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Gavin Newsom Takes Aim at Larry Elder as California Recall Builds Up Steam

Can Democrats stop acting as if all the governor's critics are Trump-loving insurrectionists?

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It looks like California Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom is recognizing the risks of a recall are real as he takes aim at Republican front-runner, conservative-libertarian radio host Larry Elder.

In a Zoom call at the end of last week, Newsom, without actually naming Elder, referred to him as a Donald Trump supporter who "thinks climate change is a hoax, believes we need more offshore drilling, more fracking, does not believe a woman has a right to choose [and] actually came out against Roe v. Wade, [and] does not believe in a minimum wage."

According to the Los Angeles Times, Newsom even said Elder subscribes to the woefully mistaken belief that Trump actually won reelection. In an interview with the Sacramento Bee, Elder actually made it clear that he believes President Joe Biden won the election, but then went on to complain about how Hillary Clinton did the exact same thing when she lost to Trump in 2016—complain inaccurately about the election being stolen.

Elder, in some of the most recent polling, is the front-runner to replace Newsom should the recall against Newsom succeed. And while early polling had Newsom successfully holding the recall off, subsequent polls have shown more and more undecided voters saying they want to replace the governor, and now the race is dead even as to whether to keep or toss him.

Newsom and the Democratic Party's tactic has been to paint the recall as a plot to seize power by Republicans and to paint everybody involved as pro-Trump anti-vaxxers. And therefore, all the Republicans jockeying to replace Newsom are the same.

But Newsom's tactic here has actually ended up being the opening to give Elder the space to actually talk about what he really believes, and an interview with SFGATE's Eric Ting published Monday lets him hit back at some of these claims. And to give Elder some credit here, he is well aware that just because he holds certain conservative positions doesn't mean he can or will be able to implement them as governor. Yes, he doesn't support the state's minimum wage and he's anti-abortion, but Elder also tells Ting, "I'm not going to change the minimum wage. I'm not trying to overturn Roe v. Wade; I don't even have the power to control abortion as governor. I've been in Kern County these past few days and no one has asked about the minimum wage or these other issues the media and Newsom are talking about."

And with that, Elder smartly pivots to what people in California actually are talking about: crime, homelessness, and housing issues. Ting pushes Elder on what he could actually do as a Republican governor given that the Democrats will maintain a supermajority in the legislature, meaning they could probably pass whatever they want to over his objections.

Elder says he'd issue executive orders declaring a crisis in housing and water, which he believes will make it easier for developers to build housing without getting thwarted by the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), responsible for an oppressive regulatory system that greatly drives up the price—and often simply prevents—much development in the state.

He blames Newsom for crime levels going up in California for releasing felons from jails due to the pandemic and pretty much accepts the police narrative that the rise in crime is due to "passive policing" or the "Ferguson effect" where police are reluctant to intervene because they fear criticism. He says, "as governor, I'd use the bully pulpit to change the narrative around policing."

Ting actually points out to Elder that his tough-on-crime position seems to be at odds with how libertarians approach policing. He asks Elder if he has any criminal justice positions that align with libertarians or progressives, and Elder responds by suggesting that most people don't agree with those positions on crime anyway, and the only reason San Francisco District Attorney Chesa Boudin and Los Angeles District Attorney George Gascon won their elections were due to financial support from megadonor George Soros. In reality, San Francisco's Libertarian Party endorsed Boudin (and Ting further notes that Boudin didn't get any Soros money).

Elder dismissively says, "If you're a young black man, the best thing to do in encounters with the police is to cooperate. But if they're taught the police will do something to them and cause harm, how can we expect them to cooperate? Most of the police killings could have been avoided if people had complied."

Reason has exhaustively documented any number of cases where people who are compliant with police are nevertheless brought to harm. It's a flippant, oblivious response that certain people continue to believe, even as more and more video evidence shows the reality of how many police actually behave.

