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Bernie Sanders Is Wrong About Denmark. Tucker Carlson Is Wrong About Hungary.

The two are idolizing the wrong models.

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Ideologues at both political extremes, like Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.) on the left and Fox News host Tucker Carlson on the right, have recently pointed to pet foreign countries as exemplars of what America should strive to be. Yet Sanders and Carlson are each misled by a superficial understanding of what these countries are really about.

As a proud, self-described socialist, Sanders thinks Denmark is a socialist paradise. But in reality, it's far more free-market oriented than most people give it credit for. As a dyed-in-the-tweed conservative, Carlson has let his enchantment with Hungarian President Viktor Orban's tough talk against "the libs" blind him to that "leader's" cruel authoritarianism.

Let's look more closely at Denmark: Yes, the country has some big government policies that Sanders would love to see implemented by Uncle Sam, like a decadent paid leave program along with other mandated family benefits. That said, not only is Denmark more economically free than it is socialist, but the country has also spent the last 30 years running away from the socialism that Sanders wants the United States to run toward.

After experiencing the utter economic disaster brought on by a Sanders-like model of democratic socialism in the 1970s, Denmark substantially reformed and shrank its welfare state, making it easier for employers to hire and fire workers. Its government also introduced some competition into its public schools, a move that labor-union devotee Sanders would never support. Moreover, Denmark reduced taxes, including on capital—which American socialists would like to increase here. Denmark is also more open to international trade than the United States currently is, and more than Sanders would like us to be.

Many voters may not be aware of the full extent of Sanders' ignorance about the reality in Denmark, though conservatives were quite vocal in setting him straight. That included the Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen, who told students at Harvard University in 2015 that "Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy." It's worth noting that in the Heritage Foundation's Index of Economic Freedom, Denmark's rank is 11 while the United States' rank is 20.

Now, fast-forward five years, and the conservatives—or at least a very vocal subgroup of them often referred to as "nationalist conservatives" (although the more accurate label would be "Christian nationalists")—are also being educated by a foreign leader, to wit: Orban. They claim that those critics who call him an authoritarian are wrong.

But let's look at his record: Orban has erected barbed-wire fences to keep out immigrants. That may not bother nationalist conservatives, but he has also co-opted the Hungarian press to serve his regime by putting the press in the hands of loyalists. He also packed the courts and cracked down on academia in the name of combating "woke" liberalism. He has created a patronage economy where licenses and aid are handed to businesses that are friendly to his administration. He even passed a law that gives the state considerable control over churches and other religious institutions.

Much of Orban's appeal to the Carlsons of the world springs from his unapologetic immigrant bashing, especially those from majority-Muslim countries, and his hostility to LGBTQ rights and other "woke" causes. My colleague Shikha Dalmia, a Visiting Fellow at the Mercatus Center's Program on Pluralism and Civil Exchange, recently organized a conference called "The Real Truth About Hungary." It perfectly captured just how misguided American conservatives are in their admiration for Orban. She told me, "In the name of defending a Christian ethno-state, Orban has curtailed religious liberty, press freedoms, and free enterprise. He has also dismantled Hungary's already weak democratic checks and balances and rigged the electoral system to extend his hold on power."

But the irony is that such tolerance for these policies to "own the libs" could backfire spectacularly on these conservatives. Once the limits on state power are gone, if the progressive left truly gets into power, it will have a much easier time implementing the very agenda that these conservatives fear the most. Also, since imitation is the sincerest form of compliment, I wonder what we are to make of these conservatives who have become the biggest cheerleaders for many progressive spending programs.

The bottom line is Sanders and Carlson are idolizing the wrong models to achieve what they claim they want. The senator's mistake shows he's plain ignorant. Carlson's mistake suggests he's more dangerous.

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      2. Gotta stick up for your fascist pals Nazi Nardz.

        We know you idolize the good ole days of Antonescu in Romania.

        You’re free to find a country that’s more fascist than America, but I won’t let Nazis like you ruin MY COUNTRY!

        I’m all for immigration here. However I draw the line at Nazis like you Nardz. Go back to your former Soviet shithole you goddamn Nazi!

        1. KAR endorses late-term abortion, euthanasia, medical eugenics, religious suppression, corporatism and hates the Jews Israelis and Mormons, but somehow, magically, Nardz is the fascist.

          1. Please cite me supporting “late-term abortion, euthanasia, medical eugenics, religious suppression, corporatism?”

            Why do you feel you need to try and lie about me to discredit me? It says more about you than me?

