Coronavirus

You Staying at Home Is the Future Unvaccinated-Punishers Want

Complying with the layers of COVID-19 restrictions on travel and human interaction is exhausting even for the vaccinated.

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When it's been a good long while, you forget one of the primary benefits of travel: seeing and experiencing wholly different approaches to the same human problems we contend with back home. For my 6-year-old in France the first half of August, that meant mostly one thing: Kids of elementary school age there almost never wear masks.

"Can we stay in France until coronavirus is over?" she asked, more than once.

To be sure, that's not the French COVID-19 policy making international headlines this summer. In July, President Emmanuel Macron announced that everyone in the country as of August 9 must show a government-issued Pass Sanitaire—proof of either vaccination, a negative test within the past 72 hours, or prior recovery from an infection—before doing most anything in an indoor public space. Cities have been wracked with protests every weekend since; vaccinations have also shot upward.

Vaccine passports have become an increasingly popular policy response to the more infectious delta variant of COVID-19. Italy has required a "Green Pass" since August 6 (as a nakedly biased New York Times subhed put it, "While such measures have prompted protests in France and divided Americans, Italians are enjoying a season of rationality under Prime Minister Mario Draghi").

Papers-please requirements went into effect Monday in New Orleans and New York City; San Francisco will join them Friday. California announced yesterday that any public event larger than 1,000 attendees will need to check vax status as of September 20.

Most ominously of all, for those who value freedom of movement over government's ability to constrain it, not only has President Joe Biden been reportedly considering a vaccination-check for domestic air travel, he will soon have a demonstration project to consider north of the border, where Canada last week announced that proof will be required for all air, train, and boat passengers beginning this fall.

As The Washington Post put it in a headline this week, "Vaccine mandates are mounting—and that's likely to affect your next trip."

That is, if you decide to take it.

The net sum of governmental restrictions and requirements on travel adds layer upon layer of time, cost, and anxiety. And that's for those of us who got our vaccinations as quickly as legally possible. Even before you leave your country, there's the potentially trip-killing hassle of either obtaining or renewing a passport, which has wreaked expensive havoc on thousands of Americans. Then the actual COVID rules kick in.

Imagine a federal government initiating and executing a national IT job and related app affecting tens of millions in a couple of months. Obamacare exchanges, anyone? Foreign visitors to France were told (usually by the media) that they should just go to a nearby pharmacy, show a relevant vax card, and they'd be given something temporary to show whoever asked. The pharmacists replied, er, non, we don't have that capability; our database system is set up so we'd have to create some kind of ghost in-country vaccination record, and, well, bonne chance.

If you happen to have a French spouse handy (recommended), he/she can then navigate the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website, download and fill out the various forms, then email 'em back—not too heavy a file, mind you, or else it will bounce back, and you'll have to start all over again. There is no automatic response or tracking number generated, so you'll have to cross your fingers. In our case, the Pass Sanitaire showed up right on time—for our arrival back in New York.

Since it was the first week of the requirement, venues tended to just wave us through after a flash of the passport and the vax card. But there was a subtler side effect on me, as well—I spent much less of my discretionary walk-around time poking my nose into places that might card me. At some point, depending on varying individual tolerance, the hassles both major and minor stack up high enough that you orient your activity around avoiding any potential friction.

The United States still requires a negative PCR test—regardless of your vaccination status—within 72 hours of your flight back home. Since the French government is openly embracing the Cass Sunstein-esque ethos of nudging people into desired behaviors, those tests will cost you 49 euros per, so place that on the stack. (If you are inclined toward downward-spiral fantasia or just negative-scenario planning, you may choose to spend the 24 hours or so after that test imagining what you'll do if everyone's negative except the 6-year-old.)

The addition of the COVID checkpoints makes the airport gauntlet on international flights seem like that hippie-punching scene from Airplane!, only considerably less fun. We showed up at Charles de Gaulle three hours before our flight, and by the time we reached the gate, the plane was already boarding. As the headline on Liz Wolfe's piece two months ago aptly put it, "International Travel Is Partially Back, but It's Worse Than Before."

I know, I know, First World problems, amirite? Except this is the future many American politicians, public health officials, and journalists seem to want, right here at home.

"A no-fly list for unvaccinated adults is an obvious step that the federal government should take," wrote former Obama administration Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security for Intergovernmental Affairs Juliette Kayyem in The Atlantic this month. "We have to move from the…carrots of luring people, talking to them about the science, giving them extra pay lottery systems," Kayyem further explained on PBS, "to a system of sticks where there will be burdens, privileges will be denied."

Few people will ever go broke overestimating the desire among Americans to inflict punishment on their perceived political enemies. But not only will blue-state vax requirements end up disproportionately impacting Democratic-voting minority populations, they will also discourage basic human activity among populations that have already long since been nudged into vaccination.

When we arrived at the passport line at JFK—an irritating and nerve-wracking experience in the best of times—security agents kept yelling to the trudging masses how they should just download the passport app and go to that shorter line over there. (This after having been sternly reminded by the airline crew that using mobile phones in line is strictly prohibited.) Panicked passengers, fatigued from the seven-hour flight and prior airport gauntlet, started fumbling with their phones, asking nervously about whether they'd be allowed in the country. I probably staved off more than one cardiac emergency (beginning with my own) by loudly asking one of the guards, "THIS IS NOT MANDATORY, CORRECT?"

Being somewhere is great, jumping through government hoops to get there is the opposite. Especially when it's in the stated service of protecting people like me—or even my unvaccinated 6-year-old, who is still unlikely to catch, and vanishingly unlikely to suffer from, the delta variant of COVID. You want to impose tight vaccination/testing protocols on school staff and especially those in daily contact with at-risk populations? I'm all ears. Create a bifurcated world where carrying vax status is a must and the noncompliant are barred from whole swaths of physical territory, even though I don't fear them in the slightest? I don't plan on entering those spaces.

You've seen the meme about my fall plans versus the delta variant? It's amusing, as far these things go, but for me the versus is acutely missing the phrase government's response to. I am aching to visit my family in California, but Lord only knows what kind of travel and quarantining restrictions and currently unimagined hassles will be added to the stack once delta comes heading north and west from the peak areas down south.

At some point the unhappy conclusion begins to coalesce. Government nudgers don't just want to punish politically icky refuseniks, they'd be happy if I stayed home from the bar or airport terminal, too. And they will continue calling the shots, if we continue letting them.

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  1. a season of rationality

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      3. I thought the journalist had a some valid points even if there was over reach and exaggeration. The worst sentence in the whole article, though, was “few people will ever go broke overestimating the desire among Americans to inflict punishment on their perceived political enemies.” Maybe he is just trying to stoke right wing fears, but he sounds like he really believes that. If so, Matt really needs to find some friends and acquaintances on the other side. He is living in a bubble and does not understand what he is writing about. The left’s underlying goal with vaccine mandates and restrictions for non-vaccinated is not to hurt a political enemy (although some certainly do relish in that side effect!); the VAST majority of them truly believe that vaccination is the best way to end the pandemic, to reduce the strain on hospitals and to save lives. And reduce their own risks and own need to have to wear a mask everywhere. Which is exactly what the vast majority of experts believe as well – epidemiologists, virologists and public health officials. Get a clue, Matt.

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  2. >> And they will continue calling the shots, if we continue letting them.

    I appreciate the forward tilt.

    1. Yet Matt and company ceaselessly attacked Trump and still continue to do so. Helping Biden get elected, and ushering in an age of democrat evil and tyranny.

      1. Yes and fvck him with a splintery broom handle

  3. It’s the post 9/11 overreaction all over again.

    Let’s see if the sheeple are smarter this time (my bet is “no”).

    1. Your bet will pay shitty odds.

    2. my bet is “no”

      I don’t anyone ever lost money betting on stupidity.

    3. No? Try “Fuck no.”

      “Thank you sir may I have another” has replaced E Pluribus Unum.

      1. That’s a pithier version of my point, and probly more accurate.

    4. No. This is a nation of weak, cowardly, spineless, yellow-bellied cowards raised by helicopter parents and schools, etc. who award “participation trophies”.

  4. I mean, I’m moving states in a month in part because I got fed up with my current states overreaction. I had to travel for a funeral and it was such a night and day experience walking into a state with a reasonable reaction, I thought, any not live here permanently?

    1. Viruses can move states just as easily.

      1. And your point is …?

        1. My point is working from home has saved her money. More money is her pocket at the end of the month is no one’s idea of punishment.

          1. If you get jailed, you fucking idiot, you don’t have to pay for food.

          2. What good is the money if you can’t enjoy it?

            1. You can invest it. Life is good.

              1. facepalm.jpg

                Are you trying to be this retarded on purpose?

                1. Are you responding to me on purpose?

              2. Invest it back into the globalist system that is keeping you locked down. Brilliant.

          3. Did this sound smart in your head?

            1. Even better it’s true. Working from home saved her hundreds of dollars a month. Because she didn’t have to commute. Crying about it won’t help you.

              1. And she’ll save even more money if they lock her in a box and feed her through a tube.

                Fucking idiot.

                1. She’s at home with her family. And saving hundreds of dollars that would have gone into commuting. Why are you so resentful? Accept that some people make better choices than you do.

          4. Goddamn you are one retarded faggot.

            1. People like Mtrueman have to go for us to be free.

              1. You’ll never be free. You don’t have it in you.

                1. You really don’t want to test that. My side has almost all of the war vets and others who have a proven capability to pull the trigger on enemies of our constitutional republic.

                  And there is no greater enemy that Marxist democrats. Based in that, you should really consider abandoning all your Marxist beliefs and give in ti freedom and liberty, for the sake of your own survival, if for nothing else.