But while Elder isn't on board with criminal justice reforms, it is worth observing that he is genuinely engaging in the issues that are a focal point of discussion in many areas of California. The Democratic response—that Republicans are engaged in a "power grab" in Sacramento—just seems to present itself that Democratic control of the government, not actual citizen needs, is what is at stake in the September 14 recall race. The rallying cry around Newsom is essentially just listing a bunch of progressive goals as though they are somehow dependent on Newsom being governor.

"It's about immigration. It's about our health care policies. It's about our criminal justice reform," Newsom told San Francisco's KQED in March. "It's about the diversity of the state. It's about our clean air, clean water programs, meeting our environmental strategies."

But … is it about all of those things? Or is this recall election about a large group of Californians growing increasingly frustrated with a party that doesn't seem to care about the negative effects many regulatory policies have been having on the state's residents? The reason Newsom's French Laundry incident, where he defied his own lockdown orders in order to attend a birthday dinner with lobbyists, keeps being brought up is because it aptly demonstrates the massive disconnect between the party and the people of the state it represents. It doesn't just show that Newsom is above the rules—it also shows that Newsom simply doesn't have to deal with some of the negative and frustrating consequences of California's rules that others in the state have to struggle with.

I noted earlier in August that the anti-recall ads starring Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) tell Democratic voters that they should simply vote against the recall and completely leaves out that Democrats who oppose the recall can nevertheless choose a successor should Newsom be removed. If the recall succeeds and Democrats followed Warren's advice, they'll have lost the chance to select who will replace Newsom. It's an example of Democratic leaders emphasizing their own political survival above properly educating their own voters.

Some of Elder's more conservative positions might be objectionable to some libertarian voters. The L.P. has endorsed Riverside County Supervisor Jeff Hewitt, a Libertarian, who is also on the ballot.

But at least Elder's responses are based on what he is actually hearing from citizens in California and not just about maintaining a particular party's control over the government. He's actually honest about how some of his conservative positions are going to end up irrelevant to the role of being governor, and he knows that what voters want is for particular, chronic issues to be handled.

We'll see what happens if Democrats continue to present the recall as a "power grab" when polls show half of voters supporting it.

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  1. If/when Elder wins the election, don’t expect headlines in the left wing media proclaiming “Californians elect first black Governor”
    or “Californians elect first libertarian Governor”.

    Instead, they’ll just continue attacking Elder as a Trump supporter.

    1. I think the real question is, when Newsom “wins” the election, will there be an article from the corporate press about how the recall election was “fortified” to “ensure the proper outcome”?

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    2. The way that Elder described how he’d “tackle homelessness on his first day in office” is, he said, that he’d “allow the state to forcibly move people inside”.

      “People would be forced to get off the street,” he said.

      Force seems to be somewhat less than a “small-l” libertarian approach.

      https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/08/03/recall-election-conservative-radio-host-larry-elder-on-gavin-newsom-covid-and-whether-trump-lost-in-2020/

      1. Libertarians of both the big and small L variety understand that government does have a role in resolving commons issues. Homeless people monopolizing the use of public resources is a commons issue.

        Using force may or may not be a good idea in this specific situation, but there’s nothing inherently un-libertarian by saying you’re not allowed to claim a bunch of public space for your own private use.

        1. The national Libertarian platform committee absolutely demands that the homeless grab a bunch of public space for their own use, provided they are also aliens without visas.

          1. Hank, did your meds run out?

            1. I believe Frank is right. Why not you knucklehead

        2. It’s not necessarily against libertarian tenets to claim public space for private use, even without any sort of permission. Some libertarians think that there shouldn’t be any rules prohibiting setting up a food cart or lemonade stand in public spaces.

          But the homeless aren’t necessarily running a business, and are more icky than a kid running a lemonade stand, so, you’re right, libertarians would be be more likely to discriminate against the icky homeless using public spaces than other groups.

          1. Not the best analogy since at least in my experience, a kid running a lemonade stand doesn’t deprive others’ enjoyment of public space nearly as much as a homeless encampment surrounded by literal human shit.

