Vaccine mandates

Los Angeles Prepares to Kick 44,000 Unvaxxed Kids Out of School Buildings

California is leading the country in student vaccine mandates that will disproportionately harm the education of poor and minority students.

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Even as America's overall COVID-19 death toll shoots north of 765,000, one population subcategory remains comparatively—and remarkably—impervious to the lethal virus: kids.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), there had been only 605 U.S. deaths involving COVID among children under the age of 18 as of November 17. That compares to 1,105 pediatric deaths over the same time span involving pneumonia, an infection for which the public education system has not been radically reorganized.

And yet the Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD), the country's second-largest, is poised to bar from schoolhouse grounds as many as 44,000 students who failed to meet the district's November 21 deadline for getting a first vaccination shot, according to numbers crunched by the Los Angeles Times.

The LAUSD, which established the vaccine mandates for students 12 and over in late September, a month into the school year, announced Monday that 79 percent of eligible students had either received or scheduled their first jab, or qualified for a medical exemption. (Unlike LAUSD teachers, students are ineligible for a religious exemption.)

The hard deadline for a second shot is December 19, three weeks before the new school semester begins. All students who don't comply will be shunted into a remote, independent study program called City of Angels, which (per the L.A. Times) "has been beset by staffing shortages and instability. Parents of students with special needs have been particularly upset at the limitations of the program—and many students waited weeks before being able to receive any meaningful instruction." At a current 16,000 students, City of Angels could be forced to triple in size overnight.

Remote learning, which was imposed upon most California schoolkids from March 2020 to August 2021 despite the Golden State's famously temperate climate and generous outdoor school space, has been a well-documented educational disaster. A November 14 National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) working paper on the pandemic and test scores led by Brown University economist Emily Oster found that (in Oster's words) "Bottom line: losses are big, and much bigger with less in-person school."

Yet several California school districts, affecting an estimated 350,000 kids combined, are gearing up to re-sentence their unvaccinated students to remote learning dysfunction. Piedmont's vax mandate deadline was November 17; Culver City's was November 19, San Diego students aged 16 and over have until December 20, Oakland kids hear the vax bell ring January 1, and West Contra Costa follows on January 3. Sacramento and Hayward at least will allow unvaccinated students to test their way into staying in class.

Each of these mandates was adopted after the school year already began; California will have a statewide student vaccine mandate for the 2022-23 year. Lawsuits challenging the student mandates in Los Angeles and San Diego are working their way through the courts; meanwhile, there have been at least two days of statewide student walkouts in protest.

As in the 2020-21 shutdowns of in-person learning, the vaccine mandates will hit poor and minority students hardest. Thus extending the paradox that the polities and bureaucracies most likely to wage politics in the name of "equity" are embracing pandemic policies that disproportionately harm the very people they claim to protect.

As the L.A. Times put it last month in a thorough analysis of the pandemic's effects on schools, there has been a "particularly alarming…impact on L.A. students, [with] deep drops in assessment scores or below grade-level standing in key areas of learning. Black, Latino and other vulnerable children have been particularly hard hit."

Given that California public school teachers and staff are required to be vaccinated, that unvaccinated kids have been stubbornly resistant to even the Delta strain of COVID-19, and that the LAUSD's weekly testing regime of all students and staff alike continues to show a microscopic positivity rate, an obvious question arises: Who, exactly, is being protected by mandatory student vaccinations?

If the answer is the kids themselves, that shows an inability to process risk, and to fully appreciate the provable damage of remote learning. If the answer is their families, surely having unvaccinated kids around the house more, instead of attending mostly COVID-free schools, is more of a danger. If the answer is the community or society writ large, then that's a tacit admission that we're punishing noncompliant students (as opposed to, say, noncompliant members of more powerful public sector unions) because we can.

Are California's student mandates increasing vaccination rates? A little bit so far (though this will increase as the stay-or-go deadlines approach). LAUSD's 79 percent vax-or-exemption rate compares to an overall one-shot state vaccination rate for 12-17-year-olds of 75 percent, which ranks eighth in the country, between Maryland and Virginia, according to the Mayo Clinic. (The national 12-17 rate is 60 percent.) Where does the state rank for vaccinating 18-64-year-olds? Also eighth, at 88 percent, between Pennsylvania and Vermont.

So the heavy-handed requirement is producing marginal rate-gains thus far at the imminent cost of harming the education of scores of thousands of comparatively poor and minority students. To which California's dominant political class responds, If we can save even one life….

"There are 10 other vaccinations that your kids get for measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough," Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said earlier this month, fresh off his resounding victory against a recall effort centered around his strict pandemic policies. "I find it rather just extraordinary and fascinating some of these politicians out there that are just outraged that somehow their freedom has been impacted yet they're doing nothing about the previous mandates that they are accountable for….The politics around this are disturbing to me. Lives are quite literally at risk."