            I do support death with dignity because I’m an actual libertarian. I also support the concerned parties deciding what’s best for a pregnancy. Not politicians, judges, or religious kooks.

            1. I shouldn’t say I’m a libertarian because I’m not. However I’m more libertarian than the authoritarian commenters on here like you ML.

          2. Again please cite me “hating Jews” or stop saying it.

            I do hate Mormons because I’m a good person.

    2. I disagree on Orban. It is comforting to see at least one Western leader do what is best for the citizens he represents. He is not against immigration. He wants it to be legal. As for the press, you mean “free”, like ours? With almost all of the media being part of the one political party machine? Talk about a “physician, heal thyself” moment! Orban is the smartest and most articulate, tell-it-like-it-is leader in the West and the only one who knows what he is doing and does what he says. No wonder you don’t recognize it. We haven’t seen this in the USA in my lifetime. Do what is best for citizen-tax payers? Not here.

    3. What do you call a country with two parties that both have the same collectivist/authoritarian basis? A Democratic Socialist Republic. What do you call a country with capitalism as its economic system by law and politics? Non-existent.
      The countries amount of actual freedom waxes & wanes, but their fundamental politics is totalitarian, i.e., rule by force, threats, fraud.

    4. I’m true “both sides” against them both, but at the same time, I don’t fear or respect any old fart with mittens or any young fart with a bowtie.

  1. My colleague Shikha Dalmia

    Stopped here. Moving on.

  2. If you say Shikha’s name thrice will she reappear as a writer here?

    Just as Sander’s doesn’t speak for all the prog leftards, Carlson doesn’t speak for every conservative. But Orban is quite correct in limiting immigration, and anyway they are a sovereign nation and don’t have to abide by our opinions anyway. What is it about people here in the US that makes them wish to meddle in other country’s affairs. Criticize all you wish, but let’s worry about our problems, chief among them that the left is far more authoritarian than the right at this time.

    1. If you say Shikha’s name thrice will she reappear as a writer here?

      We should be so lucky. Her writing was at least ridiculous enough to pass as satire. Every other reason writer with maybe a single exception is just a straight, dry rehash of the Party’s daily talking points.

    2. Say it three times and she moves into your house. And before you think it, she can’t be killed by conventional weapons.

    3. Is Shikha related to Sheik Yamouni Makir?

      1. Didn’t he sing for the Black Crowes?

        1. best straight up rock & roll band in the last 40 years. never miss a show.

          1. That album is in my top 5 for debut albums for me.

    4. Standing in front of a mirror, with one candle lit and saying the name “Shikha Dalmia” three times, will remove your Brahmin privilege and make you a victim of the patriarchy.

  3. I’m glad Bernie didn’t get the Democratic nomination, but at this point he’s mostly harmless.

    Sure, he used to complain about “millionaires and billionaires” — although he apparently simplified that to “billionaires” after he joined the millionaire ranks. But like most self-described socialists, including AOC and our own American Socia1ist, when it really matters he obediently votes exactly how billionaires tell him to.

    #BillionairesKnowBest

    1. Man, those billionaires really do live in your head.

      1. It’s in a seedy part of town, but there’s lots of space in there.

      2. OBL hardest hit by the CDC eviction moratorium.

  4. Bernie Sanders Is Wrong About Denmark. Tucker Carlson Is Wrong About Hungary.

    One of these passes laws, the other doesn’t.

    1. No bill Bernie has sponsored has ever passed – thankfully.

      Maybe a post office re-name or something like that.

    2. Not only that but one misrepresents their idolized country for the specific things being sold while the other sees areas of success fighting common problems to praise.

      Limiting immigration to something designed to benefit America is apparently beyond the pale to Veronica. So too removing the sway of identitarian marxists from our institutions. Apparently her version of America and Libertarianism is closer to international marxism than anything respecting individual rights.

      And maybe don’t use Shit for brains Dogma as your authoritative source. Her screeds are laughable even if you try to agree with her.

  5. One is a senator, the other has a cable TV show watched by 3 million people.

    That might be big for a cable TV news show, but that’s like .1% of America

    1. More like .9%, but the point still stands.

        1. Sexist too. Type 55378008 into a calculator and turn it upside down if you don’t believe me.

  6. The bottom line is Sanders and Carlson are idolizing the wrong models to achieve what they claim they want. The senator’s mistake shows he’s plain ignorant. Carlson’s mistake suggests he’s more dangerous.