            That’s the crux of regulating the commons; you only get to do it when someone is depriving someone else of their rights. A kid running a lemonade stand is far less likely to do that than a homeless person setting up a tent. Obviously it isn’t true in 100% of cases, but in general one of these groups shits on the sidewalk, commits property crime and gets belligerent with random passer-bys on a regular basis and it’s not the 8 year old with a bag of lemons. Perhaps that has something to do with the “discrimination” you’re on about.

            1. If you’re comfortable describing and categorizing some subset of human beings as “shit”, then when does it really ever matter how they are treated?

              1. He never called anyone shit he described a homeless encampment as surrounded by literal human feces, you fucking buffoon.

                1. Why are stupid people like Doug always so smug and smarmy with their stupidity?

                  1. The arrogance of ignorance.

              2. You realize that homeless people have the same bodily functions as the rest of us, right? And if they’re living in a tent in front of your house or businesses, what do you suppose happens with their shit?

                Are you aware of all the health issues humans had before modern plumbing?

                1. Ya mean like cholera?

              3. If you actually believe that’s what he said, you are too ignorant to be permitted to discuss this issue.

                1. One solution to homelessness is manorialism.

                  https://www.britannica.com/topic/manorialism

                  Just relocate the homeless to landed estates.

              4. “If you’re comfortable describing and categorizing some subset of human beings as “shit”, then when does it really ever matter how they are treated?”

                Care to explain what you intendeded to explain, steaming pile of lefty shit?

            2. Set up a few hundred acres 50 miles outside of town. Food. Health care etc…. If they leave just keep sending them back

          2. How many homeless people stay with you, Doug?

            1. I think it’s clear Doug hasn’t had to experience any of the effects of homelessness personally.

          3. You’re right they’re very icky, and that makes a difference, and should. Lesson: don’t be icky.

          4. How about if someone opened a hot dog stand directly in your shop’s doorway? It’s one thing if they’re not in the way but many times they are direct impediments to using your home or business and often the problem grows so large with the free assistance that they take over and destroy the public spaces.

    3. Note to foreign readers. The photograph reads Party preference: Republican! What part of that don’t cross-dressing Republican infiltrators here understand? All three words.

      1. Note to anyone watching: Hank has ‘issues’

        1. He’s a total weirdo.

  2. “Can Democrats stop acting as if all the ______ critics are Trump-loving insurrectionists?”

    No, and FTFY.

    1. That’s like asking McDonald’s to stop ‘lovin’ it’, or Apple not to “Think Different”. Calling everyone else racists and insurrectionists is their slogan. It’s part of the brand.

      1. Couldn’t find the screw emoji?

  3. “Can Democrats stop acting as if all the… critics are Trump-loving insurrectionists?”

    Can you, you FBI dick sucking pussy?

  4. “Can Democrats stop acting as if all the… critics are Trump-loving insurrectionists?”

    Depends: do they have the capacity for empathy?

  5. Has Elder changed some of his views over time? I thought he supported legal abortion.

    1. What’s an illegal abortion?

  6. “It’s a flippant, oblivious response that certain people continue to believe, even as more and more video evidence shows the reality of how many police actually behave.”

    Query the First: Which Reason / Libertartian supported Criminal Reforms have lead to a net decrease in crime, damage and/or injury?

    Query the Second: Which Progressive supported Criminal Reforms have lead to a net decrease in crime, damage and/or injury?

    1. Nah, he’s right. If a bit of video evidence exists then you’re perfectly justified in tarring everyone with guilt by association no matter how tenuous.

      I’ll be using the marxist BLM riots from summer 2020 as a baseline for all Democrats, libertarians and journalists from now on. So theft, arson, assault and murder are the assumed baseline behaviors with copious lies and gaslighting to obscure the truth. Same thing different target.

    2. But while Elder isn’t on board with criminal justice reforms…

      Maybe California has bigger issues to resolve than this website’s “empty the prisons” sacred cow. And I’ll be looking forward to the upcoming Reason staff’s whitesplaining why Larry Elder just doesn’t understand the issues that blacks face in the criminal justice system.

