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Joe Biden

The Stealthy Economic Radicalism of Biden's Boring Presidency

Even the president's most entrenched political opposition cannot seem to find much to engage or enrage. 

Peter Suderman | 6.30.2021 1:46 PM

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In the half a year that Joe Biden has been president, it has become something approaching conventional wisdom that he is a boring politician, running a boring presidency that is focused on enacting boring policies. Even his most entrenched political opposition cannot seem to find much to engage or enrage. 

A recent Atlantic article on the downturn in conservative publishing, for example, noted that it has been hard for right of center authors and editors to turn Biden into the sort of villain who moves books, and that his "relative dullness is his superpower." Similarly, a report in Axios this week declared that the "boring news cycle" had led to a downturn for partisan media. Opposition outlets usually see a boost when a new president from the opposing party settles in the White House; this time, that hadn't happened. "While the Biden administration has seen plenty of debate over policy," the Axios report said, "economics and a crisis at the border, personality-based controversy has largely been absent." 

Biden, in this narrative, is boring. And unless you are a wonk engaged in the minutiae of policy debate—how big is the output gap? Is the federal unemployment insurance bonus slowing the recovery? How much should we worry about inflation?—his policies are boring too. 

This is fair enough, in some ways: Compared to Donald Trump, who specialized in intemperate outbursts, bizarre personal fixations, and Twitter provocations perfectly calibrated to drive his opponents mad, Biden's presidential persona is a cloud of calm. But those pesky policy debates are, in fact, worth engaging, even if Biden has soft-sold their likely consequences. 

Consider Biden's big social-spending proposal, the American Families Plan, which promises a vast expansion of welfare spending that would put a majority of Americans on federal benefits—even when the economy is strong and the country is not in crisis. In a new working paper, the Hoover Institution's John F. Cogan and Daniel Heil find that the plan would add more than 6 million households, and more than 21 million Americans, to federal entitlement rolls—pushing the percentage of non-elderly American households receiving such entitlements past the 50 percent mark. Outside of possibly the pandemic years of 2020 and 2021 for which data is not yet available, they write, "this would be the first time in U.S. history that a majority of working age households are federal entitlement recipients." Biden wants to make a majority of prime age American households (even more) dependent on federal largesse, a sea-change in the relationship between individuals and the federal government. But I suppose that's boring in comparison to some crazy presidential tweet. 

Then there are Biden's tax plans which, even according to center-left analysts, would ultimately raise taxes on 60 percent of taxpayers — and possibly an even larger percentage of the middle class. This is in spite of Biden's repeated claims that no one making less than $400,000 a year will pay more in taxes. In theory, Biden keeps this pledge by raising taxes on corporations, not individuals. But even left-leaning economists agree that individuals eventually end up bearing some of that burden…but ah, sorry, I'm being boring again. 

Meanwhile, Biden's budget, if enacted in full with both the American Families Plan and the American Jobs Plan (his infrastructure proposal), would result in fewer jobs and a smaller economy after a decade, according to an estimate from the Tax Foundation. 

The point is that these sorts of plans, with their tax rate adjustments and opaque spending buckets and bureaucratic implementation schemes might seem boring—but if enacted, they will have serious consequences for both individual livelihoods and the broader economy in the relatively near future. 

The putative boringness of Biden's presidency has at least one real upside: Under the last few presidents, and Trump in particular, too many Americans have become raging political obsessives, viewing far too much of life through the lens of national politics. During the pandemic, as states shut down economic activities and a considerable amount of social life moved into highly politicized online spaces, that tendency only increased. America, or at least Extremely Online America, got the Facebook and Twitter version of cabin fever. 

Thankfully, as the pandemic ebbs and states reopen, that seems to be subsiding at least a little, which is one reason why partisan media has hit a slump. There is something genuinely healthy about turning away from vicious online political squabbling as a central mode of living. 

At the same time, that turn should not become a vehicle for a highly partisan, highly ideological overhaul of federal power. There is a stealth economic radicalism hidden by Biden's boring nature, and his very boringness has become a kind of strategic tool. Part of the problem, of course, is that too many Republicans, still entranced by the dying embers of Trump's presidency, are not all that interested in Biden's economic agenda. There is a deep failure on the part of the broader GOP, both its voters and its elected representatives, to engage productively on these issues. The GOP is engaged on the culture war, but not on the vast economic transformation that Biden is proposing. 

If anything, Republicans are actively looking for ways to endorse parts of Biden's agenda. Under Trump, Republicans endorsed precursors to many of the policies that Biden is now proposing. To the extent that Biden's economic agenda is meeting serious opposition it is from centrist economists long associated with the Democratic party. But wonky intraparty arguments about macroeconomic policy are, I suppose, the definition of boring politics. 

Boring, however, is not the same as irrelevant or unimportant or inconsequential. On the contrary, under the current president, the opposite is true. You may not be interested in Joe Biden. But the president, through his policies, is very much interested in you. 

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  1. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

    Biden's presidential persona is a cloud of calm increasing dementia.

    FTFY.

    1. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   4 years ago

      As much as I wanted Kamala Harris to win the 2024 election, now I'm willing to wait until 2028 just so Biden can serve two terms and prove his haters wrong.

      #BidenIsAsSharpAsEver

      1. NoVaNick   4 years ago

        He will likely be in a vegetative state by then, if he is still living

        1. Longtobefree   4 years ago

          Does he have something on the Clintons?

          1. daveca   4 years ago

            no hes still alive.

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      2. Bogart   4 years ago

        Biden only need be President until Jan 30 2023 0:01, at that point Kamala can finish Biden's term and have 2 full terms of her own.

      3. quaternion 2   4 years ago

        Two terms of Biden, followed by two terms of Harris would be a nightmare. If they had their way we would be living under a one party socialist state. Forget individual freedom, the government will give favors to the few elite party members running the country, while the rest of the country will be given favors according to immutable characteristics such as race, sexual orientation and gender. Climate change will be used as an excuse to confiscate property and to implement Orwellian surveillance of the public.

        Kamala Harris was raised by Marxist parents, don't expect a free country to survive a two term presidency of her or from this new radical Biden that has emerged from his alleged moderation.

    2. Quo Usque Tandem   4 years ago

      We are heading to perdition under the administration of the Grey Man.

    3. Moderation4ever   4 years ago

      What is amazing is that old man, dementia or not, can stand, talk and sound 10 times more coherent that the last President and many Republican members of Congress.

      1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

        Lol, you reek of embarrassment and desperation.

        Also explain this, and tell us why it's an improvement.

      2. Sevo   4 years ago

        "What is amazing is that old man, dementia or not, can stand, talk and sound 10 times more coherent that the last President and many Republican members of Congress."

        Not nearly as amazing as your assholish habit of lying, TDS-addled shit.

      3. R Mac   4 years ago

        Says the lefty that doesn’t recognize Marx quotes.

      4. daveca   4 years ago

        lying isnot a comment Troll

    4. J_West   4 years ago

      REASON on the Biden regime: "Nothing to see here folks, move along!"

  2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

    The Stealthy Economic Radicalism of Biden's Boring Presidency

    Stealthy? Lol? Is this where we claim what was clearly detailed on his campaign website was hidden from the view of normal people and therefore you can't blame us for voting for it?

