Jackass Embodied Gen X's Casual Indifference to Authority
Beneath all the harm, humiliation, and non-consensual hair-shaving was a love of freedom.
In 1996, the West Coast skate magazine Big Brother released its first video, mostly of skateboard tricks, but with stunts and gags interspersing the skate segments. Around the same time, in Pennsylvania, skateboarder Bam Margera began releasing similar videos under the title "CKY," which stood for Camp Kill Yourself. These two tribes joined forces with Johnny Knoxville at the helm, and in 2000, Jackass debuted on MTV.
Twenty-two years later, with fewer teeth, more plates and screws, and a few gray hairs, the gang is back in Jackass Forever, released in theaters on Friday. The TV iteration of Jackass was unmistakably Gen X; it was also very much a product of its era. The latest film in the Jackass franchise has bent but not been broken by the times, bringing in new blood but offering the same primal thrills you feel guilty for laughing at.
On TV, Jackass embodied a particular Gen X form of transgression—not a direct challenge to authority, but utter indifference to it. That indifference is still present in the 2022 cast, including a disregard for woke politesse. For example, on a recent podcast, Chris Pontius and Steve-O recalled how they first really connected when they discovered that they shared an indifference toward lesbian pornography; Pontius likened it to "looking at a skateboard magazine and looking at skate spots with no one riding them…I wouldn't say a closed skatepark, but just…a skatepark maybe in the rain."
Similarly, in a recent interview with the New York Times, Wee Man noted that American culture has changed since the show first ran:
"Gender stuff and, you know, things like that….When we first started, there was never going to be a girl in it," he said. "We didn't think it was funny for girls to get hurt. For us, it was like, 'That's not funny' — hurting a girl." Now, paradoxically, it would be in poor taste to not hurt a girl on "Jackass" — and so they do.
The new female cast member, comedian Rachel Wolfson, doesn't hold back, and the addition of a female character winds up opening the door for more jokes. In one scene, after Wolfson has been repeatedly stung on the lips by a scorpion (she was preparing for some lippy Instagram shots) the scorpion tumbles into her bosom. Pontius stands there ponderously, wryly refusing to help until Wolfson grants affirmative consent to remove the scorpion from her breast. She screams, "I CONSENT!"
Wolfson is not the first woman to appear on Jackass. Coyote Ugly actress Stephanie Hodge appeared on the TV show, until she broke her back and pelvis riding an air mattress down a snow-covered hill. In what used to be called chivalry, Knoxville recalled that "It was like your sister getting hurt—and we don't want to see girls getting hurt."
Mercifully, Wolfson doesn't attempt anything that gnarly. That's in keeping with the franchise's ethos: Despite the amount of bodily injury doled out on Jackass, the emphasis has never been on death and injury, but on whistling past the ideas of death and injury. Exiting the theater, I heard fans loudly exhaling "I so needed that!" Jackass has always offered a refuge from forced seriousness, whether it's a pandemic or anything else. One Reddit user posted a touching recollection of how the videos helped him out of a deep depression while fighting cancer.
Two decades ago, America needed Jackass after the September 11 terror attacks. In the first episode that aired after 9/11, Dave England interrupted TV's relentless repetition of 9/11 montages backed by Enya's "Only Time" with his recipe for an omelette: Take a bite of each ingredient, swallow down some raw eggs Rocky style, then vomit the whole thing into a hot skillet.
If there was an end to the beginning of Jackass, it could be seen in the vomelette skit. As England cooked and ate the omelette, Johnny Knoxville paced behind him in a hazmat suit. The show also ran a wiseass disclaimer that the omelette had been cooked to the FDA-approved temperature of 160 degrees. But the hazmat suit and food safety advice were not intended as a part of the bit—they were forced on the gang by MTV.
In England's telling, when they turned in the omelette skit, MTV "decided the puke fumes were airborne pathogens. I was pretty bummed, because we nailed it the first time. The first time I fed a bite to Steve-O, and he puked all over my leg."
So who killed Jackass? None other than that warmonger and torture advocate turned lobbyist for China, Joseph Lieberman, then a Democratic senator from Connecticut.
After an inevitable teenage imitator set himself on fire attempting to emulate a skit from the show (which included a lengthy disclaimer and showed a stuntman helping Knoxville into a fireproof suit prior to running the stunt), Lieberman called on MTV to "either cancel this exploitative and degrading show or eliminate the stunts that could be dangerous if imitated by children." Every stunt from the show could be dangerous (that was the whole point), especially if emulated by children. Lieberman pressed forward, and MTV caved.
As Knoxville observed, you couldn't do Jackass safely: "I felt that we couldn't do a watered-down version of the show, so I quit." The rest of the cast followed, and the MTV series collapsed.
Eventually, Jackass returned as a sporadic big-screen spectacle. And just as America needed Jackass in the aftermath of 9/11, we need it now, in the third year of our permanent pandemic fog.
