Government Officials Hunger for More Revenue Through Food Taxes
Inflation isn't the only reason some folks may be paying more for dining and groceries.
At a time of rising food inflation, food taxes are increasingly in the news. And while some cities and states have seen fit to reject taxes on foods sold by grocers or restaurants, others are going in exactly the wrong direction.
Food taxes have made headlines recently in Minnesota, Oregon, Utah, and Kansas. In Sartell, Minnesota, for example, residents will vote in a special election in February that will determine whether the city will impose a tax on foods sold by restaurants and bars there.
A pair of similar votes took place in Oregon this month, with mixed results. Last week, voters in Newport, Oregon, rejected a proposed five-percent tax on prepared foods and beverages sold by restaurants and bars. Supporters claimed the proposed tax would have added more than $2 million to city coffers in its first year.
While Newport's mayor had touted the tax as a way to address an "impending structural deficit," the city had proposed to use the money to hire new staff, including a parking-enforcement officer, and to spend around $200,000 "for one-time grants to assist businesses in implementing collection of the new tax."
Opponents, on the other hand, explained why the proposed tax was unfair—citing everything from the impact of food inflation on residents' abilities to feed themselves and their families to the effects of COVID-19 and related restrictions on the restaurant industry, which is struggling still to recover.
"No industry was more negatively impacted by COVID-19 than the hospitality industry," Mike Franklin, owner of Newport Chowder Bowl, told the Newport News before last week's vote.
"Massive layoffs of employees, complete shutdowns or limited hours of operation, limits on indoor dining and increased prices or shortages from suppliers have all contributed to devastate the restaurant industry."
In Cannon Beach, a couple hours up the Oregon coast from Newport, voters chose to adopt a similar 5 percent food tax by a narrow 52-48 margin. Funds raised from the tax will be used to build a new city hall and police department offices.
Before the vote, Shelly Crane, who owns local business Oil and Vinegar Bar and opposed the measure, questioned both the tax and how funds raised by it would be allocated.
"Do we need a new city hall, probably[. D]o we need it now? No," Crane told the Cannon Beach Gazette. "The timing of this is horrible, they are not thinking what affect this will have on restaurants. We have all been hit hard due to the pandemic."
While Oregon municipalities went in different directions on restaurant food taxes, in neighboring Utah, lawmakers are considering abolishing that state's grocery food tax altogether.
According to the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP), a nonpartisan group in Washington, D.C. that opposes food taxes, Utah is one of 13 states that taxes residents' grocery purchases. State Rep. Rosemary Lesser (D–Ogden), who's pushing to repeal the state's food tax, said she's worried about the regressive nature of such taxes.
"For people who are living paycheck to paycheck, the food demands don't change, and people sometimes have to choose between a roof over their head and finding food from whatever sources they can," she told Utah Public Radio last month. In a separate op-ed last month, State Rep. Lesser also noted that a food tax "disproportionately hurts low-income Utahns and contributes to food insecurity."
In Kansas, similar arguments have been raised as part of efforts to repeal or reduce that state's food tax. And it's also become a campaign issue in the state's looming gubernatorial race.
While current Democratic Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly campaigned in 2018 on a promise to cut the state's food tax, the current leading GOP candidate for the state's top job, Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt, said last week, in remarks reported the Topeka Capital-Journal, that Gov. Kelly has dropped the ball on repealing or reducing the state's food tax, which the CBPP says is the nation's second-highest, after Mississippi's.
"This issue has had bipartisan support since long before Laura Kelly was governor," Schmidt said. "It's true that then-candidate Kelly campaigned on this in 2018, and it's also true that three years into her administration she has completely failed to deliver on that promise."
Food has long been a popular target for those seeking to squeeze more tax dollars out of consumers. "The same factors that make food taxes so attractive to lawmakers are what make them so odious to many consumers: they're all-but-impossible to avoid," I opined in a 2017 column. "Everyone buys food; food taxes punish everyone who buys food."
As I've also noted, when governments claim higher food taxes somehow won't impact prices paid by consumers, critics who disagree are inevitably proven correct. When food prices are sky high and countless restaurants are struggling to survive—both the case today—food taxes are particularly unjust and unwelcome. That's why any discussion of food taxes today must focus on the need to reduce or eliminate them altogether.
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It’s not like the party overtly advertised its intention to turn everything on its head in an attempt to remake the nation in a more socialist fashion on its main campaign websites or anything…
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The party of Jefferson Davis will stop inflation with HAPERINFLATION.
Because why should a 3% price increase be imposed when you can at least double that?
Luckily, it has only affected the price of spittin’ tobaccy, so really not a problem.
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Recall paying $0.99/pack of Marlboro in 1998. And now that is what, $9.00? More? Some of that is the government tax spike. Because cigarette taxes should be used to buy diapers. When working at a state CDC, spoke with a person funded by that tax. She was adamant that she wanted all smokers to quit and would gladly lose her job when the funding was then gone. But not really. The masters don’t feel that way either; hence the full court press on vaping to get folks back into tobacco.
Must have been a heck of a sale, because the average price for a pack of smokes in 1998 was over two bucks.
So, average meaning it was higher in some places and lower in others?
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I was just up near Chicago last weekend. Cigarettes are over $9 per pack there. Here in St. Louis, I can get 2 for that.
Yet Chicago police can’t understand why anyone would smuggle cigarettes there…
(They really can’t understand anyone who’d do it, and not give them a cut of the proceeds.)
Haha! I’m so old. I began smoking when I could buy a pack of Lucky’s from a Machine for $0.30 and there would be 3 pennies in the bottom cellophane as change. YeahI was 9-10 years old.
