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Cuomo and Trump: Who Can Tell the Difference?

Two rotten politicians demonstrate the sickness of America’s political culture.

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An overtly corrupt elected official with a propensity for pawing women, a legion of fans who habitually excuse his excesses, and a face that can be taken as a symbol of his political tribe—you know who I'm talking about, right? Or maybe you don't. This is politics here, and sociopaths performing to the adoration of the multitudes seem to go with the territory. To be honest, I could be referring to either New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo or former President Donald Trump, two despicable people who represent their respective parties as well as deep rot in this country.

That Cuomo and Trump could be mistaken for one another without some clarification is no surprise; both emerged from the rotten swamp of New York politics and business, which has long had a well-deserved reputation for corruption. It's amusingly summarized in the 1986 film Back to School, in which Rodney Dangerfield's character offers a naive professor a riff on how business is done in the real world.

"First of all, you're gonna have to grease the local politicians for the sudden zoning problems that always come up," Dangerfield starts off, before monologuing along similar lines about paying off the unions, building inspectors, and organized crime.

That's just a fictionalized take on the world in which Trump's father, "Fred Trump, made millions building apartments in Brooklyn and Queens," as described in 2015 by Michael Barone. "It didn't hurt, when it came to land assembly and public subsidies, that he was a key supporter of Brooklyn machine Democrats and a close friend and ally of Abraham Beame, city comptroller in 1964 and later mayor."

Later, Donald himself boasted that he could buy a U.S. senator for $200,000 and established a long history of campaign donations, loans, and payoffs to politicians from whom he sought and received favors. He was blunt about what he expected in return.

"As a businessman and a very substantial donor to very important people, when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do," Trump told The Wall Street Journal in 2015.

Cuomo is a little different—instead of buying politicians, he's a politician who gets bought. 

"Joseph Percoco, a former top aide and confidant to Gov. Andrew Cuomo, was convicted…of three felonies after taking more than $300,000 from companies with business before the state," The Journal News reported in 2018. "Percoco, of South Salem, Westchester County, spent more than two decades as one of Cuomo's closest friends and workers, serving as campaign manager for Cuomo's two successful gubernatorial runs and his enforcer as an aide during much of his time in office."

Percoco could be expected to have some tales to tell about the governor, but Cuomo and company continue to quietly funnel money to him to support his family and pay well over $1 million in legal fees.

Even in New York, such behavior draws some attention. Trump testified about his political expenditures and what he expected to receive in return before the State Commission on Government Integrity back in 1988. In 2014, Cuomo shut down a corruption investigation (the Moreland Commission) when it strayed too close to his political allies.

But that's not what seems poised to finally bring down Cuomo. Instead, his Achilles heel may prove to be his penchant for treating women as playthings.

"The investigation found that Governor Cuomo's sexual harassment of multiple women and his and the Executive Chamber's retaliation against a former employee for coming forward with her claims of sexual harassment violated multiple state and federal laws," New York Attorney General Letitia James announced last week.

In this, Cuomo shares his habits with Trump, who has long been dogged by allegations of predatory sexual behavior towards women; last year, ABC News tallied 18 women who "have accused Donald Trump of varying inappropriate behavior, including allegations of sexual harassment or sexual assault." It's not conduct he's shy about, either.

"Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything," Trump infamously boasted in comments caught on camera in 2005 about what he could get away with as a celebrity.

If sexual harassment allegations are what finally torpedo Cuomo, it's a testimony to how reality-resistant political popularity can be. Even after years of corruption scandals and a simmering uproar over his order forcing COVID-19 patients into nursing homes to infect other sick and elderly residents, the governor retained rock-star popularity. Celebrity fans of the politician labeled themselves "Cuomosexuals" and a cautionary piece in the Columbia Journalism Review urged journalists covering the "luv guv" to be more skeptical. The public embraced the cult of personality, with a majority of New York's voters, and three-quarters of Democrats, continuing to support Cuomo as recently as March.

Trump also retains vast popularity with his base despite his glaring flaws, still drawing crowds at rallies around the country. As many as 66 percent of Republicans want him to seek a return to the White House in 2024

In Cuomo's case, at least, the shine appears to be off the rotten apple. Not only are New York lawmakers finally pursuing impeachment charges against the creature who has long dominated state politics, but voters seem done with him, too.

"Voters in New York think 70—25 percent that Andrew Cuomo should resign as governor," a Quinnipiac poll reported last week, including majority support even among Democrats. Voters also favor impeaching and prosecuting him.

How the mighty Cuomo has fallen, from an unhealthy cult of personality just months ago to a belatedly disillusioned public eager to toss him aside after one scandal too many. It's an overdue shift in attitude toward skepticism and contempt that should be applied to a lot more political figures, including Trump. These aren't just flawed figures; they're corrupt individuals who abuse power and use people around them for amusement and personal enrichment.

But it shouldn't have taken so long for reality to penetrate the public's consciousness. That only now dents are appearing in Cuomo's popular support, and that Trump's position remains secure with such a large part of the population, is evidence not just of these political players' flaws, but of the deep rot that lies at the heart of American political culture.

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  1. Oh, Mr. Tuccille. Now you’ve done it. You’ve triggered the cons by purporting to draw a comparison between Cuomo and Trump. Everyone knows that there is no comparison. Cuomo is evil. Cuomo is Hitler. Cuomo is Satan. Cuomo is Lex Luthor. Cuomo strangles babies with his bare hands. And of course Cuomo is TEAM BLUE, which means he favors gulags and death camps. Trump, on the other hand, is just misunderstood. Why, the worst thing he has ever done ever is write some mean tweets. All of the other things that he is accused of is fake news reported by lying media. Like the “grabbing women by the pussy”. Or the corrupt use of eminent domain. Or his narcissistic bigoted demagoguery. Or how he treats wives like playthings. It is fake news. Everyone knows Trump is a God-fearing Christian man who has been happily married to Melania for 87 years and is an honest moral businessman, a paragon of the real estate community, a superb leader that all kids can look up to with pride, with not a hateful molecule in his heart. How dare the liberal media besmirch such an outstanding citizen and patriot. And because he is TEAM RED, whatever sins he may have committed in the past, should be overlooked and excused because he was doing it all for the greater good of America. God Bless America and God Bless Trump!

    1. LOL

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    2. I’m not a Trump fan. I’m an old fart who thought–and still thinks–it was thoroughly weird for someone like that to be President.

      But constantly dragging Trump’s name out every time a Democrat steps on his dick is tiresome and pointless.

      1. Yep. “And don’t even get me started about Franklin Pierce!”

      2. Well said. I’ll add that we knew exactly who Trump was and is. Now Cuomo? Not so much. At least If you believe, as I’m sure he does, his press

      3. Eh, they are both scum. Send them to jail, be done with it. Let them be an example to the rest of the scum yet to be prosecuted and under investigation.

        1. Leftists are criminal viruses

      4. Is it pointless when Trump is still holding rallies and fundraising? He is obviously setting himself to run again in 2024.

        1. gonna run to your safeplace when he gets elected for the third time…..

        2. It’s going to be pretty bad for you. Perhaps you should just end it all now?

        3. In regards to Cuomo’s crimes, yes it’s completely pointless.

    3. The girls all hate Tuccille already. This won’t change anything.

      1. The girls are trying to keep their bodily fluids CLEAN, dammit!!!

        https://www.salon.com/2021/08/09/vaccine-paranoia-why-right-wingers-are-worried-about-their-precious-bodily-fluids/
        Vaccine paranoia: Why right-wingers are worried about their “precious bodily fluids”
        Millions of Americans believe there are microchips in the vaccines. Jason Colavito says these delusions run deep

        “Roughly 30 percent of Republicans say they believe it is “definitely” or “probably” true that the government has put microchips in the COVID-19 vaccines.”

        1. Nobody thinks that.

          1. Tell the people that think that, that they don’t think that! Maybe YOU can persuade them, about what they do and do not think!!

            https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/07/15/why-wont-americans-get-vaccinated-poll-data

            One in five Americans believes the US government is using the COVID-19 vaccine to microchip the population

            1. Nobody thinks that.

              1. But somebody has an opinion that some people think that. And that’s good enough as long as the attack is on the right political party.

              2. Does anyone doubt anymore that Sqrlsy is just the insane version of Buttplug and chemleft?

                1. Somebody had to fill the Hihn gap.

                  1. I just wish they would do it like Hihn and drop dead. Which was the one thing Hihn ever did right.

                    1. Hihn was a national treasure.

                    2. Do we know for sure that he passed away?

                    3. Hihn link was posted by Zeb (thanks, Zeb!)…

                      Hihn is deceased!
                      https://obits.cleveland.com/obituaries/cleveland/obituary.aspx?n=michael-j-hihn&pid=196606666&fhid=2644

                      RIP Hihn! In honor of Hihn… “Right minus Left = Zero”!

                    4. He’s NOT dead… He’s sleeping!

                      (Now don’t ruffle his feathers!)

                    5. There is an obituary, and the website with his enemies list went offline within about a month of his death.

              3. I think the vaccine mandate is for the vaccine passport.

                I think the vaccine passport is to condition us for the Social Credit Score, and to make us COMPLY above all else. I think it is the necessary first step in implementing, among other things, the Green New Deal and The Great Reset.

                I dont think microchips are in my body. I do think the government, media, and institutions are full of fascist dictator-wannabees.

                1. All of this is to condition us for the Mark of the Beast, which will implemented with death for those who refuse.

            2. No, the article does NOT say anything even remotely like that.

              “People who won’t get vaccinated are worried about side effects, microchips and political motivations… but not COVID-19”

              That’s called “correlation”, not “causation”.

              Dumbschiff.

          2. No but if some pollster asked me, I’d definitely choose that one.

            1. is pretty mandatory.

            2. Oh, great! Feedback loop runs away on itself, and I HELPED it to do so!

              In order for me to be safe from the Wrath of The Lord Trump, after His Glorious return, I have to believe, not only in The Stolen Election, now, but ALSO, in the idea that only The Lord Trump can SAVE me from the microchips! One MUST Believe All Things that The Tribe Believes, or I will be… CAST OUT! Conform, or be cast out!

              (Answer the poll questions CORRECTLY, for Your Tribe, now, or be CAST OUT!)