    1. Longtobefree   4 years ago

      Promises made, promises kept.
      It's like the entire non-seditionist press never knew the democratic party had a platform accessible on the web.

    2. D-Pizzle   4 years ago

      People read and listen to what the MSM says about party platforms, not the actual platforms.

    3. Nardz   4 years ago

      This is where "journalists" and the rest of the gentry take their own bubble's neurosis as if it were normal and the general public's experience/feelings.
      Thus you get words like "boring" and "stealthy" because that is how it is to Suderman and his ilk. Their lives completely revolved around Trump as orangemanbad, they've lost the bulk of their meaning, and they didn't do the slightest bit of what their jobs supposedly require.
      Trump, a man who turned himself into a brand and often refers to himself in 3rd person, isn't half the narcissist of your typical gentry leftist and "journalist"

      1. Roberta   4 years ago

        No, Suderman really grooves to this stuff. He laments having such a tough job to interest the rest of us in it.

    4. Bluwater   4 years ago

      By stealthy, he means that MSM is ignoring it completely so that it passes unnoticed. Biden himself doesn't have to get a lot of legislation passed. The underlings in far flung departments merely have to enact new rules and shut the hell up about their implementation.

      How many people understand that the Federal government is working to eliminate single family zoning [aka the suburbs]? All under the auspices of racism and being green. If the Republicans were trying to eliminate urban multi-family housing, the country would be on fire. Yet the media is largely silent about the pressures the feds are putting on state and local governments by threatening to withhold their federal road funding.

    5. Mickey Rat   4 years ago

      To be fair, Biden did not know what policies he was running on that were detailed on his campaign website.

      1. Nardz   4 years ago

        He did know he had a hell of a fraud team working in his favor though

    6. criticaljeff racial theorist   4 years ago

      I was told that Republicans keep pouncing, especially over non-issues like the wait lists at the migrant welcome love structures and the non-teaching of non-CRT and the $6T human infrastructure negotiations

  3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

    Biden's presidential persona is a cloud of calm.

    Ok, I suppose that would be... one way of describing it.

    1. JesseAz   4 years ago

      his mind is definitely clouded, but more of thoughts of which ice cream he gets that day or pudding.

    2. Zeb   4 years ago

      Cloud of something. But he looks more surprised or befuddled than calm in images I've seen lately.

    3. Nardz   4 years ago

      The gentry left and MSM freaked out every day of Trump's presidency about anything and everything, but now Trump is gone and their guy is in so they just go along with whatever.
      But yea, their psychotic rage was totes someone else's fault and the "calm" has nothing to do with them no longer acting like toddlers on bath salts who also took some bad acid.

  4. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   4 years ago

    "In the half a year that Joe Biden has been president, it has become something approaching conventional wisdom that he is a boring politician, running a boring presidency that is focused on enacting boring policies."

    If an economy in which billionaires like Reason.com's benefactor Charles Koch can prosper is considered "boring," then maybe being "exciting" is overrated.

    #LibertariansForBiden

  5. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

    Is this the kind of "conventional wisdom" that only resides around the beltway? Cause the rest of us don't believe this at all.

    1. Its_Not_Inevitable   4 years ago

      I'd say this author misses the mark. Its the MEDIA frenzy that's subsided. This in turn may cause many to believe things are "boring" but this administration's programs and plans are mucho grande in the power and money grabbing arenas.

      1. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

        That and the fact that a vast majority of the media is actively pretending that the admintartion is boring. It's literally conventional wisdom created by people who affirmatively push the narrative of a boring administration to be conventional wisdom.

        1. Bluwater   4 years ago

          And Reason is right in there backing it up. Ignoring the subsidence of anything substantive. The media gets by on ratings, not about complaining about the president, but distracting bullshit. It's no ratings winner, but it fills the need of the news-obsessed who have had no life over the past 4 years except a nightly cry over what the president said today. A building collapses in FL, this should fill the news cycle and raise the national fear level for at least a couple of weeks.

      2. criticaljeff racial theorist   4 years ago

        What laptop? What payoffs? What influence? What QPQ in Ukraine? What deals with what Russians and what Chinese?

        1. Ersatz   4 years ago

          I'm sure teams of investigative journalists from mainstream media outlets are focused on all those stories - ready to win prizes and kudos for their intrepid reporting.

          1. squid_hunt   4 years ago

            Trained by Mueller in investigative methodology.

    2. jgress   4 years ago

      I guess that’s why Soaves article on Critical Race Theory gets three times as many comments as this one? I think largely people grasp the cultural issues more easily and know where they stand on them. I think ultimately it’s because they involve less math and most people are bored by numbers.

  6. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   4 years ago

    WHAT ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN? WHY WON'T THE LAMESTREAM MEDIA COVER HUNTER BIDEN AND HIS LAPTOP?

    1. Vulgar Madman   4 years ago

      You make excellent points. Did you finally sober up?

    2. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

      It's funny how much this isn't the own you think it is.

    3. buckleup   4 years ago

      buttplug jerking off the biden porn again

    4. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

      Yes indeed, what about the contents of Hunter Biden laptop and why did the Big Tech companies censor the Post when they reported on it?

      Do you have any answers Buttplug?

  7. Brian   4 years ago

    If Biden were a republican, the news cycle would be 24/7 coverage of how crazy and senile he is.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

      My favorite part about the media coverage of Biden is how they pretend nothing is wrong.

      Oh, speaking of which, Glen Greenwald who should be editor in chief of Reason.

    2. Tony   4 years ago

      Whining is not a philosophy.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

        #MeToo

      2. Vulgar Madman   4 years ago

        It’s like the last four years didn’t even happen.

        1. Tony   4 years ago

          I understand that the only people who are allowed to legitimately whine are billionaires, about their tax bill.

          1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

            #Notmypresident
            #Resist!
            #Impeach!

            1. Tony   4 years ago

              He was impeached twice, and he's not president anymore, and he's probably going to prison. Looks like I picked the right team.

              1. buckleup   4 years ago

                Bill Clintons fucking an intern and lying about raping other women. Screwing around with Epstein's trafficked girls. He was impeached only once though.

                Trump meanwhile isn't going to prison because after three years the DA came up with - taxes on fringe benefits. Uh oh.

                Sounds like you picked a certain team alright. The one that falsely accuses a president of being a russian stooge, illegally wiretaping his campaign, lying about it relentlessly, while championing a serial rapist like Clinton and his enabling wife.

                You are a moral black hole Tony. And you know it.

                1. Tony   4 years ago

                  Did Bill Clinton respond to a global pandemic by whining about how boring it is and telling Americans to inject bleach?

                  It must actually be nice to live in Trumpmerica where facts are so twisted that he actually comes out as a good president. It's fucking unreal.

                  1. JesseAz   4 years ago

                    None of the presidents did.

                  2. Zeb   4 years ago

                    The ironing is delicious.

                  3. Sevo   4 years ago

                    Does shitstain ever post without lying? Managed to get two lies in one sentence.
                    Fucker must practice to achieve that level of stupidity/dishonesty.

                  4. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

                    "Did Bill Clinton respond to a global pandemic by whining about how boring it is and telling Americans to inject bleach?"