I don’t smoke, or post links to kiddie porn, pedo.
and mortgage rates hit 9.25%. goodbye housing bubble.
Bought my first house in 1983. Rates were 13 percent.
All of Buttmunch’s talk about “spittin’ terbacky” is rich considering that high taxes on tobacco are especially bad in Progressive New York. So much so, that the have brought about a smuggling black market that takes place between high-tax New York and much lower taxed North Carolina.
Also, New York’s Draconian tobacco tax enforcement is what led to the death of Eric Garner in 2014, who was murdered by law enforcers over the sale of “looseies.” Maybe Buttmunch should put a pinch of that b’tween his cheek ‘n’ gum!
https://youtu.be/N9T83iPWuO8
Pop-Up Video Factoid: Two Centuries before it was used by baseball players and rednecks, snuff was used by prim and proper aristocratic ladies and landed gentry. Kinda puts Buttmunch and Reverend Artie
n a bind on whether to make fun of it, huh?
The “spittin’ terbacky” thing is just bigotry. Dildo hasn’t really put that much thought into it.
Bigotry? Is there a NAATP or TADL to call about this?
I just thought the stuff gave cancer to everything it touched from lips to sphincter and left no one to tell the tale.
That’s a myth.
Got a medical sheepskin for that or can you cite a medical sheepskin holder who says that?
Wait, it’s touching your…? I think you’re smoking it wrong.
LOL! Naturally, it’s not from using Terbacky as a suppository. 🙂
I’m not a Doctor and don’t play one on TV, but I read those who are and have a family history of cancer and I here’s what I derive:
The cancer from Spittin’ Terbacky results from the carcinogenic juices touching the lips, teeth, tongue, gums, uvula (you could almost anagram that for fun,) pharynx, larynx, Adam’s Apple, esophagus and trachea, stomach and lungs, then the kidneys, liver, pancreas, intestines, colon, prostate, and finally the sphincter, and every capillary and lymph nod, lymph gland, and lymph vessel in between.
There are lots of lymph vessels and the cervical node in the head area alone and once cancer hits anything in the lymphatic system, it spreads like wildfire everywhere else.
The best bet is to not give Oncologists or Buttmunch anything to work on and don’t give the Feds any reason to continue subsidizing Tobqcco. If you have never used it, don’t start, if you use, quit, and either way, self-test and get tested early and often.
Come to think of it, that’s another thing to rub in the face of Progressives. Federal Government subsidies of tobacco started in The New Deal continue to this day, even in the COVID-19 Endemic, even though tobacco smoking is known to weaken the body’s ability to cope with viruses:
Feds to give tobacco farmers up to $100 million in COVID-19 aid
https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/feds-to-give-tobacco-farmers-up-to-100m-in-covid-19-aid/
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“Inflation isn’t the only reason some folks may be paying more for dining and groceries.”
There. Is. Literally. No. Inflation. Any website promoting such anti-Biden misinformation is, by definition, wingnut.com.
How many times does Mr. Buttplug need to explain this before everyone gets it? He’s Reason’s leading economics expert, and he insists the only item that has increased in price is smokeless tobacco — and even that’s only risen by $0.10 per pouch.
#DefendBidenAtAllCosts
There. Is. Literally. No. Inflation.
No, inflation will be contained to the 2% Fed target in the end.
Really, you can’t quote me without a subscription to The Buttplug Letter – the leading economics investment publication in the US and only $495/year. (no price increase in 30 years since the Great Inflation Spike of 1991).
Lol. Infantile hope in your savior.
And the AMA will sponsor your next NAMBLA convention.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental. If he included numbers they are either out-right lies or cherry picked such that if used by an honest person, they would prove the opposite of what turd is claiming
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
You’re a child molester. You should commit suicide.
You’re one step behind, OBL.
Dems are now acknowledging there is a small bit of temporary inflation, but it’s a good thing.
A pun in an article title. Had to digest that for a bit. Well done on this rare occurrence.
Came here to congratulate you on your new gig writing headlines. Hope the rest of the commentariat can stomach it.
I thirst for more.
It is feast or famine with headline puns. Usually the latter.
As the Stalin meme observed: “Dark humor is like food. Some get it. Some don’t.”
It left a bad taste in my mouth.
The tax tastes horrible, but the pun cleanses the palate.
Pundits not impressed?
They just need to chew on it for a while.
I thought food puns would be your scarf ace!
Careful! Chumby’s’ got his head in a bowl of Lik-M-Aid! He might wake up and say: “Say ‘Hello’ to my little friend!”
Their imitation of you is their sincerest form of flattery.
Enjoy your insanely expensive chicken wings while you’re watching the games today America!
And fuck Joe Biden and all his malarkey.
Mikey,
You should take a course in Econ 101
Chicken wings are in short supply nationwide due to Texas storms and soaring demand for the ‘pandemic-proof’ delicacy
The scarcity is due to soaring demand, plus the Texas winter storms, which impacted flocks.
https://www.businessinsider.com/chicken-wing-short-supplies-demand-texas-storms-2021-4?r=US&IR=TIR=T
Because no chicken factories have been able to recover since April.
God damn youre dumb.
Recovery of the chicken factories may not have been first in the recovery pecking order.
Don’r you ever get tired of being humiliated, dipshit? Like when you were mocking me recently about the Durham investigation and then literally just days later one of the top Dossier guys got indicted? You make a complete fool out of yourself here on the daily and all of sitting here laughing endlessly at your fat ugly Ron Jeremy lookin’ ass.
So you’re saying prices for chicken wings are not going up due to increased demand and short supplies, or are you saying he’s wrong because he’s a poopy head?