              The Trump catechism grows and grows!

              https://www.salon.com/2021/08/08/a-terrifying-new-theory-fake-news-and-conspiracy-theories-as-an-evolutionary-strategy/
              A terrifying new theory: Fake news and conspiracy theories as an evolutionary strategy
              Social scientist Michael Bang Petersen on why people believe outrageous lies — as a tool in violent group conflict

              Are we not men? We are de-evolving!

              1. exactly what they want you to believe.

              2. All these Salon quotes from Sqrlsy show what end of the pool he’s been playing in, and explains all the far-left conspiracy theories he’s pushing.

                1. Just wait until he starts arguing that pedophiles aren’t that bad, which Salon has been pimping off and on for over a decade.

                  1. Citation please!

                    In OTHER news about pimping lies in order to justify and provoke violence in favor of YOUR tribe, and against the BAD tribe(s)…

                    Another take on the same thing…

                    https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/566982-terrifying-new-study-says-our-conspiracy-theory-epidemic

                    In other news today, many NON-libertarians CONSTANTLY try to capture libertarians (individual-freedom-lovers) in order to torture them, sacrifice them, and drink their blood, and the blood of their children! Man the barricades!

                    1. You offer links to both Salon and The Hill yet expect to be taken seriously? Oy vey.

                2. No danger of floating turds in sqrlsy’s pool.

                  1. Fats of Fury is fasting… EXCEPT when it sees turds in the pool, the punch bowl, OR in the bowels of a rotting, maggot-infested dead skunk! In ANY of these cases, do NOT get in the way of Fats of Fury!

          3. LOL. Sarcasmic is playing with fire/socks again.

          4. Nobody sane does, but there is no explaining the rationale of the cult.

        2. spastic gets flagged.

        3. “Roughly 30 percent of Republicans say they believe it is “definitely” or “probably” true that the government has put microchips in the COVID-19 vaccines.”

          Roughly 99 percent of Democrats and progressives are dumb enough to believe in the results of YouGov “polls”. Really, it’s staggering.

          1. From The Great Google, Which Knows All:

            How does YouGov poll?
            Methodology. YouGov specialises in market research and opinion polling through online methods. The company’s methodology involves obtaining responses from an invited group of Internet users, and then weighting these responses in line with demographic information.

            So then obviously, the ONLY rational, data-driven, even SCIENTIFIC conclusion that right-wing wrong-nuts can conclude from this is ass follows:

            Such data can ONLY be relied upon, when it confirms our already-held, pre-conceived notions! Otherwise, it is all Marxist clap-trap!

            1. Can you provide info about how that “invited group of Internet users” is selected?

              How does YouGov determine and verify their demographics?

              Where is the evidence that YouGov is a neutral polling organization with no agenda of its own?

              How do you know respondents answer truthfully?

              1. Go ask YouGov!

                Do you believe in Antarctica? Have you ever personally SEEN Antarctica? How do you know that they’re not all LYING to you, about Antarctica?

                Also, does paranoia exist, if you don’t believe in it? Does paranoia come from within you, or is it imposed on you, by shadowy “others”?

                1. spaz flag X 2

                2. Go ask YouGov!

                  They aren’t providing any answers.

                  Do you believe in Antarctica? Have you ever personally SEEN Antarctica? How do you know that they’re not all LYING to you, about Antarctica?

                  Consistent and independent observations and reports by hundreds of thousands of observers with different objectives and motivations. Consistent and independent audiovisual recordings from the surface and from orbit from many different organizations.

                  Precisely what we don’t have for YouGov.

              2. I always lie on polls and surveys, especially on questions about race and ethnicity. I think I’m a black, hispanic, Pacific Islander now. But I’m not sure.

        4. I thought the vaccine contained a microchip.

          1. Next time I’ll read more than the first sentence before responding.

            1. Lol, the hell you will.

              1. Hey MammaryBahnFuhrer… How is Your new org coming along? Are You gaining many new converts and perverts to “Expert Christian Theologians for Identity Theft?” And where do we sign up for your newsletter?

                In https://reason.com/2021/03/21/why-we-still-shouldnt-censor-misinformation/#comment-8818090 Mamma fesses to her being an identity-thief and sock!
                chemjeff radical individualist
                March.21.2021 at 4:27 pm
                Uh oh, I think you left your sock on.
                Reply
                1. SQRLSY 0ne
                March.21.2021 at 5:06 pm
                Yeah, sigh.

                Hey MammaryBahnFuhrer, Expert Christian Theologian! Did Jesus appear to You in a vision, and tell You that ID theft is a GREAT, wonderful thing? Or ARE You Jesus, returned to us, maybe?

                1. asshole spaz gets flagged

            2. There’s headlines and there’s first sentences. What else is there?

          2. I didn’t get a microchip with my vaccine. I think I was ripped off.

        5. And at least 30% of black Americans believe that any federal medication is targeted against them.

          Do we really want a stupid contest?

          1. To be fair. The democrats, including Biden, spent most of 2020 telling them that the ‘Trump vaccine’ would be used to experiment on blacks. Just like Tuskegee. Then once the democrats installed Biden, started pretending that Biden created the vaccine and told everyone they have to get it.

            But anyone who is hesitant to get vaccinia a Trump cultist……..

            1. “ The democrats, including Biden, spent most of 2020 telling them that the ‘Trump vaccine’ would be used to experiment on blacks. Just like Tuskegee.”

              Can you verify this?

              I have never seen any such statement from democrats or republicans.

        6. B.S.! Nobody has said or thinks that! If that was the case, why would conservatives get the shot? Before you respond, it’s a lie that conservatives are not getting the vaccine. Whenever the left wants to blame someone, or push a false narrative, they blame or accuse others of exactly what they are doing!

        7. Colavito made his fame around debunking ancient astronaut stuff but he then showed a very flawed view of conservatives and libertarians tying them to “white supremacists” which he sees under every bed..hell UFO nuts are all racists. He is good around how ancient writings are misintrepreted by the “History Channel” but sees straight “white” men as racists and the cause of all the problems in the world and personally it seems. Weird given he is an Italian kid from Auburn NY.

          1. So… he’s actually a crazier conspiracy theorist than the idiots who want to give aliens credit for mankind’s achievements

      2. Never ceases to amaze me on these 2 points:

        You think you’re a victim.

        You can’t actually condemn Democratic actions in isolation.

        The second one is very telling because you seem quite content on condemning GOP actions in isolation. Weird you say you don’t lean left when your actions say otherwise.

        1. As usual you’re expecting me to defend things I never said nor did.

          It’s pretty obvious that these replies to my posts are just virtue signaling to the girls, because I’m not going to respond to your straw men.

          If you actually want a conversation then try replying to things I actually said instead of making stuff up.

          1. Never mind. Easier to just put you on mute than to read your stupid posts. It’s not like you’re capable of an honest conversation or anything. You’re just scoring points to impress the girls (all of whom are on mute).

            1. Of course we are. You can’t handle a real discussion. You’re intrinsically dishonest.

              1. So you’re one of the girls?

              2. If you think I’m dishonest then it’s because you can’t tell the difference between obvious hyperbole and seriousness, lack a sense of humor, believe the trolls, some combination thereof, or you’re a complete moron.

                1. You are predictable, and consistent. I don’t need to believe any third parties when I can simply observe your comments. And your comments aren’t that complicated.

        2. Why does it take no time to remove or punish conservative, but years, decades, or in some cases, never to remove a leftist democrat? So who’s corrupt again?

          1. He has a point. Seems like the Dems go to jail for transgressions a LOT faster than the GOP.

            1. Like Hillary has been in prison since 2016 for exposing national secrets to any hacker that was interested…

    4. Cuomo is Hitler.

      Well, he did send his soldiers in blue to drag the Jews out of the attic.

      I did invest in cattle cars when people said Trump was going to be shipping immigrants around in them. Have yet to see that investment pay off.

    5. Let’s see.

      Most pertinent to the current charges, one idiot talked about grabbing women and one idiot actually did grab women.

      1. One idiot talked about grabbing women with consent and one idiot actually did grab women without.

        1. Well, with what he assumed was consent.

          1. It was a hypothetical to expound upon women’s reaction to celebrity in general

        2. And the one who DID it has had the media running interference for him, month after month, while the one who said it could be done has had the media lying about what he said for years.

          But the biggest difference is being ignored. One sent hospital ships to the Covid patients of New York, while the other sent the Covid patients of New York to nursing homes.

    6. It is kind of odd to talk about a former politician who is not facing criminal charges from his staffers when the news of the week is about a sitting governor who is.

      1. Reason has to do the ‘both sides’ thing. I’ve a far left relative who does this. She’s incapable of just admitting that a democrat is bad.

        1. Absolutely!! Look at how CNN and the left dragged Trump and Kavanaugh across hot coals, but kept trying to defend Jeffery Tubin, Gov. Cuomo, and even accused Joe Biden!

          1. truth/facts be rayciss ………….. blm and all, doncha no?

      2. The former guy is facing charges from the legal system and the civil suits (which are the people accusing him of sexual misconduct). Cuomo just has accusers (which are likely valid) but no international fraud, sedition, inciting to riot, or income tax fraud charges pending (yet).

        1. Ok, cultist

        2. ok, fredo ……..

        3. Name one person charged with sedition, insurrection or treason? You are a liar parroting liberal Democratic lies. It was a riot, no different from the antifa/BLM riots at Federal building all over the US last year other than those people were released without charges. .

        4. Trump isn’t charged with international fraud, sedition, inciting riot or tax fraud.

          The first and last charges could come, not because Trump isn’t right to avoid taxation by any means necessary, but because his expressly political opponents are breaking out a fine toothed comb to try to find any numbers out of line that the IRS themselves couldn’t find after years of audits. The tax code is long and complex and, given enough time, anyone could be accused of breaking it in some miniscule way. So far, everyone beyond the IRS now looking at his taxes has said openly that they want to charge him with something related to tax fraud, they just don’t know exactly how yet. Maybe they will find something, but I’m doubtful whatever they find couldn’t be equally charged of dozens of their own donors.

          From what I’ve heard, the biggest tax fraud thing it seems they want to hit Trump for is “devaluing” his properties during property tax assessment time. Nevermind that property tax sounds like the most unlibertarian concept imaginable, devaluing your property is a commonly used real estate practice. Property is also not devalued based on nothing. It’s devalued through legally valid property appraisals and asserting those appraisals is an affirmative process to have your property value considered lower than what the state feels it should be.