                    Maybe?
                    One thing we no for sure is that Trump never did.

                    I don't think Tony's updated his talking points pdf in over a year.

              2. JesseAz   4 years ago

                Most of the early communists thought they also chose the right team in Russia before they were shipped off to the gulags.

          2. OpenBordersLiberal-tarian   4 years ago

            OpenBordersLiberal-tarian's First Law: Democratic politicians campaign on a leftist economic message to trick poor people into voting for them — then govern in a way that makes clear they know they're really in power to serve their billionaire base.

            OpenBordersLiberal-tarian's Second Law: Some Democratic voters, like Tony, are obviously lying when they pretend not to understand OpenBordersLiberal-tarian's First Law.

            #VoteDemocratToHelpBillionaires

            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 years ago

              Finally! I’ve been wondering about OBLs 2nd law after hearing so much about the 1st!

              #Yay!

      3. Brian   4 years ago

        That means a lot coming from a perpetual victim.

      4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 years ago

        Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair! (tm)

  8. Tony   4 years ago

    Yeah, Republicans can only seem to get their hooks in the argument when they're going after Kamala Harris or Stacey Abrams or people like that. You know, naggers.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   4 years ago

      Those two aren't even real Americans you know.

      1. Vulgar Madman   4 years ago

        I see you’re still on the fentanyl.

        1. Unicorn Abattoir   4 years ago

          He should up the dose. A lot.

      2. Tony   4 years ago

        Something about them seems... radical.

        1. buckleup   4 years ago

          Tony and his sock buttplug being racists. Great.

          1. Quo Usque Tandem   4 years ago

            His sock is Raspberry Dinners; trust me, only gay guys eat that shit for dinner

            1. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

              And it's so fucking obvious. At least White Mike tries to switch things up a little when he socks as Queen Analthea.

        2. squid_hunt   4 years ago

          I would have said stupid and low brow, but I'm sure that would shock you.

    2. JesseAz   4 years ago

      When your entire knowledge of what "Republicans" do is Bill Kristol and The Atlantic, this is probably what you actually believe.

      1. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

        Actually, you hit a pretty poignant nail on the head with this comment.

      2. Tony   4 years ago

        It's just that I so rarely find myself 100 miles outside of a major city.

        1. buckleup   4 years ago

          Afraid to leave your rent boy behind?

          1. Tony   4 years ago

            It's just that I like my butt sex to be consensual, and I rarely squeal like a pig.

        2. JesseAz   4 years ago

          Yes, I'm pointing out you are ignorant above. Thanks for comfirming it.

        3. Bluwater   4 years ago

          "It’s just that I so rarely find myself 100 miles outside of a major city."

          Translation - "Lack of experience and knowledge has never stopped me from having an opinion about it, keeps me in a perpetual state of fear, and I like it!"

        4. Mother's Lament   4 years ago

          "I so rarely find myself 100 miles outside of a major city"

          Lol, Tony the Urban Hillbilly.

          Apparently Aspen, Davos, Tuscany and Ibiza are out for this ghetto child because they're too far away from his concrete backwaters.

    3. mad.casual   4 years ago

      Personally and in fairness, I'm waiting on his next SOTU address so I can find out what the third thing he forgot is before criticizing him.

    4. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

      Yeah, there's nothing about Biden that is able to be critiqued. He's just so perfect.

      I tried, I couldn't make it through writing that second sentence without laughing.

    5. quaternion 2   4 years ago

      Libertarians and conservatives should not like Harris and Abrams because they are radical leftists that want to create a one party socialist state with most of the constitution nullified. There is no other reason.

      1. squid_hunt   4 years ago

        Also, Abrams looks like a fat Alfred E. Neuman.

  9. Kevin Smith   4 years ago

    That's because the more people talk about his policies the more people will realize 99% of Biden's policies are the same as Trump's, so so both sides want to play down that angle

    1. mad.casual   4 years ago

      Also, totally weird how after Twitter, Facebook, Google, and Amazon have pretty decidedly cooperated with the DNC to chase conservative speech from their platforms, the media is unable to find conservative voices speaking out against Biden.

      Gives me hope that, in 2024, they'll be stupid enough to fail to rig the election *enough*.

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

      Yeah pretty much. That is doubtless one reason why Team Red has leaned so far into the culture war nonsense. Because that is in the 1% where they disagree. But on most of the big important issues, it is a duopoly.

      1. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

        Sure. It has nothing to do with Team Blue driving the culture war and Team Red finally fighting back.

        Always funny when one team complains about the other team fighting them on their own turf.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

          If Team Red has a winning argument against all that spending, why aren't they trotting it out? Why are they only focusing on comparatively irrelevant shit like which bathroom transgender people use?

          Answers:
          1. Because focusing on culture war issues drives emotion and rage and they want angry people marching to the polls
          2. Because they don't actually disagree with Team Blue on a great deal of the spending

          1. buckleup   4 years ago

            Because nobody cares jeff. Your fat ass should know by now that democrats are too stupid to understand debt and finance, and the GOP knows the public cares so little they don't have to talk about it until the dems start spending more fake dollars.

          2. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

            Culture war isn't irrelevant. You just claim this now because Repubs are active in the culture war and making gains.

            The claims of irrelevancy are pure deflection.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

              Let's see... On the grand scale of things, which is more important?

              1. $26 trillion in debt
              2. Which bathroom Caitlyn Jenner uses

              1. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

                I find it funny how you think the culture war is separate from politics. Culture is upstream of politics. Do you think our lack of care about debt was the result of rigorous political debate, or was it the result of a culture that perpetuated such mindless spending?

                If you win the culture war on government spending, then you can win the political war to rein in spending. Yet, if the culture has no desire of fiscal responsibility, then no amount of policy focus will accomplish anything.

                Again, what you are doing is the tired, age-old deflection game of trying to get your opponents to stop focusing on your weakness by claiming your weakness is irrelevant.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

                  I find it funny how you think the culture war is separate from politics. Culture is upstream of politics. Do you think our lack of care about debt was the result of rigorous political debate, or was it the result of a culture that perpetuated such mindless spending?

                  So what exactly is the plan then?

                  Step 1: Pass a law preventing Caitlyn Jenner from using the "wrong" bathroom.
                  Step 2: ???
                  Step 3: National debt problem is solved!

                  Help me out here. What is Step 2 again?

                  Do you think that if you create a culture of intolerance against transgendered individuals, that that same culture will magically transform into fiscal prudence?

                  Dave F'n Ramsey has done far more to inculcate a culture of fiscal responsibility than anything Team Red has done. Maybe you all should put Dave Ramsey in charge.

                  1. Gaear Grimsrud   4 years ago

                    Funny you bring up Caitlyn Jenner. I can't speak for republicans but their last presidential candidate says she can use any bathroom she wants.
                    https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/donald-trump-caitlyn-jenner-can-use-any-bathroom-she-wants-w203621/

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

                  Again, what you are doing is the tired, age-old deflection game of trying to get your opponents to stop focusing on your weakness by claiming your weakness is irrelevant.

                  "Oh no! Team Red might pass a law preventing 0.5% of the population from using the "wrong" bathroom! Oh dear, I am so afraid!"

