Critical Race Theory

Critical Race Theory Can't Be Banned. It Can Be Exposed, Mocked, and Avoided.

The semantics battle obscures reasonable objections to antiracist diversity seminars.

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Alarm about critical race theory—a previously obscure field of study pioneered by far-left legal scholars and sociologists—has suddenly gripped the political right. This development has forced the right's adversaries on Team Blue to defend a theory that very few people on either side of this increasingly silly debate could accurately define if challenged to do so.

At least Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley was honest. Last week, under intense grilling by House Republicans, he conceded that he would "have to get much smarter on whatever the theory is." Nevertheless, he thought there was certainly a place for it in university classrooms; after all, students of history study communism and fascism, not because those were good ideas, but because it's important to learn why they failed.

"The United States Military Academy is a university," said Milley. "It is important that we train and we understand. I want to understand white rage, and I'm white. And I want to understand it."

In response, the conservative writer J.D. Vance quipped that U.S. generals should read less about "white rage" and more about "not losing wars."

It's a troll-ish response that captures so much of what is wrong with the current public meltdown about critical race theory (CRT): Practically no one agrees on—or even appears to understand—what CRT is and how far it has spread.

So let's just get this out of the way: Critical race theory is the idea that structural racism is embedded in many U.S. institutions. Slavery was the reality when the country was founded, and segregation endured for a century following the Civil War. It would thus be naive to assume that supposedly race-neutral policies are actually race-neutral—there's nothing neutral about America and race. Working from this assumption, adherents of critical race theory tend toward a kind of progressive activism that views post-Enlightenment classical liberalism and its notions of equal opportunity, the prioritization of individual rights over group rights, and colorblindness with hostility.

Since very few people involved in the CRT debate have had much experience with the above definition, nearly everybody who has waded into this controversy is right about some things and wrong about many other things.

Savvier liberals are correct, for instance, that CRT, as defined by the people who actually coined the term, mostly exists in academia, not K-12 classrooms. This means that Republican legislative efforts to protect kids from CRT are actually targeting a wide swath of only semi-related progressive concepts. These bills are almost uniformly heavy-handed, and in some cases represent active threats to freedom of expression in the classroom.

Pennsylvania's anti-CRT bill, for instance, would prohibit university professors from teaching any "racist or sexist concept" or bringing an outside speaker to campus who does the same. Remember when conservatives were outraged about the disinvitation campaigns waged against campus speakers like Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulos? Well, this bill would make disinvitation the law of the land. University bureaucrats would have to scroll through prospective speakers' Twitter feeds, on the hunt for statements that could be read as racist or sexist. (This would obviously not benefit socially conservative speakers, many of whom do, after all, believe that there are differences between men and women and different roles for them in society.)

At the same time, anti-CRT folks on the right are correct that there are a whole host of progressive writers, teachers, and activists who were clearly inspired by critical race theory—a field that does in fact include fairly radical ideas, some of which run contrary to the colorblind liberalism of previous racial equality advocacy. Whether or not these people would admit to being adherents of CRT is almost beside the point.

Included in this mix are two of the least persuasive anti-racism writers: White Fragility author Robin DiAngelo and How to Be Antiracist author Ibram X. Kendi, who are routinely paid thousands of dollars to give short presentations to corporate employees, school administrators, and teachers. Both take wildly flawed approaches; DiAngelo treats racism as a kind of incurable infection, or original sin—John McWhorter accurately accused her of promoting the cultish notion that "you will never succeed in the 'work' she demands of you…it is lifelong, and you will die a racist just as you will die a sinner."

Kendi's big idea is to create a U.S. Department of Antiracism. "The DOA would be responsible for preclearing all local, state and federal public policies to ensure they won't yield racial inequity, monitor those policies, investigate private racist policies when racial inequity surfaces, and monitor public officials for expressions of racist ideas," he wrote. This proposal would necessitate the creation of a vast surveillance state and render the First Amendment moot.

Now that critical race theory is under attack, Kendi has denied being an adherent of it, saying in a statement, "I don't identify as a critical race theorist." MSNBC host Joy Reid used this as a gotcha moment during a segment with Christopher Rufo, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and the foremost anti-CRT activist. But this is semantics: Kendi also told Slate that CRT was "foundational" to his work:

I've certainly been inspired by my critical race theory and critical race theorists, the way in which I've formulated definitions of racism and racist and anti-racism and Antiracist have not only been based on historical sort of evidence, but also Kimberle Crenshaw intersectional theory, which is she's one of the founding and pioneering critical race theorists who in the late 1980s and early 1990s said, you know what, black women aren't just facing racism. They're not just facing sexism. They're facing the intersection of racism and sexism. And it's important for us to understand that. And that's foundational to my work.

The Department of Antiracism is not an idea that comes to us explicitly from CRT literature, but the man who proposed it views CRT as inexorably tied with his antiracism work. It is thus not entirely unfair for conservatives to use CRT as shorthand for the sorts of things to which they object.

The person most responsible for this framing—CRT as the avatar of all dubious race and diversity stuff—is undoubtedly Rufo, whose unmatched zeal for exposing it occasionally makes him sound like the sort of activist he is otherwise criticizing. He tweeted, for instance, "The goal is to have the public read something crazy in the newspaper and immediately think 'critical race theory.' We have decodified the term and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans." That's a fairly straightforward admission that he's not really against CRT; his project is raising the salience of CRT so that people will identify the concept with every other thing they don't like.

This is a project that makes hypocrites out of everyone. Conservatives often take umbrage when progressives redefine words, and progressives counter that language has no fixed meaning. But as Oliver Traldi points out in Arc Digital, the CRT debate has scrambled these usual sides. It is now the right saying that a highly specific word can serve as a stand-in for all sorts of broader ideas, and it is the left saying, no, the right can't do that, only some kind of Critical Race Theory priesthood is qualified to give opinions on what is and isn't CRT. Traldi is quite right that this disagreement is mostly an unhelpful side show. While it's important to be precise—and CRT is not the most precise way to refer to the things that Rufo and Republican legislatures are trying to ban—it's also important to be practical: Words do change, and Rufo has basically succeeded in that project. We could have called this thing intersectionality (my preferred term), or progressive antiracism, or even cultural Marxism (remember that whole debate?), but instead, we're calling it critical race theory. Oh well.

Instead of arguing over what the things they're calling critical race theory ought to be called, people should argue about whether the things they are calling critical race theory are good or bad. On this front, many of the critics of these things make sound arguments. It is true, for instance, that the "aspects of white supremacy" charts concocted by progressive antiracism writers Judith Katz and Tema Okun—which posit that punctuality, individualism, and belief in objectivity are traits associated with whiteness—are junk. Punctuality and whiteness have nothing to do with each other. People who strongly cling to the idea that there is such a thing as whiteness, and that it has to do with punctuality, objectivity, and hard-work, are actually promoting harmful and inaccurate racial stereotypes.

Yet this thinking clearly undergirds the modern antiracist approach to diversity and inclusion training. Here's an example of a Columbia University professor and diversity instructor informing K-12 educators that black students struggle with "dissecting and analyzing things" because Afro-centric epistemology is more context-driven than white epistemology. "This is why education is not working for so many students of color," says the expert.

Recall as well the psychiatrist who delivered a lecture at Yale University's Child Study Center titled "The Psychopathic Problem of the White Mind." The journalist Katie Herzog interviewed the psychiatrist, Aruna Khilanani, for Bari Weiss's newsletter, and it was revelatory. Khilanani is possessed of one of the oddest notions I have ever encountered in my 10 years of critiquing progressive activist tactics and beliefs: She thinks white people refuse to eat bread (?) because they are guilty about their racism and want to starve themselves (??).

Suffice it to say that these are some very weird and unsupported ideas. Are they mandated by critical race theory? No. Do they exist within an increasingly popular strain of diversity and antiracism advocacy and training—training that takes place in schools of education, corporate HR departments, and will increasingly trickle down into the K-12 school system? Yes. If that's what parents are pushing back against when they show up to school board meetings and demand that CRT be banned from the classroom, it's hard to blame them.

None of that means the legislative remedy is the correct one. Jeffrey Sachs notes that many of the anti-CRT bills are clumsily worded, subject to interpretation, and would likely lead to much self-censorship among teachers and students. And again, the problem is not really that CRT is being taught in K-12 classrooms; the problem is that semi-related concepts (a la DiAngelo, Kendi, Okun, and Katz) have made their way into the kind of instruction that K-12 educators are themselves receiving, either in education schools or during diversity seminars. This is a hard issue for the legislature to overcome.

The best solution is twofold. First, foes of critical race theory should spend their time more productively by working to ban racial discrimination in schools. Tinkering with the curriculum is usually a local issue, but states can prohibit race-based hiring and admissions systems. Bar elite public high schools from requiring white and Asian students to score higher on entrance exams, and from segregating students by race. David French is also correct that civil rights law already provides a potential avenue for students to sue school districts that have fostered a racially hostile and discriminatory climate. If the thinking behind "aspects of white supremacy culture" is put into practice in schools, those schools can be sued.

Second, Reason's J.D. Tuccille is completely correct that "the critical race theory debate wouldn't matter if we had more school choice." Families deserve more control over their children's education, and the best way to give it to them is to let students attend whatever school best fits their needs. If parents are concerned that a district is regularly training its teachers to espouse a DiAngelo-esque worldview, the easiest solution is to empower the kids to go elsewhere.

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  1. >>I want to understand white rage, and I’m white

    no, you’re just an idiot. people aren’t colors.

    1. Wow, how helpful! Not!

      Maybe study up on some wisdom instead of just hatefully calling names…

      And this one here from Martin Luther King Jr. is MOST excellent! https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/martin_luther_king_jr_101472 for the shortened version:

      “Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction. So when Jesus says “Love your enemies,” he is setting forth a profound and ultimately inescapable admonition. Have we not come to such an impasse in the modern world that we must love our enemies– or else? The chain reaction of evil–hate begetting hate, wars producing wars–must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.”

      1. helpful is relative. and “idiot” is not hate. and ffs where do you think I get “people aren’t colors” if not from King?

        1. “I’m white”… So you’re gonna fix racism and hatred be totally re-defining common expressions in the English language? “I’m Euro-American” instead is gonna fix ANYTHING? Tell us how, please!?!?

          http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/

          Out-take from there…

          Help Mom with the Dishes, Please!

          Bear with me for a few minutes and this section-heading will make more sense.

          Sometimes we have several ways of putting things (even though the thing described remains the same). Take some important flavors of hedonism, for example: “Wine, women, and song”. Old-time, cultured, almost poetic. “Sex, drugs, and Rock & Roll.” In your face, but humorous to think it is basically the same as the first. “Beer, the Old Lady, and TV.” Again humorous, low-brow, with a twinge of boredom-humor.

          OK, different topic, but again, same thing described in different ways: Old-time high-brow: Ralph Waldo Emerson, “All men plume themselves on the improvement of society, and no man improves.” Modern humorous and ALMOST in-your-face: PJ O’Rourke, “Everybody wants to save the earth; nobody wants to help Mom do the dishes.” Short generic: “Work is love made visible”. Longer version by Khalil Gibran, “Work is love made visible. And if you can’t work with love, but only with distaste, it is better that you should leave your work and sit at the gate of the temple and take alms of the people who work with joy”.

          Old-old-OLD-time religious: “You’ve observed how godless rulers throw their weight around, how quickly a little power goes to their heads. It’s not going to be that way with you. Whoever wants to be great must become a servant. Whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave.” Jesus, Matthew 20

          Comments: I shoe-horned this in here into this web page, because I started out writing about the rampant poo-flinging (about politics) on the internet (forums, chat groups, etc.). This fits right in! And some things never change!

          All the wind-bag self-righteous power pigs imagine themselves passing the perfect laws (and school-teaching rules for another example) in THEIR Holy Images, and all would be perfect! Meanwhile, no one (hardly anyone at least sometimes) is “helping Mom with the dishes”… CRT (“Critical Race Theory”) is a popular culture-politics fighting topic right now (early summer 2021). In this case, working peacefully with, and making friends with, people of other races (religions, political parties, etc.), and teaching all children (whenever you get a chance, and usually by example) to love all of their fellow humans, the trees, the bunny rabbits, and the Earth, and the human future, yada-yada… This is BORING! Akin to washing dishes!

          Well, STOP that self-righteous bickering! Let’s all get off our asses, stop being arrogant know-it-all windbags, and go do some dishes!

          1. I would never describe any person by the color of their skin because skin color is not a descriptor. I can’t fix racism.

            1. My skin is colored red from a sunburn or being scalded, or it is black and blue from a beating. Similarly, some people are born with genetic pre-dispositions to certain skin colors, including “black Africans” who are white albinos! And some people are more racist than others! These are all FACTS! Quibbling about them impresses only shallow people who are easily impressed! And other than that, I don’t see anything good coming from it!

              1. >>I don’t see anything good coming from it

                I enjoy our brief times together.

                1. Likewise! Cheerios! (And other breakfast cereals, lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, fruit bats, and orangutans, etc.)

                  1. I can’t eat lamb and I’m sure as heck not eating a primate.

                    1. Now take a seat…
                      Don’t give a bleat…
                      The monkey meat…
                      …don’t miss a beat!
                      It can’t be beat!
                      So sweet to eat!

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    2. Reminds me of when my wife told me to get in shape.

      I told her she’s an idiot because round is a shape.

      1. exactly.

      2. My wife complained about me working late hours and hanging out with friends. She said she wanted to see more of me so I gained weight.

        1. Good one!

          My wife lost weight, so then I told her I was getting less than I bargained for!

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          2. Did she say “me too”?

    3. Oh, but you are wrong about that as far as the Army is concerned. Color, race, and gender are the most important factor for the modern promotion board. How do you think that fat Lloyd Austin got promoted? He sees institutional racism alright, he was part of it. The fact that they promoted that fat, racist bastard is proof of it.
      Affirmative Action was initially forced upon the military as a testing bed. They started with promotions in the mid 80s, then quickly moved to a propaganda tour when any and all televised material on military networks started pushing it. Then EO classes every year. Then twice a year. Now? Hell, they probably give them weekly. Have you noticed that as of late the commercials that are being produced are always a diverse group? Where do you see that in the US or in the Army? You don’t that often. Unless they are forced together, the groups don’t always mix socially even when they get along fine with one another. Enter any chow hall and it will tell the take. This woke nonsense is only causing a division. They never show a group of “like” individuals together, only mixed groups. That started on the AFRTS network in the military. They tested it there because they knew that they could force it on military members and nobody could say anything about it. That self-hating, civilian murdering scumbag Milly has been sucking the dirty diseased cock of Affirmative Action so long that his mouth is stretched out like a landed bass. “Critical race theory is the idea that structural racism is embedded in many U.S. institutions”. Show us proof or shut your cumdumpster. Meanwhile, I can walk you through any government agency and show you the worthless personnel that are hired under your policies.
      They should make Milley walk through DC tonight unarmed and without an escort. He gets daily briefings and somehow he missed the packs of assholes burning innocent people’s businesses all last year. Milley is a cowardly bitch that has been hiding on the bases too long and needs a dose of the reality in the urban areas of the US.

      1. and here I thought the military put everyone in uniforms so they’d see themselves as uniform.

      2. Once the field grades and GOs/flags made it abundantly clear that all Es were under suspicion w/ the recent stand-down, the leaderships’ ethical right & ability to command was lost. Many Os have bought into the collegiate, hollywood portrayal of the ranks as inferior and untrustworthy -these fucktards are little better than the average shitty hipster douchecanoe, but they command troops.

        1. I had to sit through the inculcatory couched as “training” and suffered in silence. On Armed Forces Radio and Television they have a Lloyd Austin commercial where he talks about the problem of extremism when he was first commissioned and tries to paint it as exclusive to “white” soldiers. Nothing could be further from the truth because back in the ’70s the blacks were the extremists. In both Japan and Korea I did not encounter any “white” only clubs off-post but there was plenty of “black” only clubs and areas. In one case a Brigadier General went into a “black club” in civilian clothing and was told the customers to get out. He returned in uniform with two vehicles filled with MPs and promptly put the club off-limits for 90 days. In Okinawa, there was an area called Four Corners in Koza (now Okinawa City) where you did not go after dark if you were white and valued your health.

          I’m willing to discuss the racial issues but I will not participate in sessions that are lectures declaring that racism the exclusive province of white people.

      3. He is, as Lt. Col. David Hackworth, a veteran of three wars,would label, one of the Perfumed Princes of the Pentagon.
        And that’s exactly what Milley is.

        1. Milley is traitor trash.

    4. The problem with saying you want understand “white rage” is that you are accepting the premises of people with likely toxic ideas and motives from the start.

    5. I want to understand white rage, and I’m white.

      White rage is a product of conservative disillusion that the “old ways” were superior to modernity.

      it began when they were mocked at the Scopes Monkey Trial and has grown with the secular maturity of America. Us secular humanists have won the war of ideas.

      See also “Islamic rage”.

      1. What about pedophile hicklib rage?

      2. See also TDS-addled lefty ignoramus turd.

      3. Spot on. US evangelicals and Islamists are far more alike than either probably wants to hear. They both seek to place themselves at the heart of the state in order to repress any deviation from their orthodoxy. They both exhibit the same range of intolerances. And they are both history’s losers.

    6. He is an idiot. He writes idiotic things. I saw Robby on ‘Gutfedl’ recently. He’s just another beltway idiot at this point. As are most of the east coast ‘journalist’ types.

      “Critical Race Theory Can’t Be Banned.”

      It absolutely can be banned. We can also destroy the marxists that are promoting it too. These people are traitors.

      1. Agreed.
        This is war and you do not allow the enemy to subvert your troops.

      2. It can’t be banned as no-one who wants to ban it even has any clear idea of what it is. Also, it cannot be banned in the USA because the Constitution does not even permit the prohibition of stupid ideas, let alone ones that are correct and testable, like the existence of systematic discrimination. An entire political party exists in the USA due to the constitutionality of stupid ideas, which is why you have two conservative parties: One for people in grey suits and one for the mentally ill.

        As a corollary to the Constitutional nature of its status as an expression of thought, anyone seeking to ban it is actually a traitor in seeking to revoke the freedoms of his fellow citizens.

        One cannot ban the kind of imbecile who calls anyone he doesn’t like “marxists” for the same reason. But we can certainly laught at the ignorant sacks.

    7. I agree with your appraisal of Milley.

      I also agree with your insistence on the relegation of immutable characteristics. Ideology is critical, identity is not.

      I’m still avidly awaiting Coleman Hughes’ book on his case for “colorblindness.”

    8. The assumption that “white rage” is even a thing seems like a lot. This, I think, is the biggest problem with CRT/Critical Social Justice/wokeism/whatever we’re calling it. The presumption that race is a primary factor in every damn thing. I assume there is some reference to Jan 6. And while I’m sure there were some white racists present, I see no reason to assume that the rage displayed had anything to do with whiteness.

  2. The most racist people in the US are those who advocate Critical Race Theory and claim to be antiracists.

    1. ^^^THIS

    2. Absolutely

    3. This.

      “Antiracist diversity” is an oxymoron and whoever penned that sub headline is a moron.

