When 'Pro-Worker' Policies Hurt Workers
Both Republicans and Democrats want to address poverty with big government.

Pushing back on recent pro-worker populism on the right, the American Enterprise Institute's Michael Strain writes that "workers need a growth-and-participation agenda." The addition of the word "participation" to traditional pro-growth ideas is especially important today.
Millions of pages of study and commentary have rightly made the case that economic growth lifts all boats. But while necessary, economic growth without the removal of existing government barriers to work and entrepreneurship won't be sufficient. It can't cure the participation crisis that traps many workers and lower-income Americans.
In addition to the money we make through our jobs, most of us find some intrinsic value in the act of working or from our work community. Of course, some people have excellent reasons not to work, such as the desire to stay home with one's children. But whether we work or not shouldn't be the result of government-created incentives or obstacles.
People on the left have always been inclined to address poverty and other ills with government benefits, without much worry over their preferred programs' notable, unintended consequences. From the push for higher minimum wages to the implementation of a federal paid-leave program, they often overlook the ways in which these policies generate potential losses of work hours (or even lost jobs), lower wages, and reduced prospects for promotion (especially for women). Lately, people on the political right have joined the same chorus to demand counterproductive proposals.
Take the new enthusiasm among some conservatives for universal programs like the extended child tax credit. Due to its remarkable generosity and lack of work or marriage requirements, it could have negative effects on labor-force participation and child poverty similar to those created by the pre-1990s-reform American welfare system. The same is true of other left-wing policy favorites now endorsed by some people on the right—namely, industrial policy to boost manufacturing employment and protectionism.
Contrary to how they're sold, these policies will hurt workers without addressing some recent developments that are sources of genuine concern.
Indeed, over the last 20 years, some Americans—disproportionately working-age men—have dropped out of the labor force despite low unemployment numbers. In the past, for instance, economic shocks like the Great Recession were followed by increases in unemployment. But as people moved away to find jobs and the economy improved, unemployment returned to lower levels. Not today. This is concerning to scholars and policymakers alike. Now, Americans (especially those who aren't college educated) tend to remain in hard-hit geographic areas, where they stay unemployed.
Unfortunately, right-leaning populists have been quick to join the left in blaming the free market for these woes and now demand an expansion of entitlement programs. But all too often, reduced geographic mobility and labor-force participation are the results of the very initiatives for which they're calling.
Take, for instance, the Social Security Disability Insurance program. It was created to support those afflicted with health conditions or injuries that make working difficult or impossible. It continues to serve that role. But scholars find that the program also helps keep many physically able adults with limited earning potential out of the labor market. Men make up a large majority of these would-be workers.
Another set of issues was brought on by the pandemic when numerous policies were enacted precisely to keep people from working. Most notable are paid leave, child tax credits, large individual stimulus "relief" checks, and boosted unemployment benefits. Many Americans received more than one of these and found their incomes increased above and beyond what they earned while working. While understandable at first, the effects linger. With the worst of the pandemic behind us, some workers remain reluctant to return to the job market. In this, they're encouraged by politicians who would prefer to keep the handouts flowing permanently.
This situation is unhealthy and fiscally unsustainable. Emergency measures are for emergencies and need to be eliminated when such circumstances pass. That's just a start. Congress must finally remove worker-participation barriers created by long-term government programs. Doing so would lead to more opportunities and better lives for people who have been frozen out of the gains enjoyed by most workers.
While these steps might not be the whole answer, a failure to remove barriers to participation could very well nullify other government efforts to lift people up and increase economic growth. Americans deserve better.
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Lower taxes. Prohibit mandatory union membership. For public sector, allow taxpayers to decline funding the union cost of the services provided.
Public sector unions are a conflict of interest. The employees get to vote for the employer. That is why their power has grown exponentially as they added layers and layers of administrators to every system they have infested. When 1 out of every 8 citizens works at some level of government, their voting block is too big not to be appeased.
The courts need to take a stand before they bankrupt the country.
What the courts should do is take a firm textualist stand when comes to what agencies are authorized under the Constitution. Problem of government workers solved when 60-70% of the government is gone and what's left is a military with no union and some postal workers.
State department
Treasury
Attorney General
(and the post roads were permitted, not required)
" But while necessary, economic growth without the removal of existing government barriers to work and entrepreneurship won't be sufficient. "
Oops, getting a bit Conservative there....
Iowa went Right to Work...
FJB
That sure worked out great for workers in the early late 1800- late 1900's
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Too late. 768,000 new government jobs. The Party is creating jobs and printing out of thin air for votes.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/courage-strength-optimism/government-hiring-is-behind-bidens-job-growth
Coming up, Cuba.