The most pervasive message of the show may have been the one offered by Roger Alan Wade, Knoxville's cousin, in the canonical Jackass song: "If You're Gonna Be Dumb, You Gotta Be Tough":
When you get knocked down, you gotta get back up
I ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer
But I know enough to know
If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.
Maybe we're all dumb enough that we should be a bit tougher. Why don't we sometimes carry a hair clipper and randomly chop off a swatch of a friend's hair? Isn't there some way to make fireworks even more fun? Haven't you ever wondered what would happen if you connected a bungee cord to a little person on one end and an acrophobic 300-pounder at the other, while they stood on the edge of a bridge, and then the little person jumped off? Wouldn't it make sense to make a giant ramp at the edge of a lake, lube everyone up, and see who could look the most ridiculous flying off? What was the point of high school physics otherwise?
If you can't take risks, what's the point of being alive at all?
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Safety is just a qualitative preference, and adventure and fun are often more important–especially when you’re young.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6BuoXNGbMg
There are people who see safety as the most important thing, and they’re often diagnosed with agoraphobia, paranoia, and other psychiatric disorders.
The rest of us take chances every time we leave the house. I’d hate to have never done some of the fundamentally unsafe things I did.
“There are people who see safety as the most important thing, and they’re often diagnosed with agoraphobia, paranoia, and other psychiatric disorders.”
I forgot to add, “We should not put such people in charge of our government”.
Yet those pathologically risk averse people are in charge, Ken. They are career administrators, they are teachers, they are the judiciary, they are in government at all levels. The run, or shape our lives via policy, law, or other means, often without input.
There are people who see safety as the most important thing…
And it turns out that most of them are county and state level health commissioners.
Top men (without hats).
And despite all their risk aversion, in the end it’s still “Pop! Goes The World.”
Police officers, school administrators, food regulators… basically government at every level.
Mask fanatics even after the cdc finally admits cloth masks don’t do stuff…. hmm…
Just scream “science!”
and watch people obey.
“Science” is the reason why Vulgarly Insanely-Inanely-Mad SheMale has been known to tell its political “enemies” to commit suicide! It is NOT the necrophiliac death-lust of the Vulgarly Insanely-Inanely-Mad SheMale that makes it say such things… It is the SCIENCE!!!
Step BACK, mere mortals!!! Vulgarly Insanely-Inanely-Mad SheMale speaks as a SCIENTIST when it tells you to “off” yourself!!!
You forgot to take your meds again. Be sure to wash them down with a bottle of aristocrat you filthy dog.
You forgot to tell us how your “science” tells you to tell others to kill themselves, death-lusting necrophiliac! Read and heed!
If you ever come around to wanting to work on your affliction, EvilBahnFuhrer, start here: M. Scott Peck, The People of the Lie, the Hope for Healing Human Evil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
People who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. Peck demonstrates the havoc these “people of the lie” work in the lives of those around them.
A helpful book is to be found here: M. Scott Peck, Glimpses of the Devil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1439167265/reasonmagazinea-20/
Glimpses of the Devil: A Psychiatrist’s Personal Accounts of Possession
If “miracle happens here” and Vulgarly Insanely-Inanely-Mad SheMale gets an exorcism, it needs to recall, it MUST actually PAY your exorcist… Or you might get…
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… Re-possessed!
Just.. do it!
“Do it”, to me, means “speak truth” to criminally insane and EVIL necrophiliac death-lusters, who are slaves to the Evil One! And I just did it! The rest of it is up to YOU, necrophiliac death-eating devotee of the Evil One!
PS… “Karma”… What comes around, goes around! Keep that in mind. For your own good.
You’ve never once told the truth. You’re a psychotic and a chronic liar.
And a hypocrite, squealing that people who mock you are stealing your ID, and simultaneously doing the exact same thing.
MASSIVE-MARXIST-MAMMARY projection on the ID-stealing and lying about it, Oh Lying Great Servant of the Evil One! There’s a HUGE difference between what You’ve done, and what I’ve done, along the ID-stealing lines, and You know it, Oh Perfect One!
WHEN are you going to give us an example of a 1-party state that led to long-term peace and prosperity? Since you SOOO clearly advocate for a 1-party “R”-party state?
Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer, Supreme Demonic Director of Decay, Destruction, and Death, will now SPEAK! HARKKK silently and RESPECTFULLY, all ye lowly heathens, as She Directs Death, and announces WHICH few of us MIGHT deserve to live, and WHO all deserves to DIE-DIE-DIE!!!
https://reason.com/2022/01/25/did-these-three-officers-willfully-deprive-george-floyd-of-his-constitutional-rights/?comments=true#comment-9323626
“You should really join ᛋᛋqrlsy, ᛋᛋhrike. You two goosestepping fascists offing yourselves would definitely be a mitzvah.”