      The banner says “free minds and free markets” the only sort of diversity that should matter is diversity of thought. Antiracism is code for “there will be no diversity of thought.”

    4. > The most racist people in the US are those who advocate Critical Race Theory and claim to be antiracists.

      Leftists always project their crimes onto the Right.

    5. “A rose by any other name would smell as sweet,” wrote Shakespeare. Well, you can call racism ‘anti-racism’ and it still smells like shit, just like if you call fascism ‘anti-fascism,’ it remains just as malodorous.

  3. Critical Race Theory Can’t Be Banned. It Can Be Exposed, Mocked, and Avoided.

    I’m commenting without reading the article.

    I agree with the headline 100%.

    As I’ve stated before, we don’t have laws banning the teaching of various racist philosophies such as naziism or eugenics. Because we know how to deal with those things. We need to “learn” how to deal with CRT.

    1. we can mock it. if Robby does he loses his career. shocked the headline was even approved.

      1. we can mock it [Critical Race Theory].

        Are you planning to mock CRT in the same way that creationists think they are mocking evolution when they facetiously ask, “If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?”

        You have to understand something to mock it effectively. Otherwise, you risk mocking yourself with your ignorance more than you mock your target.

        1. I appear to understand it just fine, considering you and its other defenders here keep trying to handwave those criticisms away.

          1. Was I defending CRT? I don’t recall ever doing so. I have talked about race and discrimination and history around here plenty of times before. But I don’t know enough about CRT itself to criticize it or defend it. I think that this is a big part of what Soave and others have been trying to say. CRT is getting used by some on the right as a label for everything race-related that they don’t like, and some on the left are reflexively defending it because of this. For my part, I don’t care that much about academic theories of race issues anyway. I think it better to focus on the practical challenges of what directly affects people’s lives.

            Why is it that there have to only be two sides to controversial issues? That you assumed that I was defending CRT because of what I said shows a need to pigeonhole me into either “us” or “them”. I can recognize, like Soave, that many of those that are attacking CRT don’t really understand it without that putting me on the side “defending” CRT.

            1. For my part, I don’t care that much about academic theories of race issues anyway. I think it better to focus on the practical challenges of what directly affects people’s lives.

              Then you shouldn’t worry about people criticizing it, rather than indulge in passive-aggressive pejoratives.

              Why is it that there have to only be two sides to controversial issues?

              Quite the strawman you’ve put up there.

              1. Quite the strawman you’ve put up there.

                No strawman at all. You put me into a camp opposite to yours without recognizing what I was really saying.

                And I’m not “worried” about people “criticizing” Critical Race Theory. I am going to call out people that are engaging in hyperbole and worse as they try and make it the latest boogeyman in the culture wars, though. Real problems deserve thoughtful debate rather than to become just another tool in partisan bickering.

                1. No strawman at all. You put me into a camp opposite to yours without recognizing what I was really saying.

                  For someone who’s so hung up on creationists, you’re not really in a position to be scolding anyone on placing others into ideological camps.

                  I am going to call out people that are engaging in hyperbole and worse as they try and make it the latest boogeyman in the culture wars, though. Real problems deserve thoughtful debate rather than to become just another tool in partisan bickering.

                  “It’s not happening; if it’s happening, it’s not a problem; if it’s a problem, there’s worse ones we should be focusing on.” Nothing more than perpetual deflection.

        2. Fuck off, child molester

        3. You make a poor argument, as both are cultishly held beliefs defended by biased and generally ignorant sub-populations. This is true of many of the far rights’, the hard religious right splinter groups’ beliefs, and, a larger proportion of what progressives accept.

          1. You make a poor argument…

            I didn’t make a detailed argument, really, so I’m not sure what you think was so poor about what I said. I was just pointing out that people can be so strongly against some idea that they don’t really understand that they end up making themselves look foolish as they attempt to mock that idea.

            I find that people saying that CRT is all about trying to “indoctrinate” schoolchildren into “hating America” or viewing all white people as racist are venturing into that same territory where creationists dwell. I’ve even seen creationists use that same kind of language about evolution. Evolution is about trying to “indoctrinate” schoolchildren into a “secular” worldview where they would “hate” religion (Christianity, at least) in their minds, which is why they fight against it being taught in schools.

            In the case of creationism, they are actually effective at preventing evolution from being rigorously taught far too often. This recent research shows that while high school biology is usually the largest battleground over creationism/evolution, nearly half of all middle school teachers are: avoiding teaching evolution, giving mixed messages to students about how solid evolution is as a scientific theory, or outright including creationism in their teaching.

            And this is in public schools. For those around here that love school choice, that means a lot of kids getting taxpayer funding to learn about Adam and Eve and Noah’s Ark as science lessons.

    2. I agree 100%. And similar to things like eugenics, it really isn’t that hard to critique (the actual theory/perspective).

    3. How did we deal with the pushback from Nazis and Eugenicists in the Academy, government and corporations?

    4. I read the article (or some of it) and now disagree with the headline.

      I suppose avoided is similar to ignored but still it mostly misses the mark. CRT seems like a whiney, obtuse, abstruse, kind of petty snark that one would expect to find in academia. Presumably the purpose of the R’s in obsessing on it is to prove that, indeed, R’s can be just as whiney, obtuse, abstruse, kind of petty, snarky, AND obsessive. Ha. Gotcha. You get off my lawn! No you get off my lawn! No you get off MY lawn! No YOU get OFF my lawn! Hmph! Ha! hmphhmph! Haha!

      1. Yea, I’m sure parents seeing what was being beaten into their children by teachers totes had nothing to do with it…

        1. I’m curious how CRT is being taught in the public schools that produce functional illiterates. Socialist Realism coloring books? Struggle session puppet shows? Do the kiddos just grunt at whatever bullshit the teacher says?

          1. 6 brainwashing techniques they are using on you right now

            It starts every morning with the chanting jumping jacks. We must control the chant.

          2. You forgot the Drag Queen literacy hour,where obese 300lb. drag queens spread their filth on 5 year olds.
            Aren’t progressives great?

      2. GFY

      3. No, republicans just don’t want kids brainwashed by a bunch of filthy progtards. This is where you get antifa, and Biden voters.

        1. No, republicans just don’t want kids brainwashed by a bunch of filthy progtards.

          Yes, they prefer to do the brainwashing themselves.

          1. At least they don’t hate themselves for being white.

            1. At least they don’t hate themselves for being white.

              I don’t hate myself for being white. I don’t have any “white guilt”. I also have never seen anyone being taught that in the schools I’ve worked at.

              I have seen science teachers, in these public schools, that either avoid teaching evolution in their biology classrooms because they don’t want the controversy of students and parents arguing with them because of things they learn in their churches, or actually cast doubt on the validity of the theory of evolution themselves.

              If you want to worry about students being “indoctrinated” into ideas that are provably false, start with all the anti-evolution BS. That it exists in public schools is not something anyone can refute, because the examples and research is clear that Christian fundamentalists are successful at getting the teaching of evolution watered down, ignored, or even creationism inserted in violation of scientific fact and court precedents.

              1. I also have never seen anyone being taught that in the schools I’ve worked at.

                If it’s not being taught, the left wouldn’t be freaked out by the possibility of it being cancelled.

                If you want to worry about students being “indoctrinated” into ideas that are provably false, start with all the anti-evolution BS.

                Here’s a variation of the “nothing to see here!” deflection–“If you want to be worried about something, worry about (insert liberal shibboleth)!”

                1. If it’s not being taught, the left wouldn’t be freaked out by the possibility of it being cancelled.

                  It isn’t Critical Race Theory that would get “cancelled”, but anything that conservatives might identify as being CRT, even if it isn’t CRT. That is the problem with these bans on teaching CRT. They are broad enough in their wording that it will chill discussion of all kinds of accurate history because some conservative will argue that it is teaching kids to view all white people as racist.

                  Here’s a variation of the “nothing to see here!” deflection–“If you want to be worried about something, worry about (insert liberal shibboleth)!”

                  I wasn’t attempting a deflection at all. I was pointing out the disingenuous nature of the cries of “indoctrination!” that the right is using on this CRT binge they are on. It isn’t that they are standing up for teaching students only facts and critical thinking, but that they don’t like the social, cultural, and political implications of discussions about race and our history.

                  The creationism/evolution battles are a clear example of the political right falling on the wrong side of fact-based reasoning and teaching facts and critical thinking to children. They can’t be so clearly on the side of indoctrination (religious indoctrination trying to disguise and insert itself into science classrooms) on that issue and pretend to be making a principled stand against indoctrinating students more generally.

                  Now, not all Republicans and conservatives are anti-evolution creationists, I get that. But I would be more convinced of the sincerity of the stand against CRT as being a principled stand in favor of accuracy, truth, and reason in education if any of them would also stand up for teaching accurate science. How about you?

                  1. It isn’t Critical Race Theory that would get “cancelled”, but anything that conservatives might identify as being CRT, even if it isn’t CRT.

                    Sounds like you’re placing people into ideological camps again.

                    I wasn’t attempting a deflection at all.

                    LOL–you literally said, “This isn’t the real problem, this is.” That’s deflection, even if you don’t want to admit to it.

                    It isn’t that they are standing up for teaching students only facts and critical thinking, but that they don’t like the social, cultural, and political implications of discussions about race and our history.

                    No, they don’t like political ideologues brainwashing their kids with anti-white animus.

              2. You say so many moronic things. The evolution issue isn’t a real problem. Indoctrinating children to hate themselves and teaching them racial divisions and hatred IS a big problem.

                Basically you’re just going off into the weeds to deflect because you have no real response. Nor could you, as you are probably wrong.

      4. When JFree isn’t arm-waving over some bullshit economic theory, he’s here making a public ass of himself.

      5. You have fallen for the misdirection.

        Actual CRT is an academic circle jerk. It also has little to do with the current debate.

        “Anti Racism” advocates proclaim themselves to be proponents of CRT.. so that is the label used.

        And they are successfully pushing schools, corporations and even the Biden administration to implement profoundly racist policies at every level of American life. This year college admissions became primarily race based. The military is teaching that white people are inherently racist and purging people who disagree. Our schools are assigning students curriculums that have white kids explaining why they are evil and hateful and accepting their innate inferiority.

        Corporations are actively promoting this stuff, hiring people to teach it to their employees.

        “But that isn’t what academics who talk about CRT mean” is completely irrelevant. It is an intentional distraction. One that was completely invented as such in the last few weeks and is openly being pushed as exactly that, some logical canard designed to derail the debate, buying time for the purges to make headway.

        1. Then you oppose the particulars in that particular situation. Not the irrelevant strawman.

          I’m actually convinced the reason this ‘CRT’ framing is being pushed by the R’s is to fear-monger regular people into even talking to other regular people who may disagree with them. To further eliminate direct self-governance (which has been happening for decades now) and further replace it with intermediaries (the R’s in this case) who are apparently the only Leninist/theological vanguard wise enough to figure out how the CCP and Frankfurt School are going to implement a rather-dead Marx’s intention to take over American schools and brainwash the kiddies into killing their kulak parents and stealing their wheat.

          1. I’m actually convinced the reason this ‘CRT’ framing is being pushed by the R’s is to fear-monger regular people into even talking to other regular people who may disagree with them.

            Yes, how dare people criticize a mainstreamed left-wing theory that white people are responsible for everything bad, and that only the destruction of those systems they benefit from can bring about the promised progressive utopia.

            who are apparently the only Leninist/theological vanguard wise enough to figure out how the CCP and Frankfurt School are going to implement a rather-dead Marx’s intention

            “We shouldn’t take leftists at their word.”

            1. how dare people criticize a mainstreamed left-wing theory that white people are responsible for everything bad, and that only the destruction of those systems they benefit from can bring about the promised progressive utopia.

              I’m 100% certain that those words have never been uttered by anyone other than the leader of your ‘Stop CRT Today Or Commies Will Invade’ church.

              You are constructing a strawman.

              If you are scared to hear anything about race, that’s your problem.
              If you are unable to stifle someone else from talking about race, too bad so sad Archie Bunker’s dead.
              If you are unable to discuss race because they are trying to stifle your opinions, then a)take a deep breath and realize they are trying to emulate Archie Bunker not Karl Marx and b)talk about what is actually being said and c)try to avoid talking about irrelevant bullshit (including everything from the radio reception of your tin-foil hat to the CRT plot to brainwash your precious-even-if-mostly-retarded-and-gullible kids)

              See how easy it is to be a regular human?

              1. I’m 100% certain that those words have never been uttered by anyone other than the leader of your ‘Stop CRT Today Or Commies Will Invade’ church.

                It’s called “People’s History of the United States.”

                You are constructing a strawman.

                ::goes on to construct a massive strawman that burned so hot, Buckley Air Force Base’s satellites picked up the heat signature::

                If you are scared to hear anything about race, that’s your problem.

                Funny accusation considering I have Phil Goodstein’s entire oeuvre on Denver history in my personal library, including the ones on Five Points and West Denver which cover a great deal of black and Hispanic history in the city. The “Denver In Our Time” series also covers these events as well. (Goodstein is a card-carrying Marxist, incidentally). “The Contested Plains” by Elliot West, a book I read 20 years ago and also own, covers the struggle between whites and the Cheyenne for control of the Front Range and eastern plains. I’ve read and own “Legacy of Conquest” and “It’s Your Misfortune and None of My Own,” to landmark texts from the New American West scholarship which cover these topics is detail. I also own books covering these discussions in Texas and New Mexico history, such as “Storms Brewed in Other Men’s Worlds” by Elizabeth John, “African American History in New Mexico: Portraits from Five Hundred Years,” by Bruce Glasrud, “New Mexico’s Buffalo Soldiers” by Monroe Lee Billington,
                “Deep in the Heart of San Antonio: Land and Life in South Texas” by Char Miller, and “Exodus from the Alamo: The Anatomy of the Last Stand Myth” by Phillip Thomas Tucker (who makes the case that the revolution was primarily to preserve slavery in Texas). Unlike LeBron James, I’ve actually read “Autobiography of Malcom X” past the first page. I’d go into more, but I have roughly three large bookcases of these texts and going through them would result in a Ken-length post.

                Yes, I’m so scared to discuss race, about half to 3/5 of my personal library contains books covering these subjects. What books discussing race have you read and own? If it’s more than 3/5, you can puff your chest out about how much more willing you are to discuss race than I am.

                And as I’ve mentioned before, I’m Hispanic and brown-skinned. I see race every time I look in the mirror, you pathetic baizuo.

                The rest of your spittle-flecked invective is just the caricature you’re arguing with.

                See how easy it is to be a regular human?

                What would you know about it?

                1. It’s called “People’s History of the United States.”

                  That book has been around for what 40 years? It doesn’t have shit to do with ‘CRT’ – or with some sudden attempt in 2021 to persuade your kids to chop off their dicks in shame at their white privilege and in solidarity with transwhatevers.

                  Or is CRT just the new name for the New Left, secular humanists, moral relativists, Modernists, abolitionists, Satanists – dating right back to the first public school law in the US in the 1630’s? If you want to take sides in the eternal textbook/curriculum wars; then don’t blow smoke up my butt that this is some new threat. You people – on both sides – love this shit-stirring and you always have. You all never want to solve the problem which is why it – is never solved. It CAN be solved – but not by you shit-stirrers.

                  BTW – here is the first law:
                  It being one chief project of that old deluder, Satan, to keep men from the knowledge of the Scriptures, as in former times by keeping them in an unknown tongue, so in these latter times by persuading from the use of tongues, that so that at least the true sense and meaning of the original might be clouded and corrupted with love and false glosses of saint-seeming deceivers; and to the end that learning may not be buried in the grave of our forefathers, in church and commonwealth, the Lord assisting our endeavors.

                  It is therefore ordered that every township in this jurisdiction, after the Lord hath increased them to fifty households shall forthwith appoint one within their town to teach all such children as shall resort to him to write and read, whose wages shall be paid either by the parents or masters of such children, or by the inhabitants in general, by way of supply, as the major part of those that order the prudentials of the town shall appoint; provided those that send their children be not oppressed by paying much more than they can have them taught for in other towns.

                  1. That book has been around for what 40 years? It doesn’t have shit to do with ‘CRT

                    I realize how ill-read and under-educated you are, but most of this stuff is based primarily on the philosophies of cultural Marxists in the 60s such as Marcuse, and the influence they had on the New Left who developed these into Critical Legal Theory and Critical Race Theory in the ensuing decades, as well as the New Social History which is the foundation of Zinn’s entire career.

                    If you want to take sides in the eternal textbook/curriculum wars; then don’t blow smoke up my butt that this is some new threat.

                    I never said it was a new threat; that’s just the caricature you’re arguing with in your head. In fact, I’ve consistently pointed out on this comment board for ten years, whenever the subject of cultural Marxism (which is what CRT is based on) comes up, that the ideological and philosophical foundation for this goes back decades, primarily to the New Left’s takeover of the Democratic Party beginning in the late 60s-to-early 70s. I’ve pointed out, time after time after time, that this whole concept of “white privilege,” was built off of Peggy McIntosh’s essay that came out in 1989, over 30 years ago.

                    It CAN be solved – but not by you shit-stirrers.

                    This from a guy who claimed that engaging in local school district matters was irrelevant and a waste of time. Sounds like the problem you have is that it might not be solved the way YOU think it should be. How solipsistic.

                    1. I realize how ill-read and under-educated you are, but most of this stuff is based primarily on the philosophies of cultural Marxists in the 60s such as Marcuse,

                      Are you accusing me of not attending this weeks Marcuse lecture? Not only did I attend – I deconstructed it and wrote this week’s lecture

                    2. LOL, ill-read coomer incel confirmed.

                2. I have roughly three large bookcases of these texts…And as I’ve mentioned before, I’m Hispanic and brown-skinned. I see race every time I look in the mirror, you pathetic baizuo.

                  Well yeesh. You should have said something. I’ll talk to the local CRT Politburo. Maybe we can get you some of this weeks reparations.

                  1. Thanks for conceding the argument, fuckwad.

              2. Moron, we know what is being said. This is why we want CRT banned. So stopyour raving lies.

    5. Sure it can be banned. But we shouldn’t.

      The problem is whether or not debate is allowed. Some people do not feel comfortable about talking against it in a group setting out of fear that they will be punished because someone said their comments made them feel unsafe.

      1. Your comments make MEEEE feel unsafe… Because they are TOO true!

        (Agree with you about the free-speech angle… The LACK of it in this case!)

    6. WROOONG!
      First, those of us who have been subjected to critical RACIST theory indoctrination had NO choice. It’s REQUIRED by the employer. And at schools, it’s foisted on MINORS who have NO CHOICE either. So yes, BAN IT.
      Second, eugenics racist? Eugenics started in the United States as a PROGRESSIVE movement! It was promoted out in the open. Public meetings were held. It stands for the elimination of genetic DEFECTS by medical procedures. It’s is being carried out TODAY by the manipulation of genes.

      1. No Sharia… Are you perchance related to “My Corona”? Or maybe “My Sharona”?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR2JtsVumFA

        (If the latter… I gotta say… Nice tits! Even if we can’t see them quite ass well ass we’d like to, some of us at least… Speaking for a friend, we are… “We” meaning me and the pistol in my pocket, who is happy to see “My Sharona”…).