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  1. Well, damn. I thought for a minute there they were kicking the kids out of the schools altogether and I thought they were doing something good for once. But no, they're just kicking them out of the prison in order to lock them in the shed.

    1. No more free day care for their parents. I don't think that is going to go over well.

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  2. Somehow Democrats have convinced themselves that only evil Trump loving Republicans refuse the vaccine. In fact, as a group minorities are just as likely and in some cases more likely to do so.

    The vaccine madness might actually end up being the thing that finally drives minorities out of the Democratic Party. The dumb white people running the party seem to have finally gone too far.

    1. That, and taking union support for granted, even as they threaten to fire union members who don't get vaccinated.

      1. Newsom has been working on exempting the unions from the mandate

    2. "Somehow Democrats have convinced themselves that only evil Trump loving Republicans refuse the vaccine."
      They also enjoy conflating "anti-vaccine" with "anti-vaccine mandate" just so they can pair those people up with the people that are against things like the MMR vaccine.

      1. Lots of the 50centers here use that too. Mention being anti-mandate and they'll all chime in with every anti-vax talking point that RFK jr. has been feeding them for weeks. Bury the point under enough chatter amongst themselves and they make it look like everyone's like that.

        That's the deal. Make people who want to discuss a nuanced point the same as the most extreme. Easier to other them that way.

        Propaganda works.

        1. The idea is to make reasonable points illegitimate by associating them with extreme ones. Like everything these idiots do, after a while it has the exact opposite effect of making extreme points seem legitimate because of their association with such obviously reasonable ones.

        2. I mean, I can go with that.

          Every Democrat is a Stalinist. Every Democrat would lock up political dissidents and murder their opponents. They should probably be threatened with nuclear destruction.

  3. Kick the rest out, shutdown and give the money back to the taxpayers.

  4. When this doesn't work - I'm sure that requiring masks during zoom calls will be the magic sauce that finally works.

    1. I wear a mask.

      It goes on before my pants....

  5. BOTH SIDES, right sarcasmic?

    Tell us again about how the Republicans wanted to force 44,000 kids to get useless and potentially harmful mRNA injections, or lose their educations.

    "The choice between the NSDAP and the SPD in 1933 was merely giant douche and turd sandwich" - t. sarcasmic

    1. He is so far gone at this point. Friends only with straddle, jeff, and Mike at this point. So pathetic. And he has the gall to ask why people call him a leftist. He blamed trump for the current energy issues this morning. A true dumb mother fucker.

  6. "Who, exactly, is being protected by mandatory student vaccinations?"

    That's not the point. The point is that the authoritarians in LA want unquestioned obedience. Whether the vaccine helps protect these kids or their families is incidental.

  7. "California is leading the country in student vaccine mandates that will disproportionately harm the education of poor and minority students."

    Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Everyone's favorite single-party Democrat-dominated state is implementing a policy it knows will hurt poor people?! 😉

    #OBLsFirstLaw
    #LibertariansFor50Californias

    1. Money AND racial discrimination.

  8. moST eqUable People In the worlD!

  9. No mention by Welch of the fact that these "vaccines" are authorized only for emergency use. They do not have full approval and the data relied upon by FDA in the emergency approval process will not be available to the public for 50 years. Not to mention the fact that we have no idea what the long term effects of experimental gene therapy on children will be. As one of the members of the approval board explained we won't know until the kids get jabbed. This is pure insanity.

    1. Social signaling has higher priority than full FDA approval of injected therapies into children.

    2. This. As much as I don't like the statewide mandate, it only kicks in after the vaccine has been fully approved. Mandating an unapproved vaccine is insane. Why bother with approval of any drug in that case? If you trust authorization enough to FORCE children who can barely benefit from the vaccine to get it, why shouldn't authorization be trusted for the latest cancer drug?

      1. if its SOOOOOO SAFE AND EFFECTIVE...

        Why are they STILL hiding behind " you cant sue us?"

        1. Because it is a vaccine. The government pays compensation for all vaccine side effects (or, at least, is supposed to who knows how good of a job it actually does).

          The problem with vaccines is that there is always some probability of adverse event (even placebo has them) but they get approved under the idea that the risk of the disease is far below the risk of the vaccine. The idea is to prevent a situation where, say, a vaccine that would keep a million people out of the hospital, but puts a thousand people into the hospital, and the lawsuits from the thousand bankrupt the company, even though, society-wide, it is a net positive.

          Honestly, the whole concept of being able sue approved drugs at all is a bit odd to me. Given the amount of testing, documentation, and oversight applied, it seems like it ought to be nearly impossible to be 'negligent'.

