GoFundMe Rejects Fundraising for Canadian Freedom Convoy
Plus: Is Web3 a scam? Does the Joe Rogan/Spotify controversy have anything to do with Section 230? And more...

GoFundMe calls Freedom Convoy an "occupation." What started as a protest against vaccine rules for border-crossing Canadian truckers has morphed into a massive—and more than a week long—demonstration against all sorts of COVID-19 mandates in Canada. Things have been largely peaceful, but the city of Ottawa is declaring a state of emergency and the crowdfunding platform GoFundMe is refusing to turn over millions of dollars raised for the protests.
"GoFundMe supports peaceful protests and we believe that was the intention of the Freedom Convoy 2022 fundraiser when it was first created. We now have evidence from law enforcement that the previously peaceful demonstration has become an occupation, with police reports of violence and other unlawful activity," the company declared in a statement.
Initially, GoFundMe said donations whose makers did not request a refund would be sent "to credible and established charities chosen by the Freedom Convoy 2022 organizers." In an update, it said that "due to donor feedback," it would "automatically refund all contributions directly—donors do not need to submit a request."
That means more than $8 million will be refunded, reports The Washington Post. Since the GoFundMe rejection, protesters have raised $3.5 million on the Christian crowdfunding site GiveSendGo.
GoFundMe said it's rejecting Freedom Convoy funds because the protest violated its terms of service—specifically, a prohibition on "the promotion of violence and harassment." But it's unclear to what exactly GoFundMe is referring.
By all accounts, the protests—which have included thousands of Canadians in multiple cities—have been mostly nonviolent. Ottawa Police Service reported Sunday that they've seen "extremely disruptive and unlawful behaviour" from protesters. But when they spell out what this means, most of it is relatively minor stuff. For instance, Ottawa cops issued 450 tickets for infractions that include "excessive noise," fireworks displays, seatbelt violations, disobeying a sign, an "improper muffler," an obstructed license plate, driving on a suspended license, running a red light, and "driving through a no truck route."

Criminal offense investigations have been opened, but these seem to have led to relatively few arrests. On Sunday evening, OPS said that it had opened "over 60 criminal investigations so far related to the demonstration." It reported just seven arrests—five people were arrested for unspecified "mischief," one "for mischief relating to property damage of a downtown business," and another "for driving while prohibited."
OPS also reports investigations into hate crimes, but does not offer more details. A special hate-crime hotline it set up "received over 200 calls, and Detectives are ensuring every report is investigated," the OPS statement said.
Several incidents of harassment by demonstrators have been reported. But a few alleged bad apples in a mix of thousands of protesters spanning cities seems extremely weak rationale for the GoFundMe cancellation.
One serious incident has been alleged in the days after GoFundMe's decision: an attempted arson. But this event has not been substantiated (and some of the claims surrounding it are a bit far-fetched).
As a private company, GoFundMe can associate with whatever causes it wants. But the move is, nonetheless, disappointing. It feels very much like a pretense to disassociate from a cause that's critical of government and unpopular with political leaders.
Protester James MacDonald told CNN that "the whole event has gone beyond just vaccines and it is now about the entire ordeal," including mask mandates, lockdown measures, and more. The truckers are now joined by all sorts of folks, and the protests have spread beyond their original locale in Ottawa to cities throughout Canada, though the bulk of the action remains in Ottawa.
On Sunday, Ottawa's mayor declared a state of emergency. "Declaring a state of emergency reflects the serious danger and threat to the safety and security of residents posed by the ongoing demonstrations and highlights the need for support from other jurisdictions and levels of government," said the city in a statement.
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"Spotify's decisions about Rogan (and Young and others) has absolutely nothing to do with Section 230. At all," writes Mike Masnick. In case you've been living under a rock: Neil Young and several other perfomers have removed their music from the digital listening platform Spotify to protest the company's ties to the popular podcaster Joe Rogan. The musicians initially threatened to go if Spotify wouldn't ditch Rogan's show; Spotify wouldn't.
Some—including Los Angeles Times reporters, tech writer Kara Swisher, and the activist group Sleeping Giants— have linked this fight to Section 230, a law that protects websites and other digital mediums from certain liabilities for user-generated content. "But the question of Spotify's decision to keep Rogan or not has nothing to do with Section 230 at all," notes Masnick:
Spotify has every right to decide whether or not to keep Rogan in the same manner that a book publisher gets to decide whether or not they'll publish a book by someone. And that right is protected by the 1st Amendment. If someone sued Spotify for 'hosting Joe Rogan,' Spotify would win easily, not using Section 230, but for failure to state any actual claim, backed up by the 1st Amendment right of Spotify to work with whatever content providers they want (and not work with ones they don't).
A lot of people want to find a way to blame Section 230 for Spotify's right to host Joe Rogan. But as with so many instances where Section 230 is blamed, what they're really mad at is the First Amendment. It's just that saying one hates the First Amendment and doesn't believe in free speech isn't so popular, so people try to complicate matters by invoking a law that many people either don't know about or don't understand, and are trying to act as if this comes down to tech companies having some sort of special rights.
Masnick points out that if Section 230 didn't exist, Spotify would still have a First Amendment right to air whatever music and podcast it chooses and cut deals with their creators:
Spotify, just like a publishing company, a newspaper, a TV cable news channel, would have a 1st amendment editorial right to determine who to allow on its platform and who not to. 230 doesn't create a right to editorial discretion (both up and down). That already exists thanks to the 1st Amendment.
Indeed, if you're thinking that Spotify might somehow be liable if someone gets hurt because they listened to someone spreading stupid advice on Rogan's podcast, that's not going to fly—but, again, because of the 1st Amendment, not Section 230. As Section 230/1st Amendment expert Prof. Jeff Kosseff explained in this great thread, book publishers have (multiple times!) been found to be not liable for dangerous information found in the books they publish.
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GoFundMe calls Freedom Convoy an "occupation."
I'm sure they're applying their policies uniformly.
Just like our FBI and DOJ = apply policies uniformly
Anybody ever heard of "Occupy Wall Street"?
Too much. I think they were the ones who started our present latest urban trend of filthy, garbage-filled, violent homeless encampments.
The biggest, most delicious irony that came out of the whole Occupy Movement shitstorm was when Occupy Charlotte members of this Fighting-The-Man, Eat-The-Rich, "We Are The 99%" movement actually sued each other over Intellectual Property rights to the "Occupy Charlotte" name and logo. 🙂
I guess we can't own property but we can own slogans.
And the fist logo, if I'm not mistaken, is pretty much public domain used by protest movements everyehere, including now Black Lives Matter.
Not to mention CHAZ/CHOP and it's offshoots. Those explicit occupations were fine but the marxist apologist ENB can't be bothered to do any independent thought or research.
Those fucktards think they brought about the Arab Spring.
they never read Homage to Catalonia
I wouldn't claim it. I remember everyone in the Lamestream Media, including Reason, was getting all doty on those savages and calling them "Secular." Then, not so much when The Muslim Brothehood took over the movement, Gays were thrown off of buildings, and they started raiding The Alexandria Library and beheading mummies.
The beheading mummies was a bridge too far for some
At first I read that in the sense of "job", meaning that GoFundMe won't pay people for regular jobs.
Gofundme didn’t have a problem funding blm/antifa riots.
It is past time to recognize big tech as soverign nations at war with real America. As such their assets should be taken, management relieved of command and perhaps deported (if we had a time machine to Vienna or some commie eastern european capital circa 1925). New management with a commitment to the Bill of Rights and no censorship unless the NAP is violated. Seriously, these companies are a national threat...a real threat to liberty
What started as a protest against vaccine rules for border-crossing Canadian truckers has morphed into a massive—and more than a week long—demonstration against all sorts of COVID-19 mandates in Canada.
At least they're staying somewhat on message. Things like this have a habit of being hijacked after a certain time or size.
If only they were protesting for free stuff for trannies, and the destruction of the nuclear family
Where are truckers are making their mistake is that they're not burning down buildings and haven't looted any stores. If they did that, then Trudeau and the media would call them mostly peaceful.
And if they really want to be loved by our betters, instead of sweeping the streets and delivering meals to the homeless, they need to set up a CHAZ/CHOP and rape women there.
This whole protest has been quite instructive in showing what kinds the establishment and western cultural elites actually support.
These people are fine with protests that turn violent and destructive, as long as they promote a radical left-wing message. In fact, they'll bend over backwards to enable their bad behavior as long as the tards don't bring the protest to their doorstep.
The ones that protest left-wing policies and governance, even ones conducted by a bunch of working-class truck drivers who are basically responsible for ensuring these people don't die of starvation, are slagged by the media and the political establishment with the usual commie power-words like "racist" and portrayed with the usual commie playbook as counter-revolutionaries. Just watch the presser that Castro's Baby Boy held before he yeeted out of sight due to "COVID."
These people are fine with protests that turn violent and destructive, as long as they promote a
radical left-wingwoke-corporate messageFTFY
I think according to any traditional understanding of "left wing" we would say that the workers standing up for their rights against the business owners and government elites would be the ones on the left wing, with the business owners and government elites branding them 'racists' because 'goddam filthy reds' doesn't work anymore.
The smartest thing management can do is put little red stars on their caps while they crush the counter-revolutionary insurrection of the racist workers.
" who are basically responsible for ensuring these people don't die of starvation "
How long before automated trucks cause truck drivers to rely on handouts from people with proper education and marketable skills in the modern economy?
At least 35-40 years.
Self-driving technology and infrastructure isn't where you think that it is.
Will robots load/unload the trucks?
Whenever it is, you'll thankfully long be dead, you slack-jawed, slope-foreheaded hicklib.
Truck drivers listen to Books On Tape and podcasts too, and are probably way more articulate than your copypasta.
Once a truck driver, always a truck driver? Ignorant idjit.
Yeah..all those gender studies and sociology majors who became very rich running companies providing services to governments who create a demand not based on the market but by the politicians themselves. Show me a rich "smart" democrat and I'll show you someone who enriched themselves on "govt" regulations. They bounce around from the DNC to some grifter "non profit", to some congressional or executive branch department, help to pass legislation and then run to say a hedge fund to cash in. Ending big govt would stop this. The best possible thing for the country is a 1% occupancy rate on commercial buildings in DC and Northern VA.
I'm just curious how violent the Freedom Convoy has to get before we can call it "mostly peaceful."
What if they did that in blackface?
" Where are truckers are making their mistake is that they're not burning down buildings and haven't looted any stores. "
Where truckers made their mistake was avoiding education and becoming drivers. When automated vehicles make drivers obsolete, should other Americans provide handouts to those who lack marketable skills in the modern economy?
Some people may recall the horn-blaring, belligerently ignorant, virus-flouting protesters and answer "no. Let the unemployed former truck drivers eat their goofy red hats."
Which, I hope, will be delicious and nutritious.
You obviously don't understand transportation infrastructure and the current limits of automated technology. Automated transportation of goods are coming, but not before your an old man.
The transportation industry is heavily unionized, the Rev's "betters" will never allow it to become fully automated
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONK.
“….should other Americans provide handouts…” to Canadian truckers?
No. Go back to sleep, old man.
Well we really don't need HR managers either or for that matter elementary ed teachers...let's keep going..no social workers, many federal agencies could be shut down and on and on. Liberals are mostly parasites who don't product anything...just play folks against each other and grift..mfers
U will be long dead before your little vision of the future arrives. By the way u ignorant shithead...., truck drivers, plumbers, electricians, builders, mechanics and so forth R what makes the world function. U... on the other hand r but baggage humanity can do without. Really dude.... Neither the world or family will miss u for even a millisecond.
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We now have evidence from law enforcement-
Stop right there.
Right. Just call it what it is. The government asked GFM to delete the fundraiser, and they deleted the fundraiser.
One question I have is, does GFM get to keep their cut of the money when they refund donations?
Jeff was very set on saying the Government was not forcing or asking GFM to do anything. Then again Jeff is an idiot.
The Ottowa government very clearly said the day prior that they were going to ask GFM to cut off the funds. Then GFM cut off the funds based on "information from law enforcement." Then the Ottowa police thanked GFM on Twitter for cutting off the funds.
Jeff is an idiot.
Good thing government coercion of private companies can't happen in the USA.
Hey, they "asked". I understand they even said "pretty please with cherries on top".
who runs GFM? Follow the money..follow the background, follow the culture...bolsheviks..to the core
I believe they just announced that they'd be refunding the donations, after several Republican governors laid out the implicit threat of a fraud prosecution against them. So now the protest is using an alternate crowdfunding site, but this one doesn't have the reach GFM does, so their site has been crashing quite a bit due to people shifting their donations.