        Now what were we talking about?

      2. Any employer who requires CRT indoctrination should immediately be sued.

    7. I agree generally, but Robby leaves out another option – the current status quo: institutional promotion of CRT (and/or its premises) and absolute intolerance for any avoidance, mockery/criticism, or exposure of it.
      If this worst aspects of Communist+Nazi hatechild called CRT wasn’t being forced on individuals and society at large, talk of “banning” it from being imposed on children and within government would be irrelevant because organized defense against it wouldn’t be necessary.
      But it is terribly relevant, as is Reason’s desire to promote, avoid, and/or downplay CRT.

    8. False. Itsbeen banned in TN. They saw this train wreck coming and the TN Legislature took action against teaching racism in school

    9. The article does not follow up on the promise of the headline. The author concedes that CRT and systemic racism is a thing then quibbles over some of the details. Like most Reason articles.

    10. The difference between CRT and Nazism/Eugenics is that Nazism/eugenics are not being taught as a model of good behavior by the public education system. Sure, you can talk about and even praise those two things but I doubt you’d ever be able to do so on the taxpayer dime. CRT (I guess I’m using the term in the broad sense because it’s a matter of semantic debate) by contrast is being embraced by public institutions including schools and the military. Further, if you try to get all your coworkers to hear a lecture on the virtues of Nazism, you probably get fired for creating a hostile work environment and advocating a racially discriminatory ideology. You do the same scenario with CRT in the workplace, even though it is an ideology that promotes racial discrimination and targets people by their race as oppressors, you’re not likely going to see the same EEO and hostile work environment complaints. I’m fact, HR will probably praise you for promoting CRT.

      Now, it would be useful in the realm of general public debate to understand CRT and it’s flaws and learn how to argue against them, as your comment suggests. But where CRT touches the realm of the public and taxpayer funded institutions, it’s not unreasonable to tap the breaks and it’s not surprising people are doing so with legislation first and foremost.

      Reason is right in it’s conclusion that the best solution is school choice, but I’m considering the realpolitik and strategy by which that policy is implemented. Do we try to skip straight to school choice or is it more viable in the long run to heavily document a string of abuses and grievances with the public schooling system so that the public will start to see the viability of school choice as a solution and the courts won’t try to overturn the laws on some spurious grounds like that there is no logical basis to not like the public education that the government has so kindly gifted us from our own funds.

    11. The headline is a lie. Nobody is ‘banning’ CRT, States and municipalities are preventing the inculcation of CRT, or related principles.

      Because they are racist and anathema to a free society.

  4. Want to instead read an article on the same issue from a scholar who actually thought it out? Here you go :

    https://quillette.com/2021/06/27/the-bias-narrative-versus-the-development-narrative-thinking-about-persistent-racial-inequality-in-the-united-states/

    This is actual intelligent, thoughtful writing on the subject

    1. Guy probably can’t clear his throat in less than two paragraphs, but it’s worth the read.
      The explanation of the lack of “equality” as a result of adjusting criteria is a long ways south in the article, but not to be missed

  5. Robbie channels Cathy Young to defend CRT.

    1. Protecting the narrative is mission critical.

  6. #1. Vote out radical school board members. Most people don’t bother to vote in local elections unless they coincide with the Presidential or Congressional election, which they usually do not. But believe me the radicals, their teachers and school administrators are not missing a vote. Attend local school board meetings in large groups and shut these people down before they can even get started. Your kids are depending on you.

    1. Sane people have to run. In our last election, we voted on our school board members and there were 3 candidates. Two wokeys and a wine / soccer mom. Our instructions were to vote for two of the three. I went with the wine mom, and only voted for one candidate. She won and one of the progs won, but at least it wasn’t 2 total leftists.

    2. Back in the old days, ‘school boards’ did not have the power over 100+ schools in the district. They had governing power over ONE school. Which meant the only school board you were interested in was the one your kid was attending. Back then (roughly just before WW2/suburbs), there were 100,000+ school boards in the US – run by mostly-volunteer parents and the full-time principal. Taking your turn on school board was what earned respect from neighbors and encouraged neighbors to talk to each other. Now – 13,000 school boards all in districts run by ‘professionals’ who ‘manage’ issues from elementary through high school

      You’ll forgive me if I don’t give a shit about getting involved in a governance structure that was DESIGNED to keep people from getting involved so they could ignore their own governance and delegate it to others. You reap what you sow.

      1. You’ll forgive me if I don’t give a shit about getting involved in a governance structure that was DESIGNED to keep people from getting involved so they could ignore their own governance and delegate it to others.

        Uh, anyone can run for the school board, and anyone can get involved in the governance by attending the meetings. Oftentimes, half the effort is just showing up.

        This argument is just sour grapes, and another variation of the “move along, nothing to see here” argument that CRT proponents have advanced in the wake of their ideology being challenged.

  7. “It can’t be bargained with, it can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity! Or remorse or fear and it absolutely will not stop!… ever… until you are dead!”

    1. Thanks Reese. We need more people from the future to tell us where everything going to hell started.

      1. Academic “historians” fell victim to this claptrap, and then your public educators indoctrinated your kids into treating people differently based on racial profile. It is impressive that you all endured through that final decade.

        —Joking aside, this CRT bullshit is the polar opposite of the “Celebrate Multiculturalism” theme of my public school education, and I remain on board with that. It’s the pinnacle of what Dr. King preached about, and what we should aspire to as a free society.

  8. Reason realizes CRT articles garner a lot of discussion. So we get more CRT articles.

    1. Stir that pot! And then the pot will call the kettle “black” (the kettle prefers “melanin well endowed” instead), and then things will REALLY get stirred up!

      1. Whoda thunk articles on Clitoris Rubbing Techniques would be so popular.

        1. I thought it was Cathode Ray Tubes! Or maybe “Catholics Raunchily Titillate” (think Billy Joel and “Catholic girls start much too late”). I stand corrected!

          1. Amazing I ignore 90% of your posts, and I still remember you already posted this joke.

            1. Regarding CRT maybe he has CRS?

            2. OMG!!! Your mammaries are improving!!! Mammaries… Of the way we were… Can be BEAUTIFUL, ya know!

              Those “smart pills” from the bottom of the rabbit hutch seem to be FINALLY working for ya! GRRRRREAT, for you, I say, “channeling” Tony the Tiger!

              (I am doing my best to keep Tony the Hungry Tiger AWAY from your oh-so-helpful rabbits, BTW, I will have you know. Benevolent, am I am I am, Sam-I-am!)

            3. To be fair, sarcasmic posts the same lame “”””””””””jokes”””””””””” 20-30 times per day in every article posted to Reason.com. He has quite literally about 15 canned responses and posts nothing else. Just copies and pastes the same shit, regardless of how irrelevant or out of context it is.

              1. Do you recall the awesome enchanter named “Tim”, in “Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail”? The one who could “summon fire without flint or tinder”? Well, you remind me of Tim… You are an enchanter who can summon persuasion without facts or logic!

                So I discussed your awesome talents with some dear personal friends on the Reason staff… Accordingly…

                Reason staff has asked me to convey the following message to you:

                Hi Fantastically Talented Author:

                Obviously, you are a silver-tongued orator, and you also know how to translate your spectacular talents to the written word! We at Reason have need for writers like you, who have near-magical persuasive powers, without having to write at great, tedious length, or resorting to boring facts and citations.

                At Reason, we pay above-market-band salaries to permanent staff, or above-market-band per-word-based fees to freelancers, at your choice. To both permanent staff, and to free-lancers, we provide excellent health, dental, and vision benefits. We also provide FREE unlimited access to nubile young groupies, although we do firmly stipulate that persuasion, not coercion, MUST be applied when taking advantage of said nubile young groupies.

                Please send your resume, and another sample of your writings, along with your salary or fee demands, to ReasonNeedsBrilliantlyPersuasiveWriters@Reason.com .

                Thank You! -Reason Staff

                1. See?

                  1. Lol. A search for this exact text string at Reason.com yields 122 results

                    It’s beyond hilarious that this stupid alocholic welfare queen kiddie fucker literally posts the same spam copypasta in response to a post pointing out that he has only 15 canned responses to any given post.

                    1. Eternal Truths never change!

                      So WHEN are ya gonna git off’n yer fat ass, and write that email to ReasonNeedsBrilliantlyPersuasiveWriters@Reason.com ?!?! Fame and fortune awaits YOU!

              2. That’s because sarc and squirrel are the same person.

                1. That’s because R Mac and Tulpa are the same fake-people generated by a spambot in Russia, I am told!

                  “Dear Abby” is a personal friend of mine. She gets some VERY strange letters! For my amusement, she forwards some of them to me from time to time. Here is a relevant one:

                  Dear Abby, Dear Abby,
                  My life is a mess,
                  Even Bill Clinton won’t stain my dress,
                  I whinny seductively for the horses,
                  They tell me my picnic is short a few courses,
                  My real name is Mary Stack,
                  NO ONE wants my hairy crack!
                  On disability, I live all alone,
                  Spend desperate nights by the phone,
                  I found a man named Richard (Dick) Decker,
                  But he won’t give me his hairy pecker!
                  Dick Decker’s pecker is reserved for farm beasts,
                  I am beastly, yes! But my crack’s full of yeasts!

                  So Dear Abby, that’s just a poetic summary… You can read about the Love of my Life, Richard Decker, here:
                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/11/farmers-kept-refusing-let-him-have-sex-with-their-animals-so-he-sought-revenge-authorities-say/#comments-wrapper
                  Farmers kept refusing to let him have sex with their animals. So he sought revenge, authorities say.
                  Decker the hairy pecker told me a summary of his story as below:
                  Decker: “Can I have sex with your horse?”
                  Farmer: “Lemme go ask the horse.”
                  Pause…
                  Farmer: “My horse says ‘neigh’!”
                  And THAT was straight from the horse’s mouth! I’m not horsin’ around, here, no mare!

                  So Richard Decker the hairy pecker told me that, apparently never even realizing just HOW DEEPLY it hurt me, that he was all interested in farm beasts, while totally ignoring MEEE!!

                  So I thought maybe I could at least liven up my lonely-heart social life, by refining my common interests that I share with Richard Decker… I, too, like to have sex with horses!

                  But Dear Abby, the horses ALL keep on saying “neigh” to my whinnying sexual advances!
                  Some tell me that my whinnying is too whiny… Abby, I don’t know how to fix it!

                  Dear Abby, please don’t tell me “get therapy”… I can’t afford it on my disability check!

                  Now, along with my crack full of yeasts… I am developing anorexia! Some are calling me a “quarter pounder with cheese”, but they are NOT interested at ALL, in eating me!!! They will NOT snack on my crack!

                  What will I DO, Dear Abby?!?!?

                  -Desperately Seeking Horses, Men, or ANYTHING, in Fort Worth,
                  Yours Truly,
                  Mary Stack / Tulpa / Mary’s Period / “.” / Satan

                2. That was the point I was making.

      2. Can we still call a spade a spade?

    2. Food trucks and weed no longer hold the attention while you’re in your mandated sensitivity training seminar.

  9. I’m tellin’ y’all, this is an issue that can split the Millennials, and that’s why it’s important. The boomers were way far to the left, too–until reality on things like crime, horribly run liberal cities, busing, and other similar issues split them into two camps back in the day.

    Those deadhead stickers we used to see on BMWs weren’t put on them by yuppies who discovered the Dead after they became yuppies. The yuppies were hippies like Steve Jobs and Paul Allen when they were kids. Most of them moved to the suburbs and turned into their parents with different tastes in music.

    Mama’s alright
    Daddy’s alright
    They just seem a little weird
    Surrender

    The Millennials were characterized by having an especially late adolescence, but just like their boomer parents and grandparents, half of them will shed their lefty bias as reality sets in. They were already moving to the suburbs in droves to get away from the problems of inner cities–in large numbers–going back to 2017. The pandemic just accelerated an ongoing trend. They’re looking for safe neighborhoods and good schools. They’d vote for Reagan if they could.

    There isn’t anything about this generation that makes them substantively different from earlier generations–including their belief that they’re the first woke generation. The boomers thought that about themselves, too. The only thing that may be different this time is the super-delayed adulthood, but they used to blame Dr. Spock and the coddling of the boomers for that generation’s delayed adulthood, too.

    Because boomers and Millennials don’t like racism, doesn’t mean they want to subject their kids to this shit. The progressives are overplaying their hand. If you’re looking for a great way to make Millenials vote Republican, this is how you turn Millenials red. That’s why I think CRT is interesting.

    1. >>Those deadhead stickers we used to see on BMWs

      had one on every car since Anaheim, July ’87

      1. Dude, so you’re an Angels’ fan?

        1. lol no but I lived 10 minutes from the Big A in the late ’80s and there were corporate Angels and Lambs season tix because of my pops.

          Anaheim ’87 was my first Dead show.

          1. I was goin’ after the Angels the other day because they’re Welch’s team.

      2. Like a deadhead sticker on a Cadillac?

        1. exactly. presently on a Mustang.

        2. A little voice inside my head said, “Don’t look back, you can never look back.”

    2. “The Millennials were characterized by having an especially late adolescence, but just like their boomer parents and grandparents,

      Not sexually. Young people are hitting puberty maybe a year before their parents and grandparents did. Adolescence is getting earlier is the actual medical finding according to my internet sources.

      “They were already moving to the suburbs in droves to get away from the problems of inner cities–in large numbers–going back to 2017. The pandemic just accelerated an ongoing trend. They’re looking for safe neighborhoods and good schools. They’d vote for Reagan if they could. ”

      Careful what you wish for. Black Americans have been moving to Atlanta and its suburbs for some time now, and look where it got us. (For the particularly obtuse, I’m referring to the 2020 election’s results for Georgia.)

      1. I’m pretty sure it was “not sexually” on purpose.

        1. Yes but we got to learn something about mtrueman today.

        2. Adolescence is defined by the onset of sexual maturity. Sorry if that offends your puritanical scruples.

          1. Scruples not offended.

            He clearly was not making a sexual point for you to disagree with.

            1. “He clearly was not making a sexual point ”

              That’s the problem, isn’t it? How else are you going to talk about achieving sexual maturity without making a sexual point?

              And his celebration of blacks moving to Georgia in numbers sufficient to swing the state to the hated democrat elitists, is totally out of character.

              1. “”That’s the problem, isn’t it? How else are you going to talk about achieving sexual maturity without making a sexual point?””

                You said “not sexually”, so perhaps you already knew.

                1. “You said “not sexually”

                  I can say many words sexually. How better to lure female companions into my chamber for sexual encounters?

                  1. And a pile of bullshit pretending to be clever besides.

                2. trueman is nothing of not a lying sophist.

          2. Please tell me more merriam webster.

      2. (For the particularly obtuse, I’m referring to the 2020 election’s results for Georgia.)</blockquote.

        For the particularly autistic, thanks for explaining your own colossally lame joke that everybody got because they aren't autistic retards like you.

        1. To the particularly ham fisted htmlers out there, don’t give up. You’ll get there.

          1. *autistically screeches about a . in place of a >*

            That’ll teach me.

            1. Stupidity and dishonesty won’t teach trueman; he’s wedded to them.

    3. The Millennials were characterized by having an especially late adolescence, but just like their boomer parents and grandparents, half of them will shed their lefty bias as reality sets in.

      My fear is by that time, we’ll all be dead or in camps.

    4. There isn’t anything about this generation that makes them substantively different from earlier generations–including their belief that they’re the first woke generation.

      Generation X was the first woke generation, but thankfully, Gen X, being Gen X, couldn’t muster the ambition and stick-with-it gumption to carry it through to its ultimate conclusion, so it died out when they had kids and moved to the suburbs.

      1. We became politically aware in the go-go eighties.

        We watched the Soviet Union dissolve.

        The greatest liberation of mankind in human history happened during our formative years, and it was all about overthrowing woke socialism.

        The best we could muster for the left was apathy. We should be proud of that.

  10. “In response, the conservative writer J.D. Vance quipped that U.S. generals should read less about “white rage” and more about “not losing wars.”

    That’s a cheap shot and untrue and unfair about not losing wars. In Iraq for example, the US military deposed Saddam and installed a genuinely democratic government, the one of the famed purple thumb. The US won that war. It was the ensuing occupation that the US lost. From all accounts military occupation is a miserable occupation, as in job. To win an occupation it’s probably better to send civil servants than soldiers. (See the British colonization of Sudan.) For Afghanistan it’s much the same, except it was a government of corrupt dope warlords, and the ‘democracy’ was a sham.

    1. Every single war initiated by the U.S. after the “good war” has been a sham–Panama, Grenada, the Middle East. You name it, nothing but destruction and waste.

      1. The war on drugs was successf…never mind.

        1. It was successful at expanding the reach of the government.

      2. “You name it, nothing but destruction and waste.”

        I agree, But the neocon’s goal of transforming society is not impossible if you as a nation are willing to put the time and effort and money and people into the colonial enterprise which the British did with some success. In the US the timing is governed by elections that go whizzing by every two years, making the political class take a campaigning posture rather than a long term governing one. All the money goes to the military which is unsuited to the job, and the nation doesn’t care, the media sends an imbed for a couple of weeks at the start then forgets about it….

    2. Great post by schlicter –

      https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/06/07/why-are-all-the-experts-such-dopes-n2590535

      In an era where we have more experts, everyone seems to keep messing things up, including wars, economies and science.

    3. Where do you get that Iraq was a successful war? We sent troops to defend the so-called “right” of the Iraqi people to vote themselves into Sha’ria law with their purple thumbs. This also helped turn Iraq into a playground for both Al-Qaeda and Iran’s terrorist tentacles. All to the tune of thousands of U.S. lives and $Trillions of Taxdollars!

      1. You can’t blame the military for not providing young people opportunity to make an honest living. Even Saddam gave people the sense of security to lead peaceful fulfilling (non political) lives without feeling the need to throw their lot in with nihilistic fanatics. Iran today is similar. Or China.

        I’m not sure the dictate of a murderous thug like Saddam is preferable to Sharia Law. It might be better for men, in some regards, but at least Sharia is a legal system, and is based on traditional ethical grounds and is well understood. Both in Egypt (after Tahir Square) and Iraq clerical parties won big because they were the only ones running who weren’t tainted by corruption and incompetence. Same can be said of the electoral victories of Hezbollah and Hamas. Not saying that any of these parties remained untainted for long, but that was the public perception at the start.

      2. The problem is we no longer have the backbone to give them the MacArthur treatment. After WWII he did not worry what the Shinto’s would think he dictated a modern constitution and “allowed” the Japanese to ratify it. Imagine if Bush / Bremer had put in place a constitution based on democratic ideals, namely equal rights, freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

    4. It’s completely fair. All this woke crap is weakening our military. Not surprising, given that general officer promotions wpreally want to weak, sycophantic scum during Obama’s regime. I’m sure there are many more undeserved promotions to those that will violate their general orders and follow any illegal orders Biden is told to give.

      1. “It’s completely fair. ”

        It’s completely unfair. Regime change was their mission and the military accomplished it. What more do you want? What more can you expect given the American public’s total lack of support necessary to make the colonial project a success. The military were willing to risk their lives. The weakness lies in lack of American resolve to sincerely follow through.