                  1. It all comes down to threat of violence eventually.

                    People never learn.

                  2. “You really don’t want to test that. ”

                    You’ve got that right. I’ve better things to do. Meanwhile my acquaintance continues to save hundreds of dollars a month that would have gone into commuting. Go ahead and keep whinging.

                  3. Fuck you and your airsoft fueled fantasy version of war. Ar 15 toting dummies will get killed by the hundreds by nerds in air conditioned trailers 1000 miles away.

                    And no, most of the veterans are not on your side, judging by the reaction to Jan 6th by most veterans.

                    We are offended by your fat asses playing army dress up and your blatant hatred of the constitution. Hell, the right has taken to praising the taliban and denigrating afghan interpreters. Jane Fonda would be proud.

        2. Viruses happen because of human thought
          vendor cctv

      2. So can bullets.

        1. But, but, Californica says that’s unpossible! They also say boxes with springs in them that hold more than 10 units of arbitrary size are illegal and can’t cross state lines either.

      3. Congratulations on the dumb-fuck post of the day.

      4. Unfortunately, so do democrat shills like you.

      5. No one cares what you scared, cowardly lefty snowflakes thinks. Take your virus panic elsewhere and let rational adults talk.

    2. Hell, in California I can travel to any county east of Interstate 5 and get the same feeling. My first steak in a restaurant during the pandemic was in a “red” county at a major chain restaurant that was open illegally. No one cared. In my home “blue” county people would have shit a brick.

      1. How are rates of transmission in San Francisco? Pretty low, right? I wonder why.

        1. AIDS????

          You know, a REALLY deadly disease?????

          1. Fauci Act 1 Scene 1

          2. And hepatitis from all the shitting San Franciscans do on the sidewalks.

        2. You mean that city with 870 thousand people with a large Asian population?

          If you price out lower income minorities out of your zone, you can lower the rate of transmission. If SF had LA’s demographics and economy, they wouldn’t lock down as hard. Or the army of immigrants would just ignore it.

        3. If you’re talking about HIV you would be wrong.

      2. Yup, here in OC, our restaurants were open long before Los Angeles. One of my friends came down and he acted like some East German defector coming to the west. “You can walk around without mask? And go into restaurant? And sit?” (This was about 9 months back).

        And FWIW, Amsoc, Orange County has 3.2 Million Population to Los Angeles’s 4 Million, and we have 1/5 the deaths (5,100 to 25,000). I know you will ignore this and continue to focus on the data that confirms your worldview, but for the benefit of the thread, I figured I’d post it.

        1. After a year and a half you’d think we’d learn that policy does not influence community spread of an airborne virus except at the margins. Everyone is just yelling at the tides.

          1. Sadly the policy-makers continue to claim that the only thing holding us back from chaos is the policy.

          2. The reference may go over some folks heads, but it is apt.

      3. Most places were quietly open in East San Diego county. If nothing else, Gavin should get credit for bringing the back speakeasies.

  5. An acquaintance couldn’t be happier with this ‘punishment.’ Working from home has saved her hundreds of dollars a month in commuting costs. Think of all the guns and ammo she can now buy!

    1. If she likes that, great. Don’t inflict your preferences on everyone else.

      1. I’m sure her children and grandchildren will enjoy a life blessed with all the intelligence of Eloi and all the freedom of Morlocks.

        1. Love this expression!

        2. Literary references are generally lost on woke idiots like Mtrueman.

          1. I almost feel punished.

        3. You no doubt have good reason to resent her. She saves hundreds of dollars a month by working at home. (No commuting expenses.) Please have some compassion for her. Working at home and saving money is punishment enough.

          1. “The anecdotal fallacy uses a personal experience or an isolated example instead of a sound argument.”

          2. She should have her feet amputated. She would lose some weight, and save thousands of dollars on shoe purchases.

      2. She thinks it’s great too. She saves hundreds of dollars a month that would otherwise cover her commuting.

        “Don’t inflict your preferences on everyone else.”

        Surely you have more important things to worry about than what my preferences are.

        1. Yeah, you mentioned the commute about 6 times.

          Are you drunk?

          1. It’s chemjeff sockpuppeting, and today he’s relying on anecdotal fallacy.

            1. I wonder if Jeffy decorates his kitchen (undoubtedly his favorite room in the house) with Soviet era Russian art, like former Obama propagandist Jay Carney.

              https://theweek.com/speedreads/455119/obamas-press-secretary-decorates-home-soviet-propaganda

              It wouldn’t surprise me.

          2. “Are you drunk?”

            No I simply wanted to mention the punishment that goes with working from home. ie saving hundreds of dollars a month. All I get in return is resentful whinging and insults.

        2. And the people who have to serve her? bring her food? What if they could not go out either?

          1. So far she’s fat and happy. I’ll keep you informed of any changes.

    2. Some slaves enjoy their position.

  6. I imagine most of this obedience is that government already interferes in our lives so much that the marginal hassle is pretty low. Whereas in the early 1800s, or even early 1900s, government was mostly invisible to daily life, so nonsense like this would have been seen for this power grab it is.

    1. >>early 1800s, or even early 1900s

      repeal the 19th.

      1. Now that anyone can be a man/woman would it make a difference?

    2. It enrages me when this generation of so-called “freedom-loving Americans” is so willing to give up every last freedom from government tyranny that made this the greatest nation on the face of the Earth at one time. Nowadays, you can scare the crap out of the millennials and they can’t turn against their freedoms and liberties quickly enough. I’m ashamed of the cowardly, weak-kneed people in this country AND THAT INCLUDES CONSERVATIVES WHO SUPPOSEDLY LOVE THEIR FREEDOM ENOUGH TO FIGHT FOR IT TOOTH AND NAIL, BUT WON’T MOVE BEYOND BITCHING LIKE AN IMPUDENT CHILD FROM THE SAFETY FOUND BEHIND A KEYBOARD IN THEIR COMFY CHAIR.

  7. Complying with the layers of COVID-19 restrictions on travel and human interaction is exhausting even for the vaccinated.

    STAY IN YOUR PODS
    EAT YOUR BUGS
    YOU’LL OWN NOTHING, AND BE HAPPY
    DON’T ASK QUESTIONS, JUST CONSUME PRODUCT THEN GET EXCITED FOR NEXT PRODUCTS

    1. Yep, just let the vaccinated have all the fun! I went to a big ol’ dance party last weekend and rolled my face off. You? I didn’t worry too much about getting Covid. You know why? I’m not a fucking idiot dying on the most ridiculous fucking hill in modern fucking existence like you all.

      1. >>I went to a big ol’ dance party last weekend and rolled my face off.

        saw phish 4x in 3 weeks and did the same with no vax. nobody died.

      2. Big Pharma and the government overclass thank you, peasant

      3. You should worry more about paying your mortgage.

        And I’m vaccinated, so your little bitchfest is even more hilarious.

        1. Who exactly is bitching? I’m good. You don’t seem too happy.

          STAY IN YOUR PODS
          EAT YOUR BUGS
          YOU’LL OWN NOTHING, AND BE HAPPY
          DON’T ASK QUESTIONS, JUST CONSUME PRODUCT THEN GET EXCITED FOR NEXT PRODUCTS

          1. PAY YOUR MORTGAGE

          2. Pay your rent faggot.

      4. Cool, I kept living my life the past year, going to restaurants, parties, vacations, and didnt mask either. Alive, healthy, happy.

        So I guess you are behind by a good year? Good for you. Better party super hard to catch up for that year you lost living like a little bitch

        1. Oh I plan to. I’m vaccinated and plan on getting the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th shot as they come out so I can ruin my health with some truly epic designer drugs.

          1. Hopefully you will die soon, along with the rest of your Marxist comrades.

      5. So did I, without a mask. I didn’t worry about getting Covid either. You know why?

        Because I have a greater than 99.5% of surviving.

        Fuck off.

        1. Mine is about 99.998%— so, what, 250 times less than yours. You won’t be able to get into high class restaurants and bars like me with my fancy vaccine card though.

      6. A faggot orgy is NOT dancing … no matter what your rapist says

        1. That sounds like a Tony topic. And I’m sure AmSoc takes it up the ass regularly too.

      7. Please present me the link to the long-term safety profile of these novel vaccines, so I can make an informed decision.

        Oh, that’s right, none exists yet, because they are still new, experimental drugs.

        I wouldn’t take PCSK9 inhibitors because they are too new and we don’t know the long-term effects, and I am not going to change that approach to medications now, especially for a virus that is less than 1% fatal for my demographic.

        1. Such a point is surely lost on someone like American Socia1ist. r versus K selection theory on full display. He’s only thinking of today, with no concern for the future.

      8. No, you will die by execution after you are found guilty of your Marxist treason.

      9. “Dying on the most ridiculous hill” says the person whose discredited political philosophy is right in the screen name.

    2. YOU’LL OWN NOTHING, AND BE HAPPY

      Or else.

    3. Simplify this to

      OBEY

  8. Totally. I’ve noticed it’s easier to get into nice bars and restaurants now because what, 40%, of dumbasses can’t be bothered to get a vaccine because they are extra special special. Oh well… maybe I can finally get into Meadowood. Been wanting to try that one. That place has got to be hurting since rich assholes can’t take their Marin Co. yoga teacher mistresses there any more. That’s like half the clientele.

    1. How do those boots taste, commie shit?

      1. It will be very satisfying when Marxist garbage like him are out to death after their treason trials.

    2. At least the poor assholes can get a glimpse of how the successful people live. Grats.

      1. And all they have to do is shamelessly shill for Big Pharma and obey the moneyed aristocracy.

      2. People who don’t pay their mortgage still have to make their living somehow.

    3. Seeing as the majority of the unvaxxed are PoC, we really know why you are happy.

    4. LOL. When those nice places close down because they can’t afford to lose half their clientele and keep the business open, you’ll be the first to whine about it. No doubt you’ll blame Evil Capitalism and completely overlook the role played by your God, the government.