Cuba laid off 500, 000 Socialist Gubmint workers due to they had no one working to steal money from.
The first thing you could do to help the workers is let them take off the mask. Also not firing them because there's a highly survivable disease bouncing about because they were deemed "non-essential" would also HAVE been a good start. Then not firing them for not being jabbed, or as we're beginning to mull over... not being jabbed enough would also be something to keep your eye on.
Highly survivable? It's now a chest cold. It's joined the ranks of the other coronavirus colds.
Saying " this facility requires vax and masks ALSO SAYS " its too DANGEROUS to work in without...."
People psychologically conditioned to accept that The Sky is Falling will only read that one way.
The " not going back to work" way.
What a bunch of BOAFF SIDEZ crap. Progressives are evil and Republicans are angels. Get it? Got it? Good.
/Ken
I see you are learning.
Even a goldfish can learn.
Yes but when they start swimming funny and floating on one side, its time to flush them.
Pure trolling. You added nothing to the dialogue.
I'll fix that for you: Progressives are evil and Republicans want what they have.
Adding to the two previous comments, there needs to be some crackdown on unemployment/disability fraud. So long as such fraud is rampant, many able-bodied people will just opt to live off of them while making some occasional bucks under the table. It takes some more bureaucrats in those programs to track these bums, but the return on investment will be worth it.
Wrote about it here: https://juliantryst.com/2022/02/04/a-bipartisan-solution-to-the-labor-shortage/
Unfortunately, right-leaning populists have been quick to join the left in blaming the free market for these woes and now demand an expansion of entitlement programs.
You can't gaslight those of us who were there and paying attention. Republicans tried for 30 years to reform SSD and SSI. It got no traction, and they have moved on.
Rand Paul was willing to filibuster the first COVID relief bill. He conveniently was exposed to COVID and unable to vote on it.
The Democrats have made minimum wages, union promotion and bigger and better welfare programs part of the party platform. Which group is bears more responsibility for this fiasco?
Libertarians act just as surprised as progressives that populism is on the rise, especially on the right. Reason has long pretended that trading with countries that practice extreme market manipulation, such as subsidies, tariffs, outright bans of importation of US goods, that have hollowed out our manufacturing base and capabilities, is a good thing. At the same time they have spoken against foreign militarism and called for us to decrease our military. A country that relies of foreign goods can't be isolationist, it must be able to project power, especially naval power. You can't have it both ways.
The fact that the whole world puts up with China's currency manipulation is the easiest thing to point to.
Any economy growing 20% per year, year over year, should have massive inflation. 300 million new middle class people chasing goods while flooding the international markets should see SOME blip in the value of the currency in which they operate, yet the Yuan is still tightly controlled, only allowed to trade within a range, and internal currency value is separate.
How are they a part of the same market as the US, EU, and all of their other raw materials suppliers in Africa? You want to be part of the world economy, why not just float your currency and let it trade against, gold, the dollar, the Euro, and the Yen?
Take the new enthusiasm among some conservatives for universal programs like the extended child tax credit.
Really? Like who? Sounds like a load of....malarkey.
Like Mitt Romney.
There is a conservative case to be made for child benefits / tax credits as they enable more families to survive on one income, which will most often be the man's. There's also the argument that they moderately raise birth rates, which helps make old-age programs more sustainable and lessens the country's reliance on immigration.
However, not tying such benefits to work / paying taxes is suicidal. You'd just be encouraging the unemployed underclass to multiply on the public dime.
Promoting births also creates economic stability and cultural stability. The just import more workers answer is a bandaid. We are seeing in Germany that the long term failure to meet replacement level birthrates is severely hurting their future manufacturing abilities. They also have found that mass immigration of often under educated immigration hasn't offset this. Most of the immigrants lack the skills and knowledge to perform the skilled trades needed to support modern manufacturing. As a result they have become a drag on resources, while contributing to massive cultural upheavals. Mass immigration during the industrial revolution in the 19th and first half of the 20th century helped build our wealth, but at the time there was far more grunt work/unskilled labor involved in manufacturing. Today, most of those grunt jobs are done with technology, while the workers that are really needed are skilled tradesman. Germany has a robust apprenticeship and trades program, but they are finding it difficult to incorporate their large migrant population into these programs. As a result these immigrants have turned into generational welfare recipients. France has a similar problem. Sweden and Denmark are starting to experience the same problems. The UK and Australia also have similar problems. And the US is starting to experience the same problems. The result tends to be nativism and populism.
