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Senators Aim To Curtail Presidential Power Over War, Arms Sales, Emergency Declarations

Plus: The FBI had at least a dozen informants helping put together the plot to kidnap Michigan's governor, price controls fail again, and more.

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A bipartisan trio of U.S. senators has introduced legislation that would curtail the executive branch's powers over war authorizations, emergency declarations, and arms deals. The effort is aimed at restoring Congress to its proper place as a coequal branch of government and seeks "to reverse the decades-long erosion of the House and Senate's authority to shape American foreign policy," Politico reports.

The National Security Powers Act is the result of a somewhat unlikely political alliance between Sens. Mike Lee (R–Utah), Chris Murphy (D–Conn.), and Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.). Rep. James McGovern (D–Mass.) will introduce a companion bill in the House. The three senators had been the driving forces behind a 2019 resolution that sought to end U.S. involvement in the ongoing civil war in Yemen—it passed Congress but was vetoed by then-President Donald Trump, who had previously inked a major arms deal with Saudi Arabia that helped it prosecute the devastating war in Yemen.

The new proposal would give Congress a stronger hand in future showdowns over how American troops are deployed or where American military gear is sold. It would require an affirmative vote in Congress to approve sales of American fighter jets, tanks, and other weapons of war totaling over $14 million—a key change from the current system that requires a veto-proof majority in Congress to block such deals.

It would also require that Congress vote within 20 days, rather than 60, to approve any military action taken under the War Powers Resolution (WPR), and the bill would automatically cut off funding for engagements that do not win congressional approval. Again, this reverses the current arrangement in which Congress must cobble together a veto-proof majority to block presidential approval of military actions under the WPR.

Finally, the bill requires that Congress approve emergency declarations—and specific powers tied to them—within 30 days. The sponsors say that measure will prevent the president "from exploiting a crisis to increase executive authority." Trump had declared a national emergency at the U.S.-Mexico border in 2019 in order to divert billions of dollars in military spending to his proposed border wall project—and, again, Congress was unable to pull together the veto-proof majority necessary to stop it.

"Congress has acquiesced to the growing, often unchecked power of the executive to determine the outline of America's footprint in the world," Murphy said in a statement. "Before it's too late, Congress needs to reclaim its rightful role as a co-equal branch on matters of war and national security."

These are worthwhile proposals that would go a long way toward ensuring that Congress has a voice in important debates over U.S. foreign policy and national security. They would temper future presidents' ability to abuse their broad executive authority.

But the bill faces an uphill battle given that Congress isn't too interested in asserting itself. "It is likely to face stiff head winds from lawmakers who defend presidential authority to make decisions affecting national security without constantly seeking permission from Congress, and from the [Biden] administration itself," The Washington Post reports.


FREE MINDS

A deeply reported Buzzfeed News account of the alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) last September reveals that the FBI had not one, not two…but at least 12 confidential informants working the case: 

An examination of the case by BuzzFeed News also reveals that some of those informants, acting under the direction of the FBI, played a far larger role than has previously been reported. Working in secret, they did more than just passively observe and report on the actions of the suspects. Instead, they had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. The extent of their involvement raises questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them.

A longtime government informant from Wisconsin, for example, helped organize a series of meetings around the country where many of the alleged plotters first met one another and the earliest notions of a plan took root, some of those people say. The Wisconsin informant even paid for some hotel rooms and food as an incentive to get people to come.

Another informant, an Iraq War veteran who was the second-in-command of the paramilitary militia that is accused of organizing the kidnapping plot, was directed by his FBI handlers to draw specific people into the conspiracy, according to a motion filed by one of the defendant's attorneys. All but one of the 14 people arrested in connection to the Whitmer kidnapping plot have pleaded not guilty.

The FBI has a long history of using informants to encourage and abet would-be domestic terrorists, only to sweep in and save the day at the last minute. The Whitmer kidnapping plot may belong on that list.


FREE MARKETS

North Carolina's state-run liquor store system is experiencing major shortages as price controls fail once again. Liquor stores are run at the county level, but state laws impose "a uniform pricing structure to protect against price gouging and untimely price hikes," The Charlotte Observer reports. State officials in charge of the monopolistic system are blaming supply chain issues and surging demand in the months after COVID-19 restrictions on bars and restaurants were lifted.

"We all are experiencing the supply and demand shortage," Zander Guy Jr., chairman of the North Carolina Alcoholic Beverage Control Commission, tells the paper.

Well, maybe not all of us. Across the border in South Carolina, where liquor stores are privately owned and free to change prices as needed to keep their shelves stocked, liquor store employees tell the Observer that they're seeing an increase in traffic from North Carolina residents who can't get their favorite booze at home.


QUICK HITS

• Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.) is still pushing for a vote on a $1.2 trillion infrastructure spending plan this week. Republicans are asking him to wait until Monday so they can review the final version of the bill, which is not yet public.

• Thomas Barrack, chairman of former President Donald Trump's inauguration committee, was arrested Monday and charged with serving as an unregistered foreign agent of the United Arab Emirates, among other crimes.

• Should unvaccinated Americans get paid for getting vaccinated?

• A Drug Enforcement Administration agent, Mark Ibrahim, is the first federal law enforcement official to be charged in connection with the January 6 riots at the U.S. Capitol. He appears to have worn his badge during the incident.

• Why does Jeff Bezos' rocket look like that?

• The Milwaukee Bucks won the NBA championship on Tuesday, as Greek immigrant Giannis Antetokounmpo became just the second player in NBA history to score 50 points in a title-clinching game. Unfortunately, that doesn't make their arena, built with more than $500 million in public subsidies, any less of a boondoggle.

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  1. A bipartisan trio of U.S. senators has introduced legislation that would curtail the executive branch’s powers over war authorizations, emergency declarations, and arms deals.

    Bipartisan? Are they expecting a third party to at some point own the White House?

    1. Tripartisan… you’ll like it!

      1. TryAndBePartisan?

      2. Bernie Bros approve of this message.

        If this bill passes, where does that land Bernie on the Libertarian Politicians’ Scale? (Where the Pauls rate about 3/4, Silent Cal a 5, and Trump a 10, natch)

        1. Socialists arent Libsrtarian. Its anathema. I know this comes as a shock to Millenial Woketarians

      3. A political three-way.

        1. So the public getting fucked both coming and going.

      4. Airtight!

    2. Pete DeFazio (Commie-OR) had a conniption fit over this, with a priceless take:

      Those things have to be in a 21st century bill. I’m not going to do ‘Eisenhower 8.0’ and repeat the mistakes of the last century,”

      What were those things?

      DeFazio argues the bipartisan plan doesn’t do enough to fight climate change and focuses too much on highways — instead of investing in alternatives like rail, cycling and pedestrian safety.

      Ironically, proposing 19th century transportation modes as a futuristic infrastructure plan would have gotten that person laughed out of the room in the post-WW2 era, but in Clown World, this sort of indulgence is taken seriously.