    Yes, because Carlson is a powerful pundit paid to talk shit on TV whereas Bernie is merely a US Senator with no power whatsoever.

    1. U. S. Senator = paid to talk shit for the benefit of TV cameras.

      1. And then pass laws based on that shit.

  7. The senator’s mistake shows he’s plain ignorant. Carlson’s mistake suggests he’s more dangerous.

    One of these two defended bread lines and is a lawmaker. I know, Shikha, the commies mean well, but those rascally conservatives just want to kill you for the yucks.

  8. Orban has erected barbed-wire fences to keep out immigrants. That may not bother nationalist conservatives,

    Because a real authoritarian would erect fences to keep emigrants in. Having a country people are trying to get into doesn’t strike me as a bad sign.

    but he has also co-opted the Hungarian press to serve his regime by putting the press in the hands of loyalists.

    Who did his predecessor put the press in the hands of? The problem there is having an official “press”, not with who’s the boss of it.

    He also packed the courts,

    If you’re going to have courts, and the government’s going to appoint someone a judge, what does “packed” mean? Now, if you were to provide criticism of his appointees compared to the run of the mill, then we could take away something useful from this article.

    and cracked down on academia in the name of combating “woke” liberalism.

    Is he succeeding? If so, could we have some of whatever he’s drinking?

    He has created a patronage economy where licenses and aid are handed to businesses that are friendly to his administration.

    Is it harder to get licenses now? Heck, if he’s running a country where permission’s required to do business, and he’s giving you permission you couldn’t get before, why wouldn’t you be friendly to his administration? How about you give us Heritage scores here, before and after? (I hope you did, I haven’t finished the article.)

    He even passed a law that gives the state considerable control over churches and other religious institutions.

    Since I can’t see what good could come of that, OK, that’s a bad thing. But it’s the first unequivocally bad thing you’ve listed. About Denmark you were all about policies, but about Hungary it seems you’re all about politics.

    1. Of those I can see Tucker looking at two favorably with the others either not relevant or being against so the author slung a whole bunch of dishonest crap to make things even out. Woke journalism FTW.

  9. The Gay American Empire is crumbling and we are looking frantically elsewhere for solutions.

    Denmark and Hungary are ethnostates, and their people can be happy with socialism or totalitarianism at home because, at the end of the day, kinship is the only true glue of nations.

    Carlson and Sanders are both wrong because the politics of Denmark and Hungary cannot exist in a nation comprised of a thousand warring tribes.

    “Americans” no longer exist and, as a result, neither does America.

    1. “My tribe’s lies leading to violence against your tribe GOOD; your tribe’s lies leading to violence against my tribe BAD! This is the ONLY sound basis on which to organize and run a nation-tribe! Inter-tribal peace and cooperation is an idealistic fiction that can NEVER exist in the real world! Hate is the ONLY way!”

      Is this what you are meaning to say?

      You are WRONG ass usual, Goldilicks Gorillashit! To more-fully understand why you are wrong, read http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ and http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/

    2. Goldilicks Gorillashit wants to import the Taliban to the USA to show how to fend off GloboHomo! THIS is how “My tribe’s lies leading to violence against your tribe GOOD; your tribe’s lies leading to violence against my tribe BAD!” is supposed to work! All Hail the Taliban, and bring them here to show us how it is done, says Goldilicks!

      https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/01/politics/far-right-groups-praise-taliban-takeover/index.html

      White supremacist praise of the Taliban takeover concerns US officials

  10. Who is Carlson’s intellectual equal at Reason?

    None are his superior.

    1. Sullum. Just ask him.

    2. Jon Stewart humiliated Tucker Carlson as a guest on Crossfire years ago. Tucker’s smug went away but it came back at Fox News where he has no one to check him.

      1. No he didn’t. That’s just what you wished you saw.

        1. Why do you hate Jon Stewart?

          It’s because he’s Jewish?

          1. Ironic, considering that you hold an anti-semitic sentiment in you.

  11. This is a great article.

    It highlights one of my favorite tools for shaping my thoughts on basically all positions. I always ask myself “If the most evil person in the world just gained control of the government, would I be ok with them having this authority?”. Summed up in this article as “Once the limits on state power are gone, if the progressive left truly gets into power, it will have a much easier time implementing the very agenda that these conservatives fear the most.”

