Here's How We Could Double the Number of Americans Vaccinated Against COVID-19
According to a new study, one dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is nearly as effective as two.

One dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is 85 percent effective in preventing symptomatic disease 15 to 28 days after being administered, according to a new study reported in The Lancet. Currently, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends that the U.S. stick to the two-dose regimen with vaccinations occurring 21 days apart, the approach that was tested in clinical trials and approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). That dosing regimen provides 95 percent protection against the virus. The CDC recently advised that waiting up to 42 days between the first and second doses would be OK.
The new study bolsters an analysis by other researchers published in The New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) that estimated that one shot of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is 92.6 percent effective after two weeks. The same researchers also found that one dose of Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine is 92.1 percent effective after two weeks.
In response to the NEJM analysis, Pfizer researchers noted that alternative dosing regimens have not been evaluated. They added, "The decision to implement alternative dosing regimens resides with health authorities; however, we at Pfizer believe that it is critical for health authorities to conduct surveillance on implemented alternative dosing schedules to ensure that vaccines provide the maximum possible protection."
Of course, the question is whether we should "provide maximum possible protection" for individuals or for populations. Back in December, I asked, "Why use two doses of COVID-19 vaccines when one works almost as well?" I pointed out the fact that we could double the number of Americans vaccinated against COVID-19.
Similarly, in a recent Washington Post op-ed, George Mason University economist Alex Tabarrok asked:
Is it better to give a second dose to one person, boosting them from 80 percent to 95 percent protected, or to give a first dose to someone else, raising them from 0 percent to 80 percent protected? Ethics and efficiency both suggest that it's better to protect two people well than one person maximally. It's also a quicker route to herd immunity, a key part of any vaccine strategy.
In other good news, Pfizer is reporting that its vaccine no longer needs ultra-cold refrigeration and can instead be stored for two weeks at temperatures commonly found in pharmaceutical freezers and refrigerators. This considerably simplifies and speeds the vaccine's wider distribution.
New reports about the efficacy of a one-dose regimen are vindicating the United Kingdom's decision to delay the second dose of these vaccines by 12 weeks so that supplies can be stretched in order to inoculate more people more quickly. Let's hope these new data prod the Biden administration into making a similar decision soon.
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Single condoms are X % effective protection when having sex with a hepatitis infected partner. Which is Y % less than double bagging. What would Jesus do?
"What would Jesus do?"
In that situation? Cure his partner.
I'll go along with Pfizer on this - not an economist.
The fact is the actual data here re one dose was not actually studied. It is estimated. Which means that any calculation based on that estimate can ONLY have a more significant error than the original. It is the biggest flaw with this love of quantitative noodling. Error on error on error. All ignored (best case). Or lied about if there is some hidden agenda. Until pretty soon the argument is about numbers that aren't based on any reality at all.
There are all sorts of reasons to assess an alternative dosing system. But ignoring the basic flaws of building on error is a pretty crappy and unethical way to start.
In semi-related news - life expectancy in the US dropped by a bit over one year in the first six months of 2020
From the CDC report (linked in above):
Life expectancy in black men dropped by three years in that timeframe
The overall life expectancy drop was greater than any time since WW2 when deaths were among young men
Coronavirus was responsible for roughly 2/3 of excess deaths
And this is only the first six months of 2020.
Is that link working? It's from the BBC.
linkee no workee
JFree brain no workee. Interpretting lifespan by subsections of the population on an interval of 6 mos. is the definition of cherry-picking p-value hunting.
Might as well cite the rising number of pre-term abortions to say that negative life expectancy is increasing.
It's interesting that life expectancy was flat-lining before COVID and, despite our long-trumpeted triumph over infectious diseases, it was an infectious disease that killed half as many people as heart disease that, somehow, tipped us back into decline. Well, tipped us back into decline again.
Well, not 'again' like that was the last time it dipped but again again. Almost like COVID didn't actually have any real effect on life expectancy in any meaningful way.
With progtards in charge life expectancy will drop further.