      1. Isn’t it all amazing. The twenty-first century is shaping up to be humanity’s stupidest.

        1. I fully expect one of these balloonheads to eventually propose the return of horse-drawn wagons to the cities as urban transportation, in order to provide “good paying union jobs” cleaning up horse shit from the streets.

          1. “I fully expect one of these balloonheads to eventually propose the return of horse-drawn wagons to the cities as urban transportation…”

            With one minor change: the horses will be unionized.

            1. Horses fart. That’s a non-starter.

          2. Shovel ready!

        2. Probably due to the food additives.

  2. …the FBI had not one, not two…but at least 12 confidential informants working the case…

    Being a fed is good work if you can manufacture it.

    1. So you’re saying manufacturing isn’t dead in this country?

    2. And each of them came up with a list of 11 potential suspects.

      1. And each got to claim 11 arrests for their home agency. Thats a total of 132 arrests for Team America!

    3. Excerpt from one of the agent’s reports has been leaked. The opening paragraph

      The suburb of Saffron Park lay on the sunset side of London, as red and ragged as a cloud of sunset. It was built of a bright brick throughout; its sky-line was fantastic, and even its ground plan was wild. It had been the outburst of a speculative builder, faintly tinged with art, who called its architecture sometimes Elizabethan and sometimes Queen Anne, apparently under the impression that the two sovereigns were identical. It was described with some justice as an artistic colony, though it never in any definable way produced any art. But although its pretensions to be an intellectual centre were a little vague, its pretensions to be a pleasant place were quite indisputable. The stranger who looked for the first time at the quaint red houses could only think how very oddly shaped the people must be who could fit in to them.

      1. “It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times”.

  3. We all are experiencing the supply and demand shortage…

    Yeah, don’t lay this on the demand side.

    1. Liquor injustice?

    2. The important thing is to avoid those “untimely price hikes”.

    3. It was bad enough when they’d blame this kind of thing on “market failure”, but when you start attacking fundamental laws of economics you definitely are just making shit up.

    4. Here’s where The Good Old North State needs to legalize moonshiners. I mean if they’re going to do it with liquor manufacturers making hand sanitizer, why not with potables too?

  4. “as Greek immigrant Giannis Antetokounmpo became just the second player in NBA history to score 50 points in a title-clinching game”

    Do you still have any friends or family or coworkers who aren’t convinced that unlimited, unrestricted immigration is the ideal policy? Just have this conversation with them:

    YOU: Hey, do you support open borders?
    THEM: I’m not sure. Actually, probably not.
    YOU: Do you like sports?
    THEM: I guess so.
    YOU: Did you hear the second player in NBA history to score 50 points in a title-clinching game is an immigrant?
    THEM: Really?! I changed my mind! Heck yes I support open borders!!!!!!

    #ImmigrationAboveAll

    1. “Legal immigration and someone border jumping or illegally staying on a tourist visa is the exact same thing, and should work for cheap in my factory” – t. Charles Koch Reason

    2. Hey, those were points that some real American could have scored!

      1. In the CCP controlled NBA shouldn’t just the NBA get awarded all the points?

  5. Republicans are asking him to wait until Monday so they can review the final version of the bill, which is not yet public.

    Are they checking to see if the Dems put in any shenanigans or if their shenanigans got left out?

    1. Imagine wanting to actually read it. I can’t.

      1. That’s why it should be a meta-law that every bill be read aloud to every congresscreature before they can vote on it.

        1. They’d probably just zone out and stop listening after the first sentence.

          1. They’d just go across the street and get some real work done, money laundering fundraising.

        2. Meh. The Colorado constitution requires that bills be read aloud in session if requested. This is what happened:

          The state supreme court did not tell the legislature how to comply with the legal requirement, but did conclude Democrats crossed a legal line in 2019 when they transferred the reading of the bill from human staff to a bank of computers set to read different sections of the legislation simultaneously at 650 words per minute. The moment led to a truly bizarre chipmunk-like sound emanating throughout the Senate chamber.

          1. I bet that was not the only moment a chipmunk-like sound emanated from that Senate.

    2. Why not both?

    3. “Our shenanigans are cheeky and fun, whereas their shenanigans are tragic and wrong. Which makes them not shenanigans at all, really. Evil shenanigans!”

      1. Yep, basic congressional bull shit rebranded as rainbow unicorn jelly beans or flaming satanic ebola turds. But unity, right?

  6. This is what we call, “shaking down a mark” in the streets. “Nice military industry you got there, it would be a shame to lose it”. ” Bush, Obama, and Biden ain’t the only ones in this racket, you know”.

    1. The Vercotti Brothers did that on Monty Python’s Flying Circus. No, no! This sketch is too silly!

  7. “They had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. The extent of their involvement raises questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them.”

    The FBI is out of control and has been for a long time.

    The term of the day is “agent provocateur”.

    An agent provocateur . . . is a person who commits or who acts to entice another person to commit an illegal or rash act or falsely implicate them in partaking in an illegal act, so as to ruin the reputation or entice legal action against the target or a group they belong to or are perceived to belong to.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

    The chances of their being no agent provocateur activity during January 6th are whatever they are. We know from the documents that Parler’s attorneys released to Congress that the FBI was well informed by Parler of the activities that were being planned for January 6th and that it would not be peaceful. Some people might take that as a sign of incompetence. I guess there are other explanations. I’d sat it’s all speculation at this point except it isn’t.

    . . . not if the FBI has 12 agent provocateurs working the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot.

    1. This isn’t new. How many young Muslim men have the FBI radicalized in the past 20 years?

      1. I remember an old joke (possibly in Doonesbury?) where every member of a radical group was actually an infiltrator from one organization or another.

        1. Job (and agency) security.

        2. There was an episode of Get Smart from back in the day when that happened.

    2. The FBI is an expert on criminals. They create them every day.

    3. Since every crazy conspiracy theory ever has turned out to be spoilers in the last year and a half…

    4. This is syraight up gk Chesterton, the man who was thursday

    5. The FBI investigator in charge of this plot was transferred to DC and was key in investigating Jan 6th groups prior to Jan 6th.

      1. Because of course he was.

    6. Just as I posted here several days after several MI kidnap plotters were arrested, corrupt deep state FBI agents orchestrated and funded the kidnap plot (to protect Witmer from justified criticisms of her economically disastrous lockdowns, and to frame and falsely portray GOP as evil terrorists).

      Several weeks ago Tucker Carlson revealed that a dozen people who illegally entered the Capitol on Jan 6 protest (and appeared to be ringleaders who broke windows and doors and invited Trump supporters to follow them into the Capitol) have not been charged with any crime, which indicates that they too were corrupt FBI/DOJ agents who actually orchestrated the break in that day.

      1. Several weeks ago Tucker Carlson revealed

        Because we can trust Tucker Carlson is telling the whole truth and isn’t leaving anything out of his truthfully truthful analysis.

        https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

        Just read U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil’s opinion, leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox’s lawyers: The “‘general tenor’ of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not ‘stating actual facts’ about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in ‘exaggeration’ and ‘non-literal commentary.’ ”

        She wrote: “Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson’s reputation, any reasonable viewer ‘arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism’ about the statement he makes.”

