Court Says COVID-19 Can No Longer Justify Immediate Expulsion of Migrant Families
Plus: Pro-Palestine protests allowed outside synagogue, Biden's bank surveillance plan, and more...

"The Court is not convinced that the transmission of COVID-19 during border processing cannot be significantly mitigated." The Biden administration can't keep expelling migrant families under the banner of pandemic precaution, a federal court says.
On Thursday, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia struck down the administration's interpretation of a public health rule known as Title 42, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had declared as grounds for banning border crossings and immediately expelling anyone caught entering the country.
With "the wide availability of testing, vaccines, and other minimization measures, the Court is not convinced that the transmission of COVID-19 during border processing cannot be significantly mitigated," the new ruling says.
Title 42–based immediate expulsions—which the CDC said were a necessary public health measure during the COVID-19 pandemic—were started under former President Donald Trump and extended and ramped up under President Joe Biden. ("The Biden administration is on target to approach a historical fiscal-year record for apprehending migrants on the U.S./Mexico border," noted Reason's Brian Doherty yesterday. "We are likely to have seen 1.64 million such apprehensions by this month's end of fiscal 2021, even as opponents absurdly accuse the president of pursuing 'open borders' policies.")
The policy means no U.S. processing of anyone—including those seeking asylum here—found attempting to cross the border. Once caught, people are returned immediately to Mexico or their home countries.
But U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan ruled yesterday that Title 42 doesn't justify this policy and, beginning two weeks from the order, the administration will have to give migrant families an opportunity to seek asylum here.
The U.S. "can continue to expel single adults arriving at the U.S. southern border," notes Politico. "Unaccompanied children have been exempt from being expelled using Title 42."
BREAKING: A federal court just ordered the Biden administration to stop expelling immigrant families under Title 42.
The policy, initiated under Trump, unlawfully strips people of the right to seek asylum by expelling them without a hearing under the guise of public health.
— ACLU (@ACLU) September 16, 2021
FREE MINDS
Pro-Palestine protests allowed outside synagogue. In Michigan, a federal court held that pro-Palestine protests at Jewish synagogues are allowed. The case stems from protests that have been taking place in Ann Arbor outside the Beth Israel Congregation since 2003. Some synagogue members said the protests caused them emotional distress and interfered with the exercising of their religion.
"But the congregants have not alleged that the protesters ever blocked them from using their synagogue or that the protests were even audible from inside the building," wrote Judge Jeffrey Sutton in the court's opinion, rejecting a 1,000-foot buffer zone proposed by the congregants.
"The American Civil Liberties Union filed a brief in support of the activists, saying the protests are entitled to protection even if 'offensive, upsetting and distasteful,'" notes the Associated Press. "If public officials and courts have discretion to suppress speech they don't like, then none of us truly enjoys the freedom of speech," Dan Korobkin of the ACLU of Michigan said.
FREE MARKETS
Billboard tax is unconstitutional. The Ohio Supreme Court has ruled that the city of Cincinnati can't tax billboard companies to help ease its budget woes. From the A.P.:
Justice Sharon Kennedy, writing the court's unanimous opinion, said the companies, as publishers of speech, can't be singled out for engaging in protected expression. She also noted that because of various exceptions, the tax applied mainly to two companies.
Those businesses, Lamar Advertising and Norton Outdoor Advertising, indicated the tax would require them to remove less profitable billboards, which has the effect of limiting protected speech, Kennedy said.
"That the tax involves billboards rather than the institutional press is of no consequence, and strict scrutiny applies," Kennedy said.
FOLLOW-UP
Biden elaborates on financial surveillance plan. Following up on a proposal announced in May, Biden on Thursday offered more details about his desire to snoop on American bank accounts. In a White House speech, Biden said that he wants to give the IRS access to information on "the amounts that come into" people's bank accounts "and what amounts go out of their bank accounts." He framed it as a way to catch super-wealthy tax cheats. But "Biden's framing of this plan to beef up IRS enforcement with an additional $80 billion in funding is wildly off-kilter," says Reason's Eric Boehm.
…Giving the IRS more information about the inflow and outflow of bank accounts won't automatically tell the IRS that someone is hiding unreported, taxable income. But it gives the federal tax cops another way to establish probable cause for a financial stop-and-frisk.
More here.
Florida can continue banning schools from requiring students and staff to wear masks. "Judge K. Michael Moore in Miami denied a request by parents of disabled children for a preliminary injunction against an executive order that DeSantis issued in July," reports the A.P. That order "served as the basis for the Florida Department of Health issuing a rule that required school districts to allow parents to opt out of any student mask mandates. Moore wrote in Wednesday's ruling that parents should have pursued administrative claims before filing a lawsuit."
QUICK HITS
BREAKING: Bye, single family zoning in California. Governor Gavin Newsom has signed SB9, making duplexes legal on any lot zoned for one house statewide. He also signed SB10 making it easier for cities to approve small apartment buildings in single family neighborhoods.
— Heather Knight (@hknightsf) September 16, 2021
• Two dozen state attorneys general are threatening to sue over Biden's proposed workplace vaccine/testing mandate.
• "Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, the first openly gay man elected governor in the United States, has married his longtime partner in the first same-sex marriage for a sitting governor," notes NBC News.
• New York Gov. Kathy Hochul is set to sign a bill that "gives more leniency for parolees and could mean the release of inmates locked up on technical parole violations."
• "It's not tech companies that have 'seemingly invincible power,' it's the government that does—the entity that has a monopoly on force and wields it with no real opt-out mechanism for those of us who object," writes Reason's Liz Wolfe.
• "Central to President Joe Biden's plan to hike federal spending by $3.5 trillion is a promise that middle-class Americans won't face a tax increase. That's a claim that is looking less and less true with each passing day," points out Eric Boehm.
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The Biden administration can't keep expelling migrant families under the banner of pandemic precaution, a federal court says.
Once here, on the other hand, they can be expelled from all kinds of places here in the country, just like the rest of us.
Glad to see the illegals getting their rights back. Now if citizens could only do the same.
Nice to know that requiring immigrants to not be sick when entering the country is now illegal.
yup, I'm pro-immigration, but checking for communicable disease is one of the fundamental reasons you have border checkpoints to begin with.
Yeah, and a great way to avoid the key issue. The new logic seems to be that since we can't expel illegal immigrants because of COVID risks, then we have to let them all in.
It would seem the obvious solution to vaccinate them at the border. Use the J&J vaccine because it requires only a single dose and we don't have to pretend we'll ever see them again.
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In Michigan, a federal court held that pro-Palestine protests at Jewish synagogues are allowed.
First they came for the anti-semites...
So, is Michigan ACLU more consistent than the national org? Or would this not apply to Illinois Nazis, for example?
I fucking hate Illinois nazis
Elwood?
"You traded The Bluesmobile for that hunk o' shit??"
at least its an ethos
It wouldn't apply if the jews protest palistinians
Allowing the smashing of windows for Jewish businesses coming to a blue state near you.
Statistically, at least one window smashed during the BLM insurrections had to be Jewish owned.
Kristalnacht 2: Not Just for the Jew
Yep. In wokeland, Asians and other successful people are Jews.
Here in Minneapolis the burned down minority and immigrant owned bookshops and diners, and the neighborhood liquor store. Oh, and an Auto Zone.
Mostly peaceful.
"Get In the (Autonomous) Zone!"
Mostly peaceful smashing of windows, don’t forget.
They have insurance which is a legal defense from political vandalism.
How many times do I have to tell you guys that the vandalism and the political protests were completely separate?
Different nights?
Special bricks.
White Mike’s posts are always a riot.
Look again. Though it really is hard to tell by the content of the posts.
Growing up in Kenosha I knew more North Koreans than Jews.
Except for the occasional wedding or funeral, I'd never brighten the door of any house of worship. But whether I would or not, protesters can say what they want, but the moment any of them block my way, it's on like a pot of hummus!
I'm still not sure why so many Progressives are pro-Palestine and anti-Israel? Do they like Taliban-style governance? Do they think women and LGBTQ types will be treated more fairly under Sharia law than in a modern liberal democracy like Israel?
Or are they just after the Arab immigrant vote, and assume the Jewish vote is already locked up by the Dems?
This is a mystery to me as well, because it is abundantly clear they don't just support the underdog in any situation.
There are no good guys in the Israel/Palestine equation but at least women in Israel can vote, and anyone can drink wine or be gay without going to jail.
I’m still not sure why so many Progressives are pro-Palestine and anti-Israel?
Because Israel is seen as a colonial power.
Because Israel is seen as a colonial power.
Which is ridiculous, because you don't get people speaking the same language from Morocco to Iraq without an empire covering those lands at one point. Muslims conquered Israel from the Byzantines in the 7th Century C.E., and Arab culture replaced many indigenous cultures from Morocco to Iraq. A few peoples like the Berbers, Kurds, and Jews remained distinct.
Which is ridiculous, because you don’t get people speaking the same language from Morocco to Iraq without an empire covering those lands at one point.
That's essentially just saying that the original Caliphate was a colonial power, too, so "tit for tat," which exactly feeds the narrative that Israel is a colonial power.
The argument/perception is that the West created Israel in order to drive a wedge into the ME and prevent it from re-uniting. Which is true as far is it goes.
The trouble is that "Israel"="Colonial Power" is simplistic (it's not Israel that is the ultimate "colonial force" - it's France, the UK, and to a certain extent the US) and hides Western liberalism's deeply mixed feelings about colonialism and nationalism, in which a debate over which race of people have a "natural right" to a piece of land obscures the ugly collectivism behind the debate in the first place that liberalism is ostensibly trying to overcome.
The fear, in short, is that to support Israel is to support race-based nationalism, not realizing that supporting Palestinian nationalism is also supporting race-based nationalism.
Jews had an independent nation of Israel before the Romans conquered it. They are the indigenous people of Israel.
Jews had an independent nation of Israel before the Romans conquered it. They are the indigenous people of Israel.
And Palestinians (aka Philistines) had an independent nation before the Judeans conquered it, and are the "indigenous" (whatever that means) people of the Gaza strip.
And whatever do we do about Samaria?
My point was that the argument over which race of people has "natural" claim to a piece of land is already firmly placed within a whole host of nationalist assumptions that the contemporary left claims to repudiate.
I'm not saying they're right, or that they even have a particularly well-informed take on the situation - I'm answering the question "why so many Progressives are pro-Palestine and anti-Israel?"
Answer: Because it's how you signal that you're against colonialism driven by race-based nationalism, with the added caveat that you have to not think it all the way through to realizing that Palestinian nationalism in also race-based, hence the passion for keeping the issue as simple as possible.
The left's opposition to colonialism is driven by identity politics, not any principled stance against race-based nationalism or conquest. That's why they ignore White on White independence movements such as those in Scotland and Catalonia and Black on Black independence movements such as those in Biafra and South Sudan.
The sides the left will pick become clear if you look through Reagan's 1st World, 2nd World, and 3rd World classification. If an ethnic group that was unaligned during the Cold War or on the Communist's side fought against a 1st World nation, the left sided against the 1st World nation. Despite being unaligned, Israel was opposed by the Soviet Union. Today's left is just continuing the Soviet Union's anti-Israel stance.
The sides the left will pick become clear if you look through Reagan’s 1st World, 2nd World, and 3rd World classification.
