaboration with the Kiev police.

    The C14 Nazi terror gang signed an agreement with the Kiev municipal government to patrol its streets. This footage taken just a few months later in 2018 shows them carrying out a pogrom against a Romani camp. pic.twitter.com/9aAA86K8TQ

    Not only was this activity sanctioned by the Kiev city government, the US government itself saw little problem with it, hosting Bondar at an official US government institution in Kiev where he bragged about the pogroms. C14 continued to receive state funding throughout 2018 for "national-patriotic education."

    Karas has claimed that the Ukrainian Security Serves would "pass on" information regarding pro-separatist rallies "not only [to] us, but also Azov, the Right Sector and so on."

    "In general, deputies of all factions, the National Guard, the Security Service of Ukraine and the Ministry of Internal Affairs work for us. You can joke like that," Karas said.

    Throughout 2019, Zelensky and his administration deepened their ties with ultra-nationalist elements across Ukraine.

    After Prime Minister attends neo-Nazi concert, Zelensky honors Right Sector leader

    Just days after Zelensky's meeting with Karas and other neo-Nazi leaders in November 2019, Oleksiy Honcharuk – then the Prime Minister and deputy head of Zelensky's presidential office – appeared on stage at a neo-Nazi concert organized by C14 figure and accused murderer Andriy Medvedko.

    Zelensky's Minister for Veterans Affairs not only attended the concert, which featured several antisemitic metal bands, she promoted the concert on Facebook.

    Also in 2019, Zelensky defended Ukrainian footballer Roman Zolzulya against Spanish fans taunting him as a "Nazi." Zolzulya had posed beside photos of the World War II-era Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera and openly supported the Azov Battalion. Zelensky responded to the controversy by proclaiming that all of Ukraine backed Zolzulya, describing him as "not only a cool football player but a true patriot."

    In November 2021, one of Ukraine's most prominent ultra-nationalist militiamen, Dmytro Yarosh, announced that he had been appointed as an advisor to the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Yarosh is an avowed follower of the Nazi collaborator Bandera who led Right Sector from 2013 to 2015, vowing to lead the "de-Russification" of Ukraine.

    A month later, as war with Russia drew closer, Zelensky awarded Right Sector commander Dmytro Kotsyubaylo the "Hero of Ukraine" commendation. Known as "Da Vinci," Kosyubaylo keeps a pet wolf in his frontline base, and likes to joke to visiting reporters that his fighters "feed it the bones of Russian-speaking children."

    Ukrainian state-backed neo-Nazi leader flaunts influence on the eve of war with Russia

    On February 5, 2022, only days before full-scale war with Russia erupted, Yevhen Karas of the neo-Nazi C14 delivered a stem-winding public address in Kiev intended to highlight the influence his organization and others like it enjoyed over Ukrainian politics.

    Watch Yevhen Karas the leader of Ukraine's neo-Nazi terror gang C14's speech from Kiev earlier this month. Straight from the horses' mouth, he dispels the many narratives pushed by the left, the mainstream media and the State Department. pic.twitter.com/VWJqWPUGUp

    "LGBT and foreign embassies say ‘there were not many Nazis at Maidan, maybe about 10 percent of real ideological ones,'" Karas remarked. "If not for those eight percent [of neo-Nazis] the effectiveness [of the Maidan coup] would have dropped by 90 percent."

    The 2014 Maidan "Revolution of Dignity" would have been a "gay parade" if not for the instrumental role of neo-Nazis, he proclaimed.

    Karas went on to opine that the West armed Ukrainian ultra-nationalists because "we have fun killing." He also fantasized about the balkanization of Russia, declaring that it should be broken up into "five different" countries.

    {photo} Yevhen Karas delivering the Nazi salute

    "If we get killed…we died fighting a holy war"

    When Russian forces entered Ukraine this February 24, encircling the Ukrainian military in the east and driving towards Kiev, President Zelensky announced a national mobilization that included the release of criminals from prison, among them accused murderers wanted in Russia. He also blessed the distribution of arms to average citizens, and their training by battle-hardened paramilitaries like the Azov Battalion.

    With fighting underway, Azov's National Corps gathered hundreds of ordinary civilians, including grandmothers and children, to train in public squares and warehouses from Kharviv to Kiev to Lviv.

    As US media celebrated average Ukrainian citizens taking up arms against Russian troops, the ultra-nationalist Azov Battalion's National Corps published a propaganda video of its fighters training and passing out arms to residents of Kharkiv, transforming them into combatants. pic.twitter.com/RVL1nyWkfw

    On February 27, the official Twitter account of the National Guard of Ukraine posted video of "Azov Fighters" greasing their bullets with pig fat to humiliate Russian Muslim fighters from Chechnya.