        Vyskocil, an appointee of President Trump’s, added, “Whether the Court frames Mr. Carlson’s statements as ‘exaggeration,’ ‘non-literal commentary,’ or simply bloviating for his audience, the conclusion remains the same — the statements are not actionable.”

        1. Really? Citing NPR?
          Welcome back my frie3nds, to the show that never ends – – – – – – – –

          1. How old are you?

            ELP fucking sucks

        2. Typical Jeff, he’ll believe a US attorney or US district judge first because they aren’t possibly suspect being the same part of DOJ structure.

          Because it’s Carlson, instead of say Stelter or some other schmuck on CNN or PMSNBC, fatty jeffster the liberal turd can’t come to grips with the reality of the situation.

        3. Was he wrong in this individual case though?

        4. Well, using that logic, we know we cant believe a single word that you type.
          So why dont you begone from this forum forever, lying shithead?

          1. using that logic, we know we cant believe a single word that you type.

            Well, to be fair we really can’t.

  8. “Working in secret, they did more than just passively observe and report on the actions of the suspects. Instead, they had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. The extent of their involvement raises questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them.”

    Another one of chemjeff and White Mike’s huge talking points turns out to be just another Deep State fiddle. Pretty much every rhetorical weapon those two wield turns into a floppy turd.

    1. They have bought into the lefty narrative so deeply and for so long that they have succumbed to the sunk cost fallacy. The best part was after 1/6 when WK lost his mind and called everyone a traitor for a whole week. Good times…

      1. Here’s a Mike Laursen blast from the past on just that subject:

        The White Knight
        January.6.2021 at 5:07 pm

        It is now crystal clear Trump is monster. If you still support him, you are a bad person. There is no ambiguity, no wiggle room anymore.

        1. You’re a monster ML for supporting Mormons like Chuck.

          And your whole compulsive lying bs…

          1. I one-hundred-percent support Mormons like Chuck, and the only people doing lying around here is the chemleft continuum and their sarcasmic supporters.

            1. So you admit I never said the anti Semitic tripe you claimed I said?

              I will stop posting here if you can cite me saying what you claimed I said.

              I’m sure your Mormon pals will appreciate it.

              Mormons worship a discredited pervert con artist and want to force their beliefs and lifestyle on everyone.

              They’re fucking despicable.

          2. asshole gets flagged

  9. Thomas Barrack, chairman of former President Donald Trump’s inauguration committee, was arrested Monday and charged with serving as an unregistered foreign agent of the United Arab Emirates, among other crimes.

    Saudis or no one!

    1. What is the answer redacted from the 9/11 report?

  10. Should unvaccinated Americans get paid for getting vaccinated?

    Ha, yes. A huge fuck you to those who got vaccinated early would be perfect payback for their smug scolding.

    1. Call me when it hits 5 figures*, then we can talk.

      *despite what others say, this libertarian isn’t greedy. If I were I’d hold out for 6 to 7 figures.

  11. A Drug Enforcement Administration agent, Mark Ibrahim, is the first federal law enforcement official to be charged in connection with the January 6 riots at the U.S. Capitol.

    Learn how to deep state, fed.

    1. They can charge him all they want, the courts are just going to grant him qualified immunity. Right?

    2. A DEA Agent at the January 6th dogpile? Talk about ‘Deplorable.’

      And named Ibrahim? Does he use the techniques of Turkish prisons or the Saudis to deal with drug offenders?

  12. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/biden-admin-promotes-radical-group-pushing-critical-race-theory-in-schools/ar-AAMovgt?ocid=uxbndlbing

    Biden admin promotes radical group pushing critical race theory in schools

    “But in the materials referenced by the Department of Education, the group outlines how “Abolitionist Teachers” should guide students toward “Abolitionist” social and emotional learning.”

    “In addition to finding educators committed to disrupting Whiteness, the guide states that teachers should remove “all punitive or disciplinary practices that spirit murder Black, Brown, and Indigenous children.”

    “The Abolitionist Teaching Network’s guide also lists abolitionist teachers’ “demands,” which include “[f]ree, antiracist therapy for White educators and support staff.” Additionally, it states that teaching and learning standards, as well as teacher evaluations, should be “grounded in the pursuit of Black, Brown, and Indigenous liberation, criticality, excellence, and joy.”

    Looking forward to my free, state-provided (mandated) antiracist therapy.

    1. But that’s not real CRT, so nothing to see there.

    2. Firmly grounded in post-modernist bullshit. It’s why they want to move away from IQ (not that it is super useful) but look at peoples EQ (emotional quotient…which is not an actual measure but a post-modernist invention to make stupid people feel better about themselves).

      We cant grade and evaluate kids on if they can do math. That’s whiteness, thats racist. We need to evaluate them on how itll make them feel free of white supremacy, that’s all that matters. So what if they think 2+2=5? Giving them an F would advance white supremacy. And besides, who’s to say that 2+2 cant equal 5?

      And behavior in the classroom? We cant punish black/brown kids for misbehaving or fighting with other students. That would only make them think we are grooming them for a life as victims to the criminal justice system.

      They want a weak society full of uneducated sheep. You will get points in class for reciting the antiracism tenets from Ibram X Kendi, and appropriately self flagellating in accordance with Robin Deangelo’s writings. No one cares if you cant do math or chemistry. Those arent important, just that you tried. But you better get in line for the privilege-walk on time. You wont function very well in high end jobs, but hey, leave that stuff up to the government, theyll take care of the difficult stuff. You just focus on being a good anti-racist and cash your UBI check.

      1. I’ve been assured by several NEA commenters in the local paper that all this is far right wing Republican nonsense; that the only goal of CRT is to make students aware that white people were mean to colored peoples during the history of North America.

        1. that the only goal of CRT is to make students aware that white people were mean to colored peoples during the history of North America.

          And if you oppose this kind of racial shaming in schools, it’s because you only want jingoistic Americanism to be taught.

      2. We cant grade and evaluate kids on if they can do math. That’s whiteness, thats racist. We need to evaluate them on how itll make them feel free of white supremacy, that’s all that matters. So what if they think 2+2=5? Giving them an F would advance white supremacy. And besides, who’s to say that 2+2 cant equal 5?

        Will you knock it off with this nonsense? No one is advocating that “math is racist”. What *some* people are discussing is the methods of math instruction, along with the methods for instruction in every subject. Which is beyond the pure science of mathematics itself, and has to do with pedagogy.

        If the traditional methods of math instruction, or instruction in any subject, disproportionately fail one group of students, we could do one of two things (or both):

        1. Shame the underperforming set of students that they just need to work harder.
        2. Adjust the traditional methods to better accommodate different groups of students.

        But when anyone suggests option #2, then we have demagogues like the author of your quoted article, claiming that OMG IT’S CRITICAL RACE THEORY WE MUST BAN IT. As if there is one and only one ‘correct’ way to teach math, and people who don’t learn math in the ‘correct’ way are deficient and deserve to fail.

