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Virginia's Gubernatorial Election Has Become a Referendum on Public Schools

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One week from today, voters in Virginia will go to the polls to pick their next governor, and school choice has become the defining issue of the race—though perhaps not exactly in the way that libertarians would prefer.

Because Virginia law does not allow sitting governors to run for reelection, the two major-party candidates seeking to replace Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam are Democrat Terry McAuliffe, who was the state's governor from 2014 through 2018, and Republican Glenn Youngkin, the former CEO of The Carlisle Group, a venture capital firm. The race should have been a relatively easy one for McAuliffe in a state that's increasingly out of reach for Republicans: Virginia has elected only one Republican governor this century, and the GOP hasn't won a Senate race in the state since 2002 or a presidential race since 2004.

He may still prevail, but McAuliffe stepped in it during the final debate between the two candidates last month when he responded to a question about parent-led protests at school board meetings by saying "I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach."

That line has been getting heavy rotation in the campaign ads that have been hammering Virginia airwaves for weeks.

There are two ways to tell that the moment—and the ads it spawned—have significantly shifted the race. First, recent polls show that parents of school-age children are far more likely to support Youngkin.

Second, McAuliffe has had to break one of the cardinal rules of political campaigns—never, ever, add fuel to your opponent's attacks by acknowledging them—in order to respond directly with ads of his own arguing that Youngkin is somehow taking those words out of context:

In fairness to McAuliffe, there is a small bit of missing context here. The protests in Fairfax County were organized by parents who objected to the county's high school including Toni Morrison's Beloved on a reading list for seniors. That's a Pulitzer Prize–winning novel, not a porno rag. Parents who don't want their teenage children reading the book can be free to object, of course, but banning books is always an extreme overreaction. In 2017, McAuliffe vetoed the so-called "Beloved Bill" that would have required Virginia schools to notify parents of "sexually explicit content" on students' reading lists.

But like all the most memorable political gaffes, McAuliffe's response to this controversy at the debate strikes a chord because it seems to perfectly sum up the candidate. McAuliffe is a longtime ally of the Clintons. Teachers unions love him. He opposes school choice despite having sent his own kids to private schools. You know the type—in fact, there's probably a few of them running your own local school board.

His sit-down-and-shut-up vibe also resonates in Virginia right now because the state's northern suburbs—a crucial bellwether for both state and national elections—are pretty much ground zero for Republican-led school board culture wars. In Loudoun County, tensions rose as parents besieged school board meetings to complain about the teaching of "critical race theory" and then boiled over when a transgender student was convicted of sexually assaulting another student in a school bathroom.

Youngkin's campaign has been promising to "save our schools" and it's pretty obvious that Republicans nationally are expecting the Virginia governor's race to provide a roadmap for next year's midterms. If Youngkin wins, or even if he loses narrowly, you can expect a doubling-down on culture wars everywhere.

Parents should obviously get a say in their child's education. But it is more important for political leaders to foster an educational system that allows for a diverse set of options—that is, one that allows families both a voice and an option to exit.

Youngkin is promising to help Republicans win the fight for control over Virginia's public school boards, but that's really just a promise to keep the culture wars burning hotter. A better alternative would be to diffuse those fights by offering families more alternatives so that it doesn't matter so much which political tribe controls the public school monopoly.


FREE MINDS

All the hoopla over the so-called "Facebook Papers" is a big nothingburger, writes Reason's Robby Soave.

The revelations published this week in several major newspapers and based on documents leaked by former Facebook employee Frances Haugen are supposed to show that the social media giant prioritized "rage and misinformation" in order to keep growing. Instead, it all seems to confirm that Facebook is struggling to attract younger users and is increasingly being carved up by newer, more agile competitors.

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg acknowledged those issues during a call with investors on Monday:

"No amount of handwringing about addictive platforms or monopolistic practices can disguise the fact that the site is losing popularity with young people, and increasingly looks like a dying star," writes Soave.


FREE MARKETS

The world's first commercial space station is in the works, thanks to a collaboration between Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin and several other private spaceflight companies.

Orbital Reef, The New York Times reports, would be capable of housing 10 astronauts at a time and could be built by the end of the decade.


QUICK HITS

• Thanksgiving is going to cost a wing and a leg this year.

• Executives from TikTok and Snapchat will soon be hauled before the Senate to explain the internet to confused septuagenarians.

• Despite his own flagging poll numbers, President Joe Biden is going all-in on the Virginia gubernatorial race.

The U.S. accidentally killed a food aid worker and his family via drone strike last month—amid a food crisis in Afghanistan:

• Your latest reminder that war with China would be a disaster.

• Washington, D.C., is America's fourth-most rat-infested city according to the pest control experts at Orkin. Make your own joke.

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  2. Thanksgiving is going to cost a wing and a leg this year.

    If Lord Fauci deigns us the privilege of even having it.

    1. Keep us a breast.

      1. Oooh, way to stick your neck out.

        1. Folks gobble up those puns.

          1. "No puns are the worst", he thighed in exhaustion.

            1. No henpecking puns!

          2. Anyone who doesn't like them can go get stuffed!

        2. I never realized the extent to which I have taken advantage of white meat privilege.

          1. Opposition my beat the war drum; stick to keeping quiet about this.

            1. Could Fauci's goose be cooked? 🙂

              1. Let me take a gander.

                1. You guys deserve medals for this.

                  1. twelve deep and nobody's thought to beat the stuffing out of the murderous troll.

                    1. I heard he’ll be getting a pardon from Biden.

                  2. Medallions in gravy to be precise, with cranberry cluster!

            2. Stuff your opposition. The rest is just gravy.

    2. The turkeys were killed by removing their vocal cords and letting insects eat their heads while still alive.

      1. Science can be messy. Fauci may be like Cuomo and all of his major crimes disregarded, but you can't be aggressive to puppies, whether they be actual puppies or sweater puppies.

      2. Can it possibly be worse than what Mr. Carlson at WKRP did?
        https://vimeo.com/243777281

        1. I remember the episode; "hit the ground like wet bags of cement," right?

    3. Fauci needs the drumsticks so he can play the Henry VIII role to the hilt.

  3. Executives from TikTok and Snapchat will soon be hauled before the Senate to explain the internet to confused septuagenarians.

    Make sure they know that their browser is now a PDF viewer.

    1. You will download Adobe and you will like it.

      1. Have you guys heard about these new "cell phone" thingies where you can carry your phone around with you? I have no idea how that works, I'm assuming you need a really long cord with them, but apparently they're a hot new market.

        1. Why are people in cells getting phones? Sounds like those damned Democrats are at it again.

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          1. Those aren't available in Maine you know.

            1. You have to travel to Texas for these. There is a sports bar there that serves the best Cubans: Houston Castros

        3. I'm fully invested in phone booths. Should I diversify my portfolio?

          1. Does that facilitate making margin calls?

            1. No, buying calls.

        4. They're just for people in prison.

  4. Despite his own flagging poll numbers, President Joe Biden is going all-in on the Virginia gubernatorial race.

    Let's go, Terry.

    1. LGB-T?

  5. Because Virginia law does not allow sitting governors to run for reelection
    That’s a beautiful thing.

    1. Bernie Sanders hardest hit. "You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 governors when children are hungry in this country,"

      1. The best part of capitalism, our poorest people are obease. Yep the worst part of being poor in this country is too much food

        1. But Maine is about to make Food a Right, like healthcare, so that problem will be fixed soon.

          1. Will hunting and fishing regs be done away with as they will prevent you from this' right.' Basically the new poll tax.

          2. Have they expressed, in any way at all, what the hell that actually means?

      2. Why even have governors? "States" are racist and anti-democratic, right? Uber alles, or something.

      3. By the time Bernie gets through Chiquita will have to change theme to "Yes, we have no bananas".

    2. I used to think it was a good thing too, but not so sure anymore. It turns every governors’ election into a circus and they get to avoid any accountability for their actions since they aren’t running for re-election.

      1. Anything that reduces their power is a good thing.

        1. But does it reduce their power or push them to drive power to the departments where it can be abused with less oversight and across administrations?

        2. It might reduce their power, but the power doesn't disappear. Instead it is transferred to the staff which largely transfers from one governor to the next. This unelected and largely more radical group effectively governs with a rotating figurehead.

      2. And then they just come back 4 years later and get re-elected anyway

  6. Fuck president cornholio

    1. Because we can't get TP for our bungholes!

    2. If Beavis and Butthead were Pres and VP, we'd have legalized pot nationwide.

      1. Sleepy joe does kinda look like beavis.

    1. I'm sure there's another seat on the national assessment board for this hero.

    2. Cripes!
      Public schools are child abuse.

    3. People wearing nose rings shouldn't be allowed near children.

    4. The 19th amendment was a mistake.

  7. "Thanksgiving is going to cost a wing and a leg this year."

    LOL

    More desperate attempts to make Biden look bad. I will repeat my two-pronged left-libertarian position on inflation:

    1. Inflation isn't actually happening.
    2. Even if inflation does happen, it won't matter because Koch / Reason libertarianism is about making billionaires richer, not about helping middle class families feed their children.

    #LibertariansForBiden

    1. Democrats like stuffing.

      1. And the gravy train.

        1. Why would they want turkey. They filled up on pork.

          1. You’re saying they aren’t too chicken to pig out on something with which they don’t have a beef regardless of whether they want to duck responsibility?

            1. That’s just a bunch of bull. All they are interested in is goosing their numbers.

              1. Ewe keep lambasting them and they’ll start feeling mutton but sheepish.

                1. They're great at gobbling it down.

            2. Turduckpigbeefen?

              1. Emugoosturducken. Spitroasted.

                1. Kangawalladingo.

    2. Nobody really has to TRY to make Biden look bad.

      1. Pity Jeff and Plug who's job it is to defend him.

        1. It's pretty funny, at this point.

    3. Bad News. Everyone must eat insects for Thanksgiving.
      Good News. Everyone gets a drumstick.

  8. ….Facebook is struggling to attract younger users and is increasingly being carved up by newer, more agile competitors.
    Facebook is the next MySpace.

    1. That may be - in the US.

      I always thought the big issue was overseas. Facebook was a major precipitating cause of Arab Spring. But also the ethnic cleansing of the Rohingya in Myanmar and the civil war in Eritrea/Ethiopia.

      This goes so far beyond the quest for advertising dollars targeted to young English speakers.