      1. Well said!

      2. Hammer, meet the head of the nail.

    5. Funny how you are so worried about a virus but completely ignore your closed head injury.

  9. Don’t worry, Sarcasmic The Great Faggot, White Mike, CuntJeff Radical Karen, Rev. Arthur Cuckland, Child Pornographer Buttplug 2, and the rest of Biden’s Simp Crew will be here shortly to explain to you Magatards and fake libertarians why you should wear your masks, get jabbed, and anything else Fauci, the CDC, Biden’s handlers and the rest of the Elites feel like ordering you to do. Remember, nothing shows more intelligence and sophistication than OBEYING your betters. You don’t even have to think, they do it for you!

    1. “People are weak. People are selfish. When people have the freedom to choose, they choose wrong. Every single time.”

      https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/when-people-have-freedom-choose-they-choose-wrong-watching-giver-david-french/

      Unlike in the more recent dystopian films, great calamity has led not to a Panem-like violence and oppression but instead to an artificially created utopia, where the state has systematically imposed equality, narrowed the range of individual choice to meaninglessness, and places each person in their designated place. This is a utopia organized not around the seeking of pleasure but instead the avoidance of pain. As Meryl Streep’s character explains, “When people have the freedom to choose, they choose wrong.”

      Daily injections alter body chemistry to inhibit the normal range of emotions, and the world is literally drained of its color. Without passion, there is no conflict. Without pain, there is no sadness. In this utopia, humanity’s memories are passed down through two people, a “giver” and a “receiver.” Only they can see and experience the joy and pain and loss from humanity’s past.

      Without giving away too much of the plot, suffice to say that the “receiver” (a teenage boy) soon understands a great truth of human oppression. There is no escaping choice. Someone always chooses. Yes, when people have freedom, they often make wrong choices. But so do the people who run the “utopia.” In this instance, the leaders choose to perfect the community through infanticide and euthanasia, through murder.

      In the world of The Giver – as in our world — someone always chooses, and those choices, even when well-intended, can have catastrophic consequences. As we drift ever-closer towards a regulated nanny state, it’s not that choices are removed, they are instead reserved — reserved for the technocratic few who feel confident they know how to maximize our happiness and minimize our pain. But aren’t the technocratic few also “people” too? Subject to all the failings that come along with their humanity?

      In other words, “When technocrats have the power to choose, they choose wrong.”

  10. Fake covid vaccine cards will be sold everywhere vaccine mandates are imposed by totalitarian left wing Democrats.

    While some employers may be able to identify some of the fake covid vaccine cards presented by employees, that won’t be the case with retailers, restaurants, bars, gyms and other businesses, which will be unlikely (and not motived) to challenge the validity of any covid vaccine cards that are presented by customers.

    Left wing Democrats have finally figured out a way to create a new and thriving industry for entrepreneurs (i.e. fake covid cards).

    1. Eventually it is will probably be a verifiable digital ID. Then paper will not be accepted.

      1. *** rising intonation ***

        What about the Digital Divide?

        1. As a life long early adopter, programmer, and technologist, I’ll definitely be on the wrong side of that divide.

          I refuse to bring my phone with me most times. When I do it is as a way to call a tow truck if I break down on a long drive, and it is off. Smartphones are a bane on society. Just my pet peeve.

          But… it’s worse for the people who can’t even find their way to a DMV to get an old school ID. I mean, however would they be able to go to a T-Mobile store and buy a complex electronic device that requires an expensive monthly subscription?

          1. Cars still start if you don’t have a licence

            1. Not if all autos are mandated to have “safety” devices installed to stop them from operating.

              Think it’s out there? See the recent articles on all cars being required to have anti drunk driving lockouts.

              But, that’s beside the point. If underserved communities (the same ones theoretically disenfranchised by having to have an ID to vote) and the poor are required to have a smart phone to provide digital proof of their identification and whether they’re allowed to do anything, you’re really leaving the most indigent and less fortunate out of society and giving them a very high barrier to return to the fold.

              1. Well, you know the saying about eggs and omelettes…

      2. In Illinois, it’s apparently being run by Experion.
        So nice that vax disobedience will not be punished through credit downgrades…

        1. Plus they are guaranteed to lose your data to a hacker. We all know how much they care about security.

      3. When I got my vaccine (a single J&J vaccine) in April, they just gave me a cardboard card with the vaccine name and date written on the card.

        If I had lost or threw my card out, I doubt the pharmacy could even verify that I received the vaccine from them (even if I told them the date which I got it). Although I showed the pharmacy my driver’s license for ID, the pharmacists told me I didn’t legally have to show them any ID to receive the vaccine.

        Also, those of us (including many/most senior citizens) who don’t have smart phones will not be able to produce any digital verification.

        Seems like the CDC never anticipated fake vaccine cards when they designed the cards for covid vaccines.

        1. Much depends on the exact pharmacy, and possibly your state’s regulations but unless it was some sort of extraordinary mass vaccination and not done at the pharmacy they should have your dates in their computer system. A simple phone call will at least answer the question.

          I got mine through a pharmacy, but at a ‘vaccine clinic’ in another health care facility. There was duplicate paperwork that I signed, and I got the card as well. I’m confident that paperwork is stored somewhere, but suspect retrieval might prove difficult.

          1. That first part was unclear. What I meant is, if you got it at the pharmacy then more likely than not it was entered into their computer system as part of your prescription profile.

            1. Yup it is a pharmaceutical. They have a record. I got mine at Walgreens. All of them share the same database for anything you get.

            2. I was done at a mass site. They didn’t have me fill out squat. THey should have a record as I signed up online and scheduled, but if someone else was in the car when you arrived — with or without an appointment — they didn’t ask. They just vaccinated whoever wanted one.

              So, even if they did record me, where they hell do I go to get a replacement card? I have no idea.

        2. I think the original design was for your own records, so you would remember. Not designed as a passport.

        3. I know, where I work (Walmart) got rid of all the price scanners in the store, trying to force people to use the Walmart phone app to do it.

          Holy crap people get angry when you mention this to them.

          1. Symphony here is requiring you have their app to enter the local outdoor venue. They keep saying how great it will be and they’ll even give you relevant special offers…

            They want to force you to have the phone so they can track all your movements, slurp your data, and beam you an ad when you walk past the bar or one of the food vendors. And they advertise this like it’s a GOOD thing.

            I’m no longer a supporter. The weasel word advertising isn’t as clever as they think it is, it’s obnoxious. And, frankly, it’s lies. This is not “for your convenience”. The anti-digital revolution can’t come fast enough.

            1. Reminds me of “free but mandatory” visual cortex implants from some cyberpunk story, but I forget which one. No right to not be advertised to and directly into your brain.

    2. Which will lead to the biometric imprinting in some form or fashion that they crave so badly.

    3. Everyone needs to get together and devise a plan to get rid of left wing democrats. So we can be free.

      How much more are we going to take?

  11. The upper limit of what the nanny-statists will demand is a frontier that they are still exploring. We have no idea when they will stop, if ever. Australia is now arresting the kids of unvaccinated families and shipping them to large camps, where they will receive both forced vaccinations and indoctrination, and may never be allowed to go home.

    It will stop when we make it stop — by not complying — and not a second sooner.

    1. Australia is now arresting the kids of unvaccinated families and shipping them to large camps

      Sheesh, and to think, I was just joking down below about camps for the unvaxxed. For a nation that started out as a penal colony the Aussies sure are a bunch of easily lead pussies.

      1. Genetically, they are prisoners, and so Australia is treating them like prisoners.

  12. Vaccine and test apps won’t work on my phone. Because it’s six year old. Quite new in most respects, but mobile developers assume everyone has last year’s $800 phone and make absolutely no provisions for older phones. I hate mobile developers. God made mobile developers so web developers could have someone to look down on.

    At work where I need pruuf of negative test, I can get a card to show instead. But that’s work only.
    So….. travel will necessitate buying a new phone. Oh joy. Sure, maybe there will be an official test card I can use, but being official my at home test kits won’t work, I will have to go to an official site to get my nose swabbed. This is so much bullshit when I’m fucking vaccinated.

    WHY ARE VACCINATED PEOPLE BEING PUNISHED FOR GETTING VACCINATED!

    1. Don’t hte fucking Democrats realize that punishing the vaccinated by treated them as unvaccinated only discourages vaccination? Wanna know why more people aren’t vaccinated? Because this president and people in his party are ACTIVELY DISOURAGING VACCINATIONS!

      1. Your life has no value.

        1. Not entirely true. Your compliance makes them happy.

          Smiley Faced Taliban – they need you around because they need somebody to submit to them.

          1. Oh, I was telling brandybuck its life has no value.
            Fuck their assessments.

        2. And progressives have no right to exist. Slavers must be dealt with.

      2. Don’t hte fucking Democrats realize that punishing the vaccinated by treated them as unvaccinated only discourages vaccination?

        No. They’re government drones which means they’re incapable of thinking through anything past the first step and definitely can’t fathom the concept of “unintended consequences.” Their entire thought process seems to boil down to:

        Step 1: Pass law mandating this or prohibiting that
        Step 2: ???
        Step 3: Utopia

        1. Step 1: steal underpants.
          Step 2: ????
          Step 3: profits.

      3. Think back to high school, Brandybuck, when the principal would cancel the junior prom because he caught some kids smoking cigarettes in the boys room. In the absence of 100% compliance, there would be 100% punishment. The theory was that the “good kids” would get mad at the “bad kids” and browbeat the latter into following the rules.