    Azov fighters of the National Guard greased the bullets with lard against the Kadyrov orcs??

    A day later, the Azov Battalion's National Corps announced that the Azov Battalion's Kharkiv Regional Police would begin using the city's Regional State Administration building as a defense headquarters. Footage posted to Telegram the following day shows the Azov-occupied building being hit by a Russian airstrike.

    Besides authorizing the release of hardcore criminals to join the battle against Russia, Zelensky has ordered all males of fighting age to remain in the country. Azov militants have proceeded to enforce the policy by brutalizing civilians attempting to flee from the fighting around Mariupol.

    According to one Greek resident in Mariupol recently interviewed by a Greek news station, "When you try to leave you run the risk of running into a patrol of the Ukrainian fascists, the Azov Battalion," he said, adding "they would kill me and are responsible for everything."

    Footage posted online appears to show uniformed members of a fascist Ukrainian militia in Mariupol violently pulling fleeing residents out of their vehicles at gunpoint.

    BREAKING ?? Ukrainian NAZI are preventing people from leaving Mariupol and are shooting at them.

    Residents of #Mariupol do not move around the city, Mariupol will soon be liberated!#EndTheBandera#StopUkrainianNazism #Ukraine #Russia #DPR #LPR #DNR #LPR #Donbass pic.twitter.com/AakZGyNxQx

    Other video filmed at checkpoints around Mariupol showed Azov fighters shooting and killing civilians attempting to flee.

    On March 1, Zelensky replaced the regional administrator of Odessa with Maksym Marchenko, a former commander of the extreme right Aidar Battalion, which has been accused of an array of war crimes in the Donbass region.

    Meanwhile, as a massive convoy of Russian armored vehicles bore down on Kiev, Yehven Karas of the neo-Nazi C14 posted a video on YouTube from inside a vehicle presumably transporting fighters.

    "If we get killed, it's fucking great because it means we died fighting a holy war," Karas exclaimed. "If we survive, it's going to be even fucking better! That's why I don't see a downside to this, only upside!"

    1. That is very well researched. Kudos to the Russian government propaganda department.

      1. Can you refute any of it?

        Then only propaganda incites you to deny it.

        1. Probably, but why waste my time with a psychopathic zealot?

          1. So you can’t refute any of it but you deny it, like the idiots you are.

            Jews and Nazis working together again, right wing socialist psychopaths, Jews heads up Nazi asses just like the old days.

        2. In this thread the stormfag says that Hitler, Himmler, and Goering were Jewish:

          There’s a Jew inside every Nazi

          Fucking idiot.

          1. "...Fucking idiot."

            Idiots who post here like turd and Tony resent that.

          2. They’re both choices to be right wing socialist psychopaths.

            Oh, I forgot. Jews think they inherit their religion.

          3. Jews deny themselves the agency of what to believe and how to act.

            That’s worse than being a mere Nazi.

            1. Interesting that the guy who "can't be refuted" denies his own statement. But it's hardly the first time.

              1. The black heart of a Jew is shared by Nazis demonstrated by how they’re working so closely together today in Ukraine.

                1. YOU are a Nazi. A literal Nazi obsessed with exterminating Jews. Most people would cheer every asskicking you deserve. And you definitely need every square inch of your ass kicked.

                  1. You are a liar. Cite your proof of your claim that I am as you lie a Nazi.

                    You won’t because you can’t. You’re a waste of skin.

    2. Are you looking for editing tips? Overall I agree this is solid propaganda for today's internet and probably ready for deployment. Trying to appeal to both anti-semites and anti-fascists simultaneously is a nice hat trick if you can pull it off.

      Quick nit – no use of "concentration camp" here. Some sentence like "Ukraine's pro-Nazi government has begun mass internment of freedom-loving non-Ukrainians in concentration camps, as seen in this photograph of a train containing women and children headed for gas chambers." Add in a photo of a Ukrainian train.

      Does your farm have enough bots out of social media jail ready to deploy this broadly fast enough? Anyway, vodka shot in appreciation of the work here and the effort that went into this.

      1. It sounds like you’re advocating that Jews arm and employ Nazis in the military using our money, weapons and sons lives.

        Is this true?

        You certainly aren’t even trying to refute the facts.