"Germany has a robust apprenticeship and trades program, but they are finding it difficult to incorporate their large migrant population into these programs."
I toured a vocational- machining school in the NW US several years ago, to look at a machine I was considering buying.
They had a very well stocked machine shop.
BUT...I observed improper use of one machine....
At the end of the tour, I said to the Instructor " so with such a nice facility, youll be able to graduate many capable workers to send to machine shops."
His response floored me. He looked around, grimaced and replied " no, none of these kids will graduate with any useful skills. Shops wont be able to hire them."
Machining isnt done with machine operators.
Its done by machinists. Theres a huge difference.
Yeah. It's the skilled trades that were short of.
Our school system is completely broken. Our university system is barely better, focused to much on providing a "well rounded, diverse education". We need to focus on educating kids in skills that they will actually need.
I'd argue that our university system is far worse. Because our K-12 education is so decentralized, you have pockets of excellence. At the university level, the complete infiltration and funding of universities by the federal government (through the catastrophic student loan program) mean that they're far more of an indoctrination factory than K-12 is in America.
Your kids have a great chance of coming out of college dumber than when they went in.
Compared to other developed countries the US University system is still doing better. But it isn't doing great, as you say.
This is all based on Euro Socialism so itll all end up on the same place.
Time for an Educational Exit.
Diverse.
Di more they screw with it, Di Verse it gets.
So you are in Germany?
So what happened to the German tradition of using a file the first year to get the feel of the metals?
That must have been abandoned.
No one is born a skilled worker. It is amazing companies survived before everyone had to have skill to work!
Skilled workers are trained either at tech universities or via apprenticeship. Both require a certain base knowledge. In the old days, when unskilled labor was still possible it was possible for unskilled workers to get a job, then learn a skilled trade on the job. Today that option is far less likely.
I thought they meant Joe Manchin.
Right, I mean at this point Manchin should just admit that there is no more room in the modern Democratic party for him. He should declare himself a true independent and refuse to caucus with either party. He would actually have more power than he currently does, as both sides would have to court him. Independents who caucus with one party or the other actually decrease their power.
At this point we should ALL admit that there is no room in America for the democrat party. Then we can take appropriate steps to eliminate it.
Theres PMENTY of room.
Below ground. 6 feet.
So we'd have one party rule?!? NO fucking political party gives a shit about you.
One name that comes to mind is the NYT "conservative", David Brooks. He never takes positions contrary to goodthink, but that's at least part of the reason why he has his job.
In response to those who say that giving welfare mothers more money will "unlock" their productivity, I say: "why don't you loan them your own money? Surely there's a free market opportunity there." The response I get is something like a flurry of Marxist perjoratives, but I never get a response that actually addresses my question.
""unlock" their productivity,"
That sounds like the concept of crowdfunding nano home businesses in Africa.
It is the same concept. Marxists invoke this same idea over and over again, sometimes using different verbiage, i.e. the idea that transfer of resources will result in more overall productivity, but on some level they don't really believe it because, if they really did believe it, they would be see business opportunities and there wouldn't be any need to use the blunt instrument of state power.
The Harvard PHD economists advising the democrats talk in terms of "economic multiplier effects" but it's still a lie. If they believe reallocating resources will cause a productivity increase, then why aren't they reallocating their own resources and turning a profit? Surely any serious economist would consider that to be a win/win scenario.
You mean like transferring more to the top for more productivity?
If capitalism did the right thing there wouldn't be any need to use the blunt instrument of state power.
https://news.yahoo.com/counterpoint-capitalism-did-thing-wouldnt-173456550.html
Any by Harvard PHD economists, I'm talking about the same buttholes who told us that there wouldn't be any inflation.
there isnt.
Price increaes to compensate for lack of sales volume is NOT INFLATION.
This is exactly the same pack of inflation lies that the Media invented in 2010 due to Obamas clusterfuck of an economic collapse.
WHEN in 2012. inflation hit an all time low.
Microloans can be beneficial. I am sure even crowdsourcing allows access to capital that many impoverished people lack. The difference between this and government largesse is the voluntary nature and that both parties assume some risk. This drives both parties to try to maximize success.
Most of what I'm seeing on the interwebs adjudges microloans to be a flop. From here we read:
This is how microloans are funded
Very little of it really comes from the private sector and what private sector funding there is, is not profit. I think this backs up what I'm saying. If the people in favor of microloans really believed their own economic theorizing, they'd see profit opportunites and use their own wealth. These government funded aid agencies and Ford foundations wouldn't need to be involved.