You rush to protect spb posting a article for April in order to deny inflation is happening? Lol.
I’m surprised you don’t have him muted.
I’m not. He is down to 3 friends.
Jack, Jim and Bud?
Jack, George (Dickel), and Jim were Comedian/Writer Lewis Grizzard’s Holy Trinity, the mention of which got him hate mail and threats from all over the Teatotalling Fundamentalist Protestant Christian South.
Jack Daniels, Jim Beam and Bud Weiser.
Don’t forget Captain Morgan and Johnnie Walker. sarcasmic has been known to spend a lot of long nights with those gents.
Sarc is so thirsty now.
I figured as much. The other Bud is the “one of those things that’s not like the others.”
I thought Sarc got invited to a HALF million dollar lake house, by ‘cool dudes’. Did they not like him? Hard to imagine that.
Yes.
I’m just wondering because the he didn’t say anything to actually refute what SPB said. He just attacked him as a person and declared a smug victory, like the many attack trolls I have on mute.
Well, it’s all a perfect storm of cluckery fuckery and inflation of the currency never makes it better.
Nobody is arguing against that. SPB was saying that there are other factors making it worse.
He consistently lies. He also posts child porn links here. Do you think he deserves anything more than a brutal attack? Do you consider him worthy of your respect?
Did you bother to read what spb said? Using an article from April that no longer applies to deny inflation is happening?
Inflation is always undeniable, since the common denominator of any transaction is money, so one can fool me about that. The other factor of the Texas Winter is a sectarian addition to the problem, but other sources of chickens could off-set that.
I’m a breasteses man anyway and when that supply is short, that’s what frosts me.
like the many attack trolls I have on mute
Reminder that sarc often boasts about being the biggest attack troll of all:
sarcasmic
August.12.2021 at 4:45 pm
I only show up to watch the clowns duke it out while tossing in this or that provocation. Bread and circuses. This is a circus.
September.10.2021 at 12:14 pm
I like to stir shit up. So what.
In his defense, the stirring up part may have been referring to a dirty martini.
Durham?
The fake scandal that you and Donnie-Boy called the “biggest political scandal in US history”?
You befowl yoself, Mikey.
Nuh uh! You’re wrong because you’re a poopy head! Neener neener poopy head!
Mikey’s not the sharpest of the Red Hat Cult. Go slow with him.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/washington-post-edits-adds-editors-notes-to-at-least-a-dozen-steele-dossier-stories
Youre dumber than the lefties who get paid to write shit at wapo.
I’m starting to get that. I should probably put him on mute with the rest of the attack trolls.
done
Whatever fuel you need for your bullshit sanctimonious act lol.
OH! OH! sarc got called on bullshit, muted another commenter and bragged about it!
Aren’t you thrilled to hear such important info about sarc?! sarc thinks it’s VERY important!
How……………….
pathetic.
Ideas!
But aren’t you just thrilled to be informed of such important decisions in sarc’s life?!
just don’t know how I survive without this sort of information!
BTW, sarc, stuff it up your ass, fuck off and die.
Poor sarc.
An now youre denying the Durham investigation? Youre so fucking broken. You still can’t admit the 4 years of your bullshit has been completely debunked. Even wapo has amended a dozen of their trump russia stories and yet you double down.
I’m not denying that there IS a Durham investigation.
I am saying it is like the Benghazi investigation by Congress – a load of shit designed to distract voters.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental. If he included numbers they are either out-right lies or cherry picked such that if used by an honest person, they would prove the opposite of what turd is claiming
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
So bullshit lies made up by the DNC to effect and election then taken over by the deep state and IC to hamper the president is no big deal? What the actual fuck?
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental. If he included numbers they are either out-right lies or cherry picked such that if used by an honest person, they would prove the opposite of what turd is claiming
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
It’s always the weather with you guys, never the government meddling or mandates.
Believe it or not, but there are factors other than government than influence prices.
Who proposed that strawman you are tilting at?
sure, but shutting down businesses and firing workers and making unemployment benefits overly generous doesn’t help the supply chain. and showering the economy with trillions in freshly printed money doesn’t help bring prices down.
And other factors can make it even worse.
“Believe it or not, but there are factors other than government than influence prices.”
Apologist for lefty tin-pot-dictator wannabes heard from!
Fuck off and die, asshole.
You’re not thankful for the White House turkey?
No more taxes. Why isn’t there a “cut spending” party?
Of interest and slightly controversial.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-white-racists-vote-for-black-republicans/ar-AAQCZxu?ocid=msedgntp
Why White Racists Vote for Black Republicans
Ed Kilgore – Yesterday 8:14 AM
“He’s one of the good ones!”
If I heard it once from racist friends and family members growing up white in Georgia during the end of Jim Crow, I heard it a hundred times. There were some variations in wording, but the idea was very clear and consistent: Partly in an unsuccessful attempt to absolve themselves from racism (particularly when overt white supremacism went out of fashion) and partly to underline disdain for the alleged characteristics of most Black people, plenty of white folks in my neck of the woods (and doubtless elsewhere) went out of their way to express admiration for select members of a race they despised. These favored few were thought to exhibit traits antithetical to prevailing racist stereotypes; most of all, that included the refusal to acknowledge white privilege as merited.
Why isn’t there a “cut spending” party?
That’s pretty fucking simple. Government spending means jobs and wealth transfers. If you’re on the receiving end, or close to someone who is, you’re probably not going to vote for someone who promises to end that income. And since that describes most people, the chances of someone winning on a “cut spending” platform is exactly nil.
Like when Biden called Obama clean and articulate
And not the last time Biden would be publicly condescending toward black people.