  7. Can Democrats stop acting as if all the governor’s critics are Trump-loving insurrectionists?

    Finally, we’re beginning to understand the value of Trump to the left.

  8. does not believe a woman has a right to choose

    Neither does Gavin Newsom.

    Oh, are we restricting this to abortion? I didn’t realize. Sorry, carry on.

    1. Women’s rights?! In a Kleptocracy knife fight?!

      1. Fuck off weirdo. We know how much you love to see infants slaughtered.

  9. Gavin Newsom Uses His White Privilege to Assault Black Community Leader

    Fixed that for you, bigots.

    1. According to the Rules of Social Justice, this is a correct assessment. With one caveat, Larry Elder’s “lived experience” is “not valid” because he’s guilty of internalized racism and “System Preserving Epistemic Pushback” as the Critical Race Theorists say.

      1. Is this what White Adjacent means? Or is that only for Asians when you learn that they’re not going to vote for you?

        1. “Politically white” is what they’ve come up with

          1. Pretty sure a lot of them still go with Uncle Tom.

    2. Think the LA Times will run that headline?

  10. > It’s a flippant, oblivious response that certain people continue to believe, even as more and more video evidence shows the reality of how many police actually behave.

    Seriously? The plural of Anecdote is not Data.

    Yes, there are bad cops. But is Reason saying that means people shouldn’t comply, period? The data themselves show that a very high percentage of people harmed by police were usually armed, often aggressive, and most often non-compliant.

    Picking and choosing the bad cases to “refute” someone’s perspective on this is as bad as going out on the Twitter and finding one or two random people with the same view as yours and reporting it as though “People are angry at…” whatever.

    Police need to reform. But Hands Up Don’t Shoot was a lie, that was a very aggressive, very large man who attacked the cop. Floyd was hopped up on goofballs and heavily resisting. The dude shot in the front of his truck with the kids in the back had assaults in his record, police were called for him being aggressive, and he was completely ignoring them and reaching for a weapon in the truck. See what you get when you pick your data?

    I don’t know a damned thing about Larry Elder. But community relations with police have to be fixed on BOTH sides of the equation. Cops shouldn’t — I dunno, do no knock swat raids. There are a bunch of things where they escalate instead of deescalate. But when you run at the cops with a knife or fight them when they’re doing their job you are also escalating instead of deescelating. That shit invites the worst to happen.

    1. “Sufficient” and “necessary” are not the same.

    2. Cops do whatever politicians order them to do, and they understand their orders include killing as many people as it takes to see their orders are followed. Bad laws make bad cops. Hard cases make good libertarian candidate talking points in the struggle for spoiler votes with which to repeal the bad laws. Is clarity oversimplification?

      1. I’ll bet you sit and babble your word salad to yourself. Probably laughing to yourself at what you consider clever phrasing. While everyone around you probably is incredibly uncomfortable and desperate to get away from you.

    3. “The dude shot in the front of his truck with the kids in the back had assaults in his record, police were called for him being aggressive, and he was completely ignoring them and reaching for a weapon in the truck.”

      It wasn’t his truck. The owner of the truck was the kids’ mother who be had domestically abused and he had a court order to stay away from. Even assuming those were his kids (I have not seen anything definitive on this), it seems incredibly unlikely that the courts would have granted him any custody or even unsupervised visitation given that he is considered to be too violent to be allowed near their mother. If he had been allowed to leave the scene, he would have added grand theft auto and kidnapping to his rap sheet.

      It boggles my mind that BLM consistently rallies around dirt bags. Why don’t they focus on the decent folks who get shot by police?

      1. “It boggles my mind that BLM consistently rallies around dirt bags. Why don’t they focus on the decent folks who get shot by police?”

        Because it’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

        Where’s the power in getting us to rally around innocent people? Forcing us to rally around dirtbags; now *that’s* power.

    4. Negros don’t think they have to comply. They think they’re tough.

  11. “Can Democrats stop acting as if all the governor’s critics are Trump-loving insurrectionists?”