-Quote MammaryBahnFuhrer the “Expert Christian Theologian”
Hear, hear, HEAR ye the self-righteous preachings of MammaryBahnFuhrer! (Imported below). She knows JUST the right “Popular-with-the-Cool-Kids-in-Her-Own-Mind” theology to espouse, along with wearing JUST the right purse, hairstyle, whorestyle, and other accessories! Meanwhile, in the EXACT same source, She engaged in identity theft! Her heart, in truth, is a ravening black hole of hypocrisy, greedy self-righteousness, and other evils!
Now, the preachings of The Great Mammary. Note that She picks the verses that say that the right BELIEFS and whorestyles get you “in” with the “in” crowd, and then you’re free to engage in ID theft and other evils, at will!
Mammary-style whorestyles – preachings below:
It amazes me how Americans living in a purportedly Christian culture don’t even understand the basic tenets of its theology.
Pretty much the whole point of Christianity is that everyone has sinned and is worthy of damnation so God became a human and took our punishment for us. And the libertarian angle is, that you still have a choice to accept or reject the gift already given.
Ephesians 2:8-9 ESV: For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Romans 6:23 ESV: For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
John 3:16-17 ESV: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
I’m glad you posted that, because it demonstrates in the link how monumentally ignorant you were when you lectured us on religion. That was a pretty good rebuttal on my part, so I’m glad you posted it.
And it still amazes me how certain you were, yet astonishingly ignorant of, the basic religious doctrines your culture own is awash in. You couldn’t have been dumber if you tried.
Read the link folks, the man’s a moron.
So yes, compared to you I am an “Expert Christian Theologian”. So’s a six-year-old Sunday School student.
I take that appellation from you, ᛋᛋqrlsy.
Marxist-Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer… As I have explained to You before (Oh Perfect One), Your Magic Beliefs, Your Most Fashionable Purses-Hairstyles-and-Whorestyles, will NOT save You from the consequences of Your own evils!!!
You (Oh Queen) are apparently saying that it’s OK to act HOWEVER YOU WANT, and get a “free pass” with Your Magic Beliefs, fashionable hairstyle and whorestyle, etc. IT DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY!!! Your Magic Beliefs DO NOT protect You from the consequences of Your evil choices!!! If You drink a gallon of whiskey every day, is God going to forgive You because You have Magic Beliefs? AND give You Your healthy liver back? Have You SHOWN this to be true? Or do You know ANYONE who has demonstrated this?
If You spit in the faces of ALL of Your friends, will You have any friends left? You’re not married, are You? Is this perhaps the pay-back that You have earned by being a Perfectly Superior One, in the face of EVERYONE that You meet? Can you NOT see my basic point, that Your Magic Beliefs are ZERO protection from “karma”, or, “what comes around, goes around”?
Karma is crap. Too many evil people live long, happy lives for it to exist.
Though hopefully one of these internet tuff gais will accidently say what they type here to someone’s face, and promptly have their face broken.
I use “karma” in a mostly-secular sense.
Treat others as you would like to be treated, and they will (generally) respond in kind. Poop on them, and they will ALSO, on average, figure out who you are, and what you are about, and NOT treat you very well in turn! Karma, what comes around, goes around, and, as you sow, so shall you reap!
Modern ethology (the study of animal behavior) bears this out. Many species have an innate sense of justice; even such a small (and small-brained) primate species as a marmoset. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inequity_aversion_in_animals and https://www.unomaha.edu/college-of-arts-and-sciences/callitrichid/publications/2016/Mustoe%20et%20al,%20Anim%20Behav%202016.pdf and more. Don’t EVEN think that your “inferiors” are too stupid to figure out that you’re ripping them off!
Even animals far simpler and less intelligent than humans engage in “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours” (but not if you don’t). Research animal reciprocity and animal altruism, kin altruism, etc. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism#:~:text=In%20evolutionary%20biology%2C%20reciprocal%20altruism,manner%20at%20a%20later%20time , see this excerpt: “Numerous species of bacteria engage in reciprocal altruistic behaviors with other species.” If even bacteria can see the benefits of cooperation, then surely humans should be able to do the same!
In higher (and social, intelligent) animals, we see more of the same, and even more complexities. Study “Dunbar’s Number” as a related topic. We keep track of each other, and how each of us treat others, and act accordingly! Politically, even! See https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/science/22angi.html Political Animals (Yes, Animals) By Natalie Angier “Researchers who study highly gregarious and relatively brainy species like rhesus monkeys, baboons, dolphins, sperm whales, elephants and wolves have lately uncovered evidence that the creatures engage in extraordinarily sophisticated forms of politicking, often across large and far-flung social networks.”
If the social (and political!) behavior of intelligent, social animals backs up the idea of “tread carefully, because as you sow, so shall you reap”, then SURELY we as happiness-seeking humans should pay heed to that! So then… Mourn the pains, sufferings, and deaths of others, exercise your “mirror neurons”, practice some fellow-feeling, and you will be blessed with more genuine and long-term happiness!