Will, not would. I’m sure he’ll slip up again.
Good point.
sarcasmic
October.28.2021 at 3:21 pm
Flag Comment Mute User
Show me a racist Good ‘ol Boy and I’ll show you a red hat.
heh
Is he trying to turn in his DNC intern badge or something?
“refusal to acknowledge white privilege”
Although there is a commenter here I refer to as “Impostor Buttplug,” this was definitely written by Real Buttplug. Because it drives home one of his major themes: conservatives are racists.
You can always spot the Impostor because he attempts to paint Buttplug as a stupid, lazy, sloppy moron who cannot maintain internal consistency to save his life. Just watch. I bet he’ll be here shortly to say something like “I’m not a progressive, I actually oppose reparations and affirmative action.” IOW the Impostor would have us believe Buttplug is so amazingly idiotic that he’d call conservatives racist — and then admit he agrees with conservatives on the most controversial race-related issues.
I mean, really. Nobody would be dumb enough to score an “own goal” that embarrassing.
#StopSmearingButtplug
I reluctantly muted Mr. Buttplug. But your “best of Buttplug” posts keep me updated on his kernals of wisdom.
Hmm…
https://reason.com/2018/10/18/trump-orders-5-percent-spending-cuts-acr/
The problem of course is congress and the take care clause. As well as impoundment which requires the spending of allocated funds.
See, that is the problem with you Trump Cultists.
Didn’t you get the memo? You’re not supposed to take Trump literally. Us Trump haters do that. He LITERALLY lies thousands of times a month.
The press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.
Stay with that from now on.
Yes. Double down on being fucking ignorant.
Do you even know what impoundment is?
https://budget.house.gov/publications/report/impoundment-control-act-1974-what-it-why-does-it-matter
All you biden cultists are fucking ignorant as shit.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental. If he included numbers they are either out-right lies or cherry picked such that if used by an honest person, they would prove the opposite of what turd is claiming
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
So, more racist projection from lefties.
Fuck off bigot.
Buttplug would likely also likely molest Kids Of Color.
It’s amazing the bullshit leftists will print to preserve their precious bubble.
There is a “cut spending” party and it’s been around for 50 years. They’ve never hit 4% in national support. People like free stuff.
Here’s a realistic LP platform the voters rejected (mostly because they thought he didn’t have a chance):
https://www.wnd.com/2000/12/517/
On that first day in office, by executive order I would:
Pardon everyone who had been convicted on a federal, non-violent drug charge, order their immediate release, reunite them with their families, and restore all their civil rights. (Anyone convicted of using violence against someone else in a drug case would not qualify as “non-violent.”)
Pardon everyone who had been convicted on any federal gun-control charge, tax-evasion charge, or any other victimless crime, order their immediate release, and restore all their civil rights.
Following the issuance of the pardons:
I would announce a policy to penalize, dismiss, or even prosecute any federal employee who violated the Bill of Rights by treating you as guilty until proven innocent, by searching or seizing your property without due process of law, by treating you as a servant, or in any other way violating your rights as a sovereign American citizen.
I would immediately order that no federal asset forfeiture could occur unless the property’s owner had been convicted by full due process. And I would initiate steps to make restitution to anyone whose property had been impounded, frozen, or seized by the federal government without a legal conviction. (Over 80 percent of such seizures occur when no one has even been charged with a crime.)
As commander in chief of the Armed Forces, I would immediately remove all American troops from foreign soil. Europe and Asia can pay for their own defense, and they can risk their own lives in their eternal squabbles. This would save billions of dollars a year in taxes, but — more important — it would make sure your sons and daughters never fight or die in someone else’s war.
I would order everyone in the executive branch to stop harassing smokers, tobacco companies, successful computer companies, gun owners, gun manufacturers, alternative medicine suppliers, religious groups (whether respected or labeled as “cults”), investment companies, health-care providers, businessmen, or anyone else who’s conducting his affairs peaceably.
I would end federal affirmative action, federal quotas, set-asides, preferential treatments, and other discriminatory practices of the federal government. Any previous president could have done this with a stroke of the pen. Do you wonder why none of them did?
And then I would break for lunch.
After lunch, I would begin the process of removing from the Federal Register the thousands and thousands of regulations and executive orders inserted there by previous presidents. In most cases these regulations give federal employees powers for which there is no constitutional authority.
I would call Office Depot and order a carload of pens — to use to veto congressional bills that violate the Constitution or that spend more money than necessary for the constitutional functions of government.
I would send to Congress a budget that immediately cuts federal spending in half — on its way to reducing the government to no larger than its constitutional size.
Congress would undoubtedly pass a larger budget and expect me to sign it. I wouldn’t. I’d veto it.
Would Congress override my veto?
Maybe it would and maybe it wouldn’t.
Even if Congress succeeded in passing bills over my veto, the battle finally would be joined. We finally would have something we haven’t had in my lifetime — a president standing up to Congress.
At long last, there would be two sides arguing in Washington — one to increase government and one to cut it sharply…
And this was 21 years ago.
Of course the 2024 would have to include something about gay wedding cakes and CRT.
And nothing about Office Depot.
The problem never has been a President standing up to Congress, but the opposite: a Congress standing up to the President. Hell, even standing up at all would be an improvement for Congress.
I got a woody from that platform.
Harry Browne? I voted for him.
That was before I voted for gridlock (which has a chance to win).
“I voted for him”
Funny way of spelling “Bill Clinton”.
Voted Reagan first vote in 84.
Became annoyed with him for big gov programs like EITC, EMTALA but mostly his War on Drugs (loved my MDMA) and his sidling up with the Religious Right.
voted LP 1988-2000.