It is pretty absurd how transparently evil this becomes. You can only fund protests of the government if the ruling government accepts your protest. The second they decide it is inconvenient, that funding gets stripped.
People should take this to heart and understand that funding any sort of protest via one of these platforms is risky if it is inconvenient to the ruling government.
I see a business opportunity, Overt 🙂
Not only that, but parts of the Canadian government are trying to make it illegal to support the Truckers. Providing them food, propane, or fuel.
Hey, just like we do to people providing meals to the homeless.
Yep! In Nova Scotia you can't even support them from an overpass:
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/nova-scotia-responds-to-trucker-convoy
The Canadians really need to overthrow their government.
...Ottawa cops issued 450 tickets for infractions that include "excessive noise," fireworks displays, seatbelt violations, disobeying a sign, an "improper muffler," an obstructed license plate, driving on a suspended license, running a red light, and "driving through a no truck route."
They won't stand for any of that True North Strong and Free shit in Ottawa.
They won't stand for it....but they might allow some hockey players to kneel for it if they can say it's race related.
GoFundMe Rejects Fundraising for Canadian Freedom Convoy
That's a strange way to say "GoFundMe attempted to steal millions of dollars from donors to the Canadian Freedom Convoy".
The scary part is that it's an open question on whether they could have done so legally. On the one hand, it's a blatant violation of the basic precepts of contract law, but on the other hand, the Section 230 Superprecedent means that Muh Priavte Company is not bound by contract law.
^
Next: 401ks then bank accounts.
Or are we still pretending Big Tech is something other than an arm of The Part
Hmm...
*an arm of The Party
" the Section 230 Superprecedent means that Muh Priavte Company is not bound by contract law."
Section 230 only talks about how liability is assigned to content producers. It says absolutely nothing about contract law. And in this case, with money changing hands, it is clear that funders have a case against them. It is within GFY's- er, GFM's rights to say, "We don't like your cause, we aren't going to take your money." However, once they HAVE taken your money, with the promise to give it to a cause, it is likely fraud not to give the money back. And, BTW: this is why DeSantis said he was having the AG investigate, and why they very quickly rolled over on this.
Overt, I've brought it up before, but go read the Megan Murphy lawsuit. The Silicon Valley judge did in fact bring up that 230 protects against ToS and contract violations.
This is not what the judge said- I think you are misinterpreting it. The judge made 3 points:
1) Section 230 gives Twitter "immunity from liability for traditional editorial functions undertaken by publishers—such as decisions whether to publish, withdraw, postpone or alter content created by third parties."- Note: they are specifically talking about editorial decisions.
2) The Terms of Service do not enjoin Twitter to keep her on the site. That is, nothing in the ToS *contractually* obligated Twitter to maintain her account.
3) Even if there was a "promise" that might be taken to court, she had no injury.
Now, there could be good reasons to argue against 2&3 but the important point is that the judge never says that section 230 prevents the TOS from being applied- just that the TOS don't give an enforceable tort. At the heart of this, the Judge is saying that Twitter has an editorial right to publish or not publish.
In this case, we aren't talking about publish vs not publish. GFY er GFM took peoples' money. They have a 230 protected right to decide whether or not the Truckers' site is published on their platform- that is an editorial decision. But to take someone's money under the promise it is going to the Truckers, and to NOT do so is not ever, and never will be considered an "editorial decision".
Megan Murphy does not apply here.
the TOS don't give an enforceable tort
"S230 doesn't say anything about tort law by effectively nullifying tort law." - Overt
""S230 doesn't say anything about tort law by effectively nullifying tort law." - Overt"
You are misinterpreting what I said even more than usual. The judge said the Terms of Service don't obligate Twitter to keep her account. He didn't say "Because of 230". He said that the TOS do not obligate Twitter to keep her account.
This is not unusual, by the way. Courts have OFTEN given broad leeway to companies and their terms of service. They are not the same as a signed contract. (And by the way, this has also been beneficial for consumers. A company cannot use its terms of service to avoid damages for negligence, for example.)
Murphy was kicked off of Twitter for a change to the ToS made AFTER the comment Overt. She was not in violation of any pervious term in the ToS.
I don't know how the judge can claim there was no issue involving contracts and the ToS.
And it's a disingenuous/self-serving refutation of what would otherwise be willfully acknowledged as a chilling effect, selectively invoking the court as microcosm.
"The 'no shirt, no shoes, no service' sign doesn't contractually forbid the proprietors from serving whites without shoes while forbidding blacks without shoes..."
If the proprietors have the ability to reject anyone they please for any reason, then they don't need the 'No shoes' sign or S230.
Again, to be more clear- the Judge's opinion is that there was no Breach of Contract- specifically,
1) As read, the TOS are not a promise (or contractual obligation) to let Murphy always have an account.
2) There was no injury caused by this. (Murphy's suit claims that her "freedom of speech" was injured, but the Judge points out she still has that freedom.)
3) Her complaint that the Speech Policies are being enforced arbitrarily is an attack on Twitter's interpretation of its policies, not a breach of promise.
Again, you can argue that in fact the TOS were a promise, and that Twitter really DID breach that contract, but it is wrong to say that the Judge said 230 prevents it from applying here.
Again, Murphy was in violation solely after a ToS change was made AFTER the contract.
What use is the ToS if it is unenforceable for her following prior terms? It would be an unconscionable contract at that point. There is no way you can support that from a liberty of contracts stand point.
How can you violate the new ToS with a post that was okay prior to the change in ToS? That makes no sense.
Then again, the 9th routinely doesn’t make any legal sense.
Megan Murphy does not apply here.
So, Lebron, at what point does the 1A, the 5A, and the 14A apply? After the Chicomms have replaced the dissidents in Hong Kong?
It's also confirmation bias via de rigeuer vs. de facto. Not to draw broader implications about whether either should stand relative to the other but, "No shirt, no shoes, no service." doesn't discriminate against poor black people because no black people ever filed suit.
Traditionally, this would be *the* prototypical 'chilling effect' on free speech/association.
Pretty much what JesseAz said. Section 230 as written maybe only talks about liability, but as interpreted in every single civil case to date it expands to protection from any obligation under contract law. Perhaps it's just a matter of getting it out of the 9th circuit court. But again, that has yet to happen.
Declaring a state of emergency reflects the serious danger and threat to ...
...the government's power of its citizens.
Can the truckers do the same in Washington, DC? Pretty please?
Canadian truckers: more ‘Merican than American truckers.
They would have to leave their cab fire extinguishers at the MD or VA border.
Lol. Nice.
Yes, they are. Starting in California and already being deplatformed.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10475507/Facebook-REMOVES-page-promoting-Freedom-Convoy-DC-GoFundMe-started-returning-donations.html
Hopefully our #Resistance allies succeed in canceling Joe Rogan. Here's WaPo's Margaret Sullivan explaining why he literally has blood on his hands.
My former colleague, the beloved @miggyrod33, died Monday at 47. I don’t know if he ever listened to Joe Rogan’s podcast; I do know that, with 900,000 Americans dead of Covid, the misinformation spread there is inexcusable.
#LibertariansForCancelCulture
My grandma died in a NY nursing home… because Joe Rogan. That’s a hate crime right there.
I'm sorry to hear that.
But I know there is one person you shouldn't blame — Andrew Cuomo. He literally wrote the book on pandemic response.
#LibertariansForCuomo
Andrew “Hands” Cuomo (D) handled the pandemic response appropriately. We should all give him a big hand.
I'd give him a kick in the shins, and then testicles (assuming he has them) first.
Right; it's not that Cuomo was a good governor, he just played on on tv."
They took his Emmy back!
Because he was a bad actor?
It’s unfortunate that his private sex life is being used against him to keep him out of the Oval Office.
Phailing Phil Murphy borrowed several chapters of that same phucking book Cuomo wrote. I too had a relative die of the China virus in a nursing home. There is an especially warm place awaiting that shithead Murphy when he passes on.
I believe the 9th circle is rather cold
Hey man alot of people have grandma's that died there.
Said in ways world 2 fashion
Really now???? Grandma was a Rogan fan??? Good for her.
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Me: Died at 47, huh?
::looks at his picture, sees that he was massively obese::
Me: Was it COVID or a heart attack that killed him?
Also, that article had massive "selfies at grandpa's funeral" vibes.
Sulliview became Sulladipshit.
he literally has blood on his hands
Shouldn't it be phlegm? It's overwhelmingly not hemorrhagic.
Spotify is paying Rogan, so they're not his "platform", they are his producers and they own responsibility for the content. The column is correct that it has nothing to do with Section 230 but then they fail to factually represent why.
Worldwide Pants produced David Letterman. Not NBC or CBS.
I was going to say the same thing, but Joe does have a point. Whether they are producing or just licensing the content, the decision to publish in this case is Spotify's. This area of "syndication" and "sponsorship" is a gray area on section 230.
His contract explicitly says they are not producers and don't have content allowances to modify his speech. They don't even have power to effect his guest lists.
If his lawyers were better, his contract would have included clauses about not allowing them to pull his episodes.
I think Joe pulled them himself based on the video produced.
Yes, he did. Which I absolutely disagree with as he has no reason to apologize for being taken out of context. Nobody does.
There is a bigger picture here. Rohan’s viewers like him just fine, but outsiders, including Joe Biden, are attempting to silence him. This isn’t an isolated incident either.
None of 5his is academic anymore, so it is now time to remove the democrats and forcibly end their political party. They are attempting to overthrow the constitution. The democrats also both sponsors of, and engage in, ongoing acts of domestic terror.
They have to go.
Perhaps u should read his contract before dispensing more of your 1/2 truths?
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One serious incident has been alleged in the days after GoFundMe's decision: an attempted arson.
Are protests no longer rated Mostly Peaceful if things are set ablaze?
One alleged attempted arson and the whole thing is no longer peaceful. Unlike the firey, but mostly peaceful BLM riots. If it weren't for double standards......
Don't you even equity?
Re: always read the fine print
Guess CDC scientists never took stats 101 in high school.
Too busy taking woke math and learning to express how numbers make them feel.
If math weren't so racist, they would have gone deeper into the subject.
"Rising mortgage rates are unlikely to thwart inflation in the housing market."
Ummmmmmm, what inflation in the housing market? Reason's leading economics expert says the i-word is just wingnut.com disinformation.
#DefendBidenAtAllCosts
You mean my house is falling in value?!
You didn't build that!
Increasing the cost of something doest lower inflation? Egad man that's economic brilliance
I nominate OBL to receive the 'anti anti Nobel Prize' for economics.
That is a thing
https://cen.acs.org/people/awards/2021-Ig-Nobel-Prizes/99/i33
The ig noble prize
I looked at those. The ones about why pedestrians don't collide, and why sometimes they do collide, are remarkably practical.
These are major issues with everything from self driving cars to delivery robots. In fact, one of the biggest problema for self driving cars is that they don't have the ability to deal with the irrational behavior of some drivers. It could be even worse for a delivery bot driving down a sidewalk on a busy street.
one of the biggest problema for self driving cars is that they don't have the ability to deal with the irrational behavior of some drivers
My wife would say I have the same problem.
What if you have a mortgage on your tobacky farm?
Then the mortgage increases in value every month, despite on-time payments = OBL's 'anti anti economic law'
Houses are made of spittin' tobacky.
An AP investigation into a federal prison for women in Dublin, California, "has found a permissive and toxic culture at the Bay Area lockup, enabling years of sexual misconduct by predatory employees and cover-ups that have largely kept the abuse out of the public eye."
Those private prisons need to be shut down!
If we want more compliance with the law, we have to set all the prisoners free!
An AP investigation into a federal prison for women in Dublin, California, "has found a permissive and toxic culture at the Bay Area lockup, enabling years of sexual misconduct by predatory employees and cover-ups that have largely kept the abuse out of the public eye."
You know what would instantly fix this? Implementing the Koch / Soros / Reason soft-on-crime #EmptyThePrisons agenda.
#CheapLaborAboveAll
I thought when I read that they were talking about VP 'Heels Up' Harris. She has years of experience being a 'side piece' and 'climbing the corporate ladder'.
From the substack on masking that ENB linked to:
https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/mask-studies-reach-a-new-scientific
"Worse however, was how little we learned during COVID19. The CDC did not run a single randomized controlled trial (RCT)...Meanwhile, there are no RCTs in kids, a catastrophic research failure."