    3. Those Nazis and Jews are Ukrainians that you’re giving military aid to.

      You fucking idiots.

      1. YOU are a Nazi.

    4. So…… you’re a Nazi. So by your own statements, you are the Jewish. Since you say all Jews are liars, you are therefore a liar.

      1. I am not a Najewzi.

        See how I did that, showing a Jew in the heart of a Nazi?

        It sounds like you fuckwits are advocating that Jews should arm Nazis and employ them in the military. Like what’s happening in Ukraine right now. Is that true?

        1. So you’re a secular Nazi, got it. Do you get regular beatings for being a neo-Nazi, or do you cower in the real world? I see you as a servile keyboard warrior.

          1. I see you as a lose who can’t prove what you claim nor refute what you deny.

            The only beating received here are by anyones argument that attempts to deny what I say.

      2. Maybe we should give Zelensky a break.

        Who’d have thunk that being a western puppet and a Jew would ever be in conflict.

        There’s only one thing according to the schtick that Jews can do wrong, and he’s doing it.

      3. The silence from Jews is deafening.

        1. Yes, you dream of silencing them all. Picking up where your Fuehrer left off.

          1. You’re just another liar.

    5. To be an Aryan, Pure Superman, you sure can't come up with an original thought.

      Fuck off, Nazi!

  13. https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1500548001575718919?t=TrCatBYBE5D_d_xr4KtqqA&s=19

    The problem for @ZelenskyyUa is that at a certain point he becomes more valuable as a disposable martyr for the World War Reddit/Tik Tok geopolitical strategists.

    It's only a matter of time...
    [Pic]

    1. Fun fact: Before the war started, Zelensky said Ukraine would disregard a 1954 deal that prohibited the country from having nuclear weapons. The moron couldn't possibly foresee that doing such would be the final reason for the Russian government's invasion.

      1. If you want to get a bit conspiratorial, perhaps he wasn't being a moron, and he was told to goad the Russian government into executing an offensive. But such is the life as a puppet of other governments.

      2. Sorry, it was 1994 and obviously not 1954. I'm in a bit of a tizzy this afternoon.

      3. Ukraine is a signatory to the NPT. And they do not have enrichment or reprocessing capabilities. Nuclear weapons are not in their future. Also Russia violated the agreement by invading Crimea.

        1. Read the agreement I referenced, and also realize that one cannot arbitrarily choose when history begins. But, in short, it's the not development but the proliferation of nuclear warheads--think Poland.

          1. Poland does not have nuclear weapons either. Nor are they developing any.

            1. They really don't need them, the US, France and Great Britain have them, and have vowed to defend Poland.

      4. Ah Attacking the Victim...

        Piss off Loser

        Russian Troll

        1. Your low IQ is noted.

      5. His mistake was announcing it. If you just acquire the bomb before people know what you're up to you're in a much different position.

  14. Russia is going to level Ukraine and massacre their civilians. The only rational option is to surrender now and prevent the death and destruction.

    1. Why are they waiting?

    2. Gotta respond Hihn-style on this one -

      YOU'LL MAKE A GOOD SLAVE

      1. Too stupid, and too obtuse to be a decent worker.

        1. He might make a good lampshade, or bar of soap.

    3. Moscow Molly.

    4. Fuck off, Nazi, Commie, Revanchist, Alliance, Borg, Kingon, Whatever!

  15. https://twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1500574505898369024?t=4ChwiMnC64sOx13yzBk9QA&s=19

    Kyiv fear videos = Wuhan fear videos
    No fly zone = Just stay home
    Zelensky = Fauci
    Twitter think tankies = Twitter doctors
    No-fly-zone bots = Lockdown bots
    Ukraine deaths = COVID deaths
    Russia = COVID
    March 2022 = March 2020

    1. Yeah, exactly like that.
      WTF?

    2. Nardz claims of conspiratress equivalence = bullshit
      Hey, Nardz! What do you make of the Nixon-Hitler '56 meeting? Conspiring to promote the "global oligarchy"?
      And exactly what is that? Not some lame link to a web site supporting Ukraine:
      Tell us, specifically, what a "global oligarchy" is asshole, or stuff it up your ass.

      1. Damn, sqrlvo is really upset that someone goes after his Davos idols.
        Don't have a stroke there.
        Or do. Don't think anyone loves you.