          As for the idea of charging Trump with sedition and incitement, there’s truly no plausible case. No part of Trump’s speech on January 6 could be relied on as inculpatory evidence without other parts of that same speech constituting equally exculpatory evidence. Even the worst parts of Trump’s Jan 6 speech, where he talked about fighting like hell, are indistinguishable from the scores of politicians throughout history who have told supporters to “fight like hell” in fundraising emails and rallies. Those are all silly charges.

          My bet is, if anything brings Trump down, it will be sexual harassment claims. Interestingly, those claims have been put out for years now and none of them have materialized into any legally actionable case. Maybe that will change over time. Cuomo’s sexual harassment allegations we’re corroborated within a matter of months, by contrast.

    7. Does Cuomo’s ass taste different from Joe’s?

      1. Metaphorically? Or is that a Tony question?

        1. Tony would be one of the people who could answer it.

          1. I would consider him an authority in this area. With a lot of experience.

    8. Reason steps in it again. You don’t even have to have liked Trump to see that there is a world of difference. Reason’s need to be “perfectly equal even handed” between D’s and R’s relegates them whiner/referee status as they lose credibility for understanding nuances and things that journalists should focus on.

    9. Ah, a person who doesn’t know how to stop being a partisan hack and start being an American.
      Conservatives know all about Trump. Trump supporters are not conservatives. Conservatives are not Trump supporters (despite what Trump supporters says).
      The problem is not Trump, the problem is that in the universe of American politics he is seen as the lesser of two evils.
      Get your head out of your -rse and stop with the “tribe” mentality and maybe we can start building America back to what it was, a great country where political discussion wasn’t littered with partisan garbage like you’re spewing.

      1. LOL
        Ok, bot

    10. Can you say brainwashed? Trump is an elitist loud mouth empty suit who doesn’t respect anyone but himself. And of course, the stripper whom he was diddling while his wife was pregnant is fake as well.
      I voted for the guy and after seeing how he does his job, I have decided he was an absolute zero who bullied everyone and fired everyone, it was his way or the highway. In politics, unlike in business, you can’t fire congress, you have to learn to work with them. He’s the rich kid who when he realizes he’s about to lose the game, picks up his toys goes home.
      He was an absolute zero who in four years accomplished nothing but build a partial wall.

      1. Ha!
        Bots out in force!

        1. Yeah, that was a bunch of generic TDS bullshit.

      2. I can say brainwashed. FDR, JFK, LBJ, Hart Clinton, Edwards, Biden, all known sexual cheaters harassers, and deviants. Jimmy Carter was the only Democrat that wasn’t. You can look it up, but you won’t because it will challenge your brainwashing . Yet you CNN and MSNBC watchers have no clue because you are the “brainwashed” ones.

      3. I can say brainwashed. FDR, JFK, LBJ, Gary Hart, Clinton, John Edwards, Biden, all known sexual cheaters harassers, and deviants. Jimmy Carter was the only Democrat that wasn’t. You can look it up, but you won’t because it will challenge your brainwashing . Yet you CNN and MSNBC watchers have no clue because you are the “brainwashed” ones.

    11. What difference does it make? If Ron Paul were POTUS the deep state (swamp, bureaucracy) would still be running the country. But, we might get MSM to air a libertarian idea without misrepresenting it. Would that undue a lifetime of propaganda? It doesn’t have to. All we need is to open the door to doubt, to questioning the coercive form of govt. It can’t stand scrutiny, can’t justify its politics.

      1. Jeffy doesn’t believe there’s a deep state.

        1. There are and always have been mandarins, bureaucrats, a royal court, in any government. That is as true for China as it it for us. Without them nothing would actually get done. The executive elected leader needs to understand that. To call it the deep state is like the captain of a ship coming to a port and complaining that the tides are conspiring against him.

          1. lol – you are comparing human actions to unstoppable global events? If that’s true, then why do we need an election at all? If the President cannot change these unstoppable forces, what’s the point in having one?

    12. nice straw man you built there brah

    13. Aren’t Cuomo’s and Trump’s political parties two halves of the same looter Kleptocracy whose laws the Libertarian Party is slowly repealing via spoiler vote clout?

    14. Well, Cuomo did kill more old people than Trump.
      So he is ahead on that front at least.

  2. ‘two despicable people who represent their respective parties as well as deep rot in this country.”

    Oh this game? You might want to check your team’s record. The human representative of all libertarians just killed himself in a prison.

    1. Just like Jefferey Epstein.

  3. So, usually when I hear the word “libertarian”, it is preceded by the word “civil”. For some reason, people get the impression that libertarians primarily care about civil liberties. Boy, are those days gone from Reason, unless you’re talking about asset forfeiture or food regulation. The biggest civil liberties I can almost imagine are vaccine passports, the FBI spying on everyone, and people being detained without trials indefinitely in horrid conditions. Reason doesn’t really seem to care about any of those issues – ignores 2 of them and then equates a Governor who is all about vaccine passports after he killed a bunch of old people and lied about it with a former President who is probably better on this issue than the vast majority out there. What is going on?

      1. That’s how it comes out, but it’s a manifestation of the problem Reason’s had since a few years before Trump: the need to triangulate, no matter how absurd such positioning is.

        It’s a reduction to absurdity of a tactic that was actually employed 40+ years ago by CATO and its progeny, but which at that time Reason eschewed. But even then CATO didn’t do it to this absurd degree, only subtly.

        The problem is how to position oneself in a political market dominated by two poles. At times it will look like the pragmatic choice for libertarians is one of those poles, so the triangulators will want to make it appear the libertarian position is, despite appearances, equidistant between those poles (and off the line of them). However, by 1995 Don Ernsberger’s analysis showed that the landscape in the USA for libertarianism had changed considerably from how it’d looked decades earlier. His finding, which Libertarian Party News (national) was forthright enough to publish at that time, showed that despite his intuitive hunch that the Democrats and Republicans would be equally good and bad on an overall individual liberty scale, Democrats and Republicans had become equally bad on personal liberty, while Republicans had become vastly superior to Democrats on economic liberty.

        Since then the picture has gotten even worse for the Democrats, such that the Republicans are now a pretty clear choice across the board for both economic and personal liberties. Are there exceptions? Yes, both on a few particular issues and particular individuals in political leadership, but in the aggregate, from the grass roots to the leadership, the very obvious pragmatic choice for libertarians would be to have Republicans in charge. But of course this presents a problem for those who want to sell movement libertarianism as the only savior; they must convince their donors and activists that there’s really no worthwhile difference between Democrats and Republicans on liberties.

        Trump made this picture even worse for them, because he’s an outlier even among Republicans, being much better for liberty on some of those issues the Republican leadership has been destructive at worst and wishy-washy at best on. Ask the Jerry Tuccille of a decade ago whether a comparison between Andrew Cuomo and Donald Trump of today is even something to cogitate about, and he’d’ve laughed you out of his living room, but he had no movement skin in the game then, being a free lance.

        1. Ask the Jerry Tuccille of a decade ago whether a comparison between Andrew Cuomo and Donald Trump of today is even something to cogitate about, and he’d’ve laughed you out of his living room, but he had no movement skin in the game then, being a free lance.

          Perhaps. But the J.D. Tuccille of yesteryear wasn’t any smarter or more informed than the J.D. Tuccille of today. So, if motivations like “he was free lance back then” can sway his opinions so easily, really nothing he has ever written can be considered to be rooted in principles. In other words, J.D. Tuccille seems to be acting like a propagandist, writing whatever advances his career (such as it is) under the current regime.

          1. Writing is work for hire, like anything else. You do what you are hired to do.

            1. Writing is work for hire, like anything else. You do what you are hired to do.

              You’re confusing ghost writing/marketing/propagandizing with journalism.

          2. jdt be a whore now ………

    1. Another looter wrote a book about subsidizing opiate addiction treatments with other people’s money instead of legalizing safer drugs. In that book the word “libertarian” appears exactly once, in connection with Ross the Silk Road web coder the AMA looters had flung into dungeon. Mcafee, a noob LP joiner, was flung into dungeon and possibly murdered thanks to the Income Tax Amendment The Kleptocracy copied from the Communist Manifesto into the Constitution. Nice work by God’s Own Prohibitionists.

  4. Now do Joe Biden. Quite the upgrade from Trump, isn’t he?

    1. Actually he is.

      (but that is not saying much)

      1. You only like him because he’s a pedofile

        1. He is not! He’s a Fredophile!

          1. Biden fucks Chris Cuomo?

  5. Mass murder vs mean tweets, who can tell the difference – not Tuccile, but I see he ignores that entirely.

    You gotta love the whole “how dare he be part of the political process” line of assault regarding donations. A common marxist refrain that only they should be able to be political. And comparing that to the politicians making the rules is idiotic, but what more do you expect from a propagandist.

    For sexual assault, team blue and their journolist lapdogs dragged out every 30 year old accusation they could find to get nothing. For Coumo there is a damning intra-team brawl with damning accusations to be compared dishonestly against an out of context partial quote in order to make a point.

    1. The fact that they focus on Personality and not governance here is quite strange.

      Trump largely kept a federalist position of mandating powers to the states and not calling for lockdowns and restrictions as compared to Cuomo who was for total lockdown and has a view of a totalitarian state.

      Why Reason focuses on personality and not policy just shows how they aren’t serious analysts of ones freedoms.

      Nobody here (actual libertarians) really cares about personality outside of hypocrisy of putting elites above the masses.

  6. You missed the fact that Trump was a buyer instead of being bought or able to me bought, making him a threat to the establishment and causing them to come after him hard.

    I’m not a fan of Trump but you got to admit he is something different in the world of politics

    1. And Trump wasn’t sexually assaulting women while in office. Big difference.

    2. ” he is something different in the world of politics”

      The root cause of all TDS

    3. This too jumped out at me while reading. Trump was speaking frankly about a political reality: Politicians can be bought. Cuomo demonstrated that reality: His office was open to bribery.

      In a system where the state has such sway over the futures of the business class, capitalists are going to capitalize and find the necessary alliances within the state to preserve their business prospects. It’s the politicians who have the power and then accept payouts that are the problem.

      You see throughout corrupt 3rd world governments, if you want to travel from point A to point B in a country, you’ve got to pay bribes to the local police. If I want to drive a van full of cellphones from southern Mexico to Tijuana, I’m going to be stopped a dozen times by the cops along the way and each one will want a handout in exchange for not impounding my van for some contrived reason. These cops won’t always ask for a bribe. Instead they will threaten that my van can be impounded, with the implication being that a little money will make them change their mind or look the other way. There is no moral equivalence between the van driver paying some money to be able to proceed unimpeded and the agent of the state threatening to abuse his powers until he is paid otherwise.