So the CDC, in addition to publicizing pretty graphics that over-emphasize statistically insignificant data has completely wasted any opportunity to actually perform research. And all the usual suspects screeching about the science with their PHDs were too busy screeching to actually perform research. These are our Top Men.
It's almost as if the effectiveness of masks is beside the point.
I think they knew they were innefective (professional use n95 excepted) from the start. But they needed to "do something" to avoid panic and assert authority so they could have control when needed.
So no studies needed or wanted.
True. They knew most people didn't have access to effective masks, so they thought they'd mollify them by saying cloth masks were a suitable substitute — but not gaiters, had to draw the line somewhere.
This seems to be a new impulse. I can't imagine that years ago they'd've tried to fool people about the effectiveness of various materials for radiation protection in case of nuclear fallout. They made a point about the ineffectiveness of substitutes for safety belts in cars, such as holding on to children by one's arms. As soon as they knew, they'd tell you just how effective a particular batch of vaccine was against a particular seasonal flu strain.
But now they lie their mouths off about evaluations of safety and effectiveness of, not just masks, but any of various preventions and treatments for CoVID-19, either elevating or belittling them according to whim.
Get woke! The primary goal of mask mandates, like all other COVID policy, is not medical impact but social justice. Teaching people to conform to edicts is step one.
If the DC actually ran a study, they know the results would show that they are retard polititions who lie. Easier to not do the study so it doesn't leak
Here's some research for you Overt:
In both red and blue states, new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths (approaching 900k) are driven by the unvaccinated in clear and high numbers. There is no debate on this.
Get your f..king shot and tell your buddies. Until then your screwing the economy, the country, and maybe your family and friends.
sorry, you were fooled by the MSM misinformation.
Dont feel bad, happened to Sotomeyor too.
Jimbo, I personally know 2 docs dealing with this in the ICU and the ER. I repeat, there is no alternative data to this and even red states run by GOP governors report the same information.
you dont know shit, and you received data from news sources intent on misleading you.
Take your L and walk
I didn't think so Jimbo. Come back when you've got something.
How does my immuno-compromised, unvaxxed kid recovering from COVID in three days with only mild symptoms, while vaxxed people have still died from COVID, fit in to this little tempter tantrum of yours?
It is like you are harboring a terror cell!
My favorite articles have been the relatives of the dead vaxxed blaming unvaxxed people for their vaxxed relatives dying of COVID.
Bitches, if Fauci's Wellness Tonic isn't keeping your relative alive, then the vax probably isn't what it's cracked up to be, is it?
Barbie Jack, it's ironic to hear that from you after you went off crying the last few threads.
Joe, stop spreading misinformation. Or you will be dealt with.
I know an ER doc too and he's laughed about the "effectiveness" of masks from day one. He does believe in the temporary effectiveness of the "vaccines" when used by older folks but acknowledges their long term effect on kids and younger adults is still unknown.
Sounds like the doctors I work with.
But when the "message" is essentially propaganda, little things like accuracy and truthfulness don't matter do much.
I personally know 2 docs dealing with this in the ICU and the ER.
No you don't.
Joe-
Do you really think nobody notices you changing the subject? I'm talking about the masking that CDC continues to push in an unscientific way, and you want to change the subject to vaccinations. Why? Because you hate that spotlight being shown on how wrong you and your ilk have been.
Two fucking years of lockdowns, forced mandates, and completely unscientific child abuse. YOU refuse to push back on that, or hold any of your Dear Leaders accountable for this abuse. Instead, you want to talk about people dying after making free choices. I'm perfectly fine with a person rolling the dice and deciding they don't need the vaccination. If they later die of COVID, then that is completely on them.
I am also completely against the clowns in this government making draconian, unscientific rules. And enablers like yourself who come on here like condescending asses, without an ounce of humility or contrition for coming on and spreading unscientific nonsense in the past.
Your first words to me, I believe, were "Grow up!" Well part of being grown up is taking responsibility for your actions. GROW UP, Joe. Grow up and show a little contrition for all the bullshit you have been spreading since March of 2020.
How can a little Grey box change a subject?
Contrition requires having a moral conscience, Overt. You might be sorely disappointed here with Joe....(Biden or Friday).
Just two more weeks.
Overt, you're jacking off on nits while ignoring the obvious and deadly evidence leading to only one conclusion. Here it is again:
In both red and blue states, new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths (approaching 900k) are driven by the unvaccinated in clear and high numbers. There is no debate on this.
Get your f..king shot and tell your buddies. Until then your screwing the economy, the country, and maybe your family and friends.
Shorter Joe: "Please please please stop talking about all my Dear Leaders advancing lockdowns, and masking little children. It is making me uncomfortable! Let's talk about something else!"
he knows he doesnt have shit so he has to change the subject.
Up next: but TRUMP did an INSURRECTION!!
The Cdc already stated that the comment section of reason knows more then them, and has for at least 2 years. Joe has Noone to turn to.
Here's something for you Jimbo:
In both red and blue states, new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths (approaching 900k) are driven by the unvaccinated in clear and high numbers. There is no debate on this.
"There is no debate on this."
You are now acting like a spoiled toddler. Whether vaccination is good or bad, kids should not be forced to mask in school. The good or bad of vaccination does not apply.
And everyone can see that your desire to shout loudly about vaccinations is a petulant and childish attempt to distract from the fact that your preferred leaders are hypocritical tyrants. You might as well be screaming about Jews with these non-sequiturs.
Grow up and learn to have normal conversations, Joe.
Joe Friday is a net drag on these threads.
There is no debate on this.
There is clearly debate on this as well as on the number of 'Covid' related deaths in the death count. There is serious debate, a plethora of bad data and skewed stats with no research to back them.
Regardless of what your friendly neighborhood Docs and RNs are telling you.
There are (were) three pillars of the COVID regime: (1) lockdowns, (2) masks, (3) MRNA vaccinations.
The first pillar has already crumbled, thoroughly discredited even in the MSM. The second pillar, masking, is now largely the subject of ridicule and is in the final stages of coming down as we speak. Old Joe has intellectually retreated to the the last remaining refuge of the COVID doom cult — the vaccines. It does not seem to occur to him that his faith in the vaccines is founded on the promises of the same group of hack scientists who have been catastrophically wrong about every major policy recommendation and prediction since March 2020.
Such a good slave.
Debate or not, we now know that vaccines have a significant benefit in preventing serious illness and death for the individual, but only marginal benefit in preventing mild (or symptomless) infection and spread. In other words, the uptake of vaccines in the population has almost nothing to do with your personal risk.
So take as many boosters as you wish and STFU.
Stop lying Joe. None of what you’re saying is true. Just admit you’re lying.
I'm perfectly fine with a person rolling the dice and deciding they don't need the vaccination. If they later die of COVID, then that is completely on them.
This is the primary divide. But the bitter aging hippies and their offspring who run this country can't countenance people coming to different conclusions on risk tolerance, and are terribly immature about mortality.
Joe-
"Do you really think?..."
Stop right there. This is asshole Joe and you're asking if he thinks?
Joe Friday needs to be muted or simply denied response. If it is not a deliberate troll, then it simply has never once given any real consideration to anything anyone else has had to say. It continually posts old and irrelevant studies with low sampling or odd-ball cites that correspond 100% to Progressive talking points. It completely ignored the Scottish data analysis of the millions of users of their national health care system from January which clearly demonstrates that any number of shots older than 4 months had no advantage for hospitalizations or deaths over no shots.
Joe Friday is, by my best guess, an FBI plant trying to scare up death threats because they equate anti-big-state libertarians with terrorists. White Mike likes to rub up against his calves like a sweet little pussy.
If there is any justice in the universe, they both die gasping and choking as their lungs fill with fluid.
I would never mute Old Joe. His tears are so salty.
I agree with you that adults should get their f’ing shots.
The funny thing is that many, many of the commenters here who engage in daily partisan-driven disparagement of the vaccines have actually been vaccinated themselves. So, don’t assume Overt hasn’t been vaccinated. He may very well be vaccinated, but still talking about how bad the vaccines are.
Because the vaccines are shit, as they don't stop people from getting infected or sick.
How is that funny? It's actually called having moral principles.
The partisan political impetus for these debates is coming from the side that want's to force everyone to comply with mandates. There is no equivalence to be made when one side wants to control everyone and the other wants to leave people alone.
Zeb, it's a contagious disease - you didn't know that? - and to spread it you have to catch it. Unvaccinated people are more likely to catch it and spread it, thus f..king up others, the economy, and the country.
Get your shot and tell your buddies to do the same.
Fuck you. Mind your own business.
"Unvaccinated people are more likely to catch it and spread it"
Citation required.
CB
And if true, at this point it's a very small difference. And vaccinated people are being tested less often, so it's pretty hard to say.
A couple true morons lecturing everyone. Allowing a needle to go into your arm doesn't mean that you need to screech about everyone getting one. It also doesn't mean that said needle will actually do anything to improve your life. The fact the people are as stupid as those two should give anyone less stupid hope for a bright future.
And if true, at this point it's a very small difference.
It is demonstrably not true now. There is no reason to believe it ever was other than the word if the vaccine makers.
Joe, it's life. You'll never be free of risks.
Unvaccinated people are more likely to catch it and spread it
Not any more...
Get shot and tell your buddies to do the same.
"I agree with you that adults should get their f’ing shots."
Look here is Mike parachuting in to also try and change the subject. Like Joe, he is bitter that the Left is beclowning itself over masks, lockdowns and mandates. Again. So he will do anything he can to change the subject to try and poke fun at anti vaxxers. Here is an example of him doing so again:
https://reason.com/2022/01/07/mandatory-gmo-disclosure-doesnt-sway-shopping-habits-but-will-drive-up-costs/?comments=true#comment-9293589
"He may very well be vaccinated, but still talking about how bad the vaccines are."
Oh, and this is just one more example of Mike arguing in bad faith. Mike has claimed to mute me, so either he doesn't actually know what I tend to argue, or he has been lying all along.
Even worse, he is misrepresenting what I have said, like the troll that he is. I have never talked about "how bad the vaccines are". The worst I have done is pointed out that- especially among healthy, young males- the risks of myocarditis are shown to be higher than the risks of COVID. I have shown my work, and in fact Dr Prasad (whom he and other lefties loved to post in rebuttal to Dr Malone) agrees:
https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/uk-now-reports-myocarditis-stratified
This is yet another example of Mike being here to stir shit up, while claiming to be interested in non-partisan conversations. Engage with him at your peril, because he will never admit he is wrong, will lie about what you say (as above) and continue to try and derail the threads.
Mike has claimed to mute me, so either he doesn't actually know what I tend to argue, or he has been lying all along.
LOL, of course the wimpy little twerp is lying. He's directly quoted my exact words in posts while claiming that he's got me blocked, so I know he religiously reads my stuff. He just doesn't respond like he does to Ken because 1) he knows I haven't blocked him like Ken did, and 2) I'll laugh in his fucking face at anything he posts.
Mike can't even handle relatively mild rebukes from anodyne posters like Square = Circle without performatively blocking them. He's a coward, a liar, and disingenuous piece of monkey shit.
Yup- I have suspected this as well. He only tends to jump in on my calling him out if he can get a good defense from one of the other lefties.
The rest of the time he pretends he has everyone muted because *he isn't here to have conversations*. If he was, he'd actually cow[boy|girl] up and have a conversation. Instead, muting people is a cheap troll's way to pretend he was a victim of unfair smears and attacks.
"The funny thing is that many, many of the commenters here who engage in daily partisan-driven disparagement of the vaccines have actually been vaccinated themselves. So, don’t assume Overt hasn’t been vaccinated. He may very well be vaccinated, but still talking about how bad the vaccines are."
Saying the vaccine is not super effective and that nobody should be FORCED to take it is different than saying "nobody should be allowed to take it".
THAT would be an anti-vax position.
You can fuck right off too, slaver apologist.
In both red and blue states, new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths (approaching 900k) are driven by the vaccinated in clear and high numbers. There is no debate on this.
FTFY.
U can't possibly be for real dude. Ignorance is truly blissful in your useless little pea like brain. "They" lie..., and u through it up all over society. Gross dude.... Just f-ing gross.
The Phucko Knows
Fuck off, slaver.
Top men don't RCT studies, they use N = i, as in idea. Their ideas are so profound, not study is needed.
N = i, as in idea
i already stands for imaginary.
Test
"But when they spell out what this means, most of it is relatively minor stuff. For instance, Ottawa cops issued 450 tickets for infractions that include "excessive noise," fireworks displays, seatbelt violations, disobeying a sign, an "improper muffler," an obstructed license plate, driving on a suspended license, running a red light, and "driving through a no truck route."