That's been around for a long time--it goes back to the "non-aligned movement" that was brought to life at the 1955 Bandung Conference. The whole pretense was that these ex-colonies would lead the world into some stupid new globalist utopia, but reality stepped in and nipped that in the bud rather quickly.
The fear, in short, is that to support Israel is to support race-based nationalism, not realizing that supporting Palestinian nationalism is also supporting race-based nationalism.
The left only wants multiculturalism for Europe, North America, Australia, and New Zealand. In other places, they call race-based nationalism "decolonialism". They cheered Nigeria winning independence, but didn't give a dame about Biafra's independence, because the first case reversed British territorial gains, and the second case is two African groups fighting over land.
Arabs make up 20% of Israeli citizens, and they've made it to the Knesset and the Israeli Supreme Court. The evacuation of Gaza showed that those supporting Palestinians don't want a single Jew remaining in land that Palestinians control. It is a more extreme case of race-based nationalism.
Palestinian nationalism is also a based on a more recent race. No one argued for creating a nation out of Gaza, Judea, and Samaria when Egypt and Jordan controlled those territories, because the left saw Gazans as the same race as Egyptians and West Bank Palestinians as the same race as Jordanians before Israel conquered those lands.
The left only wants multiculturalism for Europe, North America, Australia, and New Zealand. In other places, they call race-based nationalism “decolonialism”.
Yes - this is part of that "Western liberalism’s deeply mixed feelings about colonialism and nationalism" I was talking about. National/racial pride are icky. Except for among the victims of colonialism, for whom national/racial pride are noble and essential.
Palestinian nationalism is also a based on a more recent race.
How so? They sprung from the ground more recently than the Judeans? Does the Bible not indicate that the Philistines were already inhabiting the Gaza Strip before the Kingdom of Israel was even formed? Perhaps before the Hebrews even entered the area at all? Arabs as well?
No one argued for creating a nation out of Gaza, Judea, and Samaria when Egypt and Jordan controlled those territories
Besides, of course, Gazans, Judeans, and Samaritans. But you are correct that prior to Europe's looking for Final Solutions to its Jewish Problem no one in the West much cared what went on in that corner of the world and which races "belonged" in which parts.
Except for among the victims of colonialism, for whom national/racial pride are noble and essential.
The left doesn't have a neutral definition of "colonialism". It's an identity politics term for conquest by a 1st World nation. The left doesn't count when 2nd World and 3rd World nations conquer.
Yes, progressives are ridiculous.
This is why I like to ask pro Palestinian Arab types why it was okay for the Greeks, Babylonians, Romans, Arabs, Turks, British, etc. to conquer Israel, but not okay for the Jews to conquer it back.
All very true, and good points from everyone else here too.
Still, if I were Theodore Hertzl and the Zionist Movement (dabba-dibby-dibby-dibby-dibby-dibby-dibby-doo!) I'd want my homeland build on an offshore platform, with hanging grape vines like the Ziggurats of Babylon, hydroponics, livestock, stores, and Yacht Rock on the PA! That's homeland with style!
It’s called victim mining. Wherever the greater deposits of real or imagined grievance can be found, progs will be there to exploit it, contradictions be damned.
They are pathetic.
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1438522837132726282
Pelosi: Yes, China's committed “genocide” against the Uighurs; “having said that," the bigger, “overrriding" issue is “working together on climate”
That is one sick bitch.
Remember when Dems paid lip service to human rights?
Good times.
Honest lip service or politically motivated lip service?
I think some young activists in the 60s and 70s really did want government to stay out of their lives. Now, all the young whiners want government to run their lives (or at least other people's lives).
All the young whiners want government to "ruin" their lives.
In Nancy Lugosi's fase, more like plastic surgeon lip service, amirite?
This is the perfect example of how the wealthy Elite managed to turn our country into a fractured morass while they got rich. Romney will talk to you about free trade. Pelosi will talk to you about climate change. But the net effect from both is their billions of dollars of commerce that they control going back and forth from China.
I actually tend to agree with freer trade. But just because I happen to be in agreement with wealthy elites doesn't blind me to how they use these wedge issues to keep their Tribes in line. (And this specific case is a prime example of why Trump was so hated by the Elite.)
At some point the Romneyites and the Clintonians took over their respective tribes. Sure they jockey for the control of the money train, but they are all on that train none the less, and none of them want the plebes getting off the train.
Pelosi is an amazing example of the career politician: everything that leaves its mouth is spin, rhetoric, or untruth. It lives in a world of privilege and entitlement that only other politicians and bureaucrats truly comprehend.
And the current third and fourth options are the left and right populist tribal movements.
We are truly fucked.
Genocide is just one of the methods China is using to fight climate change.
Democrats were for forced sterilization of undesirables way before China.
How else can you plan parenthood for others?
The CCP is really living the dream of the American Progressive.
If humans are the cause of global warming, killing humans makes sense! Children will grow up to use MASSIVE amounts of energy. We must murder the children to save the climate!
What's funny is people defended her. And that clip was not out of context, it was not an edited clip with jump cuts, she clearly means what she says.
ACLU TDS Tweets, excellent work there.
That's a claim that is looking less and less true with each passing day,…
A nice way to say “bald face lie”.
It was completely untrue from the beginning. I don't know how ot could get less true than that.
https://twitter.com/petitedov/status/1438596487257149441
This is downright evil. That’s how “equity” works. They don’t care that TX or FL have bigger populations that need it. They can use equity as an excuse to punish their political opponents. Never mind that once NE states will get hit seasonally, I’m sure their policy will change.
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Daily Caller
@DailyCaller
· 18h
REPORTER: "Why is the Biden administration cutting" antibody treatments in Florida?
@PressSec: "That is not accurate... Our supply is not unlimited and we believe it should be equitable... We're not going to give a greater percentage to Florida over Oklahoma."
“We aren’t going to ship products where to demand is, we are going to send them where we think they should go”.
She said it nicely, no mean tweets. Whats the issue?
Those tweets, so very mean.
Said every communist economic planner ever.
We are also going to tell farmers what and when to plant. That way everybody will have enough bread.
And waiting in lines is good for community solidarity.
We are also going to tell farmers what and when to plant. That way everybody will have enough bread.
Those farmers will need help and there are too many people too close together in the big cities to ever get a handle on COVID. They can nudge people who don't hold essential jobs to collectively migrate to rural farming communities. For those that can't work remotely, there will be plenty of jobs in construction, installing high speed internet, and baking all that bread.
If they need land, they can use eminent domain to obtain it from ranchers. Ranches are bad for the environment. People who own more than one cow are greedy beefeaters who are destroying the planet.
If people don't want to move to the Midwest, there are some urgent public works projects that need attention to save Alaska from AGW (all those cows!). There are no large airports that far north, but they can run the trains day and night. Even more jobs!
Doled out based on politics instead of the market. Standard.
As I understand it, Desantis is trying to work out a deal with GSK to buy their stuff directly. And unless I miss my guess, Biden is attempting to work out a deal whereby he'll buy tens of billions of dollars worth of GSK's stuff on the condition that GSK doesn't sell any to Florida.
As I understand it, Biden is looking out for the interests of the other states and the United States. If there's a limited suppy why should a guy in Florida get the treatment over a guy in Ohio?
As I understand it, other governors can negotiate their own deals as well. Why should Biden determine who needs it more?
And how would it be legal to say "We (the Feds) will buy a lot ONLY if you do not sell to this entity"
Seems like a really sketchy thing to do legally, but the Dems are apparently giving up on ever winning FL.
BTW, the FL air national guard DOES have F-15's.
And F-22's.
And a space command!
And the 249th 'Special' operations squadron.
And rockets
And Draken International, the largest private Air Force in the word.
Neat how they fly MiG-21's and Atlas Cheetahs.
By your logic Republicans are giving up winning the other 49 states .
Yes, because it's not the Democrats who want to punish Florida but the other 49 states...
Do you even think before you type this stuff?
Wow. You are dumb.
I can see how a drug-addled troon might think that.
Sullum coming out in favor of allowing the Feds alone to decide distribution of goods.
LIBERTARIAN MOMENT~!
No wonder the LP cannot manage a wet fart of political relevancy.
Thats not the job of the federal government dummy.
Why should a guy in Ohio get a treatment over a guy in Florida? If there's scarcity, it's going to happen one way or another. I don't see how it makes any difference. Or why the federal government should be involved at all.
Why should a state govt get involved?
It shouldn't in my opinion. But a state buying the drugs is a lot less disturbing than the feds trying to determine who is allowed to buy them and who will have them.
Florida is playing hard ball by basically saying fuck the rest of America. Well, America has an executive and a checkbook too.
That's what the Democrats are literally doing to Florida, you stupid fuck. Not what Florida is doing to America.
HiGhEsT bIdDeR!
How so? Other states can do similar things. It's the governor of Florida's job to do things to benefit Florida.
It’s the point in the argument were Sullum realizes he’s lost, so he just starts making shit up.
Any other parts of the economy and society you want Biden to run?
"As I understand it, Biden is looking out for the interests of the other states and the United States. If there’s a limited suppy why should a guy in Florida get the treatment over a guy in Ohio?"
You should really ask yourself why you are so reflexively defending what, at the least, is central planning and at worst is an attempt to use the bargaining monopsony of the US Government as a club to punish political rivals. Why is it so important to you to defend this behavior?
Team
Unity!
Yeah this is a tacit admission by Biden that the treatments work and that he's willing to deprive some residents of Florida of access to something that might save their lives to score political points. Fuck Joe Biden.
FUCK JOE BIDEN
Remember when not sending 30,000 vents was dangerous and going to get people killed, etc etc? Where's the outrage here?
Where you went wrong is you misunderstood your ignorance for understanding.
If there is no demand in Ohio, there is no need for your dim argument for a state you don't care about. And, as handsy Joe has already indicated, he will nationalize the means of production, so there will not be a shortage. This is seems a punitive measure, and, more amusingly, an admission that the treatments are effective. Also, this reasoning from the WH really fucks with lefties and the 'urban centers are more populous, so should have more representation and receive more funds and resources line of 'thought'.' Suddenly, population isn't the driving factor. It's eerily as if ideology is what determines policy, not facts, or 'the science.'
If there’s a limited suppy
And yet, when the reporter pointed out the lack of reported shortages, Psaki changed the subject really quickly.
How is it even possible that Biden or a Governor of some state are the ones dealing with buying and distributing this drug rather than the doctors hospitals and providers ? it makes no sense .
Equity.
it makes no sense
Unless you recently purchased stock in the supplier.
Equity, like fairness, is a meaningless, arbitrary judgement. At best, it is a rhetorical argument to support whatever biased manipulation the speaker desired. At worst, when used by government, it justifies violence against targeted people and groups.
See: tax policy.
And the ieea of actually making more of ever6thing just never arises with anyone in the room.
The Frito-Lay Doritos Division could run health care better than these Socialist Sawbones. Whether it's vaccines, antibodies, masks, or sanitizer, "Crunch All You Want! We'll Make More!"
Ron Bailey will be here shortly to tell us that antibody treatments are, sadly, no damn good. It's the jab or nothing.
https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1438656531550068740
NEW: We’ve learned that the FAA just implemented a two week TFR (Temporary Flight Restrictions) over the international bridge in Del Rio, TX, meaning we can no longer fly our FOX drone over it to show images of the thousands of migrants. FAA says “special security reason”.