        The reality? All kids, obedient or otherwise, united against the common enemy. Anyone who spoke out in favor of compliance with the rules was attacked as a narc and a traitor. And “good kids” started misbehaving themselves because they realized that following the rules gained them nothing.

        Biden and the Democrats did not learn this lesson. They think that putting all of America on Double Secret Probation will work better than it did in high school.

      4. Contemplate sometime the logic behind “sin taxes”. They are sold with an argument such as, “We want to discourage people from smoking, and what better way than making cigarettes more than expensive.” Never mind that the taxes have just made smoking a source of income the government becomes dependent upon, so the government soon has a perverse incentive to keep smokers smoking and not raise the tax too much.

        1. This is you. What you and your friends do. Overreach and abuse by government.

    2. Hey, Brandyshit! You got what you deserve; no more mean tweets! Happy now?

    3. God made mobile developers so web developers could have someone to look down on.

      In their defense, many of them were born after the libraries that run your phone became obsolete.

    4. WHY ARE VACCINATED PEOPLE BEING PUNISHED FOR GETTING VACCINATED!

      Now you understand why I won’t be getting a booster shot. Because I know that’s not the end of it.

      1. Vaccination is The Science’s form of communion.
        As such, it is necessarily repetitive.

    5. Here in New York, an excelsior pass printed on a piece of paper works just fine, no phone needed. Where are yiu?

    6. Why should unvaccinated people be punished?

      1. ^

        Because weak little lemmings resent the hell out of anyone less obedient than them.

  13. What purpose is there in controlling COVID-positive people from traveling to locations that are already full of COVID? Yes, yes, I know that the real answer is “power” but what is the fake answer?

    1. Old Cartoon Strip:

      Mom: (In Kitchen) Hears pounding coming from the living room, goes to see what it is about.

      Mom: (Enters living room) “CALVIN! WHY ARE YOU POUNDING NAILS INTO THE COFFEE TABLE???”

      Calvin: Looks curiously at Mom, then the table, then back at mom. “Is this a trick question?”

      1. Did you ever notice that the pseudoscientific answers Calvin’s dad gave to his questions parallel Fauci’s ongoing proclamations?

  14. 99.97 percent survival rate. 70 percent of fatalities obese. But Matt thinks we should mask up 5 year olds.

    1. 70 percent of fatalities obese.

      In order to help prevent the spread of COVID this establishment has a strict policy of No Fat Chicks.

      1. Fat shaming is racist or something.

        1. I believe the term is “fatuous”

          1. Are you describing Chemjeff?

        2. It’s not shaming. It’s Science!

    2. Sadly, there are a lot of obese 5 year olds.

  15. I dunno. Some insane notion that there is any way to contain or control a virus that is endemic pretty much everywhere?

    1. Zero covid strategy. You’re either with us, or a Trump voter.

  16. There is no moral obligation to vaccinate ones self in order to protect others from a natural pathogen. You did not create the virus (unless you are a virologist in Wuhan), so you have no responsibility for its spread.

    To be sure, choosing to vaccinate can benefit your community, as well as yourself. But then so too does free exchange of goods and services and charity work. The fact that these things are beneficial does not put an obligation upon us to do those things.

    What Mr Welch has observed this month- and pretty much every piece of gawdawful policy and culture war BS that has come from the Pandemic this year- can be easily explained as the result of people believing that we have a moral obligation to protect others from the virus.

    In a sane world, people would not be judged for looking at the science and making a decision that makes sense for them. Because your neighbor’s vaccination status is not his obligation to you, it might at most be a curiosity. If he did vaccinate, you might say, “Nice, that benefits me as well!” But your appreciation would be the same as if he chose to re-landscape his yard, increasing the value of the neighborhood- he didn’t have to do it, but his gain is also your gain.

    In this sane world, you might advise your new neighbor to put chicken wire around his garden to protect it from the rabbits in the green belt. And you might advise him to get vaccinated to protect his family from the WuFlu. If he declined to do either and paid a price, you might pitty him, or even have a moment of smugness, but that is about it. You know he is going to pay for the consequences for his actions and that is it. Meanwhile you protect your property and family as you see fit.

    It is only when we feel that our neighbor is obligated to protect us that we start making everything so fucking complicated. If his read of the facts doesn’t lead him to fulfill the obligation you have (erroneously) placed on him, then he must have the wrong facts. And so the STAKES of science are that much higher. And we get many sage articles explaining why some senator is “overstating” certain studies, or another former president is being “irresponsible” for having a different opinion.

    And then it escalates- because we are now full on insane- and we are confronting people in the park and shaming them for not fulfilling this invalid obligation you have unfairly placed on them. We are appealing to our employers and state and federal governments- “Please force these people to fulfill the positive obligation I have placed on their actions!”

    And then we have gone from insane to Welch’s surreal Brazil-en-France experience, where government after government comes up with their own convoluted way to force people to fulfill a bankrupt obligation. No longer are facts being reviewed neighbor by neighbor- and actions taken based on what fits for them. No, we have decisions made by Poli Sci interns in another city, who take one or two pieces of badly sourced data to force a single solution on a pluralistic and dynamic society.

    This is the bizarre world we live in today, because people have taken for granted that they can impose an obligation on someone else to protect them from nature. And it is why I continue to take the Reason Writers to task for their articles. Even when they argue for liberty (as opposed to trying to science’splain us) they are arguing at the margins. They want to talk about our privacy, or the inconvenience of traveling when they should be making the strongest argument for why we must not impose these obligations upon one another.

    1. Charity is not the same. You have no obligation to give charity. You do have an obligation to protect potential harm to others based on your actions or inactions if you can.

      You do not keep your firearms safely stored when there are children around because it is charitable to do so.

      If the possible mechanism of potential harm comes from nature it is immaterial. Hypothetical example. You find out that your well is contaminated with a dangerous pathogen which could infect people downstream. Most of us would agree that you have an obligation to do something about it if you can.

      In this case there are a lot of unknowns so we can disagree about the evidence one way or the other. It is basic to libertarian philosophy that liberty and responsibility are inseparable. One can make choices but one needs to take ownership of those choices.

      1. Here we see echospinner make the argument used to justify totalitarianism and genocide. He does so quite often.
        In my opinion, if he can’t shut the fuck up he has the responsibility to end his malignant life.

        1. Seriously, this collectivist malevolence that cloaks itself in the language of altruistic moral responsibility needs to be pushed back on, and people who lie to advance their resentful, misanthropic desire to control the lives of others need to face physical consequences for their fraudulent attempts at manipulation.
          Echospinner knows he’s full of shit, but he thinks he’s entitled to make your life worse in order to make him feel better about himself.

      2. In your hypothetical, the person is cleaning the well and the downstream neighbors are still getting contaminated water because the cleaning agent doesn’t actually eliminate the pathogen.

        So does that mean you think the vaccinated sick person who passes the virus around is at fault too? Or does it just apply to unvaccinated people?

        1. The vaccinated person has done all he can for himself and others.

          The unvaccinated person has not.

          1. I call bull. I already had covid. I have robust antibodies and a blood test to prove it. There is no logical reason for me to get vaccinated. It helps no one, and it especially doesn’t help me. Meanwhile, I personally know 4 people right now who are fully vaccinated and sick with covid. Not asymptomatic; SICK. Getting vaccinated has nothing to do with helping others, as it does not stop you from contracting the virus and passing it to others. In fact, an argument can be made that vaccination is actually harmful to others, as it allegedly lessons your symptoms, which would make it more likely for you to be carrying around a virus unknowingly and infecting others.

            1. I never excluded acquired immunity. It is not a goal is it? Prevention of disease is the goal given it is not yet entirely achieved.

          2. Nonsense. You don’t know that. Vaccination alone, given the empirical evidence (Barnstable/Provincetown, anyone? Viral loads being “about the same” in vaccinated/unvaccinated infected individuals?), now betrays itself as mere virtue-signalling. Leading a healthy lifestyle (eating properly, exercising and getting plenty of sleep) is well-known to fortify the immune system. Simply taking the vaccine is a lazy shortcut to ersatz valor if you have not otherwise taken steps to safeguard your health. Your reductive assertion is naked oversimplification.

      3. “You do have an obligation to protect potential harm to others based on your actions or inactions if you can.”

        Ooops…You almost had it. The problem was slipping in “inactions”. If my inaction would allow you to suffer damage due to a natural cause, I have ZERO obligation to act. I am not obligated to push you out of the way of a falling tree, or charge into a burning building to save you. Inaction in these circumstances is entirely neutral- neither a good thing or a bad thing. Indeed, society has long recognized that people aren’t OBLIGATED to act, which is we refer to those who do act as heroes.

        For you to say I have an obligation to protect you is for you to somehow put my free agency at your service- often times referred to as slavery.

      4. “Hypothetical example. You find out that your well is contaminated with a dangerous pathogen which could infect people downstream. Most of us would agree that you have an obligation to do something about it if you can.”

        I forgot to address this. This analogy doesn’t really make sense. How is your well going down stream? Wells are wells because they pump water from underground for you to consume. If the well water is ending up downstream, it is because you are acting- dumping water into a river where it transits downstream. You are not obligated to clear the pathogen, but you are obligated to NOT dump infected water.

        The better analogy is that you and several neighbors share a stream that runs through your lands. As is often the case in your region, there are many pathogens in that water that are dangerous to drink. So you setup a water purification system that takes (your legal share of) water and purifies it for use in your house. The rest of the water, including the pathogens, transit downstream to the next series of properties.

        Now those pathogens aren’t your fault. They are just a basic fact of nature. The default condition is that you and your neighbors have diseased water on y’alls property. The fact that the water runs through your property en route to your neighbor doesn’t suddenly obligate you to purify it for that neighbor. If they want to purify water for themselves, that is their right, and if you charitably purify the water for them, good on you. But you are under no obligation to do so.