  7. What’s the difference? One is team Blue and the other is team Red. Either way they represent their respective tribes, and that is what matters.

    1. WINNING!!!

      Next question?

    2. good little lamb

  8. I can tell the difference.

    Cuomo:
    Got the job on his own merit, not his family name
    Totally respects women
    Literally wrote the book on pandemic response
    Never put kids in cages

    Drumpf:
    “Success” is based on an inheritance (we Koch / Reason libertarians don’t respect that at all)
    Built concentration camps
    Put kids in cages
    Failed to implement an open borders policy during a pandemic
    Presided over the stagnation, and even decline, of Reason.com benefactor Charles Koch’s net worth

    #LibertariansForCuomo

    1. One enjoys abusive banter.

      One enjoys abusing women.

    2. “Got the job on his own merit, not his family name”

      This is OBL on his A-game.

      1. He almost got me with that one, until I checked who was posting.

      2. I guess he’s never heard of Mario Cuomo.

    3. Obama built those cages, and used them.
      Biden Admin Holds Migrants in ‘Inhumane Outdoor Pen,’ Says ACLU
      At least Trump kept them indoors and uncrowded.
      Failed to implement an open borders policy during a pandemic THANK GOD!
      Name one person charged with sedition, insurrection or treason because of Trump?
      The Democratic governors shut down the economies for political reason destroying the economy, Trump made it a V shaped recovery that Biden is destroying.

    4. Cuomo:
      Got the job on his own merit, not his family name: Except he was the son of former gov Mario Cuomo

      Totally respects women: Except for when he sexually harassed dozens of them

      Literally wrote the book on pandemic response: the guy got thousands of elderly people killed in nursing homes because he put covid cases in said nursing homes. His state has one of, if not the highest covid death rates per capita

      Never put kids in cages:
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalief_Browder

      Drumpf:
      “Success” is based on an inheritance (we Koch / Reason libertarians don’t respect that at all): An inheritance that he then invested and turned into a multiplatform brand.

      Built concentration camps: Obama built those concentration camps. They remained open during Trump’s term. Biden uses them now

      Put kids in cages: See above

      Failed to implement an open borders policy during a pandemic: Fauci says closing the borders helped prevent the spread of covid in the US. Why would an open border policy have been practical at that point in time?

      Presided over the stagnation, and even decline, of Reason.com benefactor Charles Koch’s net worth: well okay, that’s actually kind of funny.

  9. Voters decide which legislators to elect. And which “favors” those legislators will have to give out to businessmen and unions in exchange for donations, bribes, etc. Symbiotic relationship between all three: voters, legislators, special interests. Since time immemorial, I suppose. Cornelius Vanderbilt was out of business unless he bribed the legislators who were supporting his competitors in the ferry business. More recently, certain German rabblerousers convinced industrialists that their support would lead to big new contracts to rebuild the Fatherland.

  10. Now do “loveable” old Sleepy Joe Biden, with his weird creepy penchant for smelling underage girls and his comically worthless pathetic loser cokehead of a son who now makes his “living” laundering donor money by selling his shirty paintings.

    1. Don’t forget he has also been credibily accused of sexual assault by Tara Reade

  11. Trump is the one who didn’t murder people in the nursing homes.

    1. Sure, he just murdered everyone else with his pathetic af response to corona.

      1. EVERYONE IS DEAD!

        1. Yep, it wont be long until only 99.5% of us will be left alive.

      2. C’mon. Wingnut.com says COVID-19 and global warming are both hoaxes. The Con Man was just repeating the party line.

        1. Wingnut.com says COVID-19 and global warming are both hoaxes.

          Nope. Wingnut.com merely says that both are real but that they are no reason to turn our country into a totalitarian state.

          1. I want you both to know that I actually tried to go to wingnut.com, hoping it was real. How disappointing.

            1. Don’t go to any website shared by Jared’s Buttplug.

              1. Everything he says is a lie.

                1. He does post real child porn links I’m told.

      3. I’m just glad Cuomo wasn’t president.

        1. CNN and others were glowingly discussing how both Avenatti and Cuomo were contenders for president. Funny how that turned out.

          Democrats really do gravitate towards wonderful people.

      4. “Sure, he just murdered everyone else with his pathetic af response to corona.”

        That whole vaccine…know who made it happen?

        1. Pfizer and Moderna.

          1. LOL

          2. While you were raping little boys last year, Trump got most of the government bullshit out of the way so that Pfizer and Moderna were able to fast track their vaccines. Now your lying friends in the media are giving credit to Biden.

            You don’t have an ounce of integrity, do you?

            1. In his first six months as President, Biden got over 150 million Americans vaccinated! How many people did Trump get vaccinated during his first six moths? Zero!!!

              1. Does Reason not allow sarc tags anymore?

              2. There was no covid during his first 6 months as president. As for the month and a half that there was a vaccine under Trump, he ramped vaccination rates up to a million doses per day. Biden’s initial plan was to simply follow Trump’s vaccination plan. He called it 100 million doses in 100 days. Even the leftwing media had to eventually point out that would equate to the same vaccination rate as Trump.

                1. Ah, now is see the sarc

        2. They know who made it happen. They are just flailing and sputtering at this point. Last week one of them claimed Republican governors only won their elections because of gerrymandering.

          1. Damn those nefarious Brits and their charters!

      5. As opposed to Newsom, who saved California by shutting it down and still ended up with the highest case count?

      6. And once again, shitlunches shows that he’s a prima facie example of stupid.

      7. You’re still alive. Which makes me wish you were correct.

      8. Trump didn’t enact police-state tactics to lock everyone inside their homes. He only shut the border and recommended people stay home. He made a sensible recommendation. Those who died from not following it are responsible for their own deaths. That’s different than forcing nursing homes to accept covid patients be mixed into a population of old, sick and immunocompromised people.

        Trump’s “death count” is a product of him not using state force and people dying as a result of making bad decisions for themselves.

        Cuomo’s death count is a product of him putting the infected next to the same population he should have known had the highest comorbidity factors for covid.

        There is no moral equivalence between the two.

  12. You’re right- they’re both scum who never should’ve been elected in the first place.

    Cuomo could do something honorable for once and resign but of course he won’t.

    1. Honorable in the Japanese style and commit ritual suicide would nice.

      1. Something many, many democrats should do.

  13. The biggest difference between Trump and Cuomo is that Trump’s administration was marred by fake scandals and politically motivated investigations since before he took office, whereas Cuomo’s been a sexual predator for over a decade and we’re just now hearing about it.

    1. The Con Man’s “fake scandals” resulted in nine convictions and two impeachments. Only a rabidly partisan Senate GOP saved his slimy ass in the latter.

      Nixon is jealous.

      1. I was promised by the smartest people in society that Trump was being blackmailed for pissing on whores, and was guilty of conspiring with the Russian government with crimes against democracy, all before he took office.

        “I found someone guilty of lying to investigators” is something the FBI did itself, but worse.

      2. Jared’s Buttplug, do you think purveyors of child porn should go to jail?

      3. are you even trying to pretend to be a non partisan here anymore?

        1. He still pretends to be human.

      4. The Con Man’s “fake scandals” resulted in nine convictions

        I’m not aware of any criminal convictions of Trump; can you provide info?

        and two impeachments.

        Yes, to the disgrace of Democrats. Let’s hope Republicans will return the favor when they retake the House. God knows, Biden has committed multiple impeachable offenses.

        1. He still calls Trump the “con man”–as if the accusations of working with the Russians somehow still had merit?!

          If so, that’s willful ignorance. You don’t stay that ignorant by accident. You have to work at it.

        2. Unconstitutional orders? Why would we impeach Joe for that? There were no mean tweets and besides he didn’t get 3 scoops of ice cream.

      5. Those impeacments were 100% political. And no proof was ever presented thst justified them. In fact it to this day Trump has not been brought up on charges. It was all lies. Trump had one thing right that the Democrats DO NOT support. “AMERICA FIRST”.

        1. Bullshit. Trump attempted to bribe the Ukraine president into launching a fake investigation into Joe Biden – using tax payer money.

          Then he fired the whistleblower.

          Then he obstructed justice.

          Barr said the only remedy was impeachment and conviction.

          1. None of that happened.

          2. You must read a lot of ,racist fan fiction. You’re just a lying pedophile.

            1. I was trying to write ‘Marxist’, but it really is interchangeable.

    2. Also, Cuomo is in trouble for the least bad thing he did.

      1. It’s the one thing that has critical mass. The dems really don’t want to do anything that makes their team look bad.

        1. Yep, if they go after Cuomo for seeding nursing homes with Covid patients, that’ll blow back on the governors of New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Michigan as well.

  14. “In this, Cuomo shares his habits with Trump, who has long been dogged by allegations of predatory sexual behavior towards women”

    Except that 11 allegations were made against Cuomo while he was Governor, while none were made about Trump during his Presidency.

    Tuccille, like most Reason writers and editors, suffer from chronic cases of TDS, who was the most libertarian President since Cal Coolidge.

    1. I don’t even understand the yardstick being applied to measure them against each other here.

      I guess Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul are hard to tell apart–because neither one of them has been accused of sexual harassment?

      That’s a stupid standard.

      1. I guess Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul are hard to tell apart–because neither one of them has been accused of sexual harassment? That’s a stupid standard.

        It’s the standard modern Libertarians, as in the LP and Reason, apparently apply!

      2. Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy: what’s the difference?

        1. Lincoln was assassinated in Ford’s theater and Kennedy was assassinated in a vehicle built by Ford.

          Both were succeeded by a Johnson.

          1. Haha. Nice.

    2. They tend to argue against the media conventional wisdom about Trump, rather than what Trump did in reality.

      1. Certain media are allowed to spread disinformation.

    3. Wait, Tucille was the most libertarian president since Cal Coolidge? That sentence construction hurts my brain.

  15. “That Cuomo and Trump could be mistaken for one another without some clarification is no surprise”

    Judging politicians by their likability is childish. If Cuomo’s positions on lockdowns, school reopenings, the Green New Deal, and federal bailouts of New York differ from Trump’s–and you still can’t tell the difference between them–then maybe you need to grow up.