If you can’t see it, the problem goes away.
The old "cat with it's head behind the curtain' trick - - - -
Make the government shoot it down.
Nah. Just hire people to set up cameras nearby on public property and livestream it non-stop.
The cries of the assault on the press were so thundering on CNN and MSNBC this morning!!!
And Reason is totes outraged.
I mean, it's not nearly as bad as booting one specific reporter from a network that can easily replace him from press briefings though.
Thank Science we don't have to deal with such tyranny anymore!
I’m sure Reason will have an article about it later.
to quote:
They are lying to us. We know they are lying to us. They know we know they are lying to us. And they still lie to us.
The article I saw this morning identified many Haitian refugees "waiting to be detained". Can we admit that Mexico is colluding with ever other nation on the Gulf to ignore their own responsibilities and shuttle refugees to a US land border?
Haiti is just as close to the US as it is to Mexico. But since arriving in the US by boat is a big no-no, they were shipped from wherever they fled to Mexico and then shuttled to the border.
Del Rio is 400 miles from the Gulf.
Billboard tax is unconstitutional.
Tax the message landlords!
Migrant families? I think you mean "pre-American citizens living abroad". God forbid we should call them illegal aliens, that might insinuate that they might be breaking some sort of law.
...Biden said that he wants to give the IRS access to information on "the amounts that come into" people's bank accounts "and what amounts go out of their bank accounts."
That narrows it down.
Like rich guys keep lots of money in bank accounts.
And once again Mumbly Joe fumbles his speech, he didn't mean to include the word "information" there. He meant to say he wants to give the IRS access to the amounts that come in and the amounts that go out, which can be easily solved just by making the IRS a co-signatory on your bank account and giving them their own debit card. That way, they won't have to keep bugging for money, they can just take what they need.
Just jump to their desired end state: we will do all our personal finance, including checking, credit cards, savings, and investment in the federal IRS bank. We can then look forward to helpful customer service support, like monthly spending allowances and automated wealth redistribution. Plus no need to file tax returns (and no returns).
I don't know about y'all...but I am LOVING these returning norms
The normal march to authoritarian actions is well earned.
As long as it's not your "papers and effects" it should be perfectly legal, right? It's all electronic these days, so no papers then.
Of course violating our privacy is bipartisan. Bullshit war on drugs and money laundering and all that.
https://twitter.com/EliLake/status/1438285580555755529
so evictions are good now?
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Occupy Democrats
@OccupyDemocrats
· Sep 15
BREAKING: A large Florida landlord announces that he will begin requiring all new and existing tenants to provide proof of COVID vaccination, saying, “You don't want to get vaccinated? You have to move, and if you don't, we will evict you.” RT IF YOU SUPPORT THE LANDLORD’S MOVE!
PrIvAtE cOmPanY
It takes a lot to completely contradict yourself in less than a month.
The irony? The new vaccinated tenants will be paying higher rent.
Not when your core competency is hypocrisy, and, drumroll, it's occupydemocrats.
What are these rental contracts about? This isn't Silicom Valley.
Rent is racist!
this is clearly an excuse to end-around the eviction moratorium for nonpayment of rent.
And good for them!
And yeah, the replacement tenants will pay more and have to provide larger deposits because... democrats are morons and think they can just suspend the rent!
Well. If the lease expires and depending on the notice to vacate terms in the lease, then it would be legal.
If the person is evicted for this mid lease than fuck these landlords for violating the contract.
Private property owners muscling in on government totalitarianism? A conundrum for the ACLU, to be sure.
If it’s a protest move to amp up anger against the government mandates, I like it. Landlords revenge. Lol.
https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1438171435130830851
NEW: Border Patrol agents in Eagle Pass, TX found a 3-month-old boy and 2-year-old girl abandoned on the banks of the Rio Grande while they were patrolling the river yesterday. A note on the infant carrier said they are siblings from Honduras. Children safe.
Photo: CBP
But do they have proof of vaccination?
As long as this is not caught on drone footage..
https://twitter.com/FreeBeacon/status/1437875298708692994
Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Gen. Mark Milley secretly promised to warn the head of the Chinese People's Liberation Army before the United States would carry out any "attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you."
1/8/21
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1347766328468381702
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told House Democrats that she has gotten assurances there are safeguards in place in the event President Trump wants to launch a nuclear weapon, according to multiple sources.
Are there safeguards from the dementia occupant as well?
Yeah, his handlers just made a fake button that he can push and nothing happens. Then they give him some ice cream.
Good for him. Mr. Buttplug said this literally stopped Drumpf from launching a full scale war with China.
#MilleyForNobelPeacePrize
We were so close to world War 5.
Meh. Sequels are never as good as the original.
Except for The Godfather Part II.
Evil Dead 2 was better than the first one.
Empire Strikes Back.
I'm glad you got the number right. So many people make that mistake of saying World War III, when World War III was "The "Cold War," and "The War On Terror " is (was?) World War IV.
Interesting how Mr. Buttplug's avowed libertarianism always means advocating more powers for government bureaucrats.
People accusing Milley of committing treason - no he didn't, he simply promised China that he would commit treason if the US launched an attack on China. Oh, and also that the chain-of-command for launching an attack goes through him when it in fact does not. (This is why the President is known as the Commander in Chief and people like Milley his advisors rather than the other way around.)
According to Woodward and Costa, national security officials appointed by Trump agreed. Then-CIA director Gina Haspel told Milley, "We are on the way to a right-wing coup. The whole thing is insanity. He is acting out like a six-year-old with a tantrum." Even Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who had refused to acknowledge in public that Biden had won the election, told Milley that Trump was "in a very dark place right now."
Trump's supporters in the Republican Party are predictably focused on a single detail: CNN's report that Milley had "two back-channel phone calls with China's top general, who was on high alert over the chaos in the U.S.," in an effort to prevent a military incident between the two nuclear-armed nations. The right-wing disinformation machine is not interested in any form of accountability for Donald Trump, of course. Instead, leading Republicans and conservative pundits are demanding that Milley resign and be punished for alleged "treason." Trump himself has publicly declared Milley to be a traitor.
That response offers more evidence — if any was needed — of how today's Republican Party has become a fascist cult and a political crime syndicate, where loyalty to the leader matters more than anything else, including the survival of the nation or the entire world. Public opinion polls indicate that Republican voters largely feel the same way.
https://www.salon.com/2021/09/17/rogue-general-vs-rogue-president-cultists-willing-to-defend-destroying-the-world/
Lol Salon.
"Political opinion polls"
In other words, consensus around the Salon coffee bar.
In the good old days, a general like Milley would have already killed himself over the Afghanistan fuckup alone.
In the good old days, Milley wouldn't have made GO. And with luck, would have been considered unfit for service.
Not enough seppuku in our culture.
I don’t have a strong opinion about whether what Milley did was wrong. I’m still learning about it.
But must say it is funny that his critics are basing their criticisms on a _CNN_ article. I’ve been told so many times here that CNN is an absolutely worthless, lying tool of the Left.
Lol. Except Milley and his staff have basically admitted it at this point dumbass.
And no, you aren't still learning. Youre waiting for the proper leftist narrative to emerge.
This is not a complicated topic. This is like you defending Vindman for trying to institute his own policy over the presidents. And you're support of active resistance under Trump.
"I don’t have a strong opinion about whether what Milley did was wrong. I’m still learning about it."
Here is Mike pretending to be centrist. Hey guys, he might agree with you- he is unsure but, you know, he is committed to researching the subject.
"But must say it is funny that his critics..."
Ah but here he comes with his attack. Notice that he has set himself up as the neutral arbiter of truth, so that he can appear reasonable to new readers.
Just a little note to the thread readers: This is Mike's MO. He already knows everything there is to know about Milley. His prose above was just to concern troll- appear like he is being reasonable, so that he can throw a non-sequitur in there at the end.
Conversing with Mike is talking with someone who will never take responsibility for what he says. In fact, within days he will be acting as if he never said these things in the first place. He is a completely disingenuous adversary and you would do better arguing with the main character from Memento.
https://reason.com/2021/09/09/california-is-set-to-outlaw-unannounced-condom-removal/#comment-9091773
That is Mike insisting that he “would never look to Rolling Stone” for news, after spreading their bogus ivermectin story only days earlier. Consider that: He didn’t apologize. He didn’t even try to ignore his mistake. He brazenly tried to dunk on Rolling Stone to make himself look like an arbiter of truth.
The pathological narcissism required to disrespect the truth and readers so heavily should make him ashamed. It won't though, so I advise others in the thread to avoid engaging with someone that argues in such bad faith.
100% accurate
You’re really not smart.
Youre full of shit. Sec def Esper was removed in October and acting sec def Miller claims he was not advised.
How are you so wrong all the time Sullum?
"Trump’s supporters in the Republican Party are predictably focused on a single detail: CNN’s report that Milley had “two back-channel phone calls with China’s top general, who was on high alert over the chaos in the U.S.,”"
Silly Republicans opposing military takeover of civilian command. Such foolishness to worry about...well, treasonous behavior.
You know Democrats do not mind because treason is kind of their thing.
The irony is that it is now leaked that Milley had 20 phone calls with Russia and China in the time frame. Without guidance or support of the WH.
SO MILLEY IS PUTIN’S PUPPET!
Holy shit you are a pretentious cunt.
Then-CIA director Gina Haspel told Milley, “We are on the way to a right-wing coup.
I keep hearing this line, which I find to be interesting given that the situation at hand involves the head of the US military unilaterally taking the place of the President at the head of the command structure, which is sort of that a coup actually is, but we're being told that he did so to stop a coup.
The "coup" being defined as the President remaining at the top of the command structure?
Trump’s supporters in the Republican Party are predictably focused on a single detail: CNN’s report that Milley had “two back-channel phone calls with China’s top general
Details, details . . . .
in an effort to prevent a military incident between the two nuclear-armed nations
Is there any evidence that this was actually a concern at the time? I mean for anyone other than Pelosi and Milley?
And how does "I will warn you if troops are on their way so you can be better prepared to slaughter them and defeat us" help with this supposed situation?
The right-wing disinformation machine
LOL! I couldn't read past that.
“……over the chaos in the US.”
Lol. When you start on a bullshit premise limitations on nonsense are few.
So basically, he agreed to spy for a foreign power. In the military, that's usually enough for the firing squad.
Just a dress rehearsal for when Pelosi and Harris decide to depose Biden.
If the temperature is not Absolute Zero (-273.15 Degrees Celsius, −459.67 Degrees Fahrenheit, 0 Degrees Kelvin,) all operations are "kinetic operations."
"Central to President Joe Biden's plan to hike federal spending by $3.5 trillion is a promise that middle-class Americans won't face a tax increase. That's a claim that is looking less and less true with each passing day," points out Eric Boehm.
Democratic economic messaging: Tax the rich! Occupy Wall Street! We are the 99%! Drink billionaire tears!
Democratic economic reality: Tax the middle class, tax things poor people enjoy (cigarettes), concentrate wealth at the very top.
#OBLsFirstLaw
#LibertariansForBiden
To be fair, Joe Biden thinks middle class is people who are so poor they have to drive their Lincoln Town Cars for themselves.
And Joe remembers when Lincoln started building cars in his log cabin.