Almost as a footnote, let me add, lack of mirror neurons can yield autism, apparently (according to many psychologists at the very least), but that does NOT equate to malice or evil! Autists don’t understand many forms of suffering (social or “feelings” sufferings of others), often. Psychopaths understand, but don’t care! That latter VASTLY overwhelm the former, in terms of damages done! I’ll leave it to the reader to research that some more, as desired. Don’t forget… The Google Knows All Things!
Such a hypocrite. You attack others for wishing physical harm but have no problem doing it yourself. You’re so pathetic.
Beneath all the harm, humiliation, and non-consensual hair-shaving was a love of freedom.
You know who else did barm, humiliation and non-consensual hair-shaving?
No mention of the effect of this lifestyle on Ryan Dunn?
Indifference to authority was not my takeaway from the show.
More like indifference to the suffering of others, or indifference to logic and forseeable consequences, with a side of sadistic schadenfreude.
It’s funny.
It was often more massachistic than sadistic.
They ripped off the Powell Peralta skating videos from the 1980s. It catered to folks that voted for Bush and Biden who thought they were edgy because they listened to Howard Stern.
Gen-X were the anti-Boomers, Millennials are the anti-Gen-X.
+1
To Millennials, boomers weren’t boomer enough.
There’s a good slice of Gen-X who are more Boomer than Gen -X, and much like the Millennials. They just care so much, spend so much time outraged and their entire life stupid.
Gen-Xers have always been a bandwagon generation, going along with whatever the cultural status quo happens to be at the time. They simply don’t have the numbers to push the kind of influence that the Boomers or Millennials have, so they mostly go along with trends to try and fit in. And yeah, it was even this way in the 90s, as the whole “ironic detachment” and cynicism thing was mostly a pose. Gen-X happily swallowed whatever pop media and consooooooomerist trends were promoted by MTV and Hollywood. These days, it’s BLM and neomarxist bullshit that they uncritically regurgitate.
Gen-X, on the whole, doesn’t really have any principles other than “leave me alone and I’ll support whatever you want me to.”
Well, as a gen x who was never impressed with “pop media…. trends promoted by MTV and Hollywood…” I wanna refute this comment, but…
“On the whole”, it’s probably not too far off. We never took anything too seriously, but that might be changing. We never saw anything like this shit before.
Fuck Brandon. And jackass was funny as hell. Might just watch my Beavis and Butthead dvd tonight. Heh heh.
As a Gen Xer that never liked Beavis and Butthead, Jackass, or MTV I also disagree with the everyone followed idea. Yes, a lot of people just went along, but a bunch of us just did our own thing.
I expected pandemic era jackass to include someone deliberately trying to catch covid and then laughing at them while they are sick. Going somewhere with mask mandates and refusing while running around inside until the cops come, or agreeing to comply by removing their pants and putting obviously stained dirty underwear on thier face while thier cock hangs free. I’m disappointed.
The boomers are the first generation that demands their kids sacrifice everything for the parents. And Gen x is going along with authoritarianism. Jackass doesn’t change that
Sayz who? I have no Millennial kids, and consequently, no one to tell me I’m UnWoke and Triggering for liking The Johnson Smith Catalog and Porky’s.
Also, it doesn’t look like I’ll ever get a retirement ‘lockbox’ that isn’t filled with worthless Federal Reserve 1s and 0s, so I’ve already sacrificed for The Boomers. I’m just glad that I never became cannon fodder just because somebody said I should.
You know the oldest Millenials are in their 40’s now right?
I guess it depends on where the generational goalposts are. I always heard that Baby Boomers were 1945-1965, Gen X was 1965-1985, and Millennials were around 1985-2005.
In any event, I did and still do my little part to throw the monkey wrench in the social engineering schemes of every generation.
“Now get them HoverRounds and Rollerblades off my lawn!” he yelled to the parking lot from his second-story apartment. 🙂
So this makes the front page of my newspaper:
Does anyone have any questions about what’s going on here?
He used the word instead of saying the n word. Never used it to attack minorities. His show has been on for more than a decade. But someone spliced all the times he said it in conversations to make him look racist.
The LA Times weighs in on Rogan
https://apple.news/ATzOZKgcoRsGICYeo9ppKvg
Spotify deletes 71 episodes of Joe Rogan after white house demands action.
Private company.
“The move closely follows pressure from the Biden Administration to take greater action against Rogan, though it’s unclear if the removals are tied to any government demands.”
Psaki confirmed, long ago, that the Biden White House flags posts on Facebook for deletion and accounts for deplatforming.
“We’re flagging problematic posts for Facebook that spread disinformation” . . . . Psaki added that an estimated 12 individuals are responsible for about 65 percent of all anti-vaccine misinformation on social media. Though some of those individuals are blocked on some social media platforms, she said they are not blocked on Facebook.