    Considering that they can’t stop acting as if anyone who doesn’t agree with them 100% on everything is a Trump-loving insurrectionist, probably not. When they think that a few hundred people invading the Capital for a few hours could overthrow the government, their acquaintance with reality (and understanding of how the government works) is slight, to say the least.

    1. Can people whose foundational worldview (critical theory) declares that messenger-shooting is the be-all and end-all of message-evaluation be expected to not shoot messengers?

      What a silly question.

  12. “San Francisco’s Libertarian Party endorsed Boudin ”

    I’m not sure where to start with this one. Boudin’s a far left SJW whose parents were Weather Underground. What the hell is a San Francisco Libertarian?

    1. Sevo. And it’s a lonely job.

    2. A San Francisco Libertarian before Nixon was a normal libertarian. After Nixon… pugnacious communist anarchist Weatherman.

      1. Yep, it’s Nixon’s fault dirty hippie trash became dirty hippie terrorist trash. You figure it out.

    3. Given the stances of Reason writers I wouldn’t doubt the SF Libertarian party supported a marxist out to destroy western civilization.

    4. If the Libertarian Party supported Chesa Boudin, that is sufficient for me to stop supporting the Libertarian Party forevermore

  13. A Republican Conservative “Libertarian” is someone who wants hippies, and especially blacks and latinos, shot for holding hemp seeds, supports the Manifesto income tax, thinks cops are there to bully pregnant girls, wants prayer mandatory in gubmint schools, hates hate speech–and speech generally if not from the pulpit–and wants Uncle Sam to police the world. Welcome to the Ron Paul infiltration and smear-by-association strategy.

    1. Speaking of “smear-by-association”, Ron Paul believes in exactly none of those things you mentioned.

    2. What is the “manifesto income tax?” I can just respectfully disagree with you on many of the other points, but I don’t understand that one at all.

    3. Hank’s like Sqrlsy and Hihn’s cantankerous grandpa.

      1. Who takes lots of drugs.

    4. Fuck off weirdo. You’re becoming the new Hihn.

  14. My my friend gets his ballot information, and expresses surprise that it’s 84 pages when all he needs to do is vote “no”. I ask him about the other measure, the one that elects a new governor. He knew nothing about it, because he never even opened his ballot information.

    The Democrat strategy of pretending the replacement election doesn’t exist is going to bite them on the ass hard.

    Of half a dozen Democrats actually running, none are known. They are all third tier candidates with literally no party support. Meanwhile the Republicans have a Black man, a Gay man, and a Trans women in the top five spots. The message that htis is not the party of your granddad is clear.

    Hell, even the Libertarian candidate (only one, because the LP managed to get their act together) is outpolling the Democrats.

    This is literally the same mistake the Democrats made in the last recall, where Ahnold won because no Democrat runner got any party support.

    But to Democrats it’s far more important to defend Newsom than to get another Democrat in the race. It’s fucking nuts.

  15. Newsom’s support for surviving the recall peaked at 48% in the first polls (he needs 50+% to stay in office) and has been falling steadily since then.

    The Elizabeth Warren ads seem to be hurting his chances, as expected. Maybe Biden is trying to take out possible Dem rivals in 2024. He already gave Harris the border crisis to torpedo her chances.

    1. Biden does not know where or who he is let alone what is happening in California.

  16. I don’t agree with Larry Elder on everything. But he would be a hell of an improvement for CA and amusing to see the reaction from the left.

    1. My girlfriend is from LA, and I’m praying that Larry Elder wins just to hear about her family losing their collective minds.

      1. That is exactly what I’m here for.

    2. Oh yeah love to see Marxist media piss all over themselves

  17. Hot take:

    The link from this paragraph:

    “Reason has exhaustively documented any number of cases where people who are compliant with police are nevertheless brought to harm. It’s a flippant, oblivious response that certain people continue to believe, even as more and more video evidence shows the reality of how many police actually behave.”

    Is hardly “exhaustive.” Following that link I counted (being generous) 19 unique incidents in 2021 (i.e., there were many articles regarding Derek Chauvin, but that all counts as “1” incident). Except not all 19 incidents even occurred this calendar year (such as that for Derek Chauvin – they were just written about this year).