      5. That would apply to someone who is infected and are infectious at that time.
        You can’t put the same restrictions or obligations on people who are not infected of the virus – vaccinated or not vaccinated. At worst, a person is infectious of Covid only a few days in their entire lifespan.

  17. I know, I know, First World problems, amirite? Except this is the future many American politicians, public health officials, and journalists seem to want, right here at home.

    Which was always the whole point, to get those “unwashed masses” out of the way so that the elites and those who can afford it can go about their lives without having to encounter any of the hoi-polloi.

    “A no-fly list for unvaccinated adults is an obvious step that the federal government should take,” wrote former Obama administration Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security for Intergovernmental Affairs Juliette Kayyem in The Atlantic this month. “We have to move from the…carrots of luring people, talking to them about the science, giving them extra pay lottery systems,” Kayyem further explained on PBS, “to a system of sticks where there will be burdens, privileges will be denied.”

    Hey, I’ve got a better idea: let’s just round up all of the unvaccinated people and store them somewhere so they can’t infect their betters. You know, “concentrate” them somewhere in some kind of “camp.” Maybe even hang a big sign over the entrance that says “Vaccination will set you free” or something. Eh, probably would sound better in German.

    Fuck off and die in a fire, bitch.

    1. Fuck off and die in a fire, bitch.

      Ironic, because it is people like her who will put people like you in the ovens.

      1. Like that cunt would actually get her own hands dirty. No, people like her will always have plenty of jack booted thugs willing and able to “break some eggs” for them.

    2. NB: Juliette Kayyem not-so-blithely skipped from “Just get vaccinated” to “Interstate travel is a privilege.” Reason’s leftist open borders policy for the motherfucking win!

      NB to the NB: TSA is already ineffective against macroscopic pathogens and makes it relatively cheaper, faster, and easier to drive just about everywhere I go. The Transportation Public Health Administration would be more effective if it just went around to every plane at the airport and slit the pilots’ throats.

      1. Interstate travel is not a “privilege.” It is a constitutional right. Didn’t the Constitutional Scholar she once worked for teach her that?

        1. Do you really expect an answer to that?

          That piece of shit spent 8 years sucking corporate cock and got paid well for it.

  18. Back in January my wife and I took advantage of the rock bottom pandemic pricing and booked a trip to Plya Del Carmen with our son, his wife and our grandkids. We had both already had the virus but not knowing then what level of bullshit we’d encounter when we got there in June we reluctantly got the J&J jab. No issues getting into Mexico but we had to be tested to get back into the US. Three weeks after we got back the province down there imposed a vaccine mandate. J&J hasn’t come up with a second jab yet but I’ll be surprised if they don’t decide to get a piece of the action. I will not be a volunteer.

    1. And the big problem with these vaccines is, because they were released under and emergency authorization, we don’t really know what multiple “boosters” are going to do to people, nor the ideal time frame for them if they are “safe and effective” to get multiple shots with forever. My MIL came down with heart inflammation and an accelerated heart rate all of a sudden after she got her second shot, which basically caused my wife to swear off of them as long as she can, unless she has to get one for work.

      They just haven’t done enough long-term studies on this that I’m comfortable with, so I’m basically in the same boat on my J&J. Hopefully Novavax gets authorized to release theirs sooner rather than later; apparently having sufficient supply is the main issue, not efficacy or safety.

      1. Yes, if I do anything it will be the NoOvavax – unfortunately it has been delayed here. Not sure why. Will watch the data out of the other countries getting it.

  19. Uggg… today I had to stop for a red light when I drove into work. Next, on the interstate the government set up lanes where they actually compel us to drive. Literal fucking fascism in America.

    1. American Socialist, King of the Non Sequitur.

    2. If you have to stop at a red light it means you didn’t lock down hard enough:

      The rise in fatalities can likely be attributed in part to the documented increase in speeding in our city during the COVID-19 pandemic, when fewer people have been driving and the roads are less congested.

      This reflects a national trend, but Chicago’s increase in deaths was far worse than the nationwide average. According the advocacy group the National Safety Council, within the first nine months of 2020 the total number of miles driven in the U.S. dropped 14.5 percent compared to the previous year, but crash deaths were up by 5 percent.

      Most of the rise in total 2020 Chicago traffic deaths was due to more motorist fatalities. The number of motor vehicle drivers and passengers killed in crashes increased from 52 in 2019, to 92 last year, a staggering 77 percent increase. That’s also far above the five-year average of 65.4 motorist fatalities.

      During the pandemic, more people have turned to cycling as a form of socially-distanced transportation and recreation. Chicago has also saw a spike in cycling deaths in 2020, with nine total on-street fatalities, more than any other year in the past decade, and a 125 percent increase from 2019. (CDOT’s chart only shows 8 biking deaths — see a list of the nine fatal on-street crashes at the end of this post.) That’s well above the five-year average of six cycling fatalities.

      1. These are what are counted as “excess deaths”. Do you see how dangerous COVID is?

    3. You are an idiot.

    4. Says the salad tosser as he creates completely bogus false equivalencies.

  20. I know, I know, First World problems, amirite?
    No. Wanting to see family isn’t a first world problem, the fact that they happen to be situated internationally does not change that much. Hoping for it being smooth as possible is not some spoiled tantrum.

    When are you going to just move out of NYC though, Matt? No place is perfect, and the world has a lot of problems, but there are legitimately better places that don’t quite yet attempt to crush you spirit in every possible way, visible and I visible.

    I feel for you Matt, though. I really do.

  21. What idiots don’t seem to comprehend is this isn’t forever. Newsflash- you want all this shit to go away? Just get the damn shot and tell all your idiot friends to get it too!

    1. “DO AS I SAY AND YOU SHALL BE FREE”

      Get up off of your damn knees.

    2. What idiots don’t seem to comprehend is this isn’t forever.

      Those in charge are certainly not acting like this is temporary.

      So far Boris Johnson is the only world leader to say, “it’s over, move on”; everyone else is responding to every new case and emergent variant like it’s February 2020 all over again. But the second his opponents get back into power they plan to turn the country over to the worrywarts at SAGE and wash their hands of political accountability, just like their cousins across the Irish Sea.

    3. What idiots don’t seem to comprehend is this isn’t forever.

      Yes, it is. We will never eliminate COVID from humanity. Even if we did, other mammals would still carry it. Even if we eliminate the contagion itself, large chunks of the viral genome are encoded into ours and other mammal’s genomes and the widespread use of mRNA vaccines ensure that the spike protein gets incorporated into ours.

      1. Even if we did, other mammals would still carry it.

        Is there any evidence Fauci isn’t working with the Wuhan lab to make the next one?

        1. They might be inspired to continue work on their own.

      2. Dunning Kruger effect on full display with raspberrydinners.

    4. Two weeks to flatten the curve!

      1. I’m tempted to say, “Two seconds to flatten your face”, to some of these people.

        1. Don’t say, do.

    5. Just get the damn shot and tell all your idiot friends to get it too!

      I did get the shot. But even if 100% of American citizens get the “damn shot” bear in mind that we live in a larger world. Do you think it’s even remotely feasible to have every living human on the entire fucking planet to get the shot? And the boosters? And to somehow keep accurate records of all of it?

      Why is it that for a socialist the only acceptable solution is the unattainable utopian one?

      1. Why is it that for a socialist the only acceptable solution is the unattainable utopian one?

        Because their system will only ever “work” in a utopian dream world.

    6. It won’t go away. That’s an unscientific proposition.

    7. Don’t worry! Lucy will let me kick that football one of these days. I just need to keep kicking!

    8. Fuck off, slaver.

    9. No mercy for those who toughed it out and recovered? Let me guess. Fuck me, that’s why?

      Hmm, my response to the deep state fascist Juliette Kayyem and raspberry dinners are the same. I wonder what they have in common?

    10. crossed into jeff-levels of boring zzzzz

    11. If enough idiots like you keep thinking it will ever “go away”, then yes, it will last forever.

    12. What idiots don’t seem to comprehend is this isn’t forever.

      Fuck that. Where in the mandates is the end game stated? Until 90% vaccinated? Positivity rate less than X? What?

      With no stated goals, you never have to declare victory and you get to go on forever.
      See “War on poverty”, “War on drugs”, “End racism”, “Defeat COVID”, etc.

    13. Would that be the shot that they’re saying you need to get a third dose of?

    14. There’s a shot to vaccinate against tyranny too. You get it once and you’re cured forever.

    15. Just two more weeks!

    16. What you don’t seem to realize is this virus is NEVER going away. It is here to stay. Vaccines or no vaccines.

      It’s now endemic. Get fucking used to it.

      1. Funny thing, all this hand wringing will mean nothing in a few weeks.

        Delta will spike. Then it will drop off. Deaths will happen, but they’ll be overwhelmingly unvaccinated, and way lower than the January surge. Then lots of people will have been exposed to Delta because the benefit of a rapidly spreading virus is that it gets out there fast.

        By the time this happens a few times, the bulk of the population is vaccinated and/or exposed, and Covid becomes like the flu, we’ll have no real freedom left, of course. I’m getting very pessimistic.

        1. Covid has always been like the flu, it’s just been tracked and measured much differently.

    17. Three weeks to slow the spread!!!!

      Seriously, fuck you shitlunches.

  22. “I don’t plan on entering those spaces.”

    Bull-fucking-shit, Welch. You keep bitching about leftist totalitarianism and you keep living in NYC.

    If you are willing to swear off NYC bars/restaurants/etc. that require vaggsines, then why not just move somewhere else? Because you’re lying.