Hooliganism. That what the Soviets called it. Then they bashed them some heads.
Broke: The whole point of protesting is to make you feel uncomfortable
Woke: Making me feel uncomfortable is racist violence
Or harassment of protesters by local police under orders from the politicians....
You know...
Potato, po-tah-to...
How many citations did they issue for the BLM protests last year?
You miss on the GoFundMe summary is that GoFundMe not only allowed funding for BLM protests, they explicitly recommended and supported a campaign for Chaz/chop... This is a literal occupation, with violence, vandalism and even rape.
So no, their standards argument does not stand up to scrutiny
A lie by omission. ENB loves those.
GoFundMe received an illegal but formal government department (RCMP) request to shut down the fundraiser, and complied.
This is in no way a "private company" request no matter how the Mike, Shrike and Jeff's of the world try to spin it.
This is in no way a "private company" request no matter how the Mike, Shrike and Jeff's of the world try to spin it.
This is the very thing that we spent an entire summer trying to explain to Mutt and Jeff. Regardless of their original intent, when protestors refuse to disperse when violence begins and divert resources from apprehending the violent actors, they are giving cover to the violent actors. They are complicit.
The corporations that give cover to the governments illegal requests are complicit. The douchebags in the comments who confound, deflect and distract are complicit.
You are guilty of conspiring to take away our liberty. If there is ever a reckoning, you deserve no mercy.
"...and other unlawful activity,..."
Creating a nuisance!
https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1490697065302736903?t=PhiVHs46CtDe9JQd3veoDg&s=19
Another grinning maskless Democrat politician surrounded by masked people including kids.
It’s not hypocrisy. It’s hierarchy. She’s projecting her power by stating that the rules for peasants do not apply to her.
[Link]
Covid is the control; you are the test subject.
As was always the plan, the elite chosen politician are just more equal animals than the pleb scum
If masks are to “protect others”, she must hate children.
She looks at children and just sees veal.
That weight doesn't gain itself, you know.
She does have that happy cannibal look.
I don't know. Needs some whiteface.
The face masks make a nice wrapper to help prevent the juices from running all over her hands while she gorges herself.
Rising mortgage rates are unlikely to thwart inflation in the housing market.
If only the government could do something else about artificially contracted housing markets.
An Illinois judge has ruled against the state's masks-in-schools mandate.
The New Normal takes another hit.
Illinois also recently experienced a 50%-ish reduction in Covid case counts.
(After testing was shut down for a couple of weeks due to winter weather)
Illinois is over their winter peak.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/did-the-vax-pass-save-chicago
Economics works. You get more of what you subsidize, and they have been subsidizing COVID tests since day one.
Looks kids, Big Ben. Parliament!
You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war.
The Soviet Union has left the chat.
As a general statement, this is hilariously false.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Talk softly and carry a big stick.
Or something chambered in 9mm para bellum.
The 7.62x39 has left the chat.
The right to bear arms shall not be impinged.
Teddy bears arms?
You Tube lawyer Viva Frei did a live stream from the protest and sought out the counter protest to air their views.
It was interesting. They mostly seemed to be upset about the disruption of their lives.
But there were also political organizers present.
They used identical tactics to leftist protests in the US. They attempted to block anyone from speaking to anyone other than approved media. A couple of people followed him around and tried to block him, block his camera, telling him to leave and telling people not to speak to him.
The political beliefs of those who were motivated by them were straightforward socialist authoritarianism.
"Nobody is forcing anyone to get a vaccine. You have a choice. If you don't want a vaccine, you don't have to get it. You just suffer the consequences.".
"We have to do things for the greater good. We have to obey the government.".
That sort of thing.
https://youtu.be/bhFuL4aOt_o
I found the shared DNA with US BLM and Antifa tactics very interesting. Almost as if their shared roots in the international communist party have an impact on their tactics.
That is because it is, Cyto = shared roots in the international communist party have an impact on their tactics
Good callout.
They're all part of the same organization
Also interesting... A few counterprosters expressed support for BLM and compared these "illegal" truck protests with BLM.
"This is an occupation". BLM never did that. They never occupied an area for days. They never blew horns. They were peaceful and they were not disruptive to the city".
Leftist psychosis is intentional and dangerous
Can you imagine being this delusional?
Where do you think the term "useful idiot" comes from?
I am sure one of the regulars will be along shortly to tell you that references to Marxism mean nothing because Marxism is in the eye of the beholder.
We've heard lame excuses for that cop killing Babbitt already: 'trespassing is a capital offense' and other bullshit, but our new pile of lefty shit hit the jackpot last night:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Yep, to that asshole, murder is now an accepted preventative measure if those killed *might*, in the future, done something to which the lefty shit objects.
The chamber was full of Representatives and there were hundreds behind Babbit who had overcome police who did not shoot to kill when the capital was invaded. They should have and it would have all ended quickly.
So the crowd mentioned in this tweet should have been gunned down en masse?
http://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1267304623372673024
1 or 2 would have done it.
What would your Donnie Brasco friend have done?
Whichever muted pile of lefty shit that is, s/he deserves a rusty pitchfork up the ass.
You're a fucking psycho.
Whichever muted pile of lefty shit that is, s/he deserves a rusty pitchfork up the ass.
Exactly. Ashli’s actions dir not rise to using deadly force. The three officers that had been there literally a minute earlier that mysteriously walked away had been doing an ok job of deescalation. OC spray would have been warranted. Murder was not. Not even close.
Ashli attempted to forcibly enter an area with many representatives present, with hostile intent, and unknown weapons. The job of those cops are to protect our elected leaders, not play footsy with hostile intruders 20' away from those leaders. Unfortunately her shooting was justified.
No. It wasn’t. No matter how many orgasms you have about it. Unarmed trespasser =/ deadly threat.
Oh, did Ashli go through a security scan?
Unarmed trespasser =/ deadly threat.
With her being dead, they did check the body, you realize.
Like I said, you're a fucking psycho.
Yes, protect the Dear Leader above all. Even if we have to kill all the peasants.
Goddamn Barbie Jack, you're turning outright evil here.
Try to tone down the schadenfreude boner you sick fuck.
"They should have and it would have all ended quickly."
As the Tsar's military did on Bloody Sunday [1905]? When I saw someone called you a true psycho, I unmuted you just out of curiosity. Good to see you actually own what you believe. I like transparency, especially from those who condone mass murder.
That just popped into my head and then saw your post. Twelve years after, there was no more tsarist regime.
Right, that is considered to be one of the primary reasons for the fall of the Romanovs. I think Rasputin is a close second.
the reps were already removed from the chamber when Babbit was shot dummy.
The process was ongoing and the cop at the end of the hall coming off the floor. Even if that were true - link please - he wouldn't know that.
Your claim is now cops have no radios? Lol.
You are free to educate yourself on the timelines Joe. You dont care to do so.
I don't see a link Jesse.
Asshole Joe doesn't do "education"; interferes with the narrative.
Only and idiot like Friday would compare cops OPENING THE GATES and waving folks into the building...., as on par with STORMING the gates. My GOD what a f-ing idiot. Why does Reason protect this moron and the garbage spewing from his pie hole?
The Phucko Knows
There were also three armed guards with actual automatic weapons who didn’t fire a single shot.
Remember this?
http://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1267304623372673024
By his logic, the cops could have machine gunned the "peaceful protesters" in front of Lafayette Square.
Or are some insurrections more equal than others?
The Lafayette Square protesters hadn't broken into the capital building claiming they were looking for elected leaders.
You get the difference, right?
But they might have! Who knows?
The Phucko?
None of the rioters at the Capitol committed arson there.
Oh, well, then none of the other things they did count.
Trump was sent to the bunker, so the security forces should have killed all of them, right?
Whichever muted pile of lefty shit that is, s/he deserves a rusty pitchfork up the ass.
Hoping for some of your Mike Hihn magic on this one.
Have you ever looked at Hihn's obit? Truly and angry and miserable old man.
One of them showed his high school graduation photo. I enjoyed battling him; he would occasionally break character and one could have a real conversation with him. I dismissed the ALL CAPS RAGE posts as an angry old man that was mad about his life wasted.
Hey, that asshole supposedly 'turned me in' to one of the Kock brothers, first on his list of internet bullies!
I was so proud!
You might have been a member of the CHRISTIAN CALIPHATE!!!
The CDC’s tiny footnote for cloth masks says that the data for it was “not statistically significant.”
The fine print small enough to pass through the fibers of a neck gaiter.
I thought masks were to protect others?
Why are they talking about the wearer?
My mask protects you, your mask protects me, but my mask doesn't protect me, and your mask doesn't protect you.
Well, duh, neither one of you is double-masked.
JUST TRADE MASKS ALREADY.
I laughed.
You laugh, but it’s true. The virus can go in the mask but not out. Kind of like a check valve or a crab trap. Do you even science?
It is like a horror tale. The Mask of Amontillado.
Played ad nauseum about Rogan on every network: mash up of him doing the "who can say n word" bit and quoting other comics saying it.
Easily googlable but never mentioned: Howard Sterns many years of openly saying hard R N*****, doing sketches where he shits on blacks as lesser humans for being N*****s. Oh, also, Stern happens to toe the party line nowadays, and is a pro-vax zealot. What a coincedence.
Stern was absolutely merciless during David Dinkins mayoralty. If they played today whet he created then, there would be riots in the street.
Imagine playing Frank Zappa's 'He's So Gay' or 'You Are What You Is' today.
One that comes to mind was "you know what you call a black man with a doctorate in [X]"..."a N*****"
Its almost as if this is just being used to control and silence, and they dont actually care as long as you sit down, shut up, and parrot the party talking points.
What, no call-out to "Dong for Yoda"?
keep it greasy so it'll go down easy...
Cy Borg.
Stop trying to find principles where there aren't any. The proge were lining up in the capitol to shake Dick Cheney's hand, they are embracing George W. Bush. They praise Mitt Romney, when they called him a dog-abusing, woman hating racist Nazi.
The only guiding priciple is power.
it's all a psy-op but i do get the sense people aren't buying as much as they used to. By "used to" I mean six months ago..
"As a private company, GoFundMe can associate with whatever causes it wants."
...just as long as the local authoritarian government gives permission.
In some way GFM may have done the truckers/donors a solid. The dictators in Ottawa were trying to steal the funds via a lawsuit. Better have the money returned than in the hands of your enemy.
also dropping the mask completely, showing they are true Stalinists. even the wafflers are now seeing the Cathedral for what it is.
"As a private company, GoFundMe can take direct orders from the RCMP."
I hold a little sympathy for GoFundMe here. The federal government announced that it was telling GoFundMe to shut down the campaign. GoFundMe could have said no, but it's hard to do when the RCMP is issuing a formal request (demand).
Of course the federal governments request was completely illegal. A gross violation of the Charter of Rights & Freedoms which is part of the Canadian Constitution, but the feds will worry about fighting lawsuits over it months from now. When the protests are effectively suppressed.
the proper response to such a request is
"Go pound sand you goddamn fascists"
GFM would have had a couple mean blue=check twitter responses from the commies and otherwise they would have soared. Dumbasses.
On the police action in Ottawa, there was some change last night.
They are reporting that the police are blocking fuel and food deliveries, arresting anyone attempting to bring supplies to the protesters. They have also blocked access to hotels, hoping to freeze them out and force people to leave so they can be blocked from returning.
They have also blocked access to restrooms, so they can arrest people for going in public and use that as an excuse for cracking down.
Reported live last night on multiple live streams. I watched a few, but I spent about a half hour rummaging through some guy named Portland Andy on YouTube. Seems to be a total stoner, but he had a lot of Livestream pouring in to one location. (Or maybe the stoner wasn't Portland Andy. I am not to clear on which of the people were which, and I just assumed the guy hitting the pipe in front of his computer screen was the host. )
Yep. It's crazy out there.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/canada-making-protest-even-more-illegal
They are reporting that the police are blocking fuel and food deliveries, arresting anyone attempting to bring supplies to the protesters. They have also blocked access to hotels, hoping to freeze them out and force people to leave so they can be blocked from returning.
They have also blocked access to restrooms, so they can arrest people for going in public and use that as an excuse for cracking down.
Even the blacks and trannies? How are true classical liberals like Gary Johnson and Scott Shackford supposed to get their gay wedding cakes baked for them under such conditions?
Protestors now are carrying gas cans while demonstrating. I love these guys.
Maybe this works...
https://gettr.com/post/pt36kbc3f0
Test...
You passed with flying colors, Nardz. Grade was an 'A'. 🙂
Gracias.