    Given that a quick Google search can tell you there are literally millions of civilian encounters with police per year (how can there not be, with a population of 330 million and close to 20,000 police officers), a tiny list of perhaps 19 incidents in a year hardly shows a reality that “many” police use force against compliant individuals.

    Show data, not anecdotes to back up your claim, Mr. Shackford, then you can convince me Larry Elder is wrong on this point.

    1. Floyd in no way complied with Chauvin. Resisted just sitting in the vehicle for nearly 20 minutes

  18. So the Libertarian establishment gets to decide who can call himself a libertarian? Sounds un-liberty to me.

  19. NEWSOM HAS A MAN-BABY MELT DOWN. Then regurgitates a bunch of stats which completely ignore the questions asked.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/cracking-angry-newsom-melts-recall-rage-rant-slams-desk-fist-video/
    (scroll down for the video)

  20. Gavin Newsom takes aim, misses the target, and ends up shooting himself in the foot again. It’s almost – deliberate.

  21. Dems complain about a “power grab” because being in charge is their number one issue.

  22. While I’ve come to expect the throwaway sentence “Also running is Libertarian [insert name here]” in any article about any electoral contest, it’s galling to see an ostensibly libertarian publication spend so much time on a Republican instead of the LP-endorsed candidate in the race.

    1. Bullshit.
      I don’t care if the candidate calls him/herself a ‘Purple-Party’ candidate so long as we get results, and the L party has shown that it cannot deliver anything beyond somewhat heartening claims sometimes.
      I didn’t vote for Trump, but he got more ‘libertarian’ stuff done than the L-party has accomplished in its entire existence.
      Look at the candidate’s focus; vote L-focus, not L-Party.

  23. “…In an interview with the Sacramento Bee, Elder actually made it clear that he believes President Joe Biden won the election, but then went on to complain about how Hillary Clinton did the exact same thing when she lost to Trump in 2016—complain inaccurately about the election being stolen…”

    Newsom is a scumbag, grease-ball liar? Really????

  24. Yeah what Ferguson effect? It’s not like crime massively spiked in Ferguson after the Michael Brown riots and delegitimization of the police, or in Baltimore after Freddie Gray, or Minneapolis after George Floyd. There’s no evidence I tell you!

  25. Why do they hate Trump so much?
    Trump was the biggest threat to their Nazi-Insurrection (def; National Socialism).

    What do lefties do when caught with their pants down? PROJECT!

    1. Trump was Hitler, do you not read the Reason? It’s a totally libertarian site.

      1. Right; Trump lobbied for National Socialism.
        Put down your crack pipe already.

  26. You see, Elder got all uppity. And we can’t be letting these coloreds get all uppity. That Martin Luther King Jr. got all uppity and you see what happened? That Ben Carson got all uppity and you see what happened? He got exiled from Johns Hopkins, lost his mind and started seeing aliens and bigfoot.

    We must protect Elder from himself, for his own good. /democrats

    1. Signed…The white trustifarian Reason staffers

  27. Larry Elder isn’t perfectly aligned with my beliefs, however no politician, journalist, talk radio host, plumber, etc. really is perfectly aligned. We live in an imperfect world and we must all comprise weighing the pro’s and con’s of nearly every aspect of life.

    The reality is that Gavin Newsom is much, much less desirable in almost every aspect than Larry Elder. On a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being bad and 10 being good, Gavin Newsom is a 3 and Larry Elder is an 8. I would welcome Larry Elder as the new governor of california and would welcome the expulsion of Gavin Newsom from the governorship.

    Andrew Cuomo has resigned from office and now it’s time for Gavin Newsom to follow. Gretchen Whitmer should also be expelled as well as many others. We as citizens need to hold public officials accountable. These corrupt authoritarian minded governors should serve as an example to future public officials that they server at the pleasure of their voters.

    Public officials are our servants, not our rulers and they need to be reminded often.

    1. Hair is the only category where Newsom surpasses Elder. In every category that matters, Elder is the clear winner by a large margin.