Then Dumbya came in. I could not believe a POTUS could be so bad. Medicare Welfare, NCLB, Patriot Act, Wars etc.
I only vote gridlock now. the best we can hope for from the feds is NOTHING. Gridlock.
Was anything you posted true?
He is a paid shill of OSF so probably not.
“Voted Reagan first vote in 84”
1. You’re way too old to be so ignorant and immature.
2. I’ll bet the farm you actually voted for Mondale.
He claims that election was stolen.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental. If he included numbers they are either out-right lies or cherry picked such that if used by an honest person, they would prove the opposite of what turd is claiming
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
They’ve got something like that here. You get to pay a special tax when you eat at a restaurant or buy prepared food.
They also have a “snack tax” to punish sinners who like chocolate. Unless they buy a Twix. Twix contains flour, so the snack tax doesn’t apply.
“Twix contains flour, so the snack tax doesn’t apply.”
???!!! That’s nuts.
It’s the snack that eats like a meal?
There probably are British people who eat their Twix with knife and fork.
They do call them “biscuits”.
So wrong.
There’s no nut in Twix…unless they are Peanut Butter Twixeses.
Waaaay back when I was a kid, probably during Brown Sr’s reign, I remember reading a newspaper article about the legislature holding hearings on taxing snacks, specifically whether those peanut butter and cracker vending machine items were taxable or not. See, food was not taxed, but prepared meals were. They finally decided that is the food item included a little plastic spreader and a separate tub of peanut butter, it was untaxable food. But if the food item was already assembled with peanut butter between the two crackers, it was taxable prepared food.
I was already anti-government and anti-bureaucracy and anti-meddlers, this incident was not some changing point in my life, but it sure reinforced it.
Yet all those snacks and sugary drinks are covered by food stamps.
Yeah, if you eat a bearclaw at Panera, you pay a tax (in California).
If you buy a bearclaw at Panera to take home to eat, no tax! Because it’s food then, not a restaurant meal.
Not taxing groceries is one of the few things California does right, as far as taxation. But I remember now dealing with the exact same thing at Le Boulanger. (Not Panera, but basically the same thing.)
I haven’t even lived in California for three years now, and I still have to pay them income tax when I sell stock options, because I earned them while working in California. Grrrrrrr.
Luckily they can’t get your 401k when you leave, though they’d like to.
I am taking it with me.
See? Hihn was right !
Left + Right = zero.
He’s sarcasmic’s patron saint.
Hihneken
If he went there to revive the Tulip Bulb Mania, you could say he was “Booed and bottled in Holland.”
More like the Hihndenburg—OH THE HUMANITY!!!
Don’t forget the new espresso machine at Police HQ.
With Artesean Dough Donuts and quintouple-smooth goat’s cream cheese icing?
Must be Hipster Cops.
I remember going into a little country store that had a refrigerator case of various heat-n-eat foods in it and next to it a microwave oven. The microwave had a big sign on it telling you to pay for your food before heating it in the microwave. I asked the guy behind the counter what that sign was all about, did they have a problem with people heating their food up and then eating it without paying for it? No, he explained, the thing is that cold food is considered “groceries” and there’s no tax on groceries, once you heated up your chili dog or bowl of Spaghettios it was considered prepared food and therefore subject to a 5% sales tax.
Well why should he have cared? Was he a beneficiary of the prepared food tax?
Yes. Most of his customers were regulars. And neighbors. So it kept more of their money in their pockets.
I misunderstood what he said. Now I undrstand.
I guess you could say that now I won’t have to say: “Please come again?”
That’s what she said!
I admit I walked into that one. 🙂
Oh wait. I see what you’re saying now. Wise practice, although slow-motion looters are a problem too with convenience stores.
Circuit Court Judge Kurt Engelhardt is killing it with that spiffy yellow bow tie.
Seriously, it’s always a little reassuring, in a seemingly degrading country, when Executive overreach gets thwarted by the courts. I loved it when it happened to Trump, and I love it when it happens to Biden.
You have defended the mandates and attacked those who have been against them for a year.
All he does is lie.
It happened to Trump? I distinctly remember him saying something along the lines of “I’m the president, I do what I want” with his minions cheering him on.
The last time you posted this a dozen people showed you the quote was about him talking about firing executive branch members which is is allowed to do dummy.
Trump never let’s reality impinge on his perceptions.
Penn Juliette has told a story many times about a phone call Trump received on the set of Celebrity Apprentice. Penn could clearly overhear the products telling Trump the most recent episode’s ratings were mediocre. Trump hangs up and announces to everyone on set that they killed it in the ratings.
“…Penn could clearly overhear the products telling Trump the most recent episode’s ratings were mediocre. Trump hangs up and announces to everyone on set that they killed it in the ratings.”
This is the sort of shit TDS-addled assholes find important; sorta like telling your wife she really looks good today when she’s sick.
Fuck off and die, mike. And stuff your TDS up your ass; you’re head’s looking for company.
This is that Trump fixation discussed a few nights ago.
We have an inept and egotistically dangerous POTUS botching decisions left and right. And some tv show ratings here say is what is important. As long as it casts orange man bad in a poor light.
Yes.
And the TDS-addled assholes are nothing if not tribal; that sort of cheerleading gets a back-pat in most management positions.
Students marched in support of Joe Paterno. Because #team.
“We have
ana new inept and egotistically dangerous POTUS botching decisions left and right.”ftfy
“Penn could clearly overhear the products telling Trump the most recent episode’s ratings were mediocre. Trump hangs up and announces to everyone on set that they killed it in the ratings”
??? Literally so what? Keeping spirits high is what good bosses are supposed to do.