Without access to capital it's damn near impossible for the poor to build any form of business. There needs to be some means for them to have access to capital.
Our church raises money, we made enough that we were able to purchase a small family farm in a third world country through Lutheran social services. I would like to think we made some difference.
if only there was a way to get capital....not like there is any way to do that.
For the poor and lower middle class, there often isn't. For people in third world countries there often isn't
Thereare loads of hyper-intelligent people looking to score some green. Why not persuade the people that you think aren't being given a fair shake, to come up with business plans and present said plans to investment firms? For the most part, I know it won't happen. Your premise is wrong.
Some would argue that life is a miserable affair and people at the bottom should receive some kind of basic support. If this were your position, maybe I would be charitable and remain on the fence, although I am adamant that any welfare must have stringent conditions attached. At least welfare on compassionate grounds is a position that can not be shot down immediately with counterfactuals.
What conditions would you give the disabled? Those born with lower mental capacity? Those born with physical and mental defects? Those that suffer accidents? Do you seek the same stringent conditions when money is handed to the wealthy? To the military?
Why not start by loaning your own capital? If what you are saying is true, there is tons of opportunity for you.
You could even start a business that loans to these people and, if you are right, there would be buckets of money to make.
Before you do that, you should ask yourself why the business that already make the riskiest bets, don't want to involve themselves.
That's like asking why did publishing houses turn down Harry Potter.
I already own my own business. And I know how hard obtaining capital is. And I am solidly middle class, from a solid middle class family. I am not calling for government intervention but support privately funded loans and crowdsourcing as a way to let more people obtain access to capital. I don't see why you would oppose that.
...not when its not a real business....
Hobbies are not business. Neither is Welfare.
The US Small Business offices have shelves with 3 ring binders ( or did...) with " business plans" for phoney, mostly home based pretend businesses mostly directed to bored housewives.
When I remarked to the SBA counsellor that those were not real businesses he laughed and said " I know , but those what people come in asking for and it saves us wasting time."
From a strictly national security view, increasing the manufacturing base is a good thing. It's the problem with strictly capitalism/free market/libertarian arguments. It would especially important if we did cut the military, because in the case of a near peer war, a strong manufacturing base allows a quick buildup of necessary equipment. Relying on other countries, especially potential foes, for manufacturing is a recipe for disaster.
The best way to achieve a strong manufacturing base is a multi-prong approach. First, we need massive industry stifling deregulation. Second, we need massive tax reform, I shouldn't have to pay an accountant $80/year to do my taxes, and I shouldn't have to mail a small book to the IRS every year to file my taxes as a small business owner. Third, we need to promote and recruit more young people into the trades (can't have manufacturing without skilled tradesmen/women). Fourth, we need to emphasize STEM at all levels of schooling, less money for liberal arts and more money to training engineers, scientist and mathematicians, (can't have manufacturing without innovation, which requires these three fields). These last two would require a massive change in our current schooling system from kindergarten through university. Fifth, we can't ignore the fact that most of our competitors subsidize their manufacturing, slap tariffs on US goods, and other practices which make our goods less competitive. The best way to address this, but least likely given the mindset of our global competitors, is actual free trade agreements that prohibit these uncompetitive practices. Sixth, we need to reform immigration, making legal immigration easier, to discourage illegal immigration. In order to get buy in for point six, you would have to improve border security.
Unfortunately, many of these suggestions aren't 100% free market. It's difficult for a true free market to compete against a globe full of managed/subsidized markets. Unfortunately, populism will continue to rise until the middle class, especially the working middle class, feels they are being listened to by the government. The biggest problem with all parties, including the Libertarian party, is a lack of pragmatic, utilitarian thinking. And the just move mantra is no better than the "muh private company" mantra.
Trade with China isn't free trade, because China purposely manipulates the market to their advantage. It also may be a benefit in the short run because it gives us more buying power, but in the long run it isn't beneficial for the country. A consumer driven economy is only sustainable during periods of calm and peace, however, it is very susceptible to disruptions. We can see how this plays out in modern times. Shortages, high oil prices, increasing prices of manufactured goods (when in stock) are at least partially the result of our growing dependence on foreign countries for our manufacturing and production of raw goods. Until we balance our economy, we will be at the mercy of any global disturbance. We also will continue to disenfranchise large swaths of the country. Until we admit global economic realities, populism will continue to grow.
I am a diehard capitalist, but I also believe that we have to look at the reality of our competitors. I am not calling for subsidies but do agree with the populists that we have ignored the blue collar for to long. We also have ignored the realities of global trade policies, that have weakened us and made us over dependent on bad faith players.