At least not in any meaningful way that could be interpretted in the same year it took place.
Can you make up your mind about what point you were trying to make? Whatever the intended point was, I am sure it was something designed to reinforce your worldview, rather than to challenge it.
So you don't know my worldview or what my point was but you're sure that it didn't challenge it?
Look, Chipper just knows you are on someone's team and he isn't. He is the last true neutral party outside of Jeff, WK, and Sarcasmic.
It has been dropping for a few years. You may be shocked, by lockdowns had a negative effect on suicide and illicit substance use.
Life expectancy dropped by one year in first half of 2020
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/11/us-life-expectancy-keeps-falling/576664/
https://time.com/5464607/us-life-expectancy-2017/
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/press-release/8-in-10-people-who-have-died-of-covid-19-were-age-65-or-older-but-the-share-varies-by-state/
Not to mention that from an individual perspective, life expectancy is a relatively mindless statistic. Anybody with a passing familiarity with game theory could envision a situation (or many) where every individual pursuing a long life expectency winds up diminishing the group's life expectancy as well as their own quality/length of life. For clarification, see Morty's storyline in the Edge of Tomorty: Rick Die Rickpeat episode of Rick and Morty.
For many, the most likely factor of an earlier death continues to be heart disease, a result of the conquering of the historical problems of not enough food.
It's an issue, but a wonderful issue compared to what went before. I don't want moral busibodies "fixing" it.
For many, the most likely factor of an earlier death continues to be heart disease, a result of the conquering of the historical problems of not enough food.
And for several decades, busybodies demonized animal fats and extolled the virtues of starches and hydrogenated fats while pointing to rising life expectancies and exacerbating heart disease.
Worth mentioning, actual death stats come a year or two after. Most recent actual population-level stats are from 2018.
The rest are statistical models and interim data, not firm numbers by adding up death certificates to check for duplicates and causes.
Real life expectancy numbers for 2020 won’t be available until 2022. Don’t be sucked in to government propaganda clickbait.
Just out of curiosity, when they say the vaccines are "effective", effective at doing what exactly?
As I understand it--and maybe I misunderstand--once you're vaccinated you still have to wear a mask because you could still infect others. Is this so? If it is, how does that square with the argument that we have a civic obligation to take the vaccine to protect others?
Or, if you need to have a negative test before you can fly back to the US, why do I still need a mask on the airplane?
Because the airline needs a uniform policy. Also nobody really knows what that means in terms of transmission and there are false negatives.
Cases are trending down everywhere and as more people get vaccinated I think things will ease up.
Hope springs eternal.
I thought it sprang from turtles
Depends on the endpoint defined in the study.
It means effective at reducing symptomatic disease in vaccinated individuals not necessarily transmission. Data is just beginning to come in on the latter question as more of the population is vaccinated.
The entire project is basically an experiment as the vaccine was rushed out. Keep an eye on results from Israel which has the highest percentage of vaccinations and is working closely with Pfizer.
At this point they are working on the younger population. Just saw they were hosting events with things like free beer and pizza to get people to come for the shot.
Search Bnei brak and cholent vaccine.
Effectiveness is based on comparing a vaccinated group with an unvaccinated group.
For example, if 100 people are vaccinated and 100 people are not, then 5 in each group get sick over the next month or so, the vaccine has 0% effectiveness.
If 1 in the vaccine group got sick but 10 in the other group got sick, take the reciprocal of (1/10) and you get 10, so the vaccine is 100-10= or 90% effective.
If you have 2 in the vaccine group get sick but 40 in the other group get sick, take the reciprocal of (2/40) and you get 20, so the vaccine is 100-20= 80% effective.
If you have 10 get sick in group one, but 50 get sick in group two, you have reciprocal (10/50) is 5, so effectiveness is 95%.
Similarly, if 1 out of 100 gets sick in vaccine group and 5 out of 100 get sick in unvaccinated group, you take reciprocal (1/5), is 5, so effectiveness is the same 95%!!