But for whatever reason it did not like a particular Twitter link.
Reason gets a grade of D-
A story about Canadian truckers should get a grade eh.
No shipping stories out of Canada, like here in California? The heck’s that all a boat??
Hmm, nope.
No more Red Man: Chewing tobacco brand shifts away from Native American imagery, becomes America’s Best: report
Published: Feb. 05, 2022, 6:30 a.m.
https://www.pennlive.com/news/2022/02/no-more-red-man-chewing-tobacco-brand-shifts-away-from-native-american-imagery-becomes-americas-best-report.html
RED MAN CANCELLED!
turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd traffics in kiddie porn, is a TDS-addled asshole and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Don't forget to remind everyone that spittin' tobaccy is literally the only item that has risen in price recently. By 10 cents per pouch.
#LibertariansForBiden
Spittin’ terbacky is big news these days!
"SPITTUN' TERBACCY!!"
A few years back you posted kiddy porn to this site, and your initial handle was banned. Rather than follow the will of Reason’s staff, you resurrected that identity and continue to post here. A decent person would realize how abhorrent this behavior is, burn the SPB identity and return under some new handle. While that wouldn’t change your despicable appetites, it would at least respect a community’s wishes to not mix with pedophiles. But since you have no shame, the only thing I and others can do is point out your past behavior rather than converse with you.
Or you might mention that the pederast is incapable of honesty.
Why was your original account CANCELLED?
Turn yourself in for child pornography.
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1490630163901521920?t=OhUmUnWFqg9o5-lCrXa-FQ&s=19
Andrew Yang tweets Joe Rogan is 'not racist,' before deleting it because it 'hurt people'
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I'm sorry but I'm beginning to see the rampant posting of no-shit truth followed by an immediate retraction as a novel use of Twitter's platform to distribute no-shit truth. Admittedly, it would be preferable that they not have to apologize but, at the same time, I'm not really sorry.
The replies to this tweet are hilarious.
Wretched Esq
@WretchedEsq>/i>
5h
You'll have your turn. The guillotine was just as sharp for Robespierre as it was for anyone else.
If I had a Twitter account, I would follow this guy. So rarely do you see any accuracy in references involving a guillotine or Robespierre. People say Jacobin like it was a badge of honor and not a murderous bunch of idiots with fantasies of 'how great things would be if only they were in charge'.
So, a former candidate for President admits he caves in to a Twitter mob. Yup, we need that in the WH.
You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war.
This would come as news to every single military strategist in the history of the planet who takes it as a given that the best way to maintain the peace is to be strong enough that nobody wants to fuck with you. But then again, I can't help but notice that Ben and Jerry sent this retarded-ass tweet to Joe Biden and not to Vladimir Putin - they know damn well Putin ain't that goddamn stupid as to listen to those two faggots.
You can, however, not prepare for war and prepare to be invaded at the same time.
Or you can prepare stupidly a la Maginot….
You can’t make good ice cream and military decisions at the same time.
They don't make good ice cream.
That’s correct
it's one of the lamest hippie-bullshit slogans of all time.
Bull. Fucking. Shit. These protesters are ZERO threat to any resident. The only thing under threat is government fiat.
Ottawa's mayor is a big Ontario Liberal Party player and a Klaus Schwab acolyte, so it's only surprising that he hasn't called in the tanks yet.
The chief of the Ottowa police already floated the idea of military involvement, and the military said, "Yeah, fuck you. This is a police issue."
Where is Quebec in all this? Seems like now would be the time to say 'Va te faire foutre, nous avons terminé' to Ottawa.
the fucking Red Guards have been the same since 1917
A thread of leftists begging that others be abused
https://twitter.com/DrLeanaWen/status/1490683302004547587?t=SJl8SRJqdnEZyRXGwVUJjg&s=19
In the coming days, we will see many Governors and local leaders lift mask mandates. This is the right step, and marks a needed shift from government-imposed requirement to individual decision. It helps to preserve public health authority for when it’s needed again. @wolfblitzer [link]
Spotify caving to the mob would be a blow to freedom.
But it would probably be good for Rogan. He already pocketed the money, and probably is owed more.
And going to Spotify proved that his audience is portable. He could probably get an equity deal to go to rumble. He would stand to make a lot of they can him. And he could instantly give credibility to whatever platform he chooses.
Does anyone doubt that he would be highly sought after by alternative platforms?
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1490529132438069252?t=Iyrhj2OpSDAaL1BvEAHxxg&s=19
BREAKING: Spotify CEO apologizes to staff for continuing to host Joe Rogan, says he will continue contract while investing $100M in artists from 'marginalized groups'
Reminder to everyone that the attack on Rogan was a planned, concerted campaign, organized by two Democratic Party PAC's PatriotTakes and MidasTouch. Old Neal didn't come up with this on his own.
This is the Biden administration shutting down voices who oppose it.
"...while investing $100M in artists from 'marginalized groups''
I'd like to see the return on that investment; but then I suppose they will just keep depositing royalties and advertising revenue from Rogan's podcast and call the other a cost of doing business.
I'd like to see the return on that investment
They may be able to find one or two artists from marginalized groups who turn a profit.
Depends on "marginalized".
They count black as marginalized. So Michael Jackson, the biggest pop star of all time.... Marginalized.
Gay counts. So Ricky Martin is double marginalized. Elton John and Freddie Mercury and Melissa Ethridge... Most of the B-52s? .... I dunno. Long list though.
You are going to have to dig deep to find marginalized musicians. Maybe native Americans? Trying to think... The only group I can think of is Redbone. They had "come and get your love". But they chose to name themselves Redbone. So prolly cancelled. That would be a tough ask. It isn't a big community. You could pretend that Kpop and japanese and Chinese pop music don't exist and call Asian Americans "marginalized"....
They count black as marginalized. So Michael Jackson, the biggest pop star of all time.... Marginalized.
Gay counts. So Ricky Martin is double marginalized. Elton John and Freddie Mercury and Melissa Ethridge... Most of the B-52s? .... I dunno. Long list though.
Exactly my point. Entertainment has always been the refuge of the marginalized. Pledging to fund artists from "marginalized communities" when that can include literally the biggest names in the business is a pretty low-risk concession.
Romeo avoid!!! Deborah is Native American!
But remember, if you *talk* about investing to hedge climate change but don't actually *invest* vociferously enough, you're guilty of RICO.
He's sorry. But not sorry enough to drop Rogan and lose all those subscribers.
Plus Rogan can now claim credit for helping support 'marginalized groups', whatever that is.
Working class men? They are seriously marginalized, but I suspect would want fuck all to do with a stupid concept like spotify.
haha! So Joe Rogan just cost Spotify investors 100 mil? WTF
If Rogan jumped to another platform, they’d go under.
haha! So Joe Rogan just cost Spotify investors 100 mil? WTF
No - see my comment above. They just need to invest in marginalized performers like Kanye West and Lady Gaga and put less emphasis on cis-het wypipo like Neil Young and Joni Mitchell.
I think it may not turn out to be a loss at all.
Did someone say EQUITY Deal?!?!?!?!
https://americanmind.org/features/get-ready-for-a-fight/can-the-right-win-a-2020-election-street-fight/
That Ben & Jerry's tweet is dumb. Of course you can simultaneously prevent and prepare for war. Preparing for war is actually one of the best ways to prevent it. Look up "deterrence."
Of course I get why Ben & Jerry would say something like that. They're proud hippies and it's a clear reference to slogans like "fighting for peace is like f*king for virginity." But they're still wrong.
And they're dried out old Stalinists who long for the return of the Soviet Union.
Fucking for virginity is how you make new virgins... Also called kids. Always had a laugh at that one.
Re: Ben & Jerry: What if they opened a store and no one came?
Chemjeff really ripped off the mask last night, and I thought it that I'd share this comment here with those who missed it:
chemjeff radical individualist
February.6.2022 at 9:55 pm
Oh, I've listened to enough of his podcast. He argues with his guests, sure, while giving them a platform.
https://reason.com/2022/02/06/free-the-art-sell-the-art/?comments=true#comment-9342333
This was Rogan's biggest sin according to Jeff. Giving unheard, peaceful voices a platform.
Three years ago giving voice to the unheard would have been fine. Six years ago this would have been considered wonderful. Twelve years ago this would've been celebrated.
It's interesting to see how the clerisy have become so authoritarian, in such a short time, that their tools, such as Jeff, feel comfortable advocating censorship on an ostensibly libertarian site.
Everyone knows jeffy is a dummy.
It's impressive that he's essentially turned into Tipper Gore. Radical individualism in action!
Tipper Gore wanted the state to ban "dirty lyrics". That is not what I am advocating. I advocate that those with large media platforms should use them responsibly. What is so controversial about that?
It is the same way we normally talk about all of our rights. All of us agree here that the drug war should be ended, but I think we would also agree that once drugs are legal, that individuals ought to use their liberty responsibly and not instantly start up a legal heroin habit. Is that such a terrible thing to advocate?
All of us here agree that gun ownership should be legal, but all of us here hopefully would also agree that gun owners should use their liberty responsibly when using their guns. Is that wrong? Is that being the "Tipper Gore" of guns?
NPR further stated that according to Gore, she "wasn't out to censor the objectionable material" and quoted her as stating that she is "a strong believer in the First Amendment" who is calling for greater "consumer information in the marketplace."
The PMRC's efforts were successful and resulted in an agreement where recording labels voluntarily placed warning labels on music with violent or sexually explicit lyrics
You both advocate for private actors to self-censor their platforms out of some common-good concern. Your instincts are the same: you want speech that might cause problems to be suppressed, and are focused most acutely on speech that runs counter to the dominant culture's viewpoint. This is an explicitly anti-liberty position.
The solution to bad speech is good speech, not suppression.
All of us agree here that the drug war should be ended, but I think we would also agree that once drugs are legal, that individuals ought to use their liberty responsibly and not instantly start up a legal heroin habit.
The parallel here would be you arguing for legalization of heroin, and then advocating for pharmas to voluntarily not produce or for freight carriers to not transport the stuff.
Was putting warning labels on record covers censorship?
I have no idea how you are, but I was around for Tipper Gore’s little record labeling war — the actual effect was to tell record buyers which albums to buy for maximum rebelliousness.
Al and Tipper should have paid more attention to their own son, which was a freakin’ mess.
Forced speech is still anti libertarian sea lion.
That is not what I am advocating. I advocate that those with large media platforms should use them responsibly.
This is just a fucking platitude with no heft whatsoever, unlike chemtard radical deathfat's massive gunt.
Jeff, there isn't much, other than your claim, to suggest that you think gun ownership should be legal. The fact that there is a caveat to your ideal of liberty, ' use their liberty responsibly,' suggests strongly that you place yourself and your concept of responsible use before that of of other people.
Do you think he is using his platform irresponsibly? All he's trying to do is talk to people he finds interesting.
What's wrong with group think and censorship asked Jeff.
Fuck off, fascist, and take your Ministry of Truth with you.
"Radical individualism in action!"
Why is it that lefty shits choose handles which are so blatantly the opposite of their revealed tendencies?
"sarcasmic" isn't, jeff is about as 'collective' as it's possible to get without being physically tied to others, asshole Joe wants nothing to do with facts, and on and on.
I can only assume there's a hope others will buy the label rather than the content.
R u serious? Stalin, Mao and Hitler r proud of u boy.
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Oh, ML, but you missed my response. Here, let me share it all for those willing to listen. Please, why don't you calmly and rationally discuss where you disagree. Or, you can just call me a Nazi, your choice.
In my mind at least, the larger one's platform is, the more responsible one should be in how that platform is used. Because the larger one's platform, the more people listen to it, the more people will take those claims seriously, and the more people will potentially suffer as a result of taking those claims seriously.
Do you know why Twitter and Facebook crack down on claims of "COVID misinformation"? It is not because they want to punish or oppress conservatives or anti-vaxxers. It is because they understand this central idea as well - they have enormous platforms, and so they believe they have an obligation to see to it that their platforms are used responsibly. They do not do a very good job of this, but I cannot fault them for taking their responsibilities seriously.
He doesn't have to give a platform to cranks and whackos. He doesn't have to elevate their claims to a higher status than what they would ordinarily merit in the 'marketplace of ideas'. He chooses to do that, often irresponsibly in my view.
If he's going to hand over his microphone to cranks who think the vaccine is poison, or whatnot, he should at least attempt to bring in other points of view who dispute the cranks, so that he is not essentially lying by omission when he only presents the cranks' stories.