    1. Politics is about policies, unless Trump is president.

      1. Politics is now about tribes. Policies don’t matter.

        1. Yet you always condemn one tribe, and make excuses or outright defend the other one.

        2. Well, we have a two party system. One party is self declared socialists and progressives. I don’t want them in power, no matter what policies their propaganda machine pretend they support.

    2. Ken, are you the head priest of the Trump Cult?

      Or is it JesseAz, ML, or that dipshit LovesTrumpsTinyMushrommDick1789?

      1. Where Trump and Cuomo differ on the issues is an important distinction between them regardless of anything having to do with JesseAz, ML, or me personally.

        The fact that you still can’t open your mouth without perpetrating the same old fallacies–after all these years–strongly suggests that you may be stupid.

        Stupid is as stupid does, and if you could demonstrate the ability to learn something, that might suggest otherwise. Here it is for the millionth time. Maybe this time it’ll be different!

        https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

      2. You’re a rabid democrat. Likely because you see them as legitimizing your pedophilia at some point in the future.

    3. Not only is that kind of judgment childish — but unfortunately widespread — but its operation leads to, for instance, Vlad Putin’s enormous popularity. Putin’s popularity was enabled by Russian reaction to the neocons of the West, but still is basically a reflection of Russian culture and is a demonstration of what you’ve been harping on for years: the inexorable flow of policy preferences from the roots upwards. The reaction part of the phenomenon has even spilled beyond Russia’s borders and made Putin an avatar of the anti-neocon and pro-national movements elsewhere.

      1. It’s also fundamentally anti-libertarian.

        We stand up for people’s rights rather than the people themselves. We stand up for the right of terrorists not to be tortured. We stand up for the right of idiots to say idiotic things. We stand up for the right of people to believe in awful religions. We stand up for the rights of pay day loan centers. We stand up for the rights of convicted arsonists. We stand up for the rights of unsavory, nasty, ugly, and awful people–because we’re standing up for the rights rather than the people.

        Libertarianism can’t win a beauty contest, which is why our enemies try to turn everything into a beauty contest. We bring out our facts and reason to the fight, and they show up with a picture of a puppy with sad eyes and say their puppy is cuter than we are–as if that were somehow relevant. A lot of times, we stand up for the beautiful, kind, and downtrodden, too, but we should only do that when it’s right.

        Libertarians surely will not win the argument by glossing over the very real differences on the issues between someone like Cuomo and someone like Trump–because they’re both ugly. Our mission is to persuade people to choose liberty and capitalism in spite of whatever ad hominem ugliness. And Trump and Cuomo may both be ugly, but they are not the same..

  16. Bill and Hillary Clinton are the prototype corrupt politicians known for abusing women but his sleaziest was excused and accepted by much of country and the political class.

  17. Truly pathetic, tuccile.

  18. If we are comparing allegations, let’s take a walk down memory lane.

    Here’s a porn star, who’d done gang-bang videos and more, that was suing Trump ten years after the fact because he greeted her with a kiss on the cheek–and she was traumatized by it. Like much of the rest of the press, this was covered by Elizabeth Nolan Brown as serious news about a week before the presidential election of 2016.

    https://reason.com/2016/10/22/donald-trump-accused-of-offering-porn-st/

    The press cried wolf on Trump every day for more than four years. If the townspeople haven’t come running in years, maybe it’s the press’ fault.

    Cuomo was a progressive hero in the press, just a year ago, who might be installed on the Democrat ticket at the convention and save them from Biden’s weak sauce. Hell, Cuomo was headlining the Democratic National Convention a year ago, and the press adored him.

    Suffice it to say, people lost faith in the media to report anything fairly and accurately about Trump years ago–for good reason.

    1. Thought it was funny seeing so many ragging on ENB for posting nonsense and for being unable to cover Trump remotely accurately.

      1. Half the commentariat broke off and went Glib shortly after that.

        They weren’t even Trump people. They were just disgusted with the coverage.

  19. So the one shaking the businessmen down and the businessman being shaken down are equally bad?

  20. One fast-tracked a vaccine that likely helped save hundreds of thousands of lives all the while being attacked daily by incompetent folks.

    The other was the architect behind thousands of people being exposed to covid that resulted in their deaths all the while being cheered on by incompetent folks.

    It is quite easy to tell the difference.

    1. Not if you’re a TDS-addled asshole like Tuccille.

      1. If Tuccille was paid per their performances, $1 per person, he would either have made say $500,000 (Trump) or would have been paid nothing and been forced to pay $15,000 (Cuomo).

        Math is difficult for some folks.

  21. Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2
    August.9.2021 at 10:09 am
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    “Ken, are you the head priest of the Trump Cult?
    Or is it JesseAz, ML, or that dipshit LovesTrumpsTinyMushrommDick1789?”

    turd lies; it’s what he does. turd never posts without outright lies or comments misleading enough to be the same.
    Similarly, if turd uses numbers, they are lies or distorted such as to be worthless.
    turd lies. Whatever turd post is bullshit. it’s what turd does; he bullshits and he’s too stupid to know it.

  22. First I’ve seen Tucille so fucking diseased with TDS.
    Fuck off and die, asshole.

    1. When Tucille was critical of Obama he was considered the best writer here.

      1. turd lies; it’s what he does. turd never posts without outright lies or comments misleading enough to be the same.
        Similarly, if turd uses numbers, they are lies or distorted such as to be worthless.
        turd lies. Whatever turd post is bullshit. it’s what turd does; he bullshits and he’s too stupid to know it.

    2. “First I’ve seen Tucille so fucking diseased with TDS.”

      Really? I’m kinda surprised, because he’s seemed entirely obvious to me for years now.

  23. Cuomo and Trump: Who Can Tell the Difference?

    Next, let’s do:

    MSNBC and Reason: Who Can Tell the Difference?
    Two rotten publications demonstrate the propagandistic nature of America’s media landscape.

    Chris Cuomo and J.D. Tuccille: Who Can Tell the Difference?
    Two rotten scions demonstrate the incestuous and self-aggrandizing nature of America’s journalistic culture.

    1. Brainwashing:

      https://davidrozado.substack.com/p/ppdwnmd

      It is noteworthy that prejudice-denoting words are markedly increasing in prevalence alongside long-term decreases in overt expression of prejudice [6]-[9] yet recent increases in the perceived prevalence of such prejudice among the general public. 

  24. Except, from a libertarian perspective, the problem should be that Trump had to make those bribes. What were the bribes for? From what I can tell, mostly for government permission to do what is supposed to be his right to do anyway.

  25. Cuomo and Trump: Who Can Tell the Difference?

    Excuse me, but I have trouble seeing an essential difference between what Kyle did in Iraq and what Adam Lanza did at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

    Do you ever think the writers at reason write something and then stop and say to themselves, “Wait a minute. An equivocation like that… maybe I’ve lost all fucking perspective. Maybe by trying to die on every hill, including the ones I make by mounding up little piles of dirt and the ones that are really cravasses that I think everyone should pretend are hills, I’ve missed the opportunity to live, fight, and die on the hills that are important.”?

    Nah.

    1. You’re wrong.

      Yes, the press repeated lies about yellowcake in Niger and mobile WMD labs.

      Yes, the press lied about Benghazi and Hillary Clinton’s email server.

      Yes, the press lied about Trump’s connection with the Russians, and the press lied about the FBI’s actions and the source of those allegations.

      Yes, the press lied about Hunter Biden’s laptop, and they lied about the probable origin of the pandemic.

      All that being said, the problem is that you don’t believe the press–because you’re stupid.

      Hope you get smarter and believe what you’re told by the press in the future.

    2. Trump: End the lockdowns. Get the economy started again.
      Cuomo: We need another round of lockdowns.

      Trump: They’ll let you grab them by the pussy.
      Cuomo: I grab them whether they let me or not.

      Trump: People crossing the borders should present papers.
      Cuomo: People eating at a restaurant, going to a bar, or shopping at the supermarket should present papers.

      Trump: How can I be anti-semitic? My son-in-law is a Jew!
      Cuomo: The kids in that Jewish school aren’t wearing masks. Sic ’em officers!

      Trump: Sunnis, Shi’ites, Saudi Arabians, Qatari, Israeli… we’re all people, surely we can come to some sort of an agreement? There are good people on both sides!
      Cuomo: Fuck you unvaccinated assholes and the Republican horse you rode in on!

      Trump: I hate the media and they hate me!
      Cuomo: I’m Mario, my brother Chris works for CNN.

      Trump: Ban bump stocks I guess.
      Cuomo: If it has a trigger, it needs a ban.

      . . .

      1. But did Cuomo ever send mean tweets?!?!

        1. No, but he made a lot of cocaine fueled phone calls in the middle of the night to scream at member so this own party if they displeased him.

    3. Do you ever think the writers at reason write something and then stop and say to themselves, “Wait a minute. An equivocation like that… maybe I’ve lost all fucking perspective.

      I think the bigger question is: were the writers at Reason always this stupid and the last few years have just revealed them for who they really are?

      Sadly, that seems to be the only logical explanation. Sadly, libertarianism to them has apparently only just been a gimmick, something to appeal a bit edgy and different in a crowded media landscape.

      1. Not stupid (well, mostly. Boehm and Binion are indeed idiots) just dishonest.

        1. What is ENB to you, rancid hamburger?

          1. More like the fermented tofu you get in Taiwan that smells like a dumpster.

            1. Fermented tofu is good for you even though it smells like garbage, kind of like actual libertarianism.

              Reason writing is more like raw sushi infested with parasites: it tastes slightly off but you still eat it, and then is destroys your brain.

              1. Only if you read the articles

    4. Jesus, I forgot about that one. A Sheldon will do your taxes, but writing about the intricacies of the human condition, Sheldon’s NOT your man.

  26. The difference between Cuomo and Trump is that the media took Trump to task. Trump couldn’t step a foot out of line without the media being all over it, and more than once they moved the line after he already put his foot down.

    You could say the same for Biden. In many ways, Biden was the exact person that the media was accusing Trump of being: corrupt, philandering, and arguably mentally unfit. However, the media’s covering for Biden was absurd.

    On the other hand, Cuomo transparently has his little brother at CNN covering for him. At best, the media has treated Cuomo with kid’s gloves, and at worst, there has been deliberate hiding of his issues.

    That’s the issue. The fact that malfeasance from one side of the political aisle gets almost a free pass by the media because it helps them win.