“All of them remain active on Facebook, despite some even being banned on other platforms—including ones that Facebook owns,” she said.”
—-Newsweek, July 15, 2021
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-administrations-admission-theyre-flagging-content-facebook-sparks-furor-1610257
Telling Spotify to take down Rogan podcasts is perfectly consistent with what the Biden administration has done to Facebook. This is Putin like behavior by the Biden administration. We can’t pretend that these decisions are being made by Facebook and Spotify of their own free will–rather than being made under the implied threat that Biden will come after them if they don’t do what they’re told. The chilling effect is clear, but a little more information will make it all painfully obvious.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens when Trump’s TruthSocial launches later this month. I do not believe the progressives are tolerant enough NOT to go after TruthSocial for spreading misinformation, and if and when they go after a private social media company like that, because they will not do what they’re told, we’ll see how well the argument that Facebook is just exercising its property rights as a private entity holds up.
If the Biden administration make an example out of TruthSocial, the progressives’ authoritarian mask will have come off completely.
I was listening to my new Spotify account yesterday. Buffalo Springfield came on at least twice. Hmm. Neil Young is still Spotify.
I’m not noticing a lot of current artists asking Spotify to remove their content. It mostly seems to be artists that already made their money.
If Taylor Swift says she doesn’t want her next release on Spotify, that will be different. Boycotting the service for new releases would really hurt Spotify, but that would really hurt artists who haven’t made the money Neil Young and the Crotcheties already did a long time ago, too.
Neil Young and Joni Mitchell don’t have any big releases coming out soon.
P.S. Neither Neil Young nor Stephen Stills may own Buffalo Springfield’s music. I know John Fogerty didn’t own the music of CCR. The owners of CCR’s music used to license CCR music out all the time over his objections, and that may be the case with Buffalo Springfield.
Really, John Fogerty didn’t own CCR’s music?
Vance can’t Dance but he’ll steal your money.
Iirc, they sued Fogerty when he went solo. Because he sounded too much like himself.
Yeah, The Old Man Lives Down the Road sounded too much like Born on a Bayou.
He ended up winning that by playing the guitar on the witness stand and persuading the jury that any song he played sounded like him.
Or maybe it was Run Through the Jungle?
I forget. Anyway, he sounded too much like himself for the people who owned the rights to his music.
The worst abuse I ever heard of was the guy in Third Eye Blind.
“Five days before the band signed with Elektra Records, Mr. Jenkins established Third Eye Blind Inc. as a corporation, naming himself as the corporation’s sole owner and shareholder, without telling anyone else in the four-member group, Mr. Cadogan said. The record deal, then, signed Mr. Jenkins and Mr. Cadogan as artists ”professionally known as Third Eye Blind,” but the payments were made to Third Eye Blind Inc., which in effect meant to Mr. Jenkins.”
“In fact, it wasn’t until three years later, Mr. Cadogan said, that he even realized that he wasn’t an equal partner.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/20/arts/the-pop-life-a-part-of-a-band-as-the-whole-band.html
How fucked up is that?
You gotta read everything you sign–and understand what you read.
The drummer for the original Vandals ended up getting the other bandmates to sign the band over to him–after he became a lawyer. He would work a radio show in LA where he’d give legal advice to bands that were negotiating contracts or getting screwed. That was a great station punk rock radio station when it started.
No one should ever feel guilty about the recording industry imploding because people are stealing their music. There are a few bands out there with legitimate grievances, but for the most part, you’re just ripping off the thieves and fraudsters. Even when you hear about some artists getting rich, it’s typically because they’re so successful the record company can’t reasonably not pay them.
You shouldn’t justify stealing because you don’t like the people from which you are stealing. Once had a boss that tried to convince me to use Napster to avoid buying music.
Fogerty was never told he couldn’t play his songs. He was just asked to pay performance royalties to the owners of the songs, to whom he had sold his songs. Nothing unusual about that at all. Fogerty just got in a snit about it and refused to play at all. Eventually they worked out a deal and he resumed performing.
My understanding is that it goes back to his original contract with the record company.
“For years, John Fogerty refused to record to new music, even refused to perform his old songs. He blamed a bad deal with Fantasy Records’ head Saul Zaentz, and legal action followed.”
“But all of that seemed to be behind him after the former Creedence Clearwater Revival frontman returned with the blockbuster 1985 solo album Centerfield. It wasn’t – not the lawsuits or, it turns out, the issue with his songs.”
“I don’t own them, still,” Fogerty tells UCR. “But hopefully I’m going to live long enough that they finally revert to me. It’s a period of about 56 years, and so far, we’ve been celebrating the 50th anniversary of ‘Proud Mary,’ so you do the math. It should be pretty soon.”
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/john-fogerty-creedence-clearwater-revival-songs/
That was in 2019, so he’s still got a few years before the ownership of Proud Mary reverts back to him.