Joe worked for Lincoln in those days, didn't he?
Lincoln copied the Gettysburg Address from Joe and Corn Pop, not making this up, he'll tell you.
Of course Lincoln copied the address. He was a fucking Republican.
Sic Semper Tyrannus, bitches!
Progressives at the NYT are shocked that all the new taxes won't hit the super-wealthy much:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/13/us/politics/tax-plan-democrats.html
"House Democrats’ Plan to Tax the Rich Leaves Vast Fortunes Unscathed"
In the new normal - the rich includes anyone that can afford to eat 3 times a day.
re Afghanistan. Both the British and Dutch foreign ministers have lost their jobs because it was felt they botched the evacuation stuff.
Here in the US - crickets re any accountability for anything.
That is so last month.
Look ove here! Vaccine mandates!
When was the last time government officials were ever held accountable for anything? The 1970s?
The last time was apparently yesterday. Just not here in the US.
Oh, one military member did resign over the disgrace.
...well, because he felt he could not serve for a military where the leadership is not competent nor willing to face punishment for ineptitude, but still...
I mean, Rumsfeld was sent packing largely because of the flagging effort in Iraq. And numerous generals in those theaters have served for a couple years before being replaced, likely because they weren't achieving the ridiculous political objectives there.
Don't worry, Biden will his job too. It just might take 3 years.
The will be held accountable. They're all going to get awards and promotions for the unqualified success, and for managing the largest airlift evacuation in HISTORY!
That order "served as the basis for the Florida Department of Health issuing a rule that required school districts to allow parents to opt out of any student mask mandates.
Wait, this whole time the mandates aren't being banned but instead an opt out was allowed? I feel so betrayed by headlines.
If you like your mandates, you can keep your mandates.
Governor Gavin Newsom has signed SB9, making duplexes legal on any lot zoned for one house statewide.
The recall cowed him.
making duplexes legal on any lot zoned for one house statewide.
Except in Nancy Pelosi’s neighborhood.
Then where will she house her servants? Certainly not in the main house.
I'm seeing an innovative solution to the homelessness crisis he created right around the corner....
Now try to get a loan to build a single house. the bank will require you to build duplexes to maximize the resale value in case of default but not everyone wants a duplex nor afford the upfront cost. consequences be damed
This is literally something that never happens.
A bank is interested in ensuring that the loan they give you can be paid back. Period. If you build a $400,000 single family residence, their concern is that you pay them back $400,000. If you build a $600,000 duplex, their concern is that you pay back $600,000. (Plus interest, of course). Demanding that the house be a Duplex (or demanding anything that would increase the value of the property) just means increasing the amount of the loan. They might make a little more in interest but if that were to price the borrower out of the loan, it hasn't served them anything.
The last thing a bank wants to do is end up owning a house, because that is almost always financially catastrophic to the ROI of the loan. And this is especially true on bridge loans for new construction- when those default, they usually get a shitty half-built property that loses value faster than they can offload it due to all the materials sitting out in the elements.
I try to no avail to tell my leftist friends this. The bank wants nothing more or less than for you to make your mortgage payments on time and in full. That's it.
Is there a 'mandate from the people' speech in the wings? Those are the best.
"But the congregants have not alleged that the protesters ever blocked them from using their synagogue or that the protests were even audible from inside the building," wrote Judge Jeffrey Sutton in the court's opinion, rejecting a 1,000-foot buffer zone proposed by the congregants."
Now let's do mosques and see what happens.
Jewish temples are often quite nice examples of dramatic architecture. On the other hand, every mosque I’ve ever seen in the US has been very low key, often just a space in an office park with little signage.
Lol. It is amazing how ignorant you are. Mosques of standard style are all over the country dumbass.
What’s the difference what the building looks like ?
Nope.
My favorite (ex)mosque is a building in Tucson that looks like something from a Disneyland Muslimland ride. Its now a redneck bar (with mini minaret).
Which bar is that?
Are you referring to this place?
https://tucson.com/news/local/tucson-oddity-once-there-were-belly-dancers-now-steaks-draw-the-crowds/article_c9e40c0f-da86-5ce2-8442-49c9d6483bac.html
Not that I am a habitué of redneck bars, but it is always a hopeful sign of rationality in our culture when a house of worship is converted to a useful secular purpose.
Your post reminds me of a wonderful dream I have. I'd love to wake up one day and see...
Every Catholic Church turned into an observatory or an art museum...
Every Protestant Mega-Church and Mini-Church turned into a business conference and convention center...
Every Jewish Synagogue turned into a fashion boutique, catwalk, and playhouse for all the great classic Broadway musicals and new ones as well...
Every Islamic Mosque turned into a dance hall and a roller rink, with Minerets blaring "Kashmir" by Led Zeppelin five times daily and with a pirate microbroadcaster playing all the greatest DJs in the world the rest of the day and night...
Every Buddist Temple and Hindu Ashram turned into a resort getaway or a hunting lodge...
And Woo-peddling "New Religion" centers turned into medical offices and hospitals where people get real help with the latest sensory aids and prosthetics, vat-grown new organs and tissue, genetic engineering from CRISPR, brain enhancements, and neural uploads or cryonic suspension for things beyond our reach. The crystals, potions, accupuncture charts, E-Meters, and Orgone Energy Boxes could all be seen at the Doctor Feelzgood's Point-And-Laugh Medicine Show Museum on campus.
Oh, Happy Day if that dream came true!
Oh! And how could I forget:
Six Flags Over Tehran and A Whole New DisneyWorld in Mecca and Medina!
Are you being sarcastic? It's so hard to tell.
Though not particularly observant, I love religions, and think that their contributions to art, literature, humanitarianism, morality and enriching the human spirit have been overwhelmingly positive. The earth would be a far shittier place without them.
And sure, there's been some psychotic ones, like the Aztec faith or Salafism, but they're noteworthy because they are exceptional and not the norm.
I find that a lot of modern opposition to religion is based on phony pseudo-historical tropes and misconceptions, and a fundamentalism present in modern atheism that it inherited from 19th century evangelicalism.
Oh, I mean it. And all the good things you cited could be provided without religion if a body and mind just tried.
And I would hardly consider history and the words of "holy" texts themselves to be mere pop-culture tropes and memes. Nor would those who actually believe and practice those "holy" texts.
If you're going to put Witch-Hunts, Jihads, and Exorcisms on a par with the latest smiling Emoji, I'd smile when I said it to a believer.
I disagree. Tell me one instance of art, literature, humanitarianism, morality that came into existence outside of a religious framework. We will use the definition provided in the wikipedia preamble on religion.
Also, the impact and death tolls of witch-hunts and Jihads are vastly overstated. Stalin and Mao each, individually, killed well over twice as many people as all the religious wars in history put together.
Also, most exorcisms addressed psychosomatic issues and were therapeutic.
First of all, saying that something is religious because it came into being in a society that happened to be religious is a Post Hoc Ergo, Propter Hoc Fallacy (or False Causation Fallacy.)
Two, the caves of Altamira had paintings that existed long before any documented religion. What about cuneiform, The Rosetta Stone, pictographs, or numbers? Those were used independently of religion.
Trade involves an ethic of respect for consent and reciprocity and that took place as fast as humans could aquire a surplus beyond immediate survival needs. Religion didn't have a thing to do with any of that.
Likewise, charity also came from man's surplus and it most likely came from man seeing another's misfortune and saying: "Hey! This could happen to me too! What would I want in that situation?"
As for the tired dick-measuring contest between religious versus secular atrocities, religion slaughtered it's millions at a time when the Human species had not reached the 1 Billion mark on population, so comparing the two is most likely a wash. But to a libertarian, any Utopian vision that requires the enslavement or murder of so much as onehuman or sapient being is damnable, so religious and secular atrocities both are to be condemned.
Check out the link I posted above, though. I think the place he is referring to was a Moroccan restaurant, not a mosque.
Which is not to disagree with the sentiment of your comment.
This is happening, but only with mainstream protestant leftist churches like Episcopalian and Presbyterian parishes. The ones you actually want closed are doing quite well, thank you very much.
People going to churches are there for the Christianity and not some life-affirming, guitar-playing squish saying "You do you".
So Chistianity is not life-affirming? I'm glad someone came out and admitted it.
So... it's never actually seen a mosque
My mistake. A friend once told me it started as a mosque, but I should have checked.
No biggee. It does look like a cool place with an interesting history.
You say that like never seeing a Mosque is a bad thing.
Another ignorant comment from Dee. You really should get out more.
Free speech I suppose. No intimidation or chilling effect to see here, move along.
Two dozen state attorneys general are threatening to sue over Biden's proposed workplace vaccine/testing mandate.
Biden's handlers knew it was unenforceable when they had him threaten it in the first place. The theory now is something big is coming to queer the whole mandate deal so they're desperate to get as many more into the Fauci Ouchie Club as possible before.
I like the new term “needle rape”.
"Relax and enjoy it!"
Did you just seriously say, “Fauci Ouchie Club”? Your writing staff is slipping.
Pretty sure the term comes straight from Colbert and Kimmel, and is used by leftists to celebrate their obedience
Mike must've missed that on her talking points memo.
DuckDuckGo "Fauci Ouchie Pouchie" and prepare to be amazed
Eee, no thanks.
https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1438288487904694276
Wow. American Airlines kicked a 2 year old boy with asthma off a plane and had police waiting for him + his mom because a power tripping flight attendant Carl lost his humanity. The last thing you’d do to a child suffering from an asthma attack is force a mask on them.
The last thing you’d do to a child suffering from an asthma attack is force a mask on them.
"Are you kidding?! What worse super spreader event than an *asthma attack*?!"
Obama's naked face party?
Is there a prize for guessing right?
Wrong answer. Remember that Democratic elites and devout socialists are immune from COVID.
Their sophistication acts as a sterilizing vaccine. Covid is awestruck by it and seeks out masked waiters to feed on.
You're immune to Covid if you wear the (D). It's a magic charm that protects you from virions and criticism.
And economics.
Suddenly, discount airlines with fewer restrictions or just driving is looking a lot more appealing. Not sure where Dad was, as the father of a infant with asthma, they would've needed at least two more officers to deal with the situation. Maybe a third to help Carl pick his teeth out of his mask.
You do not attack fascists head on during the early days.
We will never know exactly when Carl disappeared, but one day he will just be gone.
Not a lot of things really bug/trigger me. I spent a lot of time forcing the nebulizer mask on my infant son against his will to get him his albuterol and budesonide. Carl's well-being after I depart the plane would've been someone else's problem.
Just driving? That's why cars must be banned.
Only trains and buses for proles.
Masking two year olds is absurd, even when they don't have health issues like asthma. Toddlers are completely irrational and impossible to reason with. If a two year old decides she's not going to do something, good luck trying to convince her otherwise. And that's not even talking about poorly disciplined children. Even the best behaved toddler can be a real asshole sometimes, and they usually choose to do it at the most inconvenient times.
It can be a rough time with kids, when they're two years old. They are terrible sometimes. Somebody should come up with a name for it, something catchy, so people would understand that young kids are a handful and maybe stop with the fucking draconian overreaction. Hmm, terrible, two, terrible, two. No, got nothing.
You really have to wonder if any of these assholes are parents. Toddlers are gonna do what they're gonna do and short of child abuse, there's not a lot you can do about it. I have always thought that the terrible twos are part of a primal evolutionary process. If you can refrain from murdering the kid your genes live on. If not good riddance to your bloodline.