Finally, if we must rely on foreign markets for the majority of our manufactured goods, we really can't be isolationists. We can't cut down on foreign bases, especially naval bases, if we must rely on importation of foreign goods. So, the choice is either we find policies that on shore manufacturing, or we continue with foreign military adventuring. England depended heavily on goods from her colonies during both World Wars and was nearly brought to her knees by naval blockades. Germany failed to produce enough domestic goods, and was defeated largely due to effective naval blockades in both world wars. The South relied heavily on foreign manufactured goods, and had few domestic manufacturing, which played a huge role in their defeat (the Anaconda plan). The American Revolution almost failed because of lack of manufacturing, and the tide really didn't turn until France joined us, challenging British Naval Supremacy and allowing more manufacturing in.
We haven't had a near peer war in generations, that doesn't mean it can't happen (I'm almost afraid eastern Europe may draw us soon into a near peer war and as our most likely foe is allied with our biggest supplier of manufactured goods, I am frankly scared). China wouldn't even have to declare war on us to hurt us substantially, just block trade.
Make it simple: Get off the FRN standard. Once the supply of dollars can't be expanded on a whim, we run out of people to borrow them from. The trade deficits go away once borrowing becomes too expensive to maintain fiscal deficits. That stimulates domestic production.
Reining in the fed would definitely help.
Reining in/eliminating the fed wouldn't address all the issues though. It doesn't address the lack of skilled trades that our education system has created, nor the aging skilled trades population.
Fuck the Fed :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QeRv4IHoP70
"Fourth, we need to emphasize STEM at all levels of schooling,"
HAHAHA WHAT A SCAM.
Stem isnt.
Its an acronym for Spending Tons of Everyones Money on tech toys Made in China.
As an engineer, I was a Judge at a STEM competition in an affluent area with PHds, scientists and engineers on every streetcorner.
I talked with a girl on a robitic project about their project.
She knew NOTHING except ' we bought this computer// robotic hardware, loaded software and pressed the Run button."'
STEM is another educational SCAM.
STEM is simply teaching students to be tech consumers.
.The BILLIONS of dollars in stem toy sales proves it.
That is why we need to change it to be more applicable. Make it meaningful.
It's not necessarily a scam, but it's tough because you are competing with imports from China and India who are willing to take less salary. (And it's also very difficult in college because many of the teams are from those places and don't speak English intelligibly.)
Have to end free trade with impoverished nations.
Alternate title, more in line with economic and security reality:
When trade policies with bad actors hurts workers (and national security).
If there are enough well-motivated people besides libertarians, we should should be able to pull some from "left", "right", and "nowhere" to craft some reforms to increase wealth building that will have a chance to be enacted and retained. What's worked in other countries along such lines to overcome entrenched and broad opposition?
Populism and managed markets tend to be the norm the course globally. Even Scandinavia and Switzerland are heavily managed economies. Much like communism, true free markets have never existed, because neither are realistic. Communism always devolves into tyranny because it ignores human nature, while free markets always devolves into managed markets and populism because humans are naturally clannish, empathetic and charitable. Thus you end up with safety nets and subsidies and tariffs. The first to take care of people and the latter two to protect your workers and economy.
Realistically, the best we can hope for is freer markets, but for it to really work, we would need the vast majority of our trading partners to do the same, or implement trade practices that are extremely distasteful for capitalists, and libertarians.
We can't ignore that the one overriding function of government is national security, and we can't pretend that economic stability is necessary for national security. A consumer nation is never stable, and is always susceptible to foreign pressure and disruption. The best answer is a balance between a manufacturing and consumer driven market. It may not produce the most wealth, but it produces the most stability and security.
You can never reach any ideal, but that doesn't mean there's no slack that could be taken up to get us closer. I was depressed to realize some years ago when I was out of work how many jobs I could do if I were allowed to, but lacked a piece of paper allowing me to do that specific job. The job market at the mid-to-high end has lost fluidity as these protectionist schemes set in. In many fields, unless you were willing to orient your whole career around them, you couldn't get in; gig employment was unavailable and impracticable. The suggestion people had for me was to get on disability. Maybe had I tried hard enough, I could've qualified for that!
I did work another angle of the racket: being a teaching adjunct in colleges filled with students who were there because someone told them they needed my courses, or someone's for a job, when in reality there was no practical reason for them to study such things.