    Another masks-in-school whine in this one, too… Escape from your pod, already!

  23. And yet it is too much to ask for an ID to be able to vote?

    1. systematic racism$#@%%^*^!

    2. This is Security Theater, show your ID. Systemic Racism is down the hall on the left, you can walk right in.

    3. The previous election was as secure as Kabul is now after Biden’s botch.

  24. A minor correction. The US now accepts Antigen tests as well as PCR tests for people returning to the US.

    I was also in France last week, and our PCR test results hadn’t returned in time for our flight, and I checked it out and discovered that Antigen tests are now good enough to enter the US, so I went to one of the pop-up antigen testing sites all over France and paid 29 Euro and had my results in 6 minutes.

  25. “A no-fly list for unvaccinated adults is an obvious step that the federal government should take,” wrote former Obama administration Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security for Intergovernmental Affairs Juliette Kayyem in The Atlantic this month. “We have to move from the…carrots of luring people, talking to them about the science, giving them extra pay lottery systems,” Kayyem further explained on PBS, “to a system of sticks where there will be burdens, privileges will be denied.”

    No mercy for those who toughed it out and recovered? Let me guess. Fuck me, that’s why?

    1. What about those who cannot be vaccinated for religious or medical reasons? If they are excluded from areas of public accommodation because they lack vaccination cards, that is a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act (religion) and the Americans with Disabilities Act (medical condition). So the business owners get nailed if they comply and nailed if they do not.

      1. I do not know of any religions. Perhaps there are. I am Jewish so there is the principle of p’kuach nefesh. It means preservation of life and health which supersedes everything else in Jewish law.

        Recently read an article about the top Haredi (ultra orthodox) rabbi in Israel who berated and kicked out a student for promoting anti vaxxer propaganda.

        I know the Catholic pope has called for vaccinations. The vast majority of Protestant denominations do. Muslim authorities have as well. Those religions consider it obligatory.

        Perhaps there are a few out there who object.

        So far as I know other than a few nutters out there I do not see much as a religious barrier.

        Medical reasons do exist. Those are exceptions.

        1. Religious freedom was never meant to be well defined approved boxes of beliefs. It is whatever I want to hold true. There is a giant flying spaghetti monster in the sky and she told me not to

          1. The official church of the Giant Flying Spaghetti Monster is all for vaccines and berates those who oppose it.

            Stance on Vaccination 14 April 2015
            ************************ MEDIA RELEASE 14 April 2015 ************************

            In response to several recent inquiries as to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Australia’s, and indeed the Flying Spaghetti Monster’s, stance on vaccination we would like to state;

            “The Flying Spaghetti Monster is all for taking full advantage of medical treatments that are available. He approves of wooden legs for pirates whose legs have been lost to cannon fire, he approves of eye patches for sockets that are missing one, and so, where vaccinations are available to prevent scurvy dog sicknesses and others, He approves.

            He is not known for suffering the bleating of fools gladly, and this includes the bleating of anti-vaxxers.

            Please do not hesitate to contact us if you would like more information.

            Yours in Parmesan,
            Tanya Watkins
            Captain, Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Australia.”

            https://pastafarians.org.au/media-releases/mediarelease14042015/

            1. Heretics. I denounce their sect.

              1. Yet flying fettuccine monster sectarians doesn’t work. Too flat and wide.

                Besides they have allied with the evil alfredos.

            2. “He”?

        2. I was raised church of God and they are anti medicine, period. (At least my sect was) Not just anti vaccine.

        3. Christian Scientists for one.

          1. “For more than a century, our denomination has counseled respect for public health authorities and conscientious obedience to the laws of the land, including those requiring vaccination. Christian Scientists report suspected communicable disease, obey quarantines, and strive to cooperate with measures considered necessary by public health officials. We see this as a matter of basic Golden Rule ethics and New Testament love.”

            https://www.christianscience.com/press-room/a-christian-science-perspective-on-vaccination-and-public-health

    2. While we are at it, no more flights for fatties. Sorry, but we love you to much to allow you freedoms. While we are bringing sticks into it – no guns, fishing, purchasing meat, or communicating online – unless you are fully jabbed and not fat.

    3. The great irony is that I was sicker from my 1st vaccination shot than I was from actually having Covid (which was like a mild case of the flu combined with no sense of smell)

      1. Are you trying to spread facts that contradict the narrative?

        Off with his head!

  26. Yeah billions of people around the world in countries heavily dependent on tourism income are in a conspiracy to keep everyone home!! https://www.reuters.com/world/countries-make-covid-19-vaccines-mandatory-2021-07-13/

    1. You know that James C. Smith, on the board of directors of Pfizer, is also the James C. Smith, former president, CEO, and director of Reuters, right? Current director of Reuters “Foundation”? Oh wait, Bill Gates owns Biontech too, right? Yeah, the media has absolutely no reason to push mandatory vaccinations.

  27. So far I haven’t been exhausted by these so-called restrictions, as I haven’t faced any. I go where I choose, eat where I choose, shop where I choose, and hang out with all of the same people I did before. No masks, no jabs (for me, I don’t poke my nose in others’ business), and no problems.

    I never flew before the hoax, and have no reason to suddenly take it up. So no changes there either. If I want to go somewhere, driving is more than adequate as I didn’t commute by train or bus. If I want to go a long distance, getting there in a day or two is just as good as a few hours (or a day with all of the airport bullshit).

  28. Complying with COVID 19 protocols is not difficult–at least for responsible and mature people. Those who are too self absorbed to comply with protocols and/or too bull headed and stupid to get the vaccine deserve to be ostracized. They have created a second round of a pandemic which could have and should have been under control by now. The necessity for renewed adherence to COVID protocols has been created entirely by the unvaccinated.
    My right to live an ordinary life is undermined by ever unvaccinated person I come into contact with.

    The irresponsible politicians who are undermining basic COVID protocols need to step aside and let responsible adults govern their states. (Ron DeSantis has been deemed governor DeathSantis–which is very fitting.) The unvaccinated DO need to stay home, until they decide to be responsible adults and get vaccinated, Then, the rest of us can have our lives back.

    1. You have no “right” to live in a society without unvaccinated people. You might as well live in a society without any undocumented aliens or any immigration. “If you don’t get vaccinated, we can’t let you immigrate here, sorry.”

      The vaccine warriors have to carefully read over all of their positions, compared them to policies authoritarian societies, and remember the kind of rhetoric they lobbed at the GOP, and ponder – “Wait a minute, are we the bad guys here?”

      1. They know they’re the bad guys.
        They think that makes them better than you.

      2. Yes we jolly damn well do have a right to live in a world free of plague, you goddamn idiot.

        Much more primitive people than you have gladly taken vaccines that end plagues. And you reject the most technologically sophisticated one ever made by science because a moron with a TV show thinks you’ll pay good money for pillows.

        The non-aggression principle applies to deadly diseases the same as it does to clubs and guns. You’re just as dead, are you not?

        Not every rule or good practice is tyranny, you insane child.

        1. Why did 75% of Americans reject the swine flu vaccine?

    2. “ Ron DeSantis has been deemed governor DeathSantis–which is very fitting.)”

      Either you’re larping OBL or you’re fucking dumb as a door knob. There’s only one Emmy award winning governor that I know of that snuffed out the elderly out of malevolence and incompetence and that motherfucker ain’t the governor of Florida. Anyways, you do you retard, and keep poking your ass out to your masters. It’s a good thing there are people in positions of authority to direct morons like you in your every day life. Get your booster and don’t forget to wear your helmet, citizen!

    3. Well the virus had something to do with it. Delta is badass.

      1. Fuck off and die, midwit pussy.

    4. My right to live an ordinary life is undermined by ever unvaccinated person I come into contact with.

      Because you bought and used a vaccine that doesn’t work? Because they might transmit a virus through you to your unvaccinated grandma? Because they might transmit a virus to their unvaccinated grandma? Because they passed laws saying that vaccinated people should be locked in their homes until everyone’s vaccinated? How exactly are they undermining your right to live an ordinary life?

      Essentially, you’re saying that as long as stupid people exist, you’re being denied your right to be smart, and then proving it to be true.

    5. Those who are too self absorbed to comply with protocols and/or too bull headed and stupid to get the vaccine deserve to be ostracized. They have created a second round of a pandemic which could have and should have been under control by now. The necessity for renewed adherence to COVID protocols has been created entirely by the unvaccinated.

      How did that work out in Israel, you dumbshit?

    6. “Those who are too self absorbed to comply with protocols…My right to live an ordinary life is undermined by ever unvaccinated person I come into contact with.”

      It is precious to see someone complain about those *selfish* unvaccinated, then demand that they stick a needle in their arms to protect him.

      You have no right to force somebody to protect you from a natural threat. Diseases are a natural fact of life- they have been coursing through the air, water, our pets and our bodies since time immemorial. I am no more obligated to vaccinate myself for your protection than I am obligated to sit on your porch and guard your property from rabid dogs.

      Viruses do what viruses do, and that is not my responsibility. It has always been your responsibility to protect yourself from the ravages of nature- wear a coat, wear sunscreen, clear out of the path of hurricanes. Get vaccinated to protect yourself.

      If you want to get pissed off, get pissed off at your elected leaders who seem to think it is your obligation to protect them from WuFlu.

    7. MidnightMike is a totalitarian leftist fascist.
      What he called “protocols” are unconstitutional opportunistic power grabs by a global elite.

      What’s happening in America and the around the world is the rollout of a global corporate fascist oligarchy.

      Governments partnered with corporations to censor, misinform, spread propaganda, dehumanize, to use coercion of loss of employment to forcibly inject experimental mRNA into humans, then use corporations to enforce passports/required walking papers, this is totalitarianism. That’s what lockdowns of entire populations are, forcing adults and children alike to cover their faces like slaves. It’s here. Now. Fascism is here. And it came from the Left.