2019 – 50 years, yeah, Proud Mary came out in 1969.
He didn’t exactly sell the rights like David Bowie monetizing his royalties with a tradeable security. It was his original recording or management contract. Getting a few thousand dollars to record in a studio probably seemed like a dream come true at the time, and if he could pay his rent with his music, that’s just awesome.
Every once in a while, I’ll come across some musical genius I looked up to and find out that he lives in a dump or works a really shitty job–despite being incredibly influential. I remember watching an interview with Matt Pike (incredibly influential genius) talking about his regular job, which was hanging drywall. Half of what’s left of the stoner/doom metal scene in America may be attributable to when people heard Sleep (the other half heard Kyuss). If Sleep played Coachella, everyone in the crowd would know the songs.
And Matt Pike was hanging drywall for a living? I hope he’s made a ton of money with High on Fire. I hope the guys in Om made tons of money as well, but I remember when I could go see them with a couple hundred people–and it wasn’t that long ago. I had billion dollar moments as their shows, you know, one of those moments where if you had a billion dollars and you could be anywhere in the world doing anything you wanted, you wouldn’t want to be anywhere else than where you are doing what you’re doing at that moment? Going to see Om, you could get those moments for a $5 cover charge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkbrhu8W6uE
Metallica became a phenomenon–after a lack of interest in the Los Angeles glam metal scene–because a fan on the east coast (who died last week) offered them $5,000 to record their first album. It’s amazing how many great bands never got off the ground for a lack of a few thousand bucks. I’ve seen great bands break up on the road because they ran out of money for food and gas.
I’m not saying it should be illegal to take advantage of talented bands under those circumstances, but just because something shouldn’t be illegal doesn’t mean it isn’t shitty. Ghosting your grandma on Thanksgiving after you promised her you were coming is probably legal, too. But what a shitty thing to do! That’s what I see when I see a major record company. They take the substance of life, the ambrosia of inspiration, and they bend it over and screw it for all its worth–because they can.
The fact that they can’t tell great work for shit isn’t an excuse either. That just makes it worse.
I thought I read somewhere that something like 70% of the average Playlist is over 20 years old.
Corporate fascism is so awesome.
By “pressure from the Biden Administration” do you mean the White House press secretary answering a question from a reporter?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/joe-rogan-spotify-covid-white-house-b2005488.html
And there’s Ken spinning Psaki’s answer to the reporter as “Telling Spotify to take down Rogan podcasts”…
Defend the Democrat administration, not a Democrat Dee.
No, he pointed out that the Biden Administration admitted on live tv that they flag posts on Facebook.
The block quote is straight from the link and details pressure from the White House on Spotify.
In short, you’re a lying sack of shit and everyone can see it.
“We’re flagging problematic posts for Facebook that spread disinformation” . . . . Psaki added that an estimated 12 individuals are responsible for about 65 percent of all anti-vaccine misinformation on social media. Though some of those individuals are blocked on some social media platforms, she said they are not blocked on Facebook.
“All of them remain active on Facebook, despite some even being banned on other platforms—including ones that Facebook owns,” she said.”
—-Newsweek, July 15, 2021
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-administrations-admission-theyre-flagging-content-facebook-sparks-furor-1610257
I maintain that what may seem like lying by Dee and other progressive trolls could just as easily be explained by not being smart enough to understand the meaning of what they read.
We assume she’s lying because we can read it for ourselves and understand what it says, but there’s no good reason to assume that Dee is a reading and comprehending kind of person. She may be as dumb as a squawking bird.
You need to be smart enough to understand the truth before you can lie about it, and back when I used to read her comments, I didn’t see anything to indicate that she was smart enough to understand what she read well enough to lie about it.
She can be both dumb AND dishonest.
I’m not sure she can be the kind of dumb I’m talking about AND be dishonest, but I think there is an interesting debate to be had about whether you’re subconsciously giving her intellect more credit than it deserves. Has she ever written anything that made you think she might be smart enough to lie? I’ve seen her regurgitate a lot of really stupid shit. Isn’t it possible that, subconsciously, maybe it’s hard for you to imagine that she really could be that dumb–but she is? Maybe you could meet me halfway and we can at least agree that she’s so dumb, it’s hard to tell whether she’s being dishonest.
This is Mike denying reality because he is here to troll. It is a fact that the Biden administration has admitted to communicating directly with Big Tech companies to inform them of accounts that they say are spreading misinformation.
Mike is trying to frame this as “answering a question from a reporter” when it is actually giving pressure. Psaki could have said, “We are the government and take no position on what they do.” “We believe in free speech, and do not take an opinion.”
But instead, Psaki specifically said that Spotify should moderate its content. So yes, this is putting pressure on Spotify. From the Biden administration.
The latest news has Joe Rogan apologizing for using racial slurs in podcasts from 12 years ago. It’s pretty clear they’re drumming Rogan off the air. If so, the next step is for the Biden administration to call Apple and Google and have Spotify taken off their web store. Spotify may be forced to choose between Joe Rogan and being shut out of circulation like Parler.