The oldest and most highly respected scientific journal in the world, The British Medical Journal (BMJ), recently published a report entitled, “Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial” that calls into question the science behind Pfizer’s vaccine.
Because the report does not unquestioningly praise the jabs as “safe and effective,” Facebook “fact checked” it and deemed it as containing “false information.”
Fiona Godlee, the editor of The British Medical Journal (BMJ), has written a letter to Facebook (Meta) CEO Mark Zuckerberg blasting him for the social media platform’s “inaccurate, incompetent and irresponsible … fact-check” protocols.
It turns out that Facebook contractor “Lead Stories” was responsible for all this censorship. After learning what had happened, Godlee wrote Zuckerberg, highlighting the following points about the so-called “fact check” in her letter to him:
- It did not present any assertions of fact that The BMJ article supposedly got wrong.
- It used the following nonsensical title: “Fact Check: The British Medical Journal Did NOT Reveal Disqualifying And Ignored Reports Of Flaws In Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Trials.”
- The first paragraph inaccurately labeled The BMJ a “news blog.”
- A screenshot of The BMJ report that Facebook posted with a “Flaws Reviewed” stamp over the top of it failed to identify anything false or untrue.
- It published the story on its website under a URL that contains the phrase “hoax-alert.”
- Lead Stories was contacted by The BMJ concerning these and other issues but the company refused to make any changes.
- The BMJ also tried to contact Facebook directly about removing the “fact check,” but was refused.
YOU are the purveyors of dangerous "COVID misinformation", Jeff.
YOU are the cranks and whackos endangering lives through your refusal to allow open discussion and scientific review of experimental technology.
YOU are the ones silencing the worlds premier scientific journals, virologists, cardiologists and epidemiologists.
YOU are the ones pretending idiot fact checkers with journalism degrees are somehow qualified to censor the aforementioned.
YOU are the ones squealing "Science" while pretending science is a rigid set of political beliefs, rather than a method of open inquiry.
You're a force of anti-science, Jeff. Quit pretending your for it.
Shorter version: Jeff is a scared, partisan cunt.
You left out "stupid"; very important.
you forgot obese and scared of covid due to that.
How does this NOT run afoul of British libel and slander laws? They have MUCH lower thresholds.
You're a force of anti-science, Jeff. Quit pretending your for it.
Smart people know this. You know why Joe Friday can get away with saying he knows doctors that support this bullshit? Because doctors are smart. You know who isn't smart? Administrators and politicians. The smart doctors know that. So the smart doctors say whatever the fuck they think will keep the nanny-state administrators and politicians off their backs and out of their hospitals.
Fighting bureaucracy is a losing proposition. Doctors don't spend $300k and 10 years of their life to end up broke because they fought bureaucrats.
I don't know why you think those statements make it seem better. You're openly admitting you are a statist and believe in single avenue information. Anything you disagree with should be silenced. And nominally you support information backed by the government or who you consider elite no matter how wrong they've been in the past. You also through in their being incorrect with them having good intentions.
You've just rationalized authoritarianism.
Not helping your case, unless you WANTED to clarify that you really are a totalitarian cunt who doesn't believe in freedom of much anything.
"They do not do a very good job of this, but I cannot fault them for taking their responsibilities seriously."
Has misinformation that backed the narrative --- and there has been A LOT of misinformation that has done that --- once been shut down by any social media group?
The answer, of course, is no.
When Biden says "The vaccine will prevent you from getting COVID", at a point where it was well known that he was not telling the truth, they did not call it out as misinformation.
"He doesn't have to give a platform to cranks and whackos."
Can you provide a definitive list of cranks and whackos?
Alex Jones has a higher accuracy rating than CNN or MSNBC. Which is sad.
Please, why don't you calmly and rationally discuss where you disagree.
Here, I disagree with this:
Because the larger one's platform, the more people listen to it, the more people will take those claims seriously
Are people supposed to take Southpark seriously? Southpark is bigger than Joe Rogan and they ran an episode where they claimed COVID jumped species when Mickey Mouse fucked a pangolin.
Joe Rogan is an entertainer. He always has been, he has never claimed to be anything else. If people take those claims seriously and those claims are false, those people are stupid, just like anybody that thinks that COVID originated with Mickey Mouse fucking a pangolin is stupid.
The answer to bad speech is more speech. Shutting down bad speech, however good your intentions, is totalitarian. A parent not allowing their kid to read anything but the Bible is totalitarian. A corporation requiring a vaccine for it's employees is totalitarian. A government declaring a speech denouncing it as illegitimate as treasonous is totalitarian.
Now you have a chance to respond rationally. But I don't think you are capable of it.
I thought Randy Marsh fucking the pangolin is what did it.
If the only criticism on my comment is over who fucked the pangolin, I have done my job here.
“Your comment has been fact checked and found to be misinformation.”
And that’s how it’s done.
That doesn’t make you look like any less of a collectivist. Or less of an authoritarian either.
advocating censorship
Where did I advocate censorship again? Be specific. Provide a citation.
Spoiler alert: I never advocated for censorship of Joe Rogan. But ML here is trying to steal a base by claiming that because I don't like him, that I want him silenced. No, I don't want him silenced. I advocate that he, and other individuals with large platforms like himself, should use his platform responsibly.
Idiot.
He is. I have determined he's using it responsibly. The case is therefore settled.
Yeah, that whole "he needs to use it responsibly!" mewling is nothing more than a euphemism for "he needs to run his show like I think he should run it".
To emphasize how nuanced and three-dimensional he is being, I'll simply note he is channeling an Ayn Rand villain.
Throughout that conversation the implication you were making was crystal clear. That Joe Rogan was giving voice to people you disagreed with ("Whackos"), and that this was a bad thing that must be stopped.
You're not tricking anyone here. They can click the link I provided and read the whole thread.
He wants the censorship to be voluntary. That way he knows the state indoctrination has taken hold.
Did you listen to any of his podcasts with McCollum, Berenson, or Malone?
I'm guessing you haven't
Pretty sure that unless someone got his attention first with a 2X4, it wouldn't matter.
Who determines the 'responsible use of a platform', chemjeff?
And what criteria do we use to define 'responsible', chemjeff?
How is 'irresponsible platform use' addressed, chemjeff?
Your entire quoted piece you used to defend yourself implies you are pro censorship. You hide behind the "but I don't want to force it" while basically advocating for it. You'd be fine in a fascist system where corporations work with governments to censor and deplatform people.
You aren't tricking anybody.
No, I don't want him silenced. I advocate that he, and other individuals with large platforms like himself, should use his platform responsibly.
So, like this then Jeff?
https://babylonbee.com/news/joe-rogan-agrees-to-only-spread-cdc-approved-misinformation
Nailed it.
should use his platform responsibly.
Maybe he can explain 25 years of the Daily Show. I have long known people to treat like it was real news.
Thank God for Trevor Noah. It is now embarrassingly obvious that anybody still watching that show has Kool-Aid poisoning. And even at that, the Limey shitstain on HBO is even worse. He pretends his comedy is documentary.
It is impossible to read that passage as anything other than a paean to censorship, particularly the approval you profess for the principle undergirding FB/Twitter's anti-misinformation campaign.
"Oh yeah, censorship sucks - but it would be nice if this asshole acted more like the censors!"
I'm trying to figure out where he said he wants government to impose his opinions of "responsibility" onto others.
You are an idiot though. You can see what outcome he wants, he just hides behind "but no government" even though the only way he gets what he wants is either through government or corporate action in collusion with such.
Why do you dignify the liars with a response? They're just trying to goad you. Don't give them the pleasure.
Fuck off, retard troll. Save your simping for your girlfriend, Mike.
Where did I advocate censorship again? Be specific. Provide a citation.
Citation can be dismissed as an artifact of the past with no intrinsically descriptive or predictive power. As an alternative, a pragmatic demonstration, do you support "[Congressional] Protection For 'Good Samaritan' Blocking and Screening of Offensive Material", yes or no?
If you aren't advocating censorship, then what the fuck do you think your point is? You don't think Rogan has examined himself and decided that what he is doing is responsible and appropriate? Or that his millions of listeners haven't made a similar judgement?
Questions about covid, vaccines, masks, lockdowns, etc. are all far from settled. Open discussions need to be had or science will suffer. Even if someone is 90% wrong about everything, they may still have valuable insights or observations to add. But people like you think that certain ideas are too dangerous and must be suppressed.
Jeff once stated on this forum that freedoms can only exist after everyone matches his level of morality.
You don't think Rogan has examined himself and decided that what he is doing is responsible and appropriate?
Can we please stop pretending the guy whose claim to fame is getting people to eat bugs and MMA fighting is the reincarnation of Patrick Henry? Both sides are acting like people seek out the Joe Rogan Show for medical advice. It's like people who pretend that Stern isn't just a giant asshole who humiliates people for a living.
These people don't give the tiniest fuck about facts or standards. Do your own research. It is not that difficult.
I'm not saying anything about what I think. But Rogan seems to be a pretty kind and thoughtful guy who isn't trying to cause trouble.
No one should be seeking medical advice from him, but that's really a very small part of what is talked about on his show. It's just people talking about stuff. Often interesting people talking about interesting stuff. Perhaps a good starting point for some people to do more research into something they hadn't thought about too much before.
Joe Rogan is just some guy (and a pretty good comedian, I think) who accidentally stumbled on this weird 3 hour conversation thing which a lot of people seem to like. There's nothing too special about him, but I think what he is doing (just talking to people to see what they think and discussing and debating ideas) is really good and there should be more of it.
what he is doing (just talking to people to see what they think and discussing and debating ideas) is really good and there should be more of it.
Rachael Maddow and Rush Limbaugh's head-in-a-jar would like to have a word with you out behind the chemical sheds.
Sure dude. Why should folks listen to a guy talk about the nasty mRNA shot? Oh..... That's right... The GUY helped INVENT that little mRNA shot. WTF COULD he possibly know?
The Phucko Knows
Masnick points out that if Section 230 didn't exist, Spotify would still have a First Amendment right to air whatever music and podcast it chooses and cut deals with their creators
So what's all this about Section 230 being "The Internet's First Amendment" as ENB always says? If the First Amendment protects platforms, then wouldn't Section 230 be unnecessary?
Mother, there isn't 2 sides to this: In both red and blue states, new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths (approaching 900k) are driven by the unvaccinated in clear and high numbers. There is no debate on this.
If you dumb f..kers didn't believe this nonsense, Rogan wouldn't be a problem. You do, 900k are dead - and counting - and he is.
Get your f..king shot and tell your buddies. Until then your screwing the economy, the country, and maybe your family and friends. There are not 2 sides to that.
BURN THE WITCH!!!!!!!
You'll make a good slave.
Judith Persichilli is not available for the witch role. Unfortunately.
" Until then your screwing the economy, the country, and maybe your family and friends."
By all means, people, if you are unhealthy you probably should get the vaccine to protect yourself against the Wu Flu.
But also stop listening to Joe and his crypto-religious nonsense. The notion that your vaccination status is "screwing" anyone but yourself is religion. You have no more responsibility to shoot yourself up with vaccine than you do to wear a seatbelt or eat healthy. And people should respond to Joe's hall-monitor, busy-body nanny state scolding with middle fingers, and nothing more.
" Until then your screwing the economy, the country, and maybe your family and friends."
Newsom, OTOH. managed to fuck the world's 5th largest economy without a peep from shitheads like asshole Joe.
More sewage from asshole Joe, by any chance?
Shooting birds is all your left with Overt as I see you don't dispute the facts.
Now, get your shot and tell your buddies to do the same.
"Shooting birds is all your left with Overt as I see you don't dispute the facts."
I did dispute with the facts.
It is a fact that a decision to mitigate a RISK TO YOURSELF does not screw the country, economy, friends, or family. It is a fact that you are acting like a hall-monitor, nanny-state toddler. And it is a fact that the only proper response to your childish whining is to flip you the bird.
That you cannot recognize these as facts is an indictment of the cult you choose to live in, nothing more.
But you left out his stupidity; VERY important.
Covid is highly contagious you idiot and to spread it you have to catch it, and your odds to catch it go way up with being unvaccinated. Do I really have to explain to you how all the other bullshit we have to deal with because of covid is exacerbated by the fools not getting vaccinated?
"Covid is highly contagious you idiot and to spread it you have to catch it, and your odds to catch it go way up with being unvaccinated."
If YOU are vaccinated, my status is immaterial. It's like blaming me for raining soaking you because I'm not carrying an umbrella.
"Do I really have to explain to you how all the other bullshit we have to deal with because of covid is exacerbated by the fools not getting vaccinated?"