        1. Regime change requires hanging around so your implant isn’t removed. It’s part of the follow through.

  11. An argument about semantics when one side promotes the childish notion that words cannot have definite meanings (it is not a completely untrue observation, it just is not a helpful one) will devolve into silliness. A lot of these charlatans like Kendi and D’Angelo say they take their cues from CRT, as well as the fact the academic CRT seems to be promoting some toxic ideas that are not being contained in the Academy, like coronaviruses may not be contained in Chinese virology labs.

    1. I think it’s important to understand the limitations of words, and as precisely as you can. What are you suggesting? That we have a bias toward assuming that words are what? Absolute? Can you even explain what that means?

      1. I am saying if we do not have generally agreed to and consistent definitions, then we cannot communicate properly. As I said, there is some truth to that assertion, it just is not helpful to anyone.

        1. That is the case for almost all words. Surely there’s room to reinterpret a handful if it means people live better lives.

          1. You and your treasonous collective are intent on redefining words to fit your totalitarian Marxist agenda.

          2. “That is the case for almost all words. Surely there’s room to reinterpret a handful if it means people live better lives.”

            Shitstain here hopes the world will learn to lie as he does, since he fantasizes it might help some people.
            Shitstain has many ways of exhibiting his stupidity; the Tony/turd rule.

          3. I feel sorry for the people who’s lives depend on loose reinterpretations of common words… sorry that you’re their hero.

        2. And of course, you can never know for sure if a word means the same to another person as it does to you. But if there is to be any hope of communication, we need to at least try. One of the worst things about Critical Whatever is that is actively works to destroy meaning, changes the definition of common words and generally makes any debate on the subject impossible through word games and subjectivity.

      2. Yes. We only use dictionaries and their definitions printed before 2000.

    2. A lot of these activists are starting to play these weird semantic games, where their works are completely in frame with CRT and every CRT critic understands the general stream of “woke” bullshit being taught, but people like Kendi are now disavowing CRT (in name only) while carrying on the same vein of racist crap that every CRT critic already associates with CRT.

      When critics talk about CRT they are talking about these ideas that every institution in our culture is racist and white people carry the original sin of racism and have to spend the entirety of their existence apologizing for something they (and perhaps their ancestors) didn’t even do. So when people get upset at these general ideas and call it CRT, everyone who has played with these ideas will say “oh well Im not a CRT person, I study critical discrimination theory which is a totally different academic endeavor” and then proceed to stick by the same racist crap they know is at the core of the CRT critic’s complaints.

      1. CRT is just the lefts big lie to cover up the fact democrats have been destroying black neighborhoods and doing everything they could to keep them from getting a good education and good jobs for the past 100 plus years.

        Democrats need an excuse for when you ask “hey black and minority folks, after nearly 60 years of Democrat control leading to poor schools, policing, and economic opportunities in your city, why do you keep voting for Democrat mayors and council members?”

        1. This is a good point. LBJs War on Poverty was a failure that threw off the actual decline on poverty.

          1. When LBJ signed the Voting Rights Bill, he stated,” from now on we have the vote of every n***** for the next two hundred years.”
            And they pretty much have so far.

      2. ” everyone who has played with these ideas will say “oh well Im not a CRT person, I study critical discrimination theory which is a totally different academic endeavor” and then proceed to stick by the same racist crap they know is at the core of the CRT critic’s complaints.”

        That is the essence of Critical Theory – it can be adapted to most any topic. The key element to recognize is that it always posits some sort of power disparity between to groups. Original Marx and Engels Marxism stuck with class and class alone. It was the Frankfurt School people, witnessing the failure of OG Marxism who had the idea to extend the paradigm.

        But it will always involve some sort of disparity between groups and that is the tell. Recognize that any time anyone accepts these arguments they are accepting the logic of collectivism.

        Treat them accordingly.

        1. “power disparity between two groups.”

  12. “”To win an occupation it’s probably better to send civil servants than soldiers.””

    Hahahahahahaha. What do you think the Taliban is going to do with those civil servants? Convert or die.

    1. What do you think the Taliban is going to do with those civil servants?

      You’d be surprised what a well equipped, loyal, professional constabulary can do. Especially in the cities, towns and transportation network. As long as the bandits stay in the hills, it’s let sleeping dogs lie. The British took their civil servanting pretty seriously. Orwell, who’d been to Oxford and came from a very comfortable background became policeman in Burma. They sent their best and brightest to manage their colonies. In the US, it’s down to the military, who, let’s face it, are not the best of brightest, but misfits, ne’er do wells, shirkers, hillbillies, psychos, martinets, and careerists.

      1. I thought you were serious for a moment until I read the “as long as the bandits stay in the hills, it’s let sleeping dogs lie.” part.

        1. It’s because Afghanistan is mostly “the hills”, right?

        2. Know your weakness. That’s the key. No empire can control all its territory all the time. Read about the pilgrimages to Jerusalem during the 19th century when the Turks governed the place. The pilgrims never went without an armed escort for protection from the Bandits in the hills. The Caucasus, the hills of Mexico etc. Thing is that bandits are a criminal class. You can’t make an army entirely of criminals. Especially if young men are given the opportunity to earn a decent, honorable living doing civilian things, like delivering pizza or tagging photos for Amazon’s Mechanical Turk, etc.

          1. “…You can’t make an army entirely of criminals. Especially if young men are given the opportunity to earn a decent, honorable living doing civilian things, like delivering pizza or tagging photos for Amazon’s Mechanical Turk, etc.”

            Asshole here seems to think HE knows better how to arrange an economy than does the market.
            We have a term for people like that: Fucking ignoramuses.

      2. In the US, it’s down to the military, who, let’s face it, are not the best of brightest, but misfits, ne’er do wells, shirkers, hillbillies, psychos, martinets, and careerists.

        You forgot hood rats.

        1. “You forgot hood rats.”

          The army hasn’t.

          1. Well, sure, even the Air Force takes them.

      3. “You’d be surprised what a well equipped, loyal, professional constabulary can do…”

        And what ponies can do, too.

        1. You would be surprised what ponies are capable of. They lasted almost as long as Scott and the others on their expedition to the south pole more than 100 years ago. They almost made it to the south pole until conditions became impossible for them and the beloved beasts had to be shot and eaten. The rest of the members of the expedition died of heart break and exposure shortly after. There are geographical features of the Antarctic which bear the ponies’ names in tribute to their contributions.

          1. I’m not at all surprised or amused at your pile of bullshit.

            1. I was surprised. Ponies walking huge distances over the Antarctic ice! What splendid beasts! My heart goes out to them.

              1. Sevo, though, has no heart, sad to say… He is a one-trick pony, whose trick is sadistic trolling.

  13. CRT is antiwhite.

    1. It’s just more woke treason.

  14. What do you think the Taliban is going to do with those civil servants? Convert or die.

    Convert? Good choice. Fill out this J-1 Form, provide 2 forms of picture ID, a character reference…

    1. Meant for TrickyVic, above.

      1. Ha!

        Eddie Izzard’s voice popped in my head reading that.

  15. > Critical Race Theory Can’t Be Banned. It Can Be Exposed, Mocked, and Avoided.

    Reason comment section hardest hit.

    1. Sure it can be banned. Just depends on the will to do it.

  16. I want to understand white rage, and I’m white. And I want to understand it

    It kind of like black rage, but less ethnic.

    1. Hillary’s super predators.

  17. This author coddles critical racist theory too much. For example, his description of Yale psycho Aruna Khilanani leaves out that this horrible woman (in every sense of the word) confessed on tweeter he had fantasized about killing whites. Imagine a whitey saying the same about blacks. What would happen? To this day, Khilanani is still at Yale.

    1. They say it all the time about blacks, but you dismiss all of the open racists as not relevant while you gripe about some handpicked tweeter nobody has ever heard about.

      1. Do you even believe the bullshit you spew?

        1. That there are more open racists batting for your team than there are Antifa batting for mine?

          I try not to have strong beliefs.

          1. Oh, I don’t know–I certainly don’t see too much of your kind in the majority-minority neighborhoods in and around Aurora or west Denver, for example.

          2. Shit stain here claims to avoid strong beliefs, but he holds strong stupidity in abundance.
            Notice how he simply ignored the question he was asked?
            QED

            1. “”Notice how he simply ignored the question he was asked?””

              It might not have technically been an answer, the question was answered in the affirmative by his comment.

              1. It is easily inferred.

      2. Really? Who says that about blacks? Name them.

    2. Imagine a black guy shooting 5, killing 2, white people at multiple locations in Georgia for no other reason than the color of their skin…
      Too local I guess

  18. There’s a difference between “banning” in the sense of preventing it from existing and “banning” in the sense of preventing taxpayer dollars from being used to promote it.

    Libertarians should support the latter. Unfortunately, the Reason types would rather happily embrace the Left’s dishonest framing.

    1. Exactly. Thank you.

    2. Thank you. It’s one thing to try to ban someone from espousing beliefs (a 1A violation) and another to ban taxpayer funds going to instruction of very specific ideas, like that all white people contribute to racism and are oppressors, or that the US should practice reverse discrimination to correct past discrimination (whether real or merely perceived). CRT is not so vague a concept (as Reason here wants to claim) that people can’t distill it’s ideas into some very basic messages that clearly run afoul of existing anti-discrimination laws like the Civil Rights Act and simply say, “my tax dollars aren’t going to pay for this racist tripe.”

      1. Except that none of the ideas you attribute to CRT are actually part of (austere) CRT.

    3. Yeah, I disappointed in Soave. One “side” here wants to pretend this is all just a wayward misunderstanding of the nature, purpose, and goals of CRT, and the other “side” is a number of people–some on the right, some not, and some just bystanders alarmed at what is being taught to their kids as “truth”–who don’t think indoctrination of children into a hateful ideology is something the government should impose, parents should accept, or taxpayers foot the bill for. It figures that it’s top-down government action that Reason is carrying water for, but also, retreating into a semantic hall of mirrors is a favorite deflecting tactic of the left whenever their evil shit gets any attention. Instead of helping them do it, Soave and his colleagues should be holding them to account for what is being taught right now–to kids, to other captive audiences in the government and corporations, and in a slow drip through the media–which is obviously evil horseshit. But you’re not describing the “real” CRT is such an obvious red herring. I don’t give a shit about what Derrick Bell did or did not think. What I care about is what’s happening now. If CRT is a handy label gathering up a bunch of hateful nonsense that until now has been largely unchallenged? Great, let’s use it then. The shoe fits about as well as any of the left’s semantic ploys.

      1. You expected intellectual honesty from a Reason writer?

        What in the last ten years have you read to give you cause for that?

    4. This is the point they are intentionally avoiding.

      And it is not through ignorance. Nor is it because they agree with anti-racism.

      Editor Katherine Mangu-Ward has consistently poo-pooed concerns over this stuff, while sounding the alarm over attempts by the right to stop it .

      Yet in the reason roundtable she reveals that she was very happy to find a private school for her kids that would not be teaching this nonsense to her children.

      They know it is evil. They know it is designed to foster racism in our society and polity. They know it is something to protect their children from.

      Yet they do not publicly oppose it… And they fight public opposition to it.

      1. She would’ve loved Vichy France

    5. The problem with “banning CRT” even in the taxpayer sense is that no matter how you define CRT, it includes some non-objectionable material that moderate progressives like myself wouldn’t want to see banned. For example, CRT is all about the history of slavery in the US. Does banning CRT mean that public schools can’t teach about the history of slavery at all?

      If the answer is something like “no no, we just want to ban the bad parts of CRT” then you need to say what those are. Most likely, lots of progressives would agree with you. I don’t think schools should be teaching that anyone should feel a certain way (e.g. guilty) based on their race, or that white people are inherently oppressive, or anything like that. But accurate history, yes.

      (Some proponents of CRT bans have proposed teaching whitewashed versions of history if you’ll excuse the pun. I find that pretty frightening. I’ll reply with a link if I can find it again.)

      Like the article says, some progressives will love getting conservatives to do the dirty work of banning “racist” ideas, which will surely end up being used to ensnare right-wing material more so than left-wing. It’s the perfect long con! But I am not among them — I think banning ideas is never a good solution.

  19. “David French is also correct…”

    Blind squirrels and nuts sure. But quoting that fop is not helping your argument.

    CRT is racism. Democrats are racists for promoting it. Lefties were never liberals anyway, just faking it. Whatever comes out of their mouths is a lie. Start with that and you’ll never go wrong.

    1. It’s why no one should respond to tony

      1. or Witless Mike

      2. No use engaging shitstain, but mocking his lame ass and pointing out his many lies is worthwhile.

        1. Like Mike Trout, without a mask on, teeing off on his piñata of arguments. We have a good idea what the outcome will be.

          1. Gee it’s almost like you’re totally and completely full of fucking shit and transparently shilling for radical Marxist racism to be taught at taxpayer expense.

            1. BOTH SIDES do it, to be sure

              1. Just think how the writers here would have found ways to defend desegregation back in the Sixties.

                TooSilly? Would have told us that school choice was the answer.

                Rico Soave? Would have recommended exposing and mocking it. (It should be readily apparent that ‘avoiding’ is no more operative now than it was then. Again exposing a Reason writers rank intellectual dishonesty.)

                ENB? Who knows, be we all know it would have been both hypocritical and banal.

                Being waterboys for the DNC collectivists left is all they know how to do.

                1. “defend against desegregation”

  20. The issue isn’t banning crt as much as it is this is just another jab in the lefts longtime quest to control and manipulate our education system. And as we see in all our major cities, if democrats can do anything, it’s run public schools that get terrible results for decades on end all the while syphoning off every resource they can get for their piece of shit teachers union pals.

  21. pRivAtE CoMPanIEs!!!!!!

    I’m sure if the Donald Trump administration had sent threatening emails to Facebook and Facebook then complied with the Donald Trump administration’s wishes we’d all be fine with it, right?

  22. Give a man a rant exposing and mocking Critical Theory, and he can avoid it for a day.

    Teach a man to deconstruct Critical Theory as well as the average PoMo perpetrator puts it together , and the alphabet soup woketariat will run away screaming as though Umberto Eco had risen from the grave,

    https://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2021/06/climate-change-critical-theory-and.html

  23. Ironically if this nation wasn’t so Nazified; CRT wouldn’t be anything more than a bad selling book by an idiot.

    CRT *is* a discussion because of Commie-Education. (i.e. Government indoctrination).

    1. We need to remove the communists.

  24. The journalist Katie Herzog interviewed the psychiatrist, Aruna Khilanani, for Bari Weiss’s newsletter, and it was revelatory. Khilanani is possessed of one of the oddest notions I have ever encountered in my 10 years of critiquing progressive activist tactics and beliefs: She thinks white people refuse to eat bread (?) because they are guilty about their racism and want to starve themselves (??).

    She also said in a public speech delivered to Yale medical students and entitled “The Psychopathic Problem of the White Mind” that, quote:

    Nothing makes me angrier than a white person who tells me not to be angry. White people make my blood boil. I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, burying their body and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively guiltless with a bounce in my step, like I did the world a fucking favor.

    That’s a little bit more disturbing than idiotically rambling about white people not eating bread. At least if you’re not a dyed-in-the-wool radical Marxist piece of shit practicing apologetics for fellow traveller radical Marxist pieces of shit.

    1. Yeah, and the course she was a part of was advertised to “trainees in child psychology, psychology, and social work, faculty, clinicians, scientists.” Moreover, the course fulfilled licensure requirements for the State of Connecticut. I think that has been lost on many people, just how demented it is.

      These people are very sick. Think of how far we’ve come where anyone would feel comfortable stating those beliefs in a public forum like that.

      The regressive leftists are more obsessed with race than any other group since the Nazis, and they would be every bit as genocidal given the opportunity.

      1. This is why we need to get rid of them before they get rid of us.

  25. Do any of you in this thread have any experience with busing? I was growing up in DC, going to private schools, when big daddy was transferred to San Diego for a year. He decided I needed to know what the real world was like, and they sent me to an elementary public school for a year while I was there.

    For one day, every week, they bused us from a San Diego beach town to a school where the only other white kids were the few dozen kids they sent with me on my bus. We’d start every day with a singalong and end the day with the same songs all over again. It felt like they were trying to indoctrinate us, even back then. It felt like the stuff they do in church to teach kids about Christianity only it wasn’t about religion*.

    One of the songs was this one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHf_mqOzKy8

    The other kids at the school treated us like the new guys in jail. They wanted to see if they could push us around. They kept ganging up on my friends and picking on them. I was sent to the principal’s office for fighting, and I flat out told the lady–if you’re not going to protect us, I’m fighting back. I thought I’d get in trouble when I got home, but they didn’t bother to tell my parents that I’d gotten into a fight. I guess that wasn’t any of their business? I suspect they didn’t want to give parents a reason to complain about busing their kids.

    Growing up in DC, when 90% of the people there were African-American, being in the minority wasn’t a novel experience for me, but for the kids who were bused to that school with me, I’m sure none of them had ever felt what it was like to be in the minority before. I don’t know whether the busing had the intended effect–even only one day a week, those kids were kinda dreading it.

    Going from a wealthy suburb to a run down neighborhood with kids who were dealing with issues at home that would have been completely alien to most of my classmates in that beach town was probably not a positive experience for them. If the government wanted to teach them to empathize with people who were different from them, subjecting them to a population of kids who were struggling with poverty, etc.–and making that experience all about race–may not have had the effect the government wanted.

    I suspect the reason the left largely abandoned busing is because 1) it’s unpopular and 2) maybe it doesn’t work as intended. Rather than sending rich kids to a poor school, how ’bout giving poor kids an opportunity to go to a better school instead? I guess that’s what choice is about.

    I don’t think there is anything that new about CRT. It’s just Marxism. All the Gen X kids had hippies for teachers, and lots of this stuff has been done before. It should be resisted like any form of Marxism.

    *In church, they taught us that God created people of every color and Jesus died for each and every one of us, and if we didn’t love our neighbors as ourselves, we’d burn in hell.

    Score after the first quarter?

    Christianity: 1
    Marxism: 0

    1. Marxism has nothing to do with this you idiot. You’re incoming Marxism the same way Hitler invoked it: to scare people with a scary world and get them more pliable and willing to murder the Jews.

      1. Comrade, it has already been explained to you how CRT is a subset of Critical Theory, which is Marxist. So it is incumbent upon you to explain to us why CRT is not Marxist.

        1. It has been asserted by slack-jawed FOX News addicts, but not explained.

          Why shouldn’t people learn about Marxism, again?

          1. Shitstain here seems to think you learn about the failed Marxist economic theory by reading Marxist propaganda.
            He’s stupid in so many, many ways!

          2. People should learn about Marxism. As a sort of cautionary tale of things to be avoided, and destroyed. Just as you should be avoided, or destroyed.