Being a private company is no defense. And it’s going to get worse when Truth Social launches–in about two weeks. They won’t let Rogan say what he wants on a private platform, and they won’t let Trump say what he wants on a private platform just because he owns it himself either. The only people they’ll let get away with free speech are players too small to notice.
We probably can’t have free speech in this country on a large scale, anymore, so long as Biden is in the White House and the Democrats are in charge of Congress. The progressives are just too intolerant of dissenting views.
Pretty funny how one hand they say private companies can do whatever they want, and then as soon as the banned go to somewhere like Substack, they’re all “NOT LIKE THAT!”
What “they” do you think I am part of? I’m a libertarian.
Stfu Dee.
No you’re not.
I don’t think about you at all, Mike. I’m talking about people who matter.
No, you’re not. You may play one in the comments, but you’re not.
A real libertarian’s FIRST instinct would be to protect (and criticize) any attempt from any powerful entity to curb the free exchange of ideas and speech. There’s a reason it’s the first amendment and not the 11th. Even if said trillion dollar corporate entity is well within its legal rights to arbitrarily ban any speech on its publishing platform it wants, a REAL libertarian would be at least slightly uncomfortable at the naked attempts to direct speech towards a singular narrative for a global audience.
It’s creepy, it’s unlibertarian and it’s cowardly.
Here’s how a real libertarian discusses corporate censorship.
Is the publisher within its legal rights to memory-hole Clanchy’s books? Probably, yes– any civil actions or breaches of contract notwithstanding.
Ignoring or for the sake of Pete, defending cancel culture merely because as long as it doesn’t stray too far outside the realm of legally actionable under the first amendment, it remains A-OK, doesn’t make you a libertarian, it makes you a petty, pedantic corporatist.
1) The FTC is pushing to break Facebook up into three companies for tolerating “misinformation” on its platform (among other alleged offenses).
2) To think that Facebook censoring posts and deplatforming people after the Biden administration flags them is completely unrelated to the ongoing case for breaking Meta up over misinformation is to be willfully obtuse.
3) Biden and the progressives chased Parler off of Amazon’s servers and Apple and Google’s apps stores supposedly for failing to censor content and tolerating speech.
Conclusion: To imagine that Spotify is either completely ignorant of these developments or too stupid to connect the dots, when the White House calls them up to complain about the Rogan content they’re tolerating on their platform, is to be willfully obtuse.
“The Supreme Court first referred to the “chilling effect” in a constitutional context in Weimen v. Updegraff [1952]. Since then, the phrase has been extensively employed in opinions dealing with free speech and with other individual rights guaranteed by the Constitution”.
—-Colombia Law Review, 1969
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1121147?
I’d love to be the genius who first noticed that the chilling effect can and sometimes does violate the First Amendment. Unfortunately for progressives, the U.S. Supreme Court has been talking about this since at least 1952, and the general observation about its effects goes back, at least, to the Roman Republic and ancient Greece. We’re talking about universals and established constitutional law–not something I made up.
Moreover, because we’re talking about someone in an elected office holder telling social media platforms, podcasters, and app stores what they should and shouldn’t tolerate, we’re well within the proper purview of democracy. The First Amendment begins, “Congress shall make no law”, but I don’t see the courts as the first line of defense of our constitutional liberties in this case. The first line of defense is public opinion.
There is no substitute for American voters who are disgusted by progressive politicians–who are openly advocating and practicing censorship. The voters’ wrath is something progressive politicians should fear before they ever dared to start threatening to break up private companies if they don’t censor what they’re told and who they’re told. I guess that means the second line of defense is election day.
Because progressives are openly hostile to free speech is an excellent reason to vote against them in November of this year. Because Joe Biden is openly pushing various privately owned companies to censor users on Facebook and Joe Rogan on Spotify is an excellent reason to vote against him in 2024. Two weeks from now, when the progressives start pushing hard for the government to shut down TruthSocial, free speech will become an even bigger issue than it is now. And come 2024, pandemic “misinformation” will be a weak excuse for a progressive openly violating our First Amendment rights.
By the time the courts weigh in (third line of defense), the progressives will probably no longer be in power in either chamber of Congress, and Biden’s most important issues may be how he’s responding to all the independent counsels that are plaguing him for all his wrongdoings and whether he should just retire to Rehobeth Beach already.
This is like watching a YouTube video about skaters riding a stair railing entitled “Faceplant”. Biden is the jackass on the skateboard, and we know he’s gonna take a faceplant before the video is over. It’s just that February 6, 2022 is still the beginning of the video. We know Biden is gonna eat shit over this. We just have to wait for the end of the video sometimes between November of 2022 and November of 2024.
Dee is willfully obtuse, yes.