    One example from this article “Orban has erected barbed-wire fences to keep out immigrants”. This may sound great and justifiable, but that apparatus can easily be turned against its own citizenry if they are trying to escape an increasingly authoritarian government. You may cheer on CBP and ICE keeping out immigrants right now, but these agencies can easily be turned against you to keep you in the country.

    1. None of you seem to understand. I’m not locked in here with you… You’re locked in here with me!

      1. ^ All the lakes that I had those boating accidents on are here.

    2. It took less than a decade for the Democrats to weaponize parts of the Patriot Act international surveillance apparatus against their political opponents. What other powers do we really want to give to these warring elites?

    3. Oddly, I just has a discussion with my 7 year old this morning about this exact topic in the context of the Harry Potter stories. Harry Potter is a great series to inject some libertarian discussions with younger kids. A lot of government incompetence, abuse of government power and eventually that power falling into the wrong hands.

    4. ^Excellently said…

      The *Power* of Gov-Gun-Forces should not be taken lightly.
      There’s a reason most of the Constitution is written as “Congress shall NOT….”

  12. Authoritiarianism is not so bad so long as it mandates the correct religious denomination. Don’t want Catholics in charge here! Or northern Methodists rather than Southern Baptists! That’s the trouble with authoritarianism, you can’t guarantee that they’ll be on your side. Sure they can force you to read the Bible in school, but which Bible translation will it be?

    1. “Which Bible translation” is only PART of the problem! Which verses to pick and how to interpret them is yet another problem!

      God COMMANDS us to kill EVERYONE!

      Our that them thar VALUES of society outta come from that them thar HOLY BIBLE, and if ya read it right, it actually says that God wants us to KILL EVERYBODY!!! Follow me through now: No one is righteous, NONE (Romans 3:10). Therefore, ALL must have done at least one thing bad, since they’d be righteous, had they never done anything bad. Well, maybe they haven’t actually DONE evil, maybe they THOUGHT something bad (Matt. 5:28, thoughts can be sins). In any case, they must’ve broken SOME commandment, in thinking or acting, or else they’d be righteous. James 2:10 tells us that if we’ve broken ANY commandment, we broke them ALL. Now we can’t weasel out of this by saying that the New Testament has replaced the Old Testament, because Christ said that he’s come to fulfill the old law, not to destroy it (Matt. 5:17). So we MUST conclude that all are guilty of everything. And the Old Testament lists many capital offenses! There’s working on Sunday. There’s also making sacrifices to, or worshipping, the wrong God (Exodus 22:20, Deut. 17:2-5), or even showing contempt for the Lord’s priests or judges (Deut. 17:12). All are guilty of everything, including the capital offenses. OK, so now we’re finally there… God’s Word COMMANDS us such that we’ve got to kill EVERYBODY!!!

      (I am still looking for that special exception clause for me & my friends & family… I am sure I will find it soon!)

    2. Or the more substantial point —
      That’s the trouble with *democratic* authoritarianism, you can’t guarantee that they’ll be on your side. Why the people of this nation need to put down their [WE] mob rules democracy! and pickup a U.S. Constitution.

  13. Sander, along with Warren, have both argued for more nationalism and more socialism. They are the only two elected nazis in us politics

    1. Yet actual Nazis and Neo-Nazis join the Republican Party or some far-right relative of it in Europe.

      So you are one of the dumbasses who thinks Aryan Supremacy is “socialism”. No one else outside your little wingnut bubble thinks that.

      1. And you are a communist that communes with other communists.

        You should also be dehumanized and taken to the basement of your local party hq

      2. Yet actual Nazis and Neo-Nazis join the Republican Party or some far-right relative of it in Europe.

        And actual communists and socialists have joined the Democratic Party. Unlike Republicans, who have uniformly condemned neo-Nazis, Democrats have embraced communists/socialists.

        And, regardless of self-identification, it is progressives and people like you who actually follow and promote 20th century fascist ideology.

      3. Who was the last US President to deport a Nazi?

      4. “Yet actual Nazis and Neo-Nazis join the Republican Party”

        Remember last election how American Neo-Nazi political leader, Richard Spencer, endorsed Biden in the last election?
        https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2020/08/richard-spencer-endorses-joe-biden-campaign-swiftly-disavows-white-nationalist.html

        Remember how KKK leader David Duke endorsed Hillary in the one before?

        Remember Bull Connor and Orval Faubus? What party were they affiliated with?