Toddlers are gonna do what they’re gonna do and short of child abuse, there’s not a lot you can do about it.
Yeah, I may've missed it because of skimming, but they don't really go over the "You're going to have to pin your children down, even risk hurting them, in order to get them to wear pants." in What To Expect When You're Expecting.
And, in the vein of full disclosure, the terrible twos are just the start. There's a not-nonexistent chance you'll have to perp walk your kid to their room after they're taller than you are. Plan accordingly.
Aside from the asthma issue, a crying screaming toddler in a mask is producing a helluva lot more particulate than an unmasked child sitting quietly.
These people are so stupid it defies belief.
Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, the first openly gay man elected governor in the United States, has married his longtime partner in the first same-sex marriage for a sitting governor...
WHERE DID THEY GET THE CAKE?
Prison labor?
The cake fairy?
Hopefully the Colorado Guard rounded up all the Christians and forced them to bake it in the form of a giant penis penetrating a bum.
More importantly, who cares? Not celebrating everything as some amazing happening is a good step toward what equality looks like.
But that means focusing our adult conversations on things that matter (and are hard) instead of middle school gossip.
^ This.
But pandering and virtue signaling are far more important than “progressing” toward equality.
And this is why progs are America’s most horrible people. I read that somewhere. Haha.
They didn't have cake. It is impossible for a gay couple in Colorado to buy a cake. This is why all bakers must be taken over by the state.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2021/09/16/bush-completes-his-scummy-betrayal-n2595936?160
Bush got up on the 9/11 anniversary and proceeded to demonstrate, again, the essentiality of class in American society. Not “class” in the sense that he is classy; Bush, though it was very important to him to front that he has such class, in fact, has none. No, the “class” that is important to W is social class. He once again chose his country club pals over you and compounded it by issuing a disgusting blood libel against you. That’s his “thank you” for the thankless job of defending his worthless rear-end we did for all those years back when he was too gentlemanly to do it himself.
By “extremists at home,” he means you people who didn’t clap for his brother when Jeb! said “Please.” You had Bush’s back, for years, and he has planted another dagger in yours. Now, normally I’d be fine with forgetting about this historical footnote and leave him to paint his cruddy watercolors of some of the people he got maimed through his wretched incompetence. But his perfidy calls for a more decisive response.
The Bush name must be scrubbed from our politics.
His puffball brother Jeb! is currently cavorting with “conservative climate activists,” perhaps imagining that since Republicans don’t want him, maybe Democrats will. And now there’s another Bush, George P. Bush, who’s the son of one of them, trying to make it in Texas politics. He says the right things, and may be a good guy (he was in the Navy through the sons-of-rich-guys direct commissioning program), but then we once thought the other ones were good guys too and they sold us out. This latest scion’s budding career must be ruthlessly destroyed as a lesson to others. He is disqualified by his name; dynasties are bad, and bad dynasties are intolerable
dynasties are bad, and bad dynasties are intolerable..
Except the Clinton dynasty. Totes cool if Chelsea wants to run.
"Totes cool if Chelsea wants to run."
Ideally, she will run far, far, away.
And down a pier.
Bush also equated mostly peaceful protestors asking for an election audit with terrorists who killed 3,000 people.
Fuck both George Bushs and Fuck Joe Biden also.
FUCK JOE BIDEN
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul is set to sign a bill that "gives more leniency for parolees and could mean the release of inmates locked up on technical parole violations."
See all that you can accomplish when you're not killing grandmas and feeling up underlings?
Governor who?
The Biden administration is working to distribute booster shots to people who have already been vaccinated--at taxpayer expense. Unfortunately, for the Biden administration, science and its own FDA appears to be getting in the way.
"The Food and Drug Administration said vaccines cleared in the U.S. currently provide sufficient protection against severe disease and death from Covid-19 without additional doses, potentially complicating the Biden administration’s deliberations over the need for booster shots.
The FDA released the findings Wednesday in a report analyzing data submitted by Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE as part of their request for authorization for their vaccine to be given as a booster shot in people 16 years and older.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fda-says-covid-19-vaccines-remain-effective-without-boosters-11631726504?
You may find this hard to believe, but Pfizer and Moderna, apparently, favor using taxpayer money to give their booster shots to hundreds of millions of Americans--because science!
There's an FDA committee meeting later today to discuss their recommendation, and the CDC is releasing its own recommendation next week, which makes me wonder. If the FDA disagrees with the recommendations of the CDC, does that make the FDA's recommendation "misinformation"? If the CDC says that booster shots are necessary, and the FDA says they aren't, will we be allowed to discuss the FDA's recommendation on social media, or will the Biden administration shut all discussion down?
SleepyJoe will have all the answers.
I am sure Biden's handlers, fact checkers and pollsters will tell them both what to issue in their reports to avoid any "misinformation".
All kidding aside about the FDA and the CDC defining "misinformation", the studies Pfizer and others have provided showing that people benefit from booster shots is a red herring. And I think the FDA's initial finding reflects that.
The question isn't whether a booster shot increases the effectiveness of the vaccine against death to 99.8% from 99.5%. The question is whether that benefit is justifiable given the expense. And, ultimately, we are talking about achieving herd immunity, here.
From a top down perspective, it doesn't matter if the vaccine is more effective with boosters if we're able to achieve herd immunity without the boosters. And if individuals wish to boost their own immunity by whatever fraction of a percentage point, they should be free to do so--at their own expense.
I remember when HMOs first started offering free breast exams because the cost of treating breast cancer was much higher than the cost of giving everyone at risk free exams. It turned out that the survival rate was much higher and the costs of treatment were much lower when you caught the cancer earlier, too.
You couldn't get those breast exams for free on Medicaid and Medicare because you needed a symptom to justify the expense of the exam. The resulting difference in costs and the survival rate between breast cancer patients in HMOs and Medicaid/Medicare were so embarrassing to the government, they finally started offering free breast exams, too.
Point being, private insurers have a similar incentive to avoid things like costly hospitalizations and deaths to treat Covid-19 patients, but I doubt they would offer booster shots for free to their patients who are already vaccinated. The question isn't whether there's any benefit. The question is whether the benefit justifies the costs.
This is an important discussion that is being actively avoided. Nobody is asking these questions.
I finally found an answer to my question about having the virus vs the vaccine for providing immunity. Appropriate you would say natural immunity is far superior to the vaccine... But nobody was saying that. They won't even mention natural immunity. Just vaccines.
Well, the number is: surviving a case of Covid-19 is 33 times more effective at protecting against future infections.
So.... Why are we not tracking the percentage who have cleared the virus? Why is 70% vaccination rate among eligible Americans the metric? Why are we not talking about total herd immunity?
Yes, the government is paying for the vaccine doses, and they shouldn’t.
But can you acknowledge that the people at these pharma companies may actually have the motive of genuinely wanting to help people along with their motive of making a profit?
Lol. Parody right?
Is it just me or is Dee getting dumber?
He justifies government authoritarianism the same way "they are doing it to help you."
Yes, the stock price to caring for people ratio is important.
I'm sure there are people within the organization that care. That doesn't stop the organization as whole from acting in an entirely self centered way.
Since when do libertarians have a problem with businesses wanting to make a profit? Isn't that how Progressives, who Ken has told us many times are the "worst people", think?
Who is making the argument profit is bad?
Why does it take the US government fucking months to figure out if another dose is needed or not, while the Israelis decided this like in like April? They’ll have had their 3rd shot by the end of next month, while our fucking government picks their nose.
They probably need to generate their own data. My understanding was that the Israeli data was inconclusive in terms of whether the benefit was worth the costs. They were just arguing that a booster shot was beneficial to some extent because it boosted the level of antibodies.
That isn't the question. The vaccine companies would love to make that the end of the argument, but it isn't. The question is whether you're more likely to end the pandemic by financing boosters with taxpayer money. That money might be better spent on outreach rather than booster shots!
Who here thinks that boosting the already vaccinated is more important than getting the unvaccinated vaccinated?
According to the link below the effectiveness of the vaccines against severe illness (requiring hospitalization) breaks down as follows:
Pfizer-BioNTech: 97%
Moderna: 95%
Johnson & Johnson: 87%
The effectiveness of this vaccine may break down over time against infection--but the effectiveness against severe illness requiring hospitalization doesn't appear to be the issue. You're more likely to get the flu without a booster? Okay.
Isn't the real issue about the unvaccinated though? Wouldn't the resources we'd use to give everyone boosters be better spent on decreasing the number of unvaccinated people? In fact, wouldn't the vaccinated be even better off if more unvaccinated people were vaccinated--so we achieved herd immunity and really helped us avoid getting the flu at all?
These are the questions the FDA is asking, and they're right to aske them. I strongly suspect politics will get involved, but they seem to be asking the right questions. It's just that the vaccine companies are framing the question in a way that may lead to a tremendous amount of money being spent on their products at taxpayer expense--but the questions are also being framed in a way that isn't answer the really important questions, like whether the benefit derived from the vaccine is worth the cost to the taxpayers.
The legitimate purpose of government is not to minimize the chances of you getting the flu--no matter the expense. If you want an extra flu shot to make sure you don't get the flu, go buy yourself a flu shot.
https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison
I have read a couple of reviews on the difference between mucosal and internal infectious responses, and the differences between Immunoglobulin A and Immunoglobulin G. Some medical researchers have recognized how the vaccines stimulate these to different degrees and with different longevity. And one interpretation suggests that mucosal immunity decays faster, and so vaccinated people can still get COVID infections (but not as susceptible as unvaccinated unless previously infected*), but their internal immunity is still very effective, so they are much less likely for COVID to spread through their bodies and cause serious illness and death.
*At least one study suggested that previous infection induced greater and more durable mucosal immunity.
“……might be better spent on outreach….”
No. Please. There’s been enough “outreach”. In fact, it’s morphed into threats.
Fuck outreach. Self righteous zealots never stop there.
Open your heart! I’d like to reach out to you!
They not spending money fast enough for you?
I thought we libertarians have always criticized the FDA for being too slow, but I've so many commenters here claim that the FDA approved the COVID-19 vaccines too quickly. It's almost like many commenters here are right-wing partisans spouting right-wing talking points, not libertarians.
Stop using the word we. You are not one.
Ken you have confused Conservative Scientism with Reformed Scientism.
Please elaborate.
Poor third world nations need the shots more than twice-vaccinated Americans. I will reserve my booster shots for them.
Here's the Moderna data on breakthrough cases:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/15/covid-booster-shots-moderna-releases-data-on-breakthrough-cases-backing-need-for-third-doses.html
"There were 88 identified breakthrough cases out of 11,431 people vaccinated between December and March, the company said in a release, compared with 162 breakthrough cases out of 14,746 trial participants vaccinated in July through October of last year."
So about a 1% chance of getting sick, despite the shot.
"Three Covid-19 related hospitalizations occurred in the group that got the shots early on, resulting in two deaths, according to the data. There were no hospitalizations or deaths in the group that recently received the vaccine, although the finding on severe cases was not statistically significant."
So a 0.01% chance of getting seriously ill despite the shot. Time for mandatory boosters every 5 months!
So a 0.01% chance of getting seriously ill despite the shot."