    3. And they all breathe Oxygen too? You know who else breathed Oxygen?

  16. https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1500495177168957444?t=hEi7Z9bXwLSxK5ev-7s0yQ&s=19

    Ukraine is Trying to Goad the US into World War III

    As the article notes, there is a conventional wisdom setting in that World War III has "already started," and therefore a No Fly Zone wouldn't really be an escalation, as the war is already underway. I've talked to several people in Poland who believe this

    A foreign government is engaged in a full-throttle lobbying blitz to instigate the US into launching WWIII, and US media still largely parrots that government's claims with zero skepticism -- because they're the "Good Guys." Do people really not see the insane folly of this?

    [Links]

    1. Funny, but I haven't noticed a media blitz selling a no-fly zone over the Ukraine and I watch and read a lot of news. Of course I'm not on FB, so I'm missing out on what your cousin said.

    2. Energy independence is the new wingnut buzz term.

      We use 20 million BPD of crude oil. We have never produced more than 13 million BPD.

      The US is still the largest producer of crude in 2022 and domestic production is growing fast.

      1. time to start the fields in mt and dakotas!

        And stop Biden

        1. Biden's the CIC doofus - the only one we've got - and he's doing just fine uniting, coordinating, and leading the free world's response to Russia.

          1. You’re a weak minded fool to say something so laughably obtuse. He’s done shit, except pull us closer to nuclear war. So goddamn you and every other democrat traitor. You should all be put down.

          2. He's united us in thinking he's a Sleepy, Creepy, Crazy, Cranky,Tankie, Corn-Pop-Scaring, Jello Pudding-Cup-Swilling, Basement-Bunker-Dwelling, Shotgun-Plugging, Hoveround-Riding, Jitterbug Phone-Using, Girl-Hair-Sniffing, Crumbling Codger of a Shell of a man!

            Fuck Be Unto Joe Biden!

      2. Petro Mex.

        1. Did you mean to say ‘pedo mex’?

          1. Tomato. Tomatoe...

            Oil from Wetbacks

      3. turd lies. turd is a trafficker in kiddie porn, a TDS addled asshole and a pathological liar.
        turd lies; it's what turd does.

    3. Nardz uses twitter, again; the imbecilic Nardz, who spent at least a page last week, telling us to ignore 'the media' is now relying on a wiki-source comment board to support his bullshit.
      We've had more pathetic attempts here, but not many.
      Here's your shovel, asshole; keep right on digging.

      1. SQRLVO is an appropriate moniker, quite frankly.

        You've lost the thread completely.

  17. https://twitter.com/JamesBradleyCA/status/1500451614242521091?t=fT70bTp9SY-A4gDOJ0iGmQ&s=19

    If stopping the Nordstream 2 Pipeline is a punishment for Russia, who is stopping the Keystone XL Pipeline meant to punish?

    1. Canadians and North Dakotans.

    2. Blind swuirrel finds nut! So plant that nut and grow it instead of shilling for the tyrant Putin and erasuring the suffering of the Ukrainians!

  18. Thanks, Reason!

    https://twitter.com/realjuliasong/status/1500536393717714946?t=l3ikPDtNs_y_ECILpda8Zg&s=19

    Shit is so fake that the minute an outsider took office we got cheap gas, cheap food, became energy independent, no wars and focused on our country’s own issues.

    Establishment hacks get back in and we have inflation, medical tyranny, world war 3, need to take a mortgage for gas.

    1. Take a history lesson. None of that happened when the EC chose Fatso

      1. "Cheap" means pandemic pricing.

        1. turd lies. turd is a trafficker in kiddie porn, a TDS addled asshole and a pathological liar.
          turd lies; it's what turd does.

        2. It's surely coincidental that gasoline went off like a rocket literally the day Biden was elected with minimal interruption since. It couldn't be that the market began to factor in the implications of that shift in governance.

          1. In shrike’s defense, he doesn’t understand the market.

            1. If it doesn’t info,be raping small children he isn’t interested.

          2. U.S. oil firms slashed production in 2020 as the coronavirus pandemic destroyed demand and supply has not yet recovered to pre-Covid levels. In 2019, the U.S. produced 12.29 million barrels of crude oil per day, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

            That figure was 11.28 million in 2020 and is estimated to be 11.18 million in 2021 and 11.85 million in 2022.

            1. Joe Friday, captain of team non-sequitur.

              Thanks for proving the point: when the market yields a higher price, producers typically produce more product to take advantage. The development of fracking technology significantly increased the elasticity of potential supply, so why aren't they?