If you ever wasted time looking at one of those “Trump Caught Lying Eleventy Hundred Times!!!” lists (I did once), this is the sort of crap you’ll find.
Try Obo and you’ll get “You can keep your doctor!”; REAL lies.
Get back to your hood Sevo.
In your case it would be the Tenderloin.
Trump never let’s reality impinge on his perceptions.
That certainly rubbed off onto his faithful.
Projection as usual.
“Penn Juliette has told a story many times”
Even if Trump said that, Penn comes across as the douchebag in that story. People who spread negative gossip are petty assholes and if the gossip is about someone more famous than them, they are vain attention whores to boot.
Penn comes off as a tattle teller.
Very good point. Tattling on a lying douchebag is far worse than being the lying douchebag. Especially if the lying douchebag is the president.
I wouldn’t describe what Biden is doing as “Executive overreach”, I’d more describe it as “Executive Reacharound”.
Wouldn’t that be more pleasurable.
Not when it’s non-consensual.
Do you feel stupid attacking those against mandates for 10 months yet?
Can you believe the balls on this guy?
What’s JesseAz lying about this time?
Lol. I’ve posted links to everything you’ve said. Are you calling yourself a liar?
He’s responding to my comment, so my guesses are:
a) accusing me of saying something negative about Joe Biden just to pretend I’m not a libera
b) complaining that my negative comment about Joe Biden also made a negative comment about Trump, so I’m engaging in “bothsidesism”. (Which is true. I do “bothsidesism” all the time, because I believe bothsidesism is true.)
c) just plain insulting me
You two idiots know other people see what I write right? You postulating is just pure idiocy lol.
Youre literally admitting to being ignorant.
They’re peeking too, Jesse. They just have to pretend that they’re not.
See, even Spellcheck knows you’re not a libertarian.
I figured it was his usual expecting me to defend something I never said nor did.
I mean. They are literally links of your posts unedited. Everyone can see that. Makes you look even stupider.
Here is sarcasmic lying about people against mandates.
sarcasmic
August.30.2021 at 11:46 am
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Either the vaccine is 100% safe and effective, or there is no point in taking it at all. If you say it’s a good idea then you’re saying it’s 100% safe and effective, and you’re wrong. Just to prove it people who’ve been vaccinated have died of the disease. That means it’s a joke. It doesn’t work at all for anyone. It’s all a big lie being pushed by Democrats who want to take away our freedoms. Don’t you know anything?
Those are your own words sarc.
You don’t think sarc is going to take responsibility for anything he posted ten to fifteen minutes ago, do you?
Nope. He has the short and long term memory issues all alcoholics have. Also the sanctimonious personality built on bullshit to hide the guilt of being a pathetic asshole.
I wouldn’t confuse balls with abysmal stupidity.
This is great, the academic John Kenneth Galbraith is super-dooper butthurt that a group of academics are creating a new university (the University of Austin) that isn’t going to exclusively cater to only the extreme far left, and where quaint old notions like freedom of speech and diversity of opinions will be not just respected, but encouraged:
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/university-of-austin-by-james-k-galbraith-2021-11?a_la=english&a_d=618e9a68cb464b268b413a5d&a_m=&a_a=click&a_s=&a_p=homepage&a_li=university-of-austin-by-james-k-galbraith-2021-11&a_pa=curated&a_ps=&a_ms=&
Seriously, why is the creation of one new university so upsetting Galbraith that he feels compelled to whine this much about it? I suspect maybe latent guilt may have a lot to do with it.
Why can’t you wingnuts be satisfied with Hillsdale College and Bob Jones U?
Wingnut University
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Buttplug swears he’s not a prog.
Buttplug prefers Old Dominion U.
https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/12/university-professors-book-aims-to-destigmatize-pedophilia-because-theres-no-immorality-in-being-attracted-to-children/
I’m actually impressed he’s a professor.
“From my perspective, there is no morality or immorality attached to attraction to anyone because no one can control who they’re attracted to at all,”
Conservatives have been saying that we were heading this way for decades. Rationalizing a desire is the first step toward acting on it.
Counterpoint, why can’t you progressives be happy with the other 43,946 universities you’ve captured via your long march?
No such luck on an a Long March for Progressives.
Mao lost 90 percent of his 80,000 minions during the real deal, 30,000 alone in one battle with the Kuomintang. (This according to Red Chapters a pretty good Communist history mini-series on Pluto.tv. On demand and free with minimal commercial interruption.)
You mean James K. Galibaith. John Kenneth Galibraith no longer exists, M’Lady.
Because when one cop isn’t dirty, it makes all the dirty cops a bit uneasy.
Gall Breath is still alive?
Tourist towns on the Oregon coast (like Cannon Beach) probably figure a tax on restaurant meals and drinks will hit the tourists the hardest, so someone else will pay for their tax hike.
It’s the same reason taxes on hotel rooms and rental cars are so high in podunk cities like Minneapolis and Phoenix.
I live in Vacationland, and the state government has no trouble selling taxes under the guise of “Fleece the tourists!”
Ah, that provides some rationale for why they would tax restaurants. It made no sense (not that taxes usually make sense).
Dee is just now realizing that vacation destinations tax restaurants for the purpose of taxing tourists. She’s smrt.
Logic is taxing for Dee.
Pro tip: Shitty weather is the biggest tax on tourism in Cannon Beach. The tax is so high, I never go there anymore.
Although in Minneapolis I think a lot of the proceeds went to the Minnesota Vikings, so they would have a new stadium to choke in.