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH the Pfizer and moderna vaccines.... hardly anyone got sick in either group.
So it’s fair to ask what good is the vaccine when hardly anyone got sick with covid during the initial tests. The answer is that these vaccines were tested on fairly healthy people at the nadir of community transmission.
We won’t know for a few months what the effectiveness will actually be among a mixed population at the peak of community transmission. This stuff is that new that there’s no evidence it actually works in the populations most at risk of death.
Anyone watching Biden's speech at Pfizer? Trump didn't order enough vaccines, Gretchen Whitmer's doing a great job...
Is that the one where he declared he ordered 50 million more vaccines by exercising an option in the contract signed under Trump?
0 vaccinations nearly as effective as 1!
Thank you, Elvis. Utterly succinct.
Another question: so I can't sue the vaccine manufacturers if I suffer adverse effects from the vaccine. What is the stance of the insurance companies? If the vaccine seriously fucks me up and I need a lot of expensive medical care, will the insurance company respond with "claim denied--hey dude you knowingly took an experimental vaccine; that's on you"?
But if a gun manufacturer’s product gets used improperly you may soon be able to sue them.
That is a great question.
My initial thought is the insurance company is stuck, particularly if the plan is an employer-based health plan. I'd surmise Medicare C plans would pay as well. But those who purchased health care plans on the ACA exchange? That, I am not certain.
I had those for a while when I was an independent contractor. They are just like other insurance plans and sold by regular insurance companies. They are just crappier and more expensive if you don’t get subsidy.
If you decide to sky dive wearing nothing but skis onto a mountain and break both your legs they still have to pay up.
Also the vaccines are FDA approved but it doesn’t matter. If you OD on cocaine they still pay.
The vaccines are not fda approved.
They are authorized for emergency use, essentially under compassionate use guidelines.
It’s not the same.
Also, there is no vaccine compensation fund for covid vaccines, which is different from how you’d claim damages with other types of vaccines.
You sign a waiver when you get the injections disclaiming all rights, unless the waiver itself was waived by your governor to keep you from realizing you have no rights.
In sharp contrast to Bailey's assertion, the smartest and most ethical way to nearly double covid vaccine effectiveness in America is to STOP immunizing the 40% of Americans who already immune due to past infection (as 40% of vaccines have been wasted).
To date, 28.529 million Americans (8.62%) had tested positive for covid. Since CDC estimates 4.6 times more Americans have been infected with covid (than have tested positive), about 131.2 million Americans (39.64%) have been infected with covid.
And since just 5 cases of covid reinfection have been identified in the US (and just 50 worldwide), virtually all of the estimated 130.9 million Americans previously infected with covid remain immune from reinfection.
But Anthony Fauci continues to lie about immunity conferred by past infection (as he is campaigning to vaccinate all Americans, including those already immune due to past infection). On Sunday’s NBC News (between 5 and 6 minutes on the video at
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/lot-things-open-schools-vaccinating-teachers-fauci/story?id=75883336
Fauci falsely claimed “Prior infection doesn’t protect you against reinfection.”
According to CDC, 57.74 million Americans (17.4%) have received a covid vaccine. But since about 40% of vaccines were given to previously infected people (who were already immune), and since the vaccines are about 90% effective, about 9.4% of Americans have become immune from vaccines.
Since an estimated 39.6% of Americans are immune due to past infection, and since an additional 9.4% are now immune due to vaccines, an estimated 49.0% of all Americans are now immune from covid.
During the next several days, over half of Americans will become immune from covid (per CDC estimate).
Since herd immunity occurs when/after about two-thirds of a population has been infected or vaccinated, counties and states with a covid case rates above 10% are now experiencing sharp declines in new cases due to herd immunity.
So why won’t Reason expose this extremely important and very good information?