      2. You know other people can read and lived through the last 6 years, right?

  19. https://twitter.com/martyrmade/status/1500378782435135495?t=tSAx3qFatWPt-h--KTwWqw&s=19

    This is what war looks like. The “long insurgency” being called for in Ukraine by Western officials will bring this to the entire country, for years. Every single world leader should be thinking of nothing but how to end this, but ours can only think of how to leverage it.
    [Link, video]

    1. Americans who haven't changed their profile picture to a Ukrainian flag will be added to the FBI terrorist watchlist.

  20. "Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous states have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.”

    Winston Churchill

    1. When was that speech given again? Oh yeah October 29, 1941. Two years after the war started, Britain was alone and isolated and staring an invasion straight in the face. Over a year after the Western forces had been routed and Britain had to scramble to evacuate their forces from Dunkirk. Not sure it's the most relevant speech to quote at this point in time.

  21. One is reminded of Starship Troopers. Meteor showers are exploited by The State as pretexts for militarism. But a map shows the Bug World completely across the galaxy from Earth. The KGB State claims "Sudeten" Rooshians are being mistreated by evil Kulaks at the Lunahsk end of the country, yet send their gangsters to bomb and murder people at Kiev--the diametrically opposite end of the country, a Texas-width away. Even Hitler had a better lie than "we want Beaumont so bomb El Paso" for invading Czechoslovakia.

  22. Sure are a lot of Trolls on this story.

    Russians. The timing proves it.

    Fuck Mother Fucking Russia.

    You SOBs OWE THE US FOR NOT SPEAKING GERMAN.

  23. It warms the cockles seeing libertoids united in opposition to the Russian propagandists. I give it two weeks before FOX News has figured out how to introduce the fog of war into its coverage. You'll all be pro-Putin in three weeks. You can't be on the same team as Biden, after all. Not for any reason. That doesn't do it for Rupie.

    Prove me wrong, please.

    1. Yeah, I’m sure all the non-interventionists and people saying that this isn’t our fight are going to turn 180 degrees because of some stupid pro-war Fox bullshit.

      No, what will happen is we’ll still be here saying this is none of our fucking business and you’ll be crying like a little bitch that it means we’re pro-Putin.

      (You, of course, will completely ignore all the pro-war bullshit from the NYT and CNN.)

      1. CNN- the old thing you didnt know you still had when cleaning out the basement.

        CNN- who " went" and didnt flush?

        CNN, fingernails on chalkboard of the news world.

        "RTs out, were in!" CNN.

        CNN- 24-7 news even if we have to make it up.

      2. Fox News has been identical to CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, NYT, WAPO, and all other corporate media on Ukraine.

        1. I know that, and you know that, but Tony still lives in 2012 because Fox was mean to Obama.

          1. Lefties and progressives were smug bigots about Fox well before the lightworker got his under-qualified smug self into the Oval Office.

      3. Most people agree that it's not our fight, and we're not in the fight. It would be WWIII if we got in the fight. Congratulations for taking the same position as everyone else on the planet except, I suppose, Lindsey Graham and Joe Manchin.

        So unless you join them or the other wackadoos who are propping up Putin's own justifications for his invasions, then we're on the same page.

        1. Blinken appears to be preparing to start WW3……

          https://twitter.com/FaceTheNation/status/1500562925714554880?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

          Amd you helped put these morons in power. Stupid faggot.

    2. It must be so, in the tiny little world you live in.

    3. Fuck Be Unto Putin and Fuck Be Unto Biden! Now and Forever, no matter how it turns out in Ukraine!

      Is that proof enough?

  24. Video-sharing site TikTok and streaming giant Netflix have limited and cut their services respectively in Russia following its invasion of Ukraine.

    TikTok said it had suspended live streaming and new content from its platform as it assesses tough new laws to crack down on "fake news" about Russia's armed forces.

    TikTok, which has around 36 million users in Russia, said its move was about ensuring the safety of its staff and users.

    Since Friday, anyone who writes news deemed false about the military could face up to 15 years in jail.

    Among other things, the Kremlin objects to the conflict being called a war, instead calling it a "special military operation".

    TikTok limits services as Netflix pulls out of Russia https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60641988

    1. Fascism, because Ukraine represents freedom!
      Right Trudeau?

    2. "TikTok said it had suspended live streaming and new content from its platform as it assesses tough new laws to crack down on "fake news" about Russia's armed forces."

      Russia- plants and programs Fake News around the world esp. the US.

      Russia bitches about Fake News.

      Sucks to be them.

      Putin needs Vitamin Z.

      1. " Fuck Putin" and 13 Troll responses...

        " Odd, Captain."