                  Team Red demagogues manipulate you and prey on your emotion and your rage to get you to ignore the positions that they had *just 10 years ago* on budgets and spending, and instead focus on a million squirrels that get your blood pressure up, so that you will march to the polls in a mindless rage against The Enemy, and vote for Team Red. It is Demagoguery 101. You are not demonstrating MY weakness. You are demonstrating YOURS.

                  1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 years ago

                    Haha. You’re the only one talking about bathrooms. You are far more obsessed with this than the right wing caricature you imagine in your head.

              2. Nardz   4 years ago

                Stopping the totalitarian movement, which combines the worst elements of Nazism and Communism, currently running roughshod over our country is pretty fucking important.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

              On the grand scale of things, which is more important?

              1. $26 trillion in debt
              2. Mr. Potato Head's gender

            3. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

              On the grand scale of things, which is more important?

              1. $26 trillion in debt
              2. Whether a Dr. Seuss book is 'canceled'

              1. JesseAz   4 years ago

                The irony is that the Democrats are just happy spending 30 Trillion while continuing their culture war to propagandize kids to expect more spending... and you're fine with that.

                You just hate the GOP is fighting back.

                But then again, you're a leftist.

                1. Bluwater   4 years ago

                  Jeff never really understood the phrase, "can't walk and chew gum at the same time" as distinguishing his own breed from anyone else.

            4. Brian   4 years ago

              1. $26 trillion in debt
              2. Minorities waiting for someone else to solve their problems for them

          3. JesseAz   4 years ago

            They've voted no.

            How are you so ignorant?

            The last 2 Trillion was passed through reconciliation.

      2. JesseAz   4 years ago

        Yes, a complete take over in Energy with the GND is only 1% difference.

        Again Jeff rushes to distract from the failures of the left. Odd.

  10. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   4 years ago

    Hmmm, Joe is boring.

    Boring or an egomaniac congenital liar Orange-hued con man?

    Tough call.

    1. JesseAz   4 years ago

      LOL. You actually think Biden is honest in his 36 years in office. You really are a Biden cultist.

      1. squid_hunt   4 years ago

        Yeah, I'm so tired of the lies and racism and corruption. I'm voting Biden!

  11. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

    Party of science won't rule out that the Florida Condo collapse may have been caused by Climate Change.

    1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

      A tall building sitting on sand next to the sea.

      1. mad.casual   4 years ago

        That an inspector told them repeatedly was headed for collapse until the zoning board hired their own expert.

    2. Tony   4 years ago

      Why would they rule out something they're not certain of?

      It is said that sea levels are rising in Florida. The building was built on a beach.

      1. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

        Wow, this is a stretch of a claim, even for you.

        1. Tony   4 years ago

          What's your problem with the idea that climate change played a role in this? Do you think climate change might have played a role in record heat in Canada and Washington state?

          Or does it somehow offend your sensibilities to suggest that climate change has any actual effects on the world?

          1. buckleup   4 years ago

            Because nobody cares, Tony. It's the lowest of priorities on anyone's list.

            1. Tony   4 years ago

              If people think the gender of Mr. Potato Head is a higher priority than saving the habitable environment of planet earth from permanent destruction, those people need to be put in an institution.

              1. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

                No, they just understand that climate change will not destroy the habitable environment of planet earth. That's just religious dogma that cult followers like you believe.

              2. R Mac   4 years ago

                The people that changed the gender of mr potato head care more about the gender of mr potato head than the people that thought changing it was stupid.

                1. Tony   4 years ago

                  You mean the owners?

          2. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

            Because making such speculative assertions is the antithesis of science as there is absolutely no evidence of such a thing. Then, to back it up using the argument that you used is simply more uninformed speculation on top of already wild speculation. And, ironically, all done to meet a political narrative rather than actually getting to the facts of the matter.

            Because, your point is that "it is said that sea levels are rising in Florida" and that "the building was built on a beach." These are the most unscientific and wholly speculative reasons you could possibly give. It's kind of like saying micro black holes are a thing, and therefore one could have flown by and caused the building to fall.

            It ignores that sea levels have been rising for over a hundred years, that there is no acceleration in sea level rise, that there is no evidence that sea levels made it to or were the cause of the building falling, and it does not remotely explain all the other buildings around this building or the fact that the beach is the same size as it was 50 years ago. Further, it goes against all the current information already about the terrible conditions that the building was in prior to it falling. None of which had anything to do with climate change.

            So, instead of pushing moronic and intellectually dishonest speculations based on moronic and intellectually dishonest speculations, maybe aim for actual facts rather than desired political narratives.

            1. Tony   4 years ago

              The fact that you're so emotional about it is why I care.

              1. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

                Exactly. You're just a troll. Thanks for finally being honest.

          3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 years ago

            When will climate change come for the remaining buildings on that beach?

            Jesus fucking Christ man, what is wrong with you? If you can tie collective guilt to a tragedy, you do it. Pathetic.

        2. Sevo   4 years ago

          "Wow, this is a stretch of a claim, even for you.

          Shitstain is quite good at loading lies and stupidity into his posts.

      2. D-Pizzle   4 years ago

        I played on that beach a lot as a kid, about one block north of the collapse. The high tide mark has barely moved in 40 years. The building was nowhere near the high tide mark. There are high rise buildings in the same location relative to the ocean about every 10 ft. for about 5 miles to the south and 60 miles to the north. None of them collapsed. It is an absolute certainty that climate change had nothing to do with the collapse.

      3. mad.casual   4 years ago

        Why would they rule out something they’re not certain of?

        Because that's how science works? We don't continue along the path of vague, untestable, and unreasonably complex hypotheticals. We go along the path that is readily supported by objective fact and easily disprovable on the same.

        Otherwise, how can you rule out the fact that God didn't cause the building to collapse?

        1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 years ago

          In Jeff and Tony’s world there are eleventy trillion hard core right wingers who believe that god brought that building down.

      4. Bluwater   4 years ago

        You really don't understand that building on shifting sand in a saltwater environment requires regular maintenance and ignoring it for 40 years after known payoffs to ignore bad design is a problem, do you? Nah.... gotta be climate change. Cuz AOC is like genius and stuff.

      5. R Mac   4 years ago

        Now you’re just being stupid for stupids sake.

  12. JesseAz   4 years ago

    A recent Atlantic article on the downturn in conservative publishing, for example, noted that it has been hard for right of center authors and editors to turn Biden into the sort of villain who moves books, and that his "relative dullness is his superpower."

    You know... this statement right here explains everything that is wrong with reason. They care more about personality than the actual policies that effect us. And they push the leftist narrative, The Altantic in this case, instead of reality.

    There has been plenty to mock Biden about from a character standpoint. But his policies were open and clearly stated leading up to the election and now after the election. Only the left and Reason tried gaslighting that Biden was going to act as a Moderate despite his very own campaign website saying otherwise.

    Reason editors are rubes who easily fall for the lies of their cultural bubbles and then project being a rube onto others.

    It is quite laughable.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   4 years ago

      His presidency is 'dull' because CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, and pretty much every news organization in the country (what Youtube calls "authoritative sources") want it portrayed that way.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

        It's dull because Biden is a dull man who is not throwing rhetorical bombs on Twitter for the sake of 'pwning the cons' or for the sake of racking up 'likes' to flatter his ego.