        I dare you to find any quotation from anyone anywhere who claims that if a student cannot do grade-level-appropriate math, then that student ought to be passed anyway owing solely to skin color.

        More and more it seems as though those most opposed to CRT in schools, are really demanding stricter conformity. And of course the conformity that they are demanding is a conformity to the (White) majority’s ways of doing things. People who don’t conform, they ought to be shamed and failed until they do things the “correct” way, or at least a way that the majority deems is within a narrow set of possibilities.

        There is no one single correct way to teach math to all students at every time. Why pretend that there is?

        1. Just admit that you are evil because you are white and give all of your money and posetuons to black people then kill yourself, because being white you can never be a good person

        2. “I dare you to find any quotation from anyone anywhere who claims that if a student cannot do grade-level-appropriate math, then that student ought to be passed anyway owing solely to skin color.”

          https://nypost.com/2019/06/29/critics-cry-grade-inflation-at-nyc-schools-as-students-pass-without-meeting-standards/

          “At the Science School for Exploration and Discovery, MS 224 in the Bronx, an impressive 94 percent of students in grades 6-8 passed their math classes in the 2017-18 school year.

          But how much math they actually mastered is questionable.

          Only 2 percent of those same Mott Haven students — nearly all Hispanic and black from poor or low-income families — passed the state math exams,”

          Clearly they are being passed without mastery of the material.

          1. https://freewestmedia.com/2020/06/05/university-agrees-that-black-students-should-graded-differently/

            “Students at the University of Washington are demanding that black students should not face difficult exams and time constraints because they are too “busy fighting for [their] rights to sit down and study”.”

            “And the university thinks it is a good idea: It is currently advising professors to pass black students on the basis of race after an online petition gathered more than 26 000 signatures.”

            “You need to encourage and demand professors to accommodate their black students during this time. If UW truly understands our pain, UW will be a part of alleviating it,”

            “Nicole McNichols, UW Psychology Professor told Campus Reform that she supported the move. “Obviously, I support the petition and absolutely believe the accommodations it requests should be honored by all faculty.”

            1. This says nothing about anyone claiming “Math is racist”. Try again.

          2. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gates-foundation-behind-effort-to-end-white-supremacy-in-math-instruction-by-eliminating-need-for-students-to-show-work/ar-BB1dNSPV

            ““A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction is an integrated approach to mathematics that centers Black, Latinx, and Multilingual students in grades 6-8, addresses barriers to math equity, and aligns instruction to grade-level priority standards,” an introduction to the group’s website reads. “The Pathway offers guidance and resources for educators to use now as they plan their curriculum, while also offering opportunities for ongoing self-reflection as they seek to develop an anti-racist math practice. The toolkit ‘strides’ serve as multiple on-ramps for educators as they navigate the individual and collective journey from equity to anti-racism.”

            “Included on the site is a lesson on “dismantling racism in mathematics instruction,” which decries racist behaviors such as the “focus” on “getting the ‘right’ answer,” requiring students to “show their work,” and “independent practice” ”

            ““White supremacy culture infiltrates math classrooms in everyday teacher actions,” the lesson says. “Coupled with the beliefs that underlie these actions, they perpetuate educational harm on Black, Latinx, and multilingual students”

            1. Oh, awesome. More ‘LatinX’ nomenclature that the Latinos/Latinas on either side of our border rightfully recognize and soundly reject as white supremacy.

            2. The dipshit said show it ONE! Not three. You racist.

              CB

            3. “Included on the site is a lesson on “dismantling racism in mathematics instruction,” which decries racist behaviors such as the “focus” on “getting the ‘right’ answer,” requiring students to “show their work,” and “independent practice” ”

              And you are just proving my point for me here if you think this constitutes anyone thinking that “math is racist”. It is the MATH INSTRUCTION. Do you understand the difference? I’m beginning to think that you don’t.

              the “focus” on “getting the ‘right’ answer,”

              And by the way, this part has nothing to do with racism or anything. Focusing too much on ‘getting the right answer’ can be destructive because you can inadvertently teach kids that all that matters is arriving at the right answer without regards to the method achieved in doing so. That is HARMFUL in the long run to kids when they are learning math, which is just as much about algorithms and methods, as it is about numbers and equations. I disagree that it is “racist” to focus on ‘getting the right answer’, but I do agree that teachers shouldn’t do it too much. Do you? What do you think math education is really like, anyway? Do you think it is just kids memorizing multiplication tables?

          3. Clearly they are being passed without mastery of the material.

            Even if true – did they pass due to RACE?

        3. “…There is no one single correct way to teach math to all students at every time. Why pretend that there is?”

          jeff’s goalposts just made a pass at 3.421 and 335.2MPH!

          1. He did the best he could, he moved the goalposts, and argued against a strawman he created.

        4. And I’ll point out the 2 + 2 = 5 Internet meme is something nobody is actually proposing be taught in schools, but it sure does come up a lot as a conservative talking point.

          1. Its a stand in for the post-modern bullshit that is being pushed, and the focus on students of color not having to find the right answer because white supremacy.

            Just because they aren’t stating it verbatim doesn’t mean they aren’t pushing for it indirectly.

            Try and keep up (or were you fully aware of your BS and just making a blatantly disingenuous argument?)

            1. The latter, and hoping someone (other than his mother) would take it to be ‘clever’.

            1. White Mike absolutely knows that the 2 + 2 = 5 isn’t an Internet meme, and people are totally proposing it be taught in schools.
              It’s part of his “no sane person”, “let’s be reasonable” gaslighting process.

              People forget that the people working the Chemjeff, Tony, SPBP2 and Mike socks are paid to shill and shitpost. Mike’s working straight out of a manual.
              Only sarcasmic is stupid enough to shill DNC talking points for free.

        5. Fat boy is desperately flailing here

        6. “No one is advocating that “math is racist””

          In case you missed it above.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gates-foundation-behind-effort-to-end-white-supremacy-in-math-instruction-by-eliminating-need-for-students-to-show-work/ar-BB1dNSPV

          “Included on the site is a lesson on “dismantling racism in mathematics instruction,” which decries racist behaviors such as the “focus” on “getting the ‘right’ answer,” requiring students to “show their work,” and “independent practice” ”

          ““White supremacy culture infiltrates math classrooms in everyday teacher actions,” the lesson says. “Coupled with the beliefs that underlie these actions, they perpetuate educational harm on Black, Latinx, and multilingual students”

          You really need to start taking a look at what’s going on in the news, or google it, before trying to get in an argument about it. I have disproven multiple of your previous arguments with a very quick google search. This isnt about “we just need a better form of instruction” its literally calling showing work / correct answers white supremacist.

          No matter what form of instruction (which again, thats a strawman that you created, no one cares if you teach math differently) you have to show what you did to get the answer. Otherwise you cant prove how you came to it, or that you didnt just copy it. And, seriously the correct answer is racist / white supremacist? That’s not “we just want to teach differently” its “it’s OK for you to get the wrong answer, focus on the correct answer is racism” which is absolutely a different (and fucked up), and infantilizes blacks.