    2. Facebook is the next MySpace.

      That's why Facebook “whistleblower” testimony is designed to engineer a Facebook-friendly social media regulatory scheme to lock in Facebook’s dominance.

      Zuckerberg doesn't want competition, and the establishment doesn't want a platform that they can't police speech from.

  9. "Virginia's Gubernatorial Election Has Become a Referendum on Public Schools"

    Spoiler warning: McAuliffe is going to win comfortably.

    1. At least 110% of the vote.

    2. Fortifications are in place.

    3. McAuliffe let the mask slip a little though, when he said public schools should just ignore parents and push their own agenda. Never rile up the voters in October.

  10. "This Year’s Thanksgiving Feast Will Wallop the Wallet"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/dining/thanksgiving-inflation-supply-chain-food-costs.html

    Good thing I saved those 16 cents on 4th of July.

    "There is no single culprit."

    I can think of one. LET'S GO BRANDON!

    1. Fuck Joe Biden

    2. Stop with the vulgarity please.

      1. Fucking monsters should know better. We already got rid of Hitler, don't be mean to the new guy and scare him away.

  11. Washington, D.C., is America's fourth-most rat-infested city according to the pest control experts at Orkin. Make your own joke.

    Filthacrapia is first.

    1. What about Ratchester, NY?

    2. Both places are a ratastrophe.

    3. You have to look at the problem RATionally.

    4. Can the rats vote?

      1. They want to participate in the democRATic process.

        1. So loft the same height? Make it just as easy to hit put of the park?

  12. the Taiwan Relations Act ... details an ambiguous policy in which the United States said it would be a matter of “grave concern” if Taiwan’s future was determined by “other than peaceful means.”

    Obviously the solution is to amend the Act to include "and you don't want to see what our response might be".

    1. Don’t make us send a sternly worded letter!

    2. Rich, you probably see the same thing I do. The communist chinese will invade Taiwan, and in all likelihood be successful. Taiwan is 110 miles off China's coast, and the correlation of PLAN forces is adverse to Taiwan to the extreme. I just do not think Taiwan can make itself into a porcupine fast enough.

      The question is what happens afterward. Meaning, what kinds of reactions will we see from Japan, Australia, South Korea, Vietnam, and the Philippines. I am not sure that 'containment' as a foreign policy is going to work here against the communist chinese like it did with the Soviets. We will need something profoundly different.

      1. Now do the number of landing craft needed to get those PLAN forces ashore in the face of a gazillion drones.

        PSA from the US Navy: "There are two things in the ocean; US submarines, and targets".

        1. You expect China to invade with aid workers carrying water???

      2. What I'm curious about is how the White House can say Biden "misspoke" on the policy.

        Is the President NOT the person who sets the fucking policy?

        1. Normally. But these are not normally times.

          1. But getting BACK to normal is why we supported and voted for Biden!

            —Reason staff

        2. Where have you been? We have flipped from taking every off-the-cuff comment by the president as absolute policy, to assuming the president is just speculating out loud, and really does not mean what he says.

          1. Did you ever look at the WaPo's catalogue of Trump's "lies"? Half of them were attacking figures of speech. It was insane.
            "On March 5th Trump called committee members 'mindless'. This is a lie, as they were all highly qualified. You can't obtain a doctorate or their work history without a 'mind'".

        3. Impeachment 1 was literally because trump didn't listen to the policy of long time state officials. See vindman testimony.

    3. If you have family in tiwan get them out. By 2025 the Island will be a death camp

      1. So, how many people in Taiwan are innovative and productive, and inclined towards free societies and free markets? How could we trade them for the same number of people in California who would be happier under socialism?

        1. Excellent plan, except add DC to CA.

    4. Get some American journalists to help out with the interpretation so the fire bombings and murders will be framed as mostly peaceful since they're in support of marxist ends.

      1. NY Times: "Did you call?"

  13. Your latest reminder that war with China would be a disaster.

    Link to paywalled WaPo article. I will just assume that it advocates doing nothing to dissuade Taiwan being consumed by the CCP.

    I seriously hope none of those containers bottlenecked in CA are filled with people fleeing the eminent communist takeover.

    1. It worked for Crimea.

    2. Where are 40% of the entire world supply of semiconductors made?
      Answer: Taiwan

      This fact alone is enough for the communists to invade. They would cripple the world's semiconductor supply in one shot. It is the electronic version of what Saddam was trying to do back in 1991 with oil (control 40% of world supply).

      1. Only Iraq was about 5% of the oil market

        1. Saddam did not invade Iraq

      2. Except oil remains in the ground during a war.
        Factories get destroyed.

    3. Oh holy fuck that's a grim thought. (The bit about container refugees.)

  14. "The world's first commercial space station is in the works, thanks to a collaboration between Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin and several other private spaceflight companies."

    Why do the same left wing media propagandists who claim the world will end in 2-3 decades if carbon emissions don't fall to zero) continue to promote space flights (without ever mentioning that they emit enormous amounts of carbon dioxide)?

    1. Do you think the poors are going to be allowed to flee to space stations and Mars colonies?

      1. Wasn't that the plot of total recall?

  15. No amount of handwringing about addictive platforms or monopolistic practices can disguise the fact that the site is losing popularity with young people...

    Putin is such a boomer.

  16. "I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach."

    Debates are no place to say the quiet part loud.

    1. "We could give you some of your money back, but you might not spend it right."

  17. But it is more important for political leaders to foster an educational system that allows for a diverse set of options—that is, one that allows families both a voice and an option to exit.

    I just knew Reason would use failing public schools as an excuse to push school choice.

    1. The thing is, they are essentially right about it. School choice and a free market in education would be the optimal solution. The problem is, though, it's sort of like addressing high gas prices by saying "Well, if we just perfected a perpetual motion machine, this wouldn't be a problem at all!" Yeah, that's true. But it sort of begs the question of where do you get that perpetual motion machine from? It's kind of the same with education. Yeah, it would be a lot better if we had a free market and parents could decide on their kids' instruction. But, right now, private schooling and home schooling make up a very small part of education. And the numbers aren't going to skyrocket to make a huge difference anytime soon. So, in the meantime, what do we do with our public schools? Should they be answerable to parents or to the educational bureaucracy and teachers' unions?

      1. Parental discontent with public schools is at an all-time high. If the public school wall is going to start crumbling, this is the best shot in a long time.

        1. Oh, yes, gosh golly, if we just let the public education bureaucracy and teachers unions have carte blanche to push their agendas on students, why we might even get the percentage of parents opting out of the public school system from 11% to 15%. Sure, 85% of education will be exactly opposite of everything those parents believe in and support and, of course, those parents will still have the privilege of paying for the public education bureaucracy's and teachers unions' indoctrination efforts. But 15%!!!1!!eleventy!!

          1. You may be right.

            Personally, my kids are no longer in the public school system, so that affects the amount I worry about it all.

          2. The preference cascade on Gay Marriage was pretty fast as well. In 10 years, republicans went from 80% opposed to gay marriage to 45%. Across the whole country, it went from about 40% support to 70% support in the same time frame.

            People take shit for granted all the time, right up until they don't. The way to do this is to attack the leaders of these organizations that maintain the myth that people don't want free choice with their schools. Did you know that the NSBA - supposedly representing school boards (which are supposed to represent parents) around the country- has an official platform against School Choice? Becoming active in these organizations is the first step in creating the preference cascade.

            1. The problem is, that a lot of parents dislike the overall system, but like what their kids get from it. Most people hate congress, but reelect their rep w/ 70% of the vote. As a whole, the public school system sucks, but my 3 kids have/are getting a great education. There are plenty of kids in our rural district that aren't, but my kids are. Improving public education is counter to the teachers unions grifting more money for doing a worse job, and actually fixing things is much harder than blaming systemic racism.

      2. Um your analogy doesn't really work since perpetual motion machines are not real, while private, charter, home schools do in fact exist in reality.

        Probably better to go with the tried and true - you don't redesign the house while its on fire - analogy.

        Just saying.

        1. perpetual motion machines are not real

          Neither is a consensus in favor of mass privatization of education.

      3. Shut them down and refund the money to taxpayers, so they can afford a modern PC and a good internet connection, to avail themselves of the best distance learning options online.

        If it saves even one child or one teacher, wouldn't it be worth it?

    2. Fucking unreason, always shilling for the libertarians.

      1. Youre not a libertarian.

      2. +1 Broken Sarcasm Meter

        1. Life is hard when you’re as dumb as Dee.

        2. LOL, I was being sarcastic, too. So, I’m not sure whose meter is broken here.

          1. No you weren't. You said something dumb.

            1. Again.

              1. As usual.

  18. I knew the Biden Era would be awesome. I just didn’t know it would be THIS awesome.

    Elon Musk went up $36,200,000,000 yesterday for a 2021 gain of $119,000,000,000 which brings his net worth to $289,000,000,000.

    From its earliest days the primary objective of Koch / Reason libertarianism has been to concentrate wealth at the very top. Giving Democrats total control in Washington DC has accomplished this to an extent I would not have thought possible.

    #VoteDemocratToHelpElonMusk

    1. His stockholders rode up along with him.

  19. Boehm's got a major scoop there that the anti-science, anti-education hillbilly fascist breeders real school issue is wanting to burn a Toni Morrison book. CRT and TG rapists are just a smokescreen.

    1. Of you don't want your daughter raped your a terrorist

    2. I like how notify[ing] parents of "sexually explicit content" on students' reading lists was framed as "burning books".

      1. It's literally violence.

  20. It’s my impression that the dems are about to blow this one big. I’ve noticed several houses with Youngkin signs on their lawns that had Biden signs less than a year ago, and without the evil orange man to motivate their voters, they don’t really have anything else. Plus it is obvious now what a POS McAuliffe really is.

    1. The memory of Evil Orange Man still looms large.

      Or at least Democrats will get as much play out of it as they can.

    2. Yeah, but when you cheat, it doesn't matter how terrible your candidate is.

      1. Tell the Hillary campaign.

  21. • The U.S. accidentally killed a food aid worker and his family via drone strike last month—amid a food crisis in Afghanistan:

    Reason still hasn't written/published an article about the Capitol Police Officer murdering Ashli Babbitt on Jan 6, nor have they published any articles revealing that many of the folks who advocated breaking into the Capitol, and who were the first to break into the Capitol were rogue Democrat FBI/DOJ agents who tried to frame Trump (likely due to Pelosi's orders).