    3. Call it Operation Choke Point on a grand scale.

    4. TikTok is run by Red China, who is on Putin's side, or at least not against him. So I guess that sounds par for the course.

      The down side is they'll still be able to hijack information from U.S. and Western kids who like all that TikTok Greasy Kid Stuff.

    1. Here you go assholes: MORE NARDZ TWITTER SHIT!

      1. Sqrlvo is definitely trying to figure out where he can order this poster from.
        I suggest you try the US State Department.

        1. Nardz,while claiming no media should be accepted as factual, now relies on the worst possible alternative, makes up names for me his/her mommy said is clever, still can't seem to address the questions at hand.
          Perhaps that has to do with Nardz' assholery? Stupidity? Imbecility?
          Not sure, but it's quite obvious that Nardz is certainly lacking in intelligence.
          Fuck off, asshole.

          1. Notice sqrlvo's lack of rationality, need to distort arguments, and inability to write anything of value.
            I think sqrlvo is sorry he exists.
            I'm sorry you exist too.
            But sqrlvo, the solution to that mistake is entirely up to you.

  25. https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1500628697266769926?t=75s10Aq47LBP0koQvpBpGg&s=19

    "The burden of being perpetually Red Pilled is the benefit of knowing what reality is and what it isn’t, and it can -over time- become a curse unless the knowledge of massive and seemingly overwhelming corruption, deceit, and outright evil is not challenged and defeated."

  26. https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1500648656747253760?t=CUUz4-1fqP0gGktBcU6Whg&s=19

    You can’t even LIKE A TWEET with a link to a man official Russian government statement. Meanwhile, the entire world is running info ops for Ukraine.

    Far more important than almost anything that happens there is the way our info ecosystem is disfigured by elites’ agitprop.
    [Pic]

    1. "...You can’t even LIKE A TWEET with a link to a man official Russian government statement..."

      Looks like Nardz has lost his income!

  27. If there was a, or multiple, Wuhan style lab(s) in Ukraine funded by the US government, how would we know.
    Are we to assume it's just "Russian propaganda"?

    1. If Ukraine sets of a limited nuclear reaction then blames Russia, will you be cheering for direct intervention on Ukraine's behalf?

      1. If Nardz invents more idiotic strawmen, will Nardz ever be embarrassed?
        Naah; requires an intelligence lever equal to foggy a mirror

    2. OTOH, it's very easy to see when the dimwit Nardz tries an attempt at false equivalence, as s/he just did.

      1. I love how triggered sqrlvo is, and watching his tiny senile brain try to compete is just adorable

        1. As opposed to Nardz invented nickname and imbecilic posts.
          Fuck off and die, asshole.

          1. I'm in Jacksonville, let me know when you get here.

            1. You're in STUPIDVILLE, imbecilic asshole; I'm not going there.
              Fuck off and die; your family will thank you and the world will be more intelligent and a better place.

              1. Nobody loves you, sqrlvo.

  28. More than 4,300 people were detained at anti-war protests across Russia on Sunday, rights groups and Russian authorities say. In the last 11 days, more than 10,000 people have been detained at protests, OVD-Info says.
    Protests across Russia see thousands detained https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60640204

    1. If that fake or real?
      I dunno.

      1. Found BBC to be good while traveling in Asia; not so good reporting from other areas.
        Here? Got no idea.

      2. The human rights group cited has done credible work going back some years—and under rather difficult circumstances. The article also cites Russian Federation police authorities themselves. As to the exact numbers of arrested? I can’t be sure but it appears to be large.
        As for BBC in general? I won’t give it complete trust, but I’ll read it before I’ll even consider reading CNN.

        1. “I’ll read it before I even consider reading CNN.” <~~ OK, admittedly that statement has one thing in common with a saloon catering to dwarves: they both involve a VERY low bar!

    2. Soooo...Will the Prutin-Nannies who dote on Putin claim that all these Russian protesters are ginned up by Zelenskyy and the Davos crowd and George Soros and Neo-Nazis/Jews in Ukraine and whoever else is part of their multi-tentacled "conspiracy?" This I gotta see... 😉

  29. No Wal Marts there.

    So there is hope for mankind!

    Now if we had no Democrats.

    And no Explosive Diarreah. But I repeat myself.

    1. “No Walmarts there.”
      No, but plenty of Targets.
      (I know, I know—couldn’t resist. <~Doh! OK that one wasn’t deliberate!)

      1. GROAN !!!!!!!!

        Thats more of a Groaner than Kamala Harris.