        1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

          Because he doesn’t know how.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

            Maybe not. In this case that's a good thing.

            1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

              Ignorance is bliss.

              1. Longtobefree   4 years ago

                Let us be precise:
                "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise".

              2. JesseAz   4 years ago

                Jeff's daily mantra.

                1. Sevo   4 years ago

                  Pretty sure jeff isn't capable of recognizing that.

        2. Zeb   4 years ago

          I think that speaks more to the idiotic and irrelevant things the media pays attention to. If both Trump and Biden were looked at more in terms of actual policy coming out of their administrations, it would look rather different.

          1. Nardz   4 years ago

            Biden routinely declares half of the American people are domestic terrorists based solely on their beliefs, not actions.
            He said Americans don't need their right to self defense because they can't hope to defend themselves against F16s and nukes.
            He said he'd assembled the most inclusive and effective voter fraud team ever.
            C'mon man.

        3. JesseAz   4 years ago

          No, he has the media working full time to flatter his ego. And he gets very angry at them for even a semi-decent question. It is such a joke globally that Australia is making fun of it often.

          But you support him, so of course you buy into the US Media Narrative.

      2. Tony   4 years ago

        Maybe they're concerned that giving Republicans any juice might lead to the overthrow of the United States constitution that guarantees their right to do their job.

        1. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

          The really sad thing is, I think you actually believe this garbage.

          1. Tony   4 years ago

            Oh, I think major news media should have stopped "both sidesing" this shit like two decades ago.

            1. Dude24   4 years ago

              Doesn't matter. Non-liberals just don't watch that shit anyway... because we know it's all pro-Dem rubberstamps. Hence their tanking ratings.

            2. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

              Did you think this comment was at all relevant to my comment?

              1. Tony   4 years ago

                I think you're whining that the news media is soooo unfaaaaaair to Republicans, despite Republicans' stated intention of overthrowing democracy and the constitution.

                I'm glad if they're unfair to Republicans. I think we should shut down FOX News too.

                1. Sevo   4 years ago

                  Of course shitstain had no idea if it was or wasn't. To assume otherwise would assume that shitstain wasn't drunk soon after breakfast and further that he had the mental abilities to separate reality from the fantasies in his head.
                  Neither is true.

      3. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

        I mean, horror of horrors, there are times now when the news cycle is *not* dominated by presidential tweets.

        1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

          Totally the fault of the president.

        2. JesseAz   4 years ago

          No, instead it is dominated by them covering for the president instead.

          But you like the statist collusion.

        3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 years ago

          You little snowflakes were really traumatized by tweets, weren’t you?

          Sad.

      4. Nardz   4 years ago

        Evil as banality

    2. squid_hunt   4 years ago

      That's a very good point. "The Atlantic is super concerned about the state of conservative publications..." is an impeccable position.

  13. sarcasmic   4 years ago

    If anything, Republicans are actively looking for ways to endorse parts of Biden's agenda. Under Trump, Republicans endorsed precursors to many of the policies that Biden is now proposing. To the extent that Biden's economic agenda is meeting serious opposition it is from centrist economists long associated with the Democratic party.

    Republicans used to be the party of economic liberty. Then along came a protectionist buffoon shrouded in a cult of personality, and now those of us who support economic freedom have no where to turn.

    1. sarcasmic   4 years ago

      Or rather the Democrats have long been openly hostile to economic liberty while Republicans pretended to care. Now they don't even pretend.

      1. JesseAz   4 years ago

        Proven by them passing a 2 Trillion dollar bill 3 months ago and advocating for up to 6 Trillion more... oh wait...

    2. Tony   4 years ago

      Sure you do. You can choose to stop believing that ANY regulation at all is inherently evil. You could choose to stop believing that taxes can only go down and never up, while at the same time insisting that government spending be offset with taxes. You can choose to dispense with the untenably radical things you believe vis a vis Democratic economic policy.

      You could do that and simply look at the stock market. Look at how the economy does when Democrats are in power vs. Republicans. Look at the relative lack of major economic crises.

      Define economic freedom as something meaningful and not just as an unthinking handful of absolutist policy requirements and radical assumptions, and you have somewhere to turn.

      1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

        Translation: Tony wants to stay home with free money.

        1. Tony   4 years ago

          Is that an option? Then fuck yeah, that's what I'd like to do.

          Only fucking poor suckers think working is a virtue. And they never believe it for the rich. The rich sitting on a yacht all summer is a virtue for them, somehow.

          1. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

            Arguing to not be a productive member of society is not the strong argument you think it is.

            1. Tony   4 years ago

              "Productive" is doing a lot of work in that characterization.

              Conservative values would have us believe that sitting on a bunch of equities is more "productive" than actually working to create their value.

              1. sarcasmic   4 years ago

                If that capital is used wisely then yes it will likely be more productive than Johnny Nosepicker at McDonalds.

                1. Tony   4 years ago

                  Used wisely? So we must police holders of wealth to make sure they're paying it forward to society.

                  Just not with taxes.

              2. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

                Wow, it's apparent your understanding of economics (along with even your prior comments) is outstandingly bad.

          2. sarcasmic   4 years ago

            How do the rich get rich?

            1. Tony   4 years ago

              Being born to rich parents is probably the most efficient way.

              1. sarcasmic   4 years ago

                I know a few rich people. None of them were born that way.

                1. JesseAz   4 years ago

                  Do you regret siding with the Jeff's and White Mike's of the world because your feelings got hurt and people pointed out your hypocrisy?

                  1. Sevo   4 years ago

                    Or asshole was called on his TDS and adolescent fan-boi focus?
                    "Embarrassment" would be more appropriate, but that requires a certain level of intelligence.

                2. Tony   4 years ago

                  I bet they weren't born in an ungoverned shit ditch either.

                  1. Sevo   4 years ago

                    Shitstain is somehow convinced that this suggests other than shitstain is brain-damaged.

                3. Sevo   4 years ago

                  "I know a few rich people. None of them were born that way."

                  Pretty certain that most of them wish TDS-addled assholes like you *DIDN'T* know them.

      2. sarcasmic   4 years ago

        When you're ready to argue with things I actually said then maybe we can have a conversation. Right now you're as entertaining as JesseAz who I've had muted since the feature because available.

        1. JesseAz   4 years ago

          LOL. Sarcasmic lies here. He has responded to me as recently as last week.

          He may have muted me again for exposing his hypocrisy again, but then again don't care. He has never offered up an argument of any value.

          Why do all alcoholics retreat so quickly into victimhood?

        2. Sevo   4 years ago

          "When you’re ready to argue with things I actually said then maybe we can have a conversation. Right now you’re as entertaining as JesseAz who I’ve had muted since the feature because available."

          Keep muting all those calling you on your bullshit, TDS-addled asshole; you should end up with jeff, Tony, turd and perhaps the Nazi.

    3. Sevo   4 years ago

      "....Then along came a protectionist buffoon shrouded in a cult of personality, and now those of us who support economic freedom have no where to turn..."