          Yes, if they mislead or commit fraud, string em up. But if you have two government agencies and several independent committees all in agreement to approve based on a true and fair copy of the trial data, then any injury ought to be considered to be happenstance rather than negligence.

          1. The negligence IS from top to bottom. As all the agencies r a freaking joke. The shot is NOT in any shape or form..., a vaccine. These agencies protect knowone..., but themselves. PERIOD!! Grow up little boy. Your ignorance is appalling.
            The Phucko Knows

          2. Holy fuck carry that water harder and then go look up the FDA recalled drug list.

            Negligence is more than merely possible. This is the government.

    3. Joseph Mengele did it...

      Liberals always like to blame someone else...

  10. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), there had been only 605 U.S. deaths involving COVID among children under the age of 18 as of November 17. That compares to 1,105 pediatric deaths over the same time span involving pneumonia, an infection for which the public education system has not been radically reorganized.

    What a heretic you are, injecting perspective into the discussion.

  11. Just vax your kids, Matt. Jeebus, the gnashing of teeth and wailing is getting old.

    1. Yeah, what could go wrong? No idea! Poke 'em to find out what's in it!

  12. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), there had been only 605 U.S. deaths involving COVID among children under the age of 18 as of November 17. That compares to 1,105 pediatric deaths over the same time span involving pneumonia, an infection for which the public education system has not been radically reorganized.

    It's like watching Matt get red-pilled in real time.

    1. Speaking of watching things in real time. Here you can see Newsom get dumber in real time. Completely losing any cognizance or even vague memory of ideas like 'religious exemption' or anything remotely related to the 1A:

      "There are 10 other vaccinations that your kids get for measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough," Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said earlier this month, fresh off his resounding victory against a recall effort centered around his strict pandemic policies. "I find it rather just extraordinary and fascinating some of these politicians out there that are just outraged that somehow their freedom has been impacted yet they're doing nothing about the previous mandates that they are accountable for….The politics around this are disturbing to me. Lives are quite literally at risk."

      1. He's Californian. Those things are for other states, not statists.

  13. When scientists created mRNA vaccines for Covid-19 last year, they were hailed as an almost miraculous breakthrough. And not just because the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna shots were amazingly effective. mRNA technology was a radically new way to make vaccines, and it came with a huge selling point: It would enable scientists to reformulate the vaccines in response to new variants — and fast.

    Hooray for *checks notes* Big Pharma!

    1. Explain how "effective" the shot is? Can't stop u from getting it. Can't stop u from getting sick.
      Can't stop u from spreading it.
      Can't stop u from dying from it. Oh..... That's right it "makes" ALL of that...., a bit LESS troublesome. So how does one ACTUALLY qualify that? On your headstone do u get to put; "It could've been worse"? These Mrna shots with the Gain of Function chaser had been being worked on for yrs at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. In 2015 the FDA shut down Fucci's little scam for all the harm it was doing. He and Barry then moved it ALL to Wuhan. And clowns like u think China "fixed" all the problems. Stupid truly is as stupid does.
      The Phucko Knows

  14. There's some nice synchronicity with recent reports coming out of the Denver area that high school kids have basically turned in to little assholes at school (well, a LOT more than usual)--treating teachers and staff like shit, fighting each other constantly, racial ephithets, trashing the school and local businesses during lunch breaks. The consensus seems to be that keeping them out of class stunted their emotional development, but part of me suspects that they're just pissed off at all the social and economic upheaval and are taking out those frustrations on the nearest targets. This shit's even going on at Cherry Creek High School, which is basically the rich bitch public school.

    Can't wait to see how this goes down in a poorer district like L.A. Funny thing is that Reason and the commenters have been warning for MONTHS that shit was going to go pear-shaped if teachers didn't stop pretending to be scared they were going to die of COVID and get their asses back in school last year, and called parents who complained about it "selfish."

    Justin Timberlake's "What Goes Around" song seems appropriate here.

    1. What these people did to kids during the pandemic is a crime against humanity. The teachers and the unions should never be forgiven for it. Think about all of the kids out there who have bad homes or no homes and for whom school was their only escape and only stability. There are millions of kids like that. And those assholes happily locked them in their homes for a year because they loved the idea of getting paid not to do their jobs. No fate is bad enough for the teachers' unions and school boards who did that.

      1. Seriously. We really need to have the talk about reducing teacher wages. They cost our society way too much by sitting at home for a year, they deserve to be penalized, because this generation of kids are fucked. They’re gonna fuck up america when they get into leadership positions, and the earth won’t be rid of them for another 50 years. Thanks a lot teachers.

      2. "Think about all of the kids out there who have bad homes or no homes and for whom school was their only escape and only stability."