    1. Local stories.

      1. Thanks for the link. So far good read.

      2. Ray Epps didn’t kill himself.

      3. Is there a movie where in a single year all the whackiest conspiracy theories turned out to be true? I'd like to know what to expect.

        They way 2021 has been going I expect to learn that the queen is a lizard alien from the planet Zargoz very soon.

        1. I like that plot - for a movie.

    2. They weren't "rogue" agents. They were doing exactly what they were assigned to do.

    3. Nor the solitary confinement for parades, leftist judges doubling their sentences, fealty statements as part of their court sentencing, prisons not releasing medical records, contempt of court, etc.

      Local news.

    4. I presume because Reason isn't run by nut cases. I hope.

      1. Yeah, it certainly not news when a cop kills an un-armed protester, right Syd?

        1. I’m told it’s perfectly justified to shoot someone trespassing on public property.

          1. Sorta looks like Syd is of that opinion, but I'm waiting to see if it's a case of abject stupidity or sarcasm.
            Syd?

            1. That was definitely Jeff's opinion.

              1. In jeff's case, there is no reason to doubt abysmal stupidity.

                1. Jeff is a double threat guy; stupid AND a douchebag.

                  1. Triple threat, because he’s also extremely dishonest.

            2. Doesn't look like Syd wants to enlighten us regarding his opinion of a cop murdering an un-armed protester. Wonder why?

  22. It says a whole lot when Bohem's typical "Those terrible republicans" writing can't even make McAuliffe look good.

    I mean, he tried. "Republicans besieged" the school boards. CRT is a "Republican culture war". He can't even acknowledge that the parents are pissed off that the school board attempted to cover up two sexual assaults by a TG student. No, McAuliffe merely has a "sit down and shut up VIBE" you see. It's a vibe, while its the Republicans on the attack.

    That is just how bad the left is doing right now- they still look bad after all Boehm tries to do to support them.

    1. When using the term "cultural war" it is often associated with Republicans. Democrats don't do cultural wars, they are just always correct about the culture and the Republicans want to fight them.

    2. They didn't just cover them up, they had their gestapo beat the shit out of the father when he tried to speak publicly and sought actual jail time (by the county prosecutor herself) for disorderly conduct.

      This is legit totalitarianism.

    3. Boehm is a birdbrain. That is the simple explanation.

      1. He did vote for Biden despite Bidens campaign promises.

    4. I will vote for Jo Jorgensen—unless I believe there is a chance that Joe Biden will somehow fail to win Virginia, in which case I will vote strategically and reluctantly for Biden. - Eric Boehm

      Just from how he writes about this stuff now, we all know that he voted strategically and reluctantly.

      1. Is Boehm the guy behind White Mike?

        1. I always suspected ENB, but there are similarities...

          1. Don’t think it is ENB. Where could she find the time to troll between searching tweets for abortion stories and her other job as a sammich artist at Subway?

    5. By Reason's account, the Left is never the aggressors in the Culture War. The racialist principles of CRT inspired pedagogy and biological males being allowed to enter females only spaces and institutions are mainstream concepts that only a backwards radical could object to.

      Sarcasm aside, that was the first time I have seen a Reason writer acknowledge that the sexual assault by allegedly transgender student even happened audit was such an anodyne acknowledgement as Reason has been downplaying such a thing happening.

  23. McAuliffe runs an ad claiming his words were taken out of context regarding parents, then immediately follows it up with an ad showing Trump's "Very fine people comment."

    What a lowlife scumbag.

    1. McAuliffe makes used car dealers look ethical

    2. He was the head of DNC. Scumbaggery is a job requirement.

  24. A better alternative would be to diffuse those fights by offering families more alternatives so that it doesn't matter so much which political tribe controls the public school monopoly.

    I'd settle for a school that can teach the kids basic math and English. I suspect this is why science and math and reading and writing are now decried as "white supremacy", the teachers are incompetent to teach those subjects so they dismiss them as white supremacist. They can't even babysit the kids such that the kids learn to keep their hands to themselves and some basic respect for one another, that's why this too is white supremacy. Self sufficiency, delayed gratification, showing up on time, accomplishing goals? You guessed it - more white supremacy. They're raising feral animals and teaching them to take pride in being a feral animal.

    1. So largely the gop platform. Teach actual basic concepts, not indoctrination.

      My kids go to the hardest charter school on my city. They teach 1 grade ahead. They pass the state HS graduation exam in 8th grade, etc. The school has many immigrant families who want the best for their kids. They stick to math, science, English, etc.

      Yet assholes like biden and dem governors want to require victim studies to graduate. It is insane.

      1. But good for party indoctrination.

    2. Except their are large portions of the Left that do not school choice precisely because they do not want any child to escape their dominance of the schools as an institution. Reason is offering a compromise solution that one side finds unacceptable and is not acknowledging that intractable issue.

  25. Here in Pittsburgh, the Republican Mayoral candidate (Tony Moreno) will almost certainly receive a higher percentage of votes in next week's election than any GOP candidate has received in 75 years, and it's possible that Moreno could shock everyone by winning (becoming the first Republican Mayor since 1934).

    Moreno is a retired white City police officer whose key campaign issue is public safety, while the Democrat Ed Gainey is a longtime black State legislator who supports Black Lives Matter and who has worked (as a legislator) to further increase taxpayer spending for more entitlement programs for blacks.

    1. As you describe the candidates, I fear the outcome will come down to simple demographics.

    2. It is interesting that you describe a tight race but suggest that the Democrat will win. It is very much like the Virginia race where the Terry McAuliffe has lead in the polls all along. Like California and horseshoes close doesn't count. I am not sure if these races are really toss-ups or if the media needs a story?

      1. It no longer matters what the polls say, it only matters who counts the "votes".

      2. The va polls that have consistently been +3-5 off from every election always in favor of D? That's why being tied is a warning sign. And why dem heavy counties are trying to violate state election laws again.

      3. Close does count in horseshoes.

  26. "A better alternative would be to diffuse those fights by offering families more alternatives"

    Trick question: who could possibly be opposed to that?

    1. The American Left are so opposed to people having choices that they're starting to make Pol Pot look like a bleeding-heart liberal.

    2. The President Eric voted for.

    3. see teachers' unions

  27. Prediction:
    Many fewer house cleaners in San Fran:

    "S.F. could be first to mandate paid sick leave for house cleaners, nannies"
    [...]
    "Mirna Arana was pregnant and didn’t feel well.
    But if she didn’t clean houses, she wouldn’t get paid. So she went to work. She kept cleaning even as cramps racked her body. Then she began to bleed and eventually miscarried..."
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/S-F-could-be-first-to-mandate-paid-sick-leave-16563357.php

    Question: Is that just a turd-quality lie, or did they send people out searching for the last 6 months to find that woman?

  28. In Virginia, we're talking about legions of government bureaucrats failing to go to the polls to vote against government bureaucracy. Race, sex, income, religiosity, etc.--all that shit goes out the window when you become dependent on government employment to make your house payment. How could such a state, dominated by government employees, be misconstrued as representative of the nation?

    1. But D.C. should definitely be a state.

  29. "The protests in Fairfax County were organized by parents who objected to the county's high school including Toni Morrison's Beloved on a reading list for seniors."

    Yup, that was the ONLY problem the parents had. That one book and, literally, nothing else.

    1. “The protests in Fairfax County were organized by parents who objected to the county’s high school including Toni Morrison’s Beloved on a reading list for seniors.”

      And why would that matter anyway?

      Is there something wrong with parents objecting to their children's reading list?

      Are we supposed to be contemptuous of parents for wanting to influence their children's reading list?

      Would it be contemplable for parents to insist on including Toni Morrison in their children's' reading list, too--or is that different for some reason?

      1. So where do you draw the line?

        One parent objects to Toni Morrison's book, so it is removed from the reading list.
        Another parent objects to Huckleberry Finn, because it is full of n-bombs, so it is removed from the reading list.
        Another parent objects to all of Shakespeare because it represents the "white patriarchy" or somesuch, so it is removed from the reading list.
        Another parent objects to something else for some other reason.

        At the end of the day, all you have left is a bland banal reading list that teaches nothing. What is the point?

        Do we want students who are critical thinkers, or not? Then they have to have material that challenges them and makes them think. Even if some parents can't appreciate the pedagogical value of that.

        If we keep going down this populist road, we will have a curriculum that pleases no one and teaches nothing.

        1. And when do we challenge them with Mein Kampf?

        2. How's about we leave it up to the parents in the local area? Surely you can admit that government dictate is never the way to go. We all know that this is a hard concept for you to grasp but at least try.

        3. So where do you draw the line?

          What line? The government-mandated must read line? You're practically saying that even if the government makes the decision, it's pointless and arbitrary. Fuck you, cut spending.

        4. I look forward to the book burnings.

        5. The big question on everyone’s mind though: how can we bring up a bear in your trunk that randomly attacks school board members as you drive around town? Because that would be impressive.

        6. Do we want students who are critical thinkers, or not?

          It's pretty amusing watching him try to defend the left with the claim we want critical thinkers. Any port in a storm.

        7. "Do we want students who are critical thinkers, or not? "

          Obviously I want students who are critical thinkers. But if you think that parents sitting down and shutting up while elementary teachers keep on keeping on, you are either deluding yourself or being intentionally disingenuous.

          Nothing about the Common Core curriculum or generally any curriculum up through your Bachelors' degrees encourages Critical Thinking skills. Critical thinking is generally a Masters level study.

          So, absolutely, let's figure out how to get Critical Thinking and other improvements into the curriculum. Until that point, parents need to be included on the decisions of what materials kids will be presented. And that is especially true when we are talking about CRT and sexually explicit content.

          1. Obviously I want students who are critical thinkers.

            Good, so do I. We will not get critical thinkers if we have a bland curriculum of pablum that appeals to the least common denominator.

            And no I don't think the status quo is particularly good either. But we will not get constructive changes to the status quo if the mob feels empowered to have veto power over every little decision that the school makes.

            Nothing about the Common Core curriculum or generally any curriculum up through your Bachelors’ degrees encourages Critical Thinking skills. Critical thinking is generally a Masters level study.

            Oh that's nonsense. There is no reason that critical thinking can't be adopted into the curriculum at any level in an age-appropriate manner.


            So, absolutely, let’s figure out how to get Critical Thinking and other improvements into the curriculum.

            I agree.


            Until that point, parents need to be included on the decisions of what materials kids will be presented. And that is especially true when we are talking about CRT and sexually explicit content.