            1. How about you stop trying to dictate the ethical belief systems of other people?

              1. Maybe when you stop doing the same.

                1. He made a good comment about why CRT should be resisted and didn’t even realize it.

                  1. At least he puts forth actual arguments, predictable as they are.

              2. Shitstain here assumes Marxism, the cause of something like 100,000,000 innocent people over the last hundred years should be considered an “ethical belief system”
                Further, not far up thread, claims knowledge of history and claims not to hold ‘strong beliefs’!
                This pile of lefty shit is attempting to defend the regimes which murdered more innocents than probably the total war deaths in human history, and yet assumes there’s ‘ethics’ involved.
                Shitstain, you really aren’t worth engaging, but you are one of the most worth pile of flesh the world has yet seen.

                1. Oh, for an edit featuer:
                  “…Shitstain, you really aren’t worth engaging, but you are one of the most worthLESS pileS of flesh the world has yet seen.”

              3. That is in itself an argument for critical race theory not being taught in primary schools, innit? And, against the vast majority of social ‘justice’ philosophy as proselytized by media, pundits, educators, and politicians.

          3. Either all the leftists on reason are also homos, or you, hihn, and Jeff all share the same obsession with other peoples mouths and snorting.

            Weird.

      2. You are the idiot. It is straight Marxism, simply subbing “race” for “class”

        1. Both race and class are relevant to many discussions of human liberty and justice. Why do you want to prevent college students from learning about these things?

          1. Hey, I’m certainly down with demonizing white liberals.

          2. Shitstain here can’t seem to spell “lies”.
            He’s stupid that way and many others.

          3. Students should definitely learn the evils of Marxism.

            1. Sounds like something a sad slack-jawed apologist for capitalism would say. Especially a poor one.

              1. A slack-jawed defense of Marxist propaganda by out resident Marxist shitstain.

              2. Like so many left-leaning sorts, classist to the core in your dislike of the working class and poor.

    2. “I suspect the reason the left largely abandoned busing is”

      It’s not just the left that abandoned it. President Nixon hated it too. To replace busing he supported the Equal Educational Opportunities bill and the Equal Employment Opportunities bill (think quotas). A lot more costly than busing a few kids around. Again, careful what you wish for.

      1. I’ll bet trueman somehow lost the cite supporting his claims about Nixon’s motives.

      2. Biden is against busing too. He supported a constitutional amendment to keep black kids from going to school with white kids. But he has evolved. Yes he has. He believes some poor kids are just as smart as white kids.

        1. “Biden is against busing too.”

          For schools where sports play a big role, I favor training. For medical and nursing schools, caring. Carpentry schools, what else but planeing.

          1. For comments not exhibiting sophist bullshit, we all favor trueman fucking off.

          2. You got owned by ranger. Trying to be cute won’t save it.

            1. Nixon wasn’t opposed on principle to a constitutional amendment. He just thought it was too impractical and time consuming. That’s why he favored the legislation I referred to earlier instead. I’m not interested in what Biden did, thought or said. Nixon remains my favorite president of the 20th century, warts and all.

    3. I suspect the reason the left largely abandoned busing is because 1) it’s unpopular and 2) maybe it doesn’t work as intended.

      The left never abandoned busing, it still exists in many places. But it covers fewer people because many moved across jurisdictional lines so busing couldn’t be forced on them. This is why the left hates federalism and seeks to set up institutions and laws covering all jurisdictions so they can be enforced everywhere.

      1. “This is why the left hates federalism and seeks to set up institutions and laws covering all jurisdictions so they can be enforced everywhere.”

        You gotta admit federalism in the US is a bit of a sham. For example Nevada, a nearly empty desert with fewer than 10k inhabitants was granted statehood as a part of Lincoln’s machinations to rig the 1864 election,

        1. You gotta admit trueman’s idiocy is regularly displayed on these pages.

  26. As far as I can tell CRT is just another form of racism.

    Unless every race, sex and identifiable group is ruthlessly scrutinized and outed for every form of bigotry any members of their group have ever participated in, they are cherry-picking.

    1. “…ruthlessly scrutinized and outed for every form of bigotry…”

      How do you think that Holocaust-denying NAZI-storm-trooper-admiring fascist hateful evil warmongers would fare under such a regime? Do you think that your “practice speeches” in front of the mirror, in your full NAZI regalia, would be of much help to you?

      Inquiring minds want to KNOW, dammit!!!

      1. While I have demonstrated that I soundly refute that which I deny, you have only demonstrated that you are a dime a dozen humiliated liar who can’t.

        1. NAZIs killed the mentally handicapped… Like YOU! So be careful what you wish for!

  27. The Republican Party is engaged in the same thing every authoritarian regimes has done: suppress bad feelings associated with the past crimes of your nation, even to the extent of writing laws forbidding certain thoughts in schools, the better to sell their version of the nation as a nice, happy place, where we’re all OK (as long as you subscribe to their worldview).

    History isn’t supposed to make you feel good about yourself. If you feel bad because you benefited from centuries of oppression, good. The Republican Party instead is turning you into infants, because infants are easy to control.

    1. Tony, BAD dawg! You are making me feel BAD about my racism! Bad feelings are BAD; you are causing BAD feelings; therefor you must be BAD, bad-dawg!!! Stupid-dawg, ya make me look bad!

      SMART dawgs will parse the full meanings of this at… http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/

      1. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

        And then these laws literally forbid teachers from hurting any white people’s feelings with facts.

        I hate fascism. I hate what it does to truth. It fears truth and then confidently asserts that even truth is subservient to it, because that’s what power is.

        1. How about fascism from the left, dipshit? That side is a lot bigger threat to my safety and liberty than the handful of jackasses you’re worried about.

          Those guys mostly try hide their racism. The left is loud and proud about theirs.

          1. See you don’t even know you’re doing it. That’s the thing about fascism. It really prefers you to be stupid. That’s why they start hunting down professors. I guess we’re already at that stage, huh?

            The “left,” if you will, can have its form of authoritarianism too. The soviets passed laws exactly like these ones, banning the teaching that past genocides targeted certain groups, insisting that they were merely mistakes of a neutral state, the better to protect sensitive Soviet feelings.

            Maybe the American left will start to pass laws banning religious schools and libertarianism and stuff, but it’s not today. I’ll let you know when.

            1. Doing it. Lol. Whatever it is.

              You’re the one that is advocating that racism be taught in grade school. Can’t have black and white kindergartners getting along, right? That’ll lead to misogyny.

              1. Nobody is talking about grade school except you people. CRT isn’t taught in grade school and nobody is proposing that it be.

                You’re talking about grade school because the propagandists you get your thoughts from know that it’s thin ice to argue that college professors should bow to your cultural authoritarianism, but when you bring kids into it, that might really get the sheep to the polls.

                Why have a politics based entirely on fear? Don’t you worry about your blood pressure?

                1. “…Don’t you worry about your blood pressure?”

                  You’d think shitstaibn here would worry about constantly proving he’s both stupid and dishonest, but it is certainly possible to be stupid enough to fail to recognize that:
                  The Tony/turd rule…

                2. Nobody is talking about grade school except you people. CRT isn’t taught in grade school and nobody is proposing that it be.

                  If that was the case, you and your side wouldn’t be limping out about your anti-white racism being banned.

            2. Maybe the American left will start to pass laws banning religious schools and libertarianism and stuff, but it’s not today. I’ll let you know when.

              Prayer in public school: banned
              Bible reading in public school: banned
              Catholic charities placing children with adoptive families: banned
              Catholic nuns forced to pay for abortion
              Rounding up and beating Jews on the streets

              Yeah, you let us know when that shit starts Tones.

              1. Democracy: ALMOST banned already!

                This (below) poetry inspired by the REAL facts of a REAL nightmare!
                https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/trumps-big-lie-and-hitlers-is-this-how-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism-begins/
                Trump’s Big Lie and Hitler’s: Is this how America’s slide into totalitarianism begins?

                “The Sound Of Despots”

                Hello darkness, my old friend, I’ve come to talk with you again
                Because a nightmare in jackboots, left its seeds while I was sleeping
                And the nightmare that was planted in my brain, still remains
                Within the sound of despots

                In nightmares I ran alone, narrow streets of cobblestone
                Neath the halo of a streetlamp, I turned my collar to the cold and damp
                When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of an orange blight, split the night
                And touched the sound of despots

                And in their naked greed I saw, millions of sheeple, maybe more
                Sheeple talking without speaking, sheeple hearing without listening
                Sheeple’s thoughts, sanity never shared, and no one dared
                To question the despots!

                Fool, said I, you do not know, despots, like a cancer, grows
                Hear my words and I might teach you, take my arms then I might reach you
                But my words, like silent raindrops fell, and echoed in the wells of despots

                And the morons bowed and prayed to the orange god they’d made
                And the sign flashed its warning in the words that it was forming
                And the sign said the words of the despots are written in the Biggest Lies
                And tenement halls, and shouted, in the sounds of despots

              2. Take it up with the Founders.

                1. Shitstain here seems to think the founders had something to do with that list.
                  As mentioned below, shitstain’s acquaintance with the historical record is what he’s ‘read’ in Parade Magazine.

        2. Seriously, read the Texas law moron. It explicitly requires the teaching of white supremacy and the negative impact it had on blacks. You can’t even seem to make an honest argument over this.

          1. Do you not think white supremacy had a negative impact on blacks?

            1. That is such a stupid question with such an obvious answer that I’m not even going to answer it. You’re so far out there in the extremities on this that there’s no discussion to be had.

              1. “It explicitly requires the teaching of white supremacy and the negative impact it had on blacks.”

                You are objecting to this, whatever it is. Do you think people should be shielded from white supremacy and black oppression in history class? Isn’t that a rather important part of American history?

                Why do you want people to grow up with giant gaps in their knowledge of history?

                1. Do you think white people should be blamed for every bad thing that happened in human history? Why do you want white people to hate themselves?

                  1. No, I don’t think people should be blamed for anything. I’m a determinist and a morality skeptic. Blame is a waste of time.

                    1. No, I don’t think people should be blamed for anything.

                      Then stop crying “fascist” whenever someone stands up to you and blaming white people for everything.

                    2. White people are to blame for a lot of the unnecessary evil of the past several hundred years, but if there happened to be Chinese people in Scotland during the Industrial Revolution, they would have discovered coal and they would have started the global slave trade and imperialism.

                      The actual Chinese are no peach, for that matter.

                      I think people have been pretty fucking evil, but that we can do and have done better.

                      All CRT does, as far as I understand, is explain how history unfolded with a race-based narrative. Just as there is a Marxian narrative and a Christian narrative and a postmodern narrative and yada yada yada.

                      Nobody is trying to blame you personally for anything but what you do in your own life. So you can stop crying so fucking much, you goddamn tit baby.

                    3. All CRT does, as far as I understand, is explain how history unfolded with a race-based narrative.

                      Which isn’t that different from what the Nazis and southern slaveonwers did, unironically.

                      Nobody is trying to blame you personally for anything but what you do in your own life.

                      No, you and your side definitely blame white people for everything bad that’s ever happened. Anyway, I’m Hispanic and brown-skinned, so stop blaming me for everything that went wrong with other non-white people that you’d never live amongst.

                    4. “All CRT does, as far as I understand,..”

                      Shitstain here admits he knows nothing about it, but defends it none the less.
                      Shitstain tries for the gold in stooooooooooopid quite often.

                2. “…Why do you want people to grow up with giant gaps in their knowledge of history?”

                  Shitstain here suggests he has the ability to identify ‘gaps’ in the historical record.
                  Anyone who has read his constant stream of lies knows full well that’s not true.

                  1. Perhaps the biggest gap of all in the historical record is the fact that everyone from history is dead.

                    1. Shitstain’s mom suggested this was a clever comment. You know how stupid she is, since she didn’t abort shitstain.

                    2. Yeah, he ended up being born. And it was bad. Not only did the doctor slap him but the nurses all got in a few shots too.

                3. “You are objecting to this”.

                  WTF? No I’m not. Where did I say that?

                  You said that anti-CRT people didn’t want white supremacy mentioned. I brought up that provision of the Texas law to point out that you’re full of shit.

                  Admit the point and don’t put. words in my mouth.

        3. “”Facts don’t care about your feelings.””

          Perhaps that’s why the left seems to hate them.

    2. I remember when those running this handle would bitch out its own team when they were being obvious retards. I miss those days.

      1. You think my team is a handful of ethnic academics and their activist 18 year-old students.

        My team is actually anyone interested in preventing fascism in this country. I don’t care about any theories or any obscure activist brain fart. All of those things are being weaponized by the fucking fascists, and they don’t even have to be real.

        1. and they don’t even have to be real.

          You mean your fascist bogeymen? Big of you to admit it.

        2. Does sanctimony have a color? If not I’d like to nominate purple.

          You think my team is a handful of ethnic academics and their activist 18 year-old students.

          Nope. But they’re certainly members of your coalition, and in the current environment it’s the activists which make the party dance.

          My team is actually anyone interested in preventing fascism in this country.

          Then you should be doubly upset at your own side for not just beating a strategic retreat here. The race activists and their (mostly white) hangers-on have really gotten out over their skis by attempting to mainstream a pedagogy in line with their theories, and the end result is likely to be “the fascists” recovering their Congressional majority in the short term and a more active role being taken up by normally-disinterested centrist parents in the long term.

          1. Everyone who’s not a middle-aged FOX News junkie is part of my coalition.

            1. CNN addict shitstain thought this was clever.

              1. Yeah, I don’t know who he thinks he’s getting here. He’s making common cause with people who won’t watch Fox because it’s racist against white people? Uh, great.

        3. All of those things are being weaponized by the fucking fascists,

          It’s always amusing when the fascists pose as anti-fascists.

          It’s often attributed to Huey Long:

          America will have Fascism some day but when we get it we won’t call it Fascism—we’ll call it anti-Fascism.

          1. Antifa is the last thing you have to worry about, both because they are so small as to be irrelevant and because they are the most laser-focused of anyone on not being fascist.

            But you’re right to imply that authoritarianism and genocide can come about via many roads. All you need is a national heritage to protect (best if it’s totally mythologized) and a few vulnerable minorities to blame for all your problems.

            I wonder if you’ll even recognize it when they’re herding trans people into the camps, or if you’ll be cheering it along.

            1. I wonder if shitstain here has ever posted anything which has the slightest acquaintance with facts or the truth.
              Guessing the answer is “no”. Ken didn’t formulate the Tony/turd rule for no reason.

            2. they are the most laser-focused of anyone on not being fascist.

              It’s interesting you still pretend the fascists are not fascists. Reality simply isn’t relevant to leftists.

              Antifa is the last thing you have to worry about, both because they are so small as to be irrelevant

              Facsists are not limited to the street fighters. Fascists include the politicians and activists who ally with them to intimidate others into submission.

              I wonder if you’ll even recognize it when they’re herding trans people into the camps,

              What a loon.

              1. I think you need to bone up on your terminology. You seem confused.

                1. Shitstain here thinks someone else isn’t real smart, but it takes a real effort to be as stoooooooooopid as shitstain.

                2. What do you call a (slight) majority party who spies on and crimimally prosecutes its enemies on the flimsiest of pretexts? Who colludes with oligarchs to censor any opposition voice? Who labels truth as “misinformation” and punishes anyone who dares go near it? We already live in a fascist banana republic, thanks to you and your ilk.

        4. Most people on the left are like Tony. They haven’t rechecked any of their lazy assumptions in years, but they can sense when those assumptions are threatened, in which case they trot out the usual jumble of straw men as though dumping the whole pile on the floor constitutes an argument. Talk about “they don’t even have to be real.”

    3. Gosh Tony, how unsurprising it is to find that you’re in favor of teaching racist garbage like CRT or intersectionality or anti-racism or whatever you want to call this crap. You don’t dislike racism. You’re fine with it as long as it’s aimed at the right people.

      I mean, I went to school in the old south 50 years ago and I learned all about slavery and eminent domain and the whole nine yards. Your take that they’re not teaching it is garbage. An 8 year old white kid today is not responsible for that and should not be taught that he should be ashamed of himself for it.

      You and J.B. Stoner have so much in common.

      1. I’m in favor of university professors teaching whatever the fuck they want to teach. How about you?

        1. University is fine. Students at universities are free to argue back. Or change professors. Or drop the class. Or change schools.

          My objection is K – 12. Those kids are a captive audience.

          1. But none of this is about anything happening in primary schools.

            Republican politicians and their fearmongering media allies just want you to think that.

            Just be sure not to think too hard.

            1. DDG: Foundation for Individual Rights in Education — 13 important points in the campus & K-12 ‘critical race theory’ debate

              #youareanidiot

            2. “A biracial high school student in Las Vegas was allegedly singled out in class for his appearance and called derogatory names by his teacher. In a lawsuit, the student’s family alleges he was labelled an oppressor, told denying that status was “internalized privilege,” and told he needed to “unlearn” the Judeo-Christian principles imparted by his mother. When he refused to complete certain “identity confession” assignments, the lawsuit claims, the school gave him a failing grade. He has had to attend counseling.
              Third grade students in California were forced to analyze their racial and other “identities,” rank themselves according to their supposed “power and privilege,” and were informed that those in the “dominant” culture categories created and continue to maintain this culture to uphold power.
              Parents in North Carolina allege that middle school students were forced to stand up in class and apologize to other students for their “privilege.”
              Buffalo public schools teach students that all white people perpetuate systemic racism and are guilty of implicit racial bias.
              Elementary children at the Fieldston School in Manhattan were sorted by race for mandatory classroom exercises.
              A head teacher in Manhattan was caught on tape acknowledging that the curriculum at his school teaches white students that they’re inherently “evil” and saying, “we’re demonizing white people for being born.”

              1. Please give me a link for that; I’m doing a summary (one per post) of the rebuttals to shitstain, trueman and the lot.

              2. So I have to choose between this and Donald Trump as supreme dictator? Can I just eat a shit sandwich instead?

                If you want state legislatures to spend time worrying about a handful of shitty teachers, let me know which state you’re in so I can come enjoy all the pristine roads and bridges and lack of poverty and crime.

                1. ‘So I have to choose between this and Donald Trump as supreme dictator?…”

                  TDS-addled lefty asshole shitstain seems to hope his claim that Trump was a “dictator” shows something other than shitstain’s idiocy.

                2. Yes, eat a shit sandwich, please, especially if it shuts you up. You present two false dilemmas here: one, that anyone is forcing anyone else to choose between a Trump supreme dictatorship and CRT indoctrination, and two, that addressing CRT indoctrination forces a tradeoff where we can’t have decent roads and bridges or a lack of poverty and crime (as though funding is tied to questioning the indoctrination instead of the indoctrination itself). As usual, you ask loaded questions you don’t care about the answers to (or that don’t even merit a response), and you make the false claim that “a handful of shitty teachers” are driving CRT indoctrination instead of administrators, the government, the media, and various other bad actors. Spasms like this one are the reason you lower the quality of every thread in which you participate. You’re a dunce.

            3. So you think parents are getting arrested at school board meetings because of ….Universities

        2. Brief reminder that this is the same lying faggot who was cheerleading the petition at Harvard to rescind the degrees of graduates who worked for Republican political campaigns and supports firing professors for not toeing the politically correct line.