  28. Elder dismissively says, “If you’re a young black man, the best thing to do in encounters with the police is to cooperate. But if they’re taught the police will do something to them and cause harm, how can we expect them to cooperate? Most of the police killings could have been avoided if people had complied.”

    The fact that many Reason has documented cases where the police have done horrible things to people doing their utmost to fully cooperate doesn’t make this statement untrue. While it’s totally inexcusable when police overstep their authority and behave like savages and I have little sympathy for the cop who breaks down a door unannounced at 2am and is shocked by being greeted with a bullet, that doesn’t apply to ~100% of interactions between police and young black men. If you’re aware of the fact that you’re dealing with the cops then you should cooperate to the extent that you are legally required to (and feel empowered to not cooperate to the extent that you are not legally required to). Maybe it turns out that the cops beat you up for no reason while you’re just standing there/lying on the ground and if that happens you should sue the shit out of them, but fighting them isn’t going to improve your situation or help you escape that fate.

    It feels righteous to fight back against people you believe are going to do you wrong, but all you do is justify them doing you wrong and turns your prediction into a reality.

  29. I will vote gor ANYBODY to replace newsomlini. Maybe even someone else from the party that fought for slavery ar some dude with a serious identity crisis. Anyone but him.

  30. CA Democrats have controlled the legislature and bureaucracy for over four decades. They are stone cold ideologues an all of the problems, pain and puss we experience today are the *direct* result of their misguided policies. Newsom is a deceiver and has no leadership or administrative talent. He is all style, no substance. As they say in Texas, that cowboy has a big hat and a bright smile but no ranch or cattle!

  31. It’s nice to see an initiative like the Recall (which was created by liberals) being used to oust a liberal.
    When I was in grade school in CA, the history lessons we learned painted the Progressive era of the early 1900’s as something really great.

  32. Two thoughts:

    I’m dismayed that opposing the minimum wage is seen as radical.

    I’m troubled that politicians now openly say they’ll just use executive order to get what they want.

  33. “Can Democrats stop acting as if all the governor’s critics are Trump-loving insurrectionists?”

    Seems pretty reasonable when they proudly show their pictures next to Trump-loving terrorist insurrectionists: https://news.yahoo.com/california-gop-gubernatorial-front-runner-201558274.html

  34. Finally, someone (Elder) is quoting the embarrassing humiliating reading and math stats in California. He’s running on pro school choice/charter. Brave to take on thelefty teachers unions in California, the “reform” commie DAs and the homeless industrial complex.

    1. Everything the CTA and LAUSD do is “for the children” — not!

  35. I’ve been listening to Elder since he was a mainstay at KABC. There’s certainly a touch of Trump in him, in that he will respond aggressively to personal attacks. He’s just not as juvenile.

    That’s understandable, given that he’s often called an Oreo or Uncle Tom for merely espousing libertarian to conservative views. He leans “conservatrian”, which basically means a libertarian who’s a border hawk. Most casual libertarians would have no issues voting for him.

  36. Can Democrats stop acting as if all the governor’s critics are Trump-loving insurrectionists?
    No Scott they can’t, because that is all they have. No good policies. No politicians that aren’t corrupt. No new ideas that aren’t about creating a left-wing socialist dictatorship. Certainly no restraint in taxing and spending (something libertarian Reason used to care about). Best thing for the Democrats is to keep the focus on lies about Trump.

  37. I can’t believe Reason or any Libertarian (small or large L) complaining about a potential Larry Elder governorship. Compared to Newsom? Or even Brown? Are you kidding me?

    1. “I can’t believe Reason or any Libertarian (small or large L) complaining about a potential Larry Elder governorship. Compared to Newsom? Or even Brown? Are you kidding me?”

      Hey, being against Emmanuel Goldstein, er, I mean Donald Trump, is hard work …

  38. Wasn’t really aware of Elder before he decided to run against Newsome, but from what I’ve seen he’s obviously a superior candidate to any lefturd.

    -jcr

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  40. You got my vote Larry

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