That is what I am saying, there is slack. But to often we sacrifice good for the perfect. The libertarians will never have a seat at the table until they act more pragmatic, more willing to compromise. Some populism and even some protectionist policies are necessary in a globalist society. It isn't anywhere close to ideal, but it's the hard truth. Purely consumerist arguments, which Reason tends to use in arguments against populism and protectionism, leads to income inequality and an imbalanced trade that hurts large segments of the population. This just results in populism and protectionism becoming more attractive to the masses. If no other country subsidized their industries, or manipulated markets and currency, then possibly these policies wouldn't be needed/desirable.
Well said. Libertarians also tend to get so myopic about trade that they ignore that trade is just one aspect of national strategy to nation-states.
China doesn't ship us cheap steel at below production cost because they're stupid or because they really want to do us a favor and sell us useful products at a good price. They do it because it will destroy our domestic steel production and make it more difficult and expensive to do things like build up our military or infrastructure. They don't intend to keep selling us steel if they go to war with us.
But I've watched libertarians crow about how great it is that we're getting a product subsidized by foreign taxpayers at a really low price and they never bother to question what the endgame is in that. It's just arrogance and incompetence.
"managed economies. "
Oxy-moron.
If you can show me any example of a true free market, I will agree with you. I can't think of any since recorded history started. All markets have been under some form of control by their government. All markets have involved some form of government oversight and manipulation.
Actual free trade is impossible in a world of nation-states. You can only have managed trade, done well or done poorly.
And of course, the purist libertarian strategy to cope with that is to abolish nation-states...which is just naivete because countries like China certainly aren't going to abolish their nation or military just because we decide to commit national suicide. They just see it as their opportunity to take charge of the world, after which they won't have free trade either.
Sad reality is that managed trade that embraces free trade principles but also protects national sovereignty is probably the best system of trade that humanity is capable of producing at this point.
the underground economy proves otherwise, commie.
Illicit trade isn't free trade, idiot. It's just a black market. Those rely on force and coercion to function too, which is why they're often run by organized crime.
This is why libertarians are irrelevant...too many fucking idiots who can't acknowledge reality.
my snark isnt about " economy."
Its about " managed."
In some jurisdictions, like my own, one must join a union supporting democrats in order to qualify for required certifications. They call it "workforce development".
Marco Rubio has introduced an interesting bill that would allow management and workers to form voluntary associations that allow negotiations without the need for collective bargaining or union membership. Workers will be able to opt out. If ran correctly it would be a benefit to both management and workers, as both would have equal representation, and allow more balance. And as it is voluntary, rather than forced, it is far more desirable. I doubt the bill will go anywhere, as Biden is full on forced unionization and he doesn't want any alternatives to the Democratically ran unions.
I don't necessarily hate unions but I hate the current crop of union leadership. I do hate union protectionists policies.
My Grandfather was a Big Wig in USWA from the 1950s. He told me in the 70s that Unions were beyond corrupt then.
Unions. Piss and moan about having to deal with one Corporation which pays you to work then join a second one whom you pay so they dont have to work.
When unions were small, local they actually accomplished quite a bit of good. But like all good things they got a taste of power and started to crave more. Also, unfortunately, many of the organizers were outright Marxists, which resulted in leadership being overtly politically.
After core Wage and Hour issues were solved along with safety issues, they became worthless.
.I point to the Triangle manufacturing plant fire in the early 1900s.
They are in it for pure greed now. How much can they hold companies hostage for?
A parallel is HOAs. With zoning laws being universal, they serve no legitimate purpose but to allow the BANK which financed the original parcel of land on which the development was built, to keep ownership of everything on it. They phoney up a corpirate shell to hide behind...( cor- pirate a deliberate mis spelling)
But I digress.
My father and brother both are in USW. They unionized because they work for WSU as support staff (they're boiler operators). Neither were exactly pro-union, and my Dad was USW in the 1970s and early 80s, had nothing good to say about them. They only unionized because the university administration was treating blue collar support staff like shit, not following up on worker complaints about toxic leadership, forcing weird scheduling that everyone but the plant manager hated, no raises while they were giving professors, administration, the university president and football coaches huge raises, making them come in on their days off for stupid diversity training etc. Since then they have gone to a four on four off schedule (they work 12 hr shifts) with two weeks of nights followed by two weeks of days, have gotten annual cost of living raises, the same ones the university was giving to everyone but the blue collar staff, got the bad manager (who wasn't even a boiler operator and didn't know anything about boilers) fired for his abusive behavior, got the university to back off of the required training on days off (they can now do most of it on-line during work hours). In some cases unions still have a function. Washington state for all their pro-worker mantra really treats there blue collar workers like shit. My father and brother worry about the long term impact of bringing in a union, and they both were and remain for the most part opposed to public service unions, but Washington State University had painted them into a corner. My father also wonders if the state government did it on purpose to encourage workers to join the union.