        Remember when the Democrats led a 83-day filibuster against the Civil Rights Act, including Senators Albert Gore, Sr. (D-TN) and J. William Fulbright (D-AR), as well as Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV), who personally filibustered for 14 hours straight?

        What party sent the Cherokee packing on the Trail of Tears?

        What party interned the Japanese in WW2?

        What party kicked all the Blacks out of the Civil Service in the 1914?

        That must mean you’re the real Nazi, Buttplug.

        1. “”as well as Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV), who personally filibustered for 14 hours straight?””

          Hillary Clinton’s mentor.

        2. David Duke endorsed Trump in 2016. Trump wouldn’t reject his endorsement. It was all over the news.

        3. Post Civil Rights era what party is overwhelmingly supported by the southern bible humping racists? It’s not the Democratic Party.

        4. Don’t forget Wilson. He segregated the military and the federal government.

      5. Your rebuttal is the perfect rebuttal….

        Just because a few call themselves Nazi’s or Neo-Nazi’s doesn’t mean that’s what they are!!!

        Of course the one’s who are *really* Nazi’s are the National Socialists and by golly we ALL know which party holds that sector.

  14. He has also dismantled Hungary’s already weak democratic checks and balances and rigged the electoral system to extend his hold on power.

    You say that, but do you have evidence that he rigged it enough to make a difference? Evidence like video proof of counting going on after monitors had been kicked out; or did he just use some sort of national emergency to radically change the voting process in Hungary months before the election?

  15. But let’s look at his record: Orban has erected barbed-wire fences to keep out immigrants. Etc. Etc.

    I get it: you don’t like Orban’s policies. How does that make him an “authoritarian”? Is anybody who disagrees with your preferred policies an “authoritarian”?

    Much of Orban’s appeal to the Carlsons of the world springs from his unapologetic immigrant bashing

    Yeah, imagine that: Hungarians might want their country to stay Hungarian and Christian! How terrible!

    He has also dismantled Hungary’s already weak democratic checks and balances and rigged the electoral system to extend his hold on power

    I’m not sure what you are alleging here. Orban and his party are popular and have been popular for a long time.

  16. That Orban guy sounds like someone conservatives could definitely support. He hates immigrants, liberals, and queers. He makes the press serve him instead of leftists. He impedes his political enemies’ ability to participate in the economy. Looks like he’s waging the new civil war against leftists and winning.

    What’s not to like?

    1. He hates immigrants, liberals, and queers.

      Do you have any evidence that he “hates” these groups?

      As far as I can tell, he wants to restrict immigration and wants schools not to promote transgenderism or sexuality.

      As a gay immigrant, I don’t have a problem with either of those. Why should I?

      1. You being a gay immigrant somehow negates his hatred? That’s like saying you’re a Mexican who likes Trump and that means Trump likes immigrants. C’mon.

        1. Trump DOES like immigrants. He’s married them.

          What he doesn’t like is illegal aliens.

        2. Oh look, sarcasmic drags out the illegal aliens are the same thing as legal immigrants sophistry.

        3. You being a gay immigrant somehow negates his hatred?

          I’m saying that you are lying about him “hating” those groups.

          Lying: it’s what you do.

    2. Orban also hates the most successful capitalist to ever come out of Hungary – George Soros.

      He gives conservatives a boner for all the right reasons.

      1. What does Glenn Beck call him? Spooky man?

        1. I can’t believe you two bozos are fellating the crook who crashed the Pound and destroyed a million pension funds.

          1. You gleaned that off that comment of mine?

            You’re fucking mental.

            1. You have a strong prior CV here sarcasmic, that makes such assumptions pretty fair.

              1. So you’re making stuff up. But I already knew that.

          2. If Soros were shorting the US Dollar you would call him a “patriot”.

      2. George soros another Nazi…or are you going to say that someone literally in the hitler youth was not a nazi

        1. Sure Soros helped his Uncle seize property from Jewish neighbors, but he was only a kid or something, so he can’t be a Nazi.

          1. Soros is a fascist because, today, he promotes fascist ideology to the tune of many millions of dollars.

    3. He makes the press serve him instead of leftists. He impedes his political enemies’ ability to participate in the economy.

      one can learn a lot from studying Mark Zuckerberg.

  17. Shikha Dalmia, a Visiting Fellow at the Mercatus Center’s Program on Pluralism and Civil Exchange, recently organized a conference called “The Real Truth About Hungary.”