            Only up to a point. The mob shouldn't have veto power over every decision made in the classroom.

        8. "Do we want students who are critical thinkers, or not?"

          We do not have that NOW as is, in case you have not noticed.

          And hard to have the dumbest people on college campuses as the people who are going to improve that.

          ...and why are you posting such a long post about what the problem with the school board is not.

          The whole "Covering up rapes in girl's bathrooms" issue is a bit more of a cause.

        9. If we keep going down this populist road, we will have a curriculum that pleases no one and teaches nothing.

          You say this like it's a revelation. Like my parents didn't know this going in. Mom and Grandmother were schoolteachers, watching it happen in real time with the same lamentations about teaching pretty much all the humanities and even good chunks of the sciences. Hell, the notion of 'book learning', giving someone an education without actually teaching them anything useful is as old as public education itself. The idea of sending every last kid to public school is itself a populist notion. Your acting like there's some sort of magical line as to what/how to educate is a deflection from your own stupidity on the issue.

    2. I'm sure it was "Beloved" and not "Gender Queer" or "Lawn Boy" that the parents were upset about. And, as you say, literally nothing else.

    3. I love Boehm's counter to the parent's objection, that the book won a Pulizter Prize, as if that is an unimpeachable stamp of quality and intellectual merit. I have no personal knowledge of the book or its contents, but there is little explanation in the article what the parents are objecting to in the book and why it might going overboard.

  30. "Democrats Draw Up Billionaire-Tax Plan to Replace Hike"
    [...]
    "Democratic lawmakers, with President Joe Biden’s support, are drawing up details of a plan to tax billionaires and other ultra-high earners after Senator Kyrsten Sinema’s opposition to raising the rate on corporations sank a key funding component for a multitrillion-dollar social-spending package..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-draw-up-billionaire-tax-plan-to-replace-hike/ar-AAPQEEo?ocid=uxbndlbing

    And if that doesn't stick to the wall, droolin' Joe's got a plan to tax unicorns!

    1. The interesting story, on this, will be to see if the Congressional Progressive Caucus takes orders from Manchin and Sinema laying down. If you'd asked me back in January, I'd have said that Manchin and Sinema were more likely to back down than members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus--and I'm not sure that's changed. They've been threatening to refuse to vote for the infrastructure bill unless the Democrats in the Senate pass the budget reconciliation bill since forever.

      It seems to me that the Biden administration is ignoring the Congressional Progressive Caucus--and their unwillingness to vote for the infrastructure bill--like they ignored the Taliban . . . right up until the Taliban waltzed into Kabul and surrounded the airport. Because Joe Biden didn't want to believe that the Taliban would ignore his plans doesn't mean they wouldn't, and just because Joe Biden doesn't wan to believe the Congressional Progressive Caucus won't fuck up his deals with Manchin and Sinema doesn't mean they won't.

      1. At some point they're going to have to reconcile themselves to either voting for a slightly less bloated spending plan or go back and tell their base that they can't get anything done on...well, anything.

        It's why Jayapal wants to scale everything down rather than cutting anything entirely. There are a lot of interest groups in their coalition that have been encouraged to work to primary anyone who isn't 100% with them and they don't care about the wider ramifications of that stance.

    2. yeah, and the "soak the rich" tax plan (which Sinema is on board with? not likely) would only raise 200 billion over 10 years, or about 10% of the proposed new spending (if it settles around 2 trillion instead of 3.5 trillion).

      There just aren't that many billionaires in the USA, and there will be a lot fewer if some wealth tax like this passes.

  31. Will Biden’s OSHA mandate really happen? It potentially conflicts with the shipping crisis:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/25/businesses-ask-white-house-to-delay-biden-covid-vaccine-mandate-until-after-holidays.html

    “The American Trucking Associations, which will meet with the OMB on Tuesday, warned the administration last week that many drivers will likely quit rather than get vaccinated, further disrupting the national supply chain at time when the industry is already short 80,000 drivers.”

    (Curiously, Ken Shultz raised the possibility that Biden won’t actually follow through with implementing the OSHA mandate, but then dropped talking about that possibility when it didn’t work in his talking points defending Texas governor, Abbott’s, own mandate. Not unusual for Ken to talk out of both sides of his mouth.)

    1. In fact, OSHA still hasn't even issued an order mandating vaccines for large corporations.

      But of course, Democrats, many of those large corporations and left wing media propagandists have (for the past month) deceitfully portrayed Biden's proposed vaccine mandate as a done deal.

      1. I suspect Biden will not issue an order. Many big companies are complying without it. Issuing one will only give the courts something to overturn. Why do it, if you are getting what you want?

    2. It's also entirely possible that Abbott's own anti-mandate is scaring Biden's team away from following through, since that would require the issue to be settled in court where TX has a much more solid legal footing for their order than FedGov is for its own. Plus, even if it was held up the red state governors could universally band against it, provoking a no-bullshit constitutional crisis during a time when the Admin is already suffering from a legitimacy deficit in those regions. Nobody needs that.

      It's better for them to simply act like it's coming and let national corps go through the effort of bringing everyone in line in anticipation of some future order. This isn't really the first time this has happened, either: the "Dear Colleague" letters Obama so famously employed essentially worked on the same principle.

    3. The OSHA mandate shouldn't cover truckers anyway -- they work by themselves in a truck all day. If they need to get out for loading and unloading, they can just wear one of those magic masks.

      1. That’s not how The Science! works.

      2. They spread it during sex at the rest stops. Duh.

        1. Gross point.

      3. Good point.

  32. "You know the type—in fact, there's probably a few of them running your own local school board."

    You mean superior, busybody, elitist cunts? As usual, Mark Twain said it best.

    1. “In the first place God made idiots. This was for practice. Then he made school boards.”

      ― Mark Twain, Following the Equator: A Journey Around the World

  33. For those who missed it last night, here is jeffy engaging in absurdism to conflate being unvaccinated with refusing to quarantine. I find it to be at least as informative as the morning links.

    https://reason.com/podcast/2021/10/25/freedom-responsibility-and-coronavirus-policy/#comment-9176512

    At one point you can actually watch his ego and superego disintegrate in realtime:

    chemjeff radical individualist
    October.25.2021 at 9:03 pm
    Flag Comment Mute User
    Oh oh, here’s another analogy that the Chuckys and the Jesses will love.

    A bear wanders into the Capitol on Jan. 6 and mauls Nancy Pelosi. Are Democrats still evil? Discuss!

    1. He doesn't care if he's right or wrong. He doesn't care if he's rational or irrational. He doesn't care if his arguments are based on fact of his own person feelings. He isn't here to learn anything. He isn't hear to teach us anything. He's only here to distract and disrupt. And under those conditions, the best thing to do with him is hit the mute button.

      1. Jeff really did lose his mind. He realized how fucking dumb his analogy was quickly but kept defending it.

        1. Jesse, your only purpose here is to troll.

          1. That's rich coming from someone in competition with Tony for excellent intellect and banter.

          2. I post more intelligent comment here than you could dream of Jeff. You only think I troll because I call you out. I have conversations with people who are actually honest. That does not include you, mike, brandy, or sarc.

            1. No, Jesse, you have "conversations" with people in your tribe, honest or not (where such "conversations" generally boil down to "look how Team Blue is evil today!"), and you try to sabotage and undermine all other conversations from people you don't like. It is because you are insecure in your own argumentation abilities. It's already quite evident that you are mentally incapable of having a discussion involving abstract ideas or analogies. You don't stand a chance with having a legitimate, open, honest, fair-minded conversation with someone who isn't already in your tribe, so you try not to even permit them to occur. You are out of your league in any conversation that isn't wholly contained within the right-wing bubble and you know it.

              1. The sad thing is that you still think you’re fooling anyone

              2. Again, you lie. I have disagreements here often. I actually engage with Joe Friday and Tony because they are honest of where they are coming from. I even engage with SPB. You are not honest. You lie about your motivations.

                You are doing a lot of projecting in your post by the way.

                1. You lie about your motivations.

                  What are my motivations, Jesse? The ones I state, or the ones you project onto me? Because I'm not lying, you are projecting.

          3. If you're implying that that analogy was anything but lame trolling, that speaks poorly of you.

      2. LOL, you have that saved as a copy and paste?

    2. You haven't muted the stateist?

      1. His bears in trunks covid analogy was hilarious. You have to read it.

      2. Here so you don't have to umute.

        chemjeff radical individualist
        October.25.2021 at 5:38 pm
        Flag Comment Mute User
        Here is a better bear-themed analogy.

        A bear wanders onto your property and sneaks into the trunk of your car. You don’t realize the bear is in your trunk – or maybe you do, but you don’t care – and you drive around town doing your normal errands. Every time you stop, the bear gets out and mauls people, then gets back in your trunk. So, do you have any responsibility for the bear that’s in your trunk?

        1. And reminder. The entire thread jeff kept equating forced mask mandates of even those not sick with knowingly walking around with the virus.

          1. The entire thread jeff kept equating forced mask mandates of even those not sick with knowingly walking around with the virus.

            That is a lie. Which is par for the course for you.

            1. No, that’s what happened. And it was fucking hilarious Lying Jeffy.

            2. The link is above Jeff. People can read what you wrote. Multiple people called you out on it, not just me. How do you lie so openly?

              1. I never equated forced mask mandates with anything. You are just lying.

                1. Jeff, the link is above. Multiple called you out on it. You can deny what you said, but people can read it. Stop being dishonest.

                  1. I never equated forced mask mandates with anything. You are just lying.

          2. jeff, like turd, keeps forgetting which lies he's told. So a day or two later, he returns to claim he didn't post that.
            Again, the dishonesty is just a symptom of abject stupidity.

        2. Whatever he was smoking or drinking when he posted that, I don't want.
          It makes you STUPID!

        3. Completely not unexpectedly, Jesse cannot intelligently have a conversation based on analogy and abstract ideas.

          1. Totally expected; dimwit here thought that WAS an analogy!

          2. You seem a little butthurt.

            1. I am angry that an attempt at a reasonable discussion was yet again disrupted and torpedoed by the right-wing ankle-biters around here.

              1. Cry more.

              2. “an attempt at a reasonable discussion”

                Nothing says reasonable discussion like bears riding around in your trunk.

              3. Your analogy isn't reasonable.

                1. Yes it is. Others thought so. You decided it wasn't, and furthermore, decided that it wasn't permitted.

                  1. "Yes it is..."