          1. Come on, be fair. That was like 2 or 3 handlers ago.

          2. You’re a big fat liar, huh?

            1. Asshole shitstain questions whether others are as pathetic has him.

        3. Privately funded universities? I’m fine with that. Not publicly funded ones.

          1. I think academic freedom is important no matter who writes the checks.

            1. Josef Mengele agrees with you.

              1. Once again with the libertarian argument that the big problem with the Nazis was their generous social welfare state.

                1. You need someone else to fund your pet projects. That was the link.
                  The start was the demonizing a race based on pseudo science. Then taking actions against them. Adolf gave Mengele the academic freedom to pursue his research.

                  1. Ah, so the big problem with the Nazis was their liberal academic culture.

                    1. Once again, shitstain proves he can lie in ways his mommy thinks is clever.

                    2. Provide the cite where I mentioned that this was the big problem with national socialists. Without it, just another Citeless Retarded Tony post.

                2. Once again, shitstain proves he can lie in ways his mommy thinks is clever.

        4. I’m in favor of university professors teaching whatever the fuck they want to teach. How about you?

          No. Public funds shouldn’t be used to teach that blacks, women Jews or any other groups are inferior, but obviously left wingers disagree.

          1. I’m for active efforts to suppress fascist propaganda, but subtly active. They’re slippery and they whine a lot.

            1. I’m for active efforts to suppress fascist propaganda,

              If that were true you wouldn’t spend every moment protecting them.

            2. You Are Fascist Propaganda. Its literally all you do

    4. Why do you hate white people?

      1. Because he’s a hicklib faggot who got his ass kicked back in high school for trying to come on to the jocks whose cocks he dreamed of having up his asshole on a nightly basis. It was a quite traumatizing experience for him.

        1. That is rather specific. And graphic.

          1. I doubt he’s wrong. Although I’m sure Tony is a fan of BBC, and I don’t mean British TV programming.

            1. Per yesterday’s CRT article’s comments, he is and it proves he is not racist.

          2. And true!

    5. Here’s the standard gaslighting whenever the left has its agenda challenged in any sort of proactive manner.

    6. Yeah, it’s authoritarian not to allow Marxist authoritarianism to indoctrinate our youth. Get the fuck out of here.

      You are a drone for the authoritarian collective. You are the enemy.

    7. Maybe just go back to the comments from the last few days on various articles and do some reading. Most of your takes were already presented by Jeffy. They were all easily swatted away.

      Unfortunately for you, and this is hard to say, Jeff is actually brighter than you and can at least put forward SOME kind of argument. They are still bad arguments easy to refute, but yours are just a mix of creating farcical strawmen, non-sequiturs, and emotional takes that I would expect from an angry high schooler.

      I think your feels get amped up and you cant think or argue clearly.

  28. Apparently it’s now “silly” to oppose teaching 8 year olds as fact they are oppressing their friends.

    students of history study communism and fascism, not because those were good ideas, but because it’s important to learn why they failed.

    I see there’s no idiotic left wing talking point Robby can’t adopt. No one objects to studying CRT in this way. They object to operationalizing it inside schools in the same way we would object to teaching Nazism in schools. Apparently Robby and the left believe teaching Jews they are less than human must be allowed in the name of academic freedom. It seems wrong to me but when your only goal is defending the left under any circumstance it leads you to strange conclusions.

    1. “Apparently Robby and the left believe teaching Jews they are less than human must be allowed in the name of academic freedom.”

      Citations or justifications please, hate-spewing warmonger!

      To understand evil better (and to see that it SURE doesn’t lead to blessedness or happiness), read M. Scott Peck, “People of the Lie, the Hope for Healing Human Evil”, https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
      People who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. Peck demonstrates the havoc these people of the lie work in the lives of those around them. He presents, from vivid incidents encountered in his psychiatric practice, examples of evil in everyday life.

      1. Citations or justifications please, hate-spewing warmonger!

        The article. From which he quoted. It’s that italicized text on the line just above the one you quoted, sarcasmic. Try sober posting for once in your life.

        1. “…Jews they are less than human…”

          Did Robbie write that, or did MatildaBahnFuhrer (or her fellow NAZIs) write that?

          MatildaBahnFuhrer said that she likes to drink the blood of any REAL human babies (as opposed to the blood of her fellow RussiaBots). Alex Jones said so, it must be true!

      2. I agree with you–people who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. This describes all the scummy, antifa/blm types perfectly. And the entire regressive left.

    2. He does not seem to disagree with the heart of the anti-CRT argument, he just seems to be embarrassed by people actually resisting it.

      1. he just seems to be embarrassed by people actually resisting it.

        Many libertarians accept and internalize the left’s assertions that the right is driven only by racism and related sinful isms. So part of their sense of self is distancing themselves from the right in all cases no matter how flimsy the “best” justification they can find turns out to be.

      2. Yes, Woketarians have no enemies on the Left, because of the icky conservatards on the other side and what Jerry Falwell said in the 1980s

  29. Another one bites the dust.

    1. Another one eats rabbit turds! I thought that it was working for ya?

      1. I’m surprised at the irrelevant post about eating shit from squirrel.

        1. “Another one bites the dust” is a Deep and Thoughtful post, then, unlike my irrelevant response?

          You will now perhaps tell us more about how many farts you farted today, and how many “smart pills” you ate?

          1. This piece of self-centered shit assumes people should wade though heaps of his bullshit, hoping to find one worthwhile comment.
            Hint, spastic, nothing you post is worth reading a sentence, assuming you accidentally put one together.
            Fuck off and die: 22 spaz flags.

            1. You shouldn’t say ‘heaps of his bullshit’. You’re making him hungry.

            2. “This piece of self-centered shit assumes people should wade though heaps of his bullshit…”

              Are you self-aware? Project much? Do you not realize that you just described yourself? Bullshit = trolling-hatred, for you specifically!

              Sociobiologists are ON to the likes of you! Here, read about yourself!

              http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/

  30. Seems like kind of a paradox. CRT being force fed from an inherently racist school system to begin with. Just because FDR redlined your grandparents doesn’t mean you should have to attend inner city cesspool, but in 2021 Joe, Randi and the AFT still continue to deny equal opportunity. Maybe CRT will backfire but I’m guessing they’ll leave out this little tidbit.

    1. CRT is socially acceptable racism. It’s even structural racism, in that it’s embedded in and propagated by many of the structures of our society. This is one of the reasons a structural critique of our society is indeed urgently necessary, but the main group opposing the articulation of any such critique are the people who shout “structural racism” from every rooftop. Our brownshirts are so oppressed and have it so very hard.

    1. As were Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, the KKK, ISIS, etc.
      This isn’t godwin-ing: these monsters explicitly framed and sold their philosophies as social justice, for the time and environment (aka context) each was within, and stoked anger, resentment, and hatred within their populations by recasting those feelings/motives as the moral good.
      This is exactly what the left is doing today, and CRT is a facet of that.

  31. It is truly remarkable, even for these very strange times, to realize that on the one hand we are told not to use “triggering words” around college students, that words are violence, that they can cause actual physical harm and yet here we are discussing the idea that grade school children, eight and nine year olds, must be told to be ashamed or at least guilty for their skin color, that any achievement the attain is ill gotten. That type of speech is fine, indeed must be used.
    This is really a form of cruelty, of meanness to children who are incapable of understanding these ideas. The political right can play dirty, very dirty, but there’s a special type of meanness on the left that is different. We see it here.

    1. What the left is doing, is child abuse.

  32. Kendi’s big idea is to create a U.S. Department of Antiracism. “The DOA would be responsible for preclearing all local, state and federal public policies to ensure they won’t yield racial inequity, monitor those policies, investigate private racist policies when racial inequity surfaces, and monitor public officials for expressions of racist ideas,”

    Isn’t it revealing how much of the old Soviet system these left wing academics admire. Americans of all parties used to despise apparatchiks as a trait of a totalitarian system.

    1. “…Kendi’s big idea is to create a U.S. Department of Antiracism…”

      Policed by the US Dept of Acceptable Thought.

  33. It’s depressing to see usually astute individuals dance around the issue of CRT, hemming and hawing for nuance.

    If CRT is a theory, then it should be taught as a course in an university setting, where older students have passed (well, at least some of them) their formative years are capable of independent thought and will not automatically defer to opinions from adult figures. Would you let some immigration “restrictionist” theories to be taught to 8 year olds, creating a world in their minds where illegals are potentially dangerous criminals?

    And if the theory has no substance, then it should not be taught in an academic setting at all. Can someone explain to me how a nation where racism is baked into every aspect of society can sustain a foreign population of nearly 40%? All the migrants crowding our borders are non white, and they would rather not settle in at Mexico.

    America is not even 300 years old, meaning slavery, feudalism and ethnic and religious genocide have existed in some countries 5 times longer than the lifespan of the nation. Japan didn’t modernize until about the early 1900s. That’s how FUCKING LONG some of these countries have been stuck in the dark ages.

    In fact CRT would make more sense in non white world, which still deals with old world legacies and ethnic purism. Its perfectly kosher for a Japanese landlord not to accept applications from foreigners, even if they were contracted by government. Most of Asia has strict quotas on positions and salaries for foreigners.

    1 + 2 will always equal 3. “That would be a non issue if we had more school choices” is not a position grounded in REASON. Again, if you DON’T think every white kid in class is a potential racist, must be trained and drilled by government to purge them of their potential racism, and must told to think their society is inherently racist, then you DON’T want CRT to be taught.

    1. Japan modernized after we blew them up

      1. Yeah, they had shitty non-modern aircraft and naval vessels before we dropped bombs on them.

  34. A core value of all critical theories is the absolute and permanent hierarchies of power in whatever race, gender, colonial, etc. structures they imagine. And they categorically reject any libertarian or classic liberal values like equal rights and individual liberties, not to mention objective facts and reason.

    So maybe we should not ban an idea, but we should sure as hell ban any proposed policies that seek special rights for arbitrary groups and subjugation of individuals to statist racists.

    1. to ban the idea means first banning stupidity.

      ” the sun wont come up tomorrow…tomorrow…”

    2. The people who equate the directing that CRT principles not be taught to schoolchildren with the “banning” of CRT are fundamentally dishonest.

      That includes Robby.

      He and his ilk avoid the fact that we have no need to “ban” the teaching of Nazism because nobody is teaching anyone to be a Nazi.

      Which is simply not the case with the current teaching of CRT. That the Twit elides this simple reality again points up his dishonesty.

  35. there are two big problems with CRT. first, it is given too much credit….. with few notable exceptions, like the difference between crack and powdered cocaine in our criminal justice system, it is not this glaring difference they seem to think it is.

    but more important, is the fact that those who push it do so to drive racial tensions instead of calling for the problems to be fixed. they want to create special treatments instead of fixing the different treatments under the system. they don’t campaign to end the drug war or equalize the penalties… they ask for reparations, while leaving the broken system in place.

    1. “is the fact that those who push it do so to drive racial tensions instead of calling for the problems to be fixed.”

      The activists behind groups like BLM are not liberals. They are radicals, more radical than Americans are used to. They want a transformation of society. Their goals far exceed fixing problems. Or that to fix the problems, society will have to be transformed. BLM is playing for keeps and will likely win in the end if history and the current culture has anything to tell us. Choose your side carefully.

      1. Yet they are allies of the democrat party, which launders money for them. What does that tell you about the democrats?

        1. “What does that tell you about the democrats?”

          They’ve chosen their side. Be careful when you choose yours.

      2. They want to transform tennis shoes in a shop window into tennis shoes on their feet.

        1. Shoes on feet? The horror!

          1. So you supported the looting? Did you participate in them? If so, where and when?

            1. Of course I support looting. In moderation. I’ve written about this before in these comments. Looting shouldn’t be an end in itself but a stepping stone to more inspired, radical and inclusive confrontation with the state. The Boston Tea party is a good example except for the part about dressing like Indians which is just cowardly cultural appropriation in my books.

              1. Did the BLM protesters throw the tennis shoes into the harbor or just keep them?

                1. I’ll leave it to you to ponder that one.

            2. trueman most often has no idea what his ‘throw away line’ mean; some one at some time in his life told him his stupid comments were ‘clever’ and he still believes it.

              1. Could have been his CRT professor.

              2. He, like many sophists, confuses his ignorant comments with fact and worse, humor. One wonders if he would accept being robbed and beaten by the correct sort of people, for the correct cause. A mugging to advance the good of humanity? Murder for the good of mankind? As long as there was no ‘cultural appropriation,’ of course.

  36. “It would thus be naive to assume that supposedly race-neutral policies are actually race-neutral—there’s nothing neutral about America and race.”

    You call this an “assumption” but surely it is a REASONABLE assumption, correct? But you seem to side completely with those opposed to anything even remotely connected with CRT and dismiss the idea that “anti-discrimination” laws and policies might be nothing of the sort. Ending on an old libertarian trope about school choice was the finishing touch for this shit sandwich. It seems you’re willing to throw the antiracist baby out with the bathwater rather than admit that your hands-off libertarian approach would be almost certain to make racism in America WORSE, not better.

    1. So, use institutional racism to fix racism?

      1. to borrow a saying- “two wrongs dont make a right, but two rights make a Left turn”

      2. How about we simply allow college students to learn about the history of racism first?

        1. Right now college students and anybody else can study any topic they wish.

        2. How about we simply allow college students to learn about the history of racism first?

          Nothing prevents this, it’s revealing to note how easily you and the leftist braintrust lie.

          Allowing left wingers to “teach” history resulted in their developing an entire historical fiction such as that the American Revolution was fought to protect slavery. It has the one unfortunate drawback that none of it is true but you’re already proven repeatedly that isn’t a concern of yours.

          1. That’s just why the South took part.

            1. That’s just why the South took part.

              Stupidly wrong. But this is how propaganda works. You prove your loyalty by believing stupid shit.

              1. The South, famously aghast at the notion of continuing the institution of slavery.

                1. See how poor your thinking ability is? Because they supported slavery it proves they joined the American Revolution to protect it?

                  It’s hard to believe people really are stupid enough to say this like this in public.

                2. ‘The Democrats, famously aghast at the notion of continuing the institution of slavery.’

                  Fixed it for shitstain.

              2. We could each go consult primary sources to determine to what extent, if any, maintaining the institution of slavery in the South motivated Southern states to join the Revolution, but the question I find interesting is why you care about this specific thing. It’s not like you’re protecting the South’s honor. The Revolution notwithstanding, they worked pretty far into the evening to keep that particular institution around. That stain’s gonna be there a while.

                So what is it? You want children to learn the happy minutemen with brave Paul Revere and Washington with his cherry tree version of events? You think children need to be fed saccharine with sugar on top instead of the ugly truth?

                Is it that you actually believe the kindergarten narrative, perhaps need to believe it for emotional reasons?

                Or is it that you’re afraid that living black people might convince enough of a voting population to secure themselves rights they aren’t entitled to? (Heaven forbid someone have a leg up in this country, at least the moment they start agitating for it, right?)

                Is it that you’re a historian who knows better than the historians whose histories you don’t like? Where’d you get your PhD? Maybe we know some of the same people.

                1. You think children need to be fed saccharine with sugar on top instead of the ugly truth?

                  Not at all. Children should definitely be taught about all the people that leftists have killed since the French Revolution.

                  1. You’d like that wouldn’t you.

                    I am just fine with them learning about how America kills Nazis, no matter how much you keep trying to get it to emulate them.

                    1. Like when the national socialists made private industry state-controlled pr when they put forth a horrific race theory to justify demonizing that race?

                    2. No how they claimed the majority culture was under threat by some minority culture that was simultaneously all-powerful and lazy and incompetent.

                    3. “I am just fine with them learning about how America kills Nazis, no matter how much you keep trying to get it to emulate them.”

                      Shitstain here tries misdirection from the 100,000,000 innocents murdered by the commies over the last century (and counting), hopes that ignoramuses like him will focus on the the Germans who died in their war of aggression.
                      It’s been clear for quite a while that shitstain *is* an ignoramus regarding history, but no one can make is quite as clear as shitstain posting it himself.

                    4. Go read the stab in the back theory. It has as much validity as other critical race theories but nonetheless was a rallying cry.

                  2. You’d like that wouldn’t you.

                    Huh, suddenly there’s an objection to the ugly truth being taught. Funny, that.

                    I am just fine with them learning about how America kills Nazis, no matter how much you keep trying to get it to emulate them.

                    I know I’ve struck a nerve when you regress to your limbic-brained “facist!” screech.

                    1. It’s just that you’re using the same words and phrases the Nazis did in their propaganda.

                    2. “It’s just that you’re using the same words and phrases the Nazis did in their propaganda.”

                      First, shitstain could never find a cite to support that claim, since it’s bullshit.
                      Secondly, this from a supporter of the regimes which have probably murdered more innocents than the total of human wars.
                      Shitstain is certainly both stupid and dishonest, but more importantly, he’s a human totally bereft of principle, historical knowledge, and any sort of imaginable morality.
                      This pathetic piece of shit would happily have you murdered by the government in an instant for calling him on his bullshit.

                    3. It’s just that you’re using the same words and phrases the Nazis did in their propaganda.

                      Of course that’s what a commie would say.

                2. but the question I find interesting is why you care about this specific thing.

                  I support truth. By contrast you and the other leftists think it best to invent whatever supports your political agenda.

                  You think children need to be fed saccharine with sugar on top instead of the ugly truth?

                  You don’t support truth, ugly or not, you support lies. So the better question is why do you support this particular lie?

                  Or is it that you’re afraid that living black people might convince enough of a voting

                  I’m shocked you’d imply any objection to left wing fantasies is driven by racism. Whoever could have seen that coming?

                  Is it that you’re a historian who knows better than the historians whose histories you don’t like?

                  There are no historians making this assertion. Hannah Jones is a journalist and political activist. She ignored the historians she worked with because the truth didn’t suit her political agenda. It’s quite enlightening you’re so ignorant you don’t know this yet remain so completely certain everyone else is wrong. The defining characteristic of the left is this combination of complete ignorance and absolute certainty.

                  Maybe we know some of the same people.

                  It seems unlikely, I generally ignore useless people and given your ideas they seem to be the only people you interact with.

                  1. Speaking of complete ignorance and absolute certainty, could you give me a brief thumbnail sketch of what critical race theory is?

                    1. When all else fails fall back on definitional distractions, right? The key to understanding where we are is the implicit admission all else has failed.

                      But if you want to get back to basics so you can forget just how clearly you revealed how little you understand why don’t we go back to your original (albeit idiotic) claim that somehow teaching the history of racism is being banned.

                    2. “Definitional distractions” is what you call understanding the subject of every conversation happening on this page?

                    3. “Definitional distractions” is what you call understanding the subject of every conversation happening on this page?..”

                      Not far from here, shitstain admits he knows nothing about it, but continues to support it.
                      If it weren’t for stupid, shitstain wouldn’t be much at all.

                    4. could you give me a brief thumbnail sketch of what critical race theory is?

                      “Everything bad is the fault of white people.”

                    5. “Definitional distractions” is what you call understanding the subject of every conversation happening on this page?

                      Stupidly wrong. We’re talking about the racial discrimination those who engage in it claim is supported by CRT. You’re whining that their claim it is justified by CRT doesn’t make the actual discrimination part of CRT. Your entire position is irrelevant since the discrimination is the problem regardless of what they call it or whether it is justified by CRT. You’re trying to mis-label our concerns because you know the media will ensure the ignorant masses who make up your base will only hear the left’s narrative and continue believing this bullshit. This is how activists protect the team.