          1. White Mike and Jeff are nothing but Democrat shills. They push nothing but narrative even when given dozens of primary resources showing them to be wrong.

          2. You haven’t disproved shit. Your little post doesn’t say anything about MATH being racist. It is about MATH INSTRUCTION allegedly being racist. You obviously don’t know the difference, don’t care to know, and all you want is some lame narrative to make your opponents out to be not just wrong, but ridiculous laughingstocks.

            No matter what form of instruction (which again, thats a strawman that you created, no one cares if you teach math differently)

            That is not a strawman. THAT IS LITERALLY THE ENTIRETY OF THE SUBSTANCE that you have described. It is about the form of instruction. The REAL strawman is your claim that “math is racist”. NO ONE IS FUCKING SAYING THAT. NO ONE is saying “hey let’s teach kids 2+2=5, because 2+2=4 is racist”. What people are ACTUALLY saying is, “what is a better way to teach 2+2=4 to all of the math learners out there?” And you go apeshit when someone proposes a method that you don’t like, and so you equate the METHOD of learning math with MATH itself.

            1. “What people are ACTUALLY saying is, “what is a better way to teach 2+2=4 to all of the math learners out there?”

              No they arent. Literally no one cares how you teach the kid to arrive at 4 (aka your shitty strawman). They care (and I do) that they need to be taught that it is important to arrive at 4. And that they write down on paper how they got there. You put 7 on the paper and no work? You get the problem wrong.

              My beef is exactly what that article says. They are making “show your work” and “correct answers” a white supremacist thing. It’s an absolute joke. It is infantilizing black kids so they dont feel bad. Black parents dont want this shit. Put your white savior complex away.

              Making these concepts “evil white” values is literally going to hurt blacks. Adherence to these things is literally why Asians do so well.

              I seriously cant tell if you are disingenuous, arguing minutia to see if you can technically get a point, or you are just flat out dense. But seriously, you cant see how telling kids that the correct answer is white supremacist is going to be bad for so many reasons?

          3. See here is what is going on, not just by you but by the Chris Rufos out there.

            You see people you don’t like, teaching kids in ways that you don’t like. You cannot explain why you don’t like it on the precise merits of *what they are actually doing*, so you invent a strawman caricature of what your opponents are doing, that is close enough to what they are actually doing to the casual observer, that makes them out to be, when they are not ridiculous, then monstrous. You do that because it is a cheap and easy way to enflame demagogic passions. Very few people get outraged about some new math instruction method that may be questionable. But they will get outraged if it is portrayed as RACIST INDOCTRINATION, or they will roll their eyes in disbelief if it is portrayed as THEY THINK MATH IS RACIST, THAT’S SO DUMB.

            You CANNOT be honest, because honesty does not drive fear and passions. Dishonesty and demagoguery does. That is what Team Red has done throughout this entire CRT debate and that is what you continue to do, by continuing to push this lie that anyone seriously believes “math is racist”, when what is being discussed are methods of math INSTRUCTION that have nothing to do with the validity of the underlying mathematical facts and principles involved.

            You’re just a useful idiot for Team Red’s demagoguery.

      3. not that it is super useful

        It’s useful but, like most facts/descriptive statistics, not prescriptive. What’s hilarious is that there are multiple studies demonstrating that high IQ correlates with high EQ but not the opposite. Similarly, and more relevantly, if you take a group of teachers, their students’ achievement is more firmly and positively correlated with the *teacher*’s IQ than it is with the teacher’s EQ. So, a high IQ doesn’t guarantee the ability to change a tire or the ability to teach someone how to change a tire, but a generally higher IQ population is both more likely/capable of both learning how to do so *and* teaching others how to (with a plausible underlying explanation) while a higher EQ population doesn’t even suppose to carry such a correlation, much less any sort of justification/explanation.

        If IQ is a meaningless statistic, EQ is even more disinformative. Rather overtly a meaningless statistic meant to obfuscate in favor of low IQ people.

        1. In general EQ is something I have seen liberal arts majors rally behind when they are pretty certain they don’t have a high IQ.

          Its the new “well I may not be BOOK smart, but im STREET smart” argument for people that think them reading the latest woke bullshit puts them on an even playing field with someone that excels in math/physics/problem-solving.

          1. It’s exceptionally funny; the large group of people who tend to reject gender as descriptive/definitive a social construct embrace EQ despite the fact that the latter is far more socially constructed, far less definitive or predictive, and far more oppressive/restrictive if applied.

    3. “…social and emotional learning…”

      Dafuk?

    4. None of this is taught in schools, only discussed in university graduate courses. Trust the experts, like Jeff, and not Tucker Carlson or the parents whose kids are being taught CRT in elementary school

      1. None of this is taught in schools, only discussed in university graduate courses.

        And, since the 60s, the Universities were obligated to tell the administration(s) suggesting how to educate their students to fuck off. The entire point of a ‘liberal’ arts education is that it’s supposed to be free of social prescription, not subject to it.

    5. “all punitive or disciplinary practices that spirit murder Black, Brown, and Indigenous children.”

      WTF does that even mean? I assume the words ‘spirit murder’ mean ‘to murder BIPOC spirits’ but that doesn’t really clarify how you identify/define ‘spirit murder’ as distinct from muddling martinis.

      1. ‘spirit murder’ = ‘makes them feel bad’

        1. But even that doesn’t make sense. ‘Murder’ requires/implies intent, ‘feel bad’ doesn’t and, the other way as well, I suspect you’d be loathe to find a teacher that would prefer to murder spirits or engender bad feelings rather than teach/reinforce a/the lesson.

          Maybe ‘spirit murder’ = ‘giving the impression of potentially making someone feel bad’ but, at that point, the definition is so nuanced as to be meaningless.

          1. You’re talking about SJW’s here. Words are intentionally misused to achieve whatever their goal is at the moment. Definitions are conflated and expanded and twisted into whatever gross and exaggerated form they believe will have the most effect. It doesn’t have to make sense, or even be consistent.

            Remember this past year:
            ‘Speech is violence’
            ‘Silence is violence’
            ‘Bi-Partisan’
            ‘Debunked’
            ‘Equity’
            ‘Anti-Racism’
            ‘Anti-Fascism’

            If you tell a student they are incorrect about something, you have lowered their self-esteem. They feel bad, deflated – they have less motivation than normal or something. It’s all very depressing to them. They are depressed, they feel dead on the inside. Spirit Murder.

            1. If you tell a student they are incorrect about something, you have lowered their self-esteem.

              And that’s my point. If you spew verbal nonsense, my choices are to ask you to clarify or ignore you.

              If the student is incorrect, which is the better option chancing hurting their feelings or simply allowing them to be wrong. If you spew magical bullshit about telling them they’re wrong without hurting their feelings, presuming you don’t just want puppies and rainbows while students are encouraged to underachieve, you’ll have to clarify about the algorithm for generating magical bullshit. If you can’t clarify about the algorithm for generating magical bullshit, you need to get someone (with a higher IQ/EQ) who can.