There's a ramp up phase after you're vaccinated and before you achieve maximum immunity. Even with the J&J one-shot vaccine, we're talking about two weeks. At least some of those people who got seriously ill despite the shot may have been infected after they were vaccinated but before they achieved maximum immunity.
Also, sometimes things don’t work as well as hoped. Nothing is perfect. People are individuals, and can react differently to the same medication.
So about a 1% chance of getting sick, despite the shot.
That is among the population of the vaccinated during the height of the lockdowns. Not very comparable to today's experience.
And, just to be clear, it tells us absolutely nothing about how the vaccinated fare in a known exposure to COVID.
Meanwhile, based on the what I have read, after recovering from COVID a month ago, I would volunteer to assist someone quarantined with COVID.
The advisory panel advised against widespread boosters:
https://apnews.com/article/fda-panel-rejects-widespread-pfizer-booster-shots-1cd1cf6a5c5c02b63f8a7324807a59f1
They're trying to figure out how to say we need boosters without saying that the first jabs were a failure.
It's not tech companies that have 'seemingly invincible power,' it's the government that does...
On top of that, companies regularly rent that power for use against competition.
Central to President Joe Biden's plan to hike federal spending by $3.5 trillion is a promise that middle-class Americans won't face a tax increase. That's a claim that is looking less and less true with each passing day...
Inflation is a tax.
The Democrats never made secret about what they actually are. Any 'libertarian's' acting shocked are either faking it or incredibly niave.
Ya think?
https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/
As are lower wages, fewer hours, higher prices, etc.
Protection around the capitol vs. protection at the border
https://twitter.com/kelseybolar/status/1438634842980241412
We must protect Nancy’s desk!
Yes but look at all the constant iNsurrEction by the plebs lately. And nobody ever does anything illegal at the border.
Priorities, man, priorities.
"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny; but when the government fears the people, there is LIBERTY." - Thomas Jefferson
I guess Thomas never anticipated a group like the modern ruling class who manage to be both tyrannical and fearful.
Well, they've figured out how to trick people into thinking that their problems are all caused by a virus rather than the insane reaction to it and thus change the target of the fear from where it belongs.
https://twitter.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1438648691469004801
Thousands of Haitians show up at the same border crossing. Sure. That just happened on its own. Nobody else had a hand in that. Just a bunch of random oppressed people fleeing oppression.
"Two dozen state attorneys general are threatening to sue over Biden's proposed workplace vaccine/testing mandate."
Do they have standing? I wonder.
Oh, they can probably find a Federal Judge who'll state they do.
If any of those states have their own OSHA department (Maryland has MOSH; not suing though), and the federal government is trying to force this regulation onto them, they probably do.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyers-had-to-explain-how-supreme-court-works-book-2021-9
“Trump's lawyers started by telling him it wouldn't be easy to bring cases alleging voter fraud because they'd need to demonstrate standing — a legal principle stipulating that a party must prove the laws or actions it's challenging have caused it harm or injury — to get before a judge.”
Biden literally instituted a rule the USSC ruled against weeks prior dumbfuck.
I also like how youndont realize the issue of standing against federal regulations is a long discussed topic and often utilized by feds to avoid judicial scrutiny.
Standing is a genius invention. They can bootstrap their way into our out of any issue with that.
Yes.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/09/election-officials-dont-know-what-happened-15-j-christian-adams/
Based on data from the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, an analysis by the Public Interest Legal Foundation shows almost 15 million mail ballots effectively disappeared after election officials gave them to the U.S. Postal Service to deliver to voters.
Gone, like the Bermuda Triangle of the election.
Some of the mail ballots may have ended up on the floors of apartment complexes. Some were sent to deceased registrants. Some went to addresses where the registrant no longer lives. Some may have gone to vacant lots and businesses. Some, having never been requested by the voter, were never returned.
In 2020, we put the election in the hands of the people who regularly deliver you your neighbor’s mail.
The data also shows that an additional 1.1 million ballots were sent to the wrong addresses in 2020 – the U.S. Postal Service saying they were “undeliverable.” Think on that. One million ballots went to the wrong house or apartment.
Maybe, maybe not.
But the important part is they all were counted.
16 million isn't widespread or enough to make a difference or a conspiracy.
C'mon, man!
Since we have not heard an uproar, I will assume that they did not go missing in minority neighborhoods.
Opinion | The Dangerous Legal Illusion of ‘Parental Rights’
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/09/03/no-parent-right-unmask-child-509090
It takes a village.
Or just a mob.
talk about letting the mask slip..
these people are stalinists through and through and would cheerfully file you into the gulag, you and your kids both.
On another thread yesterday I was discussing mandating vacinnes with soldiermedic and Diane and the possibilities of doing so for immigrants. Soldier opposed though he was typically outraged - when isn't he? - that Biden hadn't announced that with his recent program for mandates. I noted that I expected that to happen, favored it, though no doubt legal challenges would occur (as they will for all the announced mandates. I was derided for making excuses, I guess for it not happening immediately, or something. Soldier gets cranked up easily and won't take yes for an answer.
Anyway, here it is. A legal challenge to requiring vaccines at the border, as I predicted.
Oh gosh! You are so smart! Can I sign up for your newsletters?
It'll cost you.
If you handed them out, they'd be used as ass-wipes, lefty shit.
" Soldier opposed though he was typically outraged – when isn’t he?"
Go fuck yourself Mike, and quit sockpuppeting to escape harrassment allegations.
I think you're confusing me with your delirium tremors.
It's called delirium tremens, just ask sarc. And no, it's definitely your mute-evading ass, White Mike.
The pseudo-intellectual prattle, the grandstanding, the bitter little attacks against Soldiermedic and Ken for making you look like an idiot. All classic White Mike.
"...attacks against Soldiermedic and Ken for making you look like an idiot..."
Really need to be careful here to note that they (and others) do not make it *appear* this steaming pile of lefty shit is an idiot; they simply show that the asshole *IS* such.
We should hope that some progressive is out there is paying her to make progressives look willfully stupid in the eyes of libertarians. It's a dream come true!
Think of all the destructive things progressives could be doing with those resources. Instead, they send this person here to make progressives look stubbornly stupid.
To be fair though, I think they send us the dumber ones because Reason is small potatoes relatively. The smarter ones end up in bigger comment sections like HuffPo and Buzzfeed.
"...Soldier opposed though he was typically outraged – when isn’t he? –"
Pile of lefty shit boot-licker amazed others do not like crawling on their knees!
And proceeds to BRAG about it!
How stupid is lefty boot-licker? Well he can't seem to tell the difference between those boots and the pile lefty by the dog that just went by.
soldiermedic76 can be, at times, a thoughtful, civil person who you can have a real discussion with. And then at other times he joins in with the Trump Mean Girls clique.
He is a veteran (not sure if he’s an Afghan veteran) and I think he said his son is, too. Something happened during the Afghanistan withdrawal where he got really emotional (which is understandable). But I had to mute him because he started acting really irrational and angry.
Lol. Not fooling anyone white Mike. Remember this?
Mike Laursen
July.31.2021 at 12:03 pm
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White Knight pointed out, correctly, that you are very logical, but quite unaware that you often engage in not seeking out information that goes against your narratives, garbage-in/garbage-out logic, and not checking your conclusions for basic sanity. You should have listened to White Knight.
You're not fooling anyone replying to your own sock. You have a lot of unique grammatical tics that carry over and make it obviously you.
"soldiermedic76 can be, at times, a thoughtful, civil person who you can have a real discussion with. And then at other times he joins in with the Trump Mean Girls clique..."
s76 is consistently civil, to those who deserve it and even to those who don't when they try to act as if they were lefty assholes and victims of raging TDS.
Other's of us simply deliver what lefty assholes and victims of raging TDS even when they are pretending.
Just for the record, one of the real benefits of an open borders treaty with Mexico would be that if everyone were able to cross the border at a checkpoint, just by showing an ID, the only people sneaking through the desert at night would be the bad guys. We could associate that ID with proof of vaccination for various communicable diseases, and this would help make our border more secure than it is now. Right now we have 1.64 million people being arrested for coming across the border illegally, and no one is checking their immunization status for anything until after they're arrested.
I maintain that the legitimate purpose of government is to protect our rights, and the legitimate purpose of our border policy is to protect our rights from things like people carrying communicable diseases.
So, COVID-19 is more than just the flu when it resides in Mexican lungs?
So long standing immigration precedence dating back to Ellis Island include screening for disease and becoming a public charge?
If the CDC has a legitimate purpose, it's to protect our rights against epidemics, too. If a Republican argued that the government has no interest in enacting policies to protect us amid a pandemic, the progressives howls would deafening. Make the question about immigration, and suddenly, the government has no business interfering in a pandemic? This is most likely the result of progressives picking positions and trying to rationalize them after the fact. It's part of what makes progressives come across as ignorant and stupid.
Ken, I am a centrist democrat, which makes me a progressive to you i expect, and I fully support vaccine mandates at the border and I'd bet money the Biden administration will announce that soon as well. The ACLU is complaining about not enough shots being available at the border, their emphasis on the right of immigrants to be vaccinated for sure. Remember, plenty of red states have vaccine policies for school kids as tough as anywhere in the country, and except for this current Trumpist inspired anti-Vaxx BS, public health has not been a partisan issue.
"Ken, I am a centrist democrat,..."
Read "raging, brain-dead proggy asshole with a near fatal case of TDS".
Are there frogs on this board? Keep hearing primitive guttural grunts that don't make any sense.
That's your shitting on threads, asshole.
Tell your family to shut the fuck up, then, and those sounds will stop.
You make the same claims as Mike as well. Weird.
Pointing out inconsistency of demanding citizens be vaccinated while excluding migrants in federal custody isn't outrage, no matter how many times you say it is.
"We are likely to have seen 1.64 million such apprehensions by this month's end of fiscal 2021, even as opponents absurdly accuse the president of pursuing 'open borders' policies."
They're trying to do something about the Dreamers in the budget reconciliation bill, and the Senate parliamentarian is still deliberating on whether immigration status is a legitimate budget reconciliation matter. However, I doubt letting 1.64 million people into the country on an annual basis is something the Biden administration will seriously consider. The courts may have kicked the stool out from under that justification, but they'll find another justification to keep these people out.
There are 1.6 million people in Philadelphia.
The Biden administration is going to allow population of Philadelphia to move into the country every year--people who are destitute and looking for work--and the unions behind the Democratic party are in favor of this illegal immigration? Sooner or later, reality comes for everybody, and the progressives are no exception. The AFL-CIO has been strongly in favor of legalizing illegal immigrants so they can be organized. Letting 1.6 illegal aliens into the country per year may be a bridge too far.
The important thing is, how much more wealth will Charles Koch be able to accumulate with all that low cost labor?
Low cost labor isn't a problem to my eye. Working moms looking for cheap child care, elderly people looking for cheap lawncare, and small businesses looking for cheap dishwashers all benefit from cheap labor, too. Cheap labor is like cheap energy for the economy. Labor is a resource, and having more of it available for less is a good thing--but the unions behind the Democratic party don't see it that way.
Generally, they support amnesty and oppose illegal immigration. 90% of the asylum seekers from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras either don't make a claim of persecution, never show up for their hearing, or are denied asylum by a judge. Most of them become illegal immigrants. The unions want to organize all that cheap labor once it becomes legal so the illegal aliens won't be dragging the wages of labor down.