He wants to retire but with inflation he doesn't see how he can. He is 67, and wants to move to Montana to be closer to us and his grandkids (my brother is unmarried and has no kids). I was home over Christmas, and he is starting to look old for the first time ever. He used to regularly walk five miles a day, but he can barely do two miles now. He had a pacemaker placed last fall and it has really taken it out of him. Both of his parents died at the age of 56, and he has type II diabetes (despite not being obese, research is now showing that type II diabetes can be genetic). He keeps saying next year I can retire, if things are better, but they are now saying the earliest that we may get inflation under control is the end of 2022.
It is a real worry and my mother isn't in great health either. She really needs surgery on her knees, but the COVID restrictions the hospitals have in place has delayed the surgery for 2 years. She is in constant pain, which keeps her sedentary. She already battled obesity, and it has gotten worse. She was doing water aerobics and PT, but COVID shut that down too.
WSU? Youre in Washington State?
RUN !!!!
I don't necessarily hate unions but I hate the current crop of union leadership. I do hate union protectionists policies.
Yeah. I've usually distinguished unions from Unions.
The Walmart where I work faced problems finding workers.
How did they solve it? By raising wages from $11 (actually $9 at start) to $17
It's amazing how you can get more people to work for a decent (if still not exactly lavish) wage.
$17 is peanuts now. Take 30% off the top for expenses ( taxes SS etc)
Nothin left.
It isnt mo money. Its letting off the PLANdemic and people being in desperate financial straits.
The Fed Welfare programs ended.
"Both sides!"
1) "...Take the new enthusiasm among some conservatives for universal programs like the extended child tax credit..."
First, this is a tax cut, not a subsidy, correct? And then it would be nice to see some names attached.
2) "...The same is true of other left-wing policy favorites now endorsed by some people on the right—namely, industrial policy to boost manufacturing employment and protectionism...'
Names, please.
3) "...Unfortunately, right-leaning populists have been quick to join the left in blaming the free market for these woes and now demand an expansion of entitlement programs..."
Why does it seem the author might have found two or three people, claiming to be conservative, who support what she claims?
Stuff your "both sides" up your ass, Ms. De Rugy.
Why does it seem the author might have found two or three people, claiming to be conservative, who support what she claims?
Weird how there's never a populist around when you need one, right?
1) I don't know about the "extended" part of this, but the child tax credit has long been part subsidy - it is not limited to just reducing taxes. If it exceeds your other tax obligations, your refund is everything you paid into income tax PLUS the excess child tax credit. When I was supporting 3 grandchildren, the standard deductions and exemptions canceled most of my taxable income and then the child tax credit gave me a few thousand dollars above refunding all the withholding.
This tells an interesting story of ideas in the workplace
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-number-one-reason-white-men-give-for-not-getting-involved-with-diversity-and-inclusion?utm_source=pocket-newtab
According to the researchers, the readiness with which white men cite their lack of time points to an underlying issue in how many companies treat diversity and inclusion.
It’s “still seen as kind of extracurricular,” says Julia Taylor Kennedy, the lead researcher on the project and executive vice president at the Center for Talent Innovation. “It hasn’t been positioned as a core competency to driving business or individual leaders’ careers forward.”
And when white men, who continue to hold a disproportionate amount of senior-level positions, believe that they’re too busy to help with something as important as equality in the workplace, it’s no wonder that little progress gets made.
And what are all those white guys in senior positions doing you might ask? Uh, working for something that produces for the company. You know. What they are paid to do. That's why they are disproportionate in senior level positions. Because the pay attention to what is top priority at work and don't run around creating drama about working side by side with someone else. Work is not a social club, ladies
Based on this report:
https://www.talentinnovation.org/_private/MajorityMenBelonging_Report2-Aug2020-CTI.pdf
Here is the team. With a distinctive blend of .... uh, women. Oh, and a couple of guys for advisors.