    6. If this is who wants to run Gummint Skoolz, then that right there is every reason to abolish them.

    7. Spirit murder?

  13. Why does Jeff Bezos’ rocket look like that?

    Seed the heavens!

    1. You’re familiar with the song “Hole in the Sky?” Bezos just wanted to fuck it.

      1. Look up the Kurt Vonnegut short story, “The Big Space Fuck”.

    2. As for the booster, engineers work to minimize its mass, making it as small as possible. “It is easier to balance a long and skinny cylinder than it is to balance a thicker, fatter cylinder,” Forczyk said.

      I have to assume either the reporter, the editor, or Mr. Forczyk was drunk if they let this statement pass. As anyone who has tried to balance a straw, a pencil, or a toothpick on its end and then compared it to balancing a drinking glass, a shampoo bottle, or a Quaker oatmeal box on its end would know.

    3. Too many viewings of Austin Powers?

  14. The Wisconsin informant even paid for some hotel rooms and food as an incentive to get people to come.

    Ah yes, the Eric Cartman method of getting people to come to your shitty meeting. “More people will come if they think we have punch and pie!”

  15. The Biden administration has dropped its opposition to Nord 2, which both the Obama administration and the Trump administration opposed. Biden’s move can be criticized for a number of good reasons.

    1) Security interests.

    As Germany become more reliant on Russia for energy, they become less reliable allies. If their NATO responsibilities require them to take action against Russia in the future, will they be reluctant to fulfill their treaty obligations if it cuts off a significant supply of their own energy?

    Meanwhile, what does this mean for the smaller, weaker, more easily threatened countries the pipelines would have gone through without Germany? Is Russia more likely to encroach on them now that they don’t need to run a pipeline through their countries anymore?

    Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, they’re all NATO members now. They’re our responsibility by ratified treaty. Did life just get less secure in the Baltic countries? Is this in the best interests of the United States security or NATO?

    2) Didn’t Biden just kill the Keystone pipeline over greenhouse gas concerns less than a month ago?

    Don’t greenhouse gases have the same impact when they’re released in Germany? What does Biden have against Americans?

    The purpose of progressivism is to use the coercive power of government to force us to make sacrifices for what progressives say is the greater good, and the point of progressive foreign policy is to force Americans to make sacrifices for the good of people in other countries.

    Dear America,

    All you selfish motherfuckers can eat shit.

    Sincerely,

    Joe Biden
    President of the United States

    1. “The U.S. and Germany have reached an agreement allowing completion of the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline, officials from both countries say”

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-german-deal-on-russian-natural-gas-pipeline-expected-soon-11626813466?

    2. The neighboring province over is seeing it’s economy collapse because Biden and Trudeau have effectively blocked it from getting its product to market.
      Alberta spent billions trying, and it’s heavy oil operations are a hell of a lot cleaner and more environmentally friendly than Nigeria, Venezuela, Russia or even Norway and Scotland’s.

      In a sense, after all the promises and agreements violated, and in light of it’s Russian approval, Biden’s actions were an act of war.

      1. Refine your shitty tar sand oil yourself.

        1. turd lies. Always. If turd comments, it’s a lie or some other form of dishonesty.
          turd is too stupid to understand that.

        2. It is, you barely literate idiot. You’re still blocking transport… except on Warren Buffett’s trains. That’s still allowed for some mysterious reason.

    3. As Russia becomes more reliant on German money, they may be more reluctant to ruin that relationship by invading more countries. Keep your enemies close basically.

      1. Germany needs that oil a hell of a lot more than Russia needs German marks. They fucked their energy infrastructure by “going green” and now have to rely on a foreign adversary to ensure they don’t freeze to death in the winter.

      2. “they may be more reluctant to ruin that relationship by invading more countries”

        Because Molotov–Ribbentrop was never a thing.

      3. While what you’re saying is possible, it ignores what’s happening in Ukraine despite Nord 2 or the sizable Russian minorities in places like Estonia.

        1. As long as NATO and the Atlantic Council are around, “Russia” will be “invading” countries whenever its convenient for the Global Socialist Woke’s Party

      4. LOL. Man Sullum, you really do dig the bottom of the intellectual barrel.

        When it is cold in Winter, who has the upper hand?

  16. Another informant, an Iraq War veteran who was the second-in-command of the paramilitary militia that is accused of organizing the kidnapping plot, was directed by his FBI handlers to draw specific people into the conspiracy, according to a motion filed by one of the defendant’s attorneys.

    Slightly OT but I wonder what happens if the FBI tries to draw you into a “plot” but you don’t go for it.

    1. “Hey! This plot is *wrong*! I’m calling the FBI!”

    2. They suspend the rules of engagement, murder your family and settle out of court?

    3. So here’s my take on this:
      1) These guys are still responsible for their actions.
      2) This is just further evidence that the FBI hasn’t stopped a single fucking “terrorist” incident in the last 20 years that wasn’t one of their glow-ops that they were inciting themselves the whole time, in order to justify their budgets.

      1. RRWP
        1) These guys are still responsible for their actions.

        Those actions would have never occurred without the FBI’s help and money. its part of the plan to make certain groups look more dangerous than they are.

        1. Maybe if you’re going to become involved in a conspiracy to kidnap and murder a sitting governor, you should be more careful about whom you plot the operation with. If one or more of them are anything like “hey, Jeff met these guys Ray and Jackson down at the local bowling alley, and they’re interested in what we’re planning,” it’s probably a good idea to turn the lights off to see how bright Ray and Jackson are glowing.

      2. 1) These guys are still responsible for their actions.

        So were the Minute Men who conspired to prevent the seizure of the armory at Concord. If it turned out that their leaders were actually British agents, they would have all hanged.

        Whitmer is a tyrant. The people have the right to plot against tyrants. Until and unless they act on their own, they should not be punished.

        The FBI worked damned hard to convince these people they were part of a popular uprising. In a nation with a founding document that states that the People have a duty to overthrow tyrants, the role of the police should be to de-escalate. To show them they do not have support and to convince them with words rather than encourage them, entrap them and arrest them with guns. The actions of the FBI reinforce their conspiracy theories.

        1. So were the Minute Men who conspired to prevent the seizure of the armory at Concord. If it turned out that their leaders were actually British agents, they would have all hanged.

          Whitmer is a tyrant. The people have the right to plot against tyrants. Until and unless they act on their own, they should not be punished.

          This is a false equivalency. The former were conducting a political protest by destroying the property of a corporatist arm of the British government. The latter were conspiring to kidnap and possibly execute a state governor.

          If they really believed Whitmer posed that kind of threat–and I’m certainly sympathetic to that viewpoint, as she’s acted completely entitled and unaccountable for her actions in the last year–then if you’re going to actually get involved in a conspiracy to take her out, then 1) you better be damn sure about the nature of your associates, and 2) you also better be damn sure to be accountable for your actions if the whole operation falls apart. You may have gotten involved or escalated under false pretenses, but you still got involved, and if you get caught there’s going to be consequences for that.