Funny, red states aren't having to go through with it. Just blue areas. Maybe you have more anti-vaxxers.
Maybe he needs a brain transplant.
It’s so contagious that the “vaccinated” are spreading it too.
Fuck off, slaver.
so January 2022.
You vaccines didn't work. Your lockdowns didn't work. Your masks don't work, your social distancing didn't work, your first booster didn't work, your second booster didn't work, your third booster didn't work, your fourth booster isn't working. Go fuck yourself you fucking Nazi.
I've been vaccinated with Fauci's Holy Coof Serum and still caught COVID, even worse than my unvaxxed kids.
Anyone pimping the COVID vax as some kind of miracle medicine is either a fucking idiot or a liar. A vaccine is supposed to prevent you from getting sick in the first place, not merely "mitigate symptoms." At best, it's just a therapeutic that might prevent hospitalization, and maybe not even then, as I know vaxxed people who ended up in the hospital, anyway, including my boss.
Red Rocks, like most flu vaccines, the Covid vaccines are about 90% effective. Maybe you can sue God.
Um, no. COVID vaccines stimulate t-cells while the flu vaccine stimulates antibodies. The flu vaccine prevents you from getting sick, but it does nothing for you if you get sick. The COVID vaccine doesn't do much to prevent you from getting sick, but it gives your body a head start on fighting it off if you do.
Apples and oranges.
Umm, no. the mRNA vaccines teach the body to work against the spike protein, not the covid virus.
flu shots often average anywhere from the 10's to 40's in terms of efficacy. Your numbers are skewed bc you get information from sources known for blatant misinformation.
Sorry for the red pill
By the way, the flu vaccine is a crapshoot. They make a vaccine for three strains representing their best guesses as to what will be prevalent that year. If they guess correctly then the vaccine is effective. If they guess wrong it does absolutely nothing.
Meanwhile the COVID vaccine appears to be somewhat effective against all variations so far.
Apples and oranges.
"the Covid vaccines are about 90% effective."
Joe needs to stop repeating mis-information.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/96172
Best estimates are that you averaged around 40% effectiveness against Omicron, which could go as high as 70% if you just got your third booster.
But Joe is in a cult, and being a good cultist means running around shouting mantras and mystic mumbo jumbo.
Yes, Joe is a member of the Branch Covidians, and he is busily trying out for High Priest Fauci's 'Syncophant and Toadie' position.
Huh, so now the Branch Covidians are claiming that COVID is a flu? Have we always been at war with Eastasia, too?
Yup same here and with severe symptoms but always they same it would be worse without. I'm not sure how resuscitation and being put in a tub of ice would could be any worse without the vax.
Here was my COVID journey as a vaxxed person:
-Day 1: Slight fever
-Day 2-3: Fever, chills, body aches, slight cough
-Day 4-5: Cough and sore throat
-Day 6: Slight cough, begin expelling mucus
Ibuprofen actually helped with the coughing, because COVID causes inflamation and ibuprofen is an anti-inflammatory. I took Nyquil at night because OTC knockout meds are fucking awesome when I get sick.
Wife had the same symptoms, kids were either asymptomatic or had a bad fever and snot at worst. No one lost taste or smell, although my best friend's youngest got it and had his sense of smell jacked up so that meat smells like wet dog. All of them are unvaxxed.
I had to visit the ER (no office visits for the COVID+) and spent $1200 to obtain some cough syrup with codeine. Worth every penny. My worst symptoms were a result of how utterly exhausting it is to wake up every 20 minutes coughing.
Once I had the magic syrup, all I needed was rest. Oh, but I was unvaccinated and hospitalized with COVID for posterity.
My long COVID symptom is that, ever since, Ruffles sour cream and cheddar chips have a soapy aftertaste like cilantro has always had for me. Seriously weird, I have been eating those chips for years and never noticed it before.
Diane you f..king cretin, in both red and blue states, new cases, hospitalizations, and deaths (approaching 900k) are driven by the unvaccinated in clear and high numbers. There is no debate on this.
You are correct that facts like this did not dent the 30% of Republicans still insisting "vaccines didn't work", which is of course a bigger proven lie than "Joe Biden didn't win the election".
No, it's not a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
In Israel, is it just a pandemic of the vaccinated?
Hmm? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
You hack.
He is a hack 100% Joe F.
F Joe F
Diane, you fool:
"Unvaxxed 10% of Israelis Are 73% of Serious Cases, 65% of Deaths"
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/unvaxxed-10-of-israelis-are-73-of-serious-cases-65-of-deaths-1.10251639
Now get your shot and tell your buddies to.
Cool, I had COVID recently and almost didnt notice it. Friends that got the booster had 4 days of fevers and chills and were miserable.
Ill keep encouraging my patients not to get a booster, thanks
That was over 4 months ago. Things have changed rather significantly since then.
They didn't work. We were told they were the key to going back to normal last summer. That didn't happen. They didn't work.
That's not to say they do absolutely nothing.
https://kingcounty.gov/depts/health/covid-19/data/vaccination-outcomes.aspx
Fully vaxxed are 47% of hospitalizations and 52% of deaths. So how are the unvaxxed overwhelming the hospitals again?
Did you read your link Elvis?
Not fully vaccinated are 2.1 times more likely to be a new case, 13 times more likely to go to the hospital, and 16 times more likely to die.
https://kingcounty.gov/depts/health/covid-19/data/vaccination-outcomes.aspx
Right, your chances go from very low to extremely low if you're vaccinated.
The vaccine is a therapeutic.
And yet Diane, the hospitals still have tens of thousands of stupid unvaxxed patients who wouldn't be there if they were vaxxed and some of them are still dying. The country has to remain on guard so even the fully vaccinated don't have to go into self quarantine and those who have medical problems don't catch it. The best way to stop the lockdowns, the mask fights, and all the annoyances and worse of living during a pandemic is for the unvaxxed to get their shot. The rest is just mental masturbation.
"And yet Diane, the hospitals still have tens of thousands of stupid unvaxxed patients who wouldn't be there if they were vaxxed and some of them are still dying."
How many are there for a specific reason and it turns out they ALSO have COVID. If you're in for a leg injury, having COVID is irrelevant to it.
You cannot seem to explain how going from 0% vaccinated in 2020 to more than 0% in 2021 led to MORE deaths.
Does the shot stop u from testing positive? Nope......
Does it stop u from actually getting sick? Nope............................
Does it stop u from spreading it? Again.., nope.....................
How about dying from Da Kungflu? Nope............
The CDC says folks under 80 have a 99.97% chance of surviving just fine. So WHY THE NEED for a vaccine at all? So the mRNA shot is a f-ing joke on every level. Friday is literally a piece of propaganda induced bullshit..., seven days a week. Literally one of the grossest ass humans on planet earth.
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But the vaccines, which lower your chances of sickness and spreading sickness, have no down side.
Well, I mean you have to get poked with a needle.
We don't know that yet, dipshit. There is no long-term safety data.
You’re full of shit and you know it.
The vaccines have minimal impact, at best, on transmission.
You're a fucking psycho.
Wait until Joe realizes that all humans die.
He'll be disappointed that he didn't get to shoot them.
The shots dont prevent infection or spread of the wuflu.
And in many areas, the unvaccinated outnumber the vaccinated in hospitalization.s. THAT is undisputable. You watch too much CNN sir
Yes, but that's likely because most people are vaccinated so at some point, the vaccinated will outnumber the unvaxxed in both hospitalizations and deaths. As we have discovered, when 165% of your population is vaccinated, 100% of the hospitalizations will be of the vaccinated.
The problem is as more and more people have gotten vaccinated, we're not seeing a drop in hospitalizations or deaths, which is why they're starting to pivot to more 'nuanced' look at the data. Suddenly co-morbidities, stratification by age and infirmity is now a thing whereas before it was 'died with covid' full stop.
Barbie Jack, how many times have I linked you the CDC saying those numbers are wildly inaccurate?
5.5% OF Covid you mendacious shit.
Debbie Brix held a news conference WAY BACK in April of 2020 that says u r full of shit. The death numbers r beyond juiced. Kinda funny that ole Deb "retired" just a few weeks after that news conference. Maybe if Friday pulled his ass off his head... , he would notice how full of shit HE ALWAYS IS. Dude is just one gross ass human.
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As a private company, GoFundMe can associate with whatever causes it wants. But the move is, nonetheless, disappointing.
As a private company they are not allowed to redirect funds at whim to try to hold onto their 7% commission. That is why multiple AGs threatened to go after them initially, from not offering refunds for their own actions.
the NHL legislated out Canadians' will to be violent.
Shanahan is the anti-Rogan?
Shanahan was so fragile we thought he was Italian.
He didn’t have a leg to stand on but would occasionally light up the lamp.
Rising mortgage rates are unlikely to thwart inflation in the housing market.
Yeah, this time it's different. Don't miss out!
Just because people are stretching to buy a house at 6 times their income and they can handle the payments when rates are at 3%, they'll have no problem unloading it next year when rates are at 5% or higher.
15 years ago, lived in a neighborhood where that happened. People stretched to pay $600k for a house that could sell for $400k just a few years later after the mortgage rules changed. Hope they didn’t have an ARM. Being underwater would have been sucky enough.
But then the banks can foreclose on your ass and take the home back! See everyone is a winner
274 days to midterms.
gofundme has and continues to proudly sponsor fundraisers to arm and bail out BLM and Antifa rioters
https://www.gofundme.com/f/seattle-bail-and-protest-supply-fund
And here's a gofundme site to fund BLM and Antifa rioters in Portland
https://www.gofundme.com/f/seattle-bail-and-protest-supply-fund
Here's the link
https://www.gofundme.com/f/protective-gear-for-seattle-portland-protesters
And another one for BLM rioters in LA
https://www.gofundme.com/f/h2tqv-black-lives-matter-los-angeles
Another one for a BLM rioter who was charged for inciting a riot
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-shamar-rebuild-after-arrest-for-blm-protest
Another one to bail out BLM rioters in Dallas
https://www.gofundme.com/f/bail-fund-for-justice-for-george-floyd-protesters
gofundme has also funded BLM activism in Canada
https://www.gofundme.com/f/black-lives-matter-london-ontario
If you want to help the freedom convoy in Canada but aren't sure how, the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms is providing legal support and advice. Other methods are no doubt available, but this was the easiest and fastest for me to verify.
https://www.jccf.ca
THIS.
The Canadian Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms is what the ACLU could of been if it stuck to its mission and didn't become another wing of the Democratic Party.
The Atlantic is, almost certainly, just about the worse source you can go to about anything related to tech.
Or politics since Jeffrey Goldberg took over.
An Illinois judge has ruled against the state's masks-in-schools mandate.
I like how judges are starting to get their balls back in 2022 now that this shit is unpopular.
GoFundMe said it's rejecting Freedom Convoy funds because the protest violated its terms of service—specifically, a prohibition on "the promotion of violence and harassment." But it's unclear to what exactly GoFundMe is referring.
Now do BLM (or the DNC--and for the both sides boys, the RNC).
We'll just ignore "occupy wall street" because we're all friends here.
'On Sunday, Ottawa's mayor declared a state of emergency. "Declaring a state of emergency reflects the serious danger and threat to the safety and security of residents posed by the ongoing demonstrations and highlights the need for support from other jurisdictions and levels of government," said the city in a statement.'
Do Canadians do irony?
How else can you survive minus forty.
You obviously never binged 30 Rock.
Medical researcher and oncologist, dr. Vinay Prasad eviscerates the entire CDC mask study that's being retweeted. And just so you know, Prasad is pro-vaccine.
Of note, he says this study is a 'test negative' type study which are notoriously poor methods for determining something like "do masks work" which require incredibly large randomized control studies.
He breaks down the science of the study, how it's flawed, and concludes that by the study's design, it essentially says that it's a study literally designed to find that anyone who wore a magical ring that keeps tigers away will report that they were free from tiger attacks.
Oops, no more cocktail parties for the good doctor.
2008: Occupy Wall Street movement has young socialists camping in public parks all over the country, living for weeks on end to make a statement. Media: Yay!
2020: BLM riots all over the country spawn violence, arson and property destruction. BLM protestors march through downtowns overturning tables of outdoor diners, assaulting those who wont raise a fist, and even driving through sleepy neighborhoods shining spotlight and using bullhorns to harass residents. Media: Protests are supposed to shake things up and make you uncomfortable, deal with it.
2022: Truckers peacefully gather on public roads and honk horns while feeding each other pancakes and playing hockey. Media: tHis Is tErRorism!