Natural herd immunity is the reason why the rate of new daily covid cases has plummeted in most states during the past 2 – 3 months, which can better understood by looking at graphs at:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states
States with the sharpest declines in new covid cases, including many states where herd immunity appears imminent, are:
North Dakota -93.2%
Nebraska -92.5%
South Dakota -91.8%
Wisconsin -91.0%
Minnesota -90.8%
New Mexico -90.3%
Iowa -90.2%
Wyoming -89.8%
Missouri -89.3%
Tennessee -89.0%
Michigan -88.6%
Montana –88.4%
Illinois -87.5%
Idaho -86.9%
California -86.8%
Indiana -86.2%
Arkansas -86.2%
Nevada -85.9%
Arizona – 85.4%
Colorado -84.3%
Ohio -84.1%
Maine -81.9%
West Virginia -81.6%
Alaska -81.4%
Utah -81.2%
Washington -81.2%
Oregon -80.2%
Kansas -77.2%
Pennsylvania -74.7%
Data as of 2/18/2021
I just figured the sudden drop in reported numbers were a result of Trump being out of office.
WHO redefined what’s considered a positive PCR test for covid within an hour of Biden’s inauguration.
A draft of that redefinition was available in December, Politifact claims, but it wasn’t publicized until Biden took a piss for the first time in the Oval Office.
That WHO guidance might be the reason less nasal and throat swabs come back positive.
But Anthony Fauci continues to lie about immunity conferred by past infection (as he is campaigning to vaccinate all Americans, including those already immune due to past infection). On Sunday’s NBC News (between 5 and 6 minutes on the video at
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/lot-things-open-schools-vaccinating-teachers-fauci/story?id=75883336
Fauci falsely claimed “Prior infection doesn’t protect you against reinfection.”
It's not just Fauci, but the CDC at large as well as many independent advisory committees and independent research organizations. Now, whether all the rats are simply marching to Fauci's tune or whether it's independent action or just plain old 'Iraq has WMDs' cloistered-experts-groupthink isn't clear. But a large number of experts are going to great lengths to assert that not only should previously-infected people get innoculated, but that natural infection somehow confers a lesser immunity than the vaccine (or, conversely, that the vaccine somehow confers a greater immunity) despite the empirical evidence to the contrary.
Of course. They're all lying. All of those damn experts. Can't believe a word they say. But I can listen to my Uncle Festus, he never says a lie.
Fauci and the other experts have contradicted themselves, over hyped, and backpedaled many times over the last year. In regards to wearing masks, the “gold standard” efficacy of the PCR tests, potential treatments, and sundry other things. Right or wrong, this does tend to foster skepticism in those who have been paying attention the entire time.
Not just contradicted themselves, but contradicted their training and education as well as the underlying science.
If an expert says the sun won't rise tomorrow, I'm not calling him a liar when I say it will. When Fauci says, "Get the vaccine or COVID will kill you or someone you love." and I reply, "It won't kill me with or without the vaccine and the people I love are ready to meet their maker." Neither one of us is lying. The idea that they're lying is the only explanation pretty clearly demonstrates a mind stunted by scientism.
Experts can't lie?
Also, the experts need to be put in their place. They've been pumping this hysteria to irresponsible levels.
Vaccines for this crap. Please.
Of course. They’re all lying.
"Iraq had WMDs." - chemjeff
This is something I would like to see explored but for some reason it appears off limits. After my infection I searched for information on my level of immunity only to find very little on the subject. I will no doubt be urged to get vaccinated. The messaging already has masks and distancing for the vaccinated so I don't see right now how the prior infected will be off the hook.
Luckily for me I am going to be in the very last demographic group to be eligible so maybe by then this will change, or the official narrative will switch life back to normal and no one will care.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/herd-immunity-april-expert-coronavirus
My medical school wouldn't vaccinate me against mumps until I had an antibody titer test (which showed less than the minimum titer it could detect). Why aren't they doing antibody testing for SARS-CoV2?
Apparently the FDA screwed up the release of antibody tests. By the time they fixed, it didn't matter because the CDC kind of stopped doing public health stuff. And serological testing data was specifically excluded from 'normal' data reporting. So by the time the vaccines came around, it was probably 'antibody tests - what are those? they don't provide any actionable info.'