                    You stupid pile of shit, it didn't begin to approximate an "analogy"! Fuck off and die.

                  2. Yes, training a bear to hide in a trunk to randomly kill people is just like covid Jeff. It is a stupid premise. It is also against the entirety of the whole masking issue in that they as those without infection to act in a positive manner and commit to an action that adds no benefit to anyone. That is authoritarianism no matter how you splice it.

                    It was an entirely stupid premise. Can't believe you are still defending it. You even rage gave more stupid analogies after Chuck called you on it. Take the L as you always do.

                    1. Lying Jeffy needs Dee and her bear spray from 1/6 to save him from his retarded analogy.

            2. I mean, apparently he has recently had a "bear" in his "trunk" so one can imagine it might have left him a bit sore back there.

              1. Literally lol.

              2. Considering how fucking fat he is, maybe the "analogy" was just a self-insert.

          3. Your ideas weren't intelligent. Why would I engage with them? It was sophistry to hide your support of forcing individuals even sans infection to do what you wish them to do. It is you rationalizing your own anti-libertarian positions.

            1. See there you go. You claim that I am hiding some secret position, based on nothing but your belief that I am some caricature leftie. You won't accept what I actually write and you project your own caricature of me onto me. It is no different than if I or anyone else accuses you of being some generic Trump supporter. Would you rather people accept you for who you are, or do you want everyone else to project their caricatures onto you? That is what you do to me.

              1. You are a caricature. Fuck your “consequences”.

              2. I never claimed it was a secret position of yours. you are very open with it. You occasionally try to hide it after 30 posts of support with a random aside comment, but everyone here knows your position. You want others to protect your health risks. Even though your health risks would be better mitigated by going on a diet. You want others to protect you.

                1. I have never once supported government mask mandates. NOT ONCE. You are simply lying.

                  You want others to protect your health risks.

                  I want others to be courteous and respectful and polite and agreeable towards each other. I don't want a society full of asshole misanthropes who snarl FUCK YOU when asked to do anything courteous. That is what I want. And I have NEVER advocated for government to FORCE people to be courteous or respectful.

                  Somewhere along the way, you have internalized the idea that "requesting that people wear masks in order to be polite" is exactly equivalent to "using government force to mandate everyone wear masks". They are not the same no matter how many times you try to insinuate that they are.

                  At this point you are not just against government force to wear masks, you are against anyone wearing masks at all. Have you adopted the Nardz position that wearing masks is a tool of 'social control' and must be resisted? This is paranoid lunacy.

                2. And that is what you continually do. You ignore what people say and you insert your own opinion into their mouths, and then claim that they are lying when they don't repeat your words to you.

    3. In the spirit of helping a poor, sad man, I think we can better equate the bear and cars analogy to vaccines. Here's mine:

      If a population of bears has been known to hitch rides into town in the back of pickup trucks, usually just to knock over some cans and root through garbage but occasionally mauling old ladies, is it a violation of the NAP to not install a cap/cover on your cargo bed?

      1. Oh, I am sure Jesse will be along shortly to tell you that your analogy isn't about vaccines, that bears in pickup trucks is stupid, and you are in favor of forced mandatory vaccination of babies.

        1. No, I'll be around to tell you he is making fun of you. Are you that dense?

        2. “that bears in pickup trucks is stupid,”

          Certainly not as stupid as bears in trunks.

      2. But yes that is closer to the idea I was trying to get across. No it's not about vaccines specifically but it is about the general idea about what constitutes negligent behavior on the part of the individual as far as public health is concerned.

        If we are going to take a strict libertarian approach to public health, in which every decision is left up to the individual, then we must have a serious discussion about the consequences that the individual must face for the choices he/she makes that leads to harm done to others.

        1. So how does ME not being vaccinated (we'll ignore that I am vaxxed for the moment) impact your vaccination status?

          If I do not bring an umbrella and you do and it rains, do you still get wet because your umbrella cannot work without me having one as well?

      3. Do you note the lack of comments from the usual ankle-biters around here to your query? It's as if they are not interested in policy or abstract ideas, only in trolling and bashing Team Blue.

        1. No Jeff, they are just letting you have your “serious discussion about the consequences that the individual must face….” all to yourself.

          What more needs to be said? Fuck you. That’s about it.

      4. My first impression is that this is actually a pretty good adjustment to Jeff's original analogy. I am still mentally working through the permutations on this, but it may even be a better parallel than my bear/fence analogy.

        This analogy lets me ask what I think is an interesting question: Is it immoral for someone with a bear in the bed of their truck to drive to animal control to get help knowing that the bear can end up mauling someone at animal control or even someone along the way?

        1. Except there is a difference between modifying your pickup truck and being forced to take an experimental medication or losing your job if you don't.

          1. The analogy was more discussing the possibility of violating libertarian principles by not taking the vaccine. Not necessarily addressing being compelled to vaccinate although that is the next logical step when you say that no vaccine is an aggression toward others. The Reason Roundtable used a really poor analogy to determine if being unvaccinated was a violation of the NAP, and I wanted to create a stronger analogy to have a better discussion around that. I actually do agree that modifying the pickup truck or, in the case of my analogy, putting up a fence to keep out bears somewhat downplays the possible costs associated with having a bad reaction to the vaccine. I was hoping to create an analogy that paralleled the vaccine/virus discussion reasonably well while also removing the vaccine/virus from the discussion to (for lack of a better phrase) "cleanse the palate" and have a fresh look.

            You can see my original analogy and assessment here: https://reason.com/podcast/2021/10/25/freedom-responsibility-and-coronavirus-policy/#comment-9176424

            1. It is not a violation of the NAP for a naturally ocurring event to occur anymore than it is a violation of the NAP to get into an accident. The NAP doesn't mean the elimination of all negative outcomes in all things. If it does cover that, then the NAP becomes an authoritarian control device.

              That is what Jeff doesn't get. He uses abstract theories of harm to justify and rationalize his authoritarian impulses. So did the Reason discussion on the topic.

              1. The Reason analogy was shockingly bad. I am amazed that nobody inside of Reason started asking questions or poking holes in it. Or maybe someone did, and it was ignored.

                I definitely agree that if you start distorting the NAP enough, you can easily turn it into a weapon to justify complete control. That is why it is extremely important to fully understand what the NAP is and is not. It is also important to know our natural rights. There is a definite creeping of what is considered a right, which leads to the demand of government to expand to "protect" these new rights at the expense of our natural rights.

                1. The NAP breaks down when you go past any intentional or knowing act of harm. Walking around in an environment where bacteria and viruses exist is not that harm. It has to be an act that would be mitigated solely by the action of the individual. Not a naturally occurring harm. Dumping a barrel of chemicals is a knowing action committed by an actor. Breathing and expelling virus/bacteria in ones mouth is not. Those are naturally occurring actions that would even occur in a baby with no self-realization, animals, etc.

                  That is the difference.

                  Those who seek to make it a form of harm such as Jeff does above are merely rationalizing their preferred control impulses.

                  And note how Jeff does not respond to this actual discussion to defend it.

                  1. The NAP breaks down when you go past any intentional or knowing act of harm.

                    Does the concept of negligence not exist in your version of libertopia conservatopia?

                    A violation of the NAP is not just an intentional act of harm, it also must include not doing the very basics to prevent a preventable harm from occurring. If in Libertopia, I open a restaurant and there are filthy tables and undercooked food and generally unsanitary conditions, if a patron gets sick, it should not be a reasonable defense for me to claim "It's your own fault, it's a naturally occurring disease!" I as a restaurant owner who didn't take the most basic steps to prevent transmission of illness bears some responsibility for my negligent behavior. Understand now?

                    1. Jeff. Please answer my question from above. It wasn't necessarily directed at you, but I am curious to see how much we diverge in our thinking on this topic.

                      Is it immoral (or even negligent if you prefer) for someone with a bear in the bed of their truck to drive to animal control to get help knowing that the bear can end up mauling someone at animal control or even someone along the way?

                      Also, I am not trying to set a trap. I am genuinely curious to see a response on this question from someone I don't completely agree with on this topic.

                    2. “Also, I am not trying to set a trap.”

                      Unless…we’re talking BEAR traps.

                      *Dons sunglasses*

        2. The second amendment guaranties Jeff's right to bear trunks.

      5. Or how about this: you take your bear to the bear park where it frolicks with other bears and mauls no one. The next day you discover that your bear has fleas. What are the consequences for the other bear owners at the park that day?

        Discuss.

    4. Oh, look at Chucky, who finally admitted last night that all he really cares about is calling people names. What benefit do you bring to the discussion anyway?

      This applies to you, Chucky:

      He doesn’t care if he’s right or wrong. He doesn’t care if he’s rational or irrational. He doesn’t care if his arguments are based on fact of his own person feelings. He isn’t here to learn anything. He isn’t hear to teach us anything. He’s only here to distract and disrupt. And under those conditions, the best thing to do with him is hit the mute button.

      1. who finally admitted last night that all he really cares about is calling people names

        Read back through the thread, jeffy. Only one of us refused to answer direct questions and it was not me. You had to take one sentence out of context of multiple back and forth posts for your claimed "admission".

        I ridicule those who refuse to engage in honest discourse. You could avoid it by not being in that group.

    5. And by the way. The point of my little comment there is that you, and Jesse, and ML, and a host of others, only care about the conversations in which Team Blue is the villain. That's it. Discussion of ideas in the abstract, discussion of principles and policies - if Team Blue isn't the villain, then it's pointless as far as you all are concerned. You really just want the dopamine rush associated with Two Minutes of Hate against Team Blue. It's sad really that tribal wars have rotted your brains so thoroughly.

      1. Fuck off jeff; no one cares about your whining.

      2. Dude, no one is responding to you because they have you muted. You need to stop arguing with yourself.

      3. Man, you are more of a victim than even sarcasmic.

      4. The point of my little comment there is that you, and Jesse, and ML, and a host of others, only care about the conversations in which Team Blue is the villain. That’s it.

        It's revealing he characterizes this as a problem since the same thing is true of himself and Team Red. Even when the Dem Governor accidentally reveals his desire to control children against the wishes of their parents his only concern is changing the subject to attack Team Red and protect McAuliffe. This is what political operatives do.

        1. Difficulty... I've called Jeff out since before Trump. he has always been a sophist. He has always denied being on Team D despite obviousness of it. He often projects his own actions onto others.

      5. The point of my little comment there is that you, and Jesse, and ML, and a host of others, only care about the conversations in which Team Blue is the villain.