          That’s why I find the “Trump mind-tricked us!” defense by some of the Jan 6 protesters to be so laughable. You’re grown-ass men and women, and you should also know damn well that your political team has NO support whatsoever by the nation’s cathedral institutions for something like this. If you WERE going to “stop the steal,” then you should have at least made it fucking count instead of wandering around the Capital like a bunch of tourists, because the media and the government are not going to give you the type of cover and apologetics that they gave the BLM and Antfia rioters last year.

          1. This is a false equivalency. The former were conducting a political protest by destroying the property of a corporatist arm of the British government.

            Um, you seem to be describing the Boston Tea Party. The Minute Men were responding to the order from British Governor Thomas Gage to seize the weapons and powder stored in Concord.

            Gage inflamed tensions between the colonies and the mother country and practiced harsh enforcement of British law. He drafted the Coercive Acts, a series of laws intended to punish colonists for deeds of defiance against the King, such as the Boston Tea Party.

            I have never researched how Gage spent the war, but I would hazard a guess he was never once in a position to be captured. But if he had been, it would almost certainly have been attempted.

            Considering that Whitmer is a governor who used a state of emergency to impose her own will upon the people (with support for her position from federal agencies and courts), suspended natural rights, and punished protestors, I would say the analogy is spot on.

            That being said, I noted that the Minute Men would most certainly have been hanged had they been responding to a call from British agents instead of Paul Revere.

            The FBI actually facilitated these guys getting together. They could just as easily have tried to make things more difficult and used their agents to sow doubt instead of foment dissent. They sought out disgruntled men of questionable intelligence, gave them rope, tied the noose for them, and then have the gall to say, “Look, they hung themselves.”

            That’s why I find the “Trump mind-tricked us!” defense by some of the Jan 6 protesters to be so laughable.

            On this I agree wholeheartedly. I also have little doubt it is the only defense that is being allowed. Say you are sorry and blame Trump, or no plea bargain for all the ridiculous piled on charges. For anyone who refuses to capitulate, the process is the punishment.

            1. Um, you seem to be describing the Boston Tea Party. The Minute Men were responding to the order from British Governor Thomas Gage to seize the weapons and powder stored in Concord.

              Ah, yes, my bad.

              They sought out disgruntled men of questionable intelligence, gave them rope, tied the noose for them, and then have the gall to say, “Look, they hung themselves.”

              What they did wasn’t any different than them inciting Arabs to plan a terrorist attack back in Aughts. The fact that their tactics are the same in both these instances says quite a lot about where their priorities currently lay.

              That’s why it’s incredibly stupid to try and pull one of these things off if you don’t have absolute knowledge of everyone involved. If you’ve never seen any of them before in your life, assume they glow and you’re probably getting set up.

              1. The fact that their tactics are the same in both these instances says quite a lot about where their priorities currently lay.

                Ah, yes! I see that we agree, we just get there by different paths.

                I have to admit to my compulsive need to show that government agents lying and plotting against the People is evil, whereas the People questioning and obstructing the government is an absolute necessity to secure freedoms.

      3. I’m not arguing that they’re not responsible for what they do. I’m just curious as to what the Feds do when a target actually does the responsible thing and refuses to commit the crime. If the FBI pushes harder to get someone to perform a criminal act it certainly throws an unflattering light on the FBI’s intentions.

        1. “I’m just curious as to what the Feds do when a target actually does the responsible thing and refuses to commit the crime.”

          Plants drugs and call the local/state cops.
          Accompanies the locals on a combined search operation and trashes the house looking for hidden stuff that ain’t there.
          Interviews the employer and all neighbors specifically about drug use and violent actions.
          Takes away any firearms.
          Asset forfeitures everything in sight.
          etc.
          “Nice little life you got here, be a shame if anything happened to it.

      4. 1) Which actions were actually taken? Most of them said they talked a big game but never had any intention of doing anything. It was all bar room banter per their testimony.

        1. Conspiracy to commit kidnapping and murder is against the law, and that’s going to go double if the sitting governor of a state is the target. You don’t have to actually do the deed if you’re involved in the planning.

          1. Conspiracy to commit kidnapping and murder is against the law, and that’s going to go double if the sitting governor of a state is the target.

            That runs counter to precedent. Plotting against a tyrant is the only reason this country exists. If the defense can demonstrate that the governor was behaving tyrannically, then plotting to usurp her should be legal up to the point it is actually executed against the will of the people.

            The Declaration of Independence is as much a founding document as the Constitution.

            1. Well, that’s all well and fine, but you have to actually pull it off and get people to accept the outcome for it to work.

              1. LOL! Yes, that is the trick, isn’t it?

    4. Ruby Ridge

      1. probably most riots in the 60’s & 70’s and probably most of the riots in the last two years. its well documented that it only takes few people to turn a protest into a riot, most likely FBI provacatures

    5. Obstruction, obvs.

    6. “Slightly OT but I wonder what happens if the FBI tries to draw you into a “plot” but you don’t go for it.”

      The FBI will respond by offering you even more money to entrap you into their political sting operation, pay off of hot looking call girl to seduce you and encourage you to join their illegal operation, and coerce (via threats) your friends and family to urge you to join their plot.

      If/when that fails to lure their innocent victims (and after the FBI wasted a million federal tax dollars), they’ll just move on to another political target (i.e. anyone who voted for Trump).

    7. You get the Randy Weaver treatment.

  17. Should unvaccinated Americans get paid for getting vaccinated?

    Should law-abiding Americans get paid for not committing crimes?

    1. Should law-abiding Americans get paid for not committing crimes?

      U!B!I! U!B!I! U!B!I!

  18. “Instead, they had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. The extent of their involvement raises questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them.”

    You think? SHOW ME THE MAN, MOTHER FUCKER!

  19. In Olympic news, the #1 ranked U.S. radfem activism team lost a soccer game to a much more attractive Swedish women’s team, 3-0.

    1. Did Sweden fill their team with 15 yo boys?

      1. Nope. Actual Swedish women, and not of the Greta Thunberg variety.

        1. Just ask a bunch of 15 year old boys which team they would rather play (with).

        2. “…and not of the Greta Thunberg variety”

          That would be a Swedish potato.

    2. This follows on US Basketball losing their first 2 games to sub top 20 teams. Go Woke Go Broke.

      1. But Steve Kerr made sure they were un-armed!

    3. is it wrong to root against a team in our uniform?

      1. Only if it actually is “our” uniform, and not the uniform of the fascists.

        1. chick soccer is a snooze-fest anyway, but the infusion of politics creates animosity

          1. Kind of like when Hope Solo was shooting her mouth off, and every time she kicked the ball the crowd would yell “ZIKAAAAAAA!!!!!”

            1. yes … also animosity *in me* towards what’s supposed to be my team

              Hope Solo was an anti-authority ray of sunshine I miss her.

              1. I don’t think she’d be welcome on the current team.

        2. We’re team USA uniforms made in China?

      2. It’s not like you’re in the stands in Tokyo rooting one way or the other, do whatever the fuck you want. If they didn’t suck so bad as to never have a chance of making the podium, I’d grant you permission to kneel in your living room during the playing of the national anthem. Feel better?