      Then along came lying pieces of lefty shit like this TDS-addled asshole, justifying his adolescent fan-boi focus on personality rather than results.
      Stuff it up your ass, jack-off; your heads hoping for some company

  14. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

    "If anything, Republicans are actively looking for ways to endorse parts of Biden's agenda. Under Trump, Republicans endorsed precursors to many of the policies that Biden is now proposing. To the extent that Biden's economic agenda is meeting serious opposition it is from centrist economists long associated with the Democratic party"

    Progressive liberaltarians are still suffering from a psychotic break that's associated with their earlier Trump Derangement Syndrome. They still haven't come to terms with the realization that their lack of support for Trump is the reason why this outrageous spending is happening and will happen, and their psychosis is effecting their grasp of reality. The latter symptom is screamingly apparent in their enthusiasm for blaming a Republican party for this spending--when the Republicans are powerless to stop the Democrats' spending.

    Is Suderman aware that the Democrats can and will pass all this spending without a single Republican vote via budget reconciliation? From an intellectual standpoint, I'm sure he is! Somehow, however, that doesn't translate into blaming the Democrats for that spending. Somehow, all this spending is still the Republicans' fault--despite the Republicans lacking any means to prevent it or stop it. And despite all this spending being both foreseeable and foreseen, somehow voting for Trump couldn't possibly have prevented this?!

    As we stand now, it doesn't look like Biden will get bipartisan support for his $1.2 trillion infrastructure deal in the Senate. The Republicans were willing to do that instead of a reconciliation bill--not in addition to a reconciliation bill. And Biden's $3 trillion budget reconciliation bill probably doesn't have the support of progressive Democrats in the House--because they want a $6 trillion bill. And since the Republicans can't do anything to stop it through budget reconciliation, why shouldn't progressive Democrats get as much as they want of whatever they want?

    The most likely outcome with the path of least resistance is Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer giving the progressive Democrats what they want with a $6 trillion reconciliation bill, and that bill will most likely pass through budget reconciliation without any Republican support. Fewer Republicans will vote for that spending than voted to impeach Donald Trump, but it will probably go through over the objections of Republicans and with the full support of Biden and the Democratic leadership.

    If and when that spending goes through without any Republican support, progressive liberaltarians may never be able to live down the profound stupidity of their 2020 bothsideism. There is a map out of that hell, however, with two waypoints on it.

    1) Acknowledge that this budget insanity could have been avoided by voting for Republicans in 2020.

    2) Acknowledge that the most practical and realistic way to put an end to this budget insanity is to vote for Republicans in 2022.

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

      As we stand now, it doesn’t look like Biden will get bipartisan support for his $1.2 trillion infrastructure deal in the Senate.

      Is this "bipartisan" bipartisan, or is this "Ken-version-of-bipartisan" bipartisan?

      1. JesseAz   4 years ago

        It is the definition of it that even White Mike listed in 2 of 3 of his definitions that you pretended meant something else. Was hilarious.

      2. Sevo   4 years ago

        "Is this “bipartisan” bipartisan, or is this “Ken-version-of-bipartisan” bipartisan?"

        It really should be the Tony/turd/this asshole rule.

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

      Somehow, all this spending is still the Republicans’ fault–despite the Republicans lacking any means to prevent it or stop it.

      No, Ken. What Republicans are at fault for, is not making the case against all the spending, and instead focusing on canceling Dr. Seuss, Critical Race Theory, transgender bathrooms, and a bunch of culture war bullshit. They are not making the case against all the spending because, in their hearts, they AGREE with a great deal of it. But they don't want you figuring that out so they throw a million culture-war squirrels out there hoping you'll be distracted by those instead.

    3. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

      1) Acknowledge that this budget insanity could have been avoided by voting for Republicans Libertarians in 2020.

      there, fixed it for ya

      1. mad.casual   4 years ago

        The assertion that Jorgensen had the political clout to repel not just Republican, but bipartisan budget jockeying is gonna require a fantastic amount of evidence.

        Not saying people shouldn't vote libertarian, but the notion that Jorgensen was our ticket out is more fanatical than any of the beliefs about Trump or Biden.

        1. JesseAz   4 years ago

          Jeff uses Jo as a distraction. He thinks if he name drops her once every 100 posts people won't realize he is a globalist or socialist pushing leftist dogma.

    4. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

      2) Acknowledge that the most practical and realistic way to put an end to this budget insanity is to vote for Republicans in 2022.

      And that is your main raison d'etre now, Ken. Virtually every argument we are going to see from you, from now until November 2022, is how we all should vote for Republicans. It is sad that you have become such a Team Red fluffer.

      1. Dude24   4 years ago

        At least Team Red wins every once in a while.

        1. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

          I don't know what stupid thing ChemJeff said, but, yeah . . .

          "2) Acknowledge that the most practical and realistic way to put an end to this budget insanity is to vote for Republicans in 2022."

          ----Ken Shultz

          The chances of the Libertarian Party taking control of the House or the Senate in 2022 are more than just remote.

          And in order for the Democrats to lose control of either the House or the Senate in 2022, some other party will need to win.

          ChemJeff certainly isn't smart enough to understand the implications of Duverger's Law, and I wouldn't recommend anybody waste the time necessary to come to the conclusion that ChemJeff is an idiot.

          Just mute him. You'll miss nothing.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

          Do you get a lollipop if you vote for the winning team?

          1. JesseAz   4 years ago

            You are up to 3 dozen posts today defending team blue which you claim you aren't a part of.

          2. Sevo   4 years ago

            Maybe you get a lollipop for formulating a complete, logical thought!
            My lollipop supply is safe from this ignoramus.

  15. Jerryskids   4 years ago

    Of course Biden's policies are dull and boring and uncontroversial, there's nobody to make a stink over them. He doesn't need to argue or explain or persuade, he just announces what he's going to do and then the Democrats go out and do it and nobody says a peep. Well, nobody that matters anyway, if you say one word against Biden it just means you're an extremist Nazi homophobic hater, you're fat and ugly and stupid and nobody likes you. But the press sure as hell ain't going to make a stink over Biden proposing a six trillion dollar deficit, signing a deal to give Iran our nuclear submarines, selling Texas to the Chinese for 12 bucks, making all of Central America an American territory, fucking a kangaroo at the Washington Zoo, or dropping his trousers and taking a shit on the sideboard in the middle of a state dinner.

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   4 years ago

      He doesn’t need to argue or explain or persuade, he just announces what he’s going to do and then the Democrats go out and do it and nobody says a peep.

      LOL this is so hilarious. Sure, there's no difference between Joe Manchin and Elizabeth Warren. They all march lockstep!

      1. JesseAz   4 years ago

        You really defend the left all day don't you?

    2. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

      I would point out that Biden's and the Democrats' spending requires no Republican support whatsoever through budget reconcilation.

      This is a bit like faulting the children of Hiroshima for the atom bomb. No, the children of Hiroshima didn't do much to fight back against the Enola Gay when it was dropping an atomic bomb on their city from 32,000 feet, but I'm not sure we should blame them for that. After all, what could they do?! How were the children of Hiroshima supposed to stop a plane from dropping a bomb on them from 32,000 feet? Should they have wanted it not to happen more?

      The Republicans do not control the Senate, and the Democrats can pass any spending and taxes they want through budget reconciliation without any Republican support. No, the Republicans haven't put up much of a fight (other than refusing to endorse Biden's spending to the point that the Biden administration stopped negotiating with the Republican leadership in the Senate and started negotiating with a select committee of five Republicans outside of it). But what else could they do?