        This is a real problem. My daughter is an Elementary School counselor. She tells me that those kids even get nervous on Friday's and just before Holidays. They would rather be in school away from their parents.

    2. And Washington is going back to remote learning in places because remote learning caused the kids to be too antisocial for in-person... This is insanity.

      We need to bring back beatings. Early interventions are less consequential than 30 years late and Rittenhouse'd.

  15. Government says, "Children must be in school."
    Government says, "Children must be vaccinated to be in school."

    Who owns the children? Why do parents keep voting for these kind of governments? Or maybe some parents like the government to own the child and the parent is just along for the ride.

    1. You vote? Fucking loser.

  16. "Stomp on the unvaccinated" meets "minorities hardest hit."

    Will this collision of two progressive talking points produce cognitive dissonances. Probably not, since they haven't developed cognitive dissonance from a bunch of other weird stuff either.

  17. Let's also not forget the other subtle 'racism' of this policy. Every vaccine forced into a 12 year old is a vaccine not being exported to low income countries to vaccinate the 80 year olds who actually want it.

    The demographics of the countries unable to secure enough vaccines are overwhelmingly non-white.

    1. yep. But that plays with the Sanger- Gates plan to kill off poor people in these countries.

      They just cant reuse the Swastika....

    2. South Africa is at 3% covid fatalities. They don't give a hoot about the not-vaccine.

  18. And yet the Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD), the country's second-largest, is poised to bar from schoolhouse grounds as many as 44,000 students who failed to meet the district's November 21 deadline for getting a first vaccination shot

    Makes me wonder how SAT/ASVAB scores have been effected since the “deadly pandemic” school shutdowns began. Keeping the kiddos out of school may actually benefit their academic performance, considering the dismal state of public education.

  19. Yes Gavin, we do vaccinate children against CHILDHOOD DISEASES, measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough, polio, etc. that kill children. Those vaccines have decades of testing and data with millions of children for evaluation, not 3,000 kids tested over several months of a vaccine for "emergency use only."

    Covid-19 has lower death rates than other respiratory diseases. We do not force the flu shot on children and shouldn't force.

    The downside of education losses far outweigh the risks of Covid-19 and the authoritarian class knows it.

    1. 100000000 % ^^^^^^^^^^

    2. You fell for the bait. Previously, you had the ability to say "I don't give a shit how effective the MMR vaccine is, I have a moral obligation to my God and free men everywhere to tell you to go fuck yourself. COVID changes that equation not one single iota. I'm exempt."

      Now, stepping up to their table on their terms, you're just wagering against the house with loaded dice.

  20. They WANT poor stupid people to keep voting Democrat welfare.

    This is a plus for the Radical Left.

  21. It's Chinatown. Unlike VA, CA has a legion of leftwing lemmings (childless to boot) who can counter any parental objections.

    The real tragedy here is that this will likely lead to even more exodus from the state and the disease of liberalism (there is no vaccine for it) will spread to other areas.

    The gas prices in LA are $4.50 - 4.75. Loony DAs have effectively legalized theft. Supplies sit at LA harbors unmoved. The state is on the brink on something unpleasant, and the people running it don't see it.

    1. (there is no vaccine for it)

      Vaccines are not the only way to achieve herd immunity.

      1. Immunity will never be reached for a flu virus.

        1. Incorrect. Conceptually, either a population is 100% immune or exterminated. To the extent that a survives between those extremes, herd immunity is achieved. Assuming 100% immunity is unattainable the only alternative to herd immunity is extinction.

          The herd is immune to influenza and has been for millennia.

    2. Supplies sit at LA harbors unmoved.

      I've been told that LA's famously awful traffic that's been awful since the late 70s is suddenly to blame. Those trucks have a tough time navigating the 5 O'clock commute and thus can't get goods to North Platte.

  22. They came with their Doctors and their lockdowns. Torched our economies, suffocated our lungs with masks, destroyed the minds of our children, killed and maimed us for life with poison filled needles…

    And now they want us to be thankful to the WHO for being saved…

    from a cold.

    Once the psychopaths responsible for this are swinging from lampposts, we must never forget this tyranny, and Never allow it occur again.

    Always remember (click next link):
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  23. Awe; The wonderful side-effects of Commie-Education camps in a Nazi-dictated state.

    But oh well; I'd much rather CA keep it's Nazism local. Nazi's have thrown away the US Constitution and from where I sit; they don't deserve a single protection from it. Just keep you Nazism our of the federal government.

  24. Who does this mandate protect? You silly person, it protects the sophisticated things of course: teachers unions, political rhetoric and stock values!

    Because that's all that matters to Dems until they can change the voting age.

  25. California: School is mandatory.

    Also California: You're not allowed to go to school.

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