Also Covid antibodies are detectable only for 3/4 months.
There are yet no commercial tests for helper T cells sensitive to covid, though those last (presumably) a lifetime in the bloodstream.
So unless someone had lab-confirmed pcr serological tests for covid at the time of infection, it’s difficult to definitively say that few people have ever been reinfected and immunity will (presumably) last forever, like every other viral illness.
For that reason, policies vary widely.
Eventually there will be so little community transmission from herd immunity that it’ll all be moot.
Did you miss the last line of the story? The one where Reason pleads "save us daddy Biden we won't resist your hair smelling."
You forget that the vast majority of "COVID 19" tests are false positives due to the over-cycling in the PCR test.
Also, it's NOT a vaccine, it's genetic modification. It can't be a vaccine because "COVID 19" hasn't ever been isolated.
Or you could just not use the "vaccine" at all, since it kills 10% to 30% of the elderly that get it. A few extra grams of l-lysine a day ought to do the trick. Or IV of vitamin C. Or some dry (non-peroxidized) vitamin D. Or HQC with zinc citrate.
Only the first sentence was accurate. The rest is bullshit salad.
According to estimates at worldometers.info (which I consider close to reality, but not their worst case estimates that falsely presume new virus strains will reinfect many previously infected people), the following 26 states will continue experiencing huge declines in new covid cases towards attaining herd immunity in the next month or two.
AL, AK, AZ, AR, CO, ID, IN, IA, KS, LA, MN, MS, MT, NE, NV, NM, ND, OH, OK, SD, PA, WI, TN, UT, WV, WY.
According to estimates at worldometers.info, the following 15 states will continue to experience significant declines in new covid cases towards attaining herd immunity in the next two or three months.
CT, DE, CD, GA, KY, MD, MI, MO, NH, NJ, NC, RI, SC, TX, VA.
And according to estimates at worldometers.info, the following 7 states will continue experiencing declines in new covid cases, but may experience an increase, during the next several months.
FL, HI, IL, ME, MA, OR, WA
But perhaps most notable, worldometers.info is estimating increasing numbers of new covid cases in 3 deep Blue states during the next several months. CA, NY, VT
One thing that is clear, many/most Red states will experience herd immunity before many/most Blue states.
From today's Wall St. Journal
We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April
Covid cases have dropped 77% in six weeks. Experts should level with the public about the good news.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731
Amid the dire Covid warnings, one crucial fact has been largely ignored: Cases are down 77% over the past six weeks. If a medication slashed cases by 77%, we’d call it a miracle pill. Why is the number of cases plummeting much faster than experts predicted?
In large part because natural immunity from prior infection is far more common than can be measured by testing. Testing has been capturing only from 10% to 25% of infections, depending on when during the pandemic someone got the virus. Applying a time-weighted case capture average of 1 in 6.5 to the cumulative 28 million confirmed cases would mean about 55% of Americans have natural immunity.
Now add people getting vaccinated. As of this week, 15% of Americans have received the vaccine, and the figure is rising fast. Former Food and Drug Commissioner Scott Gottlieb estimates 250 million doses will have been delivered to some 150 million people by the end of March.
There is reason to think the country is racing toward an extremely low level of infection. As more people have been infected, most of whom have mild or no symptoms, there are fewer Americans left to be infected. At the current trajectory, I expect Covid will be mostly gone by April, allowing Americans to resume normal life.
Antibody studies almost certainly underestimate natural immunity. Antibody testing doesn’t capture antigen-specific T-cells, which develop “memory” once they are activated by the virus. Survivors of the 1918 Spanish flu were found in 2008—90 years later—to have memory cells still able to produce neutralizing antibodies.
Researchers at Sweden’s Karolinska Institute found that the percentage of people mounting a T-cell response after mild or asymptomatic Covid-19 infection consistently exceeded the percentage with detectable antibodies. T-cell immunity was even present in people who were exposed to infected family members but never developed symptoms. A group of U.K. scientists in September pointed out that the medical community may be under-appreciating the prevalence of immunity from activated T-cells.
Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. would also suggest much broader immunity than recognized. About 1 in 600 Americans has died of Covid-19, which translates to a population fatality rate of about 0.15%. The Covid-19 infection fatality rate is about 0.23%. These numbers indicate that roughly two-thirds of the U.S. population has had the infection.
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In my own conversations with medical experts, I have noticed that they too often dismiss natural immunity, arguing that we don’t have data. The data certainly doesn’t fit the classic randomized-controlled-trial model of the old-guard medical establishment. There’s no control group. But the observational data is compelling.
I have argued for months that we could save more American lives if those with prior Covid-19 infection forgo vaccines until all vulnerable seniors get their first dose. Several studies demonstrate that natural immunity should protect those who had Covid-19 until more vaccines are available. Half my friends in the medical community told me: Good idea. The other half said there isn’t enough data on natural immunity, despite the fact that reinfections have occurred in less than 1% of people—and when they do occur, the cases are mild.
But the consistent and rapid decline in daily cases since Jan. 8 can be explained only by natural immunity. Behavior didn’t suddenly improve over the holidays; Americans traveled more over Christmas than they had since March. Vaccines also don’t explain the steep decline in January. Vaccination rates were low and they take weeks to kick in.
My prediction that Covid-19 will be mostly gone by April is based on laboratory data, mathematical data, published literature and conversations with experts. But it’s also based on direct observation of how hard testing has been to get, especially for the poor. If you live in a wealthy community where worried people are vigilant about getting tested, you might think that most infections are captured by testing. But if you have seen the many barriers to testing for low-income Americans, you might think that very few infections have been captured at testing centers. Keep in mind that most infections are asymptomatic, which still triggers natural immunity.
Many experts, along with politicians and journalists, are afraid to talk about herd immunity. The term has political overtones because some suggested the U.S. simply let Covid rip to achieve herd immunity. That was a reckless idea. But herd immunity is the inevitable result of viral spread and vaccination. When the chain of virus transmission has been broken in multiple places, it’s harder for it to spread—and that includes the new strains.
Herd immunity has been well-documented in the Brazilian city of Manaus, where researchers in the Lancet reported the prevalence of prior Covid-19 infection to be 76%, resulting in a significant slowing of the infection. Doctors are watching a new strain that threatens to evade prior immunity. But countries where new variants have emerged, such as the U.K., South Africa and Brazil, are also seeing significant declines in daily new cases. The risk of new variants mutating around the prior vaccinated or natural immunity should be a reminder that Covid-19 will persist for decades after the pandemic is over. It should also instill a sense of urgency to develop, authorize and administer a vaccine targeted to new variants.
Some medical experts privately agreed with my prediction that there may be very little Covid-19 by April but suggested that I not to talk publicly about herd immunity because people might become complacent and fail to take precautions or might decline the vaccine. But scientists shouldn’t try to manipulate the public by hiding the truth. As we encourage everyone to get a vaccine, we also need to reopen schools and society to limit the damage of closures and prolonged isolation. Contingency planning for an open economy by April can deliver hope to those in despair and to those who have made large personal sacrifices.
Dr. Makary is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health, chief medical adviser to Sesame Care, and author of “The Price We Pay.”
Since Marty Makary (author of the column above) works at the Bloomberg/Hopkins School of Public Health (which advocated mass lockdowns, social distancing and mask mandates even before Democrat Govs imposed those policies last year), I suspect many more so-called "experts" will soon admit that herd immunity is taking hold in thousands of communities, hundreds of counties and half of the states.
Nope. SleepyJoe gets all the credit.
I'm sorry, I wasn't listening. What?
Since studies found that single doses of both Pfizer and Moderna covid vaccines are 85%-92% effective, Ronald Bailey makes an excellent argument to give just one dose of the vaccines to people
(who weren't previously infected, or at least those who haven't tested positive for covid).