    1. Trump couldn’t step a foot out of line without the media being all over it,

      He couldn’t step foot in line. If Trump had secured DJT Jr. a position at Burisma and withheld aid until a corruption investigation was dropped, it would be Biden’s job to at least ask the Ukrainians to look into it.

    2. Why is it that the media has become so one-sided as the electorate has become more 50/50 divided? A hundred years ago every city had competing newspapers whose editors hated the other editors’ politics. Heck, even in Union-supporting Pennsylvania during the Civil War, my small town had a pro-Lincoln and an anti-Lincoln paper.

    3. Trump couldn’t eat a taco bowl without the media being all over it.

      1. Cultural appropriation.

      2. How many scoops of ice cream did he have afterwards?

  27. I can easily tell, because Trump was not corrupt. Not in the slightest. Why do you think all the other politicians feared him so much they made up phony scandals about him?

    The test of a corrupt politician is that while in office, his net worth increases by more than his salary. Trump’s decreased. Q.E.D.

    1. His net worth has to decrease otherwise he will have to pay taxes. Like other real estate investors his properties in hotels, golf courses, and office buildings lost revenue. He also apparently legally depreciates the value of the properties his company owns.

      Now he is sitting on millions in money people foolishly gave him. He is a smart businessman and does not spend his own money. He lives, eats, works, and plays in his own income generating properties. He invests the banks money. His travel expenses are paid for by his PACS or his companies. All of this is common practice among the super rich. I don’t fault him for it. Our tax codes penalize us schmucks with reportable earned income not the wealthy.

      No matter what if you have been president you are set for life one way or the other.

      Net worth becomes irrelevant when you already have more than you could possibly spend.

      1. ^ Envy.

        1. It is a consistent trait of the posts by echospinner the virus

          1. That and saying really dumb shit.

      2. How does that work for Obama who has done jack squat, but is now worth hundreds of millions?

        1. That’s different! Obama is SOPHISTICATED! When you’re SOPHISTICATED, you live by different rules!

      3. Good for him!

  28. Lots of difference between Trump and Cuomo.

    1. Trump was right up front about being a sleaze, whereas Cuomo was all sanctimonious during the #BELIEVE HER period.

    2. Trump wasn’t in public office while acting sleazy. Cuomo was.

    3. Trump paid off his accusers to keep quiet. Cuomo used his position as governor to threaten their jobs.

    BTW, did Trump ever actually say he had grabbed a pussy?

    1. BTW, did Trump ever actually say he had grabbed a pussy?

      From the Left’s point of view, what he actually said was worse: he pointed out that a man who is a rich celebrity–even one as goofy looking as he is–has a lot more opportunities with women because many women will throw themselves at such men. It’s true, and that makes the Cat Lady set very angry.

      1. But Biden grabbed pussy too, and wasn’t even invited. Where’s the Democrats on that?

        1. That was litigated during the campaign, and the Washington Post said Biden was innocent.

    2. You can’t find a man over 16 that hasn’t made a lewd remark in his life in a private conversation if you are totally honest. You are all hypocrites. That is how adolescents think as they deal with learning about sex and raging hormones, and many men never outgrow adolescence. This is not new, it is not party specific, it is life. Now acting out is different, and should have consequences. Sexual harassment and assault are always wrong. Again that applies to politicians of both parties.

  29. So Cuomo harrassed and assaulted his staff members, and his pandemic response gave New York some of the highest death counts in the world.

    And Reason concludes, both sides bad.

    1. I thought Tuccille was a bit more intelligent than this.
      Turns out he’s but one more TDS-addled asshole.
      Tuccille? Stuff your TDS up your ass, and follow it with a running, rusty chainsaw. Make the word a better place.

  30. The difference between Cuomo and Trump is that the media took Trump to task. Trump couldn’t step a foot out of line without the media being all over it, and more than once they moved the line after he already put his foot down.

    On the other hand, consider Biden. In many ways, Biden was the exact person that the media was accusing Trump of being: corrupt, philandering, and arguably mentally unfit. However, the media’s covering for Biden was absurd.

    Coming back to Cuomo, Cuomo transparently has his little brother at CNN covering for him. At best, the media has treated Cuomo with kid’s gloves, and at worst, there has been deliberate hiding of his issues.

    That’s the issue. The fact that malfeasance from one side of the political aisle gets almost a free pass by the media because it helps them win.

  31. What do you do when you are forced to report bad things about a democrat politician? You turn it into another hit piece on Trump.

    Just merge with salon already.

    1. He wasn’t forced to report bad things about a Democrat politician, he really knows and believes those things. What he was forced to do was make it bad about Trump equally.

  32. There are no more sharks to jump

    1. It can ALWAYS get worse.

  33. lol #bothsidesclickbait

  34. Those impeacments were 100% political. And no proof was ever presented thst justified them. In fact it to this day Trump has not been brought up on charges. It was all lies. Trump had one thing right that the Democrats DO NOT support. “AMERICA FIRST”.

    1. What would have happened if Trump had said “I know this is Unconstitutional, but I’m gonna do it anyway for a few months until it winds it’s way thru the courts, because I can”

  35. Both are unapologetic pussy grabbers.

    But Brandybuck, that was in the past!

    Yes I know, which is why I said “unapologetic”. Other than getting some flack from the press, neither has shown the slightest bit of remorse for assaulting women.

    1. Brandyshit lies; it’s what Brandyshit does in order to justify his successful effort to make sure we got Biden.
      Brandyshit is a TDS-addled asshole.

      1. HEy! What about me?

        1. YOU have NOT conformed, so YOU are cast OUT as well!

          To be a PROPER Tribal Member in Good Standing, you MUST believe 12 impossible things before breakfast! (It used to be only six, but, well, inflation, ya know).

          https://www.salon.com/2021/08/08/a-terrifying-new-theory-fake-news-and-conspiracy-theories-as-an-evolutionary-strategy/
          A terrifying new theory: Fake news and conspiracy theories as an evolutionary strategy
          Social scientist Michael Bang Petersen on why people believe outrageous lies — as a tool in violent group conflict

          1. LOL, two pedos supporting each other!

            1. Recohsquirreler Sqoebbels provides an inordinate amount of white knighting towards the pedo. He doth white knight too much.

        2. You? You should commit suicide. Or go to prison for your crimes as a pedophile.

          1. Patriotic Girly-Man, drinking Girly-Man Kool-Aid in a spiraling vortex of darkness, cannot or will not see the Light… It’s a VERY sad song! Kinda like this…

            He’s a real Kool-Aid Man,
            Sitting in his Kool-Aid Land,
            Playing with his Kool-Aid Gland,
            Has no thoughts that help the people,
            He wants to turn them all to sheeple!
            On the sheeple, his Master would feast,
            Master? A disaster! Just the nastiest Beast!
            Kool-Aid man, please listen,
            You don’t know, what you’re missin’,
            Kool-Aid man, better thoughts are at hand,
            The Beast, to LEAVE, you must COMMAND!

            A helpful book is to be found here: M. Scott Peck, Glimpses of the Devil
            https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1439167265/reasonmagazinea-20/

            Hey Patriotic Girly-Man …
            If EVERYONE who makes you look bad, by being smarter and better-looking than you, killed themselves, per your wishes, then there would be NO ONE left!
            Who would feed you? Who’s tits would you suck at, to make a living? WHO would change your perpetually-smelly DIAPERS?!!?
            You’d better come up with a better plan, Stan!

        3. Turd lies; that’s what he does. His ‘intellect’ is not developed to the point where he’s capable of discerning lies from fact. May have to do with his coke habit, but turd lies. He does nothing else,

  36. George Washington and Hugo Chavez: who can tell the difference?

    1. They were both bipedal hominids who lived in the Western Hemisphere. Both identified as cis-male

  37. Hillary Clinton and Michael Dukakis: who can tell the difference?

    1. Trump and Hitler; who can tell the difference?

      https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/trumps-big-lie-and-hitlers-is-this-how-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism-begins/
      Trump’s Big Lie and Hitler’s: Is this how America’s slide into totalitarianism begins?

      1. When the headline is a question, the answer is always “no”

      2. But it wasn’t “Hitler’s big lie”. Rather, the Nazis accused “the Jews” of the big lie, and he accused his political enemies of attacking parliament. Like Democrats and you are doing today, little Nazis that you are.

  38. Maybe the question is why people don’t like good politicians better than they do. Like moths to a flame the worst get the most attention. In the effort to purge the DINOs, RINOs, socialists and corporatists people seem to settle on the scum at the bottom of the barrel. Maybe the next person running who seems kind of milk toast and is talking about responsible spending to meet the countries needs will get more attention? Probably not.

    1. The best POTUS we’ve had for the last century gets attention from TDS-addled lefty assholes like you.

      1. Would be interesting thought experiment to imagine a reason article rating the presidents from 1960 – present. Who is better\best and why.

        1. From ’60…
          Kennedy did cut tax rates, but he also owned Bay of Pigs. Got shot before we got a full read, but as a (media-covered) philanderer, it’d be hard to find worse.
          LBJ: Vietnam, “War on Poverty”. Even Manchester admits ‘he didn’t know much about economics’ should have been carved on his gravestone.
          Nixon? Really? The claim is OPEC raised the price of oil by 300%. The fact is that Nixon closed the international gold window, and OPEC suppliers raised the oil prices to match the debased dollar.
          Ford? Forever famous for a WIN lapel button. And falling backwards off the plane staircase.
          Carter was a stumble-bum, but did de-reg trucking and airline rates; not bad.
          Reagan ran up a huge *defense* deficit, which, unlike entitlements, is not self-perpetuating and did kill the USSR. Not sure, but that might have saved future costs.
          Bush 1? “No new taxes” C-ya.
          Clinton reigned in by an R congress, including HRC’s socialized medicine. And then ‘what does “is” mean’ bullshit.
          Bush II: “Let’s start a war in Afghanistan!”
          Obo? O-care – nuff said for that lying POS.

    2. Decent people tell us truths that we do NOT want to hear! THAT is why we do NOT elect decent folks!

      Also, they make us look bad! By being better people than we are, that is. So we “kill the prophets”! At the BARE minimum, we sure as hell do NOT elect them!

      http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/

      1. And by “decent people”, you mean the kind of fascists you favor in government?

      2. As the Joker says of Gotham: “Decent people shouldn’t live here. They’d be happier someplace else.”

        1. They should live in Hell, where spreading misery and suffering is considered a virtue! (And they get to reap what they sow, in spades!
          If they buy into the Joker’s lies, and the Joker’s definition of “decent people”, that is. And yes, Trump IS a Joker!)