      Australia is under martial law. They’re arresting little girls for not covering their face for a virus that does not affect them. It’s equivalent to the Taliban conquering Afghanistan. The modern left is the America’s Taliban. France, is now an authoritarian state with forced injections, forced walking-papers to live, and forced facial coverings and conformity. New York City is under fascist rule.

      What midnightmike calls a “vaccine” is an experimental mRNA gene therapy drug. It contains no live, weakened, or deactivated virus. It is man-made mRNA that turns humans into spike protein factories. For a Chinese communist man-made virus that for most of the population has a fatality rate less than 99.97%.

      What he calls a “second-round” created by the unvaccinated is the opposite of the truth. The variants are created and spread by those carrying the mRNA-made spike protein.

      Fascists like Midnight Mike who advocate that government lock you in your home or forcibly inject you as a human-experiment they are advocating violence and thus have no right to speak.

      Reason is littered with the new modern-leftists. The modern-leftist is a fascist who is too stupid to even know it .

      Who do all the corporations support? Democrats. Who do the mass media corporations support? Democrats. Which party do the tech monopolies censor for and spread propaganda for? Democrats. Alphabet, Apple, Facebook, Amazon Web Services, those are corporations. They’re partnered with the Democratic Party. Who does the pharmaceutical industrial complex support? Democrats. Who does the deep state subvert our elections for? Democrats. It’s a fascist party. Corporatism is fascism.

      All those lefties marching and burning in 2020 with their hammer and sickle flags thought they were bringing socialism. Never asking why Kamala and mulit-National corporations were funding their bail-money.
      They were marching for fascism and did not even know it. They still have not figured it out. Cognitive dissonance in all its glory. The corporate oligarchy bought their movement. The Left are the ultimate useful idiots.

      1. This guy sounds like the type of person who would bitch and moan about elites, but then argue about how they should pay less in taxes because they’ll give the rest of us a job.

        1. AmSoc: Thinks a person who, by virtue of their poly sci degree, dictates the minutia of your life with the threat of force (An Elite) is basically the same as the person who offers to pay you for your labor.

          Wow.

    8. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

      Your notion that the unvaccinated created this so-called “wave” (which is bullshit itself – the virus is now an endemic entity) is not backed by anything resembling facts.

      So please go pound sand up your ass. Until you can direct me to the long-term safety data on these novel drugs, whereupon I can make an informed decision regarding my health.

      Fuck you very much.

    9. You are a pathetic, fucking serf. Get up off your knees, you cowardly bitch.

    10. If you’re that worried, stay in your fucking house.

  29. new bill of rights – right to live an ordinary life. mmmmkay

  30. France: “or prior recovery from an infection.”

    I hope no one missed that Grand Canyon sized difference. That effectively makes the restrictions temporary for everyone, although being required to show papers is still grounds for revolt.

  31. We also don’t want drunk people leaving their homes and endangering others. Yes, if you don’t care about your fellow man, stay away from other people. Since when do our freedoms give us the right to maim and kill others? We limit personal freedoms in a thousand ways to prevent harm to other people. You can drive 60 mph through a school zone, you can’t practice shooting in the middle of a city. you can’t dump your pig manure next to the city water supply, even on your own land. Unvaccinated you not only risk infecting others, but you may well end up in a hospital sucking up resources away from heart attack victims, cancer patients, people injured in car accidents and shootings. Yes, please stay home.

    1. last time I fired a pig through a school zone it only got up to 42mph

      1. Gotta grease em up better

    2. Seriously?! How long has the flu and corona viruses been here? Exactly!! Longer than you! If you are so afraid of catching something and dying, YOU stay home, you have that choice! Telling everyone else that they need to stay home for you, we owe you nothing, just as you owe me nothing!!! Since when did the world or god, or anyone else for that matter dictate that we owe one another or are responsible for everyone else in the world?! People get cancer, is that our responsibility to cure them or comfort them? No, that is their families responsibility, and any medical professional they go to and ask for help. If I get cancer, I’m not going to ask you to save me, help me, or cure me, my cancer has nothing to do with you and neither does covid or any other virus! You are ignorant and the fact that you want government to control everything is a sign that you will not live a very good life, you obviously haven’t had to struggle or know what it means to be under the control of someone else who tells you when to piss, when to sleep, when to work and all without giving you anything to survive or live a life that is free to do so. Go live in a 3rd world country then come back and talk!

    3. Apparently starting soon, all new cars will required to have breathalyzers in them to start

    4. “Since when do our freedoms give us the right to maim and kill others?”

      Says the guy(?) demanding he has the right to stick a needle in your arms. Precious.

    5. Sounds very noble. Bullshit, but noble.

    6. Just ban shooting people and heart attacks and then those beds should clear right up. It’s not like people unknowingly contract heart disease or bullets.

    7. I posted this yesterday for soneone else, but it applies to you as well:

      The point is that going out unvaccinated can cause harm to others.

      It is not even a potentiality if I am not sick. All of the risk in being unvaccinated is only to myself. If you can’t understand that, you are either willfully ignorant or evil.

      I didn’t get COVID because I was unvaccinated. Nobody coughed or sneezed on me. I got it because I became less diligent about hand sanitizing. Once I knew that I had it, I quarantined until today when I tested negative.

      My wife got COVID even though she was vaccinated. She got it because she chose not to isolate herself from me, and I definitely coughed in her presence. She also quarantined. We know she did not pass on the virus, because her only contacts were at her work in a retirement community and it would be a big giant deal if she had.

      The point being that my vaccination status is absolutely immaterial to anybody else’s risk today, just like it was immaterial 3 weeks ago. The only increase in risk occurred when I was sick.

      It is all fine and dandy if you agree that mandates are bad, but you are feeding the monsters that believe mandates are necessary by exaggerating the underlying risk to others from the unvaccinated. It’s not just that you are unlibertarian, you are completely misapplying the science of risk and the science of disease transmission. I understand why the lefty bastards do it, but you continually claim not be one. What the fuck is your problem then?

    8. This vaccine does not prevent you from contracting or carrying the virus. It only lessons your symptoms. Therefore, an argument can be made that getting the vaccine, while helping you personally, is actually harmful to others, as it increases the likelihood that you would unknowingly spread a virus while asymptomatic. If you were symptomatic, you would stay home away from other people.

  32. ABSOLUTELY! The country is already divided, the labor industry has tanked big time and a lot of people getting ready to be evicted from their place to live is only going to add to the already strained court cases that are fueled by yet another shutdown I foresee! I live in OR and it is crazy, coo-coo for Cocoa Puffs out here! The governor has forced us to wear masks again and she just recently stated that our kiddos don’t need to graduate with the standards! They already did that with grade school and Junior High (middle school), by passing them even if they flunked. Not to mention that here in OR, teachers are allowed to teach about the alphabet community instead of math and science, or gender and the various pronouns for pansexual and trisexual and oddsexual, instead of reading and writing. Instead of reading Mark Twain, they will be reading “Memoirs of a Drag Queen”. This divide in our country if we don’t stand against the government will only get worse and I foresee a mad-max type of world! The insanity needs to stop!

    1. Don’t worry, all those uneducated kids (not that the schools now actually provide any education anyway) will be easier to control in the future.

    2. Mad max is probably best case scenario

  33. So suppose the Kleptocracy says you cannot leave These States without catching a dose of the Communivirus vaccine. Then alluva sudden its meddlesome entanglers at the Pentagon decide to ship people off to Islamabad to kill people in some undeclared war. All the troops need do is decline to be guinea pigs and then proceed to defend the Constitution from invaders? This may not be so bad after all…

  34. So Matt Welsh, as a reader of reason for 20 years, you guys have simply lost it. The UN-Vaccinated do NOT have the “right” to spread Covid-19 to more people, they do NOT have the right to infect my grandchildren who cannot get vaccinated now, they do NOT have the right to continue to spread disinformation (out right lies) by saying vaccination will alter your DNA, make you subservient to US Govt. false propaganda, etc.

    If they refuse to vaccinate, then I, as a US Citizen, refuse to allow them into a vaccinated place that I am occupying. That’s my right.

    As far as I am concerned, any restriction on their activities is a self inflicted wound, and eventually Charles Darwin will thin their ranks. Rank stupidity should not be rewarded nor supported.

    Wake up Matt!!!!!! Please.

    1. You dingers want a fucking war dont ya?

      1. They don’t think they’re going to face any consequences for their attempts to have The State force us to comply with their will.
        We need to change that math for them.

        1. The state is supposed to force you to comply with the rules of society. That is what states do. It’s what all human societies have ever done.

          If you want to be a bug-chasing misanthrope who threatens to kill people for daring to suggest you wash your shitty ass before you go in public, then you deserve to be put in a white padded room, and nobody would call it tyranny. Just public safety.

          My god, the number of rules you expect other people to live be. Like “don’t cross this imaginary line on a map.” What a fucking shitshow you are.

    2. At a less than 1% fatality rate, that herd culling is going to take longer than you will be alive.

    3. Hey Leighton. You can get infected from vaccinated people too. And your cat. And deer.

      Actually, you said your grandkids are unvaccinated? Are you locking them in their houses? I understand that they are too young for the vaccine, but you said you have a RIGHT to be free of un-vaxxed. So I declare kids under the age of 12 to be verbotten. They cannot go to schools, or restaurants or to parks. They need to huddle inside. We should probably kill their cats too, tbh.

      This is the absurdity of your argument. Because you aren’t getting infected by Unvaccinated people. You are getting infected by INFECTED people. Some of those are kids. Some are vaccinated people (As the CDC has specifically said) and some are unvaccinated. Certainly, people who know they are infected have a responsibility to isolate and not knowingly spread the infection.