    If our Shikha organized it then it’s guaranteed to be malicious nonsense. Hungary will get as fair a shake from her, as Kazakhstan got from Sacha Baron Cohen, except bitchier and full of Not Funny.

    And remember folks, don’t EVER let the Brahmin-privileged turmeric monster lecture you about PoC, colonialism, cultural appropriation or representation. Remind them that when Lord Indra arrived on the Ganges in his chariot to slaughter six million Dasyu aboriginals, the first word he said was ‘Namaste’.

    1. Hungary will get as fair a shake from her, as Kazakhstan got from Sacha Baron Cohen, except bitchier and full of Not Funny.

      Bitchier, less funny, and more racist as well. I don’t think Kohen was intentionally disparaging Kazaks, if you handed him a fictional race/nationality that were just as funny, he would’ve used that.

      1. Less funny than kohen is a feat in and of itself

          1. Saw carrot top live, he’s actually pretty good

  18. “In the name of defending a Christian ethno-state, Orban has curtailed religious liberty, press freedoms, and free enterprise. He has also dismantled Hungary’s already weak democratic checks and balances and rigged the electoral system to extend his hold on power.”

    That’s why Tucker Carlson admires Orban–because he is an authoritarian. The Denmark of Bernie Sanders’ dreams doesn’t exist; the Hungary of Tucker Carlson’s dreams is, unfortunately, a reality.

    1. The Denmark of Bernie Sanders’ dreams doesn’t exist
      Neither does the Marxism, but we got a pile of ~100,000,000 bodies because people like Sanders keep trying.

    2. Except not really because most of the establishments accusations against Orban, are about as real as the ones they told about Trump. You remember, the guy that started WW3 and was the worlds biggest warmonger.

      The Davos crowd will malign and lie about anyone who gets in the way of their international empire-building grift.

      1. Whatever Trump (and to some extent, Orban) got in the way of was so important the true power structure had to reveal itself for the first time. Crazy ass thing to witness in real time.

        My guess would be a combination of stopping the TPP, avoiding new wars, and generally slowing the globalization/open borders/oligarchy taking full power from nation-states agenda.
        If you get in the way of war profiteering and enabling the super-rich to get richer, you gotta go.

        See also: Tulsi, who was hated for backing Bernie, but the knives and 24/7 character assassination didn’t really come out until she kept getting in the way of Syria invasions and such.

    3. Bernie ran for president on the premise of turning the US into his fantasy of Denmark, and his policy ideas continue to reflect that. Tucker hosts a tv show.

    4. Hungary’s professors are far more able to speak on topics than American professors are.

      1. They are hungary for the truth.

  19. Bernie Sanders is a sitting US Senator who can impact my life in numerous ways. Tucker Carlson is a tv host who cannot do those things. They may both be wrong, but the wrongness of one is far more dangerous than that of the other.

    1. Jaywalking and murder are the same crime if the conservative is the jaywalker. – Reason staff

  20. Fake comment here on Orban.. ‘.. and his hostility to LGBTQ rights”. Orbam RIGHTLY stated no LBGT propaganda will NOT be taught to the under age. Simple eh, unless w we wish the LBGTs to influence sensitive, small kids.

  21. I’d be happy if more of everyone could just accept what the USA is by it’s definition of the U.S. Constitution and STOP trying to re-define it.

    Especially those in Government who SWORE to uphold it.

  22. my problem is with
    Shikha Dalmia and veronique de Rugy :they are both -in my opinion-
    New Immigrants and they come with a huge baggage of old brainwash
    from their old countries “intellectual Dossiers”
    Yet they need to make a living so they write …
    Danmark and Hungary what a tile
    P.S “Orban has erected barbed-wire fences to keep out immigrants”
    that actually protect Danmark and
    France too from these cherished immigrants !
    I am a very old immigrant .

  23. Poland is erecting a barbed wire fence on the border with Belarus to keep out refugees that are passing through Belarus.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/polish-president-imposes-state-emergency-belarus-border-2021-09-02/

  24. If by curtailing religious liberty you mean stopping millions of illegal Muslims from invading his country you may be right. Hungary has a long history with Islam and they don’t want to repeat it.

  25. what a blindly ignorant article.

    when the right says socialist, they mean Denmark, directly

  26. Bernie Sanders Is Wrong About Denmark.
    Tucker Carlson Is Wrong About Hungary.
    Reason Is Wrong About Everything..

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