“podunk cities like Minneapolis”
Not podunk enough anymore
Is this the Apocalypse? I see Baylin Linnekin’s foodie column on a Friday, but no Reason Roundup as of this post. What gives?
This is Saturday, unless I missed the memo that last week was “turn the calendar back one day”.
Damn, you’re right. The days are just swimming by!
Where I am, it just feels like a Weekday. Much obliged on the re-calibration of my internal time-clock. 🙂
Wish I could claim to never having done the same…
I never stay too discombobulated, though long stints of working in the stead of stimulus check-ers will do it sometimes.
5th circuit denies government appeal of vaccine mandate injunction. Highly recommend you read the whole thing. It’s good stuff.
Injunction junction, what’s your function? To stop inept Biden dysfunction.
The fact they basically said to not try making a law as this is a constitutional issue was great.
I’m bored…
Can someone convince sarcasmic to release the rankings on his enemies list today? It shouldn’t be hard, he’s got to be shitfaced by now.
Pretty sure I’m still no 1 😉
Lost it for a day to you. Good work on that btw.
Let’s try and guess. Here’s my list based on who I’ve seen him troll and flip out on in the last two months:
Ground Zero. Tulpa
1. Ken
2. You
3. Me
4. R Mac
5. Sevo
6. Nardz
7. Chuck P.
8. Diane Reynolds (Paul)
9. Gray_Jay
10. Ra’s al Gore
11. Unicorn Abattoir
12. Vulgar Madman
13. Gaear Grimsrud
14. Fats of Fury
15. Jerryskids
16. Don’t look at me!
17. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf
18. Salted Nuts
19. Weigel’s Cock Ring
20. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian
21. Chumby
22. SoldierMedic
23. EISTAU Gree-Vance
24. Rev. Arthur L. Kuckland
25. Red Rocks White Privilege
20. Idaho Bob
22. damikesc
23. to 77.
In no particular order:
John, I Woodchipper, Claptrap, Utkonos, perlhaqr, ElvisIsReal, CannedSaltyHam, Anomalous, Brian, Fist of Etiquette, Dizzle, Square = Circle, Earth Skeptic, Commenter_XY, Smack Daddy, MP, NOYB2, JimboJr, The Encogitationer, CE, Brett Bellmore, Eeyore, Cyto, Wearenotperfect, Earth Skeptic, Jerry B., Spiritus Mundi, bevis the lumberjack, Quo Usque Tandem, Not Robbers=Nut Rubbers, Moonrocks, Bill Godshall, Seamus, CannedSaltyHam, D-Pizzle, TangoDelta, Cal Cetín, A Thinking Mind, rbike, Hank Ferrous, Enjoy Every Sandwich, Dillinger, Liberty Lover, spiggot, Agammamon, MatthewSlyfield, Minadin, Enemy of the State, H. Farnham, Nachtwaechter Staater, Titus PUllo, Longtobefree, NoVaNick, Rufus The Monocled
78. It’s hard to figure out the next hundred, because I think the invective that rolls their way all depends on how drunk sarc is. And he might not always remember that he put them on his list.
Woohoo made it to 24!
If he remembered you muted him it’d probably be higher.
Ha! Beat you! #16 going to #1 someday baby!
Challenge accepted!
Does this get us banned from speaking at school board meetings?
And AA meetings.
The sarcle is complete.
The sarcle of life
Sarcle jerks.
New Gingrich’s likely herpes victims:
Ground Zero. Tulpa
1. Ken
2. You
3. Me
4. R Mac
5. Sevo
6. Nardz
7. Chuck P.
8. Diane Reynolds (Paul)
9. Gray_Jay
10. Ra’s al Gore
11. Unicorn Abattoir
12. Vulgar Madman
13. Gaear Grimsrud
14. Fats of Fury
15. Jerryskids
16. Don’t look at me!
17. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf
18. Salted Nuts
19. Weigel’s Cock Ring
20. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian
21. Chumby
Turn yourself in to the sexual crimes unit.
Everyone else is the problem, not Buttplug and sarc. It’s everyone else who’s wrong.
He’s Sarko-ko, The Lord Low Fry Cook and he’s got a little list.
https://youtu.be/PZwsbNn1g5k?t=9
With Chemjeff as Yum-Yum, White Mike as Pitti-Sing and Buttplug as Peep-Bo
Three Dem shills who, all unwary
Come from an ActBlue seminary
Freed from its genius tutelary
Three little shills who troll
Three little shills who troll
Aw, gee! I only rated 41. Then again, I only said I preferred well-done steak. I guess I’ll have to up my game for the next count. 😉
It’s just guessing on my part Encog. I remember now that steak really did make him mad. You were probably in the top five that week.
I’m #23?
Damn, I gotta start looking back at threads for replies. As far as I knew, I’d never gotten one. I go one time through the comments and I’m done. Hence the lack of back and forth from me.
Plus, I’m usually late to the party, being a left coast resident with a job.
I figure staying in conversations is either more fun or very irritating. I’ll check it out someday. For now, mocking lefties and getting back to work is about as involved as I wanna get.
I do miss KARen though. Haha.
Yeah, yeah, Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair.(TM) We got it. 😉
I did acknowledge your Trademark, though, so maybe something is fair after all.
Don’t worry. It looks like we’ll all get on somebody’s shit list soon enough on this Comment section.
The last time a women looked at me and said, “I’m bored” I was married to her three months later. Beware of boredom.
You bored her and then you bored her.
The tunnel of love.
While boarding.
Such a boor.
Like a boar at the trough.
Was she a Dutch Afrikaaner? If so, then you could bore and get bored on a board like a boorish boar at a trough with a Boer.