      But beyond that, you do not have a right to force people to stick needles in their arms for your comfort and protection. Viruses are natural pathogens- they have been coursing through the world for millions of years, and our task as human beings is to protect ourselves from that reality or die. A great miracle has happened in that as social animals we have learned to *voluntarily* collaborate in order to more effectively survive nature’s ravages. VOLUNTARILY. I don’t owe you my vaccination any more than I am obligated to weed your yard. I’ll take your thanks for getting my jab, but understand I didn’t do it because of any obligation to you.

      If you have REALLY been reading this rag for 20 years, you should be ashamed of yourself. A government that can force you to stick a needle in your arm for “public protection” is a government that can prevent you from sticking a needle in your arm for “public protection” or send you to war.

      1. Has anyone been forced to be vaccinated?

        There is no need to rationalize the decision not to get the vaccine. Just don’t. Please stay in your own yard though.

        1. Young women have fertility concerns.

    4. Feel free to limit guests in your home or your business to the vaccinated. Nobody cares.

    5. Are your grandchildren fat, pathetic retards like you?

    6. I posted this yesterday for soneone else, but it applies to you as well:

      The point is that going out unvaccinated can cause harm to others.

      It is not even a potentiality if I am not sick. All of the risk in being unvaccinated is only to yourself. If you can’t understand that, you are either willfully ignorant or evil.

      I didn’t get COVID because I was unvaccinated. Nobody coughed or sneezed on me. I got it because I became less diligent about hand sanitizing. Once I knew that I had it, I quarantined until today when I tested negative.

      My wife got COVID even though she was vaccinated. She got it because she chose not to isolate herself from me, and I definitely coughed in her presence. She also quarantined. We know she did not pass on the virus, because her only contacts were at her work in a retirement community and it would be a big giant deal if she had.

      The point being that my vaccination status is absolutely immaterial to anybody else’s risk today, just like it was immaterial 3 weeks ago. The only increase in risk occurred when I was sick.

      It is all fine and dandy if you agree that mandates are bad, but you are feeding the monsters that believe mandates are necessary by exaggerating the underlying risk to others from the unvaccinated. It’s not just that you are unlibertarian, you are completely misapplying the science of risk and the science of disease transmission. I understand why the lefty bastards do it, but you continually claim not be one. What the fuck is your problem then?

    7. You don’t have any right to control the movements of others. You and your fucking grandspawn can crawl back under your rock until your government masters allow you to do otherwise.

      You just stay out of our way. Or else.

  35. The effectiveness of the vaccines were over-sold. It is likely that the large numbers of vaccine acceptors (including me), spurred on the Delta Variant.

    Still, other than distributing Ivermectin to everyone, we had no other choice. No matter how effective any medication treatment for Covid was or will be, Big Pharma HAD to have its billions.

    I’m not against Big Pharma. I know many of you are. Big Pharma develops orphan drugs. Without their deep pockets, we would not have them.

    Those with Gaucher’s disease, and others would have NO TREATMENT without Big Pharma.

    Try to have understanding on this. In the mean time, if you don’t get vaccinated you need to stick up on Ivermectin/Hydroxychloroquine NOW.

    YES, HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE WORKS IN EARLY STAGES AT THE CORRECT DOSE. Don’t believe that it doesn’t. IT WORKS.

    Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
    Retired surgeon

    1. Um, the delta variant is either the South African or Indian strain. The purpose of the new nomenclature is specifically to confuse the country of origin, so, mission accomplished! Regardless, a country with a very low vaccination rate.

      When you lead off with an obvious error in critical thinking, the rest will rightfully get dimissed as garbage regardless of your internet-pseudonym claimed credentials. And appealing to your own authority is still a logical fallacy.

      1. You are not thinking like a virologist, you are thinking like a tribal monkey. It doesn’t really matter what country it came from. It evolves in Americans too.

        1. Tony, you don’t really understand any of this. Now go away, adults are talking.

          1. Adults are people who think FOX News isn’t lying to them?

    2. Covid is the flu. We have never had a highly effective flu vaccine. Ever in history. And we still don’t. It has mutated and the 95% + claims of effectiveness are BS. Of course the politicians will scapegoat the unvaccinated even as evidence mounts that many being infected are vaccinated.

      But the sheep seem very compliant still. How long until we reach Australian levels of control?

  36. https://twitter.com/davereaboi/status/1428481541622145025?t=Jb11b6CjgmwLYrQOz0Ghjg&s=19

    North Texas Hospital Will Soon Use Vaccination Status to Decide If You’re Worth an ICU Bed [link]

    1. Have they done this with AIDS?

  37. The inability for common sense to win out is amazing!

    Sure people have gotten sick and life’s have been lost, but if here in the states we ate so damn concerned about the “spread” then close the southern border already!

    Reading this it sounds as if it would be easier to just fly south and work back up through Mexico.

    I have been on the road (planes & busses) with 40 playrrs coaching the last 2 years. Not one of the players have tested positive or been sick during the season yet panic and fear is constantly pushed down our throats nightly!

  38. https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1428351482844246026?t=DWj6njx_oNXLJO7RMEDGCQ&s=19

    NEW – Australian Minister Victor Dominello diagnosed with Bell’s palsy after viewers spot drooping eye in NSW press conference.

    [Link]

  39. https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1428502510017339398?t=kVVImfLFasoBPHkbwQda-g&s=19

    I’d wager at least 80% of the people who support vaccine passports but not social credit scores today will offer full-throated support to social credit scores tomorrow.

    That’s what they’re counting on. Find your uncrossable line and make it uncrossable now, if you haven’t yet.

    1. Or perhaps you have a psychological disorder involving paranoia.

      1. Either way, you’re far too stupid to know. Now go back to your glory hole.

  40. “We have to move from the…carrots of luring people, talking to them about the science, giving them extra pay lottery systems,” Kayyem further explained on PBS, “to a system of sticks where there will be burdens, privileges will be denied.”

    Carrots? When did the government ever use carrots? Lottery systems aren’t carrots, they’re get rich schemes for people who are bad at math. Let’s be honest, the only tool the government ever has are sticks. Here’s an example of government thinking;
    Gov’t stick = “The beatings will continue until morale improves.”
    Gov’t carrot = “If morale improves we promise to beat someone else.”

  41. https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1428428700576534528?t=Xum6Zi5A0GGLP0ebvsmPRQ&s=19

    COVID vaccination mandates are taking a dark turn in Australia…
    [Video]

  42. Vaccine wears off after six months. Meanwhile Delta much more transmissible, including to and from kids. Probably one in ten cases will experience Long Covid even if not sick enough to go to hospital. Going to see new wave everywhere after back to school. Enjoy the fall.

  43. The Frogs recognize natural immunity, eh?

  44. Control of infectious diseases is recognised even by minimum-state adherents. And in its absence, ostracism by private means would likely emerge.

    1. ostracism by private means would likely emerge

      Yup, there is no law against being a douchebag. You have the support of actual libertarians in your right to be one.

    2. Just like we ostracize people with AIDS?

  45. This is what reason wanted, what it advocated, what it welcomed while damning anything reasonable and sane.

    They come for you, the useful idiots, first, Matt. You should keep that in mind.

  46. People just want you to stop killing people with stupidity. To practice personal responsibility. To stop spreading disease like bug chasing faggots.

    That’s all that’s going on here. Stop selling ads with mass murder. You’re terrible people. It’s become your defining characteristic: be terrible. To own the libs.

    Feel free to be evolutionary dead ends but stop taking the rest of us with you.

    1. How are they taking the rest of us with them?

      1. The reason there is a pandemic is because the virus is highly contagious.

  47. Killing people with stupidity? Your senile master just did that in spades this week after he completely bungled the Afghanistan withdrawal.

  48. Covid has been found in Antarctica, the most isolated place of human habitation on Earth. It has been found deep in the Amazon jungles, on isolated Pacific Islands, and in wild animals. Yet government officials still want lock downs. It really does beg the question why? Repression? Insanity?

    Or real science? (sarc)

    1. Control. None of this makes scientific sense at all. If you view it from a control perspective it does.

  49. I really want to end this virus and we all will live normal life! cbd reakiro

  50. Wait, staying away from people is punishment? Somehow it doesn’t feel like it….

    1. I’m with you on that. Never was a big restaurant and bar person. Most of the time I am just fine with my family and the dog. The dog seems to be the only one who will listen to what I have to say anyway. Also he is more intelligent than most people I have known.

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  54. Pandemic management pointers from disaffected, vanquished, anti-social, right-wing culture war casualties are always a treat.

  55. The irony here is that these travel requirements are so burdensome precisely because there is so much resistance to having a single, uniform system. In the U.S., we could have implemented a federal system for uploading vaccine administrations and developed a fairly straight-forward app that could verify against the federal database, so that people could move freely and have their vaccinations verified anywhere in the country. We could have worked with major travel destinations like those in Europe to make our systems cross-compatible. But no. Whiny conservatives bitching about the “mark of the devil” made that a politically challenging prospect for Biden, so he demurred, and now we’re stuck with this annoying patchwork of rules and requirements to track.

    Much like the Delta surge itself – we had a solution to the problem we’re now grappling with, but conservative intransigence over minor issues have now put us in the position of trying to address more major ones.

    1. This is parody, right?

  56. Reading the comment section in Reason helps you understand how many people would be ready to denounce their family, friends, neighbors, coworkers and acquaintances because they disagree with them politically. They post here everyday.
    They remind me of Stalin’s army of denouncers in Soviet times. The trouble for them is, there will be someone ready to denounce them too! The denouncer today is the victim tomorrow. Study history.

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