    3. Maybe the next person running who seems kind of milk toast and is talking about responsible spending to meet the countries needs will get more attention?

      And who do you have in mind there? Just provide us some examples…

      1. Jesus, Mahatma Gandhi, or Martin Luther King Jr. would do. Sad to say, they’ve all been killed already. Killed for SHARPLY questioning this whole deal about “Me and my tribe, and my tribe’s violence GOOD, and you and your tribe, and your tribe’s violence BAD!” That gets you killed instead of elected! THAT is damned near the entire problem! http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/

        (It is also why the decent people, libertarians, posting here, constantly get verbally attacked by malevolent and dishonest people. How DARE you go and make me look bad, by being a better person than I am?).

        1. Jesus, Mahatma Gandhi, or Martin Luther King Jr. would do

          I see: you want to be governed by a bunch of creepy, revolutionary nutcases.

          It is also why the decent people, libertarians, posting here, constantly get verbally attacked by malevolent and dishonest people. How DARE you go and make me look bad, by being a better person than I am?

          Well, you are neither a decent person nor a libertarian, so why don’t you just STFU.

          1. “…so why don’t you just STFU.”?

            Do you recall the awesome enchanter named “Tim”, in “Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail”? The one who could “summon fire without flint or tinder”? Well, you remind me of Tim… You are an enchanter who can summon persuasion without facts or logic!

            So I discussed your awesome talents with some dear personal friends on the Reason staff… Accordingly…

            Reason staff has asked me to convey the following message to you:

            Hi Fantastically Talented Author:

            Obviously, you are a silver-tongued orator, and you also know how to translate your spectacular talents to the written word! We at Reason have need for writers like you, who have near-magical persuasive powers, without having to write at great, tedious length, or resorting to boring facts and citations.

            At Reason, we pay above-market-band salaries to permanent staff, or above-market-band per-word-based fees to freelancers, at your choice. To both permanent staff, and to free-lancers, we provide excellent health, dental, and vision benefits. We also provide FREE unlimited access to nubile young groupies, although we do firmly stipulate that persuasion, not coercion, MUST be applied when taking advantage of said nubile young groupies.

            Please send your resume, and another sample of your writings, along with your salary or fee demands, to ReasonNeedsBrilliantlyPersuasiveWriters@Reason.com .

            Thank You! -Reason Staff

            1. You are an enchanter who can summon persuasion without facts or logic!

              You have trouble with the English language, don’t you? I wasn’t trying to persuade you or anybody else, I was expressing my contempt for you and your fascist beliefs.

              1. Contempt is ALL that you have left, after you run TOTALLY dry on facts, logic, coherence, and benevolence! Got it!

                1. That is correct. Since you have shown yourself to be immune to facts, reason, and logic, since you keep lying, expressing contempt for you is all I have left.

                  Facts, reason, logic, and benevolence are reserved for people who engage in honest debate, not for despicable fascists like you.

                2. Assholish spaz flags!

      2. In the 2020 primary in Georgia 14th Congressional district Margorie Taylor Green defeated a conservative doctor John Cowan running for the Republican nomination. John Cowan was a conservative, possibly more so than MTG, but just not crazy enough to get attention.

        1. That is truly sad! And I hope, NOT a sign of things to come! Wicked things, this way come? Hopefully not! But we can only do what we can do!

          Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

          H. L. Mencken

          Wake up, voters!

          1. Assholish spaz flag!

    4. How important is it (to you) that a politician makes you feel good about yourself, especially through your chosen political identity?

      1. My tribe good! Your tribe bad! (What else can we say?)

        “Good” politicians, ever since Ooog Thag in approximately 4,000,000 B.C., have understood this, and used it (and us!) to their advantage!

        1. Principles you obviously live by.

        2. Assholish spaz flag!

  39. Why Does the Media Keep Uncritically Repeating Implausible Police Fentanyl Overdose Stories?

    One is supported and protected by the establishment, the other isn’t? One killed people and tried to cover it up, the other didn’t? One is supported and protected by major media outlets, the other wasn’t? One received an Emmy award for doing his job, the other didn’t?

    How am I doing so far?

    1. Good, except for the headline mixup

      1. Yeah, cut and pasting across multiple threads… blah blah.

  40. I think Sullum hacked 2Chilly’s account.

  41. OT: some people just realized they’re the hired help.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/06/style/obama-birthday-party.html

    Who’s still invited? Not the people who made Obama what he was.

    “So were the majority of former Obama administration officials who had been looking forward to the reunion after an isolated year, and who generally credit themselves with helping create the Obama legacy that has allowed the former president to settle in so comfortably with the A-list crowd.”

    1. “Who’s in, who’s out”, typical NYT gossip columnist drivel. Ignore that he even HAD this party while his team is attempting to re-lock the country down and screeching about social distancing and masks.

    2. Yep, the party of the people. Very privileged, elitist, snobbish people.

  42. Any reasonable person who is not deathly ill with TDS can tell the difference tucille. This isn’t complicated.

    1. Even the ones who ARE deathly ill with TDS can tell the difference.

      They just won’t admit it, even to themselves.

  43. In other news… A rare tip of the hat to the Squad for their demands on the reconciliation trillions. Tanking the infrastructure bill—priceless!

  44. Every politician is a scumbag. The difference between Trump and everyone else is that everyone is willing to call him a scumbag, while heaping awards and honors on people like Andrew Cuomo for his ‘competent political leadership’ and ‘moral superiority’.

  45. Cuomo can speak in complete sentences. That’s something.

  46. Trump confessed repeatedly, publicly, to grabbing pussies and doing all kinds of other horrible stuff. Trump has more victims than Cosby. If you can’t see the difference, you’re a Trump supporter.

    1. You started off with a series of falsehoods.

      What Trump said was that “when you are a star” you CAN “grab them by the pussy.” He didn’t say that he had actually done it, just that it could be done.

      And he said it one time, not “repeatedly.”

      When you have to LIE to prove your point, guess what you’re proving?

      1. A lie requires intent to mislead. It’s just as likely this drone is repeating what CNN and others have told him Trump said. They tend to do that. As opposed to looking at what he actually said.

        Democrats are idiot followers.

    2. “Trump confessed repeatedly, publicly, to grabbing pussies…”

      TDS-addled lefty steaming pile of shit starts off with lies, thereby making it clear that lefty steaming pile of lefty shit is every bit as believable as turd.
      Fuck off and die, asshole. Make your family proud.

    3. He claimed he grabbed pussies after he said “they let you,” thus implying consent. The majority of his sexual harassment accusers dropped their claims or, like E. Jean Carrol, said rape was “sexy” and blew up the credibility of their claim victimhood.

      The number of victims Trump has has yet to be determined in a court of law. Our court system relies on the assumption of innocent until proven guilty. A jury at least found Cosby guilty before an appeals court through out that case for prosecutorial misconduct.

  47. >Cuomo and Trump: Who Can Tell the Difference?

    Anyone with an ounce of morality, you asshole.

    After the leftist communist chinese regime plunged the world into a pandemic and every leftist in the world exploited it to cripple every economy in the world and then burned down businesses and government buildings in every capitalist country in the world, you really have some damned nerve trying to compare the left to the right as if they’re equals.

  48. Anyone who could ask this question is too ignorant to understand the answer.

  49. One actually enacted Covid response policies which led directly to thousands of deaths “due to the infection”, the other is considered to be responsible for those deaths by the people who elected the first one.

    So far the biggest material difference could be that the NY State AG has actually found evidence of criminal behavior by one and has spent most of the last three years investigating the other.

    1. ^

  50. According to the logic, here, Trump might as well be indistinguishable from Harvey Weinstein, Epstein or Bill Clinton because they share the penchant for wanton womanizing.

    Most of allegations on Trump are decades old and never reached trial. No one accused PRESIDENT Trump of impropriety. An AG of his own party did not document incidents of sexual abuse that was corroborated by witnesses. He just fired people he didn’t like, he didn’t use his office to threaten people in government.

    A comparison can only be made in a vacuum if you avoid context. The media despised Trump and wished any accusations against him to be true. They actively rallied against ANYTHING he did. Remember that Kavanaugh was imagined to be some drunken rapist out of thin air.

    That the media, big tech and the ruling class protected Cuomo and Biden (“It’s against the law to make false accusation” – NYT on Tara Reid) is self explanatory at this point. I’m just getting a bit tired of the tone dead bad takes from the “Pox on both houses” crowd. One of the houses wants to defund cops, open up the borders in a pandemic, and says inflation won’t happen if you print money. They control the media and corporations and have the resources to launch gigantic assaults on your personal liberty in the name of equity.

    The Pharisees of this community are tribalists too. Chem Jeff won’t get pissed off if someone trashed his dad in public, even if what was said is objectively true? Human beings aren’t completely objective. Look at how this very publication ignores any developments that inconvenience on their narrative on immigration, drugs, cops, etc.

    1. Well, there are differences, the first of which – right, wrong, good, bad, or indifferent – is that Trump is no longer a “public servant”.
      Another is that – unlike 90+ percent of public servants in the country – he made his money BEFORE becoming one.
      And Cuomo has never set and run – successfully or otherwise – a business enterprise of any kind.

      1. Democrats don’t respect successful people in private business. Unless they are ‘cool’ celebrity types. Ever notice how no one talks about income inequality where Beyoncé, or LeBron James are concerned? Yet they make more than almost every CEO on the planet.

        Democrats are either immoral or amoral. Consistency and values are beyond them. Merely weapons to be used for the advancement of their agenda. This is why they have so many sociopaths. Like most of,the leftists who post here.

    2. “narrative on immigration, drugs, cops” and black-thug crime

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  52. This article reads like massive cope and whataboutery. He’s not in office anymore, you need to let it go. Also, if you can’t tell the difference between them then you probably don’t have anything to add to the conversation.

  53. Just a quick note to the editor: after having subscribed to Reason for, I can’t even remember, roughly 17 years? I give up. The fact that you’ve probably paid real money to post this anal emanation on your site, all I can say is, I’m out, and good luck getting the stains out of your carpeting.