      2. Ooooh! That pun is as dangerous as Russian Roulette! 🙂

  30. If Nancy wants to be a good journalist, there's no way she can avoid talking about, even to, this segment of the Ukrainian state.
    They'll love her name at least.

    https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/04/nazis-ukrainian-war-russia/

    1. OH, OH! Playing the "Jooze" card, Nardz! How asshollic of you!

      1. Did that somehow make sense in your addled mind?
        Is your objection that the article covers the role of avowed neonazis in Ukraine's government, that the author is Jewish... or are you saying it's a Jewish smear campaign? Seems like you and Misek share some similar beliefs.

        For fun, why don't you point out what the article gets wrong, and what the real facts are?

        1. Did you, as an imbecilic asshole, hope your racist bullshit wouldn't be recognized?

          1. Again, sqrlvo is incapable of forming a coherent thought.

  31. https://twitter.com/realjuliasong/status/1500679311744983052?t=buJRa5oa1xNVN1k-zStXwQ&s=19

    US and Venezuelan delegations meeting up to determine how Venezuela can supply us with oil.

    We were energy independent a year and a half ago.

    Now we’re chatting up Maduro.

    This makes me sick to my stomach.

    1. OH, OH! More twitter shit from the asshole telling us no media should be worthy of trust!

  32. https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1500679439662804992?t=E4ONcIC_SuxVRn94Bi4IEw&s=19

    Companies have begun behaving, in the world stage, as sovereign powers. By what principle will they resist being seized or nationalized by other world powers? No one is asking these basic questions.

  33. OH, OH! Yet more twitter shit from the asshole telling us no media should be worthy of trust!
    Are you capable of embarrassment, asshole?

  34. " I wouldnt do anything to make god unhappy, he has the Russians for that."

    Beaver in the
    'Leave it to Beaver' show.

  35. As I've been saying:

    https://twitter.com/Reevellp/status/1500810351192985600?t=-ZbP0KMnuZvZu8xCuWqLaQ&s=19

    The Kremlin has announced its demands for ending the war in Ukraine:
    -Ukraine must change its constitution to guarantee it won't join any "blocs", i.e. NATO + EU.
    -Must recognise Crimea as part of Russia.
    -Must recognise the eastern separatist regions as independent.

    Kremlin spokesman Peskov told reporters that these positions have been put to Ukraine ahead of the talks today.

  36. OK, or someone (even one of the trolls, if you can be coherent) explain why modern American liberals are anti-Jew? Most Jews I have known (albeit, many were secular Jews) have been liberal!
    Is it an anti-religion thing? Spill over from an irrational hatred of Israel? Is it that socialist just hate Jews, no matter if The socialist in question is national socialist or just plain socialist?

    Furthermore why are a bunch of anti-Semitic progressives, “anti-Nazi”? I mean literally that’s two of the main defining characteristics of being a Nazi and fascism is antisemitism and governmental regulations in to private and business? Heck the progressive’s don’t even like free speech if it is “hurtful to society”.

  37. Just a little reality, and no I still condemn Putin for his actions, but feel that we need some perspective. The media isn't giving it to us.

    Putin has not come even close to throwing everything Russia has into this conflict. Don't buy the myth that Ukraine's continued resistance is a sign Russia is a paper tiger. Russia has deployed a little over 80,000 troops out of an armed forces of over 1.1 million troops. Ukraine had less than 200,000 at the start. Russia has 772 fighter aircraft, Ukraine had 69. Russia's best units are equipped with T-14 and T-95 tanks, which are comparable to our M1A1 tanks, not so much the M1A2 tanks we field now. The majority of the tanks the Ukrainians field are mostly outdated T-64, which were inferior to our retired M-60 tanks. The majority of armor the media has been showing us from the Russians are also T-64s with some T-72s. The T-64 was obsolete in the 1980s and even then were relegated to secondary divisions. Also, based upon the casualty numbers (what you can believe of them so far) this is a pretty low intensity conflict.

    Russia is not using it's full air force, or even close to it. It's not even deployed a tenth of it's ground forces. The troops that have deployed appear to be second or third tier troops. It is saving it's best for if we get involved.

    We can't enforce a no fly zone without Russia responding with direct military actions. To operate a no fly zone would require us to shoot down Russian fighters, and destroy their air defense artillery. That means a shooting war with Russia. As soon as we do that, expect Russian troops to invade the Baltic states, and their first line troops, which aren't engaged right now, to roll across the Polish Frontier. Cruise missiles will start hitting targets throughout Europe. Russia also has one of the largest submarine fleets in the world, yes the majority are diesel-electric boats, but modern diesel subs are nearly as good as nuclear subs and more than adequate to destroy commercial shipping. And their air force will confront our air forces in Europe.