        The point is on top of your head. It is not my fault Team Blue are villains. I have also criticized Team Red since day one. You don't observe it because you are too busy apologizing for the other side while claiming neutrality.

      6. I don’t care about either team, Jeff. Fuck your “consequences”, you authoritarian asshole.

  34. Not one of the 50+ legal firms that assisted Gitmo terrorists have helped any of those charged with ties to January 6.
    https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/26/law-firms-that-raced-to-defend-terrorists-in-gitmo-leave-j6-defendants-out-to-dry/

    1. Lol, I guess it's because they're Republican terrorists.

    2. Lawyers who defend the wrong clients now get reported to their state bar for ethics violations.

      Those clients aren't entitled to a vigorous defense.

    3. Probably the same reason the Harvard law professor that got praise for defending the Boston bombers got fired for defending Harvey weinstine

      1. See idiot strazel’s post above.

  35. "I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach."

    Off-the-cuff statements reveal how people really think.

    Had the press reached out to his campaign about this before the debate, his campaign would have released a statement saying, "We of course value the opinions of parents in the continuous, ongoing debate on what schools teach, and we trust the leadership of our schools to fulfill their responsibilities in ensuring a quality education for our children."

  36. FOX NEWS ALERT! SHIT YER PANTS BOYS! THEYS GOT QR CODES!

    Migrant caravan containing thousands travels through Mexico toward US border: 'Tell Biden we are coming'

    The massive migrant caravan traveling through Mexico was organized via QR code

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/migrant-caravan-travels-mexico-towards-us-border-tell-biden

    1. LOL

      At least when we left-libertarians shit our pants, it's for a good reason. Like the 9 / 18 SECOND INSURRECTION BY RIGHTWING EXTREMISTS you warned me about 5 days in advance. That gave me plenty of time to stock up on nonperishable food items so I could afford not to leave home all day.

      #9/18WasWorseThan9/11
      #ButtplugHasTheBestIntel

      1. "stock up on nonperishable food items so I could afford not to leave home all day"

        *applause*

    2. turd lies. It's all turd does. If something in a trurd post is not a lie, it's a mistake on turd's part.
      turd is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lie he's been called on and equally unaware that everyone else knows he's a fucking lying piece of lefty shit.
      turd lies; it's what he does.

  37. but banning books is always an extreme overreaction

    Did they actually ban the book or or are you creating a red herring and ceding McCauliffe's point so that you can cry 'both sides' here Boehm?

    1. The latter.

    2. There's your analogy:
      Do you
      A) burn the book
      B) mandate students read it to graduate
      C) take it off the mandated reading list but leave it in the library

    3. Pretty telling that this “libertarian” doesn’t see the difference between not wanting a book on a required reading list for students at a government school, and burning that book.

  38. Virginia's Gubernatorial Election Has Become a Referendum on Public Schools

    EVERY gubernatorial election should be a referendum on public schools.

  39. Tucker Carlson highlights Ray Epps (sp) repeatedly urging protesters to go to the Capitol on Jan 6 (including the day before), but DOJ hasn't filed any charges against him.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTsBUxeCSP8 (starts at 18:18)

    Anyone have more info on Ray Epps (sp)?

    1. On Sept 25, Tucker Carlson exposed that many front line protesters at the Capitol on Jan 6 haven't been charged with any crimes (and inquired if they work for the FBI/DOJ)
      https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/tucker-carlson-tonight-on-biden-late-night-hosts

      1. Tucker asks more key questions about those who broke into the Capitol on Jan 6, who encouraged protesters to break into the Capitol and the Capitol Police who let them in.
        https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-media-insurrection

        Seems like the FBI orchestrated the entire fiasco on Jan 6, likely due to orders by Pelosi and corrupt left wing swamp rats at FBI/DOJ.

          1. Thanks for the link to Revolver's very detailed article.

        1. Tucker Carlson, is that you?

          1. With the goings-on in the MI kidnapping case, it's difficult to put it past them.

            Abolish the FBI should become a rallying cry for the right, and the left if they had principles.

            1. Lying Jeffy doesn’t care about the FBI involvement in the Whitmer case either.

          2. Lying Jeffy is afraid to read Jerryskids link, and calls Bill Tucker Carlson.

            But he’s not a troll, he’s just here for honest discussion.

  40. complain about the teaching of "critical race theory"

    why is Critical Race Theory in quotes here?

    1. Because, like "antifa" it's just an idea. An abstract, amalgamated group of conspiracies cobbled together by right wing nutjobs completely unrelated to Ibrim X's Critical Race Theory.

      Seriously, it wouldn't be the first time Boehm has written "both theories" into the same story like that.

  41. If Youngkin wins, or even if he loses narrowly, you can expect a doubling-down on culture wars everywhere.

    Please. It's the woke left who are persecuting the culture war.

  42. If Youngkin wins, or even if he loses narrowly, you can expect a doubling-down on culture wars everywhere.

    Boehm - Please elaborate on how covering up multiple sexual assaults by the same trans kid, lying to the public about it while pushing some highly divisive cultural war shit, then beating the shit out of the victim's parent and having him arrested and sent to jail, how is that "culture wars"?

    I guess you're just parroting talking points from Obama these days?

    1. They're now saying he isn't trans. Just a male student. The dad's still an anti-trans bigot with a slutty daughter who isn't worthy of #metoo #believeallvictims.

      It's ridiculous the pretzels everyone is turning themselves into over the trans issues. Yet it's only Republicans who think culture war issues are political winners.

      1. "They’re now saying he isn’t trans. Just a male student. "

        What they do not realize is that they are proving the case people like me made for a while now.

        You have a boy in the girls' bathroom. Bad shit will go down. And the school district is liable for it. Not as much as the boy, but liable nonetheless.

    2. "A teen testified she met a classmate for consensual sex in the girls’ bathroom of a Loudoun County high school before, but in a May encounter she was sexually assaulted. New details in the case at the center of a firestorm"

      https://twitter.com/jjouvenal/status/1452809719534469127?s=20

      They're also saying she asked for it.

      1. I have to hand it to WaPo. Every time I think they have reached rock bottom, they show me there are new depths to pursue.

        1. This is really just something else, even for WaPo.

          I read the actual article and it's not as bad as the tweet (It's still pretty victim-blamey, but not as flagrant as the tweet). So this piece of shit wrote this tweet to get clicks.

          These people have no soul.

          1. These people have no soul.

            The WaPo ran for weeks with an unverifiable accusation specifically timed to torpedo a SCOTUS nomination as credible. It has been proven this girl was sodomized orally and anally in a school bathroom and they question the political timing.

            I can't even...

            1. This girl was brutalized in a school bathroom. It sickens me to think of what happened to her.

              But it's very important to make sure everyone knows she already had sex with the boy twice before.

              They. Are. Disgusting.

        2. "Hey Bob! We need another hose extension for the jack hammer!"

      2. "Slut shaming" an underage female rape victim. Even if the anecdote was true AND relevant...so fucking what? Women cannot choose to have sex with some people and not others?

        Tell me more about the norms Trump was destroying, Reason.

  43. I really wish you guys would not put such substantial content in your roundups.

    Often enough I want to share the headline article with friends who aren't exactly on the same page, but the rest of the roundup would turn them off.

    1. seek less uptight friends?

  44. All the hoopla over the so-called "Facebook Papers" is a big nothingburger, writes Reason's Robby Soave.

    Reason blogs and links its own article from a couple of inches away on the same page? Seems weirdly self-referential.

    1. Odd they are promoting their own content? That’s the purpose of the morning roundup.

      1. Huh. I thought it was for the comments comedy.

    2. Bailey does it all of the time. 99% of his references are articles he wrote prior with out any link to source material.

  45. Your latest reminder that war with China would be a disaster.

    There's a difference between warmongering and countering what the Chinese, now with "Russian Interference" also, are doing in East Asia.

    1. Dammit, I thought we were at war with Eurasia. I am getting rounded up for sure.

  46. After new cases of covid in Israel declined by 92% in the past six weeks, the Times of Israel ran an article claiming covid cases are likely to increase (due to those who are unvaccinated and those who haven't gotten a booster vaccine).
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/with-1-75-million-unvaxxed-or-not-boosted-israel-risks-dropping-ball-expert/

    Seems like the media propagandists refuse to acknowledge any good news, and insist upon gloom and doom stories that misrepresent reality.

    1. the whole country was about 97% vaccinated against the wuhan lab virus before the latest surge of cases. so what gives?

      1. Those last 3% must learn to obey.

  47. Since we're reposting gems from last night, here's another one:

    https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2021/10/05/katy-isd-pulls-books-cancels-authors-visit-after-parents-petition-claiming-subject-matter-teaches-critical-race-theory/

    Katy Independent School District said they have “temporarily” removed books by an award-winning children’s author from their library shelves after an outcry from parents claiming the subject matter promotes critical race theory.

    Jerry Craft is the writer and illustrator of “New Kid” and its sequel “Class Act”.

    He is the winner of the 2020 Newberry Medal, the Coretta Scott King Author Award, and the Kirkus Prize.

    Craft’s website describes the books, which feature young Black boys, as an “honest graphic novel about starting over at a new school where diversity is low and the struggle to fit in is real” and as a laugh-out-loud funny, powerful and important story about being one of the few kids of color in a prestigious private school”.

    A flyer sent out at the start of the school year touted Craft’s Oct. 4 virtual visit with 3rd through 5th graders at Roosevelt Alexander Elementary school.

    An amended flyer sent to parents Friday said parents and guardians could opt their students out of the visit.

    A district spokeswoman told KPRC 2 as of Monday, 30 parents had opted out.

    But that option came just as a now-deleted petition on Change.org began circulating calling on the district to cancel the virtual visit and ban the books.

    “It is inappropriate instructional material,” said parent Bonnie Anderson, a former candidate for Katy ISD school board and a party in a lawsuit against the district’s mask mandate.

    Anderson says the petition garnered 500 signatures before she says it was taken down for violating the Change.org community guidelines.

    “They are pointed at white children displaying microaggressions to children of color. The books don’t come out and say, ‘we want white children to feel like oppressors’, but that is absolutely what they will do,” Anderson said.