  54. There goes Reason again, bashing Trump while hair sniffing, little girl hugging and kissing and Tara Reade raping Biden doesn’t even get an honorable mention. If were going back to ex-Presidents for comparison to Cuomo let us not for get Paula Jones raping, Intern dress staining, Jenifer Flowers affair having Bill Clinton. But then the hole point of the article is so smear Trump, not paint politicians of both parties as predators. Big FAIL for Reason once again.

  55. — One has been accused of sexual harassment including leering, touching, and groping and deserves to be cast out of office ASAP.
    — The other has been accused of actual rape and deserves to be slammed roughly into a Fort Leavenworth cell with leering Bubba looking on fondly.

    — One is brilliant but unprincipled and ruthless.
    — The other is vacuous but possessed of a political lizard brain that enchants authoritarian-minded cultists on reason.com who call themselves libertarians.

    — One is a standard-issue old-timey Democrat New York pol.
    — The other tried his damndest to carry out a coup and overturn an American presidential election.

    1. oh pleeeeze! get that high horse out of your butt!

      1. unless my sarcastometer failed me there…
        in which case – ignore my response

    2. “…— The other tried his damndest to carry out a coup and overturn an American presidential election.”

      TDS-addled lefty steaming pile of lefty shit hopes lies will justify his idiocy!
      Hint, asshole: No ones buying your assholery.

  56. Oh, let me guess: you’re comparing Cuomo and Biden!

    Do I get a prize?

    1. You get a dandy prize for most cleverest reply ever.

      1. You’re a dandy?

  57. So these guys are scum bags..and the “normies” in Congress? How did Nancy Pelosi get so rich? Obama ensured certain “green groups” made out like bandits in the solar power scandals and so on. They are all pretty corrupt with a few exceptions like Tom Massie and Rand Paul and a few others. Bush and Obama killed how many innocent civilians in the middle east? What’s worst..Trump or Bush? Clinton was a sexual deviant and was a hero to the left…

    Cuomo was a scumbag going back to when he ran HUD yet the media refused to cover that when he ran for Gov.

    You want to start throwing rocks..I’m all for it..but let’s not stop at those two..most of Congress is a cesspool of unethical liars and cheats..

    1. We could theoretically go through the list of 100 senators and 435 representatives and chuck rocks, but that sounds exhausting. I’m not partial to either major party. I just get ever so slightly annoyed when a losing presidential candidate tries to torpedo the American experiment in republican democracy. Last best hope and all that.

      1. Yeah, we get it. You’re a drama queen.

      2. Well, he did tell his supporters to peacefully and patriotically torpedo democracy [citation needed on the torpedo part], so that’s gotta count for something.

  58. It is headlines and articles like this that show the critically inadequate perspective of Reason publication(s) and Libertarian philosophy – grounded on unnatural specificity of self-serving issues to “endorse.”
    If you can’t see the downfall of US society is based on abhorrent act of abortion, with subsequent loss of value of all human life, then you will be blind to relative superiority of President Trump’s affections versus a literal swamp dweller like Cuomo. All has rolled downhill from the abortion pandemic. That pandemic is enabled by failure to appreciate there is an afterlife that includes judgment. Oh, how I know that triggers Libertarians. It is a battle of good and evil, and all I see Libertarians really caring about is mainlining slacker dope habits. Speaks plenty to the general weakness-ambassadorship and craven worldview that will lead to destruction that Libertarians promote.

    1. Trump was pro-choice before he was anti-abortion. He considered asking Marla Maples to get an abortion.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914

      1. Do you have a point, TDS-addled asshole, other than you are a TDS-addled piece of lefty shit?

  59. What a fucking hack. Reason is a joke.

  60. So, businessmen who have to bribe crooked politicians in order to do business are equally bad with the crooked politicians who force businessmen to pay or go broke?

  61. It hasn’t changed much over the last 50 years. Barry Goldwater was a principled, honest guy. He ran against LBJ, who was worse than Trump and Cuomo, but LBJ won by a large margin in the Presidential election.

    Tulsi Gabbard is a far more capable and honest person than Joe Biden, but he was elected POTUS and she was not.

    Tim Scott is a man of much better character than Trump, but the majority of Repubs still say they want Trump. Go figure.

    1. Tim Scott is most definitely a man of better character than Trump. You could pull a random drunk out of a gutter and find a man of better character than the rapist traitor. Yeah, go figure.

      1. da, comrade ………xi approves

      2. Joe Biden, corrupt, hair sniffing, little girl kissing and hugging, Tara Reade raping pervert.
        Bill Clinton Jennifer Flowers affair, Monica cigar peneatrating, splooge dress staing affair, Paula Jones rapist
        John Edwards lying affair having illegimate child making while his wife is dying of cancer.
        Lyndon B. Johnson, on the other hand, seemed crudely unconcerned with how his long-term affair with Alice Glass might affect his wife, Lady Bird Johnson. LBJ was known for exposing his genitals and bragging that he’d had sex with more women than John F. Kennedy—whose exploits were well-known in D.C.
        Jack Kennedy – The Most Notorius Womanizers in History
        FDR -Franklin D. Roosevelt had a long-time mistress (and possibly others) that the public didn’t know about until after his death. FDR started his affair with Lucy Mercer, Eleanor Roosevelt’s social secretary, more than a decade before he became president.

        Good thing we have all those sterling Democrats for role models for our young sons. (sarc) You are as big a hypocrite as there could be found, just like woke, partisan, socialist, sycophant Reason.

      3. Joe Biden, corrupt, hair sniffing, little girl kissing and hugging, Tara Reade raping pervert.
        Bill Clinton Jennifer Flowers affair, Monica cigar peneatrating, splooge dress staing affair, Paula Jones rapist, Jeffery Epstien lolita express flying to pedophile island buddy.
        John Edwards lying affair having illegimate child making while his wife is dying of cancer.
        Lyndon B. Johnson, on the other hand, seemed crudely unconcerned with how his long-term affair with Alice Glass might affect his wife, Lady Bird Johnson. LBJ was known for exposing his genitals and bragging that he’d had sex with more women than John F. Kennedy—whose exploits were well-known in D.C.
        Jack Kennedy – The Most Notorius Womanizers in History
        FDR -Franklin D. Roosevelt had a long-time mistress (and possibly others) that the public didn’t know about until after his death. FDR started his affair with Lucy Mercer, Eleanor Roosevelt’s social secretary, more than a decade before he became president.

        Good thing we have all those sterling Democrats for role models for our young sons. (sarc) You are as big a hypocrite as there could be found, just like woke, partisan, socialist, sycophant Reason.

      4. Joe Biden, corrupt, hair sniffing, little girl kissing and hugging, Tara Reade raping pervert.
        Bill Clinton Jennifer Flowers affair, Monica cigar peneatrating, splooge dress staining affair, Paula Jones rapist, Jeffery Epstien lolita express flying to pedophile island buddy.
        John Edwards lying affair having illegimate child making while his wife is dying of cancer.
        Lyndon B. Johnson, on the other hand, seemed crudely unconcerned with how his long-term affair with Alice Glass might affect his wife, Lady Bird Johnson. LBJ was known for exposing his genitals and bragging that he’d had sex with more women than John F. Kennedy—whose exploits were well-known in D.C.
        Jack Kennedy – The Most Notorius Womanizers in History
        FDR -Franklin D. Roosevelt had a long-time mistress (and possibly others) that the public didn’t know about until after his death. FDR started his affair with Lucy Mercer, Eleanor Roosevelt’s social secretary, more than a decade before he became president.

        Good thing we have all those sterling Democrats for role models for our young sons. (sarc) You are as big a hypocrite as there could be found, just like woke, partisan, socialist, sycophant Reason.

    2. The only Democrat that wasn’t a total pervert and rapist was Jimmy Carter. (see my response to solid citizen). The truth is people in power, yes even women, are likely to use their position to sexually harass and assault others. Sex is the ultimate domination. As a fair an honest person, non-partisan and real libertarian the fact some people love to point out one parties failings while ignoring their parties failing is frustrating. It also shows how easily people are brainwashed today by the modern media they choose to consume. They believe what they are told and never question there may by evil motives for what they spout. Reason used to be a respected libertarian source. They are now a joke, in no way libertarian and TDS Trump hating jounalist (I use that word loosely) that is willing to overlook the damage Biden has already done to the country and continues to do just so they can keep bashing Trump. Reason should label themselves as National Socialist Fascist, not libertarians.

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  64. When cops choose to get themselves shot and or killed enforcing unjust laws, that’s when you can place the blame. 98% voted against Mark Tippetts as Governor of Texas in 2018, and in 2019 there was a drug raid in Houston where five cops got wounded. To the 98 percent: You didn’t pull the trigger, but you did pull the lever.

    1. How cruel! How dare anyone point out that people who vote for the parasitical and cowardly initiation of force actually “win” the elections by getting exactly what they endorsed with their votes and support. May they feel it on their own hides, with schadenfreude!

    2. 98% voted against Mark Tippetts as Governor of Texas in 2018, and in 2019 there was a drug raid in Houston where five cops got wounded.

      What exactly is it that you’re asserting the former has to do with the latter?

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  66. Kleptocracy infiltrators attack Tuccille and Reason for the same reason. Not only does he find fault with the promiscuous initiation of deadly force at the drop of a deliberate lie, he understands that both halves of the looter Kleptocracy are parasitically hooked on it. Lampreys, leeches, cuckoos, hookworms and ticks would also attack Tuccille and Reason for daring to question parasitism. In a sort of reversal of evolution, the Kleptocracy parties’ tools it for them.

    1. Tuccille and Reason are part of the kleptocracy and the war mongering class.

      But fools like you fall for the propaganda every time.

  67. It is like asking who was the most overrated guitar player of the 80’s.

    You cannot compare the two.

  68. Wait, I know, I know! (waves upraised hand)

    Cuomo is the one who *actually* sexually harassed women. Right?

  69. One is the best POTUS we’ve had for the last hundred years.
    The other is a murderer and sexual predator.

  70. The biggest difference is that the Dems pressured Cuomo to resign while the Repubs couldn’t care less about pussy-grabbing on Trump’s part.

    1. “The biggest difference is that the Dems pressured Cuomo to resign while the Repubs couldn’t care less about pussy-grabbing on Trump’s part.”

      The biggest difference is that TDS-addled lefty pieces of shit lie about Trump, TDS-addles lefty asshole.

  71. I’ve thought this from the very beginning: They share the same verbal-mannerisms. From my perspective it’s undeniable.

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