    Finally, many are talking energy sanctions against Russia, to destroy their economy. This may be the only thing Russia will respond to, and hurt them the worst, however, we and our allies are dependent on Russian energy exports at this time and our leaders don't appear to be serious about weaning us off of this. Alternative energy sources would take at least a decade to make up for the loss in energy from Russia. And that is only if we stop being idiots and use nuclear as base power. It would destroy our economy along with theirs. You think gas prices are high now, wait until we cut off 10% of the global energy supply. Additionally, it will drive the price of everything else up even more. There are already parts of the country nearing $7/gallon. The national average was over $4/gallon on Friday (latest numbers haven't been released, but it's assuredly higher today). Our stock market is bearish.

    The second thing to consider is that sanctions don't actually stop wars. In fact, they often lead to war. We are taught that Japan attacked on December 7th for no reason. That isn't the truth. The attacks on December 7th were partially (if not considerably) the result of US sanctions against Japan. Additionally, one of the reasons Germany invaded other countries was to decrease the impacts of possible sanctions from western Europe. Rather than prevent wars, sanctions give militaristic tyrannies more incentive to start wars, as the more resources they control, the lower the impact of sanctions. Also, don't buy the Chamberlain analogy. England and France's mistake wasn't in negotiating with Germany, but in trusting Germany and not preparing for war. They did nothing to deter Germany, even as Germany built up troops on the Polish border. They didn't send Poland equipment or deploy troops to Poland.

    We rightly feel for the Ukrainian people. We rightly condemn Putin and Russia for their actions, but we also need to be realistic about the dangers of our actions and any further escalation. Don't buy into the jingoism. Don't listen to the same talking heads that were wrong about Iraq and Afghanistan. The same ones who told us those two conflicts would be short and relatively bloodless are the same ones who are driving the current narrative. If we do end up in a shooting war with Russia, I will support our troops 100%, but until then, I will continue to maintain that war with Russia is the worst thing we could do right now.

    1. Great post, thanks.

      With Tsar Putin in charge and dreaming of empire, the worst thing we could do for anyone in the world would be to engage in a shooting war with them.

      Nuclear holocaust is back on the table. If you oversteps and invades a member of NATO, we may have no choice, but I suspect he will play the old game of brinksmanship and take what he can.

      And as you say, we will have to write off places like Ukraine but be damned sure to prepare for other places like Poland and the Baltic States lest we find ourselves literally up against an apocalyptic wall.

      1. ...if HE oversteps

    2. BINGO !!!!!
      "We can't enforce a no fly zone without Russia responding with direct military actions."

      Suggesting this is NYET a direct Ru mil action.

      My $ 100 is on " PuXi has ginned up a private militia for a personal action."

      This is PuXis war.

    3. "I will support our troops 100%"

      That's fine, but I detect in these pages a lot more sympathy for Putin and contempt for Biden, the commander of these troops you support. Yet another reason to be reluctant to go to war.

    4. Good post soldier, except the "jingoism" seems in short supply. Virtually no one of power or authority, or anyone in big media is pumping for us to do more than stop buying Russian oil. Whether that is a good move or not - I don't think it is as Europe will not go along - it falls short of "jingoism" in my opinion. The no-fly zone proposal is DOA, no matter what polls say. If the situation in the Ukraine worsens significantly, as it probably will, the pressure to "DO SOMETHING" will grow to intensity, and that's when things could get dangerous, but we are not there yet.

  38. Bidets ging to SaudibArabia..

    Thats just great. So we can look more stupid on the world stage with this drooling child molester representing us...

    THAT will help.

    F SA

    ETHANOL NOW. CLEAN, RENEWABLE. We grow more corn than we know what to do with. Alcohol distillation is much easier and cleaner than crude and almost none of the coen goes to waste. The leftovers make high grade cattle feed. Local production like in Atlantic IA. Not long dusrance shipping or pipelining.

    And no LIARS claiming people will starve. Its NOT food grade corn.</b

    1. Wow dave. Does that mean he has to do that embarrassing dance like Trump did?

  39. Please help with our funding to support those in need in our area of Ukraine. Anything helps and is greatly appreciated. Our city of Dnipro is now home to many people fleeing cities currently under occupation and conflict. Thank you!

    https://gofund.me/07fa733b

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