Some of this is just PR moves on the Democrats', too. Just because they want to accuse Trump and Republicans of xenophobia, doesn't mean they're on board with infuriating low wage Democratic voters. The relationship of the African-American community to illegal immigration is complicated, and one study doesn't exactly tell the whole picture, but, generally speaking, illegal immigration hasn't historically been a positive thing for unskilled African-American workers.
And it's been that way for a long time.
"The 1980-2000 immigrant influx, therefore, generally 'explains' about 20 to 60 percent of the decline in wages, 25 percent of the decline in employment, and about 10 percent of the rise in incarceration rates among blacks with a high school education or less."
----National Bureau of Economic Research
https://www.nber.org/digest/may07/effects-immigration-african-american-employment-and-incarceration
Pro-Palestine protests allowed outside synagogue... "The American Civil Liberties Union filed a brief in support of the activists, saying the protests are entitled to protection even if 'offensive, upsetting and distasteful,'"
Questions for our resident lefties:
1. Is the synagogue a representative of the state of Israel?
There's a lot of lefties here saying "Im not antisemitic, I'm just against what the Israelis are doing. By protesting a synagogue instead of the Israeli embassy, this action seems to be exposing that excuse as a falsehood.
2. Does this mean that pro-lifer can now protest in front of abortion clinics? It's been forbidden in many states, and some protesters have been jailed for decades for refusing to recant.
Does this also mean it's okay for the Klan to protest for 'white rights' in front of a black church? Can homosexuals protest Iranian hangings in front of a mosque?
Further, suddenly when it comes to Jews, feelings don't matter as long as physical prevention or disruption doesn't occur. Bullying, intimidation, Heckler's vetoes, more insidious systematic oppression... all not a concern.
"Can homosexuals protest Iranian hangings in front of a mosque?"
Of course they can; but not for long. And only once.
What's up Peanuts?
Biden elaborates on financial surveillance plan. >/I>
This bullshit is far worse than the SLOPPY PULLOUT!
Fuck Joe Biden
I feel your pain, loser.
loser.
Speaking from experience?
Biden won, Trump lost Red. Of course he's never won a popular vote.
The Taliban won, Biden lost Joe. Of course he thought Afghanistan was the name of the last girl's hair he sniffed.
Red, by Taliban you mean the guys Trump negotiated with without involving the Afghai government who he wanted to bring to Camp David, and who's 5,000 prisoners he got released. Those guys? I think Trump - we call him The Loser - wanted to give them the Lil Kim treatment and ask them for a date.
Joe, by Taliban I mean the guys who made your guy their bitch last month.
Joe knows all about losers because he sees them often. It's called a mirror.
Good one Red. We all know how different it would have been after Trump went out on a date with them all. Hey, he'd cut our forces to 2500, jail broke 5k of them, and a hand job was next on that menu.
"...Hey, he’d cut our forces to 2500, jail broke 5k of them, and a hand job was next on that menu..."
Fucking fantasy from steaming pile of lefty shit. None are capable of posting without one or the other of their fave strawmen.
Hey, asshole, Trump had a functioning agreement in hand, to which all parties we complying, had already drawn troop levels down to the lowest in 20 years, and then drollin' Joe decides in favor of a 9/11 victory lap instead and tears up the plan! Making sure we get a self-administered ass-kicking!
Here, shit-for-brains (assuming you can read), take a look:
https://nypost.com/2021/08/19/i-ran-trumps-afghan-withdrawal-bidens-attempt-to-blame-us-is-sad/
Funny stuff coming from a member of the administration which unlike any before it in modern times refused to grant access to the incoming administration, and specifically to information about the draw down in Afghanistan until January. The Afghan government was cut out of any deals, much as Patel pretends otherwise.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/biden-pentagon-transition-460768
Cope, seethe, and dilate.
"Funny stuff coming from a member of the administration which unlike any before it in modern times refused to grant access to the incoming administration,.."
Yeah, next, as a steaming pile of lefty shit, you'll be telling us that the media was biased toward Trump, right?
How does that BS from politico square with the General conducting foreign relations around Trump?
Well, the answer might be found here:
" ...most of whom spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive conversations..."
Stuff it up your ass to keep your head company, pile of lefty shit.
BTW, lefty shit, you ought to read the entire politico link; 'normal for', secret info is not often shared', etc.
Keep grasping for straws, asshole; your rep is growing.
Biden won, the world lost, steaming pile of lefty shit.
Fuck Joe Biden and Joe Friday.
^
Is that what you call it when you rape little kids, shriek?
turd lies. It's all turd does. If turd posts it, it either is a lie or is based on one.
But turd's dishonesty is not a cause but a symptom if a stupidity so abysmal, turd doesn't even know he's lying; turd is incapable of separating his fantasies for reality.
turd lies.
Maybe, but have you checked the WBNWI (Warren Buffett Net Worth Index) lately? He's up $13.5 billion this year. So Biden's doing a fantastic job.
(For those who don't know, Mr. Buttplug relied on the WBNWI — instead of more traditional metrics like GDP growth — to prove Obama created the strongest economy in US history.)
#LibertariansForBiden
Congrats for voting Senile Joe, reason koch and certain subscribers. The government was failing slowly and now all at once due to your efforts. But please celebrate poor people storming the barricades, first gay marriage governors, and praise ACLU tweets. That'll show em.
Realclearinvestigations has put together a database of all of the charges from jan 6th compared to the BLM riots showing the amount of disparity.
Not only are January 6 defendants generally enduring longer periods behind bars for lesser charges than racial rioters, but some of their lawyers seem to believe judges will treat them more favorably if they publicly recant their political beliefs.
A new RealClearInvestigations database contrasts the January 6 prosecutions, in which "dozens" of defendants have been held in pretrial detention for months, with those of Floyd rioters ("several" long detentions) and long-forgotten rioters at President Trump's inauguration (none).
The treatment disparity is obvious despite the far more assaults, murders, vandalism, etc at the blm riots.
Now Pelosi is putting up the fences around the Capitol again for a march highlighting the political disparity of treatment.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/justice-j6-rally-puts-spotlight-evidence-political-motivations
Is bill maher slowly getting redpilled?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/bill-maher-liberal-media-scared-s-out-of-people-over-covid-democrats-afraid-to-leave-home
“I have to cite a survey that was in The New York Times, which is a liberal paper, so they weren’t looking for this answer,” Maher said after talking about some of the cities that he is going to be touring in the near future. “But they were talking about this, the question was, what do you think the chances are that you would have to go to the hospital if you got COVID. And Democrats thought that was way higher than Republicans. 41% of Democrats, and the answer is between one and five percent.”
“41% of Democrats thought it was over 50%, another 28% thought it was 20 to 49%. So 70% of Democrats thought it was way, way, way higher than it really was,” Maher continued. “Liberal media has to take a little responsibility for that, for scaring the s*** out of people.”
I enjoy listening to redpilled lefties like Bret Weinstein, Russell Crow, Jordan Peterson (yes, he was the youth leader for the NDP, FFS), Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald, far more than to American right-wingers.
Maybe because they reflect my own ideological journey.
Same
Maher is like that crazy uncle for liberals. They can sort of tolerate his deviations from the correct narrative, but only for a couple of hours at Thanksgiving.
The moderate, older and left-leaning, yes. Progressives, from what I have seen, cannot tolerate him.
"The Biden administration can't keep expelling migrant families ---"
"for banning border crossings and immediately expelling anyone caught entering the country."
So which statement is true - "immigrants" or "anyone" ?
Perhaps Reason only cares about those that are immigrants.
Does the above represent an error OR IMHO the bias and propaganda that reason exploits to promote its pro-immigration position ?
With "the wide availability of testing, vaccines, and other minimization measures, the Court is not convinced that the transmission of COVID-19 during border processing cannot be significantly mitigated," the new ruling says.
Yet Psaki readily admitted illegal immigrants are not forced to receive vaccines even as Biden institutes requirements on citizens.
As noted, ICE has an aggressive vacination policy at the southern border, but it is a matter of choice still. It's about 70-30% getting vs not getting the shot. I predict it most likely mandates at the border will be become Biden policy, but as with his other vaccine mandates, legal challenges will need to be overcome.
"aggressive vaccination policy"
Fuck off and die, asshole.
As noted youre white Mike.
I'm not Mike Jesse, whoever that is, but do you guys tolerate people like Sevo here?
Doesn't speak well for the board, especially for a magazine called "Reason".
it's a libertarian message board, what the hell do you expect?
Reason?
You're getting exactly what reason suggests, steaming pile of lefty shit.
"Whoever that is" in a thread you are using that username. Lol.
"...but do you guys tolerate people like Sevo here?..."
Question is why in the world does your family and/or dog tolerate a steaming pile of shit like you?
Soldier opposed though he was typically outraged – when isn’t he?
I’m not Mike Jesse, whoever that is
Refers to soldiermedic, an infrequent poster, as if he knows his temperment above (and gets it wrong), but here denies recognizing White Mike, a daily poster, and acts like this is his first exposure to Sevo.
I refuse to participate in your childishly stupid trolling, whoever the fuck you are.
Start working on your next nom de plume, shitstain. Your dreck is obvious from the first post and we'll mute that as well.
It was literally the worst way to handle the response outside of straight admission to being Mike.
I post in spurts. I'll post a lot for awhile and then take time off. It really depends on how busy I am and how much interest I have in the subject. Joe is just pissed because he can't counter any of my arguments so instead he has to disparage my intentions. I can of several other posters like that, and yes Mike is one of them.
Oh and even though I muted Mike I see he is still making me an honorary member of the mean girls club. I feel so blessed. I would like to thank Jesus, my mother, my wife and kids for whom I wouldn't be here without them.
The ACLU's position is that closing the border during a pandemic is an imposition on thy he civil liberties of people illegally crossing the border. Also, the ACLU thinks that requiring vaccinations of citizens and legal residents in order to fully participate in society is not an infringement of civil liberties, but a protection of them.
Can we think about the logical contradictions?
Reread 1984.
“the ACLU thinks that requiring vaccinations of citizens and legal residents in order to fully participate in society is not an infringement of civil liberties, but a protection of them.”
Have they made a statement saying this? Can you cite it?
Found a statement:
https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/civil-liberties-and-vaccine-mandates-heres-our-take/
You are correct about their taking a pro-mandate position. I could see their saying mandates are a public health necessity, but going so far to say they promote civil liberty is a ludicrous argument.
Yet that ludricous statement is
in the opening sentence of the article.
The ACLU statement reads like an intersectional judgement of "rights" not based on universal ethical values but on victimhood potential. Fuck them.
Look up a news and commentary article on http://www.aclu.org entitled "Civil Liberties and Vaccine Mandates: Here's Our Take"
U.S. District Court Judge Emmet G. Sullivan ruled yesterday that Title 42 doesn't justify this policy and, beginning two weeks from the order, the administration will have to give migrant families an opportunity to seek asylum here.
Emmitt quickly followed up by calling Flynn a traitor demanding prosecutors continue to go after him even in the face of massive Brady violations. /s
Sullivan is a full blown whack job.