                    6. Aka “that’s not real CRT”

                3. Another false dilemma: Endorse the lies and distortions of the 1619 Project or believe a “kindergarten narrative” about United States history (as though the historians, fact checkers, and others who have publicly objected to the 1619 Project have been concerned there isn’t enough there about midnight rides and cherry trees).

                  The claim that CRT involves “rights” black people are being denied they are “entitled to”: Which rights? Denied by whom? How?

                  Tony finishes up with a lazy appeal to authority, because only PhDs in history can comment on the merit of obvious political narratives posing as neutral expositions of historical fact. But to this point: Does Tony have a PhD in history? Also, is he aware that Nikole Hannah-Jones doesn’t have a PhD in history herself, and she doesn’t have above an MA in journalism, her actual field? Is he aware that the 1619 Project won a Pulitzer Prize for Commentary, not History? Does he think you need a PhD to comment on something?

                  1. What are Tucker Carlson’s credentials?

        3. How about we purge all the marxists from college faculties and administration. Then rewrite lol curriculum to be anti Marxist? That would be a huge benefit for this country.

          1. Do fake Indian law professors get to keep their jobs?

  37. The best thing we can all hope for with regard to CRT is sunlight. All the country needs is daily articles about this Marxist, racist, extremist indoctrination to get the pushback needed.

    Every day they are seeing that regular people wont have this hateful, racist garbage taught to their children.

    1. Did you know Biden was about to put a picture of Harriet Tubman, a black female proto Marxist woman, on the $20 bill? Whatever will we tell our children? We simply can’t stand by and watch them turn her into the newer, duskier George Washington. When will history ever stop!!!

      1. GFY tard

        1. The reverse side of the new bill will feature a watermelon patch and a pop-eyed dice thrower just to spite our non critical race theorists.

          1. More likely to satisfy Biden. He’s a huge racist.

          2. Harry Reid approves.

          3. GFY, tard.

      2. How stupid are leftists to pretend this is the objection? What a fucking idiot.

        1. It will be. Wait until the new bill is disseminated. I’ve learned never to underestimate how petty and mean spirited America’s reactionaries can be.

          1. It will be.

            It’s revealing you cite your fantasies as evidence.

            I’ve learned never to underestimate how petty and mean spirited America’s reactionaries can be.

            Targeting your enemies children isn’t petty or mean spirited though. That’s why you lie about the nature of the objection to protect their efforts, because it’s no big deal.

            1. “because it’s no big deal”

              I agree. So why all the fuss? Find yourself a country without blacks if they scare you so much. Whinging about it to me will get you nowhere.

              1. Find yourself a country without blacks if they scare you so much.

                Whoever would have guessed a left winger would imply without evidence any disagreement with them is racist? It’s the last refuge of people who know they’re wrong but can’t admit it.

                1. In America, race is baked into every issue of consequence. I don’t care if it’s education, medicine, justice, housing, you name it, there’s a racial angle to it. I don’t see this as controversial. Rather it seems glaringly obvious. If you don’t like it, find yourself a country where it’s no longer something to bother you.

                  1. “In America, race is baked into every issue of consequence…”

                    Trueman admits to being a racist.
                    GFY, ‘tard.

                  2. The intellectual bankruptcy of left wingers is astounding. Here he claims objecting to racism is somehow fear of blacks. When this profoundly illogical claim is highlighted he pretends the issue is that race exists, which is also absurdly unfounded. They can’t think at all which results in this lurching from one supposed justification to another as each in turn is proven not just false but completely absurd.

                    Yet throughout this complete intellectual failure they continue to believe in their own infallibility. They’re a joke and this is what our “education” system produces because those who run it value political loyalty above anything else. As such all they teach is to call everyone who disagrees with them racist.

                    1. ” Here he claims objecting to racism is somehow fear of blacks.”

                      You’ve misunderstood. I haven’t claimed that and they are two different things.

                    2. You’ve misunderstood. I haven’t claimed that and they are two different things.

                      Of course you did. You implied my objections to racial discrimination prove I’m afraid of blacks here:

                      Find yourself a country without blacks if they scare you so much.

                      I’m sure you impress yourself with word games, but decent people recognize they prove your dishonesty.

                2. They also commonly assume people who disagree with them are afraid of black people. Almost makes you wonder if they’re projecting? CRT teaches black children that white people all hate them (regardless of what white people actually say or do), this country hates them, and they can never succeed on their own merits. These ideas are designed to prevent trust, lower ambitions, foster dependence, and breed animosity. CRT is racist in how it treats white children as evil oppressors. But what it does to children of color is far more damaging, because in the CRT framing, at least white people have agency.

                  1. The above comment meant to be a reply to Marshal, not mtrueman’s bullshit.

          2. Idiot, you’re the reactionary. You really are a moron. So many stupid notions form you on every subject.

            1. If you want the good stuff, you have to pay for it.

              1. “If you want the good stuff, you have to pay for it.”

                You don’t have any.
                GFY, ‘tard.

          3. GFY, tard.

      3. “”Whatever will we tell our children?””

        That she was a gun owner?

      4. Nice strawman you’ve built there, but this is not what the debate is about.

        Thanks for playing. Your comrades are trying to gaslight people into thinking this is what people are fighting. Thanks for highlighting exactly what a dishonest person would put forward.

  38. The Fuck you cant ban it. You most certainly can and should ban the government teaching it. It is most likely illegal to do so.

    1. TN did.

      1. Relevant text from the TN law:

        This amendment also prohibits any LEA or public charter school from including or promoting the following concepts as part of a course of instruction or in a curriculum or instructional program, or allowing teachers or other employees of the LEA or public charter school to use supplemental instructional materials that include or promote the following concepts:

        (1) One race or sex is inherently superior to another race or sex;

        (2) An individual, by virtue of the individual’s race or sex, is inherently privileged, racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or subconsciously;

        (3) An individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment because of the individual’s race or sex;

        (4) An individual’s moral character is determined by the individual’s race or sex;

        (5) An individual, by virtue of the individual’s race or sex, bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex;

        (6) An individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or another form of psychological distress solely because of the individual’s race or sex;

        (7) A meritocracy is inherently racist or sexist, or designed by a particular race or sex to oppress members of another race or sex;

        (8) This state or the United States is fundamentally or irredeemably racist or sexist;

        (9) Promoting or advocating the violent overthrow of the United States government;

        (10) Promoting division between, or resentment of, a race, sex, religion, creed, nonviolent political affiliation, social class, or class of people; or

        (11) Ascribing character traits, values, moral or ethical codes, privileges, or beliefs to a race or sex, or to an individual because of the individual’s race or sex.

        This amendment does not prohibit an LEA or public charter school from including, as part of a course of instruction or in a curriculum or instructional program, or from allowing teachers or other employees of the LEA or public charter school to use supplemental instructional materials that include:

        (1) The history of an ethnic group, as described in textbooks and instructional materials adopted in accordance with present law concerning textbooks and instructional materials;

        (2) The impartial discussion of controversial aspects of history;

        (3) The impartial instruction on the historical oppression of a particular group of people based on race, ethnicity, class, nationality, religion, or geographic region; or

        (4) Historical documents that are permitted under present law, such as the national motto, the national anthem, the state and federal constitutions, state and federal laws, and supreme court decisions.

        Nowhere in the law does ‘Critical Race Theory’ appear, nor does anything in the above text prevent schools from teaching about CRT.

        What it effectively does is prevent schools from attempting to indoctrinate children in the tenets of Critical Race Theory.

  39. “Practically no one agrees on—or even appears to understand—what CRT is and how far it has spread.”

    .Typical for Commie Left Dog Whistle Talking Points.

    They have no meaning. They sound sophisticated and the Useful Idiots, uneducated say ” wow that sounds sophisticated, it must be true.”

    It also helps when they lie repeatedly, and create memories…

    1. Invented memories, then burned all the books.

  40. “This proposal would necessitate the creation of a vast surveillance state and render the First Amendment moot” Methinks it might render all the Amendments moot. Like all Collectivism.

  41. Once again, Reason concedes the field and plays by their rules.

  42. Who gives a crap what it’s called, let’s look at their reaction when people try to stop them from teaching their BS in elementary and high schools.

    Let some state legislature ban the teaching of racist doctrine, or the doctrine that America is racist, and people rush out to scream about how awful those legislators are. Almost as if the legislation touched them at a sore point. If they aren’t teaching racist and anti-American doctrine, why should they worry? “Let the galled jade wince; our withers are unwrung.” (sp?)

    But their reaction to these bills isn’t “lol I’m happy to support that because I never teach that stuff,” it’s “how dare they pass this horrible bill!”

    To be sure (TM), some of these bill go too far with their politically-correct attempt to root out “sex discrimination,” which would mean teachers can’t tell boys to behave chivalrously to women. One might think that, simply because the bills contain such silly provisions, the leftist crowd would be more, not less supportive.

    “David French is also correct that civil rights law already provides a potential avenue for students to sue school districts that have fostered a racially hostile and discriminatory climate. If the thinking behind “aspects of white supremacy culture” is put into practice in schools, those schools can be sued.”

    Should the states repeal all their anti-racism laws on the ground that there’s already a federal law on the subject? Anyway, a clarifying law to make specific what’s forbidden would be useful.

    After you strip out the stuff about sex.

    1. None of the laws coming out of Republican legislatures is about anything but switching on the amygdalae of their voting base. They don’t care about any of this. They know this isn’t real.

      Well, some of them are inmates running the asylum, and that’s going to become increasingly a problem for them. Marjorie Taylor-Greene is fully in the soup, for example.

      If you deny the reality of climate change but spend time dictating what professors are allowed to teach, you need to get out of legislating and into some career more suited to your temperament, like mall cop.

      1. Are you carbon neutral?

        1. Do I have to be carbon neutral before you permit yourself to believe in scientific facts?

          1. You don’t k ow a fucking thing about science you stupid bitch. You’re on the ignorant side of everything. Phony climate change, epidemiology, transsexualism, etc.. you’re a woke Luddite idiot.

            As sociopaths go, you are not very bright. It’s just a pity you’re alive.

          2. We occasionally write flood mitigation studies for our clients and joke about how bad the past SLR predictions were. Am still waiting on FEMA to produce the surge elevation data for their 100-year BFE numbers so that can be deducted from the SLOSH surge data for the coastal communities. The Earth is either entering an ice age or coming out of one.

            Am guessing you aren’t carbon neutral even though you believe in CAGW. So you believe this is a big issue but continue to contribute to it.

            1. I’m not sure we’re on the same page about what belief in proportion to evidence means. There’s a lot that can go wrong in specific measurements before you invalidate a well-established scientific narrative, especially if you don’t have an alternative.

              But your idea seems not to be that you have an alternate explanation for rising global average temperatures, but that you deny that’s happening at all. So what you need is competing evidence. I’ll just be here waiting for your link to that.

              1. You clearly didn’t comprehend what I wrote.

                And it sounds like you support CAGW. Not the theory but its occurrence. Why are you working against the efforts of us carbon neutral folks? Are you addicted to making carbon pollution?

                1. I’m pretty carbon neutral. Is the world saved now?

                  1. So that is a “no.” Thanks.

                    1. So your argument is that it’s OK to destroy the habitable environment of the planet if someone, somewhere isn’t doing his 1/7,000,000,000th part?

                      It’s ape morality all the way down with you people.

                  2. “I’m pretty carbon neutral. Is the world saved now?”

                    Shitstain has no idea what a term means, claims it anyhow.

                    1. Yeah, I’m pretty carbon neutral. It’s not even that expensive.

                      I just think it’s kind of a bullshit concept. Nobody availing himself of modern human civilization is really carbon neutral, no matter how much wind-farm funny money he may purchase.

          3. “Do I have to be carbon neutral before you permit yourself to believe in scientific facts?”

            Shitstain here pulls the fake ‘scientific facts’ figleaf over his naked stupidity.

            1. The facts were wrong but because a group of folks that get paid more and gain more notoriety if they say they facts, that makes is true.

      2. Well, Tony, should public schools teach racist doctrines? Should they teach that America is racist? If not, should there be laws against it.

        Let’s spare your amygdala by saying that all politicians are corrupt. Are these laws a good idea or not?

        1. I don’t think legislatures should be dictating the curricula of institutions of higher learning, no.

          1. And the elementary and secondary public schools?

            1. Legislatures set standards, but it’s usually some grandstanding assholery when they try to get involved in making the actual curricula.

              1. Shitstain here seems to hope the rest of us don’t see his blatant misdirection.
                Shitstain is stooooooooopid in many ways.

                1. “Chaff and redirect.” It is what guilty folks do under interrogation.

          2. So there’s no need to limp out when they do it for primary or secondary schools, since those are under the purview of the state.

            1. But this conversation isn’t about those kinds of schools. You keep wanting to make it that way, but it isn’t, except in the fevered shrieking hysterical voids where brains are supposed to be inside the heads of rightwing propagandists.

              1. But this conversation isn’t about those kinds of schools.

                Sure it is, you’re just deflecting.

                You keep wanting to make it that way, but it isn’t, except in the fevered shrieking hysterical voids where brains are supposed to be inside the heads of rightwing propagandists.

                Stop lying.

                1. “But this conversation isn’t about those kinds of schools. You keep wanting to make it that way, but it isn’t,…”

                  Shitstain here hopes someone is stupid enough to buy his bullshit.

  43. Yes, parents can ban CRT at the schools their kids attend.
    Period
    School curriculums are not free speech

    1. Most people in college are 18 and over, so I don’t see why parents should have much of a say.

      1. Not unless they’re paying. Or I suppose the kids can always get a loan from Uncle Sam the loan shark.

        Or work.

        1. And how much say should the government have if they are paying for it? Or subsiding it.

          I’m oddly going to agree with Tony on this one. Parents shouldn’t have a say in a college’s curriculum. If parents don’t like what the school teaches, then they can choose another school or let the kid pay for it themselves.

          1. Sure, but next we should consider what authority legislatures have over government-run elementary and high schools.

          2. I’m sorry, but the left haven’t been champions of freedom of speech lately, “letting a million flowers bloom” in the land of intellectual discourse and public conversation.

            It’s a bit rich for the people who think the first amendment doesn’t apply to hate speech to turn around and claim freedom of expression against laws targeting government education on the grounds of racism. If teaching racism isn’t hate speech, what is?

            If leftists don’t like where the bans on hate speech are going, maybe they should reevaluate their position on that.

        2. You’re jumping on a distraction. I don’t think it has any real value in education aside from as a test of one’s logical faculties in elaborating on the true nature of it and arguing against the racist and collectivist theory. However, in that sense it is only worth introduction in a proper college course and is certainly not to be addressed as truth.
          All that said, it is a distraction to claim that this is about marxist college professors indoctrinating adult students with racism. The issue is that they are teaching and applying the principles of CRT to k-12 public schools uncritically. That is brainwashing and propaganda funded by taxpayers. Even worse is that in places like Loudon county it is being implemented against the will of the taxpayers funding the schools and the parents of children effected by it.
          It isn’t just a shitty idea being debated at an appropriate level. It is an illogical and frankly evil mentality being forced on children against the will of the people who are supposed to have a say in it.

  44. “Working from this assumption, adherents of critical race theory tend toward a kind of progressive activism that views post-Enlightenment classical liberalism and its notions of equal opportunity, the prioritization of individual rights over group rights, and colorblindness with hostility.”

    And you’ve stumbled upon exactly why I hate CRT. Gee, turns out I was right all along, no matter how many times leftists say I don’t understand it.

    1. So someone has a disagreement with you about ethical systems. No need to get the force of law involved.

      1. Yet the force of law is used to fund the institutions you want to be teaching CRT.

        1. I want universities to teach all sorts of things. Everything worthy of being taught, in fact.

          1. “I want universities to teach all sorts of things. Everything worthy of being taught, in fact.”

            Shitstain here is supporting creationism and is too stupid to understand that.
            Ken nailed it: The Tony/turd rule. These assholes and others have not the mental abilities to even understand when they are lying; the concept of an objective reality is a mystery to them.
            If it exists between their ears, it’s every bit as real as a car wreck. Until they get into one.

            1. Phi beta kappa?

              1. “Phi beta kappa?”

                And editor of “Dog Walker’s Weekly” in the River Pines gated community.
                Ken nailed it: The Tony/turd rule. These assholes and others have not the mental abilities to even understand when they are lying; the concept of an objective reality is a mystery to them.
                If it exists between their ears, it’s every bit as real as a car wreck. Until they get into one.

                1. “All the experts disagree with me, and that makes me sad! Kill all the experts!”

      2. Exactly.

        If only they would show me that courtesy.

    2. I don’t even know how you get there:

      1. The systems of the United States are racist, stretching back to the founding of the government in 1619.
      2…
      3. So individualism is bad!
      4. Profit!

      Gee, what a shock that the new CRT leads to the same leftist endgame for the last century or so.

      If that’s appealing to you, you’re retarded.

      1. Collectivist claims are all people like Kendi have. They aren’t talented or interesting as individuals, but as shameless collectivist shills they have value and can rise very high within progressive systems of patronage.

        1. Kendi is the left’s answer to Glenn Beck. IOW a huckster and grifter.

  45. My problem with the news laws is that they are unnecessary. Teaching that white skin makes you an oppressor is discrimination and as such violates the Civil Rights Acts if taught in schools or businesses. Anyone so teaching or who arranges for such programs should be prosecuted for Civil Rights violations.

    1. See my comment above.

    2. You keep objecting to something that isn’t happening. If you keep doing that, one might get the impression that you aren’t interested in correcting the mistaken things you say.

      1. And you keep defensing something you say isn’t happening.

  46. You keep objecting to something that isn’t happening.

    It’s interesting we have training materials, witness testimony, and video showing it does happen. Your assertion it doesn’t reflects that reality conflicts with your political wishes you believe reality is wrong. That’s the nature of left wingers who live in their own little fantasy worlds.

    1. Citation requested.

      1. You know you are the last person on here that has any moral ground to request that. The only thing you deserve is for him to change the subject like you do all the time.

        You made that bed. Don’t bitch about my comment.

        Do the work yourself.

        1. Sounds like you don’t have a cite.

          1. Citeless Retarded Tony. CRT.

            1. If you believe Tucker Carlson so much, why don’t you confidently cite him as a source?

              1. I have literally seen 5 whole minutes of Tucker Carlson in my entire life. Iirc it was regarding that govt official that shit himself during a COVID press conference. Not sure how germane that would be here.

                1. I asked for a citation because I want to learn.

                  1. Shitstain here claims he ‘want’s to learn’!
                    Hey we all needed some comic relief!

                  2. You want a citation to a source that I have seen once for a total of a cup of coffee and one that you actually referenced?

                  3. Stated in bad faith, but National Review’s Ryan Mills has done a good amount of non-sensationalist journalism on the subject, including at the local level.