Giving single doses of vaccines, and only giving them to people who haven't been previously infected, would make the covid vaccines FOUR times more effective (than they have been to date), and would make herd immunity occur more rapidly.
Copyright infringement.
While the vast majority of the 183 counties that have surpassed a 13% covid case rate are sparsely populated rural Red counties (which is likely why left wing media propagandists on the east and west coasts haven’t reported it), increasingly more highly populated urban and suburban counties also appear close to achieving herd immunity.
Counties with populations >150K with high covid case rates are:
Case Rate – County, St – Population
17.0% – Yuma, AZ – 195K
15.6% – Lubbock, TX – 278K
15.4% – Webb, TX – 250K (Larado)
14.7% – Imperial, CA – 174K
14.4% – Miami-Dade, FL – 2,716K
14.3% – El Paso, TX – 622K
14.3% – Kings, CA – 152K
14.2% – Utah, UT – 516K (Provo)
13.1% – Muskogee, OK – 189K
13.0% – San Bernardino, CA – 2,035K
12.6% – Providence, RI – 626K
12.3% – Brown, WI – 248K (Green Bay)
12.2% – Elkhart, IN – 197K
11.8% – Salt Lake, UT – 1,029K
11.6% – Los Angeles, CA – 10,040K
11.6% – Racine, WI – 195K
11.5% – Davidson, TN – 626K (Nashville)
11.4% – Richland, NY – 474K (Staten Island)
11.4% – Rockland, NY – 325K (NYC suburb)
11.3% - Maricopa, AZ - 4,485K (Phoenix)
11.2% – Milwaukee, WI – 947K
11.2% – Kern, CA – 900K (Bakersfield)
11.1% – Douglas, NE – 517K (Omaha)
11.0% – Waukesha, WI – 389K (Milwaukee suburb)
11.0% – Passaic, NJ – 501K (Paterson)
The Laura Ingraham show on Fox News just interviewed two epidemiologists (Stanford & Harvard) who confirmed that natural herd immunity is now taking place in many states and nationwide.
The show also revealed how Anthony Fauci has not only lied about herd immunity, but has attacked those who tell the truth about it.
I haven't found the show posted on Google yet, but I urge everyone to watch this segment.
On Friday's show, Laura Ingraham interviewed Stanford's Jay Bhattacharya and Harvard's Martin Kulldorf, who explained how/why natural herd immunity has been occurring in the US for the past several many, and that vaccines will speed up herd immunity in the US during the next several months.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6233900913001?playlist_id=5622526903001#sp=show-clips
This is one of the best interviews about herd immunity that also reveals some of Anthony Fauci's many lies about herd immunity.
How to get more shots? Add water.
Yeah, you just take the number of Americans currently vaccinated and multiply by two. Even my first grader knows this.
People could just start "identifying" as vaccinated. I hear that identifying changes reality.
So we're still pretending covid19 is some special, extraordinary virus?
Let me get this straight. We have the vaccines.
They've been studied carefully for a year, for specific dosing regimens, in double-blind, placebo-controlled trials.
They've been through miles of red tape and approved.
We're producing millions per week, with contracts in place to produce hundreds of millions more. We're distributing to pharmacies, RIGHT NOW.
We are already vaccinating people faster than new cases are coming in, by about a factor of TEN to TWENTY, and increasing rapidly.
Case levels are dropping like a rock.
The operations guys just spent the last two months getting the logistics down for distribution for the tested, known-effective, approved dosing protocol....
And you want to change the whole thing, in flight? Have you seriously considered how easily a change like this could go completely sideways?
No. We do not change horses here. We broke through the line to daylight; we do not look back to see what's chasing us. We do not cut to the other corner. We do not change the battle plan in the middle of a battle that we are winning convincingly.
No, no, no. This is not the "studies show" part. The is the stick-with-the-plan, finish-the-job, don't-fuck-the-dog part.
The is the stick-with-the-plan, finish-the-job, don’t-fuck-the-dog part.