    This is the poisoned fruit of the "anti-CRT" crusade of the right. This episode has nothing to do with “teaching CRT as fact”. It was a completely OPTIONAL book author visit to a classroom. But even that was too much. The parents got the books banned from the school library. The books had nothing to do with CRT. It was the paranoid fear from these reactionary parents who don’t want to hear anything about the struggles that students of color might feel in fitting in with a different neighborhood. They want schools to teach THEIR NARRATIVE, which is: Any problems that people of color have, it is their burden to carry. White people are not to blame, they are not even to be bothered, and they will not tolerate anything else. Any suggestion to the contrary is OMG CRITICAL RACE THEORY and will be banned. That is the indoctrination that Team Red wants in schools.

    1. For a couple weeks there I was worried you had abandoned your "anti-anti-CRT" advocacy. I'm glad to see I was wrong.

      #RadicalIndividualistsForRacialCollectivism

      1. Let's fix that, shall we?

        #RadicalIndividualistsForTeachingCriticalThinking

        1. LOL

          Suuuuuuuuure, that's exactly what we anti-anti-CRT left-libertarians want. 😉

          1. Well, you are not a radical individualist. You're a troll-bot, so my point stands.

            1. The only point you have is on top of your head.

              1. And occasionally in his mouth.

        2. #RadicalIndividualistsForTeachingCriticalThinking

          Here's where chemjeff tries to be tricky and conflate the Critical Theory he's been advocating all over the comments - with Critical Thinking, a very, very different concept.
          Jeff's Critical Theory is in fact antithetical to critical thinking as it's emotional rather than logic based.

          He's hoping we won't notice the difference because they both contain "Critical".
          What a weasel.

    2. >>But even that was too much.

      yes. parents have control over what goes in their kids' brains. these ones exercised it.

      1. So, schools should not teach anything that parents disagree with?

        1. lolwut? you may have the general structure of schools upside-down

        2. And refund their tax money too.

          1. What is the goal here? For kids to get an education? Or for kids to become clones of their parents?

            Even with fully privatized schools, you will have school curricula with elements that not every parent is going to agree with, and that is fine provided it serves the broader goal of a liberal (small-l) education.

            1. Look man, if you want to live in a communist utopia, then gather up the rest of your smelly friends and go start one. Leave the rest of us alone.

              1. Funny.

              2. If it wasn't for the socialist utopia of Venezuela people may have never tried an endangered species kabob from the zoo

            2. you will have school curricula with elements that not every parent is going to agree with

              The only way I could see that happening is the school teaching opinion. You can't disagree with reading, riting and rithmetic.

              1. No, it can happen with, say, schools teaching Huckleberry Finn in literature class, or schools teaching about certain pieces of art in art class.

                And even with "reading, riting, and rithmetic", what about teaching cursive? Yes or no? What about teaching "new math"? Yes or no? Should parents have veto power over every single curricular choice?

                1. in our universe parents can educate their own children. yours?

                  1. Not everyone can homeschool, for a variety of reasons.

                    1. of course not. but also they chose children over their lives and should act accordingly

                    2. I'm not sure what you mean by that. Seems like a judgy statement that puts down parents who don't live up to your personal expectations.

                    3. yeah I'm judgy lol. jeff was putting up ridiculous parameters and ceding all children to the state. my point is there are options. for everyone.

                    4. The options are based upon time and money that not everyone has.

                      I do agree that jeff is being slightly ridiculous.

                2. "what about teaching cursive? Yes or no?"

                  Interesting you say that. They don't teach that at my daughter's school, which means she literally can't read handwriting that isn't printed. I'm trying to teach her myself but I have to get her interested first.

                  I guess I see your point. Huck Finn because of that bad word, but someone's gotta be a fucking moron to not see that the word was used to mock its usage.

                  I was thinking more about history and science which, thanks to being highly politicized, have become more opinion than fact. Things like the 1619 Project and AGW.

              2. "Johnny has ten shares of stock. Bobby has none. If Johnny is forced to give 4 shares to Bobby, in order to achieve equity, how many shares will Johnny still have?"

                1. He doesn’t have to give up 4 shares. He has to give up 6.
                  Do you even equity, bro?

              3. The bottom line is that if schools are going to do their jobs and actually EDUCATE students, they are going to necessarily piss off some parents who are upset that education is not the same as turning kids into parental clones.

                If we want schools to turn kids into parental clones, then let's change the name from "school" to "day care center" and be done with it. But, if we want schools to actually educate kids, then parents need to be at arm's length away from the minutiae of the curriculum and trust teachers at least to some extent to be the professionals that they were trained to be. That doesn't mean parents have NO voice, but it does mean that parents can't veto every single decision in the classroom.

                1. Where do you draw the line between teaching fact and opinion?

                2. "they are going to necessarily piss off some parents who are upset that education is not the same as turning kids into parental clones."

                  Here's where chemjeff is lying and trying to trick us into thinking that parents are objecting to their kids being taught math, chemistry, grammar, creative writing, biology, algebra, history, geography, and political science.

                  No fucking parent anywhere objects to that and chemjeff knows it.
                  He knows that the only real parental objections are to indoctrination to postmodernist thought, critical theory, gender studies, scientific racism and 2SLGBTQ+Q ideologies.

                  Of course because he'd sound retarded arguing for that, he tries to misrepresent the parents objections as being to the fucking Times Tables.

                  Does anyone here still doubt that he's a fifty-center?

                  1. I don’t think he gets paid that much.

                3. So if a school system teaches creationism, that abortion is murder, that there are only two sexes, that individuals have the right to own a gun, that the U.S. is actually a somewhat decent country, etc. you think "progressive" parents shouldn't object?

                  Or is it just that you figure those things will never happen anymore, your ox will never be gored, so let's lock this stuff down now? Hell, I guess we don't need elected school boards anymore, do we?

                4. That doesn’t mean parents have NO voice, but it does mean that parents can’t veto every single decision in the classroom.

                  This is, of course, not at issue. It's today's strawman from an increasingly desperate and incoherent activist.

                  1. If you include a personal jibe in your comments you save yourself from having a debate about ideas and instead make everything about the person. Great avoidance strategy! It's why I've got a half a dozen assholes on mute.

                    1. That's a fun comment from someone whose only purpose here is insulting other commenters. I guess you got the WAPO message you're supposed to pivot from openly ridiculing those you hate to pretending respect and civility are values you support as if you didn't spend the last four years insulting everyone else. I commend your ability to turn on a dime, although a more honest person might skip this one.

                      Civility bullshit.

                    2. I don't insult people. I creatively disagree. You see, there is a difference between disagreeing with what someone says and insulting them as a person. Unfortunately lots of people can't tell the difference. So when I poke fun at something they said, their response is to say I rape my child. And then they smugly sit back and declare victory, while I quietly put them on permamute.

                    3. You see, there is a difference between disagreeing with what someone says and insulting them as a person.

                      While this is true it is stupidly wrong that it accurately describes you or Jeff. You've spent years deriding anyone who disagrees with you as a "Trumpist" and then tarring them with the anti-Trump diatribe of the day. Now you pretend you're not just here to be an asshole because if there's anything better than being an asshole it's preening about your greatness while being an asshole.

                      i>I quietly put them on permamute.

                      As if anyone cares what people who are only here to be assholes have to say.

                  2. And, in fact, parents have every right and obligation to veto ANYTHING they disapprove of.

                    Never forget, on any college campus, the education majors are the dumbest. At my alma mater, even the football players mocked them as idiots.

            3. What is the goal here?

              Not to hurt people or steal their stuff.

              1. Unless they don't have their papers in order. But illegals aren't even people. So never mind that.

                1. I would not usually be super worried about the comfort of somebody breaking onto my property, but you do you.

                  1. Their stuff is in Mexico or Guatemala. Getting them out of the desert and providing them three hots, a cot, and one free pair of underwear a week is only hurting them if you think we should enslave the native population to provide them all with free mansions and healthcare.

    3. get rid of public schools. problem solved. it's the only way to be sure

    4. Thanks for that depressing news bit chem. Here's the author's web page and not exactly subversive or revolutionary. God forbid young black kids have characters they can identify with.

      https://jerrycraft.com/

      1. From your own fucking link, racism, grievance mongering and CRT.

        "nuanced middle grade tale of inequity and microaggressions.”
        School Library Journal (starred review)

        "the convergence of an awkward age (13 to 14) with an awkward age (America’s racial reckoning)…. [Craft] balances his biting sendup of American race relations with poignant family portraits”
        The New York Times Book Review

        "truth-telling tale for our troubled times”
        Kirkus Reviews (starred review)

        “Deftly weaving discussions of race, socioeconomics, colorism, and solidarity into an accessible narrative... all while grappling with the tensions of attending an institution that structurally and culturally neglects students of color.”
        Publishers Weekly (starred review)

        “Award-winning author/illustrator Jerry Craft confronts elitism, microaggression, racism, socioeconomic disparity and white privilege in a familiar setting…”
        Shelf Awareness (starred review)

        "captures the high jinks of middle schoolers and the tensions that come with being a person of color in a traditionally white space.”
        Publishers Weekly (starred review)

        "This school story stands out as a robust, contemporary depiction of a preteen navigating sometimes hostile spaces”
        The Horn Book Magazine

        1. Teaching kids resentment and hate towards other kids who had absolutely nothing to do with historic American race issues and slavery.

    5. Thanks for that depressing news bit chem. Here’s the author’s web page and not exactly subversive or revolutionary. God forbid young black kids have characters they can identify with.

      https://jerrycraft.com/

    6. They want schools to teach THEIR NARRATIVE

      As someone who raised two kids participating in the the public school system, I can definitively say, these parents don't want any narrative taught to their kids. They want propaganda out of the schools.

      Writing, arithmetic, fact based history, and basic science. Anything else should be avoidable through electives.

  48. 'You know the type—in fact, there's probably a few of them running your own local school board.' And here, 50-centing or ranting about how how they are libertarians and will allow others civil liberties, since they know what's best -often with an oral rape fixation.

  49. I'm Irish and come from bootleggers so I don't mind day drinkers but Terry McAuliffe crosses the line of proper decor into sot.

  50. But like all the most memorable political gaffes, McAuliffe's response to this controversy at the debate strikes a chord because it seems to perfectly sum up the candidate.

    Sometimes people slip up and say what they really think. Journalism's job is to give the faithful the best path to explain it away.

  51. Lesbians feel pressured into having sex with trans women over fears of being branded 'transphobic' while those who refuse face death threats, claim activists

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10132311/Some-lesbians-feel-pressured-sex-trans-women-fears-branded-transphobic.html

    I always wondered who had sex with trans people. There we go. Lesbians succumbing to peer pressure.