A real libertarian’s FIRST instinct would be to protect (and criticize) any attempt from any powerful entity to curb the free exchange of ideas and speech.
No. A real libertarian’s FIRST instinct would be to protect property rights. Full stop.
A. Not really, no.
B. If that were true, you would be criticizing the left, who have been coercing private actors to become political censors for a good 8 years now.
C. There is no other freedom without freedom of speech. Self defense might come first, but speech is a close second. With those, securing property rights is possible. Without? Good luck.
D. I have met real libertarians. Real libertarians are good friends of mine. And you, sir, are no libertarian.
Yes, “they” are indeed trying to take him down. What evidence do you have that “they” is the White House, besides your feelz about it?
The administration: Company A should do X.
Company A: Does X.
Squawking bird: Caw! No evidence! Caw!
Even if the Democrats weren’t in the White House and didn’t have the majority of Congress, couldn’t liberals and progressives still pressure Spotify? You aren’t being logical.
Dunce.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVXJmfd3cmg
It will be interesting to see how the biden administration attempts to spin this as not being censorship.
You mean how the corporate media spins it.
https://twitter.com/Theo_TJ_Jordan/status/1490122575883689986?t=tMwFSaWgmtKeKhmg5INZ-w&s=19
Just saw a Visa commercial with Olympic athletes for “Everyone getting to their starting line”…
First guy: 12 chemo treatments.
Second guy: Amputee (leg)
Third lady: Black.
I wish I was making that up. No more context. Her amputation was that she’s black. Unbelievable.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTxpiFYKqYg&t=18s
Here it is
“I am an African-American and I’m surrounded by people who aren’t” is her handicap
Leftists literally proposing that all black people are handicapped, and somehow this is “anti” racism…
How is that weird I know literal kkk domocrats that say being black is a handicap. Granted they also aren’t a fan of my catholic self
https://twitter.com/potus/status/1490086336971386880?s=21
Here’s the deal: Unvaccinated individuals are 97 times more likely to die compared to those who are boosted.
Protect yourself and those around you by getting vaccinated and boosted today.
—–
When will Biden be banned for disinformation?
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The only things jackass represented was narcisim, celebrety addiction and disrespect for the others. God damn, reason, can you stop having films reviews? You guys always write something that makes one facepalm.
Hey, me invading my neighbours house and sh*tt*ng in their mail box is a love letter to freedom. Make an article about me.
That’s the stuff where the show lost me. I like the fun stunts. The stuff that messes with norms without causing harm is also funny. What I’m not all that into is them not respecting basic personal boundaries and causing harm to others. It’s also not particularly funny when a stunt or skit can only end in major pain. For me it’s one thing to engage in a dangerous stunt that would be cool if they nail it and another thing to just inflict pain. I’ve also never been a fan of how much vomit they put on the show.
For all that criticism, I enjoyed Jackass on tv and have watched all the movies. It’s at its best when the guys are just having fun and its worst when the gags can only end in injury or puke everywhere
Right before the 2020 election there were reports where I live of someone defecating in yards with Trump signs and smearing it on the signs, but whoever it was didn’t make a movie of it. Perhaps they should have.
How could you even manage that? Mailboxes are pretty high up and parallel to the ground.
Lots and lots of Taco Bell.
Oh, so it’s projectile shitting. Now I see.
I give up, what’s going on in that still from Paramount Pictures at the top? I just see someone immersed in a pool of water while sitting on a deck chair and being ministered to by someone who’s prepared for…what?
I always have thought Jackass looked stupid (whole point I guess), and never had an urge to watch it. I guess you could say though that for GenXers: if you do something dumb and get hurt, you own it. For millennials and GenZs: if you do something dumb and get hurt, everybody else owns it except you.
Well said, you may have nailed the societal shift.
The show makes Ow My Balls look like a Criterion Collection selection.
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Buster Keaton and the Three Stooges were doing this kind of stuff long before Jackass, and with a lot more class, so maybe it’s the lack of class that sets Jackass apart. The point seems to be you can become famous if you go through life acting like a retarded frat boy.
Pretending that one show, the audience of which was half millennial, demonstrates an attitude of swathes of people born 20-40 years prior is stupid.
“Indifference to authority,” exemplified by Beto O’Rourke.
I took a group of middle school girls to see the new movie this weekend.
The reports were good. The pull quote was “it was weird. But I liked it.”.
They didn’t gush over it, but they clearly had a good time.
I was kinda surprised. I warned them that it was a bunch of old dudes doing stupid stuff and getting hurt. They nodded and said, “we know. We saw the trailer”.
I didn’t stay with them. No need to waste another 20 bucks for dad to hang around.
I was mildly surprised that they enjoyed it. I always pictured jackass as a 14-29 year old dude kind of product. But the 12 year old girls from the gifted program laughed too.
Oddly, there were no hesitations from the moms as the group put their plans together. They were less concerned than I was. (Which, I believe, is how I got roped into driving).