                    I would start here and then move into his archives:

                    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/teachers-see-progress-conservative-parents-see-racism-the-battle-for-public-education-arrives-in-red-america/

                    1. I think you want to see children being taught the Euro-centric fairy tale and not a more factual narrative of history that includes black and brown experiences. I think that’s what this is about. Fear that your culture may not be as magical and beautiful as you were taught when you were 10 years old.

                      And that’s OK. You’re only human. Just stop saying things like “They believe all white people are evil!” That’s not so, and if it is, they are obviously wrong. We wouldn’t want a ridiculous hysterical straw man to get in the way of examining history with a critical lens.

                    2. That whole comment just proves the bad faith I accused you of. Thanks for confirming.

                      I think you want to see children being taught the Euro-centric fairy tale and not a more factual narrative of history that includes black and brown experiences.

                      This is flat-out false, and a lazy strawman to boot.

                      I think that’s what this is about. Fear that your culture may not be as magical and beautiful as you were taught when you were 10 years old.

                      By the time I was ten years old we were all perfectly aware of our own savagery. History and perspectives are not the subject of the controversy.

                      Just stop saying things like “They believe all white people are evil!” That’s not so, and if it is, they are obviously wrong.

                      ORLY? The whole point is that it’s obviously wrong to you and me because we were taught to pursue a colorblind ideal – an ideal which is under attack by the people you’re defending.

              2. Shitstain here expects us to accept his fantasies as cites, demanding same of others:

                “Critical race theory battle invades school boards — with help from conservative groups
                In towns nationwide, well-connected conservative activists, and Fox News, have ramped up the tension in fights over race and equity in schools.”
                https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/critical-race-theory-invades-school-boards-help-conservative-groups-n1270794

                Of course, like that hag’s VRWC claims, it’s blamed on those not promoting it.

          2. You didn’t ask me for a cite dumbass. So why would I have one for you?

  47. There’s a new documentary titled Better Left Unsaid, about how the woke ideology is often a precursor to genocide.

    The leftists should not be taken lightly. This is not a time for muh private companies, or we can’t ban CRT BS. Anyone that values freedom must stand against this hateful crap.

    1. Link, pleasr; see below

    2. Better left unsaid is right.

      “This is the first time race and gender have ever been politicized! There’s an oppressive culture of woke-ism now, all of a sudden, right at the very moment the first white man got ostracized for finger-raping an actress.

      All that banning women from polite society for having sex out of wedlock or wearing clothes above the ankle… that’s not politics or woke, that’s just God’s order.

      Similarly, why all the politicization of race? Things were so much more genteel back when race wasn’t politicized in the 15th through mid-20th centuries.

      1. Tf you talking about, comrade? You mad that people aren’t letting you gaslight them anymore?

        Seriously, why are you a leftist?

        1. That it suddenly becomes a problem to put people’s liberties up for debate when those people are white heterosexual men?

          Silly, don’t I know that it’s white heterosexual men’s job to decide who gets what liberties?

          1. “…That it suddenly becomes a problem to put people’s liberties up for debate when those people are white heterosexual men?..”

            Shitstain here thinks pulling words out of his ass and trying to re-direct a comment might find some as stupid as he to buy it.
            Once more, the gold in stooooooooopid.

            1. This is why no one really believes him when he says he wants to learn.

              He’s looking for bias conformation, not education.

          1. https://youtu.be/0Fp8oIATVI0

            Better Left Unsaid documentary

            1. Please, folks, load ’em up here. Remember the policy of one link per post; we got tons of space.

              1. Doing God’s work, thanks for the links.

            2. I had to jump through several “verification” hoops to just watch that trailer-absurd!

    1. CRT defines itself in opposition to traditional civil rights and even Enlightenment rationalism. It defines itself not simply as a “Theory,” but also as movement of activists who seek to transform society.

      https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2021/06/28/stop_gaslighting_parents_on_critical_race_theory_783202.html

      1. Rico, this quote is for you:

        Anybody who tries to peddle the line that CRT is just “talking about racism” is either gaslighting or being gaslit themselves. And anyone who maintains that CRT is simply an academic theory discussed in law school, at best, is ignorant of what CRT really is.

  48. And all you Marxist apologists hoping to shove this down people’s throats?
    Get fuck with a running, rusty chainsaw.

  49. Come on Robby be better. Of course you can study communism and marxism in in school. There’s a difference between studying something in history or indoctrinating students to hate America. Critical race theory is being taught as if it is a fact that America and whites in general are inherently racist and all whites are oppressors. That’s not studying that’s indoctrination.

    1. “…Of course you can study communism and marxism in in school. There’s a difference between studying something in history or indoctrinating students to hate America…”

      Remember when the creationists were pitching the ‘teach the conversation’ bullshit?
      Shitstain, up-thread, tried to make teaching the propaganda = teaching the subject.
      Wanna learn about commie murderers? Robert Conquest and Richard Pipes (and even the apologist Figes) will tell you what you need, can and should know; propagandists offer bullshit.

    2. Trump supporters shat in the hallways of the US capitol building during their attempt to overthrow the US constitution.

      Tucker Carlson just called the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff a pig for defending the military reading books.

      Who hates what now?

      1. “Trump supporters shat in the hallways of the US capitol building during their attempt to overthrow the US constitution.“

        Lol, you’re such a fucking drama queen. Oh no! The Four Hour Insurrection almost destroyed the country! White soccer moms being escorted into the Capitol by Capitol Police to take ironic selfies in Pelosis’ office almost destroyed the Constitution! Worse than 9/11!!! Shut the fuck up already loser.

        1. I’m just trying to understand who hates America, the people who want to improve America or the ones who want to literally destroy it and install an mentally ill orange fat man as dictator.

          1. Tony
            June.30.2021 at 2:22 pm
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            “I’m just trying to understand who hates America.”

            Look in the mirror, you do. Did you forget how the country was founded on the ultimate sin of slavery and is bigoted, racist and homophobic? It’s police indiscriminately kill black and brown people for no reason. The majority white people have set up an impenetrable system that favors only whites.
            It crushes the voices of marginalized people who want to be rid of the fascist chains of Judeo-Christian white western civilization. Did you forget all these things? You hate this fucking country. As a matter of fact, for the last 12 years you’ve shit on this country every chance you get. But you lie so much you can’t keep your lies straight and now claim to love your country. It’s absurd. You’re such a shameless and despicable rat.

            1. I don’t hate anything. Hate is a waste of time, especially if you’re talking about dead people. The past is an illusion. It’s a story we tell ourselves. A few chemicals sloshing around in our heads.

              I live here and don’t plan on moving any time soon, so I want this to be the best possible society. The fact that it’s the most ethnically diverse society on earth gives it strength and is something worth celebrating.

              Others disagree. And if they feel the emotional urge to overthrow the government and install a dictator in order to enact some genocidal plot, I will advocate that they be killed quickly. Because I love my country.

      2. Get out of here with that bs. A bunch of senior citizens were let in the capital by the capital police and took selfie’s for proof. “Overthrow the Gov.” haha . I thought Biden just said you’d need nuclear weapons and f16’s to overthrow the gov. Make up your mind. As for Miley, Tucker was dead on , the guy should be thrown out of the military, and plenty of former military members said the same. Was it anti American when they were ripping into general Flynn? That’s what I thought. Calling out terrible leaders isn’t anti American, it’s necessary. Most of today’s military brass couldn’t hold a candle to the military leaders of the past. It’s our duty as Americans to point that out before the country is lost for good.

        1. They tried to overturn the presidential election. You wouldn’t be downplaying it so pathetically if they were black Democrats, would you?

          So Gen. Milley should be thrown out of the military because he argued in favor of students reading books at the military academy?

          1. iTs JUsT bOOks! Yeah right motherfucker, poor Gen. Pig Milley just wants them to do their readin’, writing, ‘rithmetic you guys! As if people are in an uproar over Tuesdays With Morrie on the navy recommend reading list. You are such a dishonest piece of shit. Say, if War Pig had the little sailors reading Mein Kampf would you be utterly confused as to why all those evil republicans won’t let them just read? You and I both know the answer to that you dumb bastard. Fuck off Tony, nobody is buying your lies.

    3. “That’s not studying that’s indoctrination.”

      A distinction that has been made obvious by most everyone opposing the teaching of CRT. Repeatedly and to the point of unavoidability. Yet Robby simply never finds time to address this distinction, much less refute it.

      Avoiding this element of the discussion at this late date being evidence that you are not actually interested in any honest discussion on the topic – academic or otherwise.

      1. Even Andrew Sullivan gets it

        “This is not teaching about critical race theory; it is teaching in critical race theory. ”

        https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/dont-ban-crt-expose-it-2d9

  50. “Trump supporters shat in the hallways of the US capitol building…”
    Strangely enough, not even the idiotic assholes who claimed the cop died from ‘fire extinguishers’ has made that claim! Do you think it might be more stoooooopid lies from shitstain? I do.

    “… during their attempt to overthrow the US constitution…”
    Now this has been explained to lefty ignoramuses like shitstain and others many times: If you are to claim someone or some people are attempting to do a thing, you must (as a rational human being) have some explanation of how they might even possibly accomplish that end. Otherwise, you are left with the equivalence of claiming they were gonna teach pigs to fly and get them to poop on Pelosi!
    Shitstain is stuck with the suggestion that they can get pigs to fly and (Tony/turd rule) simply has not the mental ability to understand the idiocy of his claim. Shitstain is not a rational human being.

    “Tucker Carlson just called the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff a pig for defending the military reading books.
    Who hates what now?”
    Shitstain seems to think his fixation on Carlson is germane. Shitstain is stupid in many, many ways.

    1. Tony is just a paid rabble rouser or one of the reporters here – he won’t directly respond to any question in a post, just an inflammatory comment that may obtusely touch on the point the original poster made.

  51. CRT absolutely can be banned. It’s not a subject to be learned, it’s a lie and a con to brainwash people into accepting Marxism. It’s also a losing life strategy for black kids, as telling people that they are oppressed robs them of ambition. Ban it for the same reason you can’t teach flat Earth theory.

    1. Thank you. You saved me the time.

    2. https://twitter.com/LeonydusJohnson/status/1409920249152126988?s=19

      Is there any research that suggests that harboring perpetual bitterness, resentment, and vindictiveness along with attitudes of victimization is healthy behavior that leads to positive outcomes?

    3. “CRT absolutely can be banned.”

      That’s the funny part. Teaching about CRT It is really not being banned. Oh to be sure schools are being told that certain elements such as the inherent overt racism cannot be taught as such.

      But many of those same schools are also being directed that students be taught about the horrors of actual Marxist communism. And nobody is telling those schools they cannot then explain to those same students that CRT is Marxism.

  52. adherents of critical race theory tend toward a kind of progressive activism that views post-Enlightenment classical liberalism and its notions of equal opportunity, the prioritization of individual rights over group rights, and colorblindness with hostility.

    Then we have nothing to talk about. If you don’t like the foundations of the Republic, then leave and go someplace where “equity” matters, like the PRC.

    1. ” the prioritization of individual rights over group rights”

      Defense of which you would expect from an ostensibly libertarian publication.

      1. Honestly, the article is so tangled, that defense might be in there and not visible.

        Part of the problem with CRT is that it is so miasmatic that whenever you try to pin it down to what it is and what it is not, it wiggles. To someone who is used to measuring things, and believes that words have a definite meaning, CRT (and it’s penumbra) looks pretty sloppy.

        But yeah, a clear statement that the Republic was created to protect personal, not group, rights would be in order.

        1. Part of the problem with CRT is that it is so miasmatic that whenever you try to pin it down to what it is and what it is not, it wiggles. To someone who is used to measuring things, and believes that words have a definite meaning, CRT (and it’s penumbra) looks pretty sloppy.

          This is the MO. An moving target/running tab on getting your preferred legislation enacted. It’s the no true Scotsman argument that applies to everything including socialism (which has never been tried). Homosexuality (despite all the evidence) is not a choice, it’s a genetically-ingrained characteristic. Unless you happen to be bisexual or one of the multitudes of people who were gay and wound up in a straight relationship. Then sexuality is fluid and, speaking of which, gender is also fluid. That’s why homosexuals need the same protections as Jews, women, and Blacks. Except Rachel Dolezal. She’s appropriating.

  53. Critical Theory is a method of bringing about class conflict, whether it be through social, economic, religious or ethnic divisions. Years of group identity indoctrination and politics makes this possible. I get a kick how Rico euphemizes Marxist theory.

  54. Notice all the usuals showed up to parrot every media talking point about CRT (all quickly disproved with the use of a google search):

    – R’s just dont want to talk about racism / slavery
    – THAT’s not real CRT its _____, THIS is what CRT really is
    – CRT is only taught in colleges, has nothing to do with K-12 public schools, not happening there
    – its really not that bad, just a theory, what’s the harm in learning a theory
    – It has nothing to do with Marxism

    No coincidence these are all the same talking points being blasted across CNN, MSNBC, NYT, Wapo. They didn’t even take the time to make an original argument, just use the standard DNC talking points that have been tried and refuted so many times.

    1. And also dont forget about their last line of defense. When presented with evidence that shits all over their argument, they will fall back to

      “But TRUUUUUUMP!!!”

      If they have to invoke either surrender flag (the classic being, YOURE RACIST for making the argument at all, and the other being BUT TRUMP BAD!!) you know you already won.

      They have nothing and they know it. And they are seeing that real people, with skin in the game, are fed up with them.

  55. Rico, it would be helpful to the discussion to stop aiding the argument ‘basis in legal scholar’s thought’s’ versus the vast majority, which was social ‘sciences.’ It is a fact, and should be addressed, but with additional explanation -the number of legal scholars involved was very small compared to the number of socioligists, et cetera. A better argument may be: garbage in, garbage out, but that does little to solve the current enmity between the groups clashing. I do find it a bit amusing that the left-leaning sorts are up in arms that the righties are trying to ‘silence’ teachers who are propagating a philosophy that teaches white people and men to not speak if black folks or women might have something to say. Irony comes in all colors, as it were. That said, I am not certain that government intervention and regulation is the correct course, but it may be the course folks feel driven to take, and that is their right. As an aside, if you keep making sense, you’ll never get invited to the really good lefty cocktail parties.

  56. Not that another comment is needed here but here it is: my 23ndMe profile now says that I am only about 60% European and now 40% of what used to be Greek (Euro) os now considered Southwest Asian and North African. So this must make me biracial according to actual science. Yay! That means I can’t be racist and don’t need any CRT re-education. I also suspect that if CRT really takes hold, there will be a push by groups formerly considered white (Irish, Italians, Polish ) to become new races, leaving actual whites to be the boring old Anglos.

    1. Or perhaps the Germanic peoples in general. What could possibly go wrong there? Nothing bad ever happens when Germanics decide they are a race.

    2. Welcome to being a person of color. Which is the “other” category in BIPOC.

    3. So where do “Germans” that actually come from where the map now shows “Poland” fit in? And what about Napolean’s armies on their way to Russia, what genetic trail did they leave behind in that part of the world?

      How bout “Irish”, which may or may not have been Scandinavian, depending on who zoomed whom 1200 years ago?

      Or “Scandinavian” who may have been “Irish” depending on what came home from the various raiding expeditions? For that matter, even though the sagas don’t mention it, maybe some of the Vinland crowd mixed with North Americans 1000 years back?

      And that’s all just one family.

      What a crock this “race” thing is!

      1. A crock indeed! But it sure keeps a lot of people employed in the government, academia, and non-profits. Do away with race as a category and DC would look like Cleveland or Detroit

  57. Just to be clear; If you can’t ban CRT then, intrinsically, you can’t ban racism. You can’t start a conversation about anti-racism without starting a conversation about racism.

  58. How about a prohibition on presenting as truth any “learning material that espouses, advocates or promotes a racist or sexist concept”?

  59. Crazy Racist Training

  60. “…Mark Milley was honest. Last week, under intense grilling by House Republicans, he conceded that he would “have to get much smarter on whatever the theory is.”
    Yes, moron, you do, rather than plunging headlong at the behest of the likes of racists like Obama and Austin. If you admit to not understanding it, will you be depending on the troops to figure it out? The subject is poison, and It’s hateful and chaotic.
    I can only imagine how you and Austin got where yo are, and yo mamma wouldn’t be happy.

  61. “…freedom of expression in the classroom.”
    Since the black protests broke out last May with all the attendant violence, destruction and death, the proponents have gotten away with the “they’re an expression of our freedom to express under the 1st amendment.” I thought that pretty much covered freedom of speech and peaceful assembly, not anything goes. So, to go from the sublime to the ridiculous, can a school teacher pull his pants down in class and call protected by the 1st amendment?

  62. Second, Reason’s J.D. Tuccille is completely correct that “the critical race theory debate wouldn’t matter if we had more school choice.” Families deserve more control over their children’s education, and the best way to give it to them is to let students attend whatever school best fits their needs. If parents are concerned that a district is regularly training its teachers to espouse a DiAngelo-esque worldview, the easiest solution is to empower the kids to go elsewhere.

    That’s nice, except school choice isn’t going to happen with leftist Dems controlling the federal levers of power, and Reason seems in no particular hurry to get them out of power. So the options are 1) you fight CRT with the goal towards banning it from public education or 2) it becomes the dominant philosophy taught, thereby indoctrinating generations of children into socialism.

    That’s the biggest problem with libertarians. They spend an inordinate amount of time coming up with excuses for why nobody ever needs to put in any real work to fix attacks on our freedoms, based on this stupid rationalization that these attacks wouldn’t happen if we just lived in a libertarian utopia that libertarians aren’t remotely close to getting anyone to buy into.

    That’s why libertarians deserve to be the first ones loaded onto the railcars if leftists actually win. They aren’t useful to anyone and did everything they could to undermine the fight against the socialist takeover because they only care about making snotty, irrelevant arguments about how their hypothetical utopia that they have no idea how to create would fix everything.

  63. Uncanny how close CRT gets to race realism. So whiteness is about punctuality and objectivity and black kids are bad at dissecting and analyzing? I agree!

  64. “It Can Be Exposed, Mocked, and Avoided”

    Kind of hard to do when HR Departments demand you learn it and agree with it or your fired, Military branches demand you obey it or you’re dishonorably discharged, and parents have no veto power over School Board decisions and said School Boards shut down any protest against it with Police force.

  65. Middle School and HS history classes should teach about racism, for example:

    The history of the confederacy, the role of slavery in the U.S. economy and the reasoning behind secession
    The Civil Rights movement
    The Indian Removal act and Trail of Tears
    The “Yellow Peril” and the Chinese Exclusion act
    Forced internment of Japanese Americans during WWII

    American history taught in schools shouldn’t be “Patriotic History” only, as Trump would prefer. You can love your country warts and all.

    Rufo and his supporters would prefer to intimidate school boards so that schools and teachers will gloss over uncomfortable parts of our history for fear of offending anyone. That’s not the stated purpose of all this school board ruckus, but it could be the result.

    1. Rufo sure touched a nerve. When you start referring to Rufo like he is Trump you know he’s getting under the right people’s skin. From what I’ve seen he’s smart, tenacious and doesn’t back down and fuckers like you are lying about him, so win win.

  66. There’s ever reason to “ban” a bad theory, they do that to themselves, so I tell myself.

    Then I think about how hot is this summer, and hope I don’t buy Freon this summer.

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