    1. yes, yes, eat your own, woketards

      1. 'Once again, it's attacking women for something that also applies to men. You're holding lesbians to a different standard than straight or gay men because the question is never asked of them.'

        Yeah, SJW-stuff politics aside, I can't help but think, "You choose to saturate your life with women and feel trapped by all the passive-aggressive bullshit? I feel more sorry for the Dads who wind up with a house full of daughters."

      2. eat your own, woketards

        I see what you did there. 😉

    2. I have been assured lesbians don't go for boys.

      1. There's a.... person working at the local grocery store who'd have a full beard if it didn't shave twice a day, but it appears to act like a woman. I can only assume it tried to turn an X into a Y. But it sometimes makes me wonder, why would someone do that to themselves? How will they ever get laid?

        1. have a nephew most of the way to niece. breaks my heart

          1. That sucks. I dated a lady who's 18yr old daughter was taking steps towards attempting to turn a Y into an X, mainly because of pressure from a best friend who is mental. She can't tell her daughter to not see that friend because that would backfire, but she's not going to encourage her either. Shitty situation all around. So I can somewhat feel for you.

          2. A kid my daughter used to know in high school was transitioning. I gave him (formerly her) a ride home one day, and there were no pictures of this kid prior to the present year. No baby pictures, no collages of all the goofy elementary school pictures... Just current pictures of their daughter as a boy. My heart broke for that poor mom. I can't even imagine that level of emotional tyranny of having all your memories of your kid removed.

            1. I've always thought it weird when people have family photos everywhere. Guess my family wasn't into that, and neither am I.

              But to belike that and then sanitize history like 1984... that's messed up.

              1. We do have family photos, but they are all just phots we took. I’ve never understood families where they all dress up once (or more) a year, sometimes in matching outfits, stand in front of a backdrop at some photographer’s studio. Always seemed like trying to put up a front.

            2. I was instructed by himher any references to the past were not nostalgic but a direct shot at himher because heshe was not permitted to realize the true person heshe was ... or something

              1. I recently watched an old movie with Ellen Page in it. Don't remember which one. At least Page was a woman when the thing was filmed. The credits though have been changed to Elliot Page. Hard Candy I think. Maybe Whip It. Liked them both.

                But retroactively changing the credits seems a bit like revisionist history to me.

              2. And they wonder why people find them so repugnant.

          3. have a nephew most of the way to niece

            Me too. Knowing the background, I fear that the kid is never going to feel comfortable in any skin.

            My sister fried her magnificent brain with acid and pot and I don't think she has any idea how badly her fuckwit stay-at-home husband neglected or abused the boy. These kids despise themselves and will do just about anything to escape being who they are.

          4. It’s a cousin for me. He was diagnosed with schizophrenia when he was a teenager. Been one crazy thing after another his whole life. Now he’s in his 30’s, married (to an also mentally ill woman, that’s also an addict) with two young daughters. Those poor girls never had a chance.

      2. That's because they are transphobes

  52. I recall watching the movie of Beloved, but my recollection is vague.

    Wikipedia says that "Beloved has been banned from five U.S. schools since 2007. Common reasons for censorship include bestiality, infanticide, sex, and violence."

    A book doesn't have to be pornographic to have its appropriateness in the school classroom questioned. If the book has the elements listed (and of course, spoiler alert, it has infanticide), then while I'd be ok with mature teenagers reading it, some parents might disagree and I wouldn't be for forcing it on them.

  53. To be fair, he's not wrong. A lot of people are too stupid to realize it and definitely shouldn't be dictating what is taught.

    Hell, these same people are the ones thinking creationism should be taught. What's next- dictating to the doctor how to practice medicine? Oh wait- we already have the same morons arguing for horse paste.

    1. Shorter Tony: "Teaching unscientific, Godbothering nonsense like creationism, bad. Teaching unscientific, hate-mongering nonsense like scientific racism CRT, good."

    2. Who decides?

    3. What I want to know is, why do democrats who hate Citizens United and desperately want to control what grown adults are allowed to know before an election, suddenly start screaming for the right to teach impressionable children anything anyone wants to?

    4. The Progressive worldview in a nutshell -- we know better than you, and will indoctrinate your kids for you.

    5. “Hell, these same people are the ones thinking creationism should be taught.”

      In northern Virginia? Cite?

    6. Yep not wanting your daughter to be raped at school, and not wanting them taught that being white makes you evil is the same as wanting creationism taught. Are you that stupid?

      1. Ordinarily, I would say he was being dishonest. But in this case, I really do think he is that stupid.

        1. It’s getting so hard to keep track.

    7. And if a school system is teaching creationism? I guess you're arguing that parents should have no say in that either.

    8. raspberrydinners
      October.26.2021 at 1:42 pm
      "To be fair, he’s not wrong. A lot of people are too stupid to realize it and definitely shouldn’t be dictating what is taught..."

      That's called "projection".
      Yes, shitfordinner is entirely too stupid top do much of anything.
      Fuck off and die, asshole.

  54. McAuliffe's gaffe was a huge win for Republicans

    "Save our kids from XXX" is a great talking point.

    'CRT' is not being taught in elementary, middle schools or high schools. However, telling parents that it is, is a great campaign strategy. A lot of parents don't want liberal teachers teaching about slavery, past racism or present racism. It makes them have to explain to their kids that there were racists in the past, are still in the present, and racism is bad. That's an uncomfortable conversation and it makes some parents feel guilty. The conversation doesn't hurt the kids at all or make them feel guilty. I know, because I've had those conversations with my kids.

    1. This smacks of the whole "It's not real. And, anyway, it's a good thing" song and dance. Yes, they're not teaching Dereck Bell, Richard Delgado or Kimberle Crenshaw in K-12. Congratulations, you refuted a point nobody is actually making. What they are teaching is a set of ideas derived from CRT and its underlying assumptions and conclusions. If a grade school teacher was teaching "The Differences and Similarities Between Jews and Rats" for biology, "A History of the Aryan People" for history and "Socialism in the Context of the Nation State" for social studies, people would rightly say he's teaching Nazism. Even if he never mentions it.

      1. https://amp.dailycaller.com/2021/10/25/loudoun-county-parents-sign-nda-form-critical-race-theory-curriculum?__twitter_impression=true

        "Curriculum presentations can only be given in person and parents cannot broadcast, download, photograph, or record 'in any manner whatsoever.'"

        Yup. Sounds completely innocent and above board here. Just teaching the basic facts about slavery and racism.

    2. A lot of parents don’t want liberal teachers teaching about slavery, past racism or present racism. It makes them have to explain to their kids that there were racists in the past, are still in the present, and racism is bad.

      I find the implication that public schools weren't teaching these things until the noble CRT peddlers came along to be a bit odd. I was taught all of those things in my lily-white flyover country school in the '60s and '70s.

      1. Nobody, at any point, has argued that schools should not teach about slavery or racism. Schools teach it now and have for decades.

        This is typical equivocation from the liars on the left. You see them do the same shit in their "debates" on nearly every topic.

      2. "I was taught all of those things in my lily-white flyover country school in the ’60s and ’70s."

        I recall that re *my* public school.

        They wanted us to know that slavery and Jim Crow and race riots were things in history.

        But it was with the attitude that we should definitely avoid that sort of thing in future.

    3. "lot of parents don’t want liberal teachers teaching about slavery, past racism or present racism"

      CRT isn't about slavery or past racism, you lying fuck. It IS racism; and teaches bigotry, segregation and a victim mentality. CRT is the Nazi's and the Klan's horseshit ideas repackaged for the twenty-first century.

      Opposition to teaching actual racism is a billion light years away from educating kids about slavery and racism. But you know that, don't you.

    4. 'CRT' is not being taught

      Correct. It is NOT taught. It is used.

      It is a twisted leftist lens through which EVERYTHING is taught. One designed to foment the glorious socialist revolution. If that means that children must suffer, that races must be pitted against each other, well, it is for the Greater Good.

  55. https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1453021349694279690?s=20

    "The judge in Kyle Rittenhouse's trial says lawyers cannot call the 2 people he killed "victims."

    Rittenhouse killed 2 people and wounded another with an AR-15 style weapon. The judge says "victim" is too "loaded" but will let lawyers call them "rioters, looters or arsonists.'"

    1. When does this judge come up for re-election?

    2. I believe the correct term for them is violent rioting pedofile

    3. Why not "attackers"?

    4. protecting private property is something you expect the govt to do...but when they don't you get a 18 year old trying to do it...failure of govt

  56. Having had two kids go through the local public schools my take is:
    1. Most elementary teachers are not good teachers and probably majored in "education" because it was easy and they didn't know what to do with their lives. Most of what they do is day care. Most of the day is a waste in terms of education. Humans (at least most of them) have an inherent ability to learn to read and write. Math is learned by most people by repetition not drawing pictures.
    2. Creationism: Biology is tought in seventh and tenth grade. How life started or evolved is hardly touched. Teaching evolution (genetic drift, random mutation, natural selection) was about one day of the curriculum. This is an old straw man talking point.
    3. Social Studies/Civics: For the most part its just reguratation of facts. Marxist interpretation of America (CRT) has no place.
    4. Math is hard. It is not racist but hard. Science is hard and not racist

    What about trans and gay issues? Why are these even an issue in public schools? Youngsters going through puberty is a difficult time..they don't need some "consoler" experts pushing their theories on youngsters who are growing up. One's sexual orientation is a personal thing. Having someone pushing a trans agenda to a confused 10 year old is child abuse.

    As for school boards..they are run by PTA moms who get their friends to elect them as a way to signal their popularity and pretty much are over their head when teacher unions and the educational complex takes over...schools should be run by a professional staff that the local town or village mayor should appoint. All teacher unions should be abolished.

    What occurred in Virginia was a crime..the school board and super should be arrested for covering up child abuse to push a radical far left agenda...as for northern VA..thank you Bush..expanding the Federal Govt..did you think those folks who moved to northern VA would ever vote GOP? Cutting the Federal Govt 50% would turn VA back into a good conservative state

    1. I don't see on my smart phone the general comment....so not a reply to Titus.

      Ok....how the hell is the sequel Assault in the Loudoun County school NOT "front page news" on this site???

  57. ***sexual assault**** wow my phone spell checks CORRECTLY spelled "sexual" to sequel.
    Mmmkay

  58. Why do they call it 'public' education? Because calling it compulsory education doesn't sound like it's in any ones best interests, does it?

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