I'm not entirely convinced the plan wasn't to fuck the dog from the get go, maybe even fuck the dog while jumping between horses. From "two weeks to slow the spread, flatten the curve!" to "MOAR respirators!" to "HCQ? Yes! No! Well, yes. But no... er... yes" to "masks are worthless for common use, save them for the professionals" to "it's not spread via contact, stay 6ft. apart, don't touch your face, and sanitize all surfaces, cash is fine"
You so totally nailed this. The logistics aspect is underappreciated.
Leave aside vaccine production challenges (which are not trivial). The pick-up, distribution, delivery and administration of millions of doses weekly (in cold storage) is a monumental logistics challenge. Thank God this was set up back in October.
No way we get off the vaccine logistics train that was built. That would be criminal incompetence.
Amazon is offering to help.
https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-amazon-covid-vaccine-rollout-discussions-white-house-administration-2021-2
Bailey has been off about this from the start.
How else are they supposed to blame a poor vaccine response on Trump?
The big danger now, comes from the mutations. Eventually the virus will mutate into a form that is not affected by the current vaccines. So we have to vaccinate enough people now, before that mutation happens and spreads quickly. It *might* have already happened with the South African mutation, we don't know yet. Let's hope not.
Viruses tend to mutate into less lethal forms. It’s how nature works.
One of the advantages of the mRNA vaccines is they should be able to tweak them to counter new mutations since they target specific proteins.
It *might* have already happened with the South African mutation, we don’t know yet. Let’s hope not.
Unless it's because everyone who's come into contact with the new strain is dead, we already know the answer.
You morons who like to pretend that viruses can somehow spread more virulently and terminally than networked communications aren't even retarded.
The first two vaccines targeted the spike protein that makes covid a problem for humans. It can mutate all it wants, but as long as its covid, those two vaccines will always work the same.
It is unpredictable. Influenza is an example. At any time a more lethal form can pop up. That is why from time to time you see they need to kill off birds or swine. Happened in China recently.
I do wish that all who write for Reason on the subject of vaccines would challenge their cognitive dissonance on the topic of vaccine safety and efficacy, and start looking at the data more closely. Following Robert F Kennedy Jr's Children's Defense Website would be a good start. Censorship of SCIENTISTS who question vaccine safety and efficacy is rampant. The silencing of dissent by labeling anyone who raises valid scientific concerns an "anti-vaxxer" is not scientific consensus or rational debate. Reason needs to wake up and look at these issues objectively. Those who question are not categorically anti-science- not all who are "anti-vaxx" are religious, many are the spouses, parents and grandparents of vaccine injured people- whose vaccine injuries have been confirmed by the court. The doctors, epidemiologists, and activists who have worked on this issue are being censored and their work labeled fraud- this is not science. There is a lot of meat in this topic which Reason is completely ignoring by making the mainstream assumption that anyone questioning vaccine safety or efficacy is a nut. Please do better.
Seriously, I dont trust anything that you arent allowed to question.
I would actually like to see if people agree with me on this - but I think it is an error to say that a vaccine that is 95% effective provides a 95% lower chance to an individual for catching the disease.
Rather, I would suggest that it is 100% effect in 95% of individuals and 0% effective in 5% of individuals.... or at least to some degree that is the better way of looking at it.
60% of the time it works every time.
Brian Fontana
Ok I may be guessing in the wind, but does the adjutant issue enter into this at all? Adjutants stretch the power of vaccine supplies considerably, amd are used worldwide for such. The FDA banned them in the US not because of medical reasons but because [Americans are idiots and scared of vaccines.]
Anyway, this would be a terrible time for this, if it applies and is applied.
Adjuvants are used in all kinds of vaccines. They are not banned. I don’t know what is in the ones already out or how it applies to the mRNA vaccines but they have certainly been investigated for Coronavirus vaccines and likely to be used at least in some of them.
“The adjuvants AS03, MF59, and CpG 1018 have already been used in licensed vaccines (28)”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7677582/
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