      Ever read Ellison's, "I Have no Mouth and I Must Scream"? Powerless to move and with no mouth to scream, the last human is forced to stare into and live an eternal life of horror. It's one thing to say he should scream. He would scream if he could. It's quite another to fault him for not screaming louder. He cannot scream louder because there are no means to scream. No vocal cords. No mouth. He just breathes through his nose. That's what the Republican party is looking at until November of 2022.

      And blaming them for not doing more to fight against this is absurd.

      1. Tony   4 years ago

        I think you need to refresh your explanation for why government spending is such a great evil. It's not like it's raising taxes to any confiscatory degree to do it. Isn't it more instructive to speak about the actual things government will be doing in society? The roads and bridges and replacing lead pipes and such?

        Many of these investments will reduce long-term costs. That's one of the points of investing, apart from improving people's lives.

        Do you not think lead pipes need to be replaced? Do you not want to expand broadband access to rural areas? Or do you just prefer that we pay for those things with tax hikes?

        Or is your primary concern that Democrats will get credit for something from voters?

        1. Don't look at me!   4 years ago

          Do you not want to expand broadband access to rural areas?
          Starlink will have that covered long before any government entity could even think about starting anything.

          1. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

            +1

            Why do we need rural broadband when they're launching huge constellations of satellites?

            And that's not to mention Amazon's Kuiper Systems project or OneWeb--or thing like fixed wireless.

            Rolling out broadband at this point is like rolling out traditional phone lines--even as the world is transitioning to wireless. If anything, rolling out broadband will unnecessarily create competition for better technology that doesn't necessarily rely on burying lines or keeping telephone poles vertical in a storm.

            And, yes, the fact that the superior technology doesn't cost the taxpayers a goddamn thing is the best part of it. I didn't know what chemjeff said, but I was all but sure it would be ignorant and stupid.

            1. Sevo   4 years ago

              That happened to be shitstain, AKA "Tony', but it was at least as lame as jeff posts:
              He's happy to spend your money on stuff!

        2. Sevo   4 years ago

          I think shitstain needs to fuck off and die.

  16. sarcasmic   4 years ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9742201/Bill-Cosby-s-sex-assault-conviction-overturned-court.html

    Bill Cosby is free!

    1. Brian   4 years ago

      Racial Justice!

  17. buckleup   4 years ago

    Jesus wept Tony jeff buttplug socks just whipping it out today. Too bad it's a gherkin. For such a fat person.

    1. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

      Just put 'em on mute.

      Everything they say is just stupid and irrational anyway.

      1. Quo Usque Tandem   4 years ago

        ^ this. You don't even have to be able to read it to know what the palaver is. "I'm miserable, no one loves me, I need help"

      2. Inquisitive Squirrel   4 years ago

        I mean, are they honestly just trolls? Cause the hyper-moronic stuff they spew is so bizarre that it's hard to comprehend that someone actually believes that stuff.

        1. Ken Shultz   4 years ago

          Yes, they are honestly just trolls is the short answer.

          The short answer looks more like this:

          "Shitposting is posting "aggressively, ironically, and of trollishly poor quality"[1] posts or content to an online forum or social media.[2][3][4][5] Shitposts are intentionally designed to derail discussions or cause the biggest reaction with the least effort. Sometimes they are made as part of a coordinated flame war to make the site unusable by its regular visitors.[6]

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shitposting

          Back in the day, we used to talk about the 50 Cent Army, which was about Chinese shitposting. If you said something critical of the Chinese government on a high profile website, a bunch trolls with broken English would show up and start defending the Chinese government using the most absurd arguments imaginable. The point wasn't to argue with you and change your mind. They just wanted to respond to your comments with so much shit that you wouldn't say bad things about the Chinese anymore.

          You could literally write something like, "China has an evil government", and see five comments respond to that more or less the same way within a couple of minutes. If you're going to say bad things about China, they'd just as soon ruin the thread. Reporters who went to China found that Chinese bureaucrats and Chinese students could get paid 50 cents an hour or however much to do this from China, but they also found that people would do it to put on their resumes.

          The progressive shitposters are mostly voluntarily doing the same shit for the same reason. You don't have to try very hard. Just write something like "Progressives are America's most horrible people", and the progressive shitposters will lock onto you and hump your leg like a retarded Chihuahua. It's hilarious.

          Anyway, just like it's best to ignore trolls, it's best to mute the shitposters. They aren't trying to reason with you. They aren't here to lean anything. They don't care whether they're wrong or right. Their only intention is to ruin threads and distract people. They are easily dealt with through the mute button. Seeing the shit they post is optional. Don't waste your time reading the shit they post.

          1. Quo Usque Tandem   4 years ago

            Very well said,

            And thanks for the information on the 50 centers; I used to notice the same whenever a story about Robert Mugabe drew comments. I wondered if they were from the Zimbabwe Ministry of Propaganda.

  18. Bill Dalasio   4 years ago

    Leave it to beltway libertarians to confuse mediocre with boring. Joe Biden has always, throughout his career, been a stunning mediocrity. Now he's just a senile mediocrity. But, only morons confuse mediocrity with moderation. The nature and scope of his policies were announced when he was running. The fact that that he delivered them in an uninspiring drone hardly made them any less radical.

    1. NoVaNick   4 years ago

      It didn’t matter what he said on the campaign trail. He wasn’t Orange Man.

      1. Dillinger   4 years ago

        *was* funny when he admitted to the coke, and admitted to the "fraud machine"

    2. mad.casual   4 years ago

      Especially considering that he was tailored to the position. Warren, Harris, and AOC were too vociferous. Biden was the calm voice of moderation as to why we should continue to march, slowly and calmly, into perpetual debt and forever wars. Reason even ran an article touting him as such.

  19. NoVaNick   4 years ago

    I don’t think we will realize the full damage this administration has done until maybe 10 or 20 years from now when the economy will be mostly non-existent. I say administration NOT Biden because I think the old coot doesn’t think or care at all about policy-just signs off on whatever his handlers tell him to.

    1. Ron   4 years ago

      I don't think it will even take 10 years

      1. NoVaNick   4 years ago

        Depends-if the government keeps paying people not to work while printing money, things might seem ok for a while.

  20. Eeyore   4 years ago

    Stealthy my ass. Spending 6 trillion a pop with no plan to stop. Stop acting like Mnangagwa and go back to just inappropriate sniffing.

  21. Dillinger   4 years ago

    stealthy like a GWAR show

    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 years ago

      Lol. That would be awesome. Joe or Kammy as Oderus?

      Gotta go with kammy.

  22. Dillinger   4 years ago

    >>a cloud of calm

    lol dude doesn't even know he's standing up.

  23. Bogart   4 years ago

    Prices are rising on the order of 10% per year and 20% of all US Currency units have been created in the past year. I would guess that as people become more and more impoverished by these price rises then people will be much less bored with his policies.

    Biden's economic policies like those of FDR are just the ones of their predecessors only more of what impoverishes a nation and less of what makes a nation great.