Only if you narrowly define “media” to exclude Fox, etc. so that you can further a narrative of conservative victimhood.
According to the pop-up ad in the lower right, Young survived polio as a kid, with the inference that he is now qualified to determine what is 'misinformation' regarding vaccines.
If that alone ain't 'misinformation, it'll do until something better comes along.
has anyone brought up the fact President Brandon literally stopped the nomination of Janice Rogers Brown to the SC maybe 18-20 years ago?
Different. She's "white adjacent."
Those who watch Due South will understand these are major breaches of public order, punishable by deprivation of doughnuts for a whole day.
'Book publishers have (multiple times!) been found to be not liable for dangerous information found in the books they publish.' Jeff, isn't this some more of the special immunity that you want removed? After all, somebody could read a book, use the information to commit a crime. By the logic you push, the publisher, and the author, need to be open to lawsuits when unrelated third parties make use of their products. Ditto web services, platforms, social media, right? Crikey, you left-leaning folks are a bad parody of the 1980s' far right.
The news is about Macron trying to cut a deal with Putin. The cat has been out of the bag for weeks. What Macron is pushing is Minsk 2, which would give Russia constitutional authority in the Ukrainian government to veto any moves the Kremlin doesn't like. Watch for Merkel to push the same narrative on Biden--Biden is meeting with Merkel over their relationship with natural gas.
Whatever else you think about Ukraine and NATO, the interesting thing here is that France and Germany are openly undermining U.S. interest in the region. If Biden announces that he's really opening the U.S. natural gas spigot for Europe (much to the chagrin of American environmentalists), he'll be doing the right thing If Biden announces support for Minsk 2 (in addition to that or instead of that), It'll be the worst capitulation to our enemies since Obama cleared the path for Iran to develop nuclear weapons.
Merkel is no longer Reichschancellor. She retired.
The US should stop subsidizing the defense of Europe with US taxpayers and US military personnel. Some crony capitalists will lose rent.
Yeah, yeah, what's his name . . . the invisible new guy.
I meant to write "Germany".
Biden is meeting with his German counterpart, whats his name, and we should expect him to sell the same line Macron is pushing.
The media is painting this as if Macron is trying to broker a deal to avert war, but what he's really doing is strategist with Putin (and Germany) to push Minsk-2.
"Moscow accuses the Ukrainian government of failing to implement the Minsk agreement - an international deal sponsored by Germany and France to restore peace to the east, where Russian-backed rebels control swathes of territory and at least 14,000 people have been killed since 2014.
Macron 'hopes to avoid war'
"The French president - who is expected to seek re-election in April - is speaking with Mr Putin in the Russian capital on Monday evening. The pair will then hold a joint news conference."
"As talks began the Russian president praised Mr Macron for his efforts "to resolve the crisis" in Ukraine.
----BBC, 10 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60292437
You don't need to read between the lines to see what's happening here. Just read the parts in bold. The media is setting this up as a choice for Biden between war and peace, but it's really about France and Germany running interference for Russia to annex Ukraine--because their energy prices are now highly dependent on Russian natural gas.
None of this would be happening if it weren't for Biden's incompetence on Nord Stream 2. The way to avoid war was to avoid Nord Stream 2. Appeasement will not avoid war. Selling the Ukrainians to the Russians won't avoid war. War will be avoided when the Russians come to believe the benefits of going to war aren't worth the costs. All Biden has done is encouraged them to annex Ukraine and set their sights on our allies in eastern Europe--by which I do NOT mean France and Germany.
After Biden fucked over French and German personnel stationed in Afghanistan by squashing real intelligence. Biden instead instead proceeded with make believe to support his planned Sept 11 photo op moment. The “allies” looked less idealistically towards Washington after that.
Biden recently implied that Brazil couldn’t meet with Putin. They laughed. A Brazilian friend talked about how they wanted Biden to beat Trump because it would weaken the US similar to how Brazil would like the German national football team to have a bad manager.
Whatever, Ken, no doubt your other observations are of similar veracity.
I think the name your looking for is Helmut Kohl.
Kohl was crafty and played Blitzkriegpolitic. Was ballsy enough to make a play for Gdansk. He was a real Mannheim steamroller.
Whatever, Ken, no doubt your other observations are of similar veracity.
I believe this is Joseph Vissarionovich Friday's way of saying "Fuck you, I quit!".
Obama didn't clear the path to Iran develop nuclear weapons you idiot. Trump did and the proof is what happened under Obama and what has happened since Trump gave away our oversight and got nothing for it.
Explain how Trump did.
Did he give the Iranians billions, and then wink while they promptly used it to purchase uranium enrichment equipment?
Because someone did. Was it Trump?
Don't you read the news?
"Two years after Trump withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal, Tehran has cut in half the time it would need to produce enough weapons-grade fuel for a nuclear bomb."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/08/iran-advances-nuclear-program-withdrawal-jcpoa/
They could have just made the entire agreement public and submitted it to Congress for ratification.
But they did not. And Iran never honored it. And Obama gave them the money to do all of it.
Because his people are unusually supportive of Putin's boy in the ME.
This.
damikesc, both US and Israeli intelligence confirmed Iran's compliance yearly - that was a required element of the agreement - as did the IAEA and it's inspectors who regularly checked Iran's resources.
Your ignorance on the subject is off the charts.
PS Obama gave Iran their own money, held by us since 1980. Cripes. Read a fucking newspaper sometime.
Becareful jackass... Your true colors r showing.
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The money they owe their victims and never paid them?
Thanks Obama, fucking idiot.
"US and Israeli intelligence confirmed Iran's compliance yearly - that was a required element of the agreement - as did the IAEA and it's inspectors who regularly checked Iran's resources."
That is patently false. Israel produced a lengthy report on Iran's repeated violations of the agreement.
As I said elsewhere, I can handle you being misinformed. I cannot handle your sheer arrogance in your misinformation.
How are you so stupid?
He went to a government school. Run by public sector unionists.
Billions of dollars on a pallet says that Friday is once more full of shit. He is literally the biggest dumbass on planet earth.
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"Russian military officials are worried that an invasion of Ukraine would be more costly than Putin and his inner circle realise, according to communications intercepted by the US.
The Russians - who were described as 'intelligence and military operatives', some of them involved in the build-up near Ukraine's
border - also worry an attack would be more difficult than anticipated amid uncertainty over exactly what the 'game plan' is and how it would be executed."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10485931/Russian-officials-worried-Ukraine-invasion-costly-intel-claims.html
Wow. The Biden administration and their media buddies sure like banging the war drums, huh?
Remember when Trump was going to start WW3 because he droned an old Iranian general who'd organized an attack on American troops?
Good times.
Ha, I remember NPR reporting on some stupid Model UN in San Antonio right after that happened, and all the Very Concerned Students talking like we were about to start a nuclear war. One dumbshit even said he had been thinking about joining the Air Force, but wasn't so sure now because he "didn't want to go to war." Like, kid, what the fuck you think we've been doing in Afghanistan for the last 20 years, just raising fag flags and building Skoolz 4 Wimmin N Gurls?
"Do you have a nagging feeling that President Trump is putting the United States on a slippery slope to war? If so, you are not alone.
Senator Bob Corker, Republican chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said on Sunday that President Trump, with his reckless threats to other countries, could set the nation “on the path to World War III.”
“He concerns me,” Sen. Corker said, clearly questioning Trump’s fitness to be commander-in-chief. “He would have to concern anyone who cares about our nation.”..."
https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/354994-this-is-how-trump-could-start-world-war-iii
Go Fund Me will have a more ethical competitor very shortly.
Change is good.
When Make A Wish stopped allowing hints to be offered, Hunt of a Lifetime was founded.
Love the free market.
it's called givesendgo and they raised 2 mil for the Canadian truckers 1 day after GoFundMe shut them down.
Then they suffered a DDOS attack.
The fucking communists will never leave you alone.
Was it actually a DDOS attack or were they just overwhelmed with traffic leaving Gofundme?
It was an actual DDOS attack.
GiveSendGo @GiveSendGo
We have been under heavy DDOS and bot attacks. In spite of all of this we still have managed to raise funds 5X faster than the gfm did. GFM raised 10mil in 3 weeks. GSG campaign has already raised over 1.1mil in just over 12 hours!
https://twitter.com/givesendgo/status/1489983077912924160
Who, precisely, do you posit are behind the DDOS attacks?
My money is on the total incompetence of Christian right-wingers to build software.
Mike's mighty sealion roar, followed by Tony's fedora tip.
At least our trolls are predictable.
Does Section 230 cover yacht transport?
https://nypost.com/2022/02/07/dutch-residents-vow-to-pelt-jeff-bezos-superyacht-with-eggs/
Wouldn't Doctor Evil be more comfortable on a supersubmarine?
https://nypost.com/2022/02/04/mayor-denies-city-will-dismantle-bridge-for-bezos-yacht/
Will the boat be named the SS Baksheesh?
Schooner or later someone would amast enough wealth for these things to happen. Maybe just tax him more to help bridge the earnings gap.
Can we tax him to the point where he is underwater?
That would be a stern punishment. The progs behind it would want to take a bow.
I love that you people finally discovered a love for taxes, as soon as you figured you could use it to punish people for having the wrong political ideas.
You suck at being American in so many, many ways.
Did you have a stroke recently?
He's lubin' for a Toobin.
Every afternoon in the corner of the photocopier room where he can peep at the mailboys.
I see people are beating me to the masturbation wordplay jokes.
Nobody has “discovered a love for taxes”, you humorless little bitch.
The Canadian truckers have been threatened with loss of their livelihood if they don’t obey the mandates and get vaxxed. They have been staying in Ottawa despite the bad weather and lack of provisions and are risking fines and arrests to exert pressure on officials. Despite the lack of objective press coverage, the truckers are inspiring people, all over the world.
The tyrants in government and their allies in big tech and the MSM are trying every dirty trick in their arsenal to try to shut down this peaceful protest against covid mandates. Besides declaring a state of emergency because of a peaceful protest, they have also:
1) Refused to turn over the $10M collected by GoFundMe on behalf of the truckers
2) Either ignored or distorted the news coverage of the protest. Besides a few members of the independent media like Rebel News, the MSM has had a dearth of reporters actually on the ground talking to any of the protesters.
3) They use the same minor incidents and pictures, over and over again to discredit the truckers despite lack of proof that these incidents were caused by any of the truckers themselves, as opposed to agent provocateurs or a few persons who are not representative of the truckers or the protest.
4) Trudeau using his bully pulpit from afar to mischaracterize the protest and the truckers.
The IRS has backed off Facial Recognition!
https://apple.news/ArGI4746GR-SiCnjvJmhb3Q
They’ve saved face! Many happy returns to us all!
Have you seen some of the progressives? The IRS feared having to look at all those faces would be too taxing.
They were probably worried about getting sued by a bunch of MTF troons for not approving scans because of potential impersonation fraud.
Imagine the deductions IRS peeps make about the people based on their pictures. This decisions was a credit to common cents.
Good form!
Good news.
Shoes the power of Reason to influence big issues! ????
Right-wingers have become such goddamn freeloaders. You're the freedom people, supposedly, but your big political project these days? (No, it's not climate change.) Forcing private companies to let you use their property for free.
Why did I waste my life arguing with libertarians if you were going to turn around and declare a right for far-right groups to stomp their dirty boots all over Twitter, GoFundMe, and, for good measure, the US Capitol?
Dirty trespassing gits.
Cope, seethe, and dilate.
I'm trying to save you from the war you so mindlessly want but so clearly will lose.
You know how we beat you Nazi fucks the first time? By having all the scientists on our side.
Lol. You’re so fragile, tony. You’ll be hiding under your bed declaring victory. No one will care.
You're fighting over nothing. Over Tucker Carlson's wedgie in 10th grade.
Tony: you are a Nazi. Literally: your facial, economic, and social beliefs are largely indistinguishable from those of 1930’s Nazis.
“ As a private company, GoFundMe can associate with whatever causes it wants.”
You don’t know much about Canadian or US law, do you?
Neither private companies nor private individuals have freedom of association anymore.
Gofundme more innovative company. i think the goverment should promote them. For example Ürün inovasyonu örnekleri.
Fortunately, those DDOS attacks tend to burn out within a few days because they're incredibly expensive to maintain themselves.
That wouldn’t fly today either. There’s no comparing Apple and Orange Man!
"Like, no, Man! We gotta use the iPhone to score anorher bongo for the Drum Circle. The Black Bloc used it to smash the Starbucks window." 🙂
Or comparing Jobs with Bigly Yuge Beautiful American Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!