PRIMARY RESEARCH LEAD
Julia Taylor Kennedy, Executive Vice President
SECONDARY RESEARCH LEAD
Pooja Jain-Link, Executive Vice President
PROJECT TEAM
Isis Fabian, Manager, Research and Publications
Parisa Fayzar, Associate
Emily Gawlak, Writer
Deidra Idehen, Researcher
Silvia Marte, Manager, Communications
Laura Schenone, Vice President, Director of
Communications and Marketing
Brittany Stalsburg, Researcher
Faye Steele, Research Coordinator
Emilia Yu, Senior Research Associate
DESIGN TEAM
Louisa Smith, Data Visualization and Illustration
Afsoon Talai, Creative Direction/Design
ADVISORS
Lynne Oldham, Chief People Officer, Zoom
Prof. john a. powell, Haas Chancellor’s Chair in Equity
and Inclusion, Professor of Law, African American
Studies, and Ethnic Studies, University of California,
Berkeley
Michael Welp, PhD, Cofounder, White Men as Full
Diversity Partners (WMFDP|FDPGlobal
Group Think Tank headed by two MEN who are radical Leftist PHds in programs with made up titles...no WOMEN founders.
The Staff is an estrogen- fest of certainly radical Feminists.
So whats it called when a group of political hacks like this operate to INFILTRATE corporations and plant political idealogy?
SUBVERSION.
EXACTLY.
What shes pissing her panties over is forcing Social Justice on them.
Love it when a plan fails!
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"Millions of pages of study and commentary have rightly made the case that economic growth lifts all boats. But while necessary, economic growth without the removal of existing government barriers to work and entrepreneurship won't be sufficient. It can't cure the participation crisis that traps many workers and lower-income Americans."
Two fine sentences, then Back to Marx.
The economy doesnt lift boats.
Boats do it.
Find the number of ILLEGAL ALIENS in the US
then the amount of Fed welfare payments.
$8.x TRILLION IN 2021.
Corrrlation? Bet there is!
Contrary to Nutsy Piglousy, welfare is NOT economics.
The last sentence implies that people arent participating in the economy.
Fact.
Thank Bill Clintons NAFTA and DemoRepublicans Open Borders.
The Great Sucking Sound ended. It was sucked to Third World Nations and now we dont have computer ICs to make things with.
BTW we dont even make the things!
Our manufacturing base and economy were sold out to communist/ socialist nations in the name of obscene profit. Wal Mart, a prime example.
I personally have bought at about 10 cents on the dollar from China, they must be paying 1/100 to 1/1000 th in mass quantities on slave labor.
Like Bobcat Golthwaite said...
" I still have a job, theres just this other guy doing it!"
(S)he speaks chinese...
American Crossroad
As the Chinese are at a crossroad between Communism and Fascism, so are these United States but American style. Do not expect a Republican victory in November to save liberty. Remember Bush the Second and his misnamed Patriot Act?
Big Government gets bigger in the name of protecting "the people". Through Fascism? Who protects us from Big Government?
See "China: Selling Confusionism" at ...
https://www.nationonfire.com/chinese-confusion/ .
What if we *need* a bunch of people doing work that generates only $10/hr in direct value?
How do we give these people enough economic comfort that they have time/money to invest in themselves and/or not violently overthrow society?
And where, exactly, is the super-prosperous geographic region with employment that they should be pulling up roots and moving to? And what do the home prices in those places look like? Where's the big growth industry in America that is offering all these jobs to people?
Because right now our big industry is tech...and the jobs in that sector are getting filled by H-1B visa workers from India who the tech companies can keep as indentured servants who can be retained cheaper than American workers. Manufacturing has gone to China. The energy sector is being killed by Biden and the left. And manual labor is being filled by millions of cheap, illegal laborers that Biden is letting run through the southern border unmolested.
The problem isn't that workers aren't moving, the problem is that there's nowhere for them to go because the politicians that the Koch brothers love so much shipped economic opportunity overseas and import foreign labor to take the economic opportunity here.
Before the Government can address poverty, it must stop creating the poverty. Don't 'tax', non taxable income .
But hiw will they create a Dependent Class?
Boaf Sidez!!! Whoever started calling out this tactic was brilliant.
The lack of a national or state level health insurance gives massive negotiating advantage to labor exploitation specialists. Why blather on about entitlements for workers, when there has been zero accountability in the PPP loans and other extensive and overwhelming forms of entitlements for people who can't manage profitable or even solvent businesses? If so many bad job creators many can barely manage the bottom line, why should they be entrusted with making arrangements for an even more complicated utility, that is widely relied upon by the public? How many times do they deserve to fail without consequence?
Gov-Guns is only Power that makes it so, "How many times do they deserve to fail without consequence?" by blaming and pushing those consequences onto OTHERS...
So while you complain about Gov-Guns stealing from it's citizens to bail out companies; you completely lack basic sense in the fact National or State level government ran health insurance is but a Compulsive "Bail Out"... As-if Obamacare and the health insurance complex moving into the #1 wealthiest in the USA directly after it wasn't a drop dead give-away.