    1. CE   4 years ago

      LBJ's fiscal restraint and foreign policy with Carter's economic management skills.

  24. CE   4 years ago

    What is "stealthy" about doubling federal spending (from 6 trillion to 12 trillion), jacking up taxes, and hiring 87,000 IRS agents to prey on the citizenry?

    Does that sound like a winning campaign platform? Mondale lost 49-1 when he ran on a much watered down version of that.

  25. buckleup   4 years ago

    This is by far one of the stupidest articles here on reason koch comedy hour. Liberaltarians here decided long ago to vote democrat and support that choice no matter how bad it gets.

  26. crtum   4 years ago

    Stealthy?

  27. Moderation4ever   4 years ago

    Right now President Biden benefits from the lack of a second party. Yes, the Republicans exist but they have not had a new idea for years. Top this of this Republicans are lazy, instead of working to solve problem they whine about them. Listen if your car has problems you take it to the shop. Do you want the mechanic that goes and starts working the problem, or one that that does work but just tells you how bad cars are, how they use to be better, and opines that it the result of immigrants and CRT?

    By the way the US is not alone the French did not give the crazies a victory last week. I think the sane people in the world are starting to stand up and say enough.

    1. JesseAz   4 years ago

      Parody.

    2. Sevo   4 years ago

      "...Yes, the Republicans exist but they have not had a new idea for years..."

      This pathetic piece of shit assumes 'new ideas' are the ones with which he agrees.
      I'm seriously confused here; the asshole claims to be retired or near it, and yet his every post screams "I'M A 12 YEAR OLD POSTING FROM THE BASEMENT!!!!"

  28. R Mac   4 years ago

    Shit’s getting absurd around here.

  29. Mickey Rat   4 years ago

    Joe Biden is, and always has been, a weirdo. It is just that the press does not get the vapors every time Biden does something strange because they are loathe to criticize a Democrat. This is how Biden looks boring. At least they have enough shame to not tout Biden as an amazing intellectual powerhouse like they did with Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry and Barack "The Constitutional Scholar" Obama.

    The Biden presidency is not boring, The Left just wants the populace to go to sleep while the Democrats have their way with the ciuntry.

    1. Tony   4 years ago

      So what's FOX News's excuse?

      Obama and his wife are perfectly normal people, but they managed to attack them as radical foreign agents.

      They pounce all over Kamala Harris every time she dares open her mouth, too.

      There's a whole thing about how Joe Manchin might get tarnished if he is associated with Stacey Abrams.

      What it is about Joe that they can't sink their teeth into? What could it be?

      1. Sevo   4 years ago

        "...Obama and his wife are perfectly normal people, but they managed to attack them as radical foreign agents..."

        Shitstain can't spell "lying piece of shit"; one of his many expressions of stupidity and dishonesty.

      2. criticaljeff racial theorist   4 years ago

        Go FY and Jeff too, lying bumbling gaslighting idiots

        https://mobile.twitter.com/fairforall_org/status/1410326198677217280

        1. criticaljeff racial theorist   4 years ago

          Breaking:
          @SLF_Liberty
          has filed a discrimination lawsuit against Evanston School District. The school engaged in racial segregation, depicted “whiteness” as a devil, and taught that whites are inherently oppressive.

          1. criticaljeff racial theorist   4 years ago

            Teachers were separated by race, instructed on the problems with "white talk" and "white privilege," and required to participate in "privilege walks

            1. criticaljeff racial theorist   4 years ago

              Students as young as kindergarten were separated by race into "affinity groups," told to participate in "privilege walks" based on their skin color, and given books depicting "whiteness" as a devil that "mess[es] endlessly" with "all fellow humans of color."

              1. criticaljeff racial theorist   4 years ago

                The children were also taught "whiteness is a bad deal," white people send "overt and subliminal messages" that they are "superior" and black people are "bad, ugly, and inferior," and color-blindness is racist

                1. criticaljeff racial theorist   4 years ago

                  The school website proclaimed 5-year-old children, "especially while children," are not "racial innocents." The complaint alleges these discriminatory and hostile practices violate Title VI of the Civil Rights Act and the Equal Protection guarantee.

                  1. Sevo   4 years ago

                    As if the watermelon 'movement' isn't a post modern religion, mirroring the purity of an Eden prior to rational thought and the 'rapture' where the pure will be saved, we now have original sin cast upon the white youth!
                    This is a religion and needs to be removed from the gov't schools; they have no better claim to validity than to the creationists.

                    1. criticaljeff racial theorist   4 years ago

                      No, they are banning teaching of the history of racism. No one can teach history. CRT isn't taught. This isn't CRT. a bad teacher said something wrong. This is not taught in the public schools, only Universities, Trust the Experts, not hysterical uninformed parents. lie, lie, lie, bullshit, gaslight, dumbassery

                    2. Sevo   4 years ago

                      "No, they are banning teaching of the history of racism..."

                      That's a stunning claim from a lefty piece of shit who hardly ever posts without lying.
                      Let's say, as a lying piece of lefty shit, you'd better come up with some believable cites to be taken at face value. Your rep says your full of shit; prove otherwise, TDS -addled asshole.
                      Or STFU.

                    3. Sevo   4 years ago

                      Sevo
                      July.1.2021 at 12:40 am
                      Flag Comment Mute User

                      “No, they are banning teaching of the history of racism…”

                      That’s a stunning claim from a lefty piece of shit who hardly ever posts without lying.
                      Let’s say, as a lying piece of lefty shit, you’d better come up with some believable cites to be taken at face value. Your rep says your full of shit; prove otherwise, TDS -addled asshole.
                      Or STFU.

                      Allow me to eat my words; your handle is too close to that asshole's handle and...........

          2. Tony   4 years ago

            Wait till you hear about what happened to black people.

            1. Sevo   4 years ago

              Wait to you read what shitstain for once posts which isn't bullshit!
              Don't hold your breath.

            2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 years ago

              Yeah tony, we all just wish they had a voice. An outlet, somewhere, anywhere that we can we hear more about collective guilt and grievances of centuries past.

              Lol. What a doosh.

  30. daveca   4 years ago

    "Stealth" must refer to Biteme not knowing who he is.

  31. TJJ2000   4 years ago

    The Obama/Biden Great Recession was soooooo "boring"......
    Millions lost their homes, their incomes and the term 'tent city' got it's own meaning.... It was sooooo boring......

    The Trump Administration launched the economy, generally stood for freedom, had the lowest unemployment since the 60s.. That was exciting....

    I'll take exciting over boring any-day of the week.

  32. Vikas   4 years ago

    Yeah, we aren't getting any entertainment like we used to get while Trump was in chair

  33. lifeasible   4 years ago

    Exosomes
    https://www.lifeasible.com/platforms/exosomes-platform/
    Exosomes are present in all body fluids under both normal and pathophysiological conditions

  34. dada   4 years ago

    here everything u wanna know about

  35. Honest John   4 years ago

    On "the bright side" (if you can call it that), it's doubtful that the country can survive a 2nd Biden term or one K. Harris term. We seem to be in a mad dash for self destruction, economically at least, after the initial "rush" of the "free money for votes" wears off.

  36. Tonto   4 years ago

    SO tired of the DRAMA of the last Prez…i'm liking a boring POTUS

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