  20. “The new proposal would give Congress a stronger hand in future showdowns over how American troops are deployed or where American military gear is sold.”

    It seems to me that far too many Presidential powers (arms sales, sending troops overseas, etc.) require a two-thirds vote by Congress to undo. I would propose that the president should be required to garner two-thirds SUPPORT from Congress for such actions.

    1. Heinlein had a proposed government proposed where a third house could repeal any law by a 1/3 vote. The rationale being is 1/3 of the people didn’t like it, it was probably a bad law.

    2. Or they could repeal the war powers act, but that is too simple

  21. The National Security Powers Act is the result of a somewhat unlikely political alliance between Sens. Mike Lee (R–Utah), Chris Murphy (D–Conn.), and Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.). Rep. James McGovern (D–Mass.)

    Well, by the Ken standard of “bipartisan”, what this really means is that only Democrats are interested in restraining the government’s national security powers, since the only Republican signing on isn’t a member of the leadership, and so it may be fairly concluded that Democrats are pro-national-security-reform but Republicans are against it.

    Why don’t Republicans support reining in the Imperial Presidency? What is wrong with them???

    1. On the other hand, by the *correct* understanding of the term “bipartisan”, there is both Republican support and Democratic support for restraining the powers of the Imperial Presidency to wage unilateral war in the name of national security, and both sides deserve to be commended for this step.

      If Ken had any balls he would be man enough to admit that his previous ridiculous arguments about what the definition of “bipartisan” was, was just special pleading on behalf of Team Red in order to exculpate them from responsibility of their (already tepid) support for the infrastructure bill that’s going to be voted on today.

      But hey maybe Ken will double down and say that no, Mike Lee’s support for the National Security Reform Act doesn’t really count as “bipartisan” and praise Team Blue for leading the way on the National Security Reform Act. Since you know, it isn’t really “bipartisan”. We’ll see.

      1. What are you babbling about now, fatty? Some delusional argument you had in your head again?

      2. You literally had White Mike have to post 3 different definitions before he found one that defined it as you are choosing to use it. 2 out of 3 of the definitions were about cooperation and agreement between parties, not individuals of a party. How dumb are you?

    2. What are you on? The ones talking most about ending these war powers have been the GOP side with high end DNC members like Pelosi, Hillary, and Biden all supporting keeping the war powers.

      Do you even try to make sense?

      And Bipartisan does have a definition whether you like it or not. The noun in the definition is party, not individuals of a party.

    3. Well, by the Ken standard of “bipartisan”,

      GOP Ken needs to redefine terms and other peoples statements in order to “win” an argument.

      1. turd lies. Always. If turd comments, it’s an outright lie or some other form of dishonesty.
        And turd is too stupid to recognize that.

      2. I see you’re trying to take back the title of most stupid commenter.

      3. The fifty-center sockpuppet group really has it out for poor Ken. I haven’t seen them so mad in ages. He really destroyed your arguments, didn’t he?

    4. “Well, by the Ken standard of “bipartisan”, what this really means is that only Democrats are interested in restraining the government’s national security powers, since the only Republican signing on isn’t a member of the leadership, and so it may be fairly concluded…”

      sarc really has a couple of problems he needs to address:
      1) Ken is one of the many here who are far more intelligent than sarc can ever hope to be, and since sarc is incapable of addressing Ken’s arguments, sarc is fixated on beating the fantasized Ken which lives in sarc’s head. And sarc hopes the rest of us do not notice that imbecility.
      2) If one or two people point out that you’re a whiny, narcissistic piece of shit, they might be wrong. When most of those with whom you associate do, you ARE a whiny, narcissistic piece of shit.

      1. Sorry, this was aimed at jeff, but it pretty much applies to sarc also.

        1. sarcasmic wants to be Jeff, so…

          1. That is one of the saddest things I’ve read here, ML.

            1. When your life is so fucked up you’d rather be a obese Torontonian living in his parents basement…

  22. >>Instead, they had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception.

    Flowers. By. Irene. creates conspiracy and rides in on the white horses lol. Would be unbelievable if not straight from KGB

  23. It would require an affirmative vote in Congress to approve sales of American fighter jets, tanks, and other weapons of war totaling over $14 million—a key change from the current system that requires a veto-proof majority in Congress to block such deals.

    Am I naive in thinking this will do nothing but increase the number of such sales by whatever the current dollar amount divided by $14 million is?

    1. Small arms sales could be structured like that, but unless you’re planning on shipping a fighter jet in pieces it won’t work.

      Maybe they should take after the gun industry and just sell 80% complete F-16s. Now it’s not a sale that qualifies for that particular regulation.

      1. Small arms sales could be structured like that, but unless you’re planning on shipping a fighter jet in pieces it won’t work.

        Buy 2 $14M service contracts and get a free fighter jet!

        Seriously, I can’t really be this much smarter than the average person.

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            ***One month later, an order of 5_x_20mm_cannon_rounds_100.000_ea. arrives.***

          2. What does the customer loyalty program look like? Do I get airline miles or something?

    2. Selling military hardware to our allies is often the alternative to doing their fighting for them. It would be a mistake to make it easier for the president to invade a foreign country, under whatever pretense, than it is to get an act of Congress to sell military hardware to our nasty allies. This provision appears to be purpose built for neocons. They don’t want us to approve the sale of military hardware to our nasty allies. They want us to invade a country like Syria ourselves.

      1. P.S. Approving the sale of military hardware to a nasty dictatorship like the UAE, in exchange for them formally recognizing and entering into a strategic alliance with Israel to get us out of guaranteeing their security against Iran, was a stroke of genius by the Trump administration–and was absolutely in the best interests of American security. It may be a necessary step to get us out of the region.

        P.P.S. I’m not sure that regulating the approval of military sales by private contractors is a legitimate power of Congress. Declaring war is their power. Ratifying treaties is their power. Approving arms sales may be a legitimate role of the President–through his powers as the Commander-in-chief or expressed through his powers via the Department of State and the Department of Defense.

        1. Frankly, I don’t really have a problem with Congress being more involved given that American military hardware is some of the most advanced in the world so we should probably be a little more careful about who we ‘sell’ them too.

          I don’t have much of an issue with selling less military hardware to even allied nations, but of course as you pointed out elsewhere that’s contingent on neocons and their ilk not taking us into more wars as a result.

          All that being said, Congress doesn’t seem to have a problem rubber stamping actual wars with actual American casualties so I see it as likely they’d also rubber stamp selling weapons abroad regardless of their public statements of support or non-support of whatever regime they talk about on TV.

  24. It is likely to face stiff head winds from lawmakers who defend presidential authority to make decisions affecting national security without constantly seeking permission from Congress,

    Can someone please name these spineless bowls of jello who apparently blow hot air hurricanes?

  25. Once upon a time the POTUS wasn’t allowed to start wars. Then, the “checks & balances” on power failed and unconstitutional laws, were passed, approved by the SCOTUS appointed to rubber stamp their cronies, and the “brave & free” pretended not to notice they were neither. And another empire bites the dust.

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