Brief summary of Milley pandering for China.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/milley-checkered-history-china-afghan-withdrawal-crt
"But the congregants have not alleged that the protesters ever blocked them from using their synagogue or that the protests were even audible from inside the building," wrote Judge Jeffrey Sutton in the court's opinion, rejecting a 1,000-foot buffer zone proposed by the congregants.
So a shooting range next to a Mosque is kosher, constintutionally-protected even, as long as everybody uses silencers.
With Bin-Laden targets?
Sounds like a winner to me. And silencers should be not only allowed, but needs to be encouraged as a habit and a culture with gun owners...all voluntary, of course.
I'm 100% pro-Right to Keep and Bear Arms, but I, like others, am also concerned with hearing as I age. A pro-silencer policy and culture would address both needs for everybody. I'm sure many Veterans and others with PTSD would love a pro-silencer gun culture too.
So what say you, gun owners? Stand up and speak up for your rights, but keep the gun on the hush. Sound like winner?
“Silencers” don’t work like they show in the movies.
A rolled down car window generates enough noise to damage your hearing over time. I would wear hearing protection even with a suppressor. It is more friendly for neighborhoods.
More practice means safety, if you can get the ammo...
Mormons shouldn’t have guns. They’re too stupid to use them safely.
flag for asshole
Get woke, go broke, #79861050
"The country's most ambitious effort for a worker-centric restaurant is dead, including in Oakland"
[...]
"Restaurant Opportunities Center United, the national restaurant worker nonprofit, has pulled the plug on its ambitious but embattled Colors restaurant — in Oakland and across the country, a spokesperson for the organization confirmed to The Chronicle.
It’s a reversal for the worker-centric restaurant with an equity mission, which had planned locations in Washington, D.C., and New Orleans, in addition to the now-shuttered outposts in New York City and Detroit. Though ROC United and Colors faced accusations of discrimination and wage theft, respectively, the nonprofit had always said the restaurant expansion plan would continue...."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/food/article/The-country-s-most-ambitious-effort-for-a-16462448.php?cmpid=gsa-sfgate-result
The print version had more, but in general, it was based on the assumption that restaurant owners were exploiting the workers, to the outfit over-paid, guaranteed tips, handed out benies like they were candy. And went broke.
And that puts a smile on my face: Any time commie shits get bitch-slapped by economic reality makes for a god day!
Progressive economics:
Cost to prepare a meal, $100.
Price to serve a meal, $10.
Chance to virtue signal, priceless (while it lasts).
Wasn't there another restaurant in some other blue cesspool that was based on letting people pay whatever they thought was fair for the food?
Of course, they went tits up in a matter of months.
"Wasn’t there another restaurant in some other blue cesspool that was based on letting people pay whatever they thought was fair for the food?"
It's axiomatic that the buyers set the price for any good, but that has to be considered before the seller spends capital to provide the goods.
"The American Civil Liberties Union filed a brief in support of the activists, saying the protests are entitled to protection even if 'offensive, upsetting and distasteful,'" notes the Associated Press.
Unless those activists are even the slightest bit critical of endangered races, sexes, classes, feelings, or associated government programs.
there is no more justification for emergency measures against COVID-19.
Hospitals in Idaho just went into triage mode yesterday, rationing care.
Are you just ignoring the analysis coming even from The Atlantic?
Just look at what White Mike 'forgot' to add.
Not because of an actual need or significant rise in cases but because it is "anticipated" by the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare.
https://magicvalley.com/news/local/idaho-is-now-in-statewide-mass-casualty-triage-mode-due-to-covid-surge/article_f23e390c-975d-538c-881b-73529f855077.html
It is the same as last year. They are basically reducing voluntary and scheduled surgeries as a precaution due to them admitting mild cases for covid as per The Atlantic.
Stupid mike is saying the vaccines don’t work.
THE UNITED STATES ANNOUNCES NEARLY $64 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL
RANSOMHUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE FOR AFGHANISTANFor Immediate Release
Monday, September 13, 2021
https://www.usaid.gov/node/422416
Recon the going rate is $1M/head? Pretty sure droolin' Joes has to ask one of his handlers.
ENB failed to mention that Judge Sullivan (who just ruled that illegal immigrants cannot be expelled) was the same far left wing Judge who illegally prosecuted Michael Flynn for years (after the DOJ prosecutors repeatedly told Sullivan that Flynn committed no crime).
ENB also failed to mention that Sullivan said he'd retire after being correctly criticized for his mishandling of the Flynn case.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/d-c-federal-judge-emmet-sullivan-to-retire-biden-to-fill-seat
The narrative: it doesn’t fit it.
https://twitter.com/flyawaymike/status/1438865287592480771
The amount of NOTAMs I get notifying a TFR for Biden's Delaware visit is getting insane. I swear it's just about weekly at this point. Call it conspiritorial but I have to wonder if this is an attempt to skirt having doctors sign into the White House logs.
The main reason we got Clinton as president is because Bush lied through his lips about "read my lips" and embarrassed the whole Republican Party that had backed him. Today there is no such thing as embarrassment, and presidents can promise whatever shit they want and no one cares. So what if Biden gets showed to be a bald faced liar, no one cares?
Telling the truth is a matter of character, and as Trump fully demonstrated, character does not matter.
So why does Reason pretend to care that Biden is lying?
Bush broke his promise in order to placate the Democrats who had complete control of Congress who were willing to shut down the government if they did not get their way. The pro-tax party got rewarded by a presumably low tax majority electorate for politically maneuvering the President into raising taxes. This led to the Democrat's raising taxes further under Clinton.
How did punishing Bush work out for the electorate wanting relatively low taxes?
That was my first introduction to deliberate partisan lies by the media.
The democrats said they would attach tax increases to every bill and shut down the government until Bush broke his pledge. They openly said this was to make him break his promise so they could win an election. I know this because Tom Brokkaw, Peter Jennings et. al. Told me so.
Then, when he finally did sign a bill with a tax increase attached, Brokaw, Jennings, et. al. told me that bush was untrustworthy, had been willing to shut the government down and broke his promise.
They also ran a story about how terrible the economy was, every single day of his administration. There was a brief recession. By the election of 1992, the economy was roaring. They continued to tell me that we were in a great depression all the way through election day.
I thought it was egregious. But that was when I was young, and the last 12 years had not happened yet.
Trump fully demonstrated, character does not matter
Or people wanted a character more than someone with character.
The main reason we got Clinton as president ...
Was Ross Perot, full stop
^
The main reason we got Clinton as president is because Bush lied through his lips about “read my lips”
I'm trying to compare that to Biden's "we don't have the authority to require vaccine passports".
On the scale of lies, I'd say Biden's is a 15 on the Richter scale, compared to Bush's 4.
Just checking: "migrant" is the new "illegal border crossing criminal"?
https://twitter.com/waitwhatweird/status/1438887803044118530
Let’s move the children…that seems easier. Face without mouth
“Minneapolis school moves to virtual learning due to homeless encampment on its grounds”
Pro-Palestine protests allowed outside synagogue. In Michigan,
Now try a pro-Istrael demonstration outside a mosque. You might get beheaded
But remember they're totally not antisemitic because they're protesting Israel, not the Jews... at an American synagogue ...not the Israeli embassy.
Do you have any evidence they’re being anti-Semitic?
If being critical of Israel is anti Semitic then most Jews I know are anti Semitic.
asshole gets flagged
They're protesting Israel in front of an American Jewish synagogue, you utterly retarded fuck.
Not an Israeli embassy, consulate or trade office, but-a-fucking-American-Jewish-synagogue!
I knew you were a moron but son of a bitch, are you ever an idiot.
Point taken.
Sorry, but you have a history of lying about anti-semitism.
GFY
It's the equivalent of targeting a Hispanic cultural center for protests against Venezuelan socialism or a Historically Black Church for protests against Zimbabwe's economic policies. American Jews don't get to vote in Israeli elections. They are the Jewish diaspora, not an arm of the Israeli government.
I stand corrected
If being critical of Israel is anti Semitic then most Jews I know are anti Semitic.
And yet, no mater how much a Jew might criticize Israel, he still gets targeted for anti-Israel protests.
The income tax and IRS have become just an excuse for massive privacy violations. It has nothing to do with "the rich".
Get rid of the income tax and defund the IRS. Problem solved.
"Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, the first openly gay man elected governor in the United States, has married his longtime partner in the first same-sex marriage for a sitting governor," notes NBC News.
So tiresome. no one cares.
"The Court is not convinced that the transmission of COVID-19 during border processing cannot be significantly mitigated."
Cool, now do American citizens.
Diane, remember your questioning legal challenges to a possible vaccine mandate at the border in yesterday's discussion?
Yep, and it appears that the court was able to invent legal hurdles for non-citizens that don't exist for citizens.
Fascism comes at you with a rainbow flag.
Diane, you can rest assured there will be many legal hurdles for the Biden administration to face with their mandate proposal. Here's hoping they clear them quickly.
Yes why go through all that icky separations of power and instead just jump to executive orders.
Oh right because he wouldn't be able to get the legislative branch to agree to this, like he couldn't get them to extend the eviction moratorium, because we are a constitutional republic and that gives him an excuse to rule by royal decree, uhr I mean executive order.
Two dozen state attorneys general are threatening to sue over Biden's proposed workplace vaccine/testing mandate.
only two dozen? WTF. A country descended from Thomas Jefferson should have 50 of them not just suing but threatening revolution.
I blame public schools. They are designed to mold sheep for the regime and it appears they have succeeded.
"Central to President Joe Biden's plan to hike federal spending by $3.5 trillion is a promise that middle-class Americans won't face a tax increase. That's a claim that is looking less and less true with each passing day," points out Eric Boehm.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Could anyone have thought otherwise?
"Tax the rich" always, ALWAYS, means tax the middle class. That's where the money's at and the rich have their lobbyists while the middel class do not.
Get rid of income tax, for the good of the poor.
Yeah, $12 trillion worth of monetary expansion doesn't impact the poor.... Tell me another story.. Maybe about how there is no inflation, yet many of my staples have more than doubled in cost over the last 2 years....
How the he'll is Sullivan still on the bench? That political hack has violated every tenant of his profession and oath.
"Tenet"
Hey, Zeb!! Cranky old man still waiting for little-boy adolescent asshole to provide example of Trump attempting to be emperor.
I'm pretty sure I never said any such thing. If I did, I retract it because I don't think he did attempt to be emperor.
And you calling anyone out as an asshole is pretty rich. I mostly agree with the things you say, but the over the top anger is a bit much sometimes.
The only way to get rid of a federal judge is impeachment. Not going to happen.
"Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, the first openly gay man elected governor in the United States, has married his longtime partner in the first same-sex marriage for a sitting governor," notes NBC News.
Boy, we are stretching the "firsts" these days aren't we.
It's a religion.
It's a lot like baseball commentators who can always come up with a "first" happening in pretty much any game.
Equality can't be achieved until no one gives a fuck about this shit.
I don't give a shit. Also Fuck Joe Biden.
FDA votes 16 to 2 to not recommend covid booster except for those over 65 or otherwise compromised. Ron Bailey hardest hit.
It was the advisory panel to the FDA, and why do you think Ron has a strong opinion just because he reports on the topic?
"Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, the first openly gay man elected governor in the United States, has married his longtime partner in the first same-sex marriage for a sitting governor," notes NBC News.
The Jerusalem Post's take on this: Colorado Gov. Jared Polis and his partner have Jewish wedding