Maybe listen to Bowie and reach a bouy and land at a bay with your Bae and procreate and have a boy.
The tunnel? Just one?
Bed and Bored?
At a hostile hostel..
Good news for all who are hoping for Justice.
Anderson Cooper hosted one of the victims of Rittenhouse’s shooting spree, the lone survivor, and allowed him to “clarify his testimony” after unscrupulous defense attorneys tricked him into admitting he was pointing a gun at Rittenhouse’s face when he was savagely gunned down by a white supremacist.
Is Cooper aware there are criminal penalties for admitting you lied under oath?
Only if the DA files the charges, and you get convicted.
Sort of like the distinction between peaceful protestors and insurrectionists.
Golly, what are the chances that particular DA would file charges?
But what if you lied about the lying?
(In Wisconsin you could be convicted of “false swearing” if you say contradictory things under oath such that they can’t prove which one was perjury but they know *one* of them has to be. Different crime, but same sentence as perjury. But it only applies if both statements are under oath, and I doubt GMA swears in their guests.)
Austria just says “to heck with it, let’s just lock down the unvaccinated entirely”.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/581345-austria-follows-through-on-unvaccinated-lockdown-threat
Unvaccinated people in the Austrian regions of Upper Austria and in Salzburg will only be permitted to leave home for specific reasons, such as grocery shopping or doctor’s appointments, per ABC News….
“The aim is very clear: that we give the green light this Sunday for a nationwide lockdown for the unvaccinated,” Schallenberg said, according to a Reuters report.
What is it with Austrians wanting to lock up everyone?
Not everyone . Certain people.
You know what else came out of Austria?
Falco?
Von Trapp family?
Alois Schicklgruber, best customs agent in the Austrian civil service.
Also…..You know which OTHER Austrian had a thing for shutting down universities?
The Austrian maintenance man during the Summertime?
Oh, deer….
https://www.ktoo.org/2021/11/12/how-sars-cov-2-in-american-deer-could-alter-the-course-of-the-global-pandemic/
Now veterinarians at Pennsylvania State University have found active SARS-CoV-2 infections in at least 30% of deer tested across Iowa during 2020. Their study, published online last week, suggests that white-tailed deer could become what’s known as a reservoir for SARS-CoV-2. That is, the animals could carry the virus indefinitely and spread it back to humans periodically.
If that’s the case, it would essentially dash any hopes of eliminating or eradicating the virus in the U.S. — and therefore from the world…
Probably because they don’t bother to mask up, and never stopped going to the local watering hole….
Is there anything this man made virus can’t do?
They fawn over their freedoms, bucking mandates and doen’t mask.
Oh deer. That’s no good.
I think your commentary might be in a rut, with all of this punning, Chumby.
Didn’t the deer get the mask memo?
Buck Joe Biden
I thought there were a couple of other domestic mammals this bug had shown up in? Like cats or dogs?
Nice to see that public health officials are finally beginning to acknowledge publicly that we aren’t getting rid of this thing, no matter how many people you jab.
How would they even know a deer is sick—does it have a red nose or something? I’d say they’re bambiboozling us again. That’s why I never read the Hoofington Post!
You’ll have to consult with a doector.
A doector? A deertor? A female deer doctor?
What’s up Peanuts?
Humorously; Rich people buy food too…..
How about STOP picking who gets punished by tax and just tax FAIRLY across the board…
The ‘poor’ can visit their local welfare office instead of this compulsive need to paint the whole population as ‘poor’.
… ‘poor’ is the *misplaced* term that put National Socialism on the USA map only seconded by ‘its for the children’…
Should our ruling class really be playing games with hunger? I’ve heard that doesn’t always go so well with them either…
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Would you mind please indicating when you are linking to a video rather than an article that can be read.
Hovering over a link is a thing.
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The claim of the Biden administration is that they will only tax the rich, but in reality the majority of actions that they have taken the are taxing the poor.
If you increase taxes and decrease a person’s available cash by 20% or you cause inflation where the same amount of available cash is worth 20% less, then it is the same thing.
You have negatively affected the person and the person has 20% less of what they could have had. Poor people have less excess to winter the storm than a person who has enough excess wealth to cover the needs versus the wants.
Oh, but they are providing more “Handouts to the Poor” they claim… The reality is that the vast majority of the funds for the “Handouts to the Poor” go into the perpetually growing bureaucracy and never see the pocketbooks of the poor.
It’s time for Government to go on a Diet instead of the Poor. Stop the heavy handed regulations that prevent the Poor from gaining ground financially. Stop treating the Poor as being incompetent and get out of their way.
When a person sells single cigarettes on the street, this side gig to earn cash. They don’t sell the singles as a sign of belligerence or civil disobedience. They are attempting to improve their financial condition. However the puritan minded woke liberal mob determined that their needs to be laws against a selling a legal substance on the streets.
Side gigs are commonplace in poor areas because puritan minded woke liberal mob leaves the poor no alternatives. The puritan minded woke liberal mob is condescending to the poor because their help only forces the poor to remain helpless so the puritan minded woke liberal mob can virtue signal how compassionate they are.
Leave the poor alone and stop regulating them into permanent poverty. What is the harm of selling singles on the street? Your precious overlords do get their portion of the taxes? Get over yourselves, look introspectively and you will see the authoritarian in the mirror.
With all of the talk of white privilege, the reality is that this is actually the puritan minded woke liberal mob and their authoritarian tendencies.
Let people be people and stop attempting to force people to comply to you vision. Treat people how you want to be treated is a simple rule to follow. Place yourself in someone else’s shoes and attempt to